@@lesegogaebeeyn4005remember many so called Indians came from what is now Africa. Melanated to the core. Of course I am not talking about culture, identity or perceptions.
Exactly as a black woman in South Africa I would've been been shocked & pissed off if she said she was black. Because if she's black then what am I? We sure don't look the same. In African countries being black means being monoracially black. The one drop rule is not a thing here.
@@RayOfLetsatsi in some part of Africa they say mixed and mixed people are still part of the family and the ethnic group... Remember also the 60 shades of Black. Good luck cleaning up the White man mess
@@RayOfLetsatsi in some parts of Africa they say mixed and mixed people are still part of the family and the ethnic group. Remember the 60 shades of black. Good luck cleaning up the White man racial mess. Side note : while melanated people are being devided, Caucasians are growing White only cities in your part of Africa.
Why do Americans feel like the world revolves around them? she calls herself coloured because that's the term she is in South Africa (it's their term for mixed people) and they were also victims of Apartheid too. This doesn't mean she's "denying" her blackness at all, she's just letting y'all know she ain't 100% black neither. Not every country has had the One Drop Rule😂😂😂
Yea , I was frowning while watching the whole video … I rly don’t get how is this a big deal 💀 those Americans rly be thinking the world revolves around them
Completely agree. Why I never made many American friends. I’m from Spain. Here people consider themselves white, but also a description. In US you will see a blue eyed blonde hair pale girl and she gets offended when she is labeled as white, here its the opposite. Among many many other things. My Syrian friend is white and considers her self white, its a description. Culturally Levante Arab, and ethnically/religiously Assyrian.
@@Moonlight40471new management. She had already been out for like 4 years and had 2 hits and was only kinda popular in SA/Africa. New management marketed her hard on TikTok
@@oggwop6724I’m a black man from the Caribbean, every interaction I’ve had with a person from the US always leads to them asking about my “race” and ethnicity I find it weird tbh doesn’t matter the context
What? No one said she owes him anything. She said no very politely and he backed away politely. He just got clowned on for getting rejected. I don’t know what you’re on about.
As a black American woman, I don’t understand why black people are mad at Tyla about her race. She LITERALLY came from a completely different country where “colored” is actually a RACIAL category. Colored there means “mixed” or “biracial” to us. Not all melanated people are black Americans like me, where my family has been in the U.S. since the late 1600s. And that’s okay. Just like two black men, one from Nigeria and one from Jamaica, are not the same, and they’ll tell you that. Two men from Asia, one from Japan and the other from Thailand, they are not the same. Just because you speak Spanish doesn’t mean you’re Mexican. There are far more Spanish speaking countries than Mexico. In other words, Just because a lot of us have similarities doesn’t mean we are the same and that is okay to recognize. If it’s not distinguishable, cultures and people groups as we know it will cease to exist. No one will have a culture or identity that sets them apart from others. Tyla is a colored woman by her standards of where she comes from. I hold no hatred towards her for that🤷🏾♀️
@@bnwo But they are black tho, can we not accept the reality that you can be more than one thing? This is the problem with our community to begin with, who they wanna "claim" as black but thats not up to them, and if they really want a concrete answer how about they just take science as fact, if you are born with that dna in you, that is what you are. 🤷♀
Guys, TYLA's accent is not an Indian accent. That accent is how COLOURED people speak. Indian people in South Africa sound differently from how Indians in India speak, due to hundreds of years of being in South Africa.
As a southern African (near SA) I can tell you Indians came in as traders or business men. Some were servitudes, they were then, as popular as Nigerians are in the west! I say this because it’s common for most Southerners, like myself, to have Indian blood. My great grandfather (mum’s grandfather) was an Indian trader, he marriage a biracial woman (mums grandma) she was Portuguese, British and Cameroonian. Migrating and mixing didn’t start with Europeans! Most of our ancestors already knew of other ethnicities. When I left Africa (2002) there were so many Pakistani and Indian communities, so much so they have their festivals and religious holidays as part of our calendar. Africans and Asians are very similar, that’s why they can live side by side! Tyla is just one of many with mixed heritage!
Boi Americans just demonstrating their extreme entitlement 😂 they are the textbook example of why you should listen before you speak. They always have opinions about the world yet are completely culturally isolated and ignorant.
I agrée it’s not deep BUT since it’s so sensitive in america she should’ve said she’s multi racial the first time she saw people be uncomfortable with it. She can’t expect people to adjust for her when she’s trying to make it in america. She has to adjust for them. You don’t go to an america only speaking spanish & expecting everyone to start learning spanish to make you comfortable… you have to learn english in order to adapt. It’s the same for tyla with this coloured thing. She has to adapt & call herself mixed & stop bringing up the coloured thing & expecting people to adapt to it. I’m african btw.
Err no 😅 AMERICANS keep bringing up the issue of her race she’s only addressed it twice because she was comfortable with herself before your toxic culture, which make no mistake is very toxic! And whatever happened to acceptance you don’t have to speak Spanish but I’m still going to speak it, it’s my mother’s tongue. Travel the world interact with people outside of your home you might learn a thing or two
WRONG you adapt to the country you market to America has never pandered and change culture for foreigners to live in the U S you are expected to assimilate black white or "colored"
But she’s still African not so? I think that’s that. You can’t be African and start talking about complexion, to make it look like you’re not African or that you’re some special type of African. African is African whether you’re a coloured South African or not and that’s related to “blackness” or being black.
I don’t get what people want from her. If she claims she’s colored it’s her “denying she’s black” if she says she’s black she’s “using her blackness as an advantage” so she’s screwed regardless. She’s still a fairly new artists in the American market, not to discredit the fact that she has multiple hits in SA. People need to lay off her a bit
It's just Americans being Americans tbh. Always gotta put themselves front and center into every single thing even if the subject isn't from America to begin with. They just can't accept anyone who doesn't comply with their worldview.
America is so obsessed with labelling and assigning a person to a race. It's scary. I am a Caribbean (Trinidadian) woman and mixed - I don't even know my full ancestry. If I were to migrate to the USA, I would be skewered for not knowing EXACTLY what box to check!
You would be Black in America if that's how you present, whether you like it or not. Most Americans regardless of ethnicity dont know their full ancestry, but you still have to check one of those boxes. They do have a box for mixed as well.
In southern Africa, we refer to black people mixed with other races as coloured. Coloured simply means mixed to us. So to us, Tyla is coloured, i think she should have explained this better to avoid confusion within the American market.
I understand that and not arguing at all but she shouldn't be explaining her identity. The first time she said she was coloured and people took offense to that I can get to a certain point. The thing is, she explained she isn't fully black and people don't want to understand that.
@@gabriellemeche992BUT Americans are literally OBSSESSED with it and actually STARTED THE WHOLE DRAMA. Before she became famous in USA - She was already making BIG WAVES throughout Africa, Europe and Asia - THATS BILLIONS OF PEOPLE. AND THERE WAS 0.0 ISSUES.. Yet when she came to USA the shitstorm started - that says alot.
Yup she should have been nominated then made more music that grammy destroyed her career. Cause most people litelary call her industry plant now cause of that
@@agentc07When being educated some still choose ignorance because some still don't & won't see others outside the American perspective. Should some be receptive to being educated, all they need to do is Google now, it's all at our fingertips. The word colored does not only define the history of American Black people ❤
Tyla dad hails from Mauritius. Majority Mauritians ancestors roots from India. (So his dad) Tyla family name is Seethal( name originated from sanskrit llanguage, a Hindu name). Mother roots is Zulu and Irish.
I'm Ugandan and my sister is half South African who lives in South Africa, whenever I visit there all the mixed race people indigenous to South Africa refer to themselves as *coloured.* Her accent is South African, not Indian. If people have a hard time understanding this then go and visit South Africa and learn something 💯
Not the biggest Tyla fan, but calling her an industry plant is a stretch I was there for her "Getting late days" she deserves her success. Much love from SA 🇿🇦🤙🏿
As a Fellow African and a Nigerian, I think the issue is we don't take the "Am White, am Black" issue the same way. We were educated based on our culture and not the colour of Our skin. It doesn't mean that we are diminishing the colour of our skin in any way. For Example: if i am asked to introduce myself, I will say I am an African born in Nigeria not I am Black. I dont know if yall get what i am trying to say. We just embrace where we come from and what our culture is more than what the color of our skin is. Before I got on the internet, if anyone asked me what the colour of my skin was, I would say chocolate brown or something like that, not black. This difference is most likely due to us not have alot of white people among us. There was even a point where i think white, asian, espanic all look the same to me. We even have many people with light skin color that you guys would consider mixed race, but thats not the case for us What I am trying to say is that we dont differenciate ourselves by colour but by culture, that why we usually have the tribalism issue and not the racism issue.
Exactly even me I’m Nigerian but I was born in the U.S it felt so different when I used to visit home cause they didn’t care about my race Africans don’t really see race we see ethnicity, tribe etc. But in America Race is everything.
Yeah,....But be careful to assume the Nigerian experience on race is also same for all Africans. Southern African countries ie South Africa Namibia Botswana Zimbabwe Mozambique have plenty white people and other races living there for hundreds of years, and plenty mixed race people called coloured there. So blacks in Southern Africa do call themselves black first (then ethnicity) eg Xhosa, Tswana, Shona, Nyanja etc)
@@Gunners-zf7zg that's right and they don't speak the same language too. It's rare when some of them or the kulies or coloured or white people can speak any of the 9 languages in our country.
Her father is from Mauritius - an East African country - though he's of Indian heritage, and Tyla's mother is a South African native of Zulu descent with some Irish ancestryv
Tyla has been grinding hard even before the fame, its her time and we need to let her shine. Im not a fan of her music but i love it for her pushing and getting people talking.
What did she do wrong by rejecting Kai Cenat tho? She didnt want to go on a date with him then thats HER CHOICE. She doesnt owe him shit idk why people are getting so worked up about it. Plus she was as nice as she could be about the rejection.
she performs with prominent AA and ask to be promoted towards AA media and American music culture which runs the world music media consumption. Your global view is narrow because you don't acknowledge America's central role in the music and the music industry. She is trying to thrive off AAs while trying to hide her race. SA cannot make it in America claiming "coloured". She is indian/hispanic basically.
Does it mean that that population try to stray as far away from Blackness as they can as well? Because Creole people do that to. For Creole people who are European American passing, they try to separate themselves from their families and start a new life elsewhere as a European American. They call them Passe Blanc.
@@smoothsavage2870 not quite , but because of apartheid laws and the way things were - you had to. It afforded you a tiny better quality of life under that oppressive regime…but it’s not the same as this really because Coloured is legalised racial classification white passing coloureds still proudly claim coloured rather than white. Idk. It’s an interesting topic of discussion though
she performs with prominent AA and ask to be promoted towards AA media and American music culture which runs the world music media consumption. Your global view is narrow because you don't acknowledge America's central role in the music and the music industry. She is trying to thrive off AAs while trying to hide her race. SA cannot make it in America claiming "coloured". She is indian/hispanic basically.
Immagrants want to get in to make money off the American black dollar while most dont like American Blacks in general. The Yt’s wont accept them and uphold them as the next taylor swift.
This drama feels so manufactured. Even this video, I would say most Americans don't buy into this drama. In my opinion, you chose the most wild takes, that also received a substantial amount of pushback.
Why does EVERYTHING have to do with color. These artists should be judged by their music and character, NOT skin. I see how it’s somewhat an advantage in the industry but it’s annoying.
she performs with prominent AA and ask to be promoted towards AA media and American music culture which runs the world music media consumption. Your global view is narrow because you don't acknowledge America's central role in the music and the music industry. She is trying to thrive off AAs while trying to hide her race. SA cannot make it in America claiming "coloured". She is indian/hispanic basically.
Why does everything have to deal with color? The world has been colonized and everything has been made about color if you like it or not. Individuals status improves based on their proximity to whiteness. So individuals elevated in the industry are given perks, priority, money and fame based on that proximity. Or they are given a pedestal to perpetuate stereotypical behavior meant to program the masses.
Tyla: I’m a proud coloured woman from South Africa America: blasphemy! Why are you denouncing your race and using offensive terms! Tyla: to be clear, I’m coloured which includes black, in South Africa we have diverse cultures. America: y’all like coming here claiming to be black to benefit from the culture, what’s your real background?!
No that’s 🧢 , Kendrick never questioned drake’s blackness. Kendrick just pointed out that Drake saying the n-word was weird and he doesn’t like the way Drake says it. Mainly questioning Drake was never really in tune in the culture. It’s more about Drakes fakeness than his blackness if anything.
Why don't we ever let mixed/biracial people be true to themselves? Do you ever see white people forcing obama to be white? But I know 3/4 of the black community will lose the plot if Obama came out and said he identifies as mixed.
He did kinda take digs at his blackness and gatekeep blackness and other BM rappers were calling him "white boy" butter BM tend to gatekeep blackness out of jealousy too
She also friend zoned Kai Cenat because just a few seconds ago he was talking to his “other girl”. To right away asking Tyla after that AND on stream 💀 You should’ve mentioned that
I remember that, just came from talking with another girl who told him no and dropped her reasons and then gonna be like welp, there is no other option but......now how would you feel if someone is just asking out some one else in front of you, gets rejected for what sounded like good reasons and then turns to you as a last option live on set like that?
Tyla was South African, she does not have to confirm with the cultural classifications in the US, she is Coloured. She must not change her cultural identity and background just because that part of the world is not comfortable with who she is.
Coloured is a community, in its own right, her in south africa and they have their own heritage and culture. Her identity is not on the fence. What is considered coloured in America is not universal standards.
You can try as much as possible to educate these Americans but they are too self centred to step out of their own culture. They think the rest of the world should conform to their culture
Even in Namibia , we have a group of people we cal coloureds. Mixed people. She is literally being attacked for introducing herself as who she is . Americans need to seriously get over it.
She is a sweetie. I am South African, and can tell she is authentic in her accent, in her joy, in her confidence. You go girl! Make us proud. No-one will dismiss this lady, tho.
10:40 You right about almost everything, exccept Kendrick wasn't trying to say Drake isn't black he was pointing out that he doesn't identify with Black American Culture that he uses for credibility.
He really tired to use Kendrick to make his point. Kendrick said his son is a black man. Drake s son is only a quarter black. Black Americans know that our ancestors were raped and our bloodline is filled with other race’s blood in us. Mythology of the end of the 1 drop rule. She is not black because she is not American already. She is an African. To them they need to differentiate between a mixed race but we don’t because all of us are. Her saying that she is colored sounds like she thinks she’s better than other black people and if she was raised to believe that she will be ostracized by American culture.
@@EQ1303BOI kendrick accused drake of what Donald trump is accusing Kamla Harris of. They chose a culture whenever it suits them. Both Kendrick and Donald are not denying their opps identity then are saying they saying they are morphing when it suits them
@@donell307 In Namibia there are people who self identify as Basters (Rehoboth Basters) which literally translates to "bastards". Freedom means having the right to self identify as you choose, however offended other people may feel about it.
Not quite. It's a separate ethnic group in SA. Many are slave descendants, black South Africans are not slave descended. Most are Khoi san descended ( the oldest group of humans) black South Africans are not, All have non-Black African ancestry of some kind.
She's coloured, I'm also coloured staying in South Africa. Here coloured and black are not the same - it's just in America where people think it's the same. Coloured people are just mixed people comprised of different races, e.g. white-black, asian-black, white-asian, black-white-asian, etc. Sorry if you people think it's offensive but the truth is that it's common knowledge here and people are proud of it. Not just SA, but also people from Zimbabwe, Namibia, Mozambique, Eswathini (Swaziland). Lesotho, Botswana, Zambia, etc all have people who identify as coloured and are proud of it. Tyla can identify and be proud to be coloured and people should respect that and our decision as African's to use that term
Hi I have a question so I am from DR Congo and my mom grand grandma was mixed with Belgium because we were colonized and in my dad family his uncle is mixed too and I have European ethnicities so in SA will they call me colored it just a question. Hope you answer
Most of us US citizens don't care like that lol. She's dope but her keeping her status and building upon it is more contingent on her support from South Africa. Not us. Get off the internet and go outside. She's cool we have no issue with her outside of a small minority who doesn't understand the history of South Africa. Lol. Yall gotta chill 😎 She's already a star. All she has to do is keep making good music. You'll barely remember this as an issue as time passes
America as a country is narcissistic. They need to understand that out here the rest of us view things differently. We also experience races differently. Honestly, that whole situation was disrespectful to south African culture
Very true. But only natural because our music and entertainment has been popular all over the world. We've been the best at most things for most Americans lives. That will end tho and I hope when we're broke the world doesn't hate us
In America that is what they called Black Americans post slavery, it is seen as offensive. So when that term is brought to American and in Black American spaces (BET, Grammys, etc) it IS offensive. Yes South African has a different meaning for the term and since America’s civil rights timeline is different from South Africa Apartheid we are in different mind spaces. I believe Black Americans are not lax about terms like that because we have fought through blood, sweat and tears and know how dangerous it is to be ok or passive about such terms.
@@Chris-dh3ve Then this is a time to educate her about it the pain behind being called Coloured in America. Not knock her down and rip her apart. That's not fair to her. At the end of the day, she is a little girl that had big dreams of wanting to sing. She's not a politician.
@@praisesadenah they just need content nobody really cares that she's Southafrcan they just spinning in a trial for her to see if she can spin it or drop it tyla is a good artist tho but she needs this to empower her
@@альтерэго-ъ2ж but we never asked abt ur country, yall stay running yalls mouth abt the us doing something yet if i asked u what ur country is i can list a multitude of things wrong with it.
@@jxlinto i don't get why are you mad at everyone and think everyone has a problem with you. Lots of people around the world loves her, i am stating that these racist scandals mostly occur in American media, and that other international fans doesn't exaggerate these topics compared to USA . İ don't remember saying anything bad about your race or the singer. Can u stop using rude language
People care about her race more about her music which is sad, she's really talented and it was always her dream. People should focus on MUSIC because she's singer! I love her in interviews, I love her voice and album I literally bought the CD! I'm here to support her and don't care what she looks like, she's sweet and nice and just wants the music career. I'm all for it!
Right like wdym she’s not black or black enough. She’s literally in AFRICA the HOMELAND of black people ???? People just love to hate on anyone who’s doing better than them or a threat to their career
I listened to Tyla when she was performing locally in Southern African countries and then I just thought she was an influencer. She worked hard for this moment and I am happy for her like a proud dad or uncle would be cos then I just followed her for patriotic reasons🇿🇦🇿🇦 and felt too old for her content. I am a proud SouthAh and happy for her. May she keep flying this 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 higher and higher..
Last I checked my research papers "colored" means non-white...black people, brown, yellow, and everything in between. So even by US context, she is "colored" In Africa, "colored" means mixed with white and non-black races. Please, people should stop judging from their OWN definitions and consider that different parts of the world do not hold the same beliefs or definitions of the same thing. Ignorance is not pretty. This is just an extension of "Africa is a country" literally
She took off because I mean, look at her!!?? She is the total package. She can sing, dance and She is stunningly gorgeous. That is why she took off like she did. People underestimate the power of beauty
Eh baba we Are COLOURED, me my father is Zulu and my mother is Scottish I grew up with the Ouens and the Meddies of South Africa en ons staan met lyn🤙 🇿🇦. Ngapa ngimnyama and I love my life Just as it is. America likes thinking their ways are Thee way, niya hlanya nina, niya ntringa.
@@tasha1300 they aren’t known to have very good education, no disrespect every conversation I’ve had with a US citizen makes me question what they’re teaching them over there.
Tyla ( Water ) = Rihanna (Umberella) ; Sabrina Carpenter (Just because i liked a Boy) = Christina Aguilera ( Hurt ) ; Olivia Rodrigue (good 4 you) = Britney Spears (Baby one more Time ) = Everything is a cycle and nothing is new
As a South African I am genuinely impressed at how you handled this subject you actually did your research I mean you butchered the name of my legend Masekela but still well done man thanks for representing us well and respecting our culture it means a lot given how ignorant and rude some other people have been
Let me be real here: everyone called Rihanna an industry plant and a one hit wonder… look at where she is now! She’s one of the most influential artists of this time… please don’t be hard on Tyla! Like getting recognition on this industry is very hard.
14:26 As a South African, I understand that yes he needs to explore the race/culture in order to gain more knowledge but it funny how he said he won't ask something that is traumatizing yet he continued to ask something about a culture with an extremely traumatizing background just in an attempt to stick it to the label, while knowing the backlash of her just addressing her race.
The obsession with identity is reaching absurd levels and it's the fools with the biggest platforms who continue to perpetuate it. Most people probably think she's cute and like her music. If I was her publicist, I'd tell her to answer to it honestly and ignore the criticism. Ducking and dodging will only make it worse. People appreciate the truth way more than a faux facade.
I think is the new religion and I don’t mean it in a positive way. I mean her team failed her man she actually missed a really great opportunity to speak about South Africa and the culture we really could have had a discussion on Apartheid and its role in todays culture but instead we have one of the most awkward moments in history 😂 we still friends tho from SA to USA
What people forget when it comes to “fame” is that luck is the biggest part of being found by so many people. There’s a reason why there’s the saying “Right place at the right time”. And no hard work doesn’t do it. People can work hard for years, decades and not ever be seen, it all has to do with luck. Hard works helps after that luck has showed up cause it shows that you’re really into what you do and have the discipline to work for what you want.
Who cares about being from the motherland when you are just as mixed as an average American trying to become popular in the USA. Stay in the motherland 🙏🏾💗 I want the dark, deep, Afro unapologetic this is me from the motherland. Not “we were colonized even after we sent off enemy tribes or strangers and were too ignorant to correct ourselves or fight back” now 400 years later we call ourselves colored even though we would probably just go by tribes but that tricky colonialism right? It’s just an American thing right? Lol dont u see majority of other countries base their policies off of American ways. Not the other way around
Tyla is definitely not a industry plant. She has talent unlike other artists. Lets be real awards shows are woke and care about ratings they want to give everyone a award even in the most surprising way. Her Grammy award win was an example.
She has hits in SA as well South Africans are not your "usual person" we have a lot of cultural mix-ups. We joke around a lot too which can come off as being too good to be true, but most times it is true. We have a lot of stars in SA who will just be who they understand they can be and go with that. I think she's making it big because of her welcoming attitude and her good looks, something like Trevor Noah, but there is uniqueness there, it's just that people destroy what they do not understand Especially Americans 😂
i don't see why her ethnicity is an issue. I thought she's a singer, and the reason why people are supporting her is because of her music. So if she's not black and Indian, does that mean her music now is less good? This is not something like in politics where they're using race to market and relatability. Can you guys just listen to her music if you like it? for the record, I only know one song of her, which is Water. Charlamagne is no different from scummy media who is just pety and wants a reaction. If he didn't like what were the restrictions to ask, he shouldn't have done the interview and called it quits. He agreed to it, then suddenly asking them live for a reaction. Also, Black in America is really oblivious about other countries. There's a world outside your bubble. At this point, the black americans are the one being racist now.
Ok. Let me provide some context, at this year’s BET Awards, she was the ONLY female performer that didn’t twerk and she won an award OVER the other nominees (some or most performed that night and also ONLY SHOOK A$$ that night).
Tyla's ambiguous race and controversies are fueling her rise. Videos like this keep her in the timelines on social media platforms. Just when people start to forget about her, some RUclipsr makes a video bringing those controversies up.
She is definitely an industry plant.. Who is not even famous in home soil nor does she have a niche outside what her label and team has done for her.. Epic records just went for the most American looking singer they can groom and ignore the actual music industry and culture in South Africa and I'm south african hence why she doesn't have more interviews in South Africa
What I think is so frustrating is here is another racially ambiguous woman driven up the charts while far better BLACK singers are never pushed as hard, like Ayra Starr (Nigerian). It seems to keep happening.
you say that while artist like Sexy Red and Ms. Munch got elevated. It took H.E.R. to create a literal aura of mystery around how she looked before she got mainstream attention. Next time yous mention singers with actual talent, make sure those same people are actually being lifted in stardom.
Everytime a light skin or mixed get her shine her come the whom me ds bw. As if SZA a ds bw is not one of the biggest star right now. Shut the fuck up srsly, stream them and that's it !
It's not just south African but it is common in our African culture to refer to a light skinned person as coloured, I'm Zambian and people call me that to. The thing is even for example in my country i tell someone that i'm black, they give awkward responses n deny it thinking i'm not proud of being a mixed race. I think it's really important to be open and not always try to box people so that they fit into our narrative, the coloured response obviously comes intuitively because she's african. People really need to learn how to embrace diversity coz we'll never ever be all the same
The main reason ppl are annoyed w/ her is because she doesn't represent afrobeats. South Africa does amapiano and she is primarily from indian descent so she doesn't even represent the majority of the ppl of that genre. The US just found the first light skin ambiguous girl they can peddle as the face of afrobeats so that they dont have to give the actual artists of the industry their dues. Its just America being America.
Her issue is America doesn’t understand how ethnic groups work in Africa and like many popular artists..She targets the black dollar (whilst doubling down that she’s not black). I don’t know how this gets fixed.
sir, Amapiano is currently the biggest music genre in South Africa. Her music mainly being that means she's targetting whatever market has Amapiano or Afrobeat as a really popular music genre.
@@prod.byjoker3778 right, but her management and the platforms she attends like bigboi, breakfast club etc you only do that if you are targeting a certain demo especially in America. I’m not saying it’s her necessarily, more her marketing strategy stateside. Saying she’s blsck in US and coloured outside of US is always going to upset people.
@@OG-Macho that was legit the most PR response from her, doesnt feel genuine because theres not a Coloured I know that would claim to be Black. Her management were definitely trying to save face without realising that her base is larger than just the US at that point, and still is larger than the US currently.
Even though she has Irish ancestry you and I both know they are not claiming her. Hell I’m similar mixture to her(black,Indian,Irish) and they don’t claim me.
Why should she have to explain her race or heritage? Isn’t the music what matters? This whole debate is reeking of racism and colourism. As a mixed person myself you can be multiple races at once. I live in Jopan and I’m classified as ha-fu(half). But I look more white than Asian so sometimes I’m seen as a white person. My dad is Japanese and I’ve lived in Japan my whole life and when I explain that they would classify me as a proper Japanese person. You can like or dislike the ways cultures classify race or identities but that doesn’t give you any right to take away what her heritage is. And again all that should matter in the music industry is talent, which she clearly has.
While I'm not a huge fan of Tyla's music, one CANNOT deny her work ethic. Everything you see her do, she gives her all. And MAN! Talk about beauty!~ She's the full package for the next big thing. She deserves her spot.
She blew up cause she looks like an Angel, sing decently, and her management team refuses to lose money on her. It’s not supernatural. Kevin Hart savagely clowning on Kai Cenat made me spit out my whole coffee 🤣🤣🤣 “I almost punched you in your fking face… why would you do that?!” “We FrIeNdS tHo” 😂😂😂 every time he repeated it I laughed harder. The way he was actually appalled that Kai would do that. I died.
I don't hate Tyla but u saying she's a descent singer ehh don lie someone sings a song of vaginal discharge and wind s Grammy and ppl like Gabby Barrett,Dax win no grammy
The racial politics of America are almost fascinating. As is the ignorance that comes with it. Most blacks from there are seemingly incapable of understanding that the "one drop" rule isn't applicable universally.
TYLA is a COLORED race here in SOUTH AFRICA. I am South African and our mixed raced people are referred to AS COLOURED. STOOOOOP with the race question and enjoy the Music, simple. This is race thing is getting old very very fast. If you'll don't want her, bring her back home, we will continue to support her as we always did.
I wish race wasn’t even that important, most of the time our race is always brought up. Like especially if you are an artist and your darkskin your race and skintone will always be brought up in conversations. I feel bad that we can’t just focus on the art and music that the artist gives instead of their appearance.
industry plant would make sense if water was her first song & it blew like that, but she literally has a track record of previous music 😭. y’all know the internet runs everything now and you can come up in the blink of an eye
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Had she said she was black, they would have bashed her in SA... you cant ever win, so be authentic to your roots and beliefs
Yes I mean you can't be biracial and just cancel out half of your heritage
@@lesegogaebeeyn4005remember many so called Indians came from what is now Africa. Melanated to the core. Of course I am not talking about culture, identity or perceptions.
Exactly as a black woman in South Africa I would've been been shocked & pissed off if she said she was black. Because if she's black then what am I? We sure don't look the same. In African countries being black means being monoracially black. The one drop rule is not a thing here.
@@RayOfLetsatsi in some part of Africa they say mixed and mixed people are still part of the family and the ethnic group...
Remember also the 60 shades of Black. Good luck cleaning up the White man mess
@@RayOfLetsatsi in some parts of Africa they say mixed and mixed people are still part of the family and the ethnic group.
Remember the 60 shades of black. Good luck cleaning up the White man racial mess. Side note : while melanated people are being devided, Caucasians are growing White only cities in your part of Africa.
Why do Americans feel like the world revolves around them? she calls herself coloured because that's the term she is in South Africa (it's their term for mixed people) and they were also victims of Apartheid too. This doesn't mean she's "denying" her blackness at all, she's just letting y'all know she ain't 100% black neither. Not every country has had the One Drop Rule😂😂😂
It's literally annoying ndoda😂 they always feel like everything has to be approved by them
@@NkosanaMakhubelethey think they can tell us Africans what to identify ourselves with😂😂 fuck their ignorance
Literally what I'm screaming at the screen. She's worldwide. Everywhere else no one asks these questions. Just here.
American here. There is a faction that likes to obsess over identities and labels and wouldn't have been happy no matter what she said.
Isn’t she signed to an American label? Do you think if she wasn’t signed to an American label she would have the same reach?
I feel bad for Tyla, America cares so much about race and the interviewer is so rude, like you can see tyla is uncomfortable…
yeah. shes still innocent.
Yea , I was frowning while watching the whole video … I rly don’t get how is this a big deal 💀 those Americans rly be thinking the world revolves around them
Completely agree. Why I never made many American friends. I’m from Spain. Here people consider themselves white, but also a description. In US you will see a blue eyed blonde hair pale girl and she gets offended when she is labeled as white, here its the opposite. Among many many other things. My Syrian friend is white and considers her self white, its a description. Culturally Levante Arab, and ethnically/religiously Assyrian.
@@shanqi7117💀facts tho America ain’t the shit
Maybe she should go back to her country?
I really don’t understand what the problem is about Tyla’s race. Making a big deal outta nothing💀
Whilst ppl were worried about her race, im there just trying to figure how she blew up in like 2 secs😭
All depends on if she's got something valuable. White people will always trying to deny someone being black whenever they accomplish anything lol
@@Moonlight40471new management. She had already been out for like 4 years and had 2 hits and was only kinda popular in SA/Africa. New management marketed her hard on TikTok
Naw they’re mad they assumed that she was black and supported her for her race then feel betrayed… people need to stop focusing on race
@@YoungTCash pretty sure it's because she is black and they denying it with her odd classification was the issue, but yeah, stop focusing on race
People from the US and their obsession with ethnicity and skin color is something I have yet to understand
She is doing African music. People going to feel away.
@@oggwop6724I’m a black man from the Caribbean, every interaction I’ve had with a person from the US always leads to them asking about my “race” and ethnicity I find it weird tbh doesn’t matter the context
They wanna be African more than most people💀
@@sirsavagethe21st56FACTS!!! They are the only ones who are weird about race 😂
Hmm maybe it has something to do with the recent history of slavery that the country was founded on 🤔🤔🤔
7:43 WOMEN DO NOT OWE MALES ANYTHING! Tyla rejected the boy in the most polite way!
“nobody owes anyone anything” there, fixed it for you
@@bigmikey1344 No, they're pretty spot on.
Isn’t that the incel creep that made so many weird remarks about women?
AND MEN DO NOT OWE FEMALES ANYTHING!
What? No one said she owes him anything. She said no very politely and he backed away politely. He just got clowned on for getting rejected. I don’t know what you’re on about.
As a black American woman, I don’t understand why black people are mad at Tyla about her race. She LITERALLY came from a completely different country where “colored” is actually a RACIAL category. Colored there means “mixed” or “biracial” to us. Not all melanated people are black Americans like me, where my family has been in the U.S. since the late 1600s.
And that’s okay. Just like two black men, one from Nigeria and one from Jamaica, are not the same, and they’ll tell you that. Two men from Asia, one from Japan and the other from Thailand, they are not the same. Just because you speak Spanish doesn’t mean you’re Mexican. There are far more Spanish speaking countries than Mexico. In other words, Just because a lot of us have similarities doesn’t mean we are the same and that is okay to recognize. If it’s not distinguishable, cultures and people groups as we know it will cease to exist. No one will have a culture or identity that sets them apart from others. Tyla is a colored woman by her standards of where she comes from. I hold no hatred towards her for that🤷🏾♀️
Nothing you said was based in reality.
Doesn't help when women like Rihanna and Beyoncé constantly claim black when they're mixed tho
@@bnwo But they are black tho, can we not accept the reality that you can be more than one thing? This is the problem with our community to begin with, who they wanna "claim" as black but thats not up to them, and if they really want a concrete answer how about they just take science as fact, if you are born with that dna in you, that is what you are. 🤷♀
@@kendi1417 how tho its facts
@@bnwo how is Beyoncé mixed, she has two black parents?
Guys, TYLA's accent is not an Indian accent. That accent is how COLOURED people speak. Indian people in South Africa sound differently from how Indians in India speak, due to hundreds of years of being in South Africa.
you talking to some americans that are not geographically strong
Bra yam... You should know by now, Americans only believe what they want
Well it all depends where she grew up.
As a southern African (near SA) I can tell you Indians came in as traders or business men. Some were servitudes, they were then, as popular as Nigerians are in the west! I say this because it’s common for most Southerners, like myself, to have Indian blood. My great grandfather (mum’s grandfather) was an Indian trader, he marriage a biracial woman (mums grandma) she was Portuguese, British and Cameroonian. Migrating and mixing didn’t start with Europeans! Most of our ancestors already knew of other ethnicities.
When I left Africa (2002) there were so many Pakistani and Indian communities, so much so they have their festivals and religious holidays as part of our calendar. Africans and Asians are very similar, that’s why they can live side by side! Tyla is just one of many with mixed heritage!
@@RichardmpayiTnwayyour tyla wants to be black
Bro I’m South African and her biggest controversy being that she’s coloured is crazy leave us South Africans alone
Boi Americans just demonstrating their extreme entitlement 😂 they are the textbook example of why you should listen before you speak. They always have opinions about the world yet are completely culturally isolated and ignorant.
Then don’t come to America yall know how racist and face value this country is😂.
Literally no shit, the music was good dance was good, color of skin..... that will be problem
I'm african and i can say in our african culture we grew up being told someone who looks like Tyla is coloured.. not that deep
I agrée it’s not deep BUT since it’s so sensitive in america she should’ve said she’s multi racial the first time she saw people be uncomfortable with it. She can’t expect people to adjust for her when she’s trying to make it in america. She has to adjust for them. You don’t go to an america only speaking spanish & expecting everyone to start learning spanish to make you comfortable… you have to learn english in order to adapt. It’s the same for tyla with this coloured thing. She has to adapt & call herself mixed & stop bringing up the coloured thing & expecting people to adapt to it. I’m african btw.
Err no 😅 AMERICANS keep bringing up the issue of her race she’s only addressed it twice because she was comfortable with herself before your toxic culture, which make no mistake is very toxic! And whatever happened to acceptance you don’t have to speak Spanish but I’m still going to speak it, it’s my mother’s tongue. Travel the world interact with people outside of your home you might learn a thing or two
WRONG you adapt to the country you market to America has never pandered and change culture for foreigners to live in the U S you are expected to assimilate black white or "colored"
But she’s still African not so? I think that’s that. You can’t be African and start talking about complexion, to make it look like you’re not African or that you’re some special type of African. African is African whether you’re a coloured South African or not and that’s related to “blackness” or being black.
The spread of Marxism has broken and confused a lot of black Americans over here.
I don’t get what people want from her. If she claims she’s colored it’s her “denying she’s black” if she says she’s black she’s “using her blackness as an advantage” so she’s screwed regardless. She’s still a fairly new artists in the American market, not to discredit the fact that she has multiple hits in SA. People need to lay off her a bit
It's just Americans being Americans tbh. Always gotta put themselves front and center into every single thing even if the subject isn't from America to begin with. They just can't accept anyone who doesn't comply with their worldview.
Black women with bbls mad af that this skinny lady got so big.
thats an american thing coloured is a group of people who have their own food , culture and dressing and we love them so much
Bro colored and black are the same is like saying black and brown. Just where we come from black is og african and coloured/ colored are the US niggas
@@ayatollxh6539 black America is mad that they don’t move the pop culture needle anymore.
Most of it comes off immature, and goofy.
She seems like an absolute sweetheart.
I don’t wanna be rude but you don’t even know her 😅
Oh you do ??? Shut the hell up @@Congolesegirl_243
@@Congolesegirl_243that’s what context is for my G. “SEEMS” eludes to assumption or a perspective based on surface level things
Right. She’s just blown up so fast. People expect a new artist to be perfect. Not even rihanna or Nicki Minaj had perfect beginning careers
@@Congolesegirl_243 English!
“Looking like an absolute snack” my boy louaista is really on that 😂
real
Yeah that brother starving😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂💔that one got me 😂
Don’t blame him look at yer
She's fire tho what do you want?
America is so obsessed with labelling and assigning a person to a race. It's scary. I am a Caribbean (Trinidadian) woman and mixed - I don't even know my full ancestry. If I were to migrate to the USA, I would be skewered for not knowing EXACTLY what box to check!
then dont come simple
@@Thatgumurk 😂 you clever fool!
I remember talking to a American friend of mine and i ask her if america is a good country to visit and she said no
It sucks here😂
FELLOW TRINI! ❤ 😂
You would be Black in America if that's how you present, whether you like it or not. Most Americans regardless of ethnicity dont know their full ancestry, but you still have to check one of those boxes. They do have a box for mixed as well.
In southern Africa, we refer to black people mixed with other races as coloured. Coloured simply means mixed to us. So to us, Tyla is coloured, i think she should have explained this better to avoid confusion within the American market.
I understand that and not arguing at all but she shouldn't be explaining her identity. The first time she said she was coloured and people took offense to that I can get to a certain point. The thing is, she explained she isn't fully black and people don't want to understand that.
EXACTLY
@@gabriellemeche992BUT Americans are literally OBSSESSED with it and actually STARTED THE WHOLE DRAMA. Before she became famous in USA - She was already making BIG WAVES throughout Africa, Europe and Asia - THATS BILLIONS OF PEOPLE. AND THERE WAS 0.0 ISSUES.. Yet when she came to USA the shitstorm started - that says alot.
Her winning that Grammy that fast was more of a curse than a blessing tbh
Yup. In the long run...
it’s still a good thing
Yup she should have been nominated then made more music that grammy destroyed her career. Cause most people litelary call her industry plant now cause of that
@@GodivaaIt's cool for the moment but it's gonna hurt her long term. She won a Grammy before Snoop Dogg 😂
They don't make the same music so that doesn't really matter@keejay12
As a South African, this chat is boring. Yal choose ignorance
How about you educate? Mainly an American audience here.
Thats why americans cant even listen to any other genre they are in a plantation.
@@agentc07 Tyla already told you everything😂 what do you want from her kanzi?
Americans are sensitive, especially black Americans. If you couldn’t tell lol don’t mind them
@@agentc07When being educated some still choose ignorance because some still don't & won't see others outside the American perspective. Should some be receptive to being educated, all they need to do is Google now, it's all at our fingertips.
The word colored does not only define the history of American Black people ❤
Tyla dad hails from Mauritius. Majority Mauritians ancestors roots from India. (So his dad) Tyla family name is Seethal( name originated from sanskrit llanguage, a Hindu name). Mother roots is Zulu and Irish.
I'm Ugandan and my sister is half South African who lives in South Africa, whenever I visit there all the mixed race people indigenous to South Africa refer to themselves as *coloured.* Her accent is South African, not Indian. If people have a hard time understanding this then go and visit South Africa and learn something 💯
They must come to Cape Town and roam amongst the Coloured ouens.
There is no such thing as half south african 😂
@@bnwo Ermm in her case it is since her mother is Xhosa and our father is Uganda lol
@@prod.byjoker3778 They live in Cape Town 😂😂
@@j.i.k2.044 Xhosa do not equal South Africa or Uganda lol
Not the biggest Tyla fan, but calling her an industry plant is a stretch I was there for her "Getting late days" she deserves her success. Much love from SA 🇿🇦🤙🏿
dude there's no debate that she's an industry plant, but who cares she is just a performer, she not creating any music
She's an industry plant. We all know it. It's not a bad thing but it's a curse.
getting late was annie naai already
She needs to change her name. Sounds like a white man made it up.
You do know that she blew up in 2018 with a banger right 😂🇿🇦@@juliusjulius604
As a Fellow African and a Nigerian, I think the issue is we don't take the "Am White, am Black" issue the same way. We were educated based on our culture and not the colour of Our skin. It doesn't mean that we are diminishing the colour of our skin in any way.
For Example: if i am asked to introduce myself, I will say I am an African born in Nigeria not I am Black.
I dont know if yall get what i am trying to say. We just embrace where we come from and what our culture is more than what the color of our skin is.
Before I got on the internet, if anyone asked me what the colour of my skin was, I would say chocolate brown or something like that, not black.
This difference is most likely due to us not have alot of white people among us. There was even a point where i think white, asian, espanic all look the same to me.
We even have many people with light skin color that you guys would consider mixed race, but thats not the case for us
What I am trying to say is that we dont differenciate ourselves by colour but by culture, that why we usually have the tribalism issue and not the racism issue.
Exactly even me I’m Nigerian but I was born in the U.S it felt so different when I used to visit home cause they didn’t care about my race Africans don’t really see race we see ethnicity, tribe etc. But in America Race is everything.
100%
I'm a white African too from South Africa.
Yeah,....But be careful to assume the Nigerian experience on race is also same for all Africans. Southern African countries ie South Africa Namibia Botswana Zimbabwe Mozambique have plenty white people and other races living there for hundreds of years, and plenty mixed race people called coloured there. So blacks in Southern Africa do call themselves black first (then ethnicity) eg Xhosa, Tswana, Shona, Nyanja etc)
@@Gunners-zf7zg that's right and they don't speak the same language too. It's rare when some of them or the kulies or coloured or white people can speak any of the 9 languages in our country.
Her father is from Mauritius - an East African country - though he's of Indian heritage, and Tyla's mother is a South African native of Zulu descent with some Irish ancestryv
Bous liki do flmm
Bro "hails from" 😂😂😂
Her father as her mother are both coloured
@@mkmc94 yup I agree with that I am just telling about her different racial backgrounds
Zulu...thiught mom was Indian...guys
Tyla has been grinding hard even before the fame, its her time and we need to let her shine. Im not a fan of her music but i love it for her pushing and getting people talking.
What did she do wrong by rejecting Kai Cenat tho? She didnt want to go on a date with him then thats HER CHOICE. She doesnt owe him shit idk why people are getting so worked up about it. Plus she was as nice as she could be about the rejection.
Exactly bro
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Every country that was colonised has a Creole population or a multi-generational mixed race population. Coloured in South Africa is exactly that.
she performs with prominent AA and ask to be promoted towards AA media and American music culture which runs the world music media consumption. Your global view is narrow because you don't acknowledge America's central role in the music and the music industry. She is trying to thrive off AAs while trying to hide her race. SA cannot make it in America claiming "coloured". She is indian/hispanic basically.
Does it mean that that population try to stray as far away from Blackness as they can as well? Because Creole people do that to. For Creole people who are European American passing, they try to separate themselves from their families and start a new life elsewhere as a European American. They call them Passe Blanc.
@@smoothsavage2870 not quite , but because of apartheid laws and the way things were - you had to. It afforded you a tiny better quality of life under that oppressive regime…but it’s not the same as this really because Coloured is legalised racial classification white passing coloureds still proudly claim coloured rather than white. Idk. It’s an interesting topic of discussion though
People keep trying to find a reason to hate on Tyla, but theres literally no reason to hate on her
she performs with prominent AA and ask to be promoted towards AA media and American music culture which runs the world music media consumption. Your global view is narrow because you don't acknowledge America's central role in the music and the music industry. She is trying to thrive off AAs while trying to hide her race. SA cannot make it in America claiming "coloured". She is indian/hispanic basically.
is tyla that girl who is only famous because she puts water on her a$$ while shaking it for views?
She young and smoking hot, that's more than enough reason
Immagrants want to get in to make money off the American black dollar while most dont like American Blacks in general. The Yt’s wont accept them and uphold them as the next taylor swift.
This drama feels so manufactured.
Even this video, I would say most Americans don't buy into this drama.
In my opinion, you chose the most wild takes, that also received a substantial amount of pushback.
Why does EVERYTHING have to do with color. These artists should be judged by their music and character, NOT skin. I see how it’s somewhat an advantage in the industry but it’s annoying.
only in america is race that gets constantly discussed and associated with everything, i say this as an american 😭
@@cherrywineluxe honestly not only America but America sure does have emphasis on that and shoves it in your face.
she performs with prominent AA and ask to be promoted towards AA media and American music culture which runs the world music media consumption. Your global view is narrow because you don't acknowledge America's central role in the music and the music industry. She is trying to thrive off AAs while trying to hide her race. SA cannot make it in America claiming "coloured". She is indian/hispanic basically.
Why does everything have to deal with color? The world has been colonized and everything has been made about color if you like it or not. Individuals status improves based on their proximity to whiteness. So individuals elevated in the industry are given perks, priority, money and fame based on that proximity. Or they are given a pedestal to perpetuate stereotypical behavior meant to program the masses.
As a coloured from Southern Africa, we would just like to say to everyone making a fuss over us calling ourselves coloured, JOU MA SE POES MY BROE😂
dom naiiers my bru
I don’t know Afrikaans but I understood that clearly my bru😂
We don't blame you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Salute my bro hle kyki Vasi
Here all the gham naiers stiek uit🤣🤣. Hos dort😂😂.
Tyla: I’m a proud coloured woman from South Africa
America: blasphemy! Why are you denouncing your race and using offensive terms!
Tyla: to be clear, I’m coloured which includes black, in South Africa we have diverse cultures.
America: y’all like coming here claiming to be black to benefit from the culture, what’s your real background?!
No that’s 🧢 , Kendrick never questioned drake’s blackness. Kendrick just pointed out that Drake saying the n-word was weird and he doesn’t like the way Drake says it. Mainly questioning Drake was never really in tune in the culture. It’s more about Drakes fakeness than his blackness if anything.
This way
Why don't we ever let mixed/biracial people be true to themselves? Do you ever see white people forcing obama to be white? But I know 3/4 of the black community will lose the plot if Obama came out and said he identifies as mixed.
He did kinda take digs at his blackness and gatekeep blackness and other BM rappers were calling him "white boy" butter BM tend to gatekeep blackness out of jealousy too
He literally called drake Malibu's most wanted and A colonizer 😂
@@norths9142wrong 😂
She also friend zoned Kai Cenat because just a few seconds ago he was talking to his “other girl”. To right away asking Tyla after that AND on stream 💀 You should’ve mentioned that
He showed the clip that gives that context
he put her on the spot and that was so wrong. doesnt matter who it is, thats not how u ask a girl on a date.
I remember that, just came from talking with another girl who told him no and dropped her reasons and then gonna be like welp, there is no other option but......now how would you feel if someone is just asking out some one else in front of you, gets rejected for what sounded like good reasons and then turns to you as a last option live on set like that?
Tyla was South African, she does not have to confirm with the cultural classifications in the US, she is Coloured. She must not change her cultural identity and background just because that part of the world is not comfortable with who she is.
Coloured is a community, in its own right, her in south africa and they have their own heritage and culture. Her identity is not on the fence. What is considered coloured in America is not universal standards.
You can try as much as possible to educate these Americans but they are too self centred to step out of their own culture. They think the rest of the world should conform to their culture
Even in Namibia , we have a group of people we cal coloureds. Mixed people. She is literally being attacked for introducing herself as who she is . Americans need to seriously get over it.
Ye she’s coloured not flippen black why I’m black but I don’t like them calling her black because she’s coloured which should be respected
I am South African and I am a coloured.
Y'all are disrespectful as hell. Respect us coloured people
Yet most coloureds in South Africa, are the most racists in South Africa
Unless you somehow managed to meet all 5 million plus coloured south africans, that cannot be true@@TrixSA
Coloured people deserve some respect plus their real funny fr
As a Tswana woman I agree with African Americans, why isn't Tyla making coloured music and leaving the black music to actual black women
Exactly 😂 funny and we are unique in our own way.
As too Charlamagne, I don't fw him no more👎🏽
#colouredalltheway❤️
She is a sweetie. I am South African, and can tell she is authentic in her accent, in her joy, in her confidence. You go girl! Make us proud. No-one will dismiss this lady, tho.
10:40 You right about almost everything, exccept Kendrick wasn't trying to say Drake isn't black he was pointing out that he doesn't identify with Black American Culture that he uses for credibility.
wrong
@@kendi1417 sure buddy.... I know that response took a vast amount of brain power....😂😂🤣🤣🤣
He really tired to use Kendrick to make his point. Kendrick said his son is a black man. Drake s son is only a quarter black. Black Americans know that our ancestors were raped and our bloodline is filled with other race’s blood in us. Mythology of the end of the 1 drop rule. She is not black because she is not American already. She is an African. To them they need to differentiate between a mixed race but we don’t because all of us are. Her saying that she is colored sounds like she thinks she’s better than other black people and if she was raised to believe that she will be ostracized by American culture.
@@EQ1303BOI kendrick accused drake of what Donald trump is accusing Kamla Harris of. They chose a culture whenever it suits them. Both Kendrick and Donald are not denying their opps identity then are saying they saying they are morphing when it suits them
@@itumelengmeko9653 🎯
Being coloured in South Africa is the same as being mulatto in the USA and latin America.
Unless those countries have native unassimilated black people and they were forcefully separated from those black people, its not really the same.
I’ve honestly never heard that term before. Had to google it.
We don't use the term mulatto in the US. Mulatto literally means "mule" which was a slave designation
@@donell307 In Namibia there are people who self identify as Basters (Rehoboth Basters) which literally translates to "bastards". Freedom means having the right to self identify as you choose, however offended other people may feel about it.
Not quite. It's a separate ethnic group in SA. Many are slave descendants, black South Africans are not slave descended. Most are Khoi san descended ( the oldest group of humans) black South Africans are not, All have non-Black African ancestry of some kind.
She's coloured, I'm also coloured staying in South Africa. Here coloured and black are not the same - it's just in America where people think it's the same. Coloured people are just mixed people comprised of different races, e.g. white-black, asian-black, white-asian, black-white-asian, etc. Sorry if you people think it's offensive but the truth is that it's common knowledge here and people are proud of it. Not just SA, but also people from Zimbabwe, Namibia, Mozambique, Eswathini (Swaziland). Lesotho, Botswana, Zambia, etc all have people who identify as coloured and are proud of it. Tyla can identify and be proud to be coloured and people should respect that and our decision as African's to use that term
Hi I have a question so I am from DR Congo and my mom grand grandma was mixed with Belgium because we were colonized and in my dad family his uncle is mixed too and I have European ethnicities so in SA will they call me colored it just a question. Hope you answer
@@KenayaCathiakim mixed,
She’s fine af. She was going to pop regardless. Now the real question is if she can STAY.
I think she can
this should legit be the only question around her. But tell that to a lot of Black US Citizens.
Most of us US citizens don't care like that lol. She's dope but her keeping her status and building upon it is more contingent on her support from South Africa. Not us. Get off the internet and go outside. She's cool we have no issue with her outside of a small minority who doesn't understand the history of South Africa. Lol. Yall gotta chill 😎 She's already a star. All she has to do is keep making good music. You'll barely remember this as an issue as time passes
@@prod.byjoker3778 yea you're chronically online
@@nickjones5495 👍🏽
Tyla’s mom going “my other kids would try to rap to cheer me up, but ehhhh” 😂😂
Ikr lol
Tyla has created a voice for the Mixed race. I feel Mixed race people will relate to Tyla's problems.
Facts
Kendrick never said Drake wasn't blk, Kendrick was talking about culture 🤦🏾♀️ Drake is not of African American culture, which fuels hip hop.
you know for a fact Black US Citizens were gonna twist that entire narrative and end up making it their entire identity.
Lol nice try 🤣
@bnwo it wasn't a try. It's fact
@@arieltaylor6070 funny seeing you guys trying to throw it in reverse tho 😂
White people are the major buyers of Hip Hop. That is what fuels Hip Hop!!
Y'all need to stop hating this child
America as a country is narcissistic. They need to understand that out here the rest of us view things differently. We also experience races differently. Honestly, that whole situation was disrespectful to south African culture
Very true. But only natural because our music and entertainment has been popular all over the world. We've been the best at most things for most Americans lives.
That will end tho and I hope when we're broke the world doesn't hate us
Shout out to you Louaista for the great pronouncion of south africa 🇿🇦
Yall need to stop in Africa we call mixed people Coloured and they have their own culture and food
Black Americans can’t handle Africa. They get extorted and clowned.
@@DaddyGovernment-u1l you'll get your ass beat you have never extorted anyone a day in your life
In America that is what they called Black Americans post slavery, it is seen as offensive. So when that term is brought to American and in Black American spaces (BET, Grammys, etc) it IS offensive. Yes South African has a different meaning for the term and since America’s civil rights timeline is different from South Africa Apartheid we are in different mind spaces. I believe Black Americans are not lax about terms like that because we have fought through blood, sweat and tears and know how dangerous it is to be ok or passive about such terms.
@@Chris-dh3ve Then this is a time to educate her about it the pain behind being called Coloured in America. Not knock her down and rip her apart. That's not fair to her. At the end of the day, she is a little girl that had big dreams of wanting to sing. She's not a politician.
@@djkameronblazeperiod
Tyla has Indian genes that's true
Yup
It’s pathetic how sad miserable people are trying to make her claim something she’s not.
Tyla has been a small artist for 5+ years and now when a african lady gets recognition y'all do this?
They don’t like to see our people thrive at all.
@@praisesadenah they just need content nobody really cares that she's Southafrcan they just spinning in a trial for her to see if she can spin it or drop it tyla is a good artist tho but she needs this to empower her
@@praisesade its only the people in america that exaggerates everything. in my country this wouldnt be a big deal.
@@альтерэго-ъ2ж but we never asked abt ur country, yall stay running yalls mouth abt the us doing something yet if i asked u what ur country is i can list a multitude of things wrong with it.
@@jxlinto i don't get why are you mad at everyone and think everyone has a problem with you. Lots of people around the world loves her, i am stating that these racist scandals mostly occur in American media, and that other international fans doesn't exaggerate these topics compared to USA . İ don't remember saying anything bad about your race or the singer. Can u stop using rude language
People care about her race more about her music which is sad, she's really talented and it was always her dream. People should focus on MUSIC because she's singer!
I love her in interviews, I love her voice and album I literally bought the CD! I'm here to support her and don't care what she looks like, she's sweet and nice and just wants the music career. I'm all for it!
Right like wdym she’s not black or black enough. She’s literally in AFRICA the HOMELAND of black people ???? People just love to hate on anyone who’s doing better than them or a threat to their career
I listened to Tyla when she was performing locally in Southern African countries and then I just thought she was an influencer. She worked hard for this moment and I am happy for her like a proud dad or uncle would be cos then I just followed her for patriotic reasons🇿🇦🇿🇦 and felt too old for her content. I am a proud SouthAh and happy for her. May she keep flying this 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 higher and higher..
Last I checked my research papers "colored" means non-white...black people, brown, yellow, and everything in between. So even by US context, she is "colored"
In Africa, "colored" means mixed with white and non-black races. Please, people should stop judging from their OWN definitions and consider that different parts of the world do not hold the same beliefs or definitions of the same thing. Ignorance is not pretty.
This is just an extension of "Africa is a country" literally
That makes more sense. I thought mixed and colored were the same thing.
She took off because I mean, look at her!!?? She is the total package. She can sing, dance and She is stunningly gorgeous. That is why she took off like she did. People underestimate the power of beauty
Eh baba we Are COLOURED, me my father is Zulu and my mother is Scottish I grew up with the Ouens and the Meddies of South Africa en ons staan met lyn🤙 🇿🇦. Ngapa ngimnyama and I love my life Just as it is. America likes thinking their ways are Thee way, niya hlanya nina, niya ntringa.
use “our” culture? shes literally south african and does south african music. wtf about that is not HER culture and black american culture
Love and Support for Tyla from Indian 😊
Listening to a louaista video on my birthday is one of the best gifts ever.
Happy birthday
Are americans allergic to research or common sense or something? This can't seriously still be a conversation. Get over yourselves.
@@tasha1300 they aren’t known to have very good education, no disrespect every conversation I’ve had with a US citizen makes me question what they’re teaching them over there.
Definitely allergic to research.
Tyla ( Water ) = Rihanna (Umberella) ; Sabrina Carpenter (Just because i liked a Boy) = Christina Aguilera ( Hurt ) ; Olivia Rodrigue (good 4 you) = Britney Spears (Baby one more Time ) = Everything is a cycle and nothing is new
Cap! next
@@sawlty-suite5131 rihanna feat jayz (umberella) - tyla feat travis rock
As a South African I am genuinely impressed at how you handled this subject you actually did your research I mean you butchered the name of my legend Masekela but still well done man thanks for representing us well and respecting our culture it means a lot given how ignorant and rude some other people have been
Another video that's me proud to be a South African and a subscriber to your channel. Keep up the good work homie! 👏🏾🇿🇦🙂
Let me be real here: everyone called Rihanna an industry plant and a one hit wonder… look at where she is now! She’s one of the most influential artists of this time… please don’t be hard on Tyla! Like getting recognition on this industry is very hard.
She paid a heavy price to be @ where she is @, Rihanna I mean
14:26 As a South African, I understand that yes he needs to explore the race/culture in order to gain more knowledge but it funny how he said he won't ask something that is traumatizing yet he continued to ask something about a culture with an extremely traumatizing background just in an attempt to stick it to the label, while knowing the backlash of her just addressing her race.
The obsession with identity is reaching absurd levels and it's the fools with the biggest platforms who continue to perpetuate it. Most people probably think she's cute and like her music. If I was her publicist, I'd tell her to answer to it honestly and ignore the criticism. Ducking and dodging will only make it worse. People appreciate the truth way more than a faux facade.
This is woke culture. If you’re a lefty. You asked for this
@@DaddyGovernment-u1l lol, ikr.
I think is the new religion and I don’t mean it in a positive way. I mean her team failed her man she actually missed a really great opportunity to speak about South Africa and the culture we really could have had a discussion on Apartheid and its role in todays culture but instead we have one of the most awkward moments in history 😂 we still friends tho from SA to USA
@@DaddyGovernment-u1lonly if you’re far-left
She is not American, trying to hold her to American race standards is insane.
What people forget when it comes to “fame” is that luck is the biggest part of being found by so many people. There’s a reason why there’s the saying “Right place at the right time”. And no hard work doesn’t do it. People can work hard for years, decades and not ever be seen, it all has to do with luck. Hard works helps after that luck has showed up cause it shows that you’re really into what you do and have the discipline to work for what you want.
Industry Plant in South Africa is unheard of, you either lucky with a unique sound like Ladysmith Black Mabaso or the Legend Bra Hugh
She is talented yes but she got to where she is by dating a connected person that photographer.
@@Sataka23clips you believe whatever macg is telling and that is not good. Tyla is dating a black guy. Sho Madjozi's ex is white bro.
@@Sataka23clips 😂😂😂 o joke. O clown
The Problem is U.S. Americans, talking about their black culture... but Tyla is literally from the motherland.
Who cares about being from the motherland when you are just as mixed as an average American trying to become popular in the USA. Stay in the motherland 🙏🏾💗 I want the dark, deep, Afro unapologetic this is me from the motherland. Not “we were colonized even after we sent off enemy tribes or strangers and were too ignorant to correct ourselves or fight back” now 400 years later we call ourselves colored even though we would probably just go by tribes but that tricky colonialism right? It’s just an American thing right? Lol dont u see majority of other countries base their policies off of American ways. Not the other way around
nga u spent an hr writing dis hoe..... hats off @@aziababy5732
Tyla is definitely not a industry plant. She has talent unlike other artists. Lets be real awards shows are woke and care about ratings they want to give everyone a award even in the most surprising way. Her Grammy award win was an example.
what talent 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she s a fake
@@juniorluma9129Exactly, you can't win a damn grammy award that fast, even if you got talent cuz theres also popularity
Industry plants can be talented, and there's honestly nothing wrong with being an industry plant if labels see potential in you and you have talent
@@DanielShiloti every year there is a category fur new artist, is there something I'm missing?
She has hits in SA as well
South Africans are not your "usual person" we have a lot of cultural mix-ups. We joke around a lot too which can come off as being too good to be true, but most times it is true. We have a lot of stars in SA who will just be who they understand they can be and go with that.
I think she's making it big because of her welcoming attitude and her good looks, something like Trevor Noah, but there is uniqueness there, it's just that people destroy what they do not understand
Especially Americans 😂
You're naive
Ok
Especially Americans? So the radio host from South Africa calling her untalented was an undercover American trying to destroy her?
@@LIJerseyBrooklyn why do you think so.
Lets have a conversation
@@DarlingtonDonavanBaloyi-fn8rt She's an industry plant.
i don't see why her ethnicity is an issue. I thought she's a singer, and the reason why people are supporting her is because of her music. So if she's not black and Indian, does that mean her music now is less good? This is not something like in politics where they're using race to market and relatability. Can you guys just listen to her music if you like it?
for the record, I only know one song of her, which is Water.
Charlamagne is no different from scummy media who is just pety and wants a reaction. If he didn't like what were the restrictions to ask, he shouldn't have done the interview and called it quits. He agreed to it, then suddenly asking them live for a reaction.
Also, Black in America is really oblivious about other countries. There's a world outside your bubble. At this point, the black americans are the one being racist now.
As a south African that, Hugh masikela pronunciation 🙂🤣🤣
He tried shem🤣
He tried Shem 😂😂
Hhayi ngeke ntwana imshayile 😂
Honestly,
Shout out to her, she won a BET award without having to Twerk on stage.
Realest shii today
Plenty have
What’s the water challenge? She’s shaking something back there every time she hits the stage. Wdym?
Ok.
Let me provide some context, at this year’s BET Awards, she was the ONLY female performer that didn’t twerk and she won an award OVER the other nominees (some or most performed that night and also ONLY SHOOK A$$ that night).
@@jbk19xx57well….she was doing a more glorified twerking…Bacardi. Making her thing “jump”
Tyla's ambiguous race and controversies are fueling her rise. Videos like this keep her in the timelines on social media platforms. Just when people start to forget about her, some RUclipsr makes a video bringing those controversies up.
She is definitely an industry plant.. Who is not even famous in home soil nor does she have a niche outside what her label and team has done for her.. Epic records just went for the most American looking singer they can groom and ignore the actual music industry and culture in South Africa and I'm south african hence why she doesn't have more interviews in South Africa
I'll take Tyla over Sexy Red everyday
frrr
I really hope she keeps rising❤, she seems like a sweet person.
Man she’s an Indian born and raised in Africa just like Africans who live in Europe still African but was born and raised in Europe
She’s not just Indian tho she’s also black. They call her colored for a reason cause she isn’t only 1 race she’s multiple.
Who told you those lies ? 😂 Tyla was born and raised in south africa as a mixed race person . she grew up in my street 😂.
@@tapestrypleasures-d7z she said in an interview that she’s Indian
Have you seen her sister she looks like a mixed black woman with natural curls…
They give anyone a Grammy, except the ones that actually deserve it.
2014 Grammy flashbacks
it;s not your mother's house. They give who they want
Louaista your Videos are the best Content filled jam packed info...your voice is the perfect narrator.😊😊😊
What I think is so frustrating is here is another racially ambiguous woman driven up the charts while far better BLACK singers are never pushed as hard, like Ayra Starr (Nigerian). It seems to keep happening.
you say that while artist like Sexy Red and Ms. Munch got elevated.
It took H.E.R. to create a literal aura of mystery around how she looked before she got mainstream attention.
Next time yous mention singers with actual talent, make sure those same people are actually being lifted in stardom.
Relax
Everytime a light skin or mixed get her shine her come the whom me ds bw. As if SZA a ds bw is not one of the biggest star right now. Shut the fuck up srsly, stream them and that's it !
No one cares Ayra is boring
Shout out to you for the Hugh Masikela mention thats a South African Legend 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇿🇦
It's not just south African but it is common in our African culture to refer to a light skinned person as coloured, I'm Zambian and people call me that to. The thing is even for example in my country i tell someone that i'm black, they give awkward responses n deny it thinking i'm not proud of being a mixed race. I think it's really important to be open and not always try to box people so that they fit into our narrative, the coloured response obviously comes intuitively because she's african. People really need to learn how to embrace diversity coz we'll never ever be all the same
I swear this RUclipsr never disappoints 🙏 Thanks for another great vid
2:00 "looking like an absolute snack" Louaista shoot your shot
...i would.
@@mpazinambao2938 but we friends though
The main reason ppl are annoyed w/ her is because she doesn't represent afrobeats. South Africa does amapiano and she is primarily from indian descent so she doesn't even represent the majority of the ppl of that genre. The US just found the first light skin ambiguous girl they can peddle as the face of afrobeats so that they dont have to give the actual artists of the industry their dues. Its just America being America.
Her issue is America doesn’t understand how ethnic groups work in Africa and like many popular artists..She targets the black dollar (whilst doubling down that she’s not black).
I don’t know how this gets fixed.
sir, Amapiano is currently the biggest music genre in South Africa. Her music mainly being that means she's targetting whatever market has Amapiano or Afrobeat as a really popular music genre.
@@prod.byjoker3778 right, but her management and the platforms she attends like bigboi, breakfast club etc you only do that if you are targeting a certain demo especially in America. I’m not saying it’s her necessarily, more her marketing strategy stateside.
Saying she’s blsck in US and coloured outside of US is always going to upset people.
@@teeraynee it doesn’t work that way unfortunately. People will see her marketing herself to everyone and question her.
@@OG-Macho that was legit the most PR response from her, doesnt feel genuine because theres not a Coloured I know that would claim to be Black. Her management were definitely trying to save face without realising that her base is larger than just the US at that point, and still is larger than the US currently.
@@OG-Macho the US doesn’t understand how ethnicity works in a whole thats why they can’t comprehend she’s colored
“Looking like an absolute snack” bro just shooting his shot in case she ever sees this💯
That africa grammy award to her was painful to we Nigerians 😢😢😢
She representing the Irish community, much respect
Irish community ? Where? 😂
@@Congolesegirl_243 8:59
Even though she has Irish ancestry you and I both know they are not claiming her. Hell I’m similar mixture to her(black,Indian,Irish) and they don’t claim me.
When I see Tyla I see a pretty Indian lady.
Why should she have to explain her race or heritage? Isn’t the music what matters?
This whole debate is reeking of racism and colourism. As a mixed person myself you can be multiple races at once. I live in Jopan and I’m classified as ha-fu(half). But I look more white than Asian so sometimes I’m seen as a white person. My dad is Japanese and I’ve lived in Japan my whole life and when I explain that they would classify me as a proper Japanese person.
You can like or dislike the ways cultures classify race or identities but that doesn’t give you any right to take away what her heritage is.
And again all that should matter in the music industry is talent, which she clearly has.
While I'm not a huge fan of Tyla's music, one CANNOT deny her work ethic. Everything you see her do, she gives her all. And MAN! Talk about beauty!~ She's the full package for the next big thing. She deserves her spot.
She blew up cause she looks like an Angel, sing decently, and her management team refuses to lose money on her. It’s not supernatural. Kevin Hart savagely clowning on Kai Cenat made me spit out my whole coffee 🤣🤣🤣 “I almost punched you in your fking face… why would you do that?!” “We FrIeNdS tHo” 😂😂😂 every time he repeated it I laughed harder. The way he was actually appalled that Kai would do that. I died.
Kai fumbled hard honestly asking on a livestream is wild.
@@SH1N0B1W4NI mean he thought his popularity would've given a chance with her
@@SH1N0B1W4NHe never had a chance she already has a boyfriend and this fool meet him already.
@@mkmc94boyfriend where? 😂
I don't hate Tyla but u saying she's a descent singer ehh don lie someone sings a song of vaginal discharge and wind s Grammy and ppl like Gabby Barrett,Dax win no grammy
The racial politics of America are almost fascinating. As is the ignorance that comes with it. Most blacks from there are seemingly incapable of understanding that the "one drop" rule isn't applicable universally.
TYLA is a COLORED race here in SOUTH AFRICA. I am South African and our mixed raced people are referred to AS COLOURED. STOOOOOP with the race question and enjoy the Music, simple. This is race thing is getting old very very fast. If you'll don't want her, bring her back home, we will continue to support her as we always did.
I wish race wasn’t even that important, most of the time our race is always brought up. Like especially if you are an artist and your darkskin your race and skintone will always be brought up in conversations. I feel bad that we can’t just focus on the art and music that the artist gives instead of their appearance.
@praisesade 100%, why must race be questioned. Why can't they just enjoy the craft. Most "white" races are celebrated, no questions asked. 💯
industry plant would make sense if water was her first song & it blew like that, but she literally has a track record of previous music 😭. y’all know the internet runs everything now and you can come up in the blink of an eye
Logic said he's black 😂😂 this the new age where you can literally be anything you want to be 😂
Lmao I got second hand embarrassment from him😂😂 "is logica a n-word?"
@Ronsquaremy Right! Because a person can somehow be mixed, but not biracial
@@the5THofNOV he’s mixed by genotype because he also has black blood but he isn’t biRACIAL because phenotypically he’s only white
Americans call Obama black so why not Logic? If Obama was paler would you call him a white man?
If they Americans don't want her, we Africans will accept her with open arms
South America too