My Grandpa was Frogman in WWII & Korean War. You’re right...those sailors did not speak of their service much. Grandpa would say things in bits over the years until we figured it out.
@merch marine please make an effort and examine the facts of the case before making any careless remark like this. I'm sure you would want others to do the same when and if your reputation and name has been slandered like Mr. Ventura had to endure, because of some Liar who had the backing of big media spin folk. your friend RLTW
@@charlesburgos4711 The WWII Frogman, also known as Underwater Demolition Teams (UDT), began in WWII. You can find their history at the SEAL Museum website. The “L” for land began during the Vietnam War. My Grandfather, a Gunner’s Mate, also dove looking for bombs on the hull of his ship during the Korean War.
I would totally understand why he was not incline to talk about it. From outside soldiers of every rank could look like heroes, and maybe they are, but on their side, they have to deal with the brutality of war which the end result is repulsiveness against that subject. Sometimes I feel so glad to have been born in this time in a western society.
@@riccardod.888 My Grandfather was not repulsed by war and was glad to serve. He served in WWII and re-enlisted for the Korean War. His twin brother was a Marine who fought in the Battle of the Bulge earning a Bronze Star. He would fight again for his country. What they want to forget is the human tragedy that unfolds…the wounded and dead friends, civilians, the smell of death, the smell of blood, cities and towns blown apart, lives ruined. Blocking it out helped them move on mentally but it did cause trauma…PTSD today. They pushed on after they came home in order to see beauty and success once more.
My brother was Navy SEAL in Vietnam but I didn't know it until after he died. I had heard rumors that he was and when I asked him he just said don't believe everything you hear and left it at that. At his funeral his Co spoke and told about his time in the seals to some extent. Boy were we surprised. Yep today's Navy seals is a different breed
The SEALs were always hush-hush operations, and no one outside their unit really knew who they were. For the last 15 yrs, we hear about them and their operations nearly every night. I guess the remaining hush-hush guys are Delta. You never hear about them, but they are there.
* followed by: Gary R Smith, Harry Constance, Dick Couch, Greg McPartlin, James Watson, Michael Walsh, Thomas H. Keith, Darryl Young, Rad Miller Jr, Barry Enoch....and many more hahahah
lol marines have a lot of books all unit of armed forces has their own books. It's just the books of seals are more interesting than the others so it's more popular than the other
@David Bowman maybe, but he’s entitled to have that viewpoint. If he actually killed 1/4 of the people he says he killed in his books, he’d be a certifiable mass murderer. Lol
The one thing I agree on is that there’s definitely something lost. The allure or mysterious-ness. SEALs are something everyone knows about now. Kind of ruins the clandestine nature of the gig, IMO. I remember a certain SEAL (named removed) talking about how he would just tell people he was a Navy Diver when asked what he did while in the service. Much simpler.
Seals and all military men have been writting books about there tours on duty for ever, his opening statement is total bullshit. I could show you 20 books written by seals that are about there deployment in vietnam..... this guys a compulsive liar. And clearly stoned out of his mind
Ya, I was just pointing out Ventura was a little off on the salary guess. When I looked up the SEAL earnings, I also saw a SEAL (higher ranking), can earn $220,000 a year if they have been in the Navy for 20 years.
@@apostleintriumph1758 damn. That’s good but that’s a long tike to earn that. Still they’re underpaid grossly by how skilled they are and how dangerous their missions are as well
@@apostleintriumph1758 That's only if they are a Senior Officer and that kind of pay would probably be Admiral pay. An E9 SEAL isn't making anywhere near that. Pay grades are the same throughout all of the services. As an E1 in 2002 I made like $12000 / year. As an E7 in 2014 I was up to around $55,000 / year with BAH. In Afghanistan I got family sep pay and hazardous duty pay which was a nice little chunk.
I was at Coronado in '83 for advanced training, my water survival instructor was a Viet Nam vet. Had the back of one thigh blown out by a B-40 rocket in an ambush, looked like a shark had took a bite out of it. Toughest man I ever knew, and like Ventura said, quiet professional.
Jesse is such an engaging , intelligent , articulate personality and did at one time have bigger arms than Arnold ,he just didn't have time to bleed....
Hes a liar. Witnesses said Kyle knocked him down in the bar Not to mention after kyle was murdered he still kept the lawsuit against kyles fanily. A real hero huh.
He didn’t have time to deploy either. The reason he doesn’t talk about what he did on deployment is because he never deployed. He’s one of those double secret classified military special operations only the president knows about and even then can never tell kinda guys. IOW, he’s the Tim Walz of NO GOES
I am also a veteran navy udt/ seal retired ...grad 1974 june. i also understand what Jesse is saying..the bud/s instructors use to weed out the glory hounds..We were thier to do our job,defend the US Constitution from foriegn and domestic enimies. just like any other military man .We were patriots not in it for the money. We earned 110 dollars more per month for hazard ,para,and or comat .There was only about 666 of us at that time and Jesse , a true hero, is one of us ! Mark william richard Blasen. veteran navy udt/seal.
HERO? Him? What for...just serving.? All he;s done is run around talking about him being a SEAL for the last 40 years. Yet he's going to slander the community because of a few money minded folks got out and wrote books. Friggin President Obama outed these folks. They didn't do it themselves. Everyone who wrote a book got a personna Non Gratis notice from the units and won't be welcomed back ever...Just like Marcinko did. And Cat these folks have been at war for 17 years now....Many from the very beginning and are still here and doing God's work. Not like your Vietnam 12 month tours and done. How bout you talk about your generation of draftee, pot smoking, one tour surviving veterans, and I will talk about all the SF Teams and Seal Teams that I know who have 8 to 15 tours under their belt and still ain't out screaming poor pitiful me, we GOT PTSD.
no difference in his day. he could've been assigned to seal or udt after bud/s. i dont think he saw much combat, but that probably wasn't his choice, either
You should search youtube, some really great videos of him and much of things he say actually makes perfect sense. Some wild theories though but he is very down to earth
I’m no soldier but I say good for them for making bank off the war. They do the hardest of the hard jobs and put everything on the line for this country. I hope every one hits the lottery.
Has anyone thought about how Jesse could be lying? How Jesse figured he could self promote HIMSELF off of the events that had taken place? That Jesse thought he could get basically free public attention and money? Or, are you just going to ignore the basic possibilities?
@@benningsniper9516 I do not believe he is right. And nor do I even think you're correct. "SEALs are actors in training.", what kind of bull shit is that? Now I do not know if you're some former Military personnel. But SEALs wouldn't be going out there lying and trying to promote themself to the public. And why CAG Operators aren't lining up to make those movies and book deals, that's just how they [Army] works about it. If someone goes through hard shit in a war/life as a CAG operator, SEALs, Marine Raiders, or whoever the hell, it doesn't matter. Because one person in the Navy SEALs made a book don't mean jack shit.
Bullshit. The only “great lessons” are that they should keep their mouths shut rather than give away inside information and endanger their fellow SEALS. Your statement is ignorant and just plain dumb.
30,000 a year? Lol... annnnnnd a 90k bonus, jump pay, dive pay, hazard duty pay, reenlistment bonuses, high advancement quotas. Not saying they don't deserve it buuuut they make some money.
@@evanbrockway9847 Haha, I'm not sure how it goes by zone, but for me it's 36k with a 2k bonus for doing really well on the Navy basic fitness test and another 2k for doing really well on the PST. so technically it's 40k. However, when it comes to that 36k, I have no idea when I'm going to see that money or how I'm going to see that money.
@@evanbrockway9847 Yeah totally different, I was gonna kill it on those fitness tests regardless of the money. I felt a little guilty for having those options.
Jesse is so humble. He has only written like 3 books boasting about being a Navy Seal. Not to mention how humble it is to mention it every time he introduces himself. I wish more Navy Seals were like him, not just trying to use their background to make money...
@@pasta8709 Jesse or his critics? I have no feeling either way but I can say for myself I've never heard Jesse speak about any operations he was involved in and I think he's brave for exposing the chicken hawk politicians that wanna use our own boys to fight wars for corporations
I agree with you 100%. I've lost alot of respect for Navy Seals. I was in the Navy 30 years ago and they were different back in those days. I don't know why they feel the need to brag about what they've done and advertise about being a seal. I actually have more respect for the green berets because they tend to do their job and don't write books about it. In my opinion the navy seals do alot of classified assignments apparently some of them don't know the meaning of "classified". I remember seeing a license plate a few years ago that said "Sealteam 2." Come on guys straighten up and fly right.
@@lordofthegremlins the military forces(navy, air, army) have become a god damn instagram fest in my country. its sad to see, has no place in the military if you ask me.
He didn't include any "deployment stories" in his book because he never was on an active service SEAL team and never saw combat during the Vietnam War. He spent the Vietnam War as part of an underwater demolition team (UDT) stationed in the Phillippines and South Korea.
1) Ventura never served in a SEAL Team. He served in a UDT. Very similar, but they were indeed different 2) the SEALS of his generation were writing books too (Churck Pfarrer, Kelly Orr, Dick Couch, Rob Gormley, Dick Marcinkoetc) 3) Ventura has been using his SEAL status to legitimize himself since the 80's. No SEAL has shamelessly plugged themselves as a SEAL more than Ventura has. 4) Ventura never had a combat deployment. Kind of hard to brag about something you never did. Given his compulsory bragging, I think it's safe to say we'd know Ventura's war stories if he had any.
Born James George Janos, Jesse Ventura is a multi-faceted celebrity who has written books, served as a governor, acted for cinema, and wrestled professionally. He was born in 1951 in Minneapolis, Minnesota to two World War II veterans. By the time Ventura graduated from high school in 1969, the Vietnam War was underway. Ventura enlisted into the United States Navy and joined the Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) after graduating from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school. Ventura frequently references his military service in public, and a lawyer from San Diego criticized him for faking his claims of being a SEAL. Although Ventura never completed the extra 26 weeks of training to become a SEAL, the UDTs were broken apart and combined with the SEAL teams after Vietnam. Ventura claims that UDTs simply refer to themselves as SEALs due to the restructuring. Despite his membership with Underwater Demolition Team 12, Ventura never saw combat during Vietnam
I did not enlist in the navy seals to get rich...I would kill to defend the constitution. ( Patriot )...I would not kill for money !(mercenary).I was paid for my service just like all military are.Full time job.(Patriot..!)
funny...my uncle is from the same period as mr ventura and he is the same way. i have never heard him once speak of what they did. he has said that nobody really knew anything about seals then. our family never knew til after he was discharged @ 10+ years later. things have most definitely changed from those days. how many have profited of their stories just in the last 10 years is crazy to think about when you think about how secret it used to be.
Funny thing was the SEAL community went the "John Wayne Green Beret" route before the Vietnam Warstarted. The famous WW2 flick "The Frogmen" came out in 1950 and inspired many Vietnam era SEALs.The Navy put out a recruiting film called "The Men with Green Faces" around 1970, that was all about SEAL exploits in Vietnam. Ventura has to have heard of it. In fact, it was Ventura's good buddy Dick Marchinko, who started the whole cottage industry of former frogs making money off telling war stories when he talked about forming SEAL Team Six and its training. His contemporary, Delta Founder Charles Beckwith, also wrote a tell all book on the formation,organization, selection, training and first combat mission deployment of Delta in 1983.
The DOD has to vet all books written by former service people. So as much as people say "They shouldn't publicize this" , if The US Navy didn't want "Mark Owen" publishing a book on the OBL raid, it doesn't get published. The Armed Forces love things like this as a recruiting tool.
Jessie was never a SEAL. He went through SEAL training but wasn't assigned to a unit. He was assigned to an underwater demolition unit. I forget what they call it. But they have been in the spotlight since the 80's. I disagree that the Green Berets are in the spotlight. They operate behind enemy lines and blend in with local militias that are allies. Countertererrorism and protection for high level government officials. The only way you would know who they are is during a ceremony wearing their class "A" uniform. Shit, Rangers are more low key than SEALS. My best friend was 2/75 RGR RGT in the late '90's. He had utmost respect for SEALS, but joked that they were too Hollywood. He'd say,"They write books and make movies about them. Too high profile. We are under the radar." Even though all branches are on the same team, they like to bust balls of another service branch, even at the special ops level.
With enlistment bonuses, special incentive pay, special duty pay, and adding your BAH, you more then 30k a year. The pay is around 50k a year, for a new guy. Towards the end of your career, the pay increases to around 80k a year. Add the average cost of health care, and you are making a good living. Especially when you reenlist, tax free for 90k. Put the money in your TSP account and all of it's earnings are tax free. Move up a tier, and your pay increases ten to 12 a year more.
1975 I took a wrong turn in Winnipegs arena and came face to face with Ventura. As my 6'4" frame looked down to Jesse I was surprised he is well under 6' with muscles. I smirked at this and he growled at me
@Channing White I am honest friend. If Ventura was 6'1" or taller, I never would have had such a lasting memory of it. The difference was enough to make me turn to my friend Dave and smirk about the difference. That was when Ventura growled at me. Also right there was the flamboyant Adrian Adonis
he graduated buds class 58 in December 1970 and was a part of udt team 12 and retired from the service in September 10,1975 without ever seeing any combat
I know, he's really out of line. I appreciate his service, but that doesn't give him license to lie about being a SEAL. I'm not sure, but he may not even qualify as a Vietnam vet. He may be a "vietnam era vet", which is still honorable, but he shouldn't lie about it.
Not about his deployment. Of course Jesse was a SEAL but he never talks about his deployment since all the people in the SEAL team he was in (Reserve SEAL Team 1) didn't.
at first i thought this was just going to be a "back in my day" rant but then he started to be cool when he saw both sides of it and the reasons to why its happening
True. He explained it well.and the way the Military treat Special Operators, and service people of all branches, more power to them if they can make money from their experiences after their service is over.
@@shaunmai111 yeah, you've got football players earning millions whilst these guys are literally dying for their country and getting peanuts for what they do.
Guessing that $30K annually was Vietnam era pay scale. Assuming that was 1974 (wild guess), that would equal $160,000 today. Typical Jesse, half facts and omissions.
@David Erickson I was basing my numbers on an inflation calculator. Straight up discussion stating “I only made X dollars in Vietnam” is deceptive and meaningless. I was in the Army from ‘75-82, so I recall starting as an E-2 in basic making $349/ month, which worked out to about $255/ take home. I read somewhere else someone claiming that he and Jesse went thru UDT school in 1974. US supposedly quit sending combat troops to Nam in ‘73. However I enlisted into NG in Feb ‘75 on delayed entry. My guard unit received orders that we would be going to Nam the end of Nov 75 as base security troops. Last chopper left the embassy April 30,1975. There are a lot of stories that Jesse never actually went to Nam, and others that he was stationed in the Phillipines after school. He has a long history of fuzzy facts and bs claims.
@David Erickson I just looked at the numbers from the other direction. If Jesse was getting $30K annually, that would mean he was getting $2500/month. I call straight up BS! Jesse was not some Lt Col with 18 years time in service then. Even with all of the extra pay bumps for hazardous duty, etc. that is BS. Seems like I recall hazardous duty pay while I was infantry was $55/month. So more garbage and BS from Jesse.
I agree with you and you can't blame them. My dad was a decorated WW11 Veteran and he never talked about it. He would tell me something if I asked, but he was honest about it. I know he saw a lot of terrible things but he kept it all to hisself. Thank You and all of our Veterans and active duty military members for their service to America.
It’s not so bad to talk about what you did, it gives insight to civilians what they would face if they joined the seals. And thank the seals for their service.
I saw an interview with a former seal and he said part of the problem with the TV shows and the movies nowadays is that they start to show too much of the tactics used so we’re basically telling the bad guys what to expect. It causes the seal team staff to constantly revise their tactics.
Jesse is right...I was in Marine Corps 79-83. I never heard of SEALS until 81-82. I think I saw some lifting weights in Subic Bay in the weight room. Everyone of them where huge, fit, strong. I was a young Marine grunt then...I was small around 155-160 but could bench 300....SEALS were very respectful towards me especially their Chief as they watch me successfully struggle i in their weight room.Funny how long ago it was but can still see alk their faces.. They were the biggest and strongest I ever saw in any uniform. Remember thinking they could put a hand on my throat...would be all over for me. They are really true badasses.
This man saved my life - i had just finished my bar hopping when i hopped on my Harley and started it up trying to ride home but out of no where 10 guys jumped me then stole my ride, but before they could ride off this man shot and killed 5 of them in what it seemed like a split second. I went to thank the man who i now know is Jesse Ventura - Jesse Ventura not only saved my life but he is now my hero and i have utmost respect for the Navy Seal guys - they are super man.
Chris kyle was the perfect example of the douchebag that not only wrote a book as soon as he came back, but made outrageous claims in the book all for publicity boasting about how many people he killed. Once Hollywood used them to make money, and the term Navy Seal entered into the collective lexicon, then actual navy seals decided to cash in on it. It is all about ego and bravado now. Which is why so many guys go around bragging about being a navy seal when they aren't. That shit started only when the actual navy seals started to brag about it.
+Jon Burrows In his book, Kyle claims to have earned 2 silver stars and 5 broze stars with Valor. He LIED, 1 silver and 3 bronze is all he got. Lying about your medal count by increasing it without earning it is considered stolen valor and is dishonorable.
Pretty sure even to this day the Green Berets are the true "quiet professionals." People on YT can say what they feel but the public hardly ever hears anything about the Air Force's SOF or Marine Raiders.
Well lets be clear. Jesse was UDT. In the early days UDT was seperate from the SEALs. Jesse saw almost no combat. He didnt perfom combat patrols and midgnight raids. He was an Underwater Demolition Diver. SEALs and UDT merged. I would put any SEAL who is current or in the past decade, they have had multiple tours that invloved very little SCUBA diving and a lot of gun fights in the mountains and urban environments. The SEALs have become what everyone is interested in.
Michael Parsons James George Janos(his real name, what a loser) served from 1969 to 1976 and passed BUD/S in 1970 but never saw combat, he was a UDT guy that quit the military and made a fake name Jesse Ventura and did fake wrestling WWE like a loser, this guy just talked about how he doesn’t talk about being a seal when you can go look it up, he’s the most famous US SEAL and hasn’t even been deployed, that should piss you off! He is more famous than Marcus luttrele or mike Murphy or Matt axelson or Danny deitz or anybody else on that helicopter who gave their lives for this county, if you don’t know who I just talked about or what operation red wings is you have absolutely no reason to say shit you don’t know defending Jesse Janos or as a matter of fact any SEAL because you are uneducated. Jesse uses his “military status” to get elected into office and because it makes him feel cool
@@dalt1020 You seem a little butt hurt that your fake hero (Chris Kyle) got caught in yet another lie and his estate was rightly found guilty. You're completely clueless, kiddo.
You know another difference? Many (and I'm not saying all but some) Vietnam SEALs like Jesse come back thinking that they were badass when SEALs today are way more advanced and professional.
LOL Jesse was NEVER a SEAL. When he went through BUDs it was the Entry Course For SEALS and UDT. After Graduation you had to go through Additional Training to be SEALs or UDT. Ventura went to UDT,, He was Not Trained as a SEAL. Never earmed the MOS.
Exactly , he fails to see the irony in his statement. It's like rock 'stars' who have been all over the world, who live in their mansions(Bono...Clooney... cough cough) telling the rest of us to save the planet - well screw them, they made it by exploiting others so what gives them a higher moral position to now expect the rest of us not to do the same.
Julian Rain Usually after you retire or stop doing something you once loved an what made you you take pride in it an have no shame in telling people. you just never do while you are still active
Are you guys deaf or something? He said he didn't talk about his deployment and what he did in combat missions not about him being a SEAL. This is how a man gets defamed and worse buried. By morons who misinterprets what was said.
Julian Rain ..and he has no deployment stories to talk about because he never went anywhere dangerous!!..don't get me wrong I have utmost respect for the guy but like most seals bullshitting comes second nature!!
Well he NEVER went to Combat, so there's that. He got the Vietnam Sevice Medal for sitting on a Ship in the North China Sea with a UDT Team that never got off the boat.
Technically Ventura was not a SEAL... he was UDT... a Frogman. Same training though. UDT was eventually folded into the SEALS because they were basically the same thing.
Gainey Gainey it’s funny cuz if you look at his political campaign for governor of Minnesota it’s all about him being a navy seal. Guys a hypocrite who never saw combat.
The reason he never included stories of deployment was because he never saw combat and as far as I know, deployed overseas. He also never completed the extra training to become a SEAL. He was UDT which was re-structured into the SEAL Teams, and I believe that community DOES consider them to be a SEAL. My point is don't take anything at face value.
My late father was a sailor in the navy. He doesn't talk much but sometimes he makes jokes about everything. Once a time we've spent 2 weeks in a hut in the middle of our land which is some part of it was jungle. We've planed to planted some trees in our land. He doesn't smoke and drink but he can see in the dark at night in the jungle and he's quite expert on making things using some natural sources in the jungle, at his mid-60s he could make push ups in the banks of swift river and he could climb to the top of big tree. There is some photo of my father with beard and long hair along with his navy friends in an unknown place. He never told me about the duty. May He rest in peace.
Wtf are you even talking about? He was a SEAL before he became a former wrestler (as well as a former Governor) which made him famous. Are you saying that someone being a former famous star in wrestling, as well as a former movie star, and then turning towards politics, being a former Minnesota Governor (etc.), (ALL of this) while also being a former SEAL, all of a sudden somehow makes one prejudice against other SEALs? Jesse's SEAL career is ENTIRELY different from the other things that he's accomplished. Rhetorical question, but was your head already up your own ass when that realization just passed you by?
He did earn the right to do so. Even Don Shipley concedes that he did the push-ups, he swam in the cold every other day, got wet and sandy, did the log PT, i don't know if he dealt with ol Misery, I'd think he did as most SEAL trainees do at least once, he endured the no sleep of Hell Week . Like it or not, he earned the Trident of his day, they didnt have eagles on them back then.
@@g1llifer he says Agent Orange exposure caused blood clots in his lungs which ended his wrestling career but he wasn't in Vietnam. Steroids did that. Also he claimed filming Predator have him flashbacks. Never in action. He insisted on filming that scene with Richard Chaves, a genuine humble Vietnam veteran.
Ventura enlisted into the United States Navy and joined the Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) after graduating from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school. Ventura frequently references his military service in public, and a lawyer from San Diego criticized him for faking his claims of being a SEAL. Although Ventura never completed the extra 26 weeks of training to become a SEAL, the UDTs were broken apart and combined with the SEAL teams after Vietnam.
Ventura is right. During Vietnam, hardly anybody even knew the SEAL's existed. And they were some of the deadliest operators in the theatre. Now they've gone Hollywood. In fact, all of SOCOM in this era are high profile now. But the SEAL's take it to another level. Right now, Delta is the most "mysterious" American special operations unit.
I don't think these warriors sold out. It's our government, the civilian and top brass at the Pentagon that sold them out. Vietam, Iraq and how We left Afghanistan was an insult to these warriors. Let them tell their stories because We want to hear and honor them.
Knew and hung around with a group of Seals during the Viet Nam era, they always said "we will never talk about what we do, it is our business alone and we expect the government to do the same" in other words don't say nothing about us and keep our deployments silent. They were the unknown warriors and liked it like that.
This is exactly what got Chris Kyle killed. He created a company called Kraft International to train police, his charity work was related to the company. He had a problem when taking a solider w/ PTSD to the shooting range of texting his friend(s) that rode with them about how weird the solider w/ PTSD was. There was complete silence on these rides. The last one Chris took, the solider w/ PTSD wigged out and shot him and his friend Chad. If they would've engaged the solider they were trying to help instead of texting back n forth how weird he was I think Chris would be alive today. Can't imagine how awkward those rides for soldiers must have been. Total silence.
The "soldier" who murdered Chris and Chad had never seen combat. His PTSD experience was when he ran out of dope. Yipper, a doper murdered those 2 family men.
That's like the Airforce Tier 1 unit I think the 24th squadron? There is only a few hundred of them in existence they're on the same level as Delta but no one has ever heard about them or knows what they do or what their patch looks like.
None of that is true. The 24th is the elite of the air force. Seals are the elite of the navy. Rangers/berets are the elite of the army. Delta is the elite of all those 3 elite combined. And I'm sure theres more elite then that, but there top secret.
Hold on, what about "Men with Green faces" and books like that? That was Vietnam era SEALS. Seems like he's still mad at Chris Kyle. And, I think it's great that the people write books, because it's a way of seeing whet they went through so hopefully no one goes through it again. You know, like History books do.
THE REAL SEAL TEAM 6 DIED OVER A FOREST IN AFGHANISTAN WHILE TRAVELING IN ONE SLOW MOVING TRANSPORT HELICOPTER WITHOUT APACHE AIR SUPPORT WHICH IS STANDARD PROCEDURE - MANY BELIEVED THEY WERE KILLED BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT THE TRUE IDENTITY OF OSAMA BIN LADEN AFTER ASSASINATING HIM IN PAKISTAN AND THE HOAX THAT SURROUNDS HIM - THEY GOT ELIMINATED - THESE SEALS HAVE LETDOWN MANY IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY FOR WRITING BOOKS AND MAKING MOVIES - IN SHORT THEY HAVE BROKEN THE CODE OF HONOR AND ARE THEMSELVES DISHONORABLE TO THEIR OWN TEAM MATES (Other seals)
There is no such thing as a Special Forces sailor. Special Forces is U.S. Army. U.S. Navy has Special Warfare. If you had served you would know this, phony bastard.
He didn’t even talk about his encounter with the predator. A real profesional
That was the laugh I needed. 😅
Yep he sure is
it wasnt stateside...if he fought Predator in South Dakota it would have been in his book.
very funny. You got time to duck?
😂😂😂😂😂
My Grandpa was Frogman in WWII & Korean War. You’re right...those sailors did not speak of their service much. Grandpa would say things in bits over the years until we figured it out.
@merch marine You're an idiot
@merch marine please make an effort and examine the facts of the case before making any careless remark like this. I'm sure you would want others to do the same when and if your reputation and name has been slandered like Mr. Ventura had to endure, because of some Liar who had the backing of big media spin folk. your friend RLTW
@@charlesburgos4711 The WWII Frogman, also known as Underwater Demolition Teams (UDT), began in WWII. You can find their history at the SEAL Museum website. The “L” for land began during the Vietnam War. My Grandfather, a Gunner’s Mate, also dove looking for bombs on the hull of his ship during the Korean War.
I would totally understand why he was not incline to talk about it. From outside soldiers of every rank could look like heroes, and maybe they are, but on their side, they have to deal with the brutality of war which the end result is repulsiveness against that subject.
Sometimes I feel so glad to have been born in this time in a western society.
@@riccardod.888 My Grandfather was not repulsed by war and was glad to serve. He served in WWII and re-enlisted for the Korean War. His twin brother was a Marine who fought in the Battle of the Bulge earning a Bronze Star. He would fight again for his country. What they want to forget is the human tragedy that unfolds…the wounded and dead friends, civilians, the smell of death, the smell of blood, cities and towns blown apart, lives ruined. Blocking it out helped them move on mentally but it did cause trauma…PTSD today. They pushed on after they came home in order to see beauty and success once more.
My brother was Navy SEAL in Vietnam but I didn't know it until after he died. I had heard rumors that he was and when I asked him he just said don't believe everything you hear and left it at that. At his funeral his Co spoke and told about his time in the seals to some extent. Boy were we surprised. Yep today's Navy seals is a different breed
@Tom yawn...... another brilliant keyboard warrior
Your family needs to see his service records to be 100% certain.
Get his DD-214
update his DD-214 was on display with his medals and all at my sisterinlaws house where she held the wake ...i have no need to question it
@@Grizz270then get lost
The SEALs were always hush-hush operations, and no one outside their unit really knew who they were. For the last 15 yrs, we hear about them and their operations nearly every night. I guess the remaining hush-hush guys are Delta. You never hear about them, but they are there.
David Cooper Barely anybody has ever heard of MARSOC and Force Recon.
David Cooper you don't hear about marine or airforce spec ops either
lol marsoc is Marine Force Recon, delta is the green berets.
No. The real quiet professionals of today are the CIA's Special Activities Division. Specifically the Special Operations Group.
Yeah. Spec Ops guys talk, even in if low numbers, they talk. I've never heard any ex-CIA paramilitary guys talk.
"In my day SEALs didn't talk about what went on in deployment."
* Dick Marcinko has left the chat
Hahaha legit
* followed by: Gary R Smith, Harry Constance, Dick Couch, Greg McPartlin, James Watson, Michael Walsh, Thomas H. Keith, Darryl Young, Rad Miller Jr, Barry Enoch....and many more hahahah
Yup. Ventura is full of shit, as always.
lol marines have a lot of books all unit of armed forces has their own books. It's just the books of seals are more interesting than the others so it's more popular than the other
@David Bowman maybe, but he’s entitled to have that viewpoint. If he actually killed 1/4 of the people he says he killed in his books, he’d be a certifiable mass murderer. Lol
The one thing I agree on is that there’s definitely something lost. The allure or mysterious-ness. SEALs are something everyone knows about now. Kind of ruins the clandestine nature of the gig, IMO.
I remember a certain SEAL (named removed) talking about how he would just tell people he was a Navy Diver when asked what he did while in the service. Much simpler.
Seals and all military men have been writting books about there tours on duty for ever, his opening statement is total bullshit. I could show you 20 books written by seals that are about there deployment in vietnam..... this guys a compulsive liar. And clearly stoned out of his mind
Or, he worked for MWR passing out basketballs!
Kenny Stabler told girls at the bar that he was a crop duster from Alabama. That was the 60s. Simpler times.
@@andymcgram7643 Does that make it right?
@@andymcgram7643name the authors and books bro? so your claim has some validity
Unbelievable that tre SEALs are being paid so little with how dangerous their missions are.
That’s insane
I looked it up. The typical SEAL gets $54,000 a year.
@@apostleintriumph1758 that’s literally peanuts compared to active duty overseas
Ya, I was just pointing out Ventura was a little off on the salary guess. When I looked up the SEAL earnings, I also saw a SEAL (higher ranking), can earn $220,000 a year if they have been in the Navy for 20 years.
@@apostleintriumph1758 damn. That’s good but that’s a long tike to earn that. Still they’re underpaid grossly by how skilled they are and how dangerous their missions are as well
@@apostleintriumph1758 That's only if they are a Senior Officer and that kind of pay would probably be Admiral pay. An E9 SEAL isn't making anywhere near that. Pay grades are the same throughout all of the services. As an E1 in 2002 I made like $12000 / year. As an E7 in 2014 I was up to around $55,000 / year with BAH. In Afghanistan I got family sep pay and hazardous duty pay which was a nice little chunk.
I was at Coronado in '83 for advanced training, my water survival instructor was a Viet Nam vet. Had the back of one thigh blown out by a B-40 rocket in an ambush, looked like a shark had took a bite out of it. Toughest man I ever knew, and like Ventura said, quiet professional.
Jesse is such an engaging , intelligent , articulate personality and did at one time have bigger arms than Arnold ,he just didn't have time to bleed....
@That drummer from all those different bands thats the most Arnold thing to do ever
Hes a liar. Witnesses said Kyle knocked him down in the bar Not to mention after kyle was murdered he still kept the lawsuit against kyles fanily. A real hero huh.
@@letsgobrandon6281 who?
@@letsgobrandon6281 all those witnesses who were silent during the lawsuit?
He didn’t have time to deploy either. The reason he doesn’t talk about what he did on deployment is because he never deployed.
He’s one of those double secret classified military special operations only the president knows about and even then can never tell kinda guys.
IOW, he’s the Tim Walz of NO GOES
And that's just the way it should be. Stay a quiet professional.
I am also a veteran navy udt/ seal retired ...grad 1974 june. i also understand what Jesse is saying..the bud/s instructors use to weed out the glory hounds..We were thier to do our job,defend the US Constitution from foriegn and domestic enimies. just like any other military man .We were patriots not in it for the money. We earned 110 dollars more per month for hazard ,para,and or comat .There was only about 666 of us at that time and Jesse , a true hero, is one of us ! Mark william richard Blasen. veteran navy udt/seal.
HERO? Him? What for...just serving.? All he;s done is run around talking about him being a SEAL for the last 40 years. Yet he's going to slander the community because of a few money minded folks got out and wrote books. Friggin President Obama outed these folks. They didn't do it themselves. Everyone who wrote a book got a personna Non Gratis notice from the units and won't be welcomed back ever...Just like Marcinko did. And Cat these folks have been at war for 17 years now....Many from the very beginning and are still here and doing God's work. Not like your Vietnam 12 month tours and done. How bout you talk about your generation of draftee, pot smoking, one tour surviving veterans, and I will talk about all the SF Teams and Seal Teams that I know who have 8 to 15 tours under their belt and still ain't out screaming poor pitiful me, we GOT PTSD.
The bastards of batan is my heroes
With a SEAL brother of the same time period, I can speak to their integrity and silence but today’s Battle is in keeping the Truth at the Forefront
Thank you for your service.
You haven't done shit then what the hell is it that you have to keep "quiet?"
Anyone ever see the first Predator movie? It was awesome...
Yeah and glad ventura wasn't what made it good.
Only place Ventura deployed
The predator killed Epstein....
Ain't got to watch
anybody not seen the first predator movie? get out of your cave and get you one of those new fangled DVD players.
Jesus, I feel I've missed a few decades. I have not seen this man since 'I ain't got time to bleed'. Not at all what I thought he would look like now.
Lol my exact thoughts when I came across him on here last week.
To bad Jesse was never a seal. He was under water demo. What a joke
no difference in his day. he could've been assigned to seal or udt after bud/s.
i dont think he saw much combat, but that probably wasn't his choice, either
You should search youtube, some really great videos of him and much of things he say actually makes perfect sense. Some wild theories though but he is very down to earth
Joshua i think you havent served yourself, only civies make comparisons like that.
Watch anyway ruclips.net/video/KeO1DUtnKsE/видео.html
So many war heroes in the comments. Thank you for your cervix.
LOL
Boy
I think you mean 🤔”Service”
@@bluethedev3544 since you have gaming in your username i'm assuming you don't know what a cervix is
Been in a lot of hairy sticky situations.....
I agree with him.. wasn’t just the seals.. it was every part of the navy.. nobody talked about their service just the shenanigans that happened on r&r
R&R, is where the real war stories took place! Everyone began and ended in X, or multiples there of!
The quiet professionals of today are Air Force PJ’s etc…and Marine Force Recon/Marine Raiders units.
I’m no soldier but I say good for them for making bank off the war. They do the hardest of the hard jobs and put everything on the line for this country. I hope every one hits the lottery.
@@jon8004 that’s all war is lol
@@jon8004 Those on the frontline against ISIS definitely should.
@@AI-ml1sl He never he said he wanted to be one, jackass.
@@jon8004 tell that to contractors
@@AI-ml1sl oh look mr tough guy you are an operator yourself?
Theres a big difference between self promotion and just telling great stories and teaching great lessons that are really valuable to society
Has anyone thought about how Jesse could be lying? How Jesse figured he could self promote HIMSELF off of the events that had taken place? That Jesse thought he could get basically free public attention and money? Or, are you just going to ignore the basic possibilities?
@@swampfox9633 he's definitely right. Why aren't CAG operators lining up movie and book deals?
SEALs are actors in training.
@@benningsniper9516 I do not believe he is right. And nor do I even think you're correct. "SEALs are actors in training.", what kind of bull shit is that? Now I do not know if you're some former Military personnel. But SEALs wouldn't be going out there lying and trying to promote themself to the public. And why CAG Operators aren't lining up to make those movies and book deals, that's just how they [Army] works about it. If someone goes through hard shit in a war/life as a CAG operator, SEALs, Marine Raiders, or whoever the hell, it doesn't matter. Because one person in the Navy SEALs made a book don't mean jack shit.
@@swampfox9633 no, but ten, twenty is a trend.
Baby SEALs are either actors or designing workout equipment.
Bullshit. The only “great lessons” are that they should keep their mouths shut rather than give away inside information and endanger their fellow SEALS. Your statement is ignorant and just plain dumb.
30,000 a year? Lol... annnnnnd a 90k bonus, jump pay, dive pay, hazard duty pay, reenlistment bonuses, high advancement quotas. Not saying they don't deserve it buuuut they make some money.
It's a $36,000, not 90k.
@@jackrose5077 that's the initial? Because zone b SRB was 90k.
@@evanbrockway9847 Haha, I'm not sure how it goes by zone, but for me it's 36k with a 2k bonus for doing really well on the Navy basic fitness test and another 2k for doing really well on the PST. so technically it's 40k. However, when it comes to that 36k, I have no idea when I'm going to see that money or how I'm going to see that money.
@@jackrose5077 wtf, we didn't get 2k for doing shit.. I joined 10 years ago go though, different Navy now I guess.
@@evanbrockway9847 Yeah totally different, I was gonna kill it on those fitness tests regardless of the money. I felt a little guilty for having those options.
Jesse is so humble. He has only written like 3 books boasting about being a Navy Seal. Not to mention how humble it is to mention it every time he introduces himself. I wish more Navy Seals were like him, not just trying to use their background to make money...
You're exactly right!!!!
Well he got into acting and professional wrestling and then Governor of Minnesota so kinda hard to not talk about for various reasons
@@HesGay very hypocrite, indeed.
@@pasta8709 Jesse or his critics? I have no feeling either way but I can say for myself I've never heard Jesse speak about any operations he was involved in and I think he's brave for exposing the chicken hawk politicians that wanna use our own boys to fight wars for corporations
Wuh? He sued a dead SEAL. Jesse is an opportunist, pandering to those that will enrich him.
I agree with you 100%. I've lost alot of respect for Navy Seals. I was in the Navy 30 years ago and they were different back in those days. I don't know why they feel the need to brag about what they've done and advertise about being a seal. I actually have more respect for the green berets because they tend to do their job and don't write books about it. In my opinion the navy seals do alot of classified assignments apparently some of them don't know the meaning of "classified". I remember seeing a license plate a few years ago that said "Sealteam 2." Come on guys straighten up and fly right.
No, you don’t get to lose respect for them just because you were in the Navy as a Chef. 😂
That license plate was probably a fake/phony SEAL.
Senior Chief Don Shipley outed a guy a while back with a SEAL-related Virginia vanity plate.
"Back in my day..."
😂😂
No ones quiet nowadays. About anything. Everything is out in the open, this is the sad, sad era of the brag.
Talk about dynaflos or the McGuire Sisters!
@@lordofthegremlins the military forces(navy, air, army) have become a god damn instagram fest in my country. its sad to see, has no place in the military if you ask me.
He didn't include any "deployment stories" in his book because he never was on an active service SEAL team and never saw combat during the Vietnam War. He spent the Vietnam War as part of an underwater demolition team (UDT) stationed in the Phillippines and South Korea.
He admitted it in 2002.
@Don-rl1smUDT in Subic Bay Philippines
1) Ventura never served in a SEAL Team. He served in a UDT. Very similar, but they were indeed different
2) the SEALS of his generation were writing books too (Churck Pfarrer, Kelly Orr, Dick Couch, Rob Gormley, Dick Marcinkoetc)
3) Ventura has been using his SEAL status to legitimize himself since the 80's. No SEAL has shamelessly plugged themselves as a SEAL more than Ventura has.
4) Ventura never had a combat deployment. Kind of hard to brag about something you never did. Given his compulsory bragging, I think it's safe to say we'd know Ventura's war stories if he had any.
Born James George Janos, Jesse Ventura is a multi-faceted celebrity who has written books, served as a governor, acted for cinema, and wrestled professionally. He was born in 1951 in Minneapolis, Minnesota to two World War II veterans. By the time Ventura graduated from high school in 1969, the Vietnam War was underway.
Ventura enlisted into the United States Navy and joined the Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) after graduating from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school. Ventura frequently references his military service in public, and a lawyer from San Diego criticized him for faking his claims of being a SEAL. Although Ventura never completed the extra 26 weeks of training to become a SEAL, the UDTs were broken apart and combined with the SEAL teams after Vietnam. Ventura claims that UDTs simply refer to themselves as SEALs due to the restructuring. Despite his membership with Underwater Demolition Team 12, Ventura never saw combat during Vietnam
Wow..this guy is awesome. He goes into the tiny details of things and brings out the truth in it.
To what details do you refer?
Entitledprick - He's a politician, what do you expect?
Rey T He’s a statesman
I did not enlist in the navy seals to get rich...I would kill to defend the constitution. ( Patriot )...I would not kill for money !(mercenary).I was paid for my service just like all military are.Full time job.(Patriot..!)
Humble man....in which I truly honor!!! A true hero to me!!! God bless him!!!
I want to ask this man, if social media and the Internet existed back in those days, how much different would it be from today?
funny...my uncle is from the same period as mr ventura and he is the same way. i have never heard him once speak of what they did. he has said that nobody really knew anything about seals then. our family never knew til after he was discharged @ 10+ years later. things have most definitely changed from those days. how many have profited of their stories just in the last 10 years is crazy to think about when you think about how secret it used to be.
Funny thing was the SEAL community went the "John Wayne Green Beret" route before the Vietnam Warstarted. The famous WW2 flick "The Frogmen" came out in 1950 and inspired many Vietnam era SEALs.The Navy put out a recruiting film called "The Men with Green Faces" around 1970, that was all about SEAL exploits in Vietnam. Ventura has to have heard of it. In fact, it was Ventura's good buddy Dick Marchinko, who started the whole cottage industry of former frogs making money off telling war stories when he talked about forming SEAL Team Six and its training. His contemporary, Delta Founder Charles Beckwith, also wrote a tell all book on the formation,organization, selection, training and first combat mission deployment of Delta in 1983.
The DOD has to vet all books written by former service people. So as much as people say "They shouldn't publicize this" , if The US Navy didn't want "Mark Owen" publishing a book on the OBL raid, it doesn't get published. The Armed Forces love things like this as a recruiting tool.
Jessie was never a SEAL. He went through SEAL training but wasn't assigned to a unit. He was assigned to an underwater demolition unit. I forget what they call it. But they have been in the spotlight since the 80's. I disagree that the Green Berets are in the spotlight. They operate behind enemy lines and blend in with local militias that are allies. Countertererrorism and protection for high level government officials. The only way you would know who they are is during a ceremony wearing their class "A" uniform. Shit, Rangers are more low key than SEALS. My best friend was 2/75 RGR RGT in the late '90's. He had utmost respect for SEALS, but joked that they were too Hollywood. He'd say,"They write books and make movies about them. Too high profile. We are under the radar." Even though all branches are on the same team, they like to bust balls of another service branch, even at the special ops level.
With enlistment bonuses, special incentive pay, special duty pay, and adding your BAH, you more then 30k a year. The pay is around 50k a year, for a new guy. Towards the end of your career, the pay increases to around 80k a year. Add the average cost of health care, and you are making a good living. Especially when you reenlist, tax free for 90k. Put the money in your TSP account and all of it's earnings are tax free. Move up a tier, and your pay increases ten to 12 a year more.
He had to get the jab in at the Green Berets even though the Green Berets and 1st detachment delta are the quiet professionals.
1975 I took a wrong turn in Winnipegs arena and came face to face with Ventura.
As my 6'4" frame looked down to Jesse I was surprised he is well under 6' with muscles.
I smirked at this and he growled at me
@Channing White I was about 1.5 ft away from Ventura and the fact I had to look down a significant amount 1975 confirmed
@Channing White my 5'2" mother had a son 6'4"
Ventura may have been 6' but seemed almost a full head shorter than I
@Channing White I am honest friend. If Ventura was 6'1" or taller, I never would have had such a lasting memory of it.
The difference was enough to make me turn to my friend Dave and smirk about the difference. That was when Ventura growled at me.
Also right there was the flamboyant Adrian Adonis
@Channing White yeah, I lost interest over 40 years ago. Did see Andre the giant.
Liked the Crusher
Waoo!! I loved him
He is the only one who always said the true and always has details!!
he graduated buds class 58 in December 1970 and was a part of udt team 12 and retired from the service in September 10,1975 without ever seeing any combat
How would he know? He was UDT and was NEVER A SEAL. Guy needs to shut the hell up
I know, he's really out of line. I appreciate his service, but that doesn't give him license to lie about being a SEAL.
I'm not sure, but he may not even qualify as a Vietnam vet. He may be a "vietnam era vet", which is still honorable, but he shouldn't lie about it.
He says I didn't write about it in my book! That's funny.
Not about his deployment. Of course Jesse was a SEAL but he never talks about his deployment since all the people in the SEAL team he was in (Reserve SEAL Team 1) didn't.
Jessie Brother was UDT as well...before Jessie....
at first i thought this was just going to be a "back in my day" rant but then he started to be cool when he saw both sides of it and the reasons to why its happening
True. He explained it well.and the way the Military treat Special Operators, and service people of all branches, more power to them if they can make money from their experiences after their service is over.
SEALs earn 72k per year on avg not 30k. Just googled it.
Average is correct, but more than likely they’re getting way more because of deployment pay, hazard pay, etc. They deserve way more though
@@shaunmai111 yeah, you've got football players earning millions whilst these guys are literally dying for their country and getting peanuts for what they do.
Guessing that $30K annually was Vietnam era pay scale. Assuming that was 1974 (wild guess), that would equal $160,000 today.
Typical Jesse, half facts and omissions.
@David Erickson I was basing my numbers on an inflation calculator. Straight up discussion stating “I only made X dollars in Vietnam” is deceptive and meaningless. I was in the Army from ‘75-82, so I recall starting as an E-2 in basic making $349/ month, which worked out to about $255/ take home.
I read somewhere else someone claiming that he and Jesse went thru UDT school in 1974. US supposedly quit sending combat troops to Nam in ‘73. However I enlisted into NG in Feb ‘75 on delayed entry. My guard unit received orders that we would be going to Nam the end of Nov 75 as base security troops. Last chopper left the embassy April 30,1975.
There are a lot of stories that Jesse never actually went to Nam, and others that he was stationed in the Phillipines after school. He has a long history of fuzzy facts and bs claims.
@David Erickson I just looked at the numbers from the other direction. If Jesse was getting $30K annually, that would mean he was getting $2500/month. I call straight up BS! Jesse was not some Lt Col with 18 years time in service then. Even with all of the extra pay bumps for hazardous duty, etc. that is BS. Seems like I recall hazardous duty pay while I was infantry was $55/month. So more garbage and BS from Jesse.
When was Ventura in combat? He spent VN in the Philippines.
I agree with you and you can't blame them. My dad was a decorated WW11 Veteran and he never talked about it. He would tell me something if I asked, but he was honest about it. I know he saw a lot of terrible things but he kept it all to hisself. Thank You and all of our Veterans and active duty military members for their service to America.
It’s not so bad to talk about what you did, it gives insight to civilians what they would face if they joined the seals. And thank the seals for their service.
I saw an interview with a former seal and he said part of the problem with the TV shows and the movies nowadays is that they start to show too much of the tactics used so we’re basically telling the bad guys what to expect. It causes the seal team staff to constantly revise their tactics.
Jesse is right...I was in Marine Corps 79-83. I never heard of SEALS until 81-82. I think I saw some lifting weights in Subic Bay in the weight room. Everyone of them where huge, fit, strong. I was a young Marine grunt then...I was small around 155-160 but could bench 300....SEALS were very respectful towards me especially their Chief as they watch me successfully struggle i in their weight room.Funny how long ago it was but can still see alk their faces.. They were the biggest and strongest I ever saw in any uniform. Remember thinking they could put a hand on my throat...would be all over for me.
They are really true badasses.
Subic Bay was a CIA training base. All the opium grown by the CIA in Laos was turned into heroin in Subic Bay. When were you there?
Nice humble bragging about lifting 300 lbs douchebag.
This man saved my life - i had just finished my bar hopping when i hopped on my Harley and started it up trying to ride home but out of no where 10 guys jumped me then stole my ride, but before they could ride off this man shot and killed 5 of them in what it seemed like a split second.
I went to thank the man who i now know is Jesse Ventura - Jesse Ventura not only saved my life but he is now my hero and i have utmost respect for the Navy Seal guys - they are super man.
" A true shinobi does not set out to seek glory. They protect from the shadows. That is a mark of a true ninja".
- Itachi Uchiha
Where has Jesse been? His RUclips channel hasn’t had a post in over three years.
Chris kyle was the perfect example of the douchebag that not only wrote a book as soon as he came back, but made outrageous claims in the book all for publicity boasting about how many people he killed.
Once Hollywood used them to make money, and the term Navy Seal entered into the collective lexicon, then actual navy seals decided to cash in on it. It is all about ego and bravado now. Which is why so many guys go around bragging about being a navy seal when they aren't. That shit started only when the actual navy seals started to brag about it.
Mark S i know its crazy how incensistnt IT is
1 silver star, 4 bronze stars with Valor , 160 confirmed kills numerous unit medals . Loved and respected by a Nation. You're the douche haha
+Jon Burrows In his book, Kyle claims to have earned 2 silver stars and 5 broze stars with Valor. He LIED, 1 silver and 3 bronze is all he got. Lying about your medal count by increasing it without earning it is considered stolen valor and is dishonorable.
@@jonburrows7874
And yet he lied so much (Jessie Ventura case).
Nah. Stolen valor has been a thing for a long time.
"The courage of a soldier is found the be the cheapest and most common quality of human nature."
- Gibbon
Pretty sure even to this day the Green Berets are the true "quiet professionals." People on YT can say what they feel but the public hardly ever hears anything about the Air Force's SOF or Marine Raiders.
Well lets be clear. Jesse was UDT. In the early days UDT was seperate from the SEALs. Jesse saw almost no combat. He didnt perfom combat patrols and midgnight raids. He was an Underwater Demolition Diver. SEALs and UDT merged. I would put any SEAL who is current or in the past decade, they have had multiple tours that invloved very little SCUBA diving and a lot of gun fights in the mountains and urban environments. The SEALs have become what everyone is interested in.
He was based in Subic Bay Philippines
The difference specifically is just the change of an era.. Not that only seals have changed in the ways he’s saying, it’s everyone that’s changing
Social media, basically
He has been bragging up his seal stuff forever.
he has to say he is a navy seal everytime, so u morons can listen
He doesn't have any deployment stories because he was never deployed to Vietnam
Exactly what I said
He was, do some research.
Michael Parsons he wasn’t
Michael Parsons James George Janos(his real name, what a loser) served from 1969 to 1976 and passed BUD/S in 1970 but never saw combat, he was a UDT guy that quit the military and made a fake name Jesse Ventura and did fake wrestling WWE like a loser, this guy just talked about how he doesn’t talk about being a seal when you can go look it up, he’s the most famous US SEAL and hasn’t even been deployed, that should piss you off! He is more famous than Marcus luttrele or mike Murphy or Matt axelson or Danny deitz or anybody else on that helicopter who gave their lives for this county, if you don’t know who I just talked about or what operation red wings is you have absolutely no reason to say shit you don’t know defending Jesse Janos or as a matter of fact any SEAL because you are uneducated. Jesse uses his “military status” to get elected into office and because it makes him feel cool
@@dalt1020 You seem a little butt hurt that your fake hero (Chris Kyle) got caught in yet another lie and his estate was rightly found guilty. You're completely clueless, kiddo.
This guy was never deployed, look it up and take what he has to say with a grain of salt
His brother was though right?
You know another difference? Many (and I'm not saying all but some) Vietnam SEALs like Jesse come back thinking that they were badass when SEALs today are way more advanced and professional.
1000% agree.
I heard you once wrestled Bob Backlund for 45 minutes in the Philadelphia spectra. To a Draw!
Philadelphia Spectrum
Bob Backlund was a wrestling machine.
I agree with gov. ventura because he is correct and not affraid to tell the truth.
True story....ask Joe Rogan, he interviews anyone up to and including those that serve chow in BUDs
He's right. All of these popular former SEALs have become chatty patties for the sake of attention or money.
LOL Jesse was NEVER a SEAL. When he went through BUDs it was the Entry Course For SEALS and UDT. After Graduation you had to go through Additional Training to be SEALs or UDT. Ventura went to UDT,, He was Not Trained as a SEAL. Never earmed the MOS.
How to become a mercenary then? 300k a year fck yea hooorah.
Smart trash*
GuerrillaFPS don’t kill for money
Sell your soul?
GuerrillaFPS well you would have to be in the military first anyway sooo
Says the guy who thinks navy seals make 30 k a year. Might wanna do a lil research first...lol
"Back in my days, we didn't talk about being a S.E.A.L."
Meme
talks constantly about being a S.E.A.L.
Exactly , he fails to see the irony in his statement.
It's like rock 'stars' who have been all over the world, who live in their mansions(Bono...Clooney... cough cough) telling the rest of us to save the planet - well screw them, they made it by exploiting others so what gives them a higher moral position to now expect the rest of us not to do the same.
Julian Rain True, but he isnt making movies about his service for money. And he has other skills (ie he's a fckn governor of a state)
Julian Rain Usually after you retire or stop doing something you once loved an what made you you take pride in it an have no shame in telling people. you just never do while you are still active
Are you guys deaf or something? He said he didn't talk about his deployment and what he did in combat missions not about him being a SEAL. This is how a man gets defamed and worse buried. By morons who misinterprets what was said.
Julian Rain ..and he has no deployment stories to talk about because he never went anywhere dangerous!!..don't get me wrong I have utmost respect for the guy but like most seals bullshitting comes second nature!!
As he makes a video talking about his seal experiences after writing a book
I thought Ventura was UDT. Not a SEAL.
Ventura never went to Vietnam. He says he only talks about training because that's all he did.
He doesn’t tell deployment stories because he was never deployed to combat as a SEAL
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He was UDT, if I recall.
And are you sad about that ?
He was UDT. There was almost no difference back when he was in. Even Don Shipley has stated that he sees Venturas service as a SEAL as legit.
They are the same essentially yes. But, he didn’t deploy in any form of a combat role so he has no stories. That’s the point. He’s an unopened Gi Joe.
My dad told me most men that have been in combat do not like to talk about. Jesse seems proud yet reserved, I like that.
Well he NEVER went to Combat, so there's that. He got the Vietnam Sevice Medal for sitting on a Ship in the North China Sea with a UDT Team that never got off the boat.
@@joeschmoe9154 They did to get off the boat, nearly constantly. How else would they play beach volleyball?
I love all these comments bashing his service, all from people too scared to join the national guard, I guarantee.
Plenty of bootlickers weren't in the military like yourself.
Jesse doesn't have any deployments stories, that's why they aren't in his book.
Technically Ventura was not a SEAL... he was UDT... a Frogman. Same training though. UDT was eventually folded into the SEALS because they were basically the same thing.
Dear SEALS....Quit getting us killed, we'd appreciate it. With love, the 75th Ranger Regiment.
pfdrtom “ranger lead the way” to where? I don’t think rangers where ever the first in any war or battle just bunch of pussies
@@Jacob-nj5hg So.. another SEAL fan boy here.
Jacob Anderson stfu 😂😂
@@Jacob-nj5hg d-day, grenada, panama, Afghanistan sound familiar?
I have never heard a Army Ranger run his mouth! Thanks men!
Stop acting like you live a code of silence when in reality you have no interesting deployment stories.
Gainey Gainey it’s funny cuz if you look at his political campaign for governor of Minnesota it’s all about him being a navy seal. Guys a hypocrite who never saw combat.
The reason he never included stories of deployment was because he never saw combat and as far as I know, deployed overseas. He also never completed the extra training to become a SEAL. He was UDT which was re-structured into the SEAL Teams, and I believe that community DOES consider them to be a SEAL. My point is don't take anything at face value.
He was stationed in the Phillipines and never saw combat, like he endlessly claimed. He admitted it in 2002.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc the way he talks, to me it comes across as if he did and just doesn't talk about it
@@sck_outlawhe's full of it.
I herd that he only went through UDT training and not BUD/S .
I have a family relative who was w the 5th Seal team in Vietnam and it had him as a fueler on his dd 214
That's funny!
My late father was a sailor in the navy. He doesn't talk much but sometimes he makes jokes about everything. Once a time we've spent 2 weeks in a hut in the middle of our land which is some part of it was jungle. We've planed to planted some trees in our land. He doesn't smoke and drink but he can see in the dark at night in the jungle and he's quite expert on making things using some natural sources in the jungle, at his mid-60s he could make push ups in the banks of swift river and he could climb to the top of big tree. There is some photo of my father with beard and long hair along with his navy friends in an unknown place. He never told me about the duty.
May He rest in peace.
When you derive your sense of superiority from being a SEAL but still need to feel superior to other SEALs.
Wtf are you even talking about? He was a SEAL before he became a former wrestler (as well as a former Governor) which made him famous. Are you saying that someone being a former famous star in wrestling, as well as a former movie star, and then turning towards politics, being a former Minnesota Governor (etc.), (ALL of this) while also being a former SEAL, all of a sudden somehow makes one prejudice against other SEALs? Jesse's SEAL career is ENTIRELY different from the other things that he's accomplished. Rhetorical question, but was your head already up your own ass when that realization just passed you by?
Doesn't he mention he was a Seal almost every time you see him on camera?
He did earn the right to do so. Even Don Shipley concedes that he did the push-ups, he swam in the cold every other day, got wet and sandy, did the log PT, i don't know if he dealt with ol Misery, I'd think he did as most SEAL trainees do at least once, he endured the no sleep of Hell Week .
Like it or not, he earned the Trident of his day, they didnt have eagles on them back then.
@@chrismc410 yet he has claimed over and over he saw combat in Vietnam, he lied over and over. That's a pretty big deal
@@g1llifer he says Agent Orange exposure caused blood clots in his lungs which ended his wrestling career but he wasn't in Vietnam. Steroids did that. Also he claimed filming Predator have him flashbacks. Never in action. He insisted on filming that scene with Richard Chaves, a genuine humble Vietnam veteran.
Ventura enlisted into the United States Navy and joined the Underwater Demolition Team (UDT) after graduating from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) school. Ventura frequently references his military service in public, and a lawyer from San Diego criticized him for faking his claims of being a SEAL. Although Ventura never completed the extra 26 weeks of training to become a SEAL, the UDTs were broken apart and combined with the SEAL teams after Vietnam.
Typical Jesse, he speaks like a politician. Half facts and omissions. And yet so many think that he is something special. LOL!
Ventura is right. During Vietnam, hardly anybody even knew the SEAL's existed. And they were some of the deadliest operators in the theatre. Now they've gone Hollywood. In fact, all of SOCOM in this era are high profile now. But the SEAL's take it to another level. Right now, Delta is the most "mysterious" American special operations unit.
Give it time Delta Force will sell out to Hollywood.
I don't think these warriors sold out. It's our government, the civilian and top brass at the Pentagon that sold them out. Vietam, Iraq and how We left Afghanistan was an insult to these warriors. Let them tell their stories because We want to hear and honor them.
Interesting subject
Must drive Ventura nuts knowing Trump dodged more bullets and saw more combat than he did 😂.
Green Berets, the real quiet professionals.
Knew and hung around with a group of Seals during the Viet Nam era, they always said "we will never talk about what we do, it is our business alone and we expect the government to do the same" in other words don't say nothing about us and keep our deployments silent. They were the unknown warriors and liked it like that.
Damn straight.
This is exactly what got Chris Kyle killed. He created a company called Kraft International to train police, his charity work was related to the company. He had a problem when taking a solider w/ PTSD to the shooting range of texting his friend(s) that rode with them about how weird the solider w/ PTSD was. There was complete silence on these rides. The last one Chris took, the solider w/ PTSD wigged out and shot him and his friend Chad. If they would've engaged the solider they were trying to help instead of texting back n forth how weird he was I think Chris would be alive today. Can't imagine how awkward those rides for soldiers must have been. Total silence.
The "soldier" who murdered Chris and Chad had never seen combat. His PTSD experience was when he ran out of dope. Yipper, a doper murdered those 2 family men.
MARSOC are the real quiet professionals.
Swcc
Jesse is a cool guy. Big ego, but a guy you can reason with. He was a SEAL...that speaks volumes (sorry haters).
Dude...30k a year. Get real. This isn't 1965
I didn't know what a SEAL was until I played a video game called SOCOM
That's like the Airforce Tier 1 unit I think the 24th squadron? There is only a few hundred of them in existence they're on the same level as Delta but no one has ever heard about them or knows what they do or what their patch looks like.
None of that is true. The 24th is the elite of the air force.
Seals are the elite of the navy.
Rangers/berets are the elite of the army.
Delta is the elite of all those 3 elite combined. And I'm sure theres more elite then that, but there top secret.
Hold on, what about "Men with Green faces" and books like that? That was Vietnam era SEALS. Seems like he's still mad at Chris Kyle. And, I think it's great that the people write books, because it's a way of seeing whet they went through so hopefully no one goes through it again. You know, like History books do.
that book came out in 92 thats 30 years after vietnam dood
THE REAL SEAL TEAM 6 DIED OVER A FOREST IN AFGHANISTAN WHILE TRAVELING IN ONE SLOW MOVING TRANSPORT HELICOPTER WITHOUT APACHE AIR SUPPORT WHICH IS STANDARD PROCEDURE - MANY BELIEVED THEY WERE KILLED BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT THE TRUE IDENTITY OF OSAMA BIN LADEN AFTER ASSASINATING HIM IN PAKISTAN AND THE HOAX THAT SURROUNDS HIM - THEY GOT ELIMINATED - THESE SEALS HAVE LETDOWN MANY IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY FOR WRITING BOOKS AND MAKING MOVIES - IN SHORT THEY HAVE BROKEN THE CODE OF HONOR AND ARE THEMSELVES DISHONORABLE TO THEIR OWN TEAM MATES (Other seals)
theres no forest in AFG, only desert.
Beryllium even thou I don’t believe what he said Afghanistan has everything desert, mountain, Forrest and urban environments.
Beryllium are you that uneducated really? No forest in afg wtf seriously
Jesse is a hero, I look up to him, warriors know warriors from the door. There is so much unsaid. Yet listen well and grow strong.
when you brag about how you dont brag
I mean it is harder to brag about combat missions you didn't go on. So he does have that right.
Yeah.....they way tougher now than back in the olden days
The real silent professionals of each branch are SWCC (NSWC), CCT (AFSOC), 160th SOAR (USASOAC), CSO (MARSOC)
As an ex Special Forces Sailor, I 1000% agree with Jesse. And I was enlisted from 93 to 03
Careful that mite be highly sensitive even classified information that if the public was to Know cld.make the rest of America unsafe,,Lol.
There is no such thing as a Special Forces sailor. Special Forces is U.S. Army. U.S. Navy has Special Warfare. If you had served you would know this, phony bastard.
Shut up phony.
The US ARMY also has JFK Special Warfare Training Center.Fort Bragg N.C.Home of the Airborne and Special Forces.
brocksampson01 > Uh huh, in your CIA Phoenix program dreams!
Seals it's time to lay low again
Hes right
Mercs get $300K and also not held responsible like soldiers are when shit hits the fan
I don't know if Jesse been keeping up but there has been a few Seals from Vietnam era have wrote books about what happen on deployment.