Holy Grail 1984 Kramer Baretta
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Eric tells us about his true love. The original Kramer '84.
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I started playing in 1985. I was 15. I'd been playing for about 2.5 years when I met a kid who'd become a very good friend. He had been playing for a little over a year on an exact same Kramer. He was a complete virtuoso. Was unbelievable to see him progress day by day. He blew past me like a Top Fuel dragster. I played on that guitar daily but it wasn't like him. Within a year he was getting very proficient at all things Yngwie. It's been 35+ years and I still can't play Yngwie. Oh, well. There's always Poison. 😁
Just acquired a black first gen Baretta today. Original frets. Amazing guitar!
So glad these are making a comeback.. just the coolest guitars
100 % agreed such a versatile guitar for such a simple setup, I really appreciate that as a novice player.
Awesome guitar. I bought mine new with maple body literally the day the EVH ad came out. Had to wait weeks for it to arrive. Most expensive thing as a kid I ever bought. Still have it and still sounds great.
Funny thing about that advertisement, he didn’t play a Baretta. The guitar in that pic is not his 5150. The 5150 had a Pacer body, unslanted pickup, the neck was based on one of the Frankie necks, and the headstock was the banana based on his Destroyer, which itself was based on a Explorer. It most definitely was not a Baretta. The Kramer 84 is based on that 5150, not so much the Baretta.
i sure miss my several 85-87 barettas and both stagemasters
I have a ton I miss that I wish I wouldn't have sold. So I get that. For sure. - Eric
I was lying in bed, before my thought session, and I was thinking.....🤪🤪👍🏻👍🏻
Good to see you again Eric. Ernie Kaiser here. Still rockin my night swan
Hoping all is well, Mr. Kaiser!!!
Just the coolest guitar ever. I have an 84 Baretta but after they went to the tilted headstock, still has the heavy maple body and super wide nut. Would love to play a real grail someday!
I have the exact same guitar it's produced in 83 and a couple in 84. Mine is very lightly played no fret ware. But it is a yellow color from the paint fading it's never been around a cigarette ever
"They put no finish on these from the factory"
"they oil them"
I like the shorter headstock. Like the Baretta Vintage.
Glad you love Kramers. So do I!
I love allllll guitars. But Kramer bit me early on in my playing. Back then ALL my hero's played them. So I followed suit. - Eric
I have 2 focus guitars 2000 and 3000
That thing is amazing!!! The guitar is pretty cool too! 😂
Great Video, especially for a mostly talking guitar video. For such a historical guitar, I would have loved to see a little more of a Trogly's treatment with extreme close-up slow-mo of the entire guitar while you were talking. Awesome guitar!
I have a black one painted it white and found a new gen maple and put it on because i beat the frets.The original floyd still bounces like new.Bought it back in 1987 used brooklyn new york
Awesome old kramer Baretta..
I wish they would just go to your studio and take a tour of your Kramers all the Klein’s and what not
Very cool video.
YOU'RE cool, Stephen! - Eric
I ordered one of these when I was 16 and when it arrived the the headstock was just changed to a black pointy style. The guitar also had the wide neck, schaller tuners,maple body and came with a Duncan JB pickup. I remember waiting months for the guitar to arrive especially because I ordered it in white but it was an amazing guitar that I used for years and really regret selling it.
Eric is now my favorite person on youtube....he has that Dave Matthews humor....heavy metal fingers....what more could you want from a channel....
I'd like someone to bring me nachos while I watch. But not much more than that. - Eric
Very cool, managed to find a white Grail Focus in Japan recently.
I have a black Focus 1000 also with a non-tilt headstock. Great guitars! - Eric
Vintage chops on a great vintage axe. I subbed and liked.
Thanks, Jon! We look forward to talking with you in the comments! - Eric
this vid should have 100K plus views! (IMHO, titling it "holy grail kramer baretta" might get it there!) i would love to see more vids of this greatest of great guitars. thanks. much appreciated.
I don't mind giving it a shot! title changed. If you can spare a sec, share the video and let's see if we can get it there!
@@CAHouseMusic i am new to all of this and don't have any followers or anything--but i will do what i can. it will probably be a slow but steady accumulation. fingers crossed. very cool.
i added it as a link in my description below my one and only lonely vid post---. yours is a great vid in any case! thank you!
@@theomahaguitarguy thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying what we put out :-)
Eric can shred
Ehhh. It's passable. hahaha - Eric
Have you ever had the neck off? Mine has a date ending in 84 written in pencil on the heal of the neck. The only difference I see is mine has a trussrod cover on the headstock. These guitars with the golden 50 pickups has such a unique well-rounded but punchy sound. I love mine.
Awesome looking and sounding guitar 😎🤘 How about a video for the Baretta Vintage in Ruby RED? (or should we say PINK 😁👍) Really interesting in getting one but no ones done one yet. So maybe you guys could do one, be the first one, just saying.... 😏👌
As soon as we get one, I will. - Eric
Hey... If you dont need that red 84 Ill be happy to take that off your hands ;)
Well it is your lucky day. We sell guitars here. hahaha. And we have one. Call me at the store! - Eric
Cool seeing the OG Kramer. Those original Floyds were indestructible. How about an SM-1 run through?
We don't have one right now, but there is one on order and Eric said he'll do a video as soon as we get it in!
Thanks for watching!
Yeah, I’d like to see one on the SM-1, too. I wish they were making them in creme (like they were a few years ago). But I like the orange crush one.
Love your videos! 🤘
Guitarforce made an alnico 2 pickup called the erupter hot and bright,little more than a JB sh4
I just bought one at a pawnshop today for 160.00 it was miss marked
I got it my 2007 at music go round in Ohio 799. With case
Up til like 2002 the 85 86 were cheap used then they took off
I believe it is a Schaller pickup but I'm not taking mine out but I believe it is a schaller and is 12 k or something like that
The one Eddie is holding in that ad has the pickup further away from the floyd stud than the production models.
I tried The 84 (alder body) against the Barretta reissue (maple body). Both very nice, I have a slight preference for the 84 with the alder body, the tone is more “compressed” slightly on the Barretta reissue and lighter and more ergonomic on the 84. It stands up well to an EVH single pickup striped series and has a coil split. EVH 5150 has a neck pickup but no coil split. But...it’s made for a single style of music. The EVH 5150 series has a neck pickup. At the end of the day, my favorite was the original Pacer Deluxe HSS made in Neptune, NJ. I could get tones from EVH to Stevie Ray from it.
I have a Pacer deluxe as well that I really like. It is trans blue and black pickguard. It rips! - Eric
I had the red 84 musicyo reissue .took back to GC cause it had 3 bad frets
Why isn’t there a series of Eric showing off his axes?
I have spoken to the Kramer master and he said he would bring in another guitar on Thursday so we can shoot another video! If he forgets, LAUNCH THE COMPLAINTS (but just on here, plz hahahha)
Would like to see the comparison between the original and the new Baretta Vintage. The 84 is cool, but its different. Straight pickup and longer headstock.
Steve
The 84 is based on Eddie’s 5150 Kramer. The 5150 was not a Baretta.
Once upon the time I had both a production 84 nontilt and the prototype, that I purchased directly from Mike Mojabi. Mike has gotten it directly from Billy Connolly. Had to sell them both due to financial situation, would love to get another.
Those sound like GREAT guitars to have man. Also I see your user name. Is it related to a Fox body Mustang with custom Cams? Let me know! I have a 2004 Terminator Cobra with Todd Warren cams. If that is NOT what your user name references, then please disregard. hahah - Eric
How do you feel the new Kramer reissues compare to these originals?
They are different in many aspects. Kramer never calls these guitars "reissues" for that reason.
Ok... What's different? They look the same.
Steve
kinda wish current ones were pro quality like yours. although minus your guitar, vintage kramers aren't overly pricey.
I've been offered a car ,,cash,, fishing which I know I can get more cash the longer I hold out. Damn thing weighs about 10 pounds I mean heavy and sustains for minutes seems like.
They really blew it when they changed the body wood to Alder instead of maple like the original . If the 84 reissue came out with a maple body I'd buy a ton of them .
thank edward van halen for this gem of a guitar
After watching some vids of yours, I have a question. How difficult would it be to put a Floyd Rose in the Baretta special?
Extremely difficult. And time consuming. And costly. Get a Baretta Vintage. - Eric
Please tell me how this compares with the resiasue Red 84 in the background
If you watch the video for the red '84 that's exactly what I did. They're very different. - Eric
@@CAHouseMusic Will do. Thank you!!!
The proper headstock, right there. Don’t like the new ones. They look odd by comparison.
Agreed, we need the grail headstock back. This was the peak version of the banana head. The new ones are either too short and stumpy looking (ala the Baretta Vintage and Special) or TOO huge (ala the 84). GRANTED, the '84 is meant to be the EVH thing where his had that headstock but I just don't like it unless it's a 5150, then and only then is that huge headstock acceptable. In my own opinion, of course.
I just need to know if the floating nut on my guitar needs to be raised or if it’s just fine
If you look on yours The Floyd Rose had been tooled.
Nice job. What is the neck radius on both? Did not like the new wolfgang neck so much. just wandering the difference.
Maybe old barettas has 14 radius instead the new models that has 12
why dont kramer stick to tradition and call the reissue 84 a pacer that it is..no barettas came with non slant pickup
It isn't a "reissue" actually. And they simply called it an '84 and not a Baretta. You are correct. As I said in the video, it is actually based off of a "Pacer Special"
So is the 84 holy grail too? I thought 83 was the only one.
I have an original baretta I picked up used at a local guitar store back in 1991 for $150 with original hard shell case. I bought it because of well you know.. Eddie. The pickup wasn't original, had a duncan jb in it, found an original schaller pickup with the right date code. At the time I did t really like the cream color on it so I had it painted burgundy. Yeah dick move. Didn't know it was going to be worth good money later on. Its in perfect shape so some day I'll have it put back to its original color.
What year is that Baretta? Most of them came stock with a JB. Typically right after the Non-tilt Barettas, they went right to the JB. - Eric
@@CAHouseMusic its a 83-84 non-tilt headstock maple body and flat black floyed rose
@@milesfifer171 Excellent! Should be the Schaller Golden 50 as I'm sure you already well know. - Eric
@@milesfifer171 Good lord, imagine picking up an 83 Baretta for $150.. Wish I could go back to the early 90s!
I don't care for the new 84. Straight pickup and long headstock.
Start a show where Eric shows off one of his guitars bi weekly. DoEs Éric have any other 80s superstrats.
I do! I have some 80's/90's Ibanez RG 550's and the ilk. Great guitars! - Eric
@@CAHouseMusic Show them off and compare those RGs against the new RG 550s!
@@workingorder2189 We curretly don't have any of them in stock to compare. I really wanted to do a review of the Jem 777SK one that came out recently to see if it was like the one I used to have that I miss TERRIBLY
I actually own one of these first run Baretta’s (White with Black Hardware like the one you have) that I purchased from a Music Store here in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. I originally purchased it (with the original case) for $800 dollars in January of ‘84. But I’ve been toying with the idea of spray painting it to look like Eddie’s 5150 Kramer striped model from the 1984 / 5150 era. What do you think? Do you think that the value of it would increase or be hurt by me doing that? Interested in your opinion! Thanks in advance!
For the love of God please don’t do that to that guitar! To answer your question, yes it would drastically reduce the value. I honestly hope this is a troll post.
I DO NOT like the bigger banana headstocks. Ruins it for me. Are they 85 reissues? I like the maple fretboard but the headstock looks weird. This holy grail headstock is the shizzz