@NateWantsFriends Poor Matt Smith maybe he needs to change his agent cos he gets to jump on hit franchises but the idea is way better than the execution in the end.
I think a new series set 20 years in the future from the point SCC ended could work better than a movie. Bring back Thomas Dekker so it retains it's universe, leave Sarah Conner in the past but structure it so it's its own seperate show.
@@MashedUpCultPopular the best thing we can hope at this point for is an animated continuation, though like Full Fat said, a comic book is more realistic
Salvation definitely had it's problems, but for me it still felt like the most unique and forward thinking of the franchise (post T2). Wish we'd have gotten to see what the remaining films in that trilogy could have been. Ah well.
Jonathan Mostow's take on T3 felt faithful, balancing CGI with practical effects McG's take on Salvation felt solid, and actually tried to bring something new to the franchise Alan Taylor's take in Genesys felt cheap, as if he was doing only what he was paid to do And Tim Miller's take on Dark Fate had potential. At least he wasn't being a director for hire like Taylir. The effects felt more organic, but because of the bad script, Miller wasn't able to reach its full potential
The closed loop "canon" timeline is: The Terminator T2: Assembly Line - teaser trailer T2: Judgement Day - directors cut Terminator 3D: Battle Across Time Terminator: Resistance Anything outside of this loop is considered an alternate timeline.
I've always wondered how the loop started in the first place, if Ryle had to be in the past for John to exist, then who was the "original" resistance leader prior to the loop who sent Kyle back? Was it Sarah herself, or did John have a different father?
@@BuryTheLight-tds Before the loop started Johns original father was the guy on the answering machine who cancelled his date with Sarah in the first Terminator.
31:25 I 100% Agree with this: Genysis *could* have implied it continues sometime after Salvation. John & Kyle are older, look different and now everybody has upgraded to plasma guns. It's plausable. Buuuuut, annoyingly, the *one* detail that stops Genysis from being the final installment of the meddled timeline we've been following since T1, is the fact they retconned Kyle meeting John, that was finally shown in Salvation. Instead of simply recreating teenage Kyle going up an elevator shaft and meeting John, without the need for additional context, it's reestablished, Kyle meets John at a far younger age, with the war being far more technologically advanced and under different circumstances. It's like Genysis Rebooted the timeline...Before sending Reese back to the Rebooted timeline. They could've had their cake and eaten it to, had us watch T1-Salvation and waved the declining story goodbye as we reset. Instead it reset...Then reset again ha!
@@StarWarsStory I kinda wish they had not shown them meeting and said judgment day was 2004 and then it would have been perfectly in line with the others! And tbh it would have been cool if this was Christian Bale even though I really like the Jason Clarke version
The Terminator (1984): CLASSIC Terminator 2 Judgment Day (1991): MASTERPIECE Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003): Good but not great. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2008): Pretty good, too bad it didn't last. Terminator Salvation (2009): Could have been better, and the Schwarzenegger.CGI was just terrible. Terminator Genisys (2015): Awful Terminator: Dark Fate (2019): Rubbish and it definitely pissed off a lot of fans. Terminator Zero (2024): An amazing return for this once struggling franchise.
Days of Future Past isn't a rip-off. It was based on a popular X-Men comic book storyline before Terminator even came out. And they actually did the bus flip in Genisys for real. The landing was CGI, but the flip was real.
I didn’t say it was a rip off, just that the production were clearly inspired by the success of Star Trek and how it handled reboots. Before that everyone did it Nolan style where it was a hard reset with no connection to the previous material.
I don't see it. Despite his background, the CGI in his films is honestly nothing special. Neill Blomkamp and Gareth Edwards are honestly much better with VFX, and those guys aren't even anything special compared to the real giants of CGI (Spielberg, Cameron, Fincher, Villeneuve, Favreau etc).
@@Zombiesnyder13 I have not, actually. I didn't even know he was involved with that, to be honest. After doing some light research, though, Miller himself didn't even seem to direct much of the show, so I fail to see how he can be attributed much for the show's visual polish (especially when you look at how mediocre the effects are in his films).
@@Whoa802 Miller created LDR, and the upcoming Secret Level He directed a few episodes, but the show as a whole happened because of him. A lot of episodes were made by the VFX studio he built, and he knows how the VFX industry works, so much that the episodes were directed by VFX artists. Sonic The Hedgehog movies for instance, was directed by his friend Jeff Fowler, who wrote one of the LDR episodes In Dark Fate, however, the movie had as much practical effects as it had CGI, so it was a challenge for him to get every VFX shot right. But if he works on something that is more CGI-driven, like a live-action TMNT, then he'll be more in his element
I suggest reading the books by s.m Stirling, they continue on from the end of t2 and explain how skynet was still able to be built even after miles died, his progeams wiped and the tech from the future destroyed, how the Terminator knew where to find John when he killed him as a kid, why jhone and sarah had leave each other before the events of t3 and also how she died, it also explains more in detail about the half human half machine hybrids like the guy from salvations, why Arnold or at least the character that he played was picked as the face of the machines, and also it explains the whole skynet suddenly being rebraded as genasis or whatever it is in dark fate I think theres 3 or 4 books in the series and they are well worth reading as they add so much to the overall story and fill in a lot of the missing unexplained gaps/events from the movie's
You should definitely go play terminator resistance! It actually is the perfect terminator sequel. It’s set during the war, but it ties in directly to characters from the first movie setting T1 up perfectly. Great story, ok gameplay. And it’s actually kinda scary.
I won’t lie Termination Zero made me believe the only issue the series had the entire time is their refusal to really let go the first two movies go for a few good months
Genisys should have stayed in the 80s. It should be Kyle vs. the Terminator with Sarah Connor siding against Kyle. And since we don’t know who programmed the Terminator, we don’t know if Kyle is in the wrong.
Someone else "likes" genisys. Finally😂 Easily my fav of the none Cameron ones as it takes some great stuff from 1 & 2, and doesn't ruin the canon like dark fate if it's consideresd as T5
*Not gonna lie, John Connor in Rise of the Machines looks like an older version of Malcolm from Malcolm in the Middle. Also Dark Fate was the only Terminator movie that I watched in it’s entirety simply because I thought the trailer looked cool.*
Jai Courtney has have a family member with connections in Hollywood of something. I legitimately will never understand how out of all of the amazing Actors in the Starz Spartacus Series,how he was the one they said "oh he's totally Hollywood material"
A lot of actors get pushed for a few years hard and then go away a bit. Same thing happened to Jason Clarke, it felt like he was everywhere about 2014 / 2015!
Just realised that Terminator Dark Fate didnt have to kill John to have this new AI as a threat. Considering that this is the same timeline as T2 the rise of a new AI instead of Skynet shows that that time loop is gone and John can live a normal life. This movie could have given us a new take on John Connor or heck make it so that due to the events of the Dark Fate movie(for a sequel hook) he survives because he would have died without Legion time travel shenanigans so Legion now has to worry about both John Connor and Dani as existential threats.
Yeah killing him after Skynet is stopped feels redundant. I would watch a movie that’s about what Sarah does when he’s dead but Skynet still needs to be stopped
Dr. Silberman has the best arc and joke of the entire franchise--in T1 after hearing Reese out , he goes "I could make a career out of this guy!" In T2, Dr, Silberman HAS made his entire career off of Reese's story, with Sarah as his star patient and true believer in it, watching it unfold in front of his eyes is peak cinema. By the time Dr. Silberman shows up in T3, it's all played for laughs, and now we're in on the joke as HE's the one who's gone crazy.
@@jonathanfeldheim6554 In the Sarah Conner chronicles It only got worse for Dr. Silberman. In that timeline, Dr. Silberman’s psyche got absolutely destroyed upon realizing Sarah Conner was right. It came to the point he became a fanatic believer in judgment day and isolated himself far off in the woods (likely to avoid the blast zones). The guy became so superstitious he ended up killing an innocent hiker just because he thought the man was a terminator.
Honestly I just look at each movie/show after T2 as different timelines (other than 3 & salvation) and it makes the franchise more enjoyable. I genuinely like every terminator movie/show other than Genisys. Here’s how I’d rank them from worst to best (also added the very underrated Terminator: Resistance game): -Terminator Genisys (2.5/5) -Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series (2.5/5) -Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines (3/5) -Terminator Salvation Director’s Cut (3.5/5) -Terminator: Dark Fate (4/5) -Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (4/5) -Terminator: Resistance (4.5/5) -Terminator: Zero (4.5/5) -The Terminator (4.5/5) -T2: Judgement Day (5/5)
Appreciate the detailed breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Personally if I had my way I would have the story set after the fall of Skynet in 2029, and follow a new set of characters who are trying to forge a new way forward for both humans and machines alike. In such a story John Connor should be "a man behind the curtain" character like Nick furry or Albus Dumbledore.
7:33 Woah....that's him now?? He looks like a badass John Connor now. I guess he technically was perfect for the role as he(irl) actually aged into the look of resistance John Connor better than Edward Furlong....by a mile. Imagine if he bulked up and they gave him the scar
Hope s2 they announce at Netflix geeked or whatever. This and also cyberpunk edgerunners are examples of taking things and turning into that actually works. Rick and morty doesnt work,the suicide squad one animation wise great but overall mid. Scott pilgrim was great with the remix but overall it pissed off fans who wanted to see scott pilgrim like the original comic but anime panel to panel. I hope Terminator zero gets multiple seasons i know james Cameron said yet again he wants to do Terminator again but if he does hes gotta change it up.
Funfact about how much Dark Fate bombed: There is a pretty good Terminator RTS that came out this year called "Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance" (It's not really related to the movie outside of having Legion instead of SkyNet.) The reason they did this is because apparently (devs are pretty open about this on their discord) it was actually cheaper to license Dark Fate's continuity for a video game instead of "mainline" Terminator and it also means they had less IP holder oversight.
I've got a real soft spot for T3, I saw it a whopping 5 times in the cinema. I was 2 when T2 came out, so T3 was the first one I was old enough to see in the cinema. Sure, its not on the same level as the first 2, but there is a lot of fun to be had, and I think the ending is great. Been a while since I've seen it though.
After Terminator 2 we should’ve gotten a trilogy showing the future war. I would love to get a whole movie or 3 movies about the first 5 minutes of Terminator Genysis and display John Connor as the hero we all know him as on par with Optimus Prime and Cesear: 1. Terminator Rise of the Machines-Kyle Reese and John Connor meet and teaches John how to fight. The tone would be very depressing and a sense of dread and sadness 2. Terminator Redemption- Show how John and Kyle are brothers in the war and have a few Sarah Conner mentions(the picture would be perfect) Kyle goes back in time so does a T800. Basically the beginning of Terminator Genysis 3. Terminator Salvation- we see how advanced the machines become since a T800 was left in the 80s and we see the resistance capture a T800 to send in the 90s and the franchise can end since T2 stopped the war
Terminator Ranking: Terminator 2 The Terminator Salvation Dark Fate Rise of the Machines Genisys There’s a MASSIVE gap after The Terminator. Salvation has the most redeeming features. Genisys is just the most heinous thing.
I finally watched the 1st 2 Terminator movies on prime and RUclips and they are both amazing. I refused to believe that there were any continuations because they all ruined the ending of Judgement Day. Then I heard good things about the new series and can't wait to check it out
I love the terminator franchise for how it’s action, time-travel, and amazing use of both practical effects and cgi. Arnie is a joy to watch even in some of the more mediocre movies my ranking is as follows: 1) the terminator 2) terminator 2: judgement day 3) terminator 3: rise of the machines (has solid action, arnie’s still good as usual, and has a ballsy ending that I respect.) 4) terminator genisys (the first act is great, arnie is again the best and the fight between the good and bad t-800 was a highlight for me.) 5) terminator salvation (it’s ok overall, bale is ok as John, Marcus is fun but all over the place as a lead, Anton is great as a younger Kyle.) 6) terminator: dark fate (I don’t like this movie at all.)
In terms of Sequels to Judgement day I recommend reading CYBERNETIC DAWN. It also delves into the idea of Skynet returning but unlike the sequel films, it elaborates more as to why. Part of Sarah’s arc in the comic is realizing that humans might’ve sealed their own fate due to their constant need for control and war which is what leads to the development of Skynet. Here’s a link to the comic ruclips.net/video/XVD6y3DWDEM/видео.htmlsi=ncI6wLCLl6SSkriy
This is a franchise that I feel like should've ended already but I'm glad the new series bought the fans together.
Yeah, franchises have a shelf life and that’s okay. Too many things are being brought back constantly
@@FullFatVideos *Cough cough* Gladiator 2
@NateWantsFriends Poor Matt Smith maybe he needs to change his agent cos he gets to jump on hit franchises but the idea is way better than the execution in the end.
@@TheEverSoTalentedThat's unfortunately most movies nowadays, good ideas but poor execution
@@TheEverSoTalentedHe’s doing well in HOTD though
The Sarah Connor Chronicles is an amazing show. It ends on a cliffhanger, but the journey is totally worth it!
I’m actually watching it for the first time. (I already knew about the cliffhanger.) Still enjoyable even after this much time.
I think a new series set 20 years in the future from the point SCC ended could work better than a movie. Bring back Thomas Dekker so it retains it's universe, leave Sarah Conner in the past but structure it so it's its own seperate show.
@@MashedUpCultPopular the best thing we can hope at this point for is an animated continuation, though like Full Fat said, a comic book is more realistic
Great video! I really hope Terminator Zero gets the love and attention it deserves!
You and me both!
Haven't seen the new one but my favorite post-T2 entry has to be The Sarah Connor Chronicles
Yup
Salvation definitely had it's problems, but for me it still felt like the most unique and forward thinking of the franchise (post T2). Wish we'd have gotten to see what the remaining films in that trilogy could have been. Ah well.
It would have been cool for Terminator to have gotten both its sequel and prequel trilogy in the same go, all because of time travel
It would have been cool for Terminator to have gotten both its sequel and prequel trilogy in the same go, all because of time travel
Jonathan Mostow's take on T3 felt faithful, balancing CGI with practical effects
McG's take on Salvation felt solid, and actually tried to bring something new to the franchise
Alan Taylor's take in Genesys felt cheap, as if he was doing only what he was paid to do
And Tim Miller's take on Dark Fate had potential. At least he wasn't being a director for hire like Taylir. The effects felt more organic, but because of the bad script, Miller wasn't able to reach its full potential
The closed loop "canon" timeline is:
The Terminator
T2: Assembly Line - teaser trailer
T2: Judgement Day - directors cut
Terminator 3D: Battle Across Time
Terminator: Resistance
Anything outside of this loop is considered an alternate timeline.
I've always wondered how the loop started in the first place, if Ryle had to be in the past for John to exist, then who was the "original" resistance leader prior to the loop who sent Kyle back? Was it Sarah herself, or did John have a different father?
@@BuryTheLight-tds
Before the loop started Johns original father was the guy on the answering machine who cancelled his date with Sarah in the first Terminator.
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31:25 I 100% Agree with this:
Genysis *could* have implied it continues sometime after Salvation. John & Kyle are older, look different and now everybody has upgraded to plasma guns. It's plausable. Buuuuut, annoyingly, the *one* detail that stops Genysis from being the final installment of the meddled timeline we've been following since T1, is the fact they retconned Kyle meeting John, that was finally shown in Salvation. Instead of simply recreating teenage Kyle going up an elevator shaft and meeting John, without the need for additional context, it's reestablished, Kyle meets John at a far younger age, with the war being far more technologically advanced and under different circumstances. It's like Genysis Rebooted the timeline...Before sending Reese back to the Rebooted timeline. They could've had their cake and eaten it to, had us watch T1-Salvation and waved the declining story goodbye as we reset. Instead it reset...Then reset again ha!
@@StarWarsStory I kinda wish they had not shown them meeting and said judgment day was 2004 and then it would have been perfectly in line with the others! And tbh it would have been cool if this was Christian Bale even though I really like the Jason Clarke version
T2 is fantastic. But if there can be only one. I'd still prefer the first one. Even though it's a bit 80's and obviously on a budget.
100% I'd also watch any other sequel post T2 over Dark Fate. The others at least fun. Dark fate is an insult
I agree. The fight scenes are cool and that’s it. I can have fun with all the others or at least get into the ideas if not the execution of said ideas
I love how you call him Uncle Bob
I think that’s his unofficial designation, and then the Genisys one is Pops. Not sure if the T1 and T3 Terminators have any nicknames
Ever since I heard Geekvolution pronounce Terminator Genisys as “Gen-Eye-Sees” that’s the only way I pronounce that title.
I pronounce it Terminator Jenny Smith
@@SmashBrosAssembleI believe that’s the correct way to say it yeah
The Terminator Franchise and its plots feel like our love interest in The Time Machine, no matter how many times we go back, it always ends horribly 😂
The Terminator (1984): CLASSIC
Terminator 2 Judgment Day (1991): MASTERPIECE
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003): Good but not great.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2008): Pretty good, too bad it didn't last.
Terminator Salvation (2009): Could have been better, and the Schwarzenegger.CGI was just terrible.
Terminator Genisys (2015): Awful
Terminator: Dark Fate (2019): Rubbish and it definitely pissed off a lot of fans.
Terminator Zero (2024): An amazing return for this once struggling franchise.
Days of Future Past isn't a rip-off. It was based on a popular X-Men comic book storyline before Terminator even came out.
And they actually did the bus flip in Genisys for real. The landing was CGI, but the flip was real.
I didn’t say it was a rip off, just that the production were clearly inspired by the success of Star Trek and how it handled reboots. Before that everyone did it Nolan style where it was a hard reset with no connection to the previous material.
Tim Miller should direct the next live-action TMNT reboot
He needs to work on something more CGI-driven because he understands CGI like none other
John Likens
I don't see it. Despite his background, the CGI in his films is honestly nothing special. Neill Blomkamp and Gareth Edwards are honestly much better with VFX, and those guys aren't even anything special compared to the real giants of CGI (Spielberg, Cameron, Fincher, Villeneuve, Favreau etc).
@@Whoa802 have you seen Love, Death and Robots?
@@Zombiesnyder13 I have not, actually. I didn't even know he was involved with that, to be honest. After doing some light research, though, Miller himself didn't even seem to direct much of the show, so I fail to see how he can be attributed much for the show's visual polish (especially when you look at how mediocre the effects are in his films).
@@Whoa802 Miller created LDR, and the upcoming Secret Level
He directed a few episodes, but the show as a whole happened because of him. A lot of episodes were made by the VFX studio he built, and he knows how the VFX industry works, so much that the episodes were directed by VFX artists.
Sonic The Hedgehog movies for instance, was directed by his friend Jeff Fowler, who wrote one of the LDR episodes
In Dark Fate, however, the movie had as much practical effects as it had CGI, so it was a challenge for him to get every VFX shot right.
But if he works on something that is more CGI-driven, like a live-action TMNT, then he'll be more in his element
I suggest reading the books by s.m Stirling, they continue on from the end of t2 and explain how skynet was still able to be built even after miles died, his progeams wiped and the tech from the future destroyed, how the Terminator knew where to find John when he killed him as a kid, why jhone and sarah had leave each other before the events of t3 and also how she died, it also explains more in detail about the half human half machine hybrids like the guy from salvations, why Arnold or at least the character that he played was picked as the face of the machines, and also it explains the whole skynet suddenly being rebraded as genasis or whatever it is in dark fate
I think theres 3 or 4 books in the series and they are well worth reading as they add so much to the overall story and fill in a lot of the missing unexplained gaps/events from the movie's
Watched this early on the Patreon, would recommend it to folk that enjoy full fat content!
@@kieranleehamilton appreciate it brother!
You should definitely go play terminator resistance! It actually is the perfect terminator sequel. It’s set during the war, but it ties in directly to characters from the first movie setting T1 up perfectly. Great story, ok gameplay. And it’s actually kinda scary.
The edits of Christian Bales rants are excellent 😂😂
Haha yesss
I won’t lie Termination Zero made me believe the only issue the series had the entire time is their refusal to really let go the first two movies go for a few good months
I love the Connors and the T 800 but it is time
@@FullFatVideos same I love them with as much love as I can give but we have to move on Zero definitely showed us that I feel
Genisys should have stayed in the 80s. It should be Kyle vs. the Terminator with Sarah Connor siding against Kyle. And since we don’t know who programmed the Terminator, we don’t know if Kyle is in the wrong.
Someone else "likes" genisys. Finally😂 Easily my fav of the none Cameron ones as it takes some great stuff from 1 & 2, and doesn't ruin the canon like dark fate if it's consideresd as T5
Terminator Zero is really good!
It is!
*Not gonna lie, John Connor in Rise of the Machines looks like an older version of Malcolm from Malcolm in the Middle. Also Dark Fate was the only Terminator movie that I watched in it’s entirety simply because I thought the trailer looked cool.*
Great video.
I would request videos about the Universal Soldier franchise or the Robocop franchise. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Jai Courtney has have a family member with connections in Hollywood of something.
I legitimately will never understand how out of all of the amazing Actors in the Starz Spartacus Series,how he was the one they said "oh he's totally Hollywood material"
A lot of actors get pushed for a few years hard and then go away a bit. Same thing happened to Jason Clarke, it felt like he was everywhere about 2014 / 2015!
Just realised that Terminator Dark Fate didnt have to kill John to have this new AI as a threat. Considering that this is the same timeline as T2 the rise of a new AI instead of Skynet shows that that time loop is gone and John can live a normal life. This movie could have given us a new take on John Connor or heck make it so that due to the events of the Dark Fate movie(for a sequel hook) he survives because he would have died without Legion time travel shenanigans so Legion now has to worry about both John Connor and Dani as existential threats.
Yeah killing him after Skynet is stopped feels redundant. I would watch a movie that’s about what Sarah does when he’s dead but Skynet still needs to be stopped
Dr. Silberman has the best arc and joke of the entire franchise--in T1 after hearing Reese out , he goes "I could make a career out of this guy!" In T2, Dr, Silberman HAS made his entire career off of Reese's story, with Sarah as his star patient and true believer in it, watching it unfold in front of his eyes is peak cinema. By the time Dr. Silberman shows up in T3, it's all played for laughs, and now we're in on the joke as HE's the one who's gone crazy.
@@jonathanfeldheim6554 In the Sarah Conner chronicles It only got worse for Dr. Silberman. In that timeline, Dr. Silberman’s psyche got absolutely destroyed upon realizing Sarah Conner was right. It came to the point he became a fanatic believer in judgment day and isolated himself far off in the woods (likely to avoid the blast zones). The guy became so superstitious he ended up killing an innocent hiker just because he thought the man was a terminator.
Honestly I just look at each movie/show after T2 as different timelines (other than 3 & salvation) and it makes the franchise more enjoyable. I genuinely like every terminator movie/show other than Genisys.
Here’s how I’d rank them from worst to best (also added the very underrated Terminator: Resistance game):
-Terminator Genisys (2.5/5)
-Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series (2.5/5)
-Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines (3/5)
-Terminator Salvation Director’s Cut (3.5/5)
-Terminator: Dark Fate (4/5)
-Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (4/5)
-Terminator: Resistance (4.5/5)
-Terminator: Zero (4.5/5)
-The Terminator (4.5/5)
-T2: Judgement Day (5/5)
Actually, they're ALL different timelines.
TSCC is pretty great. Still waiting on the 3rd season fox, or at least a nice movie ending. Salvation is pretty good to.
Terminator Zero (2024) is EASILY better than everything that was made after T2 which isn't saying much.
Appreciate the detailed breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
YES SOME TERMINATOR ZERO LOVE!!!
It’s great!
Personally if I had my way I would have the story set after the fall of Skynet in 2029, and follow a new set of characters who are trying to forge a new way forward for both humans and machines alike. In such a story John Connor should be "a man behind the curtain" character like Nick furry or Albus Dumbledore.
I’ve always wanted it to go past the future war and try a Star Trek optimism approach. That could be really cool
I think the t-x just threw kate in order to intimidate her and get the info about john, I've heard the bus flip was practical
It’s still a bit flimsy but it’s a movie it’s cool. But if she hadn’t have thrown her the t 800 could not have saved Kate
7:33
Woah....that's him now?? He looks like a badass John Connor now. I guess he technically was perfect for the role as he(irl) actually aged into the look of resistance John Connor better than Edward Furlong....by a mile. Imagine if he bulked up and they gave him the scar
@@thefearofg0ds758 yeah it’s actually insane how perfect he is for John now. He looks better than how they made him up in the future segment of T3
#TimMiller4TMNT
Repeat after me:
JOHN LIKENS
JOHN LIKENS
JOHN LIKENS
Hope s2 they announce at Netflix geeked or whatever. This and also cyberpunk edgerunners are examples of taking things and turning into that actually works. Rick and morty doesnt work,the suicide squad one animation wise great but overall mid. Scott pilgrim was great with the remix but overall it pissed off fans who wanted to see scott pilgrim like the original comic but anime panel to panel. I hope Terminator zero gets multiple seasons i know james Cameron said yet again he wants to do Terminator again but if he does hes gotta change it up.
Funfact about how much Dark Fate bombed:
There is a pretty good Terminator RTS that came out this year called "Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance" (It's not really related to the movie outside of having Legion instead of SkyNet.)
The reason they did this is because apparently (devs are pretty open about this on their discord) it was actually cheaper to license Dark Fate's continuity for a video game instead of "mainline" Terminator and it also means they had less IP holder oversight.
I've got a real soft spot for T3, I saw it a whopping 5 times in the cinema. I was 2 when T2 came out, so T3 was the first one I was old enough to see in the cinema. Sure, its not on the same level as the first 2, but there is a lot of fun to be had, and I think the ending is great. Been a while since I've seen it though.
Oh yeah and as you say the Dr SIlverman cameo is great, one of the funniest scenes in the entire franchise.
Will you be heartbroken if the prophet ends up being Sarah Connor?
No as long as it’s done well!
Did...did you just suggest Days of Future Past ripped off the Star Trek reboot?
Otherwise enjoyed the video but WTF?
After Terminator 2 we should’ve gotten a trilogy showing the future war. I would love to get a whole movie or 3 movies about the first 5 minutes of Terminator Genysis and display John Connor as the hero we all know him as on par with Optimus Prime and Cesear:
1. Terminator Rise of the Machines-Kyle Reese and John Connor meet and teaches John how to fight. The tone would be very depressing and a sense of dread and sadness
2. Terminator Redemption- Show how John and Kyle are brothers in the war and have a few Sarah Conner mentions(the picture would be perfect) Kyle goes back in time so does a T800. Basically the beginning of Terminator Genysis
3. Terminator Salvation- we see how advanced the machines become since a T800 was left in the 80s and we see the resistance capture a T800 to send in the 90s and the franchise can end since T2 stopped the war
Terminator Ranking:
Terminator 2
The Terminator
Salvation
Dark Fate
Rise of the Machines
Genisys
There’s a MASSIVE gap after The Terminator. Salvation has the most redeeming features. Genisys is just the most heinous thing.
I'll take Rise of the Machines over Dark Fate.
But yeah, Salvation is half great. Then goes stupid unfortunately.
I finally watched the 1st 2 Terminator movies on prime and RUclips and they are both amazing. I refused to believe that there were any continuations because they all ruined the ending of Judgement Day. Then I heard good things about the new series and can't wait to check it out
T3 should have been set in and looked visually like the future scenes from T1 and T2.
I love the terminator franchise for how it’s action, time-travel, and amazing use of both practical effects and cgi. Arnie is a joy to watch even in some of the more mediocre movies my ranking is as follows:
1) the terminator
2) terminator 2: judgement day
3) terminator 3: rise of the machines (has solid action, arnie’s still good as usual, and has a ballsy ending that I respect.)
4) terminator genisys (the first act is great, arnie is again the best and the fight between the good and bad t-800 was a highlight for me.)
5) terminator salvation (it’s ok overall, bale is ok as John, Marcus is fun but all over the place as a lead, Anton is great as a younger Kyle.)
6) terminator: dark fate (I don’t like this movie at all.)
Terminator just doesn’t work as a franchise, because anything after T2 has to essentially make its ending completely pointless for it to have a sequel
Yeah absolutely. You can’t just have a terminator rock up in a random time and go, you have to explain away everything to even start
Salvation is my 3rd favourite then Rise, then the 1984 part of Genesis. After that I don't care
In terms of Sequels to Judgement day I recommend reading CYBERNETIC DAWN. It also delves into the idea of Skynet returning but unlike the sequel films, it elaborates more as to why. Part of Sarah’s arc in the comic is realizing that humans might’ve sealed their own fate due to their constant need for control and war which is what leads to the development of Skynet. Here’s a link to the comic
ruclips.net/video/XVD6y3DWDEM/видео.htmlsi=ncI6wLCLl6SSkriy
That sounds good!!!!