Awesome In car action! Jochen Mass - Spa 1000kms - Porsche 962
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- 1st September 1985, Spa Francorchamps, Belgium - Thunder down the start-finish straight and through the famous dip at Eau Rouge with our in-car camera in the cockpit of top German driver Jochen Mass in the No.1 works Porsche 962.
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Through the first half of the race Mass dices with championship leader Derek Bell, Italian flyer Ricardo Patrese and Thierry Boutsen trying harder than ever in front of the home crowd.
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The sheer amount of talent witnessed in that 10 minutes was astounding.
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Old "Bus stop" was simply G R E A T ! ! ! Bring it BACK !
I love this version of Spa with the high curbs and very little runoff room. You had to be clean or you were dead. The path through the 2nd half of Blanchemont is almost scary.
epistte agree 100%. Much more of a challenge. Old bus stop rules. The current one is awful
@@jenscee7679 Well not awful but just not that fun as it used to be. The 2004-2006 bus stop, that one was plain awful... The one with the kink to the right before the actual chicane.
@@Yoshik379 I think 2004-2006 was better than the current one since braking for it was much more of a challenge.
Imagine clipping the kerb in blanchimont, its way freaking scary.
I have never seen an onboard video this good from the 80s. Super cool!
5:47 Are you shitting me.
Those were crazy times and these dudes had huge balls, dancing with death every time they got into their cars.
If this is Jochen Mass then huge respect to him, crazy stuff.
That's the "modestly reasonable chance I won't die today" lifestyle.
Very well said , took extreme guts to drive those monsters........
I know, it's insane.
The driver is Jochen Maas!
Kids nowadays call him "shit".. because he lost to James Hunt in an underpowered McLaren🤣
3:28 shows, how intelligent he was in a racing car. One of the best german drivers EVER!
Outstanding!! No Traction Control, no Power Steering, no ABS. Just real racing drivers driving real race cars on a real circuit. Bravo
When people say power steering or lack thereof, they fail to realize once the car is moving over 5mph or even that, it becomes a moot apparatus. It's only taxing when you're trying to maneuver in very slow speeds.
ABS and Traction Control are there... They are in your feet! and for the T.C., it’s a combo with what your ass is feeling... That’s why there is almost no padding in racing seats (and that a lot of sporty drivers prefer the German manufacturers with their “hard” seats)
That Ebutuoy Guy no the porsche 956 and the 962 really had heavy steering even at high speeds. Obviously its much more heavy at low speeds but these cars felt heavy even at high speeds
And no paddle shifters on the steering wheel ....
@@thatebutuoyguy788 Not in a race car. It's still difficult and adds up over the course of a race. Plus the higher steering ratio makes you have to move your hands around a lot more. Plus you have to take one hand off to shift...
Max Verstappen recently lost partial power steering when Vettel plowed into the back of him and sent him flying off a curb and he said he got quite the workout. Of course, it's a little different with the lower steering ratio of those cars... without any power steering you can't even drive them at race pace.
I do believe THIS is my all time favorite “onboard” video! And that’s including all my favorite Senna onboard videos! This has to be the most intense, raw and just pure onboard racing video ever recorded. Oh! And none of that crappy “wide angle lenses” stuff. THIS is what these turns and speeds really look like from the drivers perspective!
Agreed on that wide-angle crap. It really distorts the sense of speed.
@@davidjack3 im gonna check that out now 🙂
@@davidjack3 damn ha ha talk about snakey
Absolutely brutal,this was possibly more interesting than F1 at the time
The Lancia LC2 was clearly faster,but lacked reliability.On the other hand the Porsche 956,and the later safety-upgraded 962C were the enduring ones. These cars make today's F1 races look like the Wacky Races!
the LC2 came out of the turns and chicanes cleaner and therefor back onto the gas quicker...slight advantage with brakes and suspension...made it slightly faster on the course...entering, through and exiting
Also the added weight of the camera in the car. Not like it is today. The weight probably of the camera probably had an effect on performance.
@@deckard2665 It's possible that the team were able to compensate for the weight of the camera, and put the car on the grid at the minimum legal weight. The cameras in those days were quite large and fairly heavy, though, and this camera is clearly mounted high in the cockpit. That in itself, would be a disadvantage, due to the adverse effect on CG height.
huh? porsche 956 did unbeatable record in 35 years at nurburgring at qualifying 24 hour nurburgring
Porsche had ground effect going for them in those cars
First of all; YES !!! Awesome video (i'm just discovering it) Comments are a bit confused on "who and when". I'll try to summarize. This is start of SPA 1000km 1985. Onboard Porsche 962C #1 (Mass-Ickx grid position 6th) passing one by one Lancia LC2 #5 (futur winner) at 0:28; Porsche 956B NewMan #7 at 0:37; Porsche 956B Schiesser #19 (Bellof) at 0:48 and Porsche 962C #2 (Bell-Stuck) at 2:53. Pole Lancia LC2 #4 stays ahead. Check this: www.sonuma.com/archive/accident-mortel-aux-1000-km-de-spa-francorchamps
This is Belgian TV report on Bellof's fatal accident. You see clearly cars at the start incl. part of this video. Hope this will help
I love that you can hear the tires squealing in the audio. Can't hear that in most racing videos!
This popped up so often in my YT suggestions that I finally had to watch it.... hooray for normal angle lenses for in-car camera shots!!The sense of speed is phenomenal and way more relateable than most of today's wide angle shots. I could almost feel the lateral forces when watching this!
Wonderful!!! Eau Rouge taken this way with the squeeling tyres is astonishing!!!
I thought I was going to die at 8:00 through Eau Rouge. Always an epic track.
Group C is the pinnacle of the prototype era as far as I’m concerned. The menacing howl of those engines is probably what inspired Spielbergs 90s epic Jurassic Park 😂 the memories of those 80s Mulsanne monsters are simply electrifying ❤🙏🏽
I've not seen this footage before. Talk about great stuff! I might be late to the party but thanks for making this available. This is edge-of-your-seat kinda racing... Love it!!
Wicked.... I actually found myself leaning into the turns ! 😎
The way he takes Eau Rouge is insane
+Chris James I thought so too. I think some of it has to do with the curbing. It's much higher than it is now. Actually, the curbing is so even that the racing line is now straight over it, both on the left and the right. But the way it looks back then, you had to stay off the curbs and do more of a back-and-forth saw at the wheel, as a result. I could be wrong.
And what about the bus stop chicane and the next one, huh? Insane...
Far too slow for Bellof.
That’s raidillon actually
@@apexgt4 The first part is Eau Rouge, and that's where he is clearly very fast. he carries so much speed through the left hander, and uses to perfection the moment at the very bottom where it starts going uphill and the car "heavy" to brake and change direction. But he is very fast through Raidillon as well :-)
Jesus, this is better than sex! I wish nowaday's races were like this... What a shame.
And, by the way, who the hell would dislike this footage?! :-(
Maybe the people who realized the uploader completely fucked up the title. It's not Stefan Bellof's car here, nor is it him driving this car. What we're watching is the perspective of Jochen Mass and Jacky Ickx's car, with Jochen Mass currently at the wheel. You can even see Bellof's ACTUAL car in this video at 0:05 to the right and later at 3:57 when he passes Jochen Mass (the perspective we're watching.)
Still a great video, just marred by an idiotic uploader.
_"Jesus, this is better than sex!"_
Then you're probably doing it wrong...
Respec
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Depends on who you are with or maybe the car..........
@@jonathantrauner5731 i hate cars and sex,pouah!i like flowers
back when driver had to " manual" shift, and be smooooth& quick, lap after lap......
J Clm he had a clutch to
Gotta be honest, Sequential gearbox is miles better than manual, the way the car shifts so quickly is something that a human with a manual can never match
@@Elinzar AI is so much better than human, go sit on couch
@@Elinzar look up for e46m3gtr driven by Hans Joachim Stuck and You'll see that he shifts like a sequential.
@@Elinzar True, a sequential box is faster than a manual. Great for racing, but for me not as much fun on the streets/roads.
The last days of hairy chested drivers?, yeah, some really brave driving...😎
No wonder the FIA stopped these sports cars from continuing into the 90s, they were as good or even better than the Formula One at the time. And Formula One couldn’t have that. This is the way racing should be today
Even in 2019, still Amazing, thank you for sharing
Actually it's more amazing than modern stuff. Back when men were men and it was ok
God I wish I lived in the house at La Source.
OhItsThat You'd never get any sleep, and it would take forever to get home from work and unload the groceries. It's better to visit.👍
thats why you got the groceries for a month like the fanatic that you are :DDDDDD
h20 I would get lots of sleep
I take the hous on the mulsane straight.
You guys are idiots. If you truly wanted that, you can put this video on loop and try falling asleep to that.
I really loathe nonsensical jokes / appraisement
Kills bugs fast!
Excellent footage! (subscribed)
R.I.P., Stefan Bellof
No traction control, no AWD, no ABS, no sequential gearbox, no paddle shifters, no rev limiter and no simulators to aid training...this was the Golden Age and nearly the end of the era. These cars required maximum ability and focus at all times in order to wring out every last bit of speed and lower your lap times every hundredth of a second possible. This was the time of men and this was the time of machines.
Stefan was such a talented driver. It's shame he died so early in his career.
He was a risk taker, and that is what got him killed, and bad luck
Daniel Flores It's a shame he got MURDERED so early in his career. Perhaps... The fastest driver ever.
Thank you Jacky Ickx, hope you burn in hell you miserable piece of shit
thesantiso Eau Rouge is not meant for the kind of maneuver Stefan attempted. He had all of Kemmel to attempt an overtake. He was fast, but very hot-headed. Ickx is not to blame for his death, he had the line and Stefan should've backed off. Shame that he died nevertheless
thesantiso Outrageous statement. I understand that you are a fan of his but Stefan made a terrible decision to pass in an impossible place. I've seen the in car camera from Ickx's car and he can take no blame whatsoever. He was online, not blocking, Stefan ran into him and the impact into the Armco was not survivable. A racing accident brought on by a questionable decision by a driver. I liked Stefan and was sad about his death but to blame Ickx is crazy.
*****
You do know what the vulgar term "gentleman racer" means right? Gentleman racer means a man racer who would not make you hit the wallride for making a stupid pass, no matter how stupid it was.
Ickx, is a piece of shit. I'm not balming 100% him. But he knew he could have avoided that, and he yet decided to press on. He was slower, he will always be... Maybe that's why this piece of shit had to touch Bellof's rear end
That Martini Lancia is quick.
They were quicker than Porsches but their ferrari engines never get reliable...
Most fun i've had in a while. Ten tenths and tires talkin back and, oh my, eau rouge!!! Jochen Mass is now on my list. Never saw this till now, awsome! Thanx!
this must be one of the best videos on RUclips!!!! awesome!
F1 is so boring compared to this.
@ya I don't need no excuse to shit on nowadays f1. This clearly looks more entertaining than modern f1, aswell as 80-90 f1. The regulations and rules changes are slowly killing f1. The knowledge about those cars has nothing to do about you being a dick.
ya Well, you’re being a bit unfair. That’s like the people saying bringing back group b is pointless because today’s cars are faster anyways. Of course they are, because of improving technology that tries find advantages where regulations has not been set yet. There are several reasons why many (there is a lot btw) why older racing appeals more to people than modern racing (through all disciplines). Today’s cars (apart from gt3) are boring as can be, every car looks the same because of the stricter regulations that has to be followed. Modern technology could also make the cars a hell of a lot faster, and the cars still being well within capable of handling it (look at redbulls prototype car for gts). There are technologies to keep the cars and tracks safer so accidents could occur without death. (Which apart from group b rally were not as great as people want them to be). And the sounds are much tamer than that of the older cars, not saying they sound boring, but compared to the older cars they don’t roar nearly as much (apart maybe from the new Porsche rsr)
To be fair, just about anything is boring compared to Group C/GTP :P
F1 has become a sterile technological money go round. It has little to do with racing.
ya
Its not nostalgia just for the sake of it.
Nor is it the matter of speed cars can acomplish, be it a new or older ones. Nor is it really about this cars being more dangerous with “living on the edge” approach.
Its just that this kind of footage gives a much more visceral feel of driving sensation, as the cars itself are as analogue and at the same time as fast as they can be.
I mean, modern equivavlent of this cars, which are LMP1’s are incredible machines, and me myself too enjoy watching them race.
However if I would be given a choice of which raw unedited footage I would see, it would always be this one.
And from the drivers view, as in if I would be given a choice of which car between a GrC and LMP1 I could drive, be it a fun stint or an actual race, the answer would still be the same.
They are simply overwhelming experience, and superior performance of modern machines cannot compensate for that.
Jesus, this has been the Time, when the skill and performance of a driver has count most. Love it
MENTAL! Jochen Mass is a Legendary Legend! On-It!
The 80s-90s in all motorsport was insane. Limits where found in f1 endurance rally etc . Lives lost like at this race but amazing machines and races
Outstanding video, who would have thought that the day would get so dark within a few hours...
I don't think the driver is Stefan Bellof. On 3:56 you can see a blue Porsche. That must be the Schiesser Porsche of Bellof and Boutsen. In the video you can also notice the Martini Lancia. Lancia didn't drive at Spa Francorchamps in 1984. In 1985 they won the race after the tragic accident of Bellof. This video must have been made in 1985.
This is Jochen Mass driving and it is not even Bellof's car.
+Fr. Duffy Fighting 69th and with steel discs ;-)
Duh...
I could watch this for hours. Shame that there is not that much footage from inboard cameras in those days.
I don’t know if it’s just biased perception, but this feels so much more crazier ,dangerous and deadly than today’s races 40 years on. The driver skills at various parts of the circuit feel as much survival skills as well as manoeuvring skills to pass competitors. Simply astonishing. You appreciate the more you repeat watch, a whole world of competition driving opens up that I’ve never seen or sensed in any other onboard driving including F1. This work should be preserved in a national archive as one of the finest, if not the greatest onboard race car videos ever recorded.
Unless I am very much mistaken this was the race Bellof died in. If so, the camera car is a 962 not a 956 and it is probably at this apparent early stage in the race, being driven by Jochen Mass who was Jacky Ickx's team-mate. As other comments have suggested Bellof's car appears to be the one overtaking the camera car at 3:55 although at this stage in the race it is probably Thierry Boutsen at the wheel. Fantastic footage none the less.
The car Bellof crashed and died in is just ahead of his at 0:43. He comes up to him again a few minutes later. He is behind it again at 5:37.
Correct, the Schiesser 962
Respect for the Drivers who worked hard back in those days not like now everything is pushbutton
This was when men drove the car's NOT computer's. This is PURE talent!!!
Wow - that was.... BRUTAL! Got every muscle in my body tensioned!
I'm stunned...... it's for me not possible to understand how fast these cars where...and Stefan was maybe the most talented driver ever.... i can watch this over and over and still be just as stunned every lap.... the speed trough the bus stop is........well i have no words....thank you God that i found this video
This is Jochen Mass, Not Stefan Bellof.
aha..thx for setting the record straight, /cheers
But the video will still catch twice the hits with its current title than with Jochen Mass in the headline
its good
Real cars and real drivers
Fake cras, they don´t exist, change my mind
Crazy Cupckake right, fake cras don’t exist but fake cars do
Wow, he could really drive! Great footage. Love the sounds.
No fuss, no drama, just damn good driving.
Spa was INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL in '85 what a good time it should have been!! God bless Stefan Bellof
Stefan was pure talent! As much as Senna (and I am brazilian...)
I would love if f1 would take a 180 degree and turn its back on technology. Total manual 6 speed gearbox. No electronics aids. No electric boost engine. Just man and its analog machine
why not create a new league, where they only allow cars like what you specified?
That makes no sense for purpose of the category, F1 is always looking for progress in current technologies and deliver new ones, you don't have to change that focus to make a better show, you just have to put limits in team's budgets and make some changes in the actual regulations to reduce the breach between teams, and eventually, that will give us better races.
@@mattRides420 Your suggestion would choke investment into the series and probably kill the entire thing within 2 seasons. And if F1 were about "pushing the envelope" with technology then they wouldn't have all those stupid regulations. Bernie Ecclestone summed it up: it's a glorified circus act, and ultimately it's "show business". That's why he suggested sprinklers at the trackside, it's all a ridiculous clown show.
@@christianponicki9581 with a budget limit you allow new teams to enter in the category, and actually, regulations are necessary for every sport, I don't know if you notice, but all the hybrid engines that we have on the market, most of them are thanks to the f1, I don't understand your point saying that the category would be killed by that lol.
@@mattRides420 Without govt subsidies the whole hybrid/electric market collapses: see Denmark in 2015/2016. F1 isn't to thank as much as govt money. The subsidies are pretty huge.
Also, budget limits are caps on investment into a series. As a series grows, its value rises and more money comes in. F1 succeeds because teams are allowed to spend $500m per year. If budgets were capped, it's true that more teams could "top out" their budgets. But it's also true that Mercedes, Ferrari, etc - the big teams - wouldn't be allowed to spend the money they want, and they would probably quit.
Pretty much you can estimate the value of the series by how much teams want to spend, and it also works in reverse: if you cap how much teams can spend then you limit how much the series can grow. With harsh budget caps, F1 would probably tank really quick, and it'd lose the top teams.
Real men with real balls, driving real cars at a real circuit...
That 10 mins of 230mph+ Group C madness totally fried my senses. …if this was at Le Mans they’d still have 93% of the race left 😳 wtf do these drivers come from? Krypton?
5:15 this downshifting 😍
Forget modern LMP or F1 - This is what racing should look like. Every second of this was exciting as hell. Skating through Eau Rouge like the car is on ice, frying the tyres out of half the corners as the turbos spool, throwing the car through tight chicanes like it's kart racing! These cars were absolute monsters, and the drivers had to fight to control them. I would rather watch group C any day over any modern circuit racing.
how times have changed 🙁
in the future they wont even have drivers, they will just push a button and simulate the race and it will be very exciting to all the people slobbering from medication
and pooping out bits o mcdonalds wrappers.
i need a new planet anyone have any recommendations?
Don’t go to Mars - Elon wants to nuke it.
Just this year (june 2020 for future travelers) we had the very first ever virtual 24h of le mans, but cmon man, racers are still racers, just because the car is not a death trap in case of a crash doesnt mean pilots endure less shit
It really takes an exceptional and lucky person to be successful at winning races in the sport back then and not die from it. All of these guys were tremendous athletes.
Ten minutes of ecstasy- now, THAT'S driving!
Just amazing. Try to drive a type C car in assetto Corsa with all assists off (like the real deal) and you’ll even struggle to keep it accelerating out of every corner. If I manage 3-4 fast laps without crashing I feel like a hero… behind the safety of my sim racing setup… like a wimp.
At Blanchimont back in the day = a small mistake, BUM - straight into a guard rail! At those speeds the probability of going straight through them was huge and eating some trees in the process as an appetizer was not to far fetched, I´m guessing...
Damn. BALLS of STEEL. Those tracks were dangerous as hell! Those tracks were fun as hell!
That is the real frightening thrill ... every big mouth hot hatch hero should have been sentenced five laps shotgun .. forcing them to hand over the keys to their ladies . having crawled back trembling and drooling to their low riding shopping carts ;)
This really proves how boring motorsports is these days. 35 year old cars that would beat pretty much anything driving around today including F1. The sound alone is awesome.
my absolute favorite cars. Peak of Motorsport
The race during which Stefan Bellof was killed. 1985 Spa 1000 Kms.
insane - and no paddle shift BS! Mass was a fantastic driver, the way he wrestles with the car, shifting with the right hand - and what a beast of a car - and what a sound!
2:45 I think even people who rate themselves as racing fans would not be able to appreciate how breathtaking and dangerous this driving is, I'm speechless
The curbs were really big then and there was no run off area at blanchimont! Scary stuff
That was fricking AWESOME!!!!! thanks for sharing. I sat in one of the 962 about 2000, amazing machine
jochen mass and porsche 962 , two of the greatest things to ever grace a racetrack . what a couple of absolute legends
*Spa-Francorchamps* is such an awesome track... you actually feel like you’re going somewhere unlike all these frelling *Herman Tilke* tracks that are just _”squiggly bit, straight, squiggly bit with a corner _*_inspired_*_ by a good track, straight, squiggly bit...”._
Thank the FIA. They mandate the design of most major tracks or, rather any track that wishes to be FIA certified. They make the tracks boring or, less interesting, in the interest of driver safety. Shorter straights, turns of a certain radius, maximum and minimum banking, are all products of FIA mandates. Chicanes on The Mulsanne are a great example.
You know one of most beloved modern tracks was made by Tilke?
Its my favourite. Its the most beautiful racetrack in the world, in my opinion. Mugello is the 2nd (though that has almost always been used by MotoGP only)...
How exciting, I was leaning into every turn while sitting in my chair watching it! I wish the whole race was recorded I would watch every second.
Now thats what you call racing.
Remember this is the guy who set a time 5 seconds off of Belof at the Nurburgring.
Lancia LC2 were super fast, specially on straight line, and often set the poles on most endurance races.But this are endurance races, and consumption counts, plus they were not very reliable. BTW that engine found another use on the GTO evoluzione and F40 ferraris, and ended up winning lemans... on an F40
Interesting...
what is that white spot Porsche 956 cannot grab? a bird? a rocket? Nooo, it is Super Lancia LC2.
Until the Lancia breaks down anyway.
Lancia LC2- the car that won.... nothing 😂😂😂 so it should be called shitty Lancia LC 2
That engine sound and wheels screeching...fuck yes...get some...
Run little Lancia! What a epic race...
Absolutely awesome stuff. Group C really was the dog's bollocks and you need humungous bollocks to drive them flat through Eau Rouge like Bellof. A sad loss to racing
Mike Kleinsteuber i was about to say, eau rouge scared the hell out of me in this video lol
Jochen was so so quick into Eau rouge
The onboard isn't from Bellof's car, it's from the #1 Ickx/Bell works Porsche, that was the car carrying the onboard camera at Spa in '85 (which is what this race looks to be). Bellof's car is the one ahead and to the right on the way into La Source at the start of the clip.
EDIT: And passing the camera car on the inside into Les Combes at 3:55.
You're partly correct, because it is actually Jochen Mass (search for a video of the start in actually broadcast pictures, you can see the same onboard footage in it). And for a final proof I googled starting grid of the race and Mass started 6th.
I hope this is a mistake and not just a clickbait attempt by Duke.
Unstop Pable Whoops. Yes, I did mean Ickx/Mass, it was early morning and I'd just read a piece on Derek Bell a few minutes prior. :))
It's Mass/Ickx's car with Mass currently driving it. What you said wasn't wrong even if you left out that Mass is currently driving in this video ;)
Ickx/Maas
The name of the worlds most famous corner is the Raidillon and not Eau Rouge. Greetings from Belgium.
Eau Rouge is the first part to the left, then when you go uphill, it's Raidillon. Greetings from Belgium too ;-)
Raidillon is where you will die if you make mistake at Eau Rouge.
@@alexp4932 Not anymore. It looks more like a straight now, due to F1...
That looked exhausting.
Sublime footage, absolutely one my favourite tracks ever
Can't beat Bathurst bro lol
Lancia made great racingcars back in those days.
Yes. Mass would brake later and catch up at turns, then the Lancia would take off and leave him behind.
Simply the best video. Stefan was one of the very best but even Ken Tyrrell could not control him. Amazing video ; exit to the Bus Stop - straight at the bloody barriers !! Down hill to Pouhoun (?) unbelievable speed. Group C was beyond EPIC & so were the drivers.
Someone bloody good in the Lancia-Ferrari ; Ricardo Patrese maybe ? If it is the Ickxs car then Jackie was epic to ( but we know that surely ? )
Now that is a racing driver at work.......awesome.
Regardless who is driving in that Video, Bellof or Mass, both were absolutely talented & gifted drivers during their active careers. I wish Stefan could still enjoy his immense popularity as Jochen is doing today. I met Jochen this Year in Stuttgart, an absolutely down to earth guy for which I admire him after all that success. And I will do so even more, if he is the driver behind the wheel in that absolutely stunning clip. Thank you very much for posting.
Real Men, Gladiators, their like wont be seen again
You need to see these cars on the old, long Spa course. Brian Redman told me the G forces were so bad it crazed the plexiglass windscreen and he drove the then fastest race ever run looking out the side windows at barriers and ad banners to navigate the track!😮
I would love to drive a 962 porsche if I could get one out of the museum....I have been wanting one my whole life till I found out so is every one else,hah hah hah hah,that bidding war is way out of my zone...THANKS
If this doesn’t release some adrenaline while listening on headphones nothing will.
The old bus stop would have been great fun to drive, mad respect for the guys who conquered these beasts, also love the run at 5:34 and the way that the back marker let Mass by before radillon (idk how to spell it 🤦♂️)
These were the days! Back when Jackie Icx,Derek Bell,Al Holbert, were the tip of the spear. I only can imagine a lap at Spa was like.
This video is so awesome, I've watched it countless times and it always puts a smile on my face, the cars, sound, circuit and driving are all amazing, just love it 👌
Best on board ever.
Absolutely ringing the cars neck.
Who's driving the lead car,it's fast.
It's a Lancia LC2. They were easily faster than the Porsches, but their Ferrari engines were never reliable.
Bob Wollek or Mauro Baldi. They won this race with Riccardo Patrese for the last relay.
@@Stratahoovius This car had 2 problems. The priority of budgets for group B (Lancia Delta S4) and the reliability of the gearbox (interview with Cesare Fiorio in the book on Bob Wollek)
@@jazzprog6838 yeah, they clearly pumped all their money into the Lancia S4.
Ickx and Bell, Mass and Stuck ?
Joined from 1983 by the short lived flame of Stefan Bellof.
God bless.
Every now and then I just come back and watch this video. Some of the best on board ever.
now this was racing. the sounds were unchained. the drivers were flawed, and the cars were still cars. all analogue, all passion, and all integrity. we didn't know what was going to happen, and men took their chances...
now they program the race into a computer and the driver has to try to keep up with a simulated version of his car at it's best.
R.I.P Stefan Bellof
Martin Brundle says he loves these big, brutal powerful cars, I can see why! Unlike F1, how fast you go in one of these isn't dependent on how much of the latest fancy carbon fibre 'twiddly bits' you have on your car,...it just boils down to how big your balls are today!...man! that plunge down thru Au Rouge!....
This onboard would be soo much better if we didn't know how it ultimately ends after Ickz takes over driving duties.
I'll just stick to Gran Turismo where I belong 😒
LOL. :D