The Jordan Love experiment is a (total) Sh*t Show.
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The Jordan Love experiment is off to a terrible start, and to date, it’s been a complete sh*t show. The Packers started hot, then cooled off immediately, and after struggling against some of the worst defenses in the league, the 1 year Love experiment looks like it won’t last much longer than that. The Packers head coach Matt LaFleur has been forced to limit the offense and hold Love’s hand, but, when watching the film, that’s also exposed some of LaFleur’s weaknesses as well. What are Love’s weaknesses? What are LaFleur’s? This week’s episode uses the coaches all 22 to analyze the Packers offense with Quarterback Jordan Love and head coach Matt LaFleur.
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Idiot
It’s week 17. Jordan Love in the 2nd half is 1st in TD’s and passing yards. You owe this man a new video. This has aged poorly
Hindsight is 20/20. His assessment wasn't totally off, my thing is that people were already calling him a failure without giving him nearly enough time to.prove himself...
@@SuperPackerBOY Nonsense. This is a textbook example of why you dont condemn a player after 8 games. There was also a hell of a lot more going wrong than just Love. Lost half their starting offense by week 3 and was surrounded by rookies with even less experience than him. But all of it got blamed on Love. And when those young players started to figure it out, what happened? Love played out of his mind.
@williamhermann6635 one of the best coaching efforts I've seen in years. There was a year Tomlin brought the Steelers back from the dead. A year where Mike Shanan won the division with scrubs. Not a Lafleur fan, but huge kudos to him and the coaching staff. Love will be frustrating for you guys. Your Tony Romo. He'll be up and then down.
@@apollobernet Still no credit for Love lol.
Tell me you can't make basic observations or analyses without telling me 🥴
This aged nicely😂
This aged great didn’t it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No it did not
Wow, it's almost like it takes more than half a season to evaluate a QB and for the offense to develop.
😂😂😂😂
We need to run this back now that Love is playing well
You ain't too bright. They wons games despite him. This means Lafleur is figuring out how to have success despite him. Did you watch the video? Do you watch him play? All of this is still true. And it will continue to be. Watch every deep 9 route he has thrown this season, his wr has to stop every single time, dude. He is awful. The only way GB can have any success is if they scheme it. Most of this will come from first reads if Lafleur did a decent job. They gave you this info already in this video that you watched. Yes, he had some success, no, he is not playing well. Dude is the most limited qb that is the entrenched starter in the entire NFL not named Bryce Young.
What I'm describing is the exact same thing a coaching staff is tasked with when they have to start a backup. Very first read centric, a lot of screen passes, etc. They keep it vanilla and they 'hold the hand' of the qb so they can have some success. That does not mean they played good, it means they performed what they were asked to do and there is a massive difference.
@@raheppe you out here writing novels, I’m not reading that shit.
@@raheppeYou don't look to bright in hindsight 😭 I'd delete this shit.
@@deioncreapeau4610 I've watched every throw on the season. Dude is inaccurate, how dense are you? The throw that set up the game winning FG, the wr had to stop and wait, he had that corner beat by 2 YARDS, literally, then had to fight for a 50/50 ball and get lucky that they said he caught. You jacka$$. Hindsight proved me correct, AGAIN. Dude can't throw catchable passes downfield, you f'ing jacka$$. What even is your contention??? They won, so that means he is super accurate and this Rusty is wrong? WTF, you can't be that dense, right???
This aged well.... LOLOL
This season has shown that Rodgers really did carry this team for the past couple of seasons. Bad on offence with no real weapons, bad on defence. No real hope. Rodgers really masked the issues to the Packers front office could keep pretending they were doing fine. At least they will get a really high draft pick to spend on defence this year.
Same thing happened with Manning in Indianapolis
dude as much as I like Rodgers, he did not carry the team. No quarterbacks can. Is he a way better quarterback far in a different galaxy over Love? Yes without questions. Their defense wasn't even awful the past three seasons as they were pretty good playing up to their competition. Gotta allow room for quarterbacks to grow in this league. The guys they have on offense can definitely play too so let's not ignore that.
They're worse
@@PeanutButterAndJellyBrosNo Ive been at every Packer game as have a good friend that was in Front Office until this year when luckily he was promoted with another organization. Love is flat out terrible and it better cost Gutey his job because many in the Front Office wanted Pittman Jr or Higgins.
I think you nailed it on the head. I think that even Packers players got “lazy” a bit as they simply counted on Aaron Rodgers to jump off the bench and be Johnny on the Spot all the time. It might take the Packers awhile to realize themselves, “Aaron isn’t here anymore. Maybe we need to step up now.”
Dang. Another Packers video highlighting their problems and Joe Barry isn't a part of it? 😂
Bc surprisingly he’s not rlly an issue. It’s a revolving door of injuries in Defense and he is trying to innovate: just not in coverage, he is who he is coverage wise. His front on the other hand, it’s played well, but he gets too aggressive with those guys which gets him burned, and bc the secondary on the back end coverage can only do so much, that leads to his struggle. When the front does well, the defense does well.
When does Joe Barry defense ever get a stop when we actually need it? One score game we need a stop are you confident we get that stop?
People just look at points in a nutshell and think he's doin a good job. When you cant stop the run and you play ten yards off the WRs teams aren't gonna score 40. They are gonna go on long drives that bleed 8 mins off the clock. And teams are very content doin that
@@kghostthegreatNo he's definitely an issue. The problems are not all him because the defense has been getting injured. But he's still bad.
Joe Barry or Matt Canada... who gets canned first?
I'm no fan, but good luck finding a better DC...There are none. The Packers problem is their offense is too young (and Love's accuracy). They can't even score 20 points.
Here after the Packers just destroyed the Cowboys in the playoffs. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Who's here after Love outperformed Mahomes on Sunday Night game??
Matt LeFleur in his first year was being considered for NFL coach of the year ... when he had Rodgers and Adams. He will be lucky if he still has the job next year.
No coach in history could overcome a one read QB with severe accuracy issues. Zero.
Packers have always been afraid of change he won’t go anywhere until years after he shoulda been let go
Honestly his concepts and how he wants to call plays in sequence is pretty sound when its executed on the field. At the very least Rodgers abided with LaFleur's method and proved those results on the field as his receiver talents were diminishing. But his current QB can't even play under center with play action and its a feeling out process giving him ways to get 'easy' reads without an alpha WR. Even Watson himself whose 6'3" plays like a dude whose just a burner at 5'10" and can't moss a defender shorter than he is.
@@t4d0Wagree. If Watson isn’t running a fade or post he’s been useless. Very soft wr
I don’t really think its TheFlowers fault.
This video and your Dak Prescott video really aged well.
We are in a TicTok error and it shows people have no patience and need Satisfaction and Gratification now Love is a "Bust" This man bout to shock the world Go Pack Go
Packers wasted a few years of Super Bowl contention with this guy sitting on the bench instead of a stud that could’ve helped Rodgers. I get why Aaron left pissed.
Aaron did not leave pisses he left defeated and he also saw how bad the team was getting and saw he could not win a super bowl with these players. The Packers have been bad for 4 years now . Aaron Rodgers held them in the race and even gave them shots at truly big games . Without him this team is bad as Aaron was probably the only reason this team was competitive for most of the mans career. The Packers failed . I am a defender of the Packers brass in most cases . I like Draft and develop Gm mindset . It is a proven value when you have a coaching staff in place that does the work with the players to develop them. What we are seeing in Green Bay is a GM who drafts talent on ability . He expects they will be better NFL players than college because he thinks his coaches can build players who showed next to nothing in college . The development part has to start with a star player. Even the best college players need to be developed for the next level . Matt LaFleur believes the opposite of this . He coaches a hands off style. He teaches to allow the player to develop themselves and this causes what we see in Green Bay . A talented group who does not develop beyond their college game and even looks to decline in their prime years. Rashaan Gary should be the best edge in the game if he had anyone teaching him how to be dominate. They don't . They just let him figure it out himself and told what they wanted . If they took the time to coach him he would be the best edge in the game today. Say what you want about coach Mike McCarthy but he knew how to develop players and had his coaching staff set up to make players better. Matt LaFleur is not that guy. He was never a success at any coaching job he ever had despite his time when he had AAron coaching the team and was taking credit for it. Matt held this team out of the playoffs because he refused to trust Aaron in critical situations
@@jesusoftheapes I was a fan of Draft and and Develop with a mentally healthy Ted Thompson but never ever wanted Gutenkunst to follow him and neither did Ted Thompson. Now are seeing how awful this roster was built.
A stud that could've helped Rodgers? Aaron had literally THE BEST WR IN THE NFL. They had the number one offense in 2020 and his defense got 3 2nd half turnovers and Aaron converted those 3 turnovers into 3 POINTS.
@@saltyjordy Are you drunk? He took one of those picks and threw a TD to a scrap heap TE in Robert Tonyan. And if you think Tee Higgins wouldn't have made teams in the Playoffs pay for double and triple teaming their one great Weapon in D. Adams you are delusional.
It's hard to say. I really like Aaron but there were quite a few times in the playoffs where he just disappeared. He's like the anti-clutch guy weirdly, in spite of a couple incredible Hail Mary's in his career. He does that in the last seconds but when you need him to just make more average plays or get a first down in the playoffs, he struggled or flat out collapsed.
Would more playmakers help? Maybe. As a fan of the Steelers we *did* do that and it put the team in a bad spot. When they realized in late 2019 that it was Ben's last couple years, they panicked and tried to surround him with offensive playmakers to help him.
2020, #49 - WR Chase Claypool, over drafting Hurts as his replacement.
2021, #24 - RB Najee Harris, over the *desperate* need for OL help. Could've had [Eagles] Center Landon Dickerson to replace Pouncey. Or probably moved up one spot with the Vikings for Darrisaw. They literally did not draft a first round OL guy for 11 years. In the second round they spend #55 on TE Pat Friermuth, again, over taking [Chiefs] Center Creed Humphrey,
So there's three first/second round picks that are basically wasted. Steelers could've had 2 or 3 more OL pieces and had their OL set for the next decade. Instead they have one of the bottom 3 OLs, a RB who has basically been a first-round bust (not really his fault but whatever) and a TE who had a nice rookie season but has done little else and been oft-injured already.
I think it's a bad idea to panic and backload your team for a QB on their way out. And if you're thinking "Well, a good WR will just roll over for the next QB!", no, they often don't. And given how much money most want/demand you don't have the luxury of having them cheap for another 2-4 years while your rookie QB gets up to speed. Steelers were going to owe Claypool a ton of money at the end of this season and he accomplished nothing with Pickett. They're going to owe Najee a ton of money and I don't think he's had even a single individual *quarter* where he looked like a first round RB. Travis Etienne was taken one pick after him. Had the Packers done this for Aaron they'd be in the same spot.
A gunslinger from Utah State who struggled against mountain west defenses and amounted 30 ints against 60tds throughout his college career all of sudden struggles with decision making and doesnt know how to read defenses in the NFL? SHOCKING.
Hmm a gunslinger,where did I hear that before that played QB for Green Bay?
Should have been tee Higgins drafted but gutekunst is a terrible gm
20 TDs 17 INTs in 2019, his last college year. That's not good. At all.
@@VulcanLogic It's so funny because i went back and looked at some mock drafts from back then and in a lot of mock drafts Love was a projected first round pick. They all dismissed the high amount of INT's because a few players left Utah State and Love was only partly to blame for the INT's. One dude even wrote Love had a massive ceiling and would be a superstar if he could be developed.
@@JustGersie I suspect Love will be a superstar. He just needs receivers that run the proper route and catch the ball. He also needs some time... year 3, if he has good receivers, will be incredible.
In regards to the “motion” I was thinking the same thing. LeFleur is technically sending players in motion, but there’s seemingly no purpose since he’s not using a dynamic player (Reed or Watson) to maximize the concept.
You dont understand the point of motion. It isnt just to get one specific guy open. The point of motion is to cause the confusion for the defense which will hopefully lead to space for somebody to get open. Dolphins were spamming Ty Hill with presnap motion and it worked for a while but defenses figured it out. Packers have a complete offense that focuses on just throwing it to the open guy, not just spamming 1 player.
You raised an excellent point about the eye-foot unison that almost always gets overlooked by pundits who'd have as much luck describing a play call as they would thermodynamics. It's such an important concept that leads to so many problems from QBs, often young QBs, and I'm glad that you brought this up. Thank you.
For what its worth, I saw a bunch of dudes on ESPn talking about Love hopping around too. They commented about it at length. Either way, its a good point to bring up. Love's fundamentals are bad, even after 3 years to get them tight. This is a solid video.
"how chris olave sees other drivers" lmao
Didn’t expect that it took me out 💀
Aged really well lol 😭
Boy! I used to hate Aaron Rogers, but now I understand why he wanted the GM fired a few years ago. And now Rogers has become my new hero post COVID.
Apparently, you understood nothing.
Showing your brilliance there Alex Rollins.
You continue to evaluate NFL QBs after less that 20 starts and you will continue to look like a fool.
Love apologists treat him like he is a rookie and not in his fourth year. I get that there is still a learning curve but he should have some idea how to read defenses by now.
Love apoligists? No were realists. Hes 7 games into his fricken career. Get a grip.
This is his first year as a starter and all his receivers and tight needs are either rookies or second years. And his Oline is constantly getting injured. And the play calling is awful. Is he playing well? No, but they aren’t losing just because of him
Its his first full season as a starter and he hasn't even got through a season yet dummy.
@@williamhermann6635 he also had over three years to get his footwork down and know where the hot read is.
@@dmartig1 Hes played 7 games since 2019. Hes also surrounded by rookies who have no idea what theyre doing yet.
You conveniently didnt mention anything about the offensive line which has also caused a lot of problems for Love. He typically only has time for his first read. I agree his accuracy is an issue more than likely caused by footwork.
I just looked and Jordan has a 2.8 on his Time-to-Throw (TT) number. Not Russell-Wilson bad - Wilson is over 3 - but most QBs nowadays that succeed are no more than, oh, 2.65 worst-case I think. Trevor Lawrence is around 2.44 or so. But I think that Love has to own that TT number.
He invites pressure
Didn't get sacked at all versus the Broncos and played terribly. He lacks confidence, the ability to read the field, accuracy, and consistency. Needs to get it together. People get angry when others discuss giving Clifford an opportunity, but they need to ask themselves honestly... What do we have to lose? A few more games later, they really should consider it. The playoffs aren't happening. That's ffs.
If Love plays like crap against the Vikings and they lose because of him...then Clifford deserves his shot.
@@user-iq6cc3df3l 2 weeks ago Love was Top 8 or Top 5 in the NFL for time to throw and he still didnt look good.
It's a disaster. In the longrun I hope I'm wrong but outside of looking to replace him idk how they fix this. Matt Lafleur isn't making it any better with his sketcy playcalling either.
Yeah you were dead wrong.
@williamhermann6635 glad I was. Do you want a cookie? Tf out of here
Our boy Alex been taking some shots this year at people and teams!! We got a spicy Alex for season 104, love it! 😊
He's an asshole. We don't need fans like him.
I used to know this football coach who talked about a quarterback who has “Happy Feet.” It’s basically bouncing up and down waiting to throw and it looks like Jordan has a tendency to do this. I would imagine that it could make it difficult to fire at will - a guy comes open maybe or maybe you need to throw with anticipation but you can’t right away because you need to reset your feet first. As a counter example if you watch Brock Purdy - yes he’s lost two in a row and only one might be on him - he tends to have really calm feet in the pocket although he can launch one off his back foot if his blocking breaks down. I think you had a video on Brock a few weeks ago showing it. But if you watch Jordan throw, a lot of that looks good and I think his drop looks good too. But maybe if I’m right, and he has Happy Feet, maybe he just needs to calm those feet down a bit. Just a thought. (It’s funny. I wrote my comment about halfway in then you make a similar comment and stole my thunder.)
Brock Purdy has the best supportung cast in football im sure Jordan faires better without all the spacing issues and drops and softness at the catch point. Hes got things he can be better at yes. But he never came out and called Aaron Rodger 2022 team a shit show..and pointed out all his misses and inadequacies
@@benjaminbrown3951I think you might be right about Brock although Deebo has been out. That’s like losing 1.5 players. Deebo, I think, is really important to that offense as he puts the Fear of God into the defense I’ll bet. I’m not really a 49ers fan though although I like Brock even though, ironically, he’s not my style of QB usually. I like QBs like Rodgers, Marino and Phillip Rivers - quick-release guys that one scout calls “punchers.” (That scout calls QBs like Purdy more like “launchers” and QBs like Randall Cunningham “slingers.” I think they’re great descriptors.)
I call it River Dance scrambling
Believe it or not, there is no "definitive" way to throw a football. Yes there are proven techniques, footwork, handling, etc, but they don't account natural talent. Brett farve was actually passed on by a lot of teams simply because his form was so different and unique from what they were used to couching. I really do believe Love will end up showing out and being a great QB, I am just hopeful the happens with the packers and we don't trade him in a panic.
@@Pyfer What value does he offer as a trade asset now? Little to none considering he was a first round pick. If he does manage to turn it around the next 7 games I don't think it would be smart for the Packers to offer him a multi-year deal like the Giants did for Daniel Jones. 5th year option would be the optimal deal to see if he can continue finding success the year before. If he bet on himself then its a benefit for him and the Packers org. Otherwise Packers can move on to find a proven young QB to play along an equally young receiver core.
Rodgers was the only reason the Packers were above 500 the past few seasons.
Bet you feel like a dumb fuck now
Is that why the Packers just won 9 games and became the youngest team to win a playoff game in modern football history? Oh how I love the internet. It keeps receipts for everything.
This hasn’t aged well!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Dude had 1 decent game against the BEARS. And people were ready to crown him the heir apparent to Rodgers. It set him up for failure man
He was crowned "the heir apparent" the day he was drafted. This is what you call "entitlement". He hasn't been seriously challenged for his spot on the team, even though there have been other quarterbacks who outperformed him during training camp and the preseason.
**** take
@@tomcollins5112No that is what you call commitment. Packers committed to Love's development just like they did with Rodgers and Favre.
@@williamhermann6635 Dude, Kurt Benkert played better than him one preseason. And Kurt is an XFL quarterback today. This goes beyond "commitment".
Jordan Love didn’t have a decent game against the Bears the Bears had a terrible game. They were it prepared to play that game. Lotsa coaching mistakes and with Justin Feilds you can’t design your offense and expect Feilds to master it. You design your offense to utilize Fields abilities. Bears are starting to figure that out
alex, you said it so yourself, he’s been with the team for 4 years. and out of those 4 years, he barely got on the field. he’s basiclly starting from the beginning. i’m no packers fan, but i certainly understand certain situations are placed. and don’t forget, he wasn’t a top tier QB in college. he was also know to throw more interceptions than touchdowns
So it’s cool that he learned NOTHING in four years ?
Yeah nah man. If he’s been sitting for four years with minimal playing time, he’s probably garbage.
Welcome to the modern NFL where reps are important for young QBs. This isn't the old days like some old fans love to romanticize where a young QB has to automatically sit behind some vet to soak up experience and then ball out when the time comes. The lack of reps may have saved Love from scrutiny but screwed him from a situation where he needs to be a better decision maker for.
To sit 3 years and still this bad is Love being trash.
lol never comment again clown
aged like milk in the summer
@@sherwood1897 lol
This Video is still up? lmao
right?? Hate that they lost, but they went down swinging.
Who's here after the Packers beat the Chiefs to win their third straight with Love throwing dimes?
Jordan Love isn't the problem to me, he's a QB that's been on the bench for 3 years and he's playing like it. Even Rodgers had growing pans his first year as a starter but at least he had an experienced group of receivers to help him out, Jordan Love doesn't have that. This was Rodgers' biggest problem with Green Bay when he left and it's biting them now, they need more weapons at wide receiver. They haven't used a first round pick on a receiver in recent years despite all the talent at the position, they had Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers and they were happy with that. When Adams left we saw Rodgers struggle last year, when Rodgers had nothing he knew he could at least throw it up to Adams. Adams is a sure route runner and a reliable target who rarely drops a pass and Rodgers appreciated him because he knew that he could always rely on him, when he lost that receiver he had the most chemistry with the problems with Green Bay's offense became harder to ignore. Now without Rodgers' experience it's even harder to ignore than before.
The Packers have a good team overall, but they are too inexperienced at key positions if they had better receiving options for Love to build chemistry with they would probably be winning games despite his growing pains but they have no first round talent at the position and they haven't brought in any vets to help out the team in the short term. With the way the Packers have built this team it is essentially the blind leading the blind and that's why Rodgers wanted to get out, he knew even he couldn't succeed with the offense as it is currently constructed.
I personally think it's best to stick with the group we have and let them become experienced players together. When you have continuity in an offense full of talented players that all grew in the offense and developed together that could be dangerous
Totally agree and with the video you use I finally get to see the whole field and issues. Thanks a ton new subscriber 👍🏼. I’ve been saying this year that I’m hopeful but not optimistic…now I’m just not optimistic anybody can stop this spiral 😩
utah state product late 1st round pick about what you'd expect out of him
I didn’t pick him
Don't quit your dayjob alex rollins 😂
Aaron rodgers corrected many of this before snapping the ball
You should really make videos after the season cause stuff like this makes you you crazy
I know it's not a popular position, but I think TE's are the most important weapon on offense today. Between gronk and kelce, you would think coaches would figure this out. No tight-end... no dynasty. I would like to see a video on Sam LaPorta from the Lions. Best New player at the most important position on offense. (Besides QB of course)
Laporta isnt really good tbh. Has to be schemed wide open his blocking is so hit or miss and its mostly miss he has a limited upside and hes such a volume/scheme merchant
The only thing he does effectively is yac and guess what! Hes not even doing that recently
@Aburner960 he's a rookie, and he is second best in the league behind kelce in yards. Explain to me how that isn't good? Other tight-ends are HORRIBLE this season then I guess 🤷♂️
@@Aburner960if laporta isnt up to your TE standards i'd like to see who is lol
I just had this conversation with my big cousin … I would value a TE over receiver all day. … when Belicheck had the two TE system to me is when the Patriots had their best offense
I still think Musgrave could be really good. He's faster than a lot of receivers and has great ball skills. Just needs to stop running wrong routes.
Packers management have too much invested in Love. They know they're going to look like fools for trading up to take him in the draft and are trying to salvage their reputation by any means. Its going to be the season of spin coming from the front office but it will do nothing to absolve them from the fact that 3 years behind AR his fundamentals should be down pat, his accuracy should be sharp and his evaluation should be so specific that they know what he can and cant do. This is lazy coaching at its finest.
Probably. A good counter example is Kyle and Lynch in SF. It looks like they reached on Trey Lance but implicitly admitted it by trading him. But then again Brock Purdy softened the blow. Man, if Brock hadn’t been playing so well maybe both Kyle and Lynch get s-t canned. (Brock has lost two in a row but the first one I believe he got them in field goal range and the kicker gagged on a 40 yarder. The Vikings game I’ll blame Brock as he threw two bad picks. But the whole 49er team underperformed in the Vikings game really.)
I mean the investment at best is this year and if he balls out, a 5th year option. If he somehow finishes the season well and that convinces Gutenkunst to give him a multi-year deal, he is making the same mistake Joe Schoen of the Giants did paying out DJ after his 4th year. The point of being able to nab a QB in the first round is the value you get from them if they turn out to be a franchise caliber player. And the franchise has 4 years and a 5th yr option as a 1st round selected player to have the opportunity to see that. Its ironic teams sometimes won't use that PO on an important position but will easily balk on using that on a first round RB that has wildly played above expectations.
You were saying? As it turns out, heavily investing in the quarterback position is a good thing. Packer fans should know that better than any other fan base and yet here we are.
@@t4d0W 4 months later, Love's about to get $50 mil/yr cuz hes a baller and all the haters were wrong.
You are 100% correct. Jordon Love is not an NFL Quarterback. Clearly, he can't throw accurate and he does not make his reads right. The Packers are going no where soon.
Exactly!! Jordan Love should be cut immediately! HE IS NOT AN NFL QB!!!!!!
@@KathyFree-dz1dm ikr that fraud needs to be traded to the cowboys this offseason!!
Anders Carlson Moment
this isn’t aging well. Do you wonder why fans question the integrity of these insinuations 77% completion rate. No O since the 1990 Browns is as young as GB. You guys act like #12 was the only change.
4 drives stalled near or past midfield by 2 penalties and 2 fumbles, Another mercy kneel down at LA13 (1st down) just under 2 minutes to go. Plus a missed FG.
He's not throwing from a base. Why is He throwing from so many 3 step drops when the routes the receivers have clearly require 5 steps ? It's v step, cross step hop hop, take off. Somebody needs to put on that classic Bill Walsh Video for him.
I think you might be right.
@@user-iq6cc3df3l These experiments with the dual threat guys wont last, because they are at their core runners. Ground patient zero is Jalen Hurts. These guys will read their first option and if it's not there.....THEY RUN. Hurts reads Brown and if Brown is covered He runs. Love has no number 1 receiver so he's not patient enough to let guys work their routes. All of that jumping around is all backwards. His eyes should be jumping around to find the open receiver and not his feet.
@@sionrouge1697Jalen can throw tho and he’s accurate especially deep
@@KevonDaDon He has happy feet too. He's had operations on booth ankles and that's why they have tried to make him less rpo and more of a passer.
@@sionrouge1697 Its not all that bad if the scrambles can still get efficient yardage. Especially sprinkled with QB designed runs. But Hurts as a runner is also in a different stratosphere to guys like Love or athletic QBs who can tail it. Plus as mentioned Hurts has a great deep ball so if you get the right athletes, 989 routes can work.
This has not aged well......................
I’d like to know what kind of effective offense you can design around Jordan Love?
The Packers franchise QB streak is officially *DONE.*
Please don't jinx it. 😂. JL hasn't been good lately but he might make a jump next year.
Why do I see you comment on every football vid bruh
Yeah lets give up on a guy 7 games into his career. Casual.
@@maskedman5657Theres 11 games left. He could still break out this year. Everybody writing him off so quickly are morons.
@@williamhermann6635let’s examine this with a little intelligence. In the 10 games Jordan Love played in prior to this season , Love was 50/83 for 606 yards 3 touchdowns and 3 interceptions for a quarterback rating of 79.7. At what point do you want to use a little common sense and realize that Love is not the HOF quarterback that you Packer fans think you deserve. Farve is gone Rodgers is gone. Welcome to quarterback mediocrity for years to come
He looks clearly uncomfortable and he definitely panics. It’s gonna be a rough year for my packers.
Tank for Drake . There is one way out of this and it starts by getting a top talent at QB . There is no salvaging Jordan Love . Even if he has a game or two of good play he will never have NFL accuracy . He is not good at seeing the field fast and that just makes for boring QB play and a lot of nothing happening on offense. The Packers should now pull the plug . Send Jordan to the XFL/USFL minor league system to get faster with his reads while not hurting the Packers in real time. I know Alex McGough became a viable NFL star by playing in the USFL and I think it would do Jordan a world of good. It is what this league is now for. Plus I want to see what Sean can do at QB . He is the fastest guy in the backfield with a better time than any of the current RBs so at least and would be fun to watch his version of the Packers struggling. I do not believe Sean Clifford would make this look to hard.
@@jesusoftheapes You don't know football.
@@jesusoftheapes holy shit what a horrible take LMAO
Time traveler from the future here: it's going to be fine.
I’m glad Jordan turned it around! He’s seeing the field and being decisive
Oops
One of my friends and I created a "Gutey's got to go t-shirt" after Jordan Love was drafted because were we so sick of his terrible draft picks. Only four of Gutekunst's first 19 draft picks are still on the team and one of them is on injured reserve. Keep in mind that Gutekunst actually traded up to get Love even though nobody else wanted him. Instead, he could have helped the defense by drafting Patrick Queen.
Should have been tee higgins queen literally on his last year as a raven i’ll buy a shirt tho
And if he really wanted a QB that bad, he could have taken Jalen Hurts. But alas, Gutey wanted the guy who led the NCAA in interceptions
Wow.. I feel like we have some solid players on both sides of the ball. Young and inexperienced but players you think will develop nicely in a year or two. I haven't seen a list of draft pics drafted by Gutey lately but four of 19 is terrible.
@@nostalgicsound that’s the problem though big dog. Drafting guys you think can develop instead of taking a good prospect just strictly drafting off athletic tools never works out. Also you ever get a chance to look at the picks look at all who Gute has passed up on or superstars he’s passed up and lowballed on like OBJ, Stephon Gilmore, JJ Watt, Julio Jones, etc. all expressed interest saying they wanted to play for Green Bay but Gute is terrible
@@JohnnyAllenwrenchso is Higgins lol, we coulda also had Michael Pittman or Jonathan Taylor😫
As I personally see it, he has all the awful decision making of Jameis Winston and none of the talent. I legitimately have no idea what the Packers saw in him or why they picked him so high.
this is so wrong on so many levels
@@redx4361 As Alex pointed out, his accuracy is ass, his decision making is terrible, and his mechanics are a mess. He had one good year at Utah State followed by a year where he threw 17 interceptions. There’s a video on RUclips that shows all 17, watch that and tell me what part of any of that screams good QB? He wasn’t a good prospect who was then over drafted and he’s in a bad situation which only makes his weaknesses stick out more.
@@dabbingtoast7743 People never watched Rodgers or even Favre during their first year starting, I guess. Both those guys missed a lot of throws early in their career, or had throws that were just off but hauled in by a good veteran receiver supporting cast. Love doesn’t have that luxury, the young wr’s are putting him in even worse spots so the problem is magnified. Love is working in an offense where both tackles, the entire receiving corps, the starting center and starting right guard don’t have even 3 years in this league. All of that in Love’s first year is prone to come with miscommunications on pass pro and route running which we’ve seen happen to the Packers far too often this season. It looks worse than what it really is because the entire situation around him is really bad with a ton of young mistakes, including Love’s. Play calling is god awful for such a young offense, and it took 7 weeks to see an actual decent workload by runningbacks on the roster, which put Love into a lot of series where play calling was “pass, pass, pass”. Young QB’s should never be asked to carry an offense, that is another reason these problems are magnified. You can’t ask a first year starter to come into a pass happy scheme with little to no help from the OL or WR and expect any QB to do well. Quite frankly, this schedule hasn’t helped either. The Packers went from a thursday night game, to a monday night game, to a bye week this early in the season, while almost every other team was playing weekly on sunday’s, which allowed other teams to maintain a rhythm, while such a young Packers offense got an early vacation all things considered. Instead of judging the guy off his college career, you should watch how he plays the next several weeks which are all sunday games, he’ll finally be getting consistent reps in game for the first time this season. Don’t even get me started on the lack of play action, making the offense even more vanilla and simplifying things for defenses against a young offense. Or how the defense constantly lets other teams run the ball on them so that they can’t get on field and build a rhythm, those are all factors.
Tried to tell you 🤷
For this entire soap opera to end well, Love needed to work out. The team, organization, hall of fame QB and fan base all went through hell because the GM took Love. For that massive miscalculation, he should be fired. I think needs to be treated like cancer and EVERYONE that had anything to do with drafting Jordan Love should be fired. Murphy, Gute, LaFleur and Jordan Love should all be gone. That's the only way we all move forward. Clean slate.
Bruh no one comes in and succeeds with this team 1st year, love has issues but isnt thee issue, wrs running wroung routes, poor run blocking, wrs dropping, very poor play calling, hell jordan has similar stats to rodgers from last year just a few more ints, thats insane to see.
I remember being subscribed to you. Videos like this are why your channel never really grows. You already have a conclusion in mind and try to find “facts” to support it rather than the other way around.
Unfortunately for Love it’s not like he got to learn from a guy with great mechanics in the first place.
However after 4 years behind Aaron Rodgers he should be able to read defenses.
You try reading defenses with no time to throw and nobody open.
That Chris olave joke had me dying
Brian Gutekunst should be FIRED!!! that man has been picking nothing but Defense in the first round and never has a TOP 10 Defense. Has always had a horrible RUN BLOCK DEFENSE. And the one first round offensive weapon that he has chosen has not been a hit. On top of that HE MOVED UP to get him and traded away picks to get him. Jordan Love would've still been available in the second round. IF JALEN HURTS was still available in the second round, than Jordan Love that came from a GARBAGE collge conference and played against no real opponents would've definitely still be in the second round.
Whoops… this aged pretty quickly
I owe Matt LeFleur an apology for the criticism I’ve sent his way…Jordan Love is NOT good 🤦🏻♂️
No you don’t. They are both total bums.
This aged well lol. He watched this and said “I’m gonna prove you wrong, hater”
1st half Vikings game: Another GB first half sh!t show. Inaccurate passing, missed blocks, penalties.
You know, I think having Aaron Rodgers be the Packers quarterback for so long might’ve been a bad thing. Aaron, in his prime, was maybe the best passer ever. He has a quick release and a strong arm - some QBs have one but having both is rare for technical reasons (if you have a quick release it means the ball is in your hand a shorter amount of time through your motion meaning that it requires extreme acceleration to hit a high speed) - he has a killer spiral, he’s accurate and he throws so well off-platform. But I think the Packers got a little lazy and they used Aaron as a crutch. Now some new guy comes in and there’s no way he’ll be as good as Aaron but the rest of the team maybe hasn’t stepped up like they need to. As a side note I actually wrote two or three years ago that the Packers should trade Rodgers, not because he was bad - far from it - but because he was so good but with a limited shelf life and his trade value would never be higher. (I said the same thing about Adrian Peterson in his prime and people thought it was crazy. Well, he was suspended the following season which partially made me right. But while Adrian still tad moments he had peaked.)
Exactly, they had the 49ers trade up package and the broncos russ package available to them and now wont even get a frp lol. The mismanagement of our assets the last few years has been horrifying. They couldnt decide if to go all in or commit to a rebuild, likely because they knew it would end up similarly to this after drafting love.
Jordan love jsut out played Mahomes 😂
So many Packer fans were excited for Rodgers to leave so Matt could UNLEASH his real offense without Rodgers messing with it. Huh.
😂 😂 😂
Yes the offense looks awful 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@KathyFree-dz1dm It looks so much better!
Lol this didn't age well
Jordan Love has a special arm. He's going to be fine. You're going away. You do not know what you are discussing. Kurt Warner does. Kurt Warner believes Jordan will be fine. I do too. You...I can't make any promises.
You're looking like a fool right now. 😂
Love is not the problem if you actually do some study. O-Line is not the least talented but easily the worst in the NFL. Missed blocks, poor foot work, and costly penalties. WRs and TEs drop passes, and have no veteran to lead them. Defense doesn’t play complimentary football.
If Love has been sitting on the bench for 4 years. Then it's Lefluer and the QB coach's fault that they didn't coach him up enough.
Or he’s just not coachable. The fact that his mechanics are getting worse this season isn’t always on a coaching staff.he’s probably freaking out that he’s not playing well, and his structure/mechanics are eroding.
The Packers went all-in the last 2 years with Rodgers. This is what you get after you go all-in... inexperienced nobodies playing most every position. Love has potential, but the team lacks talent and experience. And the highest paid players on the team (Savage, Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Kenny Clark, Preston Smith) have underwhelmed. Name the best QB in the NFL... they would suck playing for the Packers.
What I no for a fact is this. It’s the coaches play calling. Point blink. It’s so basic. And you must play to your QBs strength and cover up his weakness. He needs to be on the move.
Can somebody tell me who was the next HOF QB after Montana and Young for the 49ers ? Thank you.
When I watch the Packers and Steelers I see a lot of familiar points. Historic teams who have floated their coaches on elite talent carrying mediocre rosters to respectable records only to be vastly out coached by great teams and owners or lack of owners to fire GMs and Coach's that at their peak have a very low chance of getting past a wildcard game. They are praised for their glory days of wasting elite talent (Rodgers, triple B's) but still get treated like they aren't a clear part of the problem. They refuse to fire bad OCs and DCs and for that they will now lay in mediocrity for seemingly eternity.
how we feeling now?
Tim Wakefield had better control of his knuckleball than Love’s accuracy with a football.
I don’t know who Tim Wakefield is but I’m guessing he’s a pitcher. Funny joke though.
@@user-iq6cc3df3lA recently passed knuckleball pitcher. Knuckleball is a pitch that is designated for erratic and unpredictable movement due to its lack of spin. The seams on the ball would create turbulence, and even slight variance of spinning speed, seam orientation would result in unpredictable altercation of path. Hence, the pitcher can’t really control where the pitch would go, a true pitch of chaos.
@@user-iq6cc3df3lin short, if you have control that is worse than a knuckleballer, which by definition is randomness, that’s pretty bad.😅
38-20
I know the BEARS FAN isn’t speaking right now 🗣️🔇
The Olave joke 😂
Gutekunst and and the whole coaching staff need to go. The Packers are a sh*t show and one that was so easy to see coming yet everyone wanted to run right off the cliff to "see what we have in Jordan Love!" Nothing! That's what we have. If the front office had an ounce of confidence in Love they would never EVER have signed Rodgers to that last cap crippling contract nor would they have signed Love to a one year prove it deal.
Remember this Packers fans, Gutekunst and Lafluer stood in front of us and lied their asses off repeatedly about Love "being ready to be a starting QB." Lied because they ran Rodgers out of town over Gute's hurt feelings that Rodgers didn't text him enough in the off season (I wish I was joking or even exaggerating).
Also Rodgers injury blew up in their faces. When Love fails and the team flounders to a top ten pick, they hoped to trade their own and the Jets 1st round pick for Rodgers to trade up for a QB. Oops.
Shit looks pretty good to me so far.
Might want to delete this before too many people see. Freezing Cold Take
Underrated Chris Olave joke xd
0:26 I thought the key word was coming in 😂
You not just owe this man a new big, but an apology as well.
as a packers fan this just makes me sad
As an ex packers fan (team Rodgers), it will literally take the packers imploding multiple seasons before the fanbase wises up and realizes this isn’t the right way to build a team. Most of the fans supported gute the whole way (who never gave anyone a reason to trust him) so they should just blindly accept J love as their qb. I mean they closed a Super Bowl window for this.
@@jakeharman1592 Cya, loser. Packer fans dont miss you. Enjoy watching your washed up, drugged out, wannabe politician continue to crash and burn.
This has aged horribly. Love looks like a franchise QB about to enter his prime. 😂
The Packers are now officially the ‘99 49ers. Welcome to QB hell for the next 20 years lol
Womp womp womp
LMAO THE OLAVE STRAY 9:33
Maybe he’ll peak at a different time. Not all quarterbacks are gonna peak immediately.
I think you might be right. Jordan has played so little, and Aaron Rodgers isn’t the mentor type, that it’s really like Love is a rookie. (Supposedly Aaron has worked with Zach but it’s not Aaron’s normal MO.). Jordan definitely has to fix a couple things but he does have some positives. It looks like he has a pretty strong arm - I don’t have a number on him but I’m guessing he’s 57+ MPH from video - he has a good release - probably mud-0.3s but I’m guessing there too - and he’s no dummy. But I think Packers fans need to give him the year and see how he does.
Im ok with the 2-4 start. As a packers fan, we have gotten so use to continued success (during the season and not post season 😭) that we forget most players take some time to find their groove. I'm not even close to sounding the alarm bells. If we are like 3-9 then I'll start to be concerned
@@user-iq6cc3df3ldo you know that Aaron isn’t a mentor type? Or are you just giving your personal opinion because you can’t just say stuff like that without knowing
Thing is ideally you want your QBs peaking before their 2nd contract. Which is the advantage of the Packers drafting Love in the 1st round so they have a total of 5 years (5th being a franchise tag) to see if he's the long term franchise QB worth that second deal.
@@alexklubertanz6291whoa we are gonna win another game... awesome.
These breakdowns are so deep!
Sounds more like a compounding problem. Good mention on the play calling since LaFleur is a play action guy but he's put his QB in bad situations with it. Especially when the snapshot pre-snap doesn't match post snap and he's just stuck on one read anyway. Not to mention the receiver group is also very young so they aren't going to be as consistent regardless of how talented they are. Too many plays going on Dillon too which is confusing. Plus without Rodgers' veteran presence on calling protection, someone (OC or whoever) has to step up to make the O-line play more stable than they are now. I feel like I'm not surprised that both QB and OC are having this feeling out process with their first real season with each other.
Lol they drafted love instead of helping Rodgers… that says it all
The NFL needs to allow teams to loan players out like they do in soccer. Like let Jordan Love play last season with the Panthers just to get some extra reps. An example this season could be the Titans loaning Will Levis to the Cardinals
Nah the NFL needs a developmental league like they had in NFL Europe loaning players out would jus help other teams there really isn’t enough teams to do so or leagues in soccer you have : La Liga, The Prem, Seria A , with all their teams and more and the NFL is just the NFL
That’s an interesting idea. Maybe it would be good for both teams and the player too. I’m not sure how well it works in soccer.
What happens when the loaner gets injured? You get the broken parts back with some kind of compensation or what?
Aged like fine milk
I'm ready for Sean Clifford. Then top 5 QB pick in the draft.
this chris olave line 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not sure how you scheme for a QB that can only read his first option and can't hit it with any accuracy.
Love Stinks
The oline has been bad. The route running has been exceptionally bad. And the injuries have been downright annoying. Just pump the brakes a bit.
The problem is Jordan Love is a 4th year player in his rookie season. The Packers could have and should have played Jordan Love over the prior 3 seasons to get an assessment of his skill level in real games, gain experience with reps and have the opportunity to keep or trade him before Aaron Rodgers was gone. During the past 3 seasons, there were plenty of times when the Packers were comfortably in command and could have easily given Jordan Love some playing time. But LaFleur didn't have the balls to stand up to Aaron Rodgers and god forbid, the Packers should ever take away from his playing time and stats. Now you have a 4th year player that is a true rookie because he never played, a horse shit offensive line, and a head coach that doesn't want to use Aaron Jones in the running game to take the pressure off Jordan Love......and this is the 100% predictable train wreck everyone saw coming 3 to 4 years ago.
Just do the math. The probability that the Packers were going to have 40+ years of elite QB's was astronomically low, virtually impossible.
Well, this didn’t age well.
Love Shove