Why not just set up your lock-miter router bit this way?
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2021
- These bits are useful, and it's not as hard to set one up as you think. Here's how to do it the easy way.
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NOTE: I didn't mention setup blocks because they do not account for variations in material thickness. A 3/4" setup block only works with wood that is EXACTLY 3/4" thick.
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Is it possible to use the bit to make a set up block?
@@keithmarlowe5569 there is that’s what I’m searching for now’ I saw a few videos last time I looked so I’m searching for them now 😂
Once you DO have it set up, get a piece of stock that's the same thickness as your "production" piece, cut into it with the bit, and save it. This becomes a template/guide for the height the next time you need to make this cut on that thickness of stock.
I bought the Freud miter lock bit and wish these companies would imprint the center of the bit on the big itself so there is no guesswork. It would make the $80 I spent on it worth the purchase. This is the best video I have seen on this topic.
Oh you clever bugga, the idea of double taping another board to the piece you’re cutting is sheer genius and I’d never have thought that one up, so very clever. I can think of other applications for it too. Thanks James, that’s where brilliance mate, good onya from down under, tho, we’re really up over lol
Despite the fact that there is NO SHORTAGE WHATSOEVER of dudes in my life who keep running up and shouting advice at me, I'm learning woodworking pretty much entirely by watching videos, reading, and doing. Of all the woodworking vids I watch, yours are my favorite. Thank you for calmly, simply, conversationally explaining things in as few words as possible without hollering, going off on tangents, flashing all over the place in quick, confused, confusing ways, or any of the other things that make it hard to learn from someone on video. You're doin God's work, friend (assuming God wants me to be able to build stuff without being hollered to/at by every man who knows me).
Great vid. Recently bought a lock miter bit and was about to attempt my first use. This takes my worry out of the equation. Thank you
Wow. Followed your method and got a perfect fit the first time. No idea what will happen the second time. Thanks from a 73-year old beginner.
The shop I'm at we use them mainly for beams especially rustic beams but we do a relief cut on the table saw at around 30 degrees to take the stress off the cut.
Die Höhen- u. Anschlageinstellung ist in diesem Video sehr gut erklärt.
Ich denke jetz kann ich den Miter-Router-Bit endlich mal in Betrieb nehmen. Thank You
James -- Excellent instruction. One more tip for those new to these bits: Mill ALL the stock (plus a little extra) you will be using in your project at the same time. Even slight differences in stock thickness will result in a joint that does not fit properly.
Goes without saying that you should also mill your scrap lumber test pieces at the same time as your project workpieces.
Thanks for your clear and thorough explanation on how to set up a lock-mitre bit. Setting these bits properly is an arduous task , but your method makes it quite easy. Your videos are my favorite!
I wish all videos would be like this on YT. Straight to the point, well demonstrated.
I just have a hand router, but I'll figure out what to do based on this.
I am a rookie when it comes to fine woodworking and got a lock-mitre bit in a set I just bought. I played with it a little. Your video really made it clear and easy to understand how to use it. Cheers!
Thanks for yet another clear and thorough explanation. Everyone else makes things so complicated that you make so clear.
Perfect example of referencing off your material. So much easier than spending time at a calculator pretending you're ready to teach algebra or trig.
Thank you for demystifying this exceptionally mysterious subject !
Haven’t used my lock mitre but in a few years and was having difficulty setting up. Watched this and got it set in 1 min. Thx. Big fan of your videos, I even watch them when it’s not something I’m looking for or needing lol because they’re always so well presented.
You are a phenomenal teacher and I appreciate your time in creating this resource. Thank you 🙏🏼
That tip about taping an extra piece to the board for edge cutting made total sense. Thanks! I was having a problem with that, as the board on edge was exiting the bit and then moving around or dropping, as there wasn't any support for the sharp edge.
Yes sir, the downside of using this type of bit it that it does remove some material off of the face it’s cutting. It’s a small amount but you loose the reference edge which lets the piece dive down resulting in a snipe at the end. Adding to the length of the board works to eliminate this as you simply cut the sniped piec off. Taping or hot gluing another reference edge works too.
One of my favourite woodworking channels, clear concise and really helpful advice. Thank you
Brilliant James! That is definitely the “least fussy” setup I’ve seen so I think I will finally invest in a pair of bits.
Be sure to get quality bits. I bought two Chinese Cheapo bits on Amazon and it was a waste of money. The first had an odd size shank that wouldn't fit my collet and the second just tore the wood up no matter how careful I was.
I was just thinking about getting some of these, perfect timing!
I never even knew these were a thing! Very cool!
Just bought one of these and was pulling my hair out trying to do this. This video will definitely help me to do this correctly. Thank you.
I never thought of doing both ends of the test piece and then cutting them apart to check the joint, I've just been using two test pieces. Thanks for that tip!
Right? How many pieces of new knowledge can you shove into a quickie video?
Stumpy Nubs: hold my kooshie'd can
@@chrisjacobs7434: That sounds like something I, Really, don't want to do. 😲😳
Wow. I just got one of these and was planning on setting it up today. Amazing timing on the video!
Although I’m familiar with another set up process I like yours better. Great tips James. Thanks for your work on making this video.
Thank you for your awesome videos, it is clear you really take your time and have great pride in them.
Thank you for the video! I am always reluctant to use my lock miter bit because of set up time but when I finally get the setup right, it is a great joint. Now that I know a more streamlined way of setup, it will get more use!
It’s like you know what I’m working on and struggling with! Thanks so much!
I had never even heard of this but till just now. Not only do I want one but I believe I can use this bit flawlessly now!
This is a timely video as I had just purchased these router bits in both sizes. The package came, I opened it, then I shuffled the bits off to the side - intimidated by what I imagined to be a very daunting setup.
Thank you for this to-the-point, clear explanation with good visuals.
Absolutely a fantastic tutorial! Great job!
Just made my first miter lock joint. Thank you for the straightforward video! Subscribed.
Thanks James. This is going to make setting these bits up a lot easier for me.
Perfect timing. I'm about to start my first project using lock miters. Thanks!!
Like you're clear sounding video. No echoes and no trying to talk over loud playing noise, so called music. I like making things out of wood for myself. Love watching your videos. Good job 👍
Great tip. Thanks for this, James.
Thanks for sharing the info in language that’s so easily understood.
Thank you, Mr. Hamilton. This is one of the clearest explanations for how to set up a locking miter bit that I have seen or read. I have a locking miter bit, I needed one to make a hollow square beam, and even with the manufacturer's directions, which basically said buy our setup tab, I couldn't figure out. After a lot of fiddling and a number of test cuts I got it as close to right as I thought I could get it and made the cuts. They weren't exact, but I was able to hide the small error by rounding off the corners.
This was an exceptionally clear concise video with straightforward instructions. It was to the point without unnecessary side comments. It is also great fun to see the shop of someone that likes hand planes as much as I do. See you like Veritas planes too.
You are always my go to guy when it comes to information and projects.
Perfectly answered all of my questions. Thank you.
Excellent video. Now I can adjust the bit with incredible simplicity.
Thank you for the information.
Very helpful!! I had given up on using this bit. I’m will be trying this technique soon.
What a Saturday morning.... sippin coffee and watchin Stumpy Nubs!
P.S. I’ve used Whiteside for years. Top quality and Made in USA!
Thank you James, this is very very helpful
Beautifully simple explanation!
Great instruction on such a misunderstood bit James. Thank you!
They sell those little guide templates make it pretty easy to set up although there for a specific size stock. The hard part is standing the piece up on end. if I wanted to do the corners of a draw with a lock miter that’s a dangerous cut. you need to check to hold that piece of stock really tight. I’d love to see you do a lock miter on an end cut
Thanks Stumpy. This is the simplest way to set up the bit I’ve seen.
Thanks James. I bought a small one a while back but have yet to put it to use. Part of my reluctance stems from several safety warnings about the 1/4" shank ones failing under load, the other part was trying to decipher what I could find on line about the product. As usual, you completely demystify the process. Will be buying a 1/2" shank one soon, the corner joint quality is very attractive to me.
Thanks for simplifying the bit placement
So simple and the best instructions I have seen anywhere. So close on my first try I didn’t even adjust it since the fine corner will get sanded round.
Great video. Made my first box using the lock miter and it was dead on. Easy to follow instructions.
Thank you sir! Excellent, well explained, detailed explanation of how to set up these bits. I'm using these bits for the first time and am going crazy with "trial and error" to get the fit right. Your intelligent explanation has set me straight. FYI, for this type of bit, good idea recommending Whiteside or other top-of-the-line. I got a cheap set of multi sizes and it makes a mess with hardwood.
Hey Stumpy, I've owned a lock miter bit for probably over years. It's still unused and in the plastic box that it came in! As you mentioned, was afraid of using it. The massive size is intimidating and I wasn't sure of how to use it and I didn't have a decent router table. I recently bought a Kreg router table and now that I've seen this video I'm eager to try out your method of setting up the bit. Thanks man! Love your videos!!
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
Best explanation i have ever seen. Thanks
Great timing, I am about to order my lock miter bit
Thanks again for a informative show
Thanks for sharing with James! Great information. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋
Very useful information. Thank you.
I like your presentation very much. Infinity makes a lock mitre master jig which is a small magnetic device which shows the centre for both vertical and horizontal. I have used it for about a year and found that it makes alignment correct the first time almost every time. It is what your video shows but without the centerline guess work. Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. This is not a set up block, but rather an aluminium piece held on to the bit by magnetism, which extends the center lines for easier alignment.
Nice, I've been on the fence with getting those bits for a couple of years.
This is awesome! I especially love the method you used to both set up the height of the bit and fence positioning. I wonder, are there other methods of bit set up as intuitive as this?
Love hearing about family run brands to support, so often we rush to get the best bang for the buck not thinking of the cost this line of reasoning has.
Thanks for explaining and the demo
That is just *’l# amazing! Thank you
Bob
England
Great video on how to set these bits properly
Thank you, I had a cheap set and followed your directions. They worked just fine and the ends looked super. Now to get a better lock miter bit! The cheap ones were ok but the joints were not very snug on the inside edges. (No more cheap bits!) These were on 1/2" box sides. No setup blocks needed with your method!
I love your workshop I’m thinking of getting one of those router tables
Good simple setup.
*AWESOME Tutorial Stump!*
Thank you for the tutorial
Solid video, no fluff..excellent work
Had several moments with this cutter when I've not known whether to go up, down or sideways! Just be sure you have a mile of test pieces. But this tutorial helps - a little.
Love your tips with router
Such great tips!!
James, I value your vids. I try to catch all of them, even on an aspect that I do not currently engage in. You teach ways of thinking, which is always beneficial. And, who knows, the need for the specific skill or information may arise, and I will have some familiarity and know a source for greater knowledge. Keep on keepin' on.
ps- I have bought several recommended products, especially safety oriented ones.
Pretty interesting indeed, dude! 😃
Thanks a lot for all the tips!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I’m about as “amateur” as an amateur woodworker can be, and I’ve used the smaller Whiteside locking bit a few times in over the years.
I have to agree, it isn’t difficult to get setup and works consistently time and again.
I purchased a small cheap locking miter bit from Amazon. It is a pain in the but to set up and I never got it quite right for full 3/4 inch stock.
Stumpy is absolutely correct on saying the larger sized bits are the way to go for anything over about 5/8”. I bet the large bits produce better results all the way around.
When I feel rich I may try again. 😢
Meanwhile I will stick to my old ways of joinery.
Very useful tip. Also Bill Hylton in his " woodworking with the router " book gives a good method for adjusting this tricky bit;
Excellent video!
I just received my bits and they came with NO instructions or anything. This video will be very helpful. Thank you!
Great explanation
Wow I gotta get one of these
Thanks for this!!!
Very Helpful
How cool! Thanks!
I have one of these cutters and have never used it because I have been unsuccessful setting up. I will try again. Thanks
A Lock Miter Bit can also be used to make Stickley-Style, Arts & Crafts/Mission style legs for chairs, tables, etc. in Fine Woodworking No.121, Dec. 1996, by Patrick Nelson (p.p. 54-57). The original Stickley method required two shaper bits and set-ups but the lock miter bit only requires one bit at one setting, but two simple jigs to get legs with four quartersawn faces.
Good job I don’t have a bit yet but. I want to get one thanks for the update
Great video and your right I'm scared to try this but feel like I can now. New follower.
You sound under the weather...hope everything is going well. I always find your videos useful.
@@johnsrabe Yeah we got the same problem here in WV
My voice is always a little rough when we film in the morning :)
you got covid dude
@@neumero4te No I don't, Dude.
@@StumpyNubs I was thinking that that was your morning voice and then saw the cup of coffee. Mine sounds the same first thing.
Great video.
What a great idea.
So I noticed you made the horizontal and vertical cuts on the same piece of material and then rip to width, very nice I hadn’t considered doing that but sure make sense especially on narrower material you should point that out
Brilliant,thanks.