Wow, imagine how Stefan Bellof did a record lap time of 6:11.13 on this bumpy and patchy track back then in 1983. 🤯 In this raw car without modern assistant systems and modern tyres. I don't want to belittle the performance of Timo Bernhard in the 919 Evo on the today's track, but Bellof was an absolutely incredible driver!
And on an even more refined and safe track, AMG One took 18 seconds more than Bellof. Shows how little power and even AWD helps when your cars is heavier. F1 engine, 3x as much hybrid as an F1...and 18 seconds slower than a sportscar from 41 years ago on a slower version of the track.
@@CloxxkiYes but these cars were full-blooded racing cars with adjustable settings and seasoned pros driving them at a race meeting, as opposed to an AMG One which is a road car- which even driven by a seasoned pro during its hot lap the 2 cars are not comparable. These Group C cars also had huge amounts of adjustable downforce and were a whole lot lighter than the AMG-One- the 956 weighed nearly half as much- which is nearly a whole ton less than the AMG-One, and had a pretty hard suspension (for more stable aero) to boot.
Just watched an interview with Derek Bell where he says most of this lap was driven one handed as the heavy camera in the passenger side was moving about on the bumps, so he had his left arm keeping the belt holding the camera taut while driving and shifting with his other hand. He also mentioned how unpleasant it was driving the 956 on the ring because of the bumps constantly breaking the ground effect. Most of the bumps have been removed these days.
Wow, one of the greatest drivers, in one of the greatest race cars on, arguably, the greatest tracks. I have goose bumps and maybe something in my eyes. It doesn't get better than that!!
That’s freaking crazy to have those basically stock GT cars on the track with these monstrous beasts at the same time, the closing speeds are insane and downright dangerous 🤯
The video "In car: 956" where Derek Bell commentates is amazing and really gets you familiar with the circuit. I've watched that video I don't know how many times.
Once he's really on it, his early throttle application/ control with the turbo is just incredible. Thank you for this video and for the gift that is Derek Bell.
The "Old Nurburgring" is like an ancient Greek building: Almost unchanged and sublime since it was built but the vegetation around changes slowly and constantly.
Superb, many thanks for the upload. I bought a Beta tape of In-Car 956 in 1984 and it had background music from The Human League's "Love and Dancing". When I bought a VHS copy years later, it didn't have the music. I was almost disappointed!
This track is surreal as to the way it twists and turns....the scenery, ie trees along the track, blind corners, and the sun at times would blink drivers as they would go from shade, and suddenly emerge into the bright light! I encourage anyone who enjoys this footage, to look at races in F1 from circa 1967, and imagine 15 laps in those days on this course!!!
The long distance races for the Sports & Prototype race cars were 1,000 kms, (44 laps) of the full Nordschleife circuit (almost 23 kilometres), though the 1983 1,000 kms did not include the 3 kilometres of the 2 parallel straights of the old pit area with the wonderful Sud Kurve. In 1967 the Formula One cars would have been lighter (easier) to drive (not race, drive) than the last time Formula One raced there 9 years later. But the 956 Porsches and its competition would have been extremely heavy to drive, let alone race, and especially for that 1,000 kms distance. The physical strength needed would have to have been enormous.
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WOW! Even though this is practise... take a great driver like Derek Bell, put him in a great race car on a great track and he drives this 956 like a man possessed while most of the other drivers are just touring around. Great to see all those old teams and liveries.
Amazing footage of the Nurburgring. Perhaps the best footage onboard of the track. Love Group C if the era. It was competing with F1 in popularity which is why Bernie Eelestone pushed them towards 3.5 litre formula and destroyed the series which was his inten TV ion
So lucky Bell allowed the in-car camera so often. Must have been a heavy setup back then to the point of influencing his lap times. Its only practice though i guess. The dream would be some clips looking towards his feet and the shifter. Luv that soundtrack. Hellova driver. When he overtook the green car at 3:50 he started to work it with a clear track.
Judging by how little Bell slows down through hard turns these cars must have had unbelievable downforce as well as G load on the drivers. Awesome stuff.
No driver aides no computer crap nothing but pure talent & balls. The cars of today as in F1 & sports car driven by gamers not drivers of old. This video of Derek, Back when race cars needed race car drivers to drive them.
Try a 917 at '71. A huge gas tank behind your head, a huge gas tank on your right, left. Almost as fast as a 956. Driving essentially a rod with rocket fuel surrounding you. Those guys had some nerve
Rothmans paid for several Films to be made of the teams they sponsored in the 80's In Car 956 was one of these Legendry films the other is the equally amazing in Car Manta at the Isle of Man rally . I think I have owned this video on every format after first finding it on a rental Video back in the 80's these days we are use to HD in car filming . Back then only a handful of films were around and outside the Australian race at Bathurst with their pioneering use of in car race camara's it was very rare to see anything from the drivers point of view. The quality is still amazing for a film this age and very stable you can find far worse Gopro videos online ok the they used big full sized camera's in those cars back then. This film was missing the voice over the Derek made which is very informative especially saying how the car is so hard to control over the Nordschleife bumps at 190 mph . still a must own video for and race fan.
Castrol made some great videos back in the day too. Some of them are available on dvd as Castrol Classics, others can be watched on the bpvideo library. The isle of man onboard is Ari Vatanen and Terry Harryman in the Opel Manta 400. Great footage
I have both the VHS and the DVD version and that lap isn't on either of my 2 copys of in car 956. It was a different lap. In both my copys of in 956, Jacky icks comes flashing by Derek bell plus Derek narrates the lap.
In the old days Jackie Stewart advised to aim for the lone tree when climbing the hill on the entry to the Karussell. It was obviously still standing out in 1983 but certainly not now.
Are you sure it is derek bell driving? I'm not because you can see the bellof / bell #2 car at 1:01 Other than that cool footage. Thanks for sharing. Would be very nice to see the 6:11.13 onboad from Stefan
sadly onboard cameras were rarely fitted outside of a few specific filming laps during practice sessions back then, they were big and heavy and impractical, and Betacam only hit the market in 1982
This film may have been for marketing purposes. You will notice the other 2 Rothmans 956s are circulating, number 2 at the one minute mark, (as you've noted) and the number 1 at the 6:34 mark, which means Derek must be in number 3, the spare car. The fastest ever lap by Bellof would not have been able to be achieved, had he had a camera in the car, so sensitive the cars are to weight. For your interests sake, here is a video which during the opening credits has a few quick clips of the run up to the Adenauer Forst area. Alas, they are very fleeting, but does give an idea of how steep, narrow, and tight the corners are. (This doesn't happen in Derek's clip because of different camera lens). ruclips.net/video/G0cr8_Wahso/видео.html
Hi Gordon, I don't understand your comment. I actually have this video and although this is not the lap shown in the actual video (there's far fewer cars on the lap shown in the video) it was most certainly done in a Porsche 956. The video is well worth a look; they show Nurburgring, Spa, Le Mans, Silverstone, Kyalami, Mt Juji Speedway and Brands Hatch plus a bonus lap at Mosport.
In 1983 these Works Porsche 956 were the fastest car on track or road, any road racing format. It changed the rules Only thing close was a CART Championship Auto Racing Teams car. A Cart car driven by Helio Castroneves did break Porsche's record at the Ring and Spa
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X yeah, worth remembering that Betacam had only just hit the market in 1982; practical onboard cameras were still a few years off at this point
I remember a video, same title, years ago but was longer than this. Like full lap of the 'ring but other tracks as well. Am i nuts or wishful thinking? Great anyway!
The funny thing is that, if it wasn't dangerous enough to drive a Group C car, these guys drove them in one of the most tricky (to not say deadly) tracks in the world. Yea, race drivers were built different in the 80's....
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Wow, imagine how Stefan Bellof did a record lap time of 6:11.13 on this bumpy and patchy track back then in 1983. 🤯 In this raw car without modern assistant systems and modern tyres. I don't want to belittle the performance of Timo Bernhard in the 919 Evo on the today's track, but Bellof was an absolutely incredible driver!
I wish he listened to Derek Bell more. Fast and skilled driver but took risk
And on an even more refined and safe track, AMG One took 18 seconds more than Bellof. Shows how little power and even AWD helps when your cars is heavier. F1 engine, 3x as much hybrid as an F1...and 18 seconds slower than a sportscar from 41 years ago on a slower version of the track.
@@CloxxkiYes but these cars were full-blooded racing cars with adjustable settings and seasoned pros driving them at a race meeting, as opposed to an AMG One which is a road car- which even driven by a seasoned pro during its hot lap the 2 cars are not comparable. These Group C cars also had huge amounts of adjustable downforce and were a whole lot lighter than the AMG-One- the 956 weighed nearly half as much- which is nearly a whole ton less than the AMG-One, and had a pretty hard suspension (for more stable aero) to boot.
Good god. 1983. There was a reason these cars were legendary.
It's crazy how little the track has changed, right down to the curbs!
I cant get over how much the track and the scenery has changed. What a time capsule. What a lap. Amazing
The track has changed little but in parts the trees are simply overgrown.
Scenery yes, track very little.
Just watched an interview with Derek Bell where he says most of this lap was driven one handed as the heavy camera in the passenger side was moving about on the bumps, so he had his left arm keeping the belt holding the camera taut while driving and shifting with his other hand. He also mentioned how unpleasant it was driving the 956 on the ring because of the bumps constantly breaking the ground effect. Most of the bumps have been removed these days.
Wow, one of the greatest drivers, in one of the greatest race cars on, arguably, the greatest tracks. I have goose bumps and maybe something in my eyes. It doesn't get better than that!!
It is the greatest track.
One of the best onboard laps I have seen.
That’s freaking crazy to have those basically stock GT cars on the track with these monstrous beasts at the same time, the closing speeds are insane and downright dangerous 🤯
When you see one of these GT cars next to a Group C car, it feels like it's being bullied
When you pass other cars like they are dustballs along the track.. I agree with you
@@فهدالشلوي-ح5ص why were they on the same track at the same time although its two different racing leauges
Derek Bell, must surely have a photographic memory and nerves of steel
The video "In car: 956" where Derek Bell commentates is amazing and really gets you familiar with the circuit. I've watched that video I don't know how many times.
Gran Turismo did that for me. Only reason I bought a PlayStation for haha. First affordable reasonably good sim back then that had the Nordschleife
Derek Bell; what a driver, magnificent🤩
Once he's really on it, his early throttle application/ control with the turbo is just incredible. Thank you for this video and for the gift that is Derek Bell.
The video is spectacular. Much more visceral and immersive than the new technology. Thanks for sharing. Love your content.
the old onboard cameras with their lack of stabilization technology are the best.
What's visceral is the beastly sound of that engine. It would equally come across with modern recording equipment.
The "Old Nurburgring" is like an ancient Greek building: Almost unchanged and sublime since it was built but the vegetation around changes slowly and constantly.
Yes, fascinating to see. Did a couple of laps lastJuly. Always such good fun to be there.
Amazing footage! I’m worn out just watching! Derek Bell - The best sports car driver ever.
Superb, many thanks for the upload. I bought a Beta tape of In-Car 956 in 1984 and it had background music from The Human League's "Love and Dancing". When I bought a VHS copy years later, it didn't have the music. I was almost disappointed!
Had the pleasure of taking a lap in 1988 in a Saab 9000. I could not imagine remembering all the corners to do it at this speed. Amaizing.
Good car
Interesting how much greener everything got. Way less trees here. Almost looks like a different track
i love how snappy is the steering, i love how derek graces a throttle early i love riding along with the great derek bell
This track is surreal as to the way it twists and turns....the scenery, ie trees along the track, blind corners, and the sun at times would blink drivers as they would go from shade, and suddenly emerge into the bright light!
I encourage anyone who enjoys this footage, to look at races in F1 from circa 1967, and imagine 15 laps in those days on this course!!!
The long distance races for the Sports & Prototype race cars were 1,000 kms, (44 laps) of the full Nordschleife circuit (almost 23 kilometres), though the 1983 1,000 kms did not include the 3 kilometres of the 2 parallel straights of the old pit area with the wonderful Sud Kurve.
In 1967 the Formula One cars would have been lighter (easier) to drive (not race, drive) than the last time Formula One raced there 9 years later. But the 956 Porsches and its competition would have been extremely heavy to drive, let alone race, and especially for that 1,000 kms distance. The physical strength needed would have to have been enormous.
Unbelievable level of skill shown by Dereck Bell , in traffic on a monster of a track, brilliant footage ❤❤❤❤
Bell is such a legend. a rare gentleman
🙏 Thank You So Much Duke Video for sharing this Classic 1983 World Sportcar Championship Race in Nürburgring , Germany , onboard a PORSCHE 956 driven by British Ace Driver Derek Bell! 🕯🌷🌿🌍💖🕊🇩🇪🇬🇧
I'm glad this was put up. Closest I'll ever get to a drive in my favorite car, legend porsche956. TY Mr Bell for doing this for us.
Stunning ,shows how quick he wasDerek Bell was as a race driver fa
Thank you much for this. I dreamed this when i was a kid. Track is in better condition!
Great pictures from the old days there !
WOW! Even though this is practise... take a great driver like Derek Bell, put him in a great race car on a great track and he drives this 956 like a man possessed while most of the other drivers are just touring around. Great to see all those old teams and liveries.
Crazy how this car is 5 seconds slower than the volkswagen idr. What a machine!
Those turbo's whoosing , my god that was so fast compared to what ive ever seen on the German track , EPIC !!
Incredible footage
He’s the boss of that track
Amazing footage of the Nurburgring. Perhaps the best footage onboard of the track. Love Group C if the era. It was competing with F1 in popularity which is why Bernie Eelestone pushed them towards 3.5 litre formula and destroyed the series which was his inten TV ion
Valuable footage , thanks for sharing !
Derek bell is a legend.
The guy is pushing
That looks and sounds beautifully terrifying.
BALLS OF STEEL !!!! Thx for the upload !!!!!
Thank You! Flippen Awesome
Derek Bell the best of the "Belle Époque"... 👍❗🏎️🏁🤓🇨🇵
So lucky Bell allowed the in-car camera so often. Must have been a heavy setup back then to the point of influencing his lap times. Its only practice though i guess. The dream would be some clips looking towards his feet and the shifter.
Luv that soundtrack. Hellova driver. When he overtook the green car at 3:50 he started to work it with a clear track.
Judging by how little Bell slows down through hard turns these cars must have had unbelievable downforce as well as G load on the drivers. Awesome stuff.
No driver aides no computer crap nothing but pure talent & balls.
The cars of today as in F1 & sports car driven by gamers not drivers of old.
This video of Derek,
Back when race cars needed race car drivers to drive them.
the landscape & skies look so early 80s
Man.. the track and its surroundings have changed so much..! 😳😳😳
one lap in that he must be dead tired. I cant imagine how difficult that was.
Looks like a real fight
Wow things get violent when the boost omes comes on full 😮❤
THANKFUL FOR THE UPLOAD.
This looks so different to me without all the treelines
Respect to the car and driver.
En route à bord d'une groupe C avec un champion du monde au palmarès éloquent, c'est un pur moment de bonheur
Now that's a man's circuit
Very good front grip.
These cars must've have been really nerve racking to drive on the Nordschleife. but fun too I bet.
Like wrestling an angry bear, whilst also on fire, with some potent cobras in the footwell and a particularly cross crocodile for a passenger
@@nelsonclub7722 all of those on crack.
Try a 917 at '71. A huge gas tank behind your head, a huge gas tank on your right, left. Almost as fast as a 956. Driving essentially a rod with rocket fuel
surrounding you. Those guys had some nerve
@@erikhalvorseth3950 balls of steel
Rothmans paid for several Films to be made of the teams they sponsored in the 80's In Car 956 was one of these Legendry films the other is the equally amazing in Car Manta at the Isle of Man rally .
I think I have owned this video on every format after first finding it on a rental Video back in the 80's
these days we are use to HD in car filming .
Back then only a handful of films were around and outside the Australian race at Bathurst with their pioneering use of in car race camara's
it was very rare to see anything from the drivers point of view.
The quality is still amazing for a film this age and very stable you can find far worse Gopro videos online ok the they used big full sized camera's in those cars back then.
This film was missing the voice over the Derek made which is very informative especially saying how the car is so hard to control over the Nordschleife bumps at 190 mph .
still a must own video for and race fan.
Castrol made some great videos back in the day too. Some of them are available on dvd as Castrol Classics, others can be watched on the bpvideo library. The isle of man onboard is Ari Vatanen and Terry Harryman in the Opel Manta 400. Great footage
Sensational... Phenomenal !!!
Crazy that there are parts of the track that do not have any armco barriers
So much more light than today, younger trees and even missing trees in places. You see the hillsides better.
Flugplatz was insanity.
I have both the VHS and the DVD version and that lap isn't on either of my 2 copys of in car 956. It was a different lap.
In both my copys of in 956, Jacky icks comes flashing by
Derek bell plus Derek narrates the lap.
In the old days Jackie Stewart advised to aim for the lone tree when climbing the hill on the entry to the Karussell. It was obviously still standing out in 1983 but certainly not now.
Are you sure it is derek bell driving? I'm not because you can see the bellof / bell #2 car at 1:01
Other than that cool footage.
Thanks for sharing.
Would be very nice to see the 6:11.13 onboad from Stefan
sadly onboard cameras were rarely fitted outside of a few specific filming laps during practice sessions back then, they were big and heavy and impractical, and Betacam only hit the market in 1982
This film may have been for marketing purposes. You will notice the other 2 Rothmans 956s are circulating, number 2 at the one minute mark, (as you've noted) and the number 1 at the 6:34 mark, which means Derek must be in number 3, the spare car.
The fastest ever lap by Bellof would not have been able to be achieved, had he had a camera in the car, so sensitive the cars are to weight.
For your interests sake, here is a video which during the opening credits has a few quick clips of the run up to the Adenauer Forst area. Alas, they are very fleeting, but does give an idea of how steep, narrow, and tight the corners are. (This doesn't happen in Derek's clip because of different camera lens).
ruclips.net/video/G0cr8_Wahso/видео.html
a lot of the other prototype drivers are driving like they don’t know he is there.
Just amazing!
😁
Man did he wring that thing out. Beautiful car.
Hi! Brand name in title video is wrong (must be Porsche). Excellent video! Love to see more ring footage!
Hi Gordon, I don't understand your comment. I actually have this video and although this is not the lap shown in the actual video (there's far fewer cars on the lap shown in the video) it was most certainly done in a Porsche 956. The video is well worth a look; they show Nurburgring, Spa, Le Mans, Silverstone, Kyalami, Mt Juji Speedway and Brands Hatch plus a bonus lap at Mosport.
That's awesome!
Just listen to that big flat 12 sing, tis a thing of beauty
flat 6
In 1983 these Works Porsche 956 were the fastest car on track or road, any road racing format. It changed the rules Only thing close was a CART Championship Auto Racing Teams car. A Cart car driven by Helio Castroneves did break Porsche's record at the Ring and Spa
The ring is what separates the men from the boys
Brilliant!!!
Ground Effects basically glued these beasts to the tarmac...
This is the real record.
Many thanks
Please the record lap from Bellof on RUclips
Onboard cameras were very uncommon back then, it was - most likely - not recorded.
I understand that it wasnt recorded.
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X yeah, worth remembering that Betacam had only just hit the market in 1982; practical onboard cameras were still a few years off at this point
There is currently no videos of this lap
There was never any footage
so this lap is like 6:30 ish second, imaging finish the lap 20 seconds faster, damn
4:20 Carousel if you're wondering.
Why does it cut off before the end of that straightaway? The start-finish line is less than 5 seconds later.
0:08 is that a BMW M1? and again at 0:20? If so awesome
Yes, M1 😍
Back when the Nordschleife was new, and the mist was so thick you could park your bike against it. The good 'ol days.
Doc Brown, where is the DeLorean??
If I could have only one car...any car... it would be the 956.
2:09 1983 rebel tree
those guys' giant balls of steel lowers the car's center of gravity
Group C madness
I felt dizzy just watching the video. I can't imagine lapping the track at that speed.
I remember a video, same title, years ago but was longer than this. Like full lap of the 'ring but other tracks as well. Am i nuts or wishful thinking? Great anyway!
www.dukevideo.com/prd3480/In-Car-956-DVD
@@dukevideo thanks
Rothmans made so many onboard videos, yet rarely any onboard of Stefan Bellof seems to exist???
ruclips.net/video/s3j1qOoFE3A/видео.html
Out of interest, anyone know Derik’s lap time?
the master
The funny thing is that, if it wasn't dangerous enough to drive a Group C car, these guys drove them in one of the most tricky (to not say deadly) tracks in the world. Yea, race drivers were built different in the 80's....
Knowing nothing will overtake you 🤷♂️
Ummm, this was done WITH TRAFFIC !! Imagine without TRAFFIC and a closed track !!
....as were the drivers!!!
Watch this listening to New Order Blue Monday i promise you won't Regret it 😈
AWESOME
Sickest track: Green Hell
wow
Seemingly unlimited acceleration.
rebel tree my beloved
When I see this I must think to Stefan bellow😰
They did not hit 220 mph at this track. 190 mph is more like it. They ran high downforce so top speed was reduced as compared to a Le Mans aero setup.
And I believe is flat, out out,
wrc tarmac stage that was pretending to be a race track