I always wanted write about that, but did not have a name for it 😆. I think the most influential intertextuality i have seen is the use of religous icons in advertising, politics and entertainment.
I started to read Baudrillard, and had some familiarity with his overall concepts, but I felt that I needed a more 'soft' introduction to get me going and so this video did it for me. Very clear with a lot of visual examples. So that's a subscribe for me. Thanks!
As someone obsessed with prestige shows like mad men and succession Thankyou for showing me I’m not crazy and giving me a word to describe what I know I’m seeing that isn’t subtext or Easter eggs
Very clear and well done video! I'm just curious about something because I watched a different video, and it was a little unclear about how intertextuality works. You pointed out how Star Wars brought back those cantina characters for a sequel, and that is a direct intertextual link. Would the new Star Wars movies bringing back the Millenium Falcon be considered intertextuality or just following up with something in their canon? Basically: Does intertextuality apply to any reference to another piece of media, including bringing back characters from previous films, or is it confined specifically to less commonplace references?
I'd like your thoughts on this: I could be wrong here, but I would argue that there is actually no such thing as "indirect" intertextuality. I think the purpose of calling it either direct or indirect is really just to refer to the spectrum of severity with which the intertextuality is present. If we are to say that direct intertextuality is "on purpose", does that dictate that "indirect" intertextuality is "by accident"? I would say no. No matter the severity or degree of the reference, the reference is still there, meaning the producer of it still intended for it to be there. By that logic, I would say that splitting intertextuality into those two categories is redundant. What do you think??
Thanks for the interesting video! Very cool. I have to say I'm a little confused because you mention Who Run the World as an example of indirect reference, yet list the USS Callister episode of Black Mirror as direct reference. I haven't seen either of those videos in full, but based on your samples here, they look similar enough to their original texts (Mad Max and Star Trek, respectively) yet aren't an exact recreation, that they seem like they'd fit into the same category (direct or indirect). What exactly is the difference? And I need to find me that He-Man Dirty Dancing video. That's hysterical!!
in USS calister you are mean to think directly of the media product of star trek, however in who run the world you are only meant to think of the themes and ideas from mad max, One references the text one the themes of the text.
Would enjoy a discussion about whether the Star Wars crawl is indirect, because Lucas has said many times that SW was inspired by the Saturday serials that he saw in the theater, like Flash Gordon. It's pretty certainly intentional, but doesn't reference Flash Gordon...dos that make it indirect? 🤔
This feels like the bible tradition, we chinese have that sort of technique in our poetry reading a poem reference to another, it creats a sense of sublime creditability, for it is not done by "me" but by "other" , in the biblical sense is the biggest other "god", so it must be ttue
@@TheMediaInsider thanks mate I'm learning about cinema especially these themes and subliminal stuff. Your channel is a big help. Hoping to become an actor and eventually film maker over here in Pakistan. One request please make it more simplified and much more indepth varients of similar topic so third world peasents like us can understand easily.
My plan is to start doing RUclips shorts which literally present the ideas in less than a minute, so I’ll be doing a lot more of those coming up! Best of luck with your acting career
to put Plagiarism in different genre..it is intertextuality, as i perceive it. In other words, put a mood and tone, culture, race, presentations, time ans space in different context of its original. Actually, what is original according to postmodernist...lol
Yes, we know what it is….really, why do we need a new, made up word? No, really. At first, I thought this video was a really funny spoof….which it may still be 🙂
Better than my lecturers slides, thanks !
Glad to help - more videos coming weekly
Your videos are inspring and gives the core of information without fluness of buzzwords thanks
I always wanted write about that, but did not have a name for it 😆. I think the most influential intertextuality i have seen is the use of religous icons in advertising, politics and entertainment.
Yeah - LOTS of that in music videos too
I started to read Baudrillard, and had some familiarity with his overall concepts, but I felt that I needed a more 'soft' introduction to get me going and so this video did it for me. Very clear with a lot of visual examples. So that's a subscribe for me. Thanks!
Thank you for the nice video. It was very helpful!!
You're welcome!
As someone obsessed with prestige shows like mad men and succession Thankyou for showing me I’m not crazy and giving me a word to describe what I know I’m seeing that isn’t subtext or Easter eggs
Very clear and well done video! I'm just curious about something because I watched a different video, and it was a little unclear about how intertextuality works. You pointed out how Star Wars brought back those cantina characters for a sequel, and that is a direct intertextual link. Would the new Star Wars movies bringing back the Millenium Falcon be considered intertextuality or just following up with something in their canon? Basically: Does intertextuality apply to any reference to another piece of media, including bringing back characters from previous films, or is it confined specifically to less commonplace references?
Omg this video unbelievably helped SO MUCH for my uni assessment. Thank you!!
I'd like your thoughts on this: I could be wrong here, but I would argue that there is actually no such thing as "indirect" intertextuality. I think the purpose of calling it either direct or indirect is really just to refer to the spectrum of severity with which the intertextuality is present. If we are to say that direct intertextuality is "on purpose", does that dictate that "indirect" intertextuality is "by accident"? I would say no. No matter the severity or degree of the reference, the reference is still there, meaning the producer of it still intended for it to be there. By that logic, I would say that splitting intertextuality into those two categories is redundant. What do you think??
Reminds me of an essay I read about "Anatomy of Influence" by Harold Bloom.
Thanks for the interesting video! Very cool. I have to say I'm a little confused because you mention Who Run the World as an example of indirect reference, yet list the USS Callister episode of Black Mirror as direct reference. I haven't seen either of those videos in full, but based on your samples here, they look similar enough to their original texts (Mad Max and Star Trek, respectively) yet aren't an exact recreation, that they seem like they'd fit into the same category (direct or indirect). What exactly is the difference?
And I need to find me that He-Man Dirty Dancing video. That's hysterical!!
in USS calister you are mean to think directly of the media product of star trek, however in who run the world you are only meant to think of the themes and ideas from mad max,
One references the text one the themes of the text.
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thanks a lot for the explanation !!!
Would enjoy a discussion about whether the Star Wars crawl is indirect, because Lucas has said many times that SW was inspired by the Saturday serials that he saw in the theater, like Flash Gordon. It's pretty certainly intentional, but doesn't reference Flash Gordon...dos that make it indirect? 🤔
love these video! so useful
Thanks! I’m trying to put one up weekly now
Lovely video
Thanks 🤗
Can you make a video about how to use Intertextuality when writing an analysis please
you literally just saved me
Glad to hear it
thank you for your nice video it was helpful for my activity 😊
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very helpful more than my lectures slides
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Nice video!
Thanks, buddy!
This feels like the bible tradition, we chinese have that sort of technique in our poetry reading a poem reference to another, it creats a sense of sublime creditability, for it is not done by "me" but by "other" , in the biblical sense is the biggest other "god", so it must be ttue
Thankyou Mate
Awesome vid
Fast forward to 2024 and Generative AI has become the penultimate distillation of indirect intertextuality.
I’ve literally thought about doing a follow-up video about exactly that!
@@TheMediaInsider Well I can guarantee you one viewer.
Are indirect references always accidental?
Is homage the same thing???
Kind of, that’s a very explicit form of intertextuality where respect is being paid
@@TheMediaInsider thanks mate I'm learning about cinema especially these themes and subliminal stuff. Your channel is a big help. Hoping to become an actor and eventually film maker over here in Pakistan. One request please make it more simplified and much more indepth varients of similar topic so third world peasents like us can understand easily.
My plan is to start doing RUclips shorts which literally present the ideas in less than a minute, so I’ll be doing a lot more of those coming up! Best of luck with your acting career
@@TheMediaInsider 👍
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Sir, you're Albert Einstein of media and gender studies. Kudos
I'll absolutely take that! Thank you.
Gordon Freeman from Half Life!
I’ll take that!
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to put Plagiarism in different genre..it is intertextuality, as i perceive it. In other words, put a mood and tone, culture, race, presentations, time ans space in different context of its original. Actually, what is original according to postmodernist...lol
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I would take his class.
Always welcome
Smells like a ten dollar word for possible copyright infringement.
Fair point
Yes, we know what it is….really, why do we need a new, made up word? No, really. At first, I thought this video was a really funny spoof….which it may still be 🙂