Two Welsford designed boats (Navigator and Pathfinder) on a Chequamegon Bay Outing
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- Опубликовано: 3 сен 2022
- Join me for a fall sail on Lakes Superiors Chequamegon Bay in a couple of John Welsford-designed boats. My Navigator (Friedlor) and a friend's Pathfinder (Oh Boy, Oh Boy). On this sail, we started out at "2nd Landing" on the east side of the bay and sailed up along the Kakagon and Sand Cut Sloughs to the south side of Long Island.
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Nice boats, and looks like a great day.
Yep I need to get back out there this summer. Thanks for watching!
Nice boats and nice sail in a neat looking area.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the ride along.
Nice video. Have bought a home in Duluth. Looking forward to doing some sailing in the Lake. Presently finishing up a Welsford Saturday Night Special down here in Texas.
Thank you so much for sharing this adventure on the great "Freshwater" Ocean! Just great ~. from New Hampshire.
Your welcome Steven! It's currently 59° foggy with a cool wind... Waiting for one of those blue sky days again :-)
Thanks for sharing. Looks like a great day. I love the lines of both of those Welsford boats.
You're welcome! Yep....those lines are certainly part of the attraction!
Thank you for sharing this. It was so satisfying...
Valiant 40 is my dream boat. Thanks for including it. I'm about to start my Navigator build...
Yep..the valiant is a fabulous boat. My friend had heart surgery this summer and we weren't able to get out this season. Hoping for a trip or two next year, between my own adventures.
I enjoyed your talk and your video. And your two dinghies sailing along.. what a great life.
Glad you enjoyed it Ross....I do ramble on : ) It's going to be about -23C here tomorrow so watching others sailing has to get me through the next few months!!
Well done reading the weather like you did. It looked fabulous in the bay and quite rough on the other side of the island. Thanks for making the video.
You're welcome! Our initial plan for the day had been to sail on the Lake Proper (Little Sand Bay) on the Northwest side of the Apostle islands. A beautiful area we've sailed before but it would have been a little much after several days of high winds.
Thank you for that sail-along, great watch
Thanks Mark. Glad you enjoyed!
love it. many thanks. ⚓👍
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂 Another 3 months before ice out and a chance to get back on the water!
Thanks Tim, they are excellent specimens of excellent designs, you had an excellent sail and that's an excellent video. Thanks for taking the trouble to shoot, edit and share.
Thanks for the kind words Tony 🙂
Beautiful John Wesford boats. Well done sailing in the chop.
Thanks Scott - Can't wait for spring and time back on the water!
Great video !!! That was a perfect sail day. I have never heard of these boats before......Glad that you had them side by side so I can get a good look at the differences. The web site that has the plans do not have any decent photos of the boat....so it is hard to see what the finished product will look like. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for your kind words! If you're looking to build at some point, John Welsford Facebook page is a great place to connect with builders and owners of his boats...and they're a generous lot who will gladly answer any questions you might have. They're great boats ; )
Nice !!
So glad you enjoyed
Nice stuff, Tim! A beautiful day and two beautiful boats. What more could a sailor man ask for? P.S. I noticed the name of your boat, "Friedlor." Could you tell me about that?
Thanks Chris...in answer to your first question..not much!...The name is a remembrance to my parents! When my father passed, we were going through his papers and came across an ad for the German Shorthair pups they were selling (They had our dog bred when I was quiet young and sold the pups). The ad was in a national dog magazine and for it they created a fake kennel name, taking their own names (Fred and Lorraine) and mashing them together to create "Friedlor Kennels" : )
@@timingersoll1257 That’s a great story! Thanks!
Love these designs. How much swell can you sail in - and still be comfortable? I’m asking bcz I want this style of trailer-sailor, but sail in the Pacific ocean; aka much larger swells.
Hi Christopher, thanks for asking though I'm not sure I'm the best to answer your question as I mostly sail in inland waters or fairly protected parts of Lake Superior. I'd suggest you touch base with Joel Bergen who's out in the Seattle area. I'm sure he'd be in a better position and happy to address your question. He's got a RUclips site and is active on a number of Facebook groups.
Nice video! Just curious… how much boat building experience did you have before building your Welsford boat, and how long did it take to build? Thanks!
I had previously built a cedar strip canoe, something I'd helped my dad with 30 years before that : ) That and a couple of other small woodworking projects and a general comfort with tools, having worked on house and maintenance projects (on a homeowner level). It took me 3 1/2 to complete the build, not because it needs to take that long, but simply because I was buying materials $100 at a time and lacked a heated garage to work in during the winter months. I enjoyed the small projects...which is a good way to think about it...it's just a bunch of fairly straightforward smaller projects that eventually come together as a beautiful functional boat : ) I've been sailing with it for 13 years now, having enjoyed the build and the days on the water!
@@timingersoll1257 Well looks like you did a great job with the build, and it looks like a blast to sail. That's cool that your buddy has 40 foot sailboat as well! I've been sailing for about six years in small keelboats, mostly the Catalina 22. I'd like to move up to bigger boats and take the ASA 103 coastal cruising course, but I also want to build and sail a dinghy sailboat like your Welsford boat. I think it would be great to sail both dinghies and keelboats. What seems so cool about dinghy sailing is that you can trailer to some ideal locations, which is a versatility that isn't quite as accessible with bigger boats. Thanks very much for your reply!
Thank you so much Tim! do you know what trailer Bill is using? looking for one for the pathfinder I am building
Hi Aaron. I'll check with Bill and see what he says...can't remember off the top of my head. Are you in the Midwest or elsewhere? If you're nearby, you'll have to join us for some outings when your build is done!
Well...not much help..Bill said his trailer is "a very old thing I got from a guy who had to scrap a fishing boat". No manufacture name on it.
@@timingersoll1257 i am in Nova Scotia actually, tho the lakes would be great to sail!
Well that would be a bit of a haul : ) Are you able to work on the boat through the winter? How's progress? I had a 3 1/2 year build! : )
Hi there. I just saw your channel and thought that you are someone experienced with sailing. I have a double-ender wooden fishing boat which is 5m long. Planning to put a mast and sail on it. It is going to be sloop or cutter and I don't know if 'lateen rig' better than 'bermuda rig' while going upwind. Could you help?
Hi! I guess I would call myself an experienced sailor, but sorry to say, I can't call myself a designer and don't feel all that qualified to answer your question. With that said, my experience would suggest a bermuda rig generally sails closer to the wind.
@@timingersoll1257 Thank you for your honest answer. I changed my mind and I am thinking of building a gaff rig(most likely) or a bermuda rig. Could you share your ideas about gaff rig? I live in Black Sea cost of Turkey and there are no people left here with the knowledge in sails. Thank you.
@@celil111 Have you discovered the Duckworks Facebook site? (facebook.com/groups/duckworks).
There're are a ton of knowledgable folks there, many with more design experience then I. I have sailed a gaff rig 1x and it seemed like a lot of lines to deal with (a Suncat). I didn't sail enough to determine the benefits. I like my Standing Lug rig for it's simplicity and and the short spars, which make it easy to store in the boat and transport. The shorter mast also makes it easier for me to step alone.
It seems gaff rigs have have taller masts in general than a lug rigged boat, and bermuda masts are definetely longer. Gaff, and any kind of lug rig (standing lug, or balanced lug) have a lower center of effort, so they tend to create less heeling. This results in (in my opinion) a safer boat, particularly for boats with limited ballast and unwieghted keel. Hope that's helpful. Again, I'd pop over to the Duckworks group and see what the hive mind there has to offer, though feel free to ask me and I'll give you my, "for what it's worth" answer! : ) Best of luck..sounds like a fun project.
@@timingersoll1257 Thank you again, I will have a look to the site and keep searching. That was very helpful!