Myst side-by-side comparison (1993, 2000, 2014, 2020) - pre-release footage
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- New 2021 version available here: • Myst: Side-by-side com...
Comparing the new Myst trailer and screenshots to all past major versions of Myst:
- Myst Masterpiece Edition (1993*)
- realMyst (2000)
- realMyst Masterpiece Edition (2014**)
- Myst (2020) - Pre-release trailer and screenshots from September 2020 Quest / VR version
(Everything in the lower-right corner is subject to change!)
Still images: imgur.com/a/bI...
All footage and audio Copyright Cyan, Inc. 1993-2020. Music by Robyn Miller ("Mechanical Mystgate" from Myst - The Soundtrack).
Sources for the 2020 version:
- • Official Announcement ...
- cyan.com/games...
- www.roadtovr.c...
* Technically this version came out in 1999, but it was the same graphics with better encoding.
** Technically these screenshots are from the 2018 patch which updated a lot of textures.
For 1993 the game looks sensational. Way ahead of its time
even better than 2000
I love Myst, but Riven was the highlight of the series. I hope this does well enough to spawn a remake.
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They're nowhere close to being done but have made significant progress. In 2019 they signed a formal publisher agreement with Cyan. I'd say it's fairly likely we'll get this eventually.
From what I understand, the reason riven wasnt remade aside from the starry expanse project was because all the original source code, 3d models, etc, were lost.
Yeah, Riven was something else. It all had a purpose, you know?
Cant be, i have played MYST but Riven... must play?
@@samkatayama9047 yeah, must play.
I prefer the surreal aesthetic of the original
a tip : you can watch movies at flixzone. I've been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Ahmed Terrence yup, I have been using Flixzone for since december myself :D
You so in the past =))) VR version is coming!!! Wake UP NEO!!! )))
@@qAntBcn No he is correct. The original has a eeriness to it that gets lost with the bloom effects and even some of the detail was better in the original. Im torn between the 1993 and 2014. I have the 2021 and its a beautiful game but there is too much effect with lighting and fog. And not all us are into VR. Personally I will never use it.
The lighting in the 2020 version is just too crazy. Why does everything have to be so bright.
I'm gonna cry when I play this in VR. Too nostalgic.
The vr version was a good experience.
i know it's early days but the lighting seems to be way more bright and flat in the newer version despite the better graphics... i hope they keep it moody like the original!
I agree. Especially with that last one. The atmosphere is completely different.
Yeah, much improved detail but a lot of it has lost it's eerriness because it's way too bright.
If someone has no nostalgic attachment I think this looks like best way to play Myst. That said the lighting doesn't seem to set the same mood, and some of the details in the "glamorous" areas seem to be more sparse, however the world detail in general has been increased. I think the old method of putting FMV into the games was actually really effective way to bring realism and a stage like performance into the games. The effort put into this looks like it brings things to a modern standard and the most worthy remake since the original.
I played the 2000 version first, and I don't remember it being especially moody :/
I ended up buying Myst anyhow, and my thoughts are that the brightness helps a bit with the Oculus screen. When I played The Room, I felt like the screen didn't cope too well with the dark scenes. I think the uplift in brightness helps with the screen contrast limitations of the Quest.
The 2014 version was the most close to the original in terms of overall look, yet with some visual improvements. However the VR-release feels more like a free interpretation of the legendary game: everything is in place, but somehow alien.
I’ve never played Myst but after watching the new trailer think I’ll give it a go. I enjoyed your video thanks!
I'll tell you now. Its a what I'd call a nostalgic game. I played the original one and the whole game is just "big brain". My family had to get the strategy guide for it just to complete it but it was extremely worth it and ill definitely be playing the VR one.
Its good, but don't expect fast paced. Its a slow puzzle, but you feel rewarded every time you move forward. You may want to cheat (look on line for answers) for the submarine direction puzzle, its confusing. Other than that, I did complete the game. The original one I mean.
@@truhunk1 how many hours would you think it takes to complete it for the normal player?
Well, that’s a good question, or a difficult question. There is some intelligence involved. You should also keep a pen and paper next to you to jot down a few small notes. I think it originally took me about 30 - 40 hrs, but I was new to gaming. I did cheat and look on line to solve the submarine direction puzzle. If you have time, it’s a good game. If you easily lose interest in things, you may give up. It like I said on an earlier comment, it is satisfying when you figure out a puzzle. There are no instructions. You are just plopped on an island and it’s up to you to figure things out. Not easy. But I did really like this game.
@@claudedesaulniers2300 have you also played Quern? if not I would highly recommend it
the old "lightning" is way better in most cases
These screenshots of Myst 2020 look /wild/. Can't wait to check it out! I'm guessing this is their warm-up for Firmament ;)
This is a lot more of a reimagining than I expected. The original will always be charming and my favorite, but this will be interesting. A lot of steam punk elements. I hope they keep the moody lighting; a lot of games today are simply over-lit.
I'm liking the steampunk aesthetic a lot! As for the lighting and mood, yeah, I hope they don't change it (though I don't mind if they toned down the darkness in the Dimensional Imager Room just a tad bit).
As much as a part of me might be a bit disappointed about the fact that a lot of the stuff seems different in the new version because I'm very attached to the original Myst, I'm glad this isn't gonna be just ANOTHER pointless remaster but rather a new game.
Beautiful!!!!
They took a *LOT* of liberties over the years concerning the models. Each looks really good in its own right, but the purist in me is pissed.
I still prefer the original graphics because it takes me back to playing this in 1994 on my Pentium 90 and being amazed
I think I like Realmyst 2000's art style the best. While the models do look, dated, I love that everything looks worn down and gritty.
Yeah I agree, the 2014 one was too shiny. The 2021 version looks great though, lots of fog and I guess it's not worn down, but very steam-punk.
Dude I followed a thread from reddit, thanks for making this comparison.
Is remarkable the original 93 version is astounding, even looking at it from a design perspective is superbly crafted.
But ofc there are major differences, like yeah we would want to setup a mac just to play the original experience, but also I'd play the occulus version for the unreal engine details and VR of course, and also would try realmyst as this is a 3D version with special taste. And this is just the 1st game of this massive series...
Thanks for putting this together!
That is one of the great mysteries of life. - Grandpa Longneck, The Land Before Time VI: The Secret of Saurus Rock (1998)
The 2020 myst doesn't look as atmospheric as earlier versions..
The Myst ages are my fav games.
The new version definitely looks pretty, but I do like the moody atmosphere and lighting in the 1993 and 2014 versions too. 🙂
Maybe the low resolution helps the imagination a bit. When I think of myst-style I think low resolution photograph, not high resolution tech demo.
That's why I'm so glad they still sell and support the original Myst instead of trying to bury it like most remakes.
2020 version: *randomly deletes a rug*
Best-of-the-best Myst is IV REVELATION, tried to finish it for 15 years, havent done yet!!
Even if I did remember the walkthrough from '93, this would be worth it for the GGI refresh.
Fantastic concept for a video.
2014 gets my vote, believable visuals though still let's you know it's a game.
This is very interesting to see the changes. I still have the first Myst in it's box and would love to see a remake of Ryven made as well. I am also a backer for the VR Firmament game and have been waiting for it's release for a good while now. Hoping soon and keeping fingers crossed 🤞 Thank you for this comparison.
This series has always occupied such a mythological space in my mind.
I have dabbled with Riven & played some of Obduction.
I'm really thrilled at the prospect of the Myst ethos in a fully realized 3d world!
Can't wait to explore this world!
Call me nostalgic, but nothing beats the original for me. The newer versions look like they were updated just to look more modern. The original looks like more passion was put into it. Also, why do the interiors in the newest version look so brightly lit? It was supposed to look dark and mysterious.
This is pre-release footage / shots for the Oculus Quest version. Essentially running on a phone. They are getting ready to release the PC version and the screenshots they've released for that look incredible. Check out the Steam page for updated shots.
Here we go again...
Nice comparison!
I am very excited for the new Myst in VR. I just hope they do SOMETHING to mitigate that part where you have to keep selecting the direction in the maze. My least favorite part of the game.
Hmm, I agree on the original version. I think realMyst mitigated it just fine, by making the window bigger, the segments much faster, and adding variety to the animations (different twists and turns). I think it'll be really cool in VR.
Maybe they could reduce the size of the maze a little, or even make it bigger but make the winning path shorter, so it's harder to brute force, but if you know what you're doing, you can get through quicker.
The puzzle itself is ok, but it will take some time to make the connection. They kind of hint at the connection, but it's on an entirely different age, and it isn't obvious at all. Which kinda sucks.
I cheated and looked on line for that one.
I remember losing some weekends to Myst in late ‘93 or early ‘94, whenever it was first out. There was nothing like it on the market at that time. Does it still have the same clunky point and click movement? Myst was a head trip!
Nope it's fully 3D exploration now (has been since realMyst in 2000). This is the latest version for VR.
1. At 1:43 is that rug on the floor supposed to be missing in 2020?
2. At 2:10 stoneship compass you've lost a lot of the deep green gloom of stoneship in 2020 version. The water outside should look more like the 2014 version no?
3. At 2:18 Achenar's stoneship room has lost some atmosphere due to overlighting?
4. At 2:24 The 2020 Stoneship version seems much more daytime than the 1993 twilight and the 2014 night version. Is there a day/night cycle? It will lose atmosphere hugely otherwise. Also the lighthouse, the balcony added which might be cool in VR, does affect the aesthetics of the building hugely, it's less imposing, and 'speaks' to you less.
Yeah a lot of those things are lighting issues and I expect they'll do a lighting pass to help with the mood in some of these places. It seems blown out in a few places, like Myst library. Note that those last two Stoneship images are from the RoadToVR blog, which got "exclusives" that aren't in the main marketing. They seem less finished.
I actually hated the look of Stoneship in RMME; it's always dark and miserable. The shot here is closer to the original Myst. I don't mind the lighting here.
1. These are beta screenshots, because looking at them, some of the elements are missing, like untextured surfaces, or missing objects.
2. To me, they got the visual design of those windows wrong in RMME. From what I've seen, you only get a funhouse image-bending effect if the surface of the glass is curved with water behind it. The water in certain other places also didn't look correct either, like it was made out of Jello or something.
Yeah, the Stoneship age is kinda foggy and pretty stormy in the original and the 2000 version, but it's absolutely miserable and full on dark and rainy in the RMME. I liked the rain part, and I don't mind the gloomy aspect (after all, it's completely deserted, even though the desolation in there is nowhere near as bad as in the Mechanical and especially the Channelwood Ages), but could they make it a little bit lighter? It's stormy, but it isn't night!
@@Mike14264 Yeah, I didn't like the Stoneship Age in RMME. (Selenitic actually had an Unreal Engine stock asset, the skybox.) There's a lot of stuff in RMME that I didn't like...
RIP TIM RYLANDS
1963-2017
They’ve done a stellar job with the recent version! (Just let‘s not talk about the animated characters...) 😅
The live action stuff was a cornerstone of Myst all the up and through to Revelations.
I hope it has Rime and maybe some other surprises too? Everdunes?
Will the video segments be re-filmed or CGI? (please not the Myst 4 actors for Sirrus and Achenar)
I wonder if they'll make realistic models of the actors, or digitized models or something like that.
My buddy was a dev on this project
Quite frankly when you compare these the 1993 version (although not as details) did the best with the tech they had in 1993 and did quite a good job. 2020 has much more detail and while 1993 had less I still can still see what they are trying to represent. I think in some way you can leave much to imagination. It seems the 2020 opening was "Hollywoodized" with just presenting how much detail they could when displaying the book detail/spine word embossing (MYST). Some of the versions looked graining and washed out while the 1993 was clear and crisp.
Cool analysis. I'll just note a few things about the 2020 version:
- The "intro" is actually a trailer. I believe the game has the usual intro sequence.
- These screenshots are pre-release images for the Quest version (underpowered device). The one releasing next week is significantly upgraded.
I plan to make a new comparison video once it launches. I should update this video's title to be clear that this is old.
@@MattGiuca That game was amazing when it came out. It brings back some fond memories. I think I played it on a Pentium I 133Mhz with like 24Mb of ram. :D
1993 and 2000
Guessing 2020 is the Oculus Quest 2 VR version
Now I'm honestly disappointed with the upcoming remake! Why would they change colors and architecture like that? It should be the exact same world but more detailed, not reimagined.
That's what the other 2 remakes were for; time for something different. A lot of visual design for such old games is not just influenced but dictated by what the technology of the time can achieve - no doubt Myst 2020 is closer to what the Miller brothers first envisioned. It's simply the best version of Myst when nostalgia leaves the equation.
The lighting in the newest version is really off, lacking atmosphere, lacking shadows, lacking contrasts. Everything is even and bright at all times. Really disappointing - I would have thought it was possible to make something way more atmospheric now.
I wish they would make new games. I loved myst - exile
They are making a game now: fulfillment.fangamer.com/kindling/firmament
They also did Obduction, five years ago.
Lastly, Cyan didn't make Myst III Exile, that was developed by Presto Studios who sadly aren't around any more, but they made the Journeyman Project trilogy in the 90s which you should check out if you liked their work.
I soooo want to play this. I have a couple I can't play bc they are too old.
You should be able to play all the Myst games on Windows 10. (If not the original releases, the newer ports on GOG/Steam are all updated, and if you don't want to rebuy them and use your CDs, you can run them in ScummVM manually.)
Which ones are you having trouble with? realMyst 2000 and Myst IV are the hardest ones to get working but I've still got them going. Let me know!
I like the creative freedom the 2020 version took. Haven't played it yet as I have no VR. Waiting for it to be released on GOG/steam, or am I just an ignorant idiot for not embracing VR?
I'm waiting too! Well, I have a Vive so I'll probably play it in VR, but in the mean time, nobody can play it without a Quest.
Any knowledge of approximately when the 2021 version of MYST for Windows 10 is supposed to be released?...
Nope, they haven't announced anything. I check often.
Can't wait to play it. Hopefully it "just works" under Proton/Steam Play so I can remain under Linux and don't have to become a Windows user. ;-)
2020 version is trying too hard. Give me the original.
MYST 2000 I RUN IN 3D,STEREOSCOPIC.VERY COOL.ALL ANOTHER VERSION NOT SUPPORTED IN 3D
"Ich bin Sirrus..."
realmyst 2000 is better (brighter) than 2014
I also like the atmosphere better in the 2000 version, not to mention the wildlife which got almost completely removed in 2014.
I have the 1993 version...
You should have included the iOS version of realmyst
An iOS release would be great! The iPad has always felt like an ideal platform to intuitively explore Myst.
@@h4x0y iOS version came out in 2012
@@trapez77 I know that one, I meant a release of the 2020 version in unreal engine :)
i think the original 8-bit color rendering is different enough from masterpiece editions's 24-bit color rendering to say it's not the "same graphics" but with better encoding. i wish i could find more footage of the original myst's look
The difference is very subtle. The four versions I presented here have been totally rebuilt or substantially reworked on each iteration, whereas the original vs Masterpiece Edition is literally the same rendering (same resolution, exact same images), but encoded as a full-color image rather than 8-bit palette.
I wish I could find examples on the internet but like you I can't find them. Maybe I'll dig out my old CD and upload some screenshots.
please do... it's so difficult to find images of the original online, and it looks so much more beautiful than masterpiece edition (obviously, my opinion)
@@djzion_ Someone just asked this same question on Reddit and got a ton of answers: www.reddit.com/r/myst/comments/klfvzz/is_the_original_firstever_release_of_myst/ (in fact, based on the username u/jmdrs, it's ... maybe you??)
One of the answers posted this zoomed comparison: satrapov.net/mysst/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Comparison.jpg
I think you could find it and get it working in ScummVM if you were dedicated enough.
it is me indeed. first time my mysterious alias "JMDRS" has been decodified as simple portuguese names
@@djzion_ Haha, it was weird seeing two people asking about the same thing in two different sites. "Is this the same guy?"
Nice one, but you forgot the iPad version, the best looking version IMHO.
True, but the iOS version used the same underlying engine (Unity) and assets to realMyst Masterpiece Edition, albeit the latter was significantly improved.
In fact, the Unity version went through many changes: iPad, iPhone, Android (which all look fairly similar to each other), RMME 2014, and RMME 2015 (which is a significant graphical upgrade). I expect soon there'll be major graphical differences between the Quest and PC versions. I'm just trying to capture the differences between the full rebuilds.
The iPad version sadly enough does not have the real time day/night changes. It should be mentioned that my iOS version is limited to a 32 bit version 10.3 tablet. Also, the Riven version has no water animation effects. Were these updated in 64 bit iOS 14 editions which have metal rendering or are they the same?
@@NoirpoolSea Nah, the iOS and Android ports never had real time day/night or weather effects. Those were a sort of "in between" version where it was built from scratch in Unity, but on a budget and for, at the time, very limited hardware. Years later, the same version was spruced up into realMyst Masterpiece Edition on PC.
@@MattGiuca I disagree with you Matt. For me, the IOS version is the best because it's based on the original RealMyst but with upgraded visuals, new textures, shadowmaps, shader effects. For me, Masterpiece edition changes too much, it looks plasticky and too vibrant. I'm also not a fan of the day-night cycle, it doesn't add anything to the game nor the atmosphere. The lighting conditions in each level was carefully selected by the devs, this is totally ruined by having a day night cycle.
@@soetdjuret Reasonable opinion 🙃
Isn't it the most remaked game ever ? 2014 was pretty cheap by the way
Possibly! Yeah 2014 was a bit rough, owing to the relative immaturity of Unity, the fact that it was coming from a rather old codebase (it was brought up from the 2009 iPad version, not built from scratch), and possibly just other priorities (work on Obduction). I'm hopeful that the new 2021 version will be a lot more polished, but some of the above apply again this time.
2020 version of Myst looks a bit ugly though very realistic in some parts. Not interested in a remake then a remaster version. I am totally avoiding it though I am interested in a Riven remastered since taking away immersion is terrible idea for a remake imo.
Note that this is pre-release images and several of them look quite half-baked in terms of the lighting and textures. Let's see the final product before writing it off.
2020 is a VR remake and some changes are necessary.
@@AtrusDesign Because VR can't run with remaster assets like getting rid of them for know reason?
You gotta be joking.
By the way I mentioned I am interested in Remaster over Remake.
How come I didn't know there was a 2014 version?
That's "realMyst Masterpiece Edition", it's the main version that's sold now on Steam etc.
meh