I you could keep only one of these 3 scenes, which ones would you keep? I'd keep n°3. I also really like n°1 but I feel n°3 was really the ONE scene that should have been left as it was, not shortened and moved to after the throne scene.
I would have kept the 1st scene. I do agree that the when we do not see him gaining the throne unintentionally it changes the movie a lot, but it is revealed at the end that he only wanted to be Thor's equal. Somehow I think that somewhere watched this movie and said hey we need to have a "bad guy" so some of these scenes that make Loki more complex were left. I still love the movie, but if all of these were kept I would be even happier... At least we saw them. And it only strengthened our opinion about him and his motivation. Thanks for great insight. Love watching your videos. Only started so can't wait to see them all!
I agree. Scene 1 is very cute, but it is in 3 that there is so much plot meaning that changes and explains something. But this way Loki looks less of a villain, so it's understandable why it was cut out :((
I would also add for Scene 1 that Loki could be reacting to the servant's laugh. For most monarchies, servants could be severely punished for laughing at royalty, and it adds to the suggestion that Loki wasn't very well respected in Asgard.
He's definitely reacting to the servant's laugh, yes, no doubt about it! I agree, that was yet another element that showed how little respect he got from everyone at court, including servants... The big issue is that they never let us know exactly why he was treated so poorly by everyone. Whether it was just prejudice, or the result of his own attitude, or (most probably) a combination of both...
@@lottietalkie3142 I think that during loki's childhood he always wondered why he didn't feel like he belonged in the family, and the fact that he was adopted confirmed that for him, and his anger was magnified
Exactly. In the first Thor movie until DW I felt that Loki was very bizarrely bullied by people. He was treated with indifference, like a guest, a strange visitor with a VIP card. It really made me uncomfortable to see him being judged, and having those expressions of sadness and hate on his face.
Is it just me that any deleted scenes that don’t directly affect major plot events are immediately headcanon? All of these exist in my mind still and they are GLORIOUS SCENES that were BEYOND WORTHY of the film
I'm so glad you did this! The deletion of these scenes have bothered me for years! In the scene where Odin is asleep and the guard brings Gungnir to Loki: Loki looks so uncertain, confirming that he didn't necessarily want to rule. That and Tom Hiddleston has more acting talent in his eyebrow than most actors have in their whole body. I'm not 100% convinced that Loki was really doing anything dastardly with ruining Thor's coronation or convincing Thor to go to Jotunheim. I really believe that Loki's intent was to show Thor as the blustering, headstrong jerk that he actually was. Odin obviously had a massive blind spot when it came to Thor. Odin needed to see Thor as he actually was. If the guard had informed Odin of Thor's plan to go to Jotunheim in a timely manner, it's very likely that Thor would have been prevented from going, been chastised and learned a lesson. Odin would have very likely put off the coronation for a few years until Thor matured and would actually be a decent king. I think that Marvel didn't have much faith that the first Thor movie would be as good (since Chris and Tom were relative unknowns at that time) as it was and thought that cutting "unnecessary" scenes would make it better. Boy, were they wrong!
You're very wecome! And I think that's a great point about Marvel not trusting this movie enough to allow Branagh to make a longer movie. Throughout the commentary, I felt he himself wasn't really convinced by his own explanations as to why he cut those scenes. Felt like there were other constraints he couldn't mention. Regarding Loki's motivations, I really think they are a mix of reasonable, perfectly justified concern about Thor's ability to rule, and much more selfish reasons. I think that's what makes him fascinating: he almost always has complex motivations. IMO, it is too generous to think he was only motivated by the good of Asgard. He wasn't planning to steal the throne in this way, but his jealousy was still a factor, and he kind of hides more selfish motivations behind a more "noble" cause (which works even better because in the end, well... he was right! Thor was NOT fit to rule!). So for me... It's really both. Yes, he is motivated by jealousy and his own desire to be king (which in turn is only motivated by his desire to prove he's just as good as Thor - as Loki says himself... deep down, it's not really the throne he wants). But that doesn't mean he isn't right about Thor's inability to rule - and he seems to be the only one who sees the problem!
Yes, it was the first movie. The actors were young. And no one knew how the story of these brothers would unfold. Nobody knew how many fans Loki would gain, because the credit for that was not in the script but in Tom's wonderful acting. It is thanks to him that this character has such depth. I think if it were now, the scenes would not have been deleted.
@@e-Vella Honestly, if Tom had not breathed life into the role of Loki, there might not have been a Thor 2 or Thor Ragnarok. I just can't see any other actor doing that well with the role. To me, the romance between Thor and Jane was meh at best. And if there was no great Loki, who knows how the Avengers would have turned out, and they are the lynchpin of the first 3 phases of the MCU. So really, casting Tom was pretty much like winning the lottery for Marvel.
I think, if anything, the deleted scenes humanized Loki a little too much, and Marvel was maybe not sure if they could sell a superhero movie with a very sympathetic villain. Also, as much as I love Thor, he was a bit underdeveloped as a character, especially compared with Loki, so they probably had to pare the Loki scenes down a little so that Thor could shine (in his own franchise lol).
@@asdkotable Well... the thing is, two of those scenes actually included Thor and were arguably as much about developing him, as they were about developing Loki. The pre-coronation scene in particular had a lot of Thor character development, so cutting it to let Thor shine... that makes no sense to me? It gave Thor more depth, and a heartfelt scene with his brother, and you could see he had a few doubts about becoming king, but that he was also a bit callous and arrogant, etc. For me that was a huge bonus regarding Thor's character development (as were other scenes which they cut, in particular, the one when he brought a new cup to the café owner to replace the one he'd broken). As for not wanting to make Loki a sympathetic villain, if that had been the problem... they wouldn't have cast Tom Hiddleston with his angelic babyface, and they would simply have written the character totally differently. I don't believe that was the intention when they cut those scenes, because really, the one big scene that makes everyone feel for Loki is the scene during which he learns of his true origins. There is no way you can make him completely unsympathetic once you have established that he's been lied to and tricked into believing he was an Asgardian with a claim to the throne, and then discovered that he was in fact a stolen Frost Giant baby that Odin wanted to use for political purposes.
MCU definitely does not hate Loki. I just think they weren't used to a villain that actually worked, heh. They are often so drab next to the quick witty heroes. But for me it all came together in Loki's scene with Stark in Avengers. To me it's like they recognize they have similar senses of humor, and in another situation they might have been friends. Loki could be an Avenger, he just took a different path. I wish they'd had more scenes together (which is why I was disappointed when they switched to Ultron as the big baddie hehe).
On this topic, I want to give a shout out to Thor as a character. I admire that he never truly rejects Loki as his brother. I think a lot of different adaptations would have written it as, "My brother's evil, I'm done with him, the Avengers are my true brothers now," blah blah blah. But no, family is just that important to Thor. He won't throw it away just so he can feel righteous about himself. That doesn't mean he'll just stand back and let evil happen. But he won't let evil dictate who he cares about either. That's admirable.
The one where Loki is first told he is king, and his doublemindedness about it is revealed - thus backing up the idea that Loki has always said what he really wanted was Thor's respect, and the one where he says he is shocked to be king, also when he goes to the guard behind everyone's backs. What a shame they made no director's cut. To explore the relationship between the brothers - clearly they had no idea how interested people would be in that.
I actually have trouble watching the beginning of Thor 1 because of how Thor and his buddies treat Loki (including that deleted scene). It's not good natured, it's just plain bullying. And Loki doesn't get angry like a villain would, he shrinks, which makes you feel so bad for him. And he doesn't appear to have any other friends. Even that servant knows it's cool to mock him, which is humiliating. You have to imagine Loki's quite miserable. I like that Thor toward the end attempts to apologize for whatever role he played in Loki turning on him. That's why I really enjoy the Pompeii scene in the Loki series. That's exactly how the God of Mischief would be, when he's not being weighed down by his family.
Yes! I agree. Actually, this second scene could be the least essential one, because you can pick up on the lack of respect towards Loki through all the micro-aggressions that are shown. But the thing that is really missing, IMO, is evidence of his "mischief". We are told that he is mischievous, but we never actually see any of it. Thus, we are left to speculate: is Loki really mischievous? Does he really do bad things? Or is it just that Thor, Sif and the three idiots (yes sorry I really don't care much for them 😁 ) have decided to dislike him for no good reason? Personally, I don't like to think of Loki as only a victim. I think he probably really does things that are mischievous or mean, but we are never shown any of them, so it doesn't feel really "real". That's also why I love the Pompeii scene! But it could be why some people claimed Loki was "out of character" in the series. It's just that until then, we never actually got to see him be his "normal" self (except maybe in Ragnarok, the only movie in which he's not angry or recently hurt).
@@lottietalkie3142 I feel like they thought mischief just meant spreading gossip and causing trouble, heh. Which is more malicious than mischievous. They should have listened to Tom, who from the very beginning emphasized that mischief meant playfulness. ;D Some fans even say Mobius called this out when he said he didn't see enough mischief in Avengers (and presumably Thor 1). Very meta moment. :D
@@lottietalkie3142 I would have liked to have seen more of why there was tension between Loki and The Three Idiots (I'm stealing that!) & Sif because I think some casual viewers just didn't pick up on that. Loki didn't start doing mischievous/malicious things or snap only because of learning he was adopted. The guy had been undervalued all of his life: by Thor, Odin, their 'friends' , even by the palace staff. Everyone except Frigga. And even though she absolutely loved him, even she kept quiet about his adoption. Personally, if I had been her, I would have told him when he was small, Odin be damned! Incidentally, have you ever seen "Cinema Therapy" on RUclips? It's a family therapist and a film director who have been best friends since college and they analyze movie characters. Very entertaining and educational. They did a really good one on Loki right before the Loki series started and the therapist is very astute.
@@wolfe6220 Yes! I'm a big fan of Cinema Therapy. A genius idea for a RUclips channel, and these guys are just so nice and make such interesting videos!
@@wolfe6220 I think Loki's nature had a lot to do with the behavior of the three idiots. The fact that he hid the pain deep inside him, not showing it outside. They were too stupid to see it and feel sorry for him, seeing him as he showed on the outside. As someone who their stupid jokes do not move, as someone who is able to respond with a malicious illusion, or is silent, but does not cry, complain, or show suffering. The three idiots are stupid, but they're not bad. I believe they wouldn't kick a sufferer. But they don't know Loki is suffering. They see that he is standing firmly and this provokes them. Loki refuses to be humiliated, even when he loses, he retains him dignity. He carries his head high, even when he is in chains. He smiles and jokes when everyone takes death threats for him. It's not like it doesn't move him, but his defenses keep him from showing it. That is why the scenes in the Asgard cell or the conversation with Mobius are so valuable. When suffering weakens him so much that the barrier goes down, he shows his true self
The scene of Loki's coronation in the Dark World has 2 aspects: It shows that Loki, sitting in prison, is not thinking about revenge on the Avengers or Thor or Odin. He dreams of recognition and love. That's what he really wants. And secondly, the scene shows us that Loki spends his time indulging himself with empty dreams. And I don't think it's in his nature. Therefore, I also think it's good that the scene was cut.
I agree with you, these are important scenes, the movie lost a lot after they were cut. I like your analyzes because I think the same. Yes, Loki was envious, but the envious was justified, not because of his bad character, but how he was treated.
Actually seen these deleted scenes on HBO. I think Thor respected Loki opinion on everything. Loki is Thor's best friend. Not just brother's. But someone who would have his back. I know Loki did a lot of devious things to become King. I think some of the fans loved Loki for the fact that Thor doesn't want to go into a fight without his brother. I do remember Thor looked happy to see Loki when the Shield held him. To me; I felt that the mighty Thor was looking for Loki to protect him. When he asked Loki could he come home. That was a broken Thor who was lost and needed his family love to protect him. I might be misinterpreted what I got out of the scene. But the writers should had written in that Thor already knew that Loki is a Frost Giant. Told Loki the same. Do not ever doubt my love for you. We are brothers forever 🖤💚
I agree that the scenes you mentioned do add a lot to Loki's motivations and the dynamics of the family. That's what's always fascinated me about the first Thor movie. It's really a drama about the tragic nature of that family more than anything. It's almost a superhero movie second. The more they could add to that family drama the better imo. I hope you'll do a video about the Dark World deleted scenes as well. I've always thought the scene of Thor and Frigga talking about Loki added something to that dynamic as well. I really enjoy all your videos on Loki. They're very insightful. Thank you!
Thank you! I was originally planning to do another one about the Dark World, but... I'm not sure I have enough material. The only scene that I think should have been kept is exactly the one you mentioned (Thor and Frigga). After giving it some thought, I don't feel like the film was damaged by deleted scenes in the same way as the first Thor. The Dark World seems to have suffered from other problems (it's almost as if they had two films in one...). You can tell it was re-written multiple times, and IMO, they should just have focused on Thor/Loki, as those scenes are the only good ones (but they are really, REALLY good!). Maybe I could try and make one focused on Frigga, and how they cut way too many of her scenes in both movies
@@lottietalkie3142 Agreed. I don't think TDW lost much with the deleted scenes, either. I do like the cut scene between Frigga and Thor, but it wouldn't have changed the movie much. I think most of what's in it can be inferred, anyway. Though I do see some problems with TDW, I've never really understood why people dislike it so much. It's entertaining, and as you said, the Thor-Loki scenes are VERY good. We get to really expand on what we saw in the first Thor in terms of family dynamics as well. I also enjoyed seeing Loki's relationship with Sif and the Warriors as they are after his imprisonment. And who could forget his introduction to Jane Foster? WHACK! "I like her." 😂I love him so much. I would definitely enjoy seeing a video about Frigga if you choose to do one. I think her relationship with Loki, and her role in the family in general, bears some scrutiny. Her part in Endgame is interesting and adds something to her character as well. I liked the implication that she already knew she was going to die. In the myths, she's able to see the future. Whatever videos you choose to do on Loki and fam, I plan to watch! Thanks again.
Scene 3 should have been kept to show that he wasn’t ‘evil’ and ‘took the throne’ but then he wouldn’t have been seen as much of a ‘villain’ then would he…
They should have kept the 1st at least some of it and the 3rd but if I only had to choose 1 it would be number 3. Oh yeah I agree with the frigga part especially when she gets mad at Odin scene that was cut.
I was too young when the "Loki" effect at its max appeared, around 2012/2013 , it's only recently that I got interested in Marvels and I immediately got hooked on the character, I like him and he is very well played by the actor, sometimes I find that the actor looks a lot like the character he plays! Loki and Tom are in fact the same on some points (not on everything of course). I look at his interviews and funny moments of his tweets but they are 8 years old or more, I have the impression to have missed a lot. And then I heard about the series loki I had watched it but without really understanding, just quickly, I was maybe too young or not interested. But I got back to it later and with season 2 I rediscovered this phenomenon about the actor and the character that I had missed more than 10 years ago. But I missed the years when he was young... I hope it's not too late to get into it... And that's how I came across your channel, I'm going to subscribe because I find them really good! Thank you! And I think that the series loki was made to give a second chance to the character to evolve, why it would have been made otherwise? Marvel could have not made him steal the tesseract and kill him. I think there is a link with the MCU, it's not just fan service
Thanks for your comment! I am the same. I only really discovered MCU movies 3 years ago. I'm still more of a Loki fan and a Tom Hiddleston fan than a Marvel fan (that's why I don't do much stuff on other MCU projects).
Such a deep and entertaining video, as always. I'm so glad Loki has so many dimensions and you are able to explore them one by one (and we get to be your co- explorers too, yeyyy😊)
Nice to see some analysis on these scenes, the first and last especially. I've always liked them, and I do think they enhance Loki's character (and Frigga's in the case of the third), though I admit I can understand why the first was cut from an editing perspective. Going straight from "you were both born to be kings" directly to Thor entering to a cheering crowd on his coronation day works really well. Would have been great if they could have made it work, though, for all the reasons you mentioned. The third one is always the one I'm most sad didn't make it as it was originally. Not sure how many friends and family members I've had to explain that Loki couldn't possibly have been trying to forcibly take the throne as this scene is not there to easily do it for me. Everyone I knew bought that Loki was evil in "Thor" due to scenes like this because my friends/family aren't really the types to analyze character motivations - they just watch them to turn off their brains and have fun. And I think this is probably at least partially the reason for some of these changes. I don't think it was because Marvel hates Loki, but because Loki was supposed to be the big villain in the Avengers movie a year later, and if you make him too sympathetic in "Thor", his behavior in that movie can create a large sense of whiplash. I could be wrong, of course, but that was always my assumption. Overall, nice video! Enjoyed watching some "Thor" Loki analysis in this year of our Lord 2022. Never gets old, especially when examined so intelligently.
I am very grateful for the work you have done. Every time I watch your reviews I find something new and I really love it. Now I understand why I didn't like the 'Thor' movie when I first watched it. In my opinion, the Asgardian and Jotunheim scenes are the best part of it. They are theatrical and magnificent. But in the meantime, it seemed to me that sometimes they were not logical. I felt the lack of sympathy for Thor and his friends because they looked really one-dimensional and dull, I didn't catch the influence of Friga on Loki in the movie (I did know it, of course, but only because I became Loki fan after watching the 'Loki series'). I saw that Loki was constantly mocked and bullied for no reason and felt sorry for him. If the lack of time was the reason for deleting the scenes, well I'd rather delete some Midgardian scenes and dialogs between the scientists, because they really don't bring anything crucial to the plot. And probably initially Kenneth Branagh wanted more scenes with Tom, but they were deleted because the movie called 'Thor' didn't need so much Loki, because of someone's opinion, I don't know who it was, and no one expected the audience will love Loki so much. I feel sorry for this movie actually because probably it was trying to kill two birds with one stone: to please the mass-market and chamber audience at the same time. I even felt like I was watching two different movies at the same time, a kind of constant cognitive dissonance because of this plus sometimes lack of understanding of the motivation for the deeds of the main characters. So yes, probably deleted scenes would have helped to fix these flaws and I would have liked the movie more.
I didn't really like the first "Thor" movie when I saw it for the first time. I think I'll probably make another video about it, where I might talk about this. After viewing it several times, I have a better opinion of it, and I think it's actually one of the most complex, multi-layered of all the Marvel movies. But it still has many flaws, and some of these flaws, IMO, come from bad choices that were made when deciding what to cut and what to keep. I agree, if they really needed to remove scenes, I can think of many things that were not as essential... Personally, I'm not even sure we needed the Warriors Three at all. OK, they were there to show that Thor had a gang of friends and was popular, I suppose... But other than this, they are boring and completely undeveloped. They are each reduced to stereotypes (Fandral is the foppish ladies' man, Volstagg is a kind of Obelix type who is super strong and obsessed with food, and Hogun is a very stereotypical stoic Asian warrior...). Among the deleted scenes, there were also scenes that featured them, but I was like, "Thank God they were deleted", because they were in fact more of the same (more lame jokes about how much Volstagg liked to eat, etc, etc... same old, same old). There is a definitely a feeling that there are "two films in one", in many ways... One is the fact that there are two very different settings: Asgard and Earth. They did that very deliberately, and the idea was to use this to create humour. I think it works, to a certain extent. The other thing is that the film is both a kind of "educational tale" (or Bildungsroman to use the pretentious term ^^) centered on Thor, and a tragedy centred on Loki. The second one being far more compelling, in the end... Which was probably not the intention!
I definitely think Branagh wanted more Loki scenes. He worked with Tom before, on stage and tv, and he's the one who encouraged Tom to audition for the movie (as Thor, but then decided he would make a better Loki). Branagh knew Tom could go the distance and probably really hated cutting those scenes.
@@lottietalkie3142 Ugh, yes, the Warriors Three and, to a lesser extent Sif (who was great in the Loki series though) really didn't add much to the movie. They could have "tightened up" their scenes (and the "romance") instead of left in the 3 deleted scenes and had a much better movie overall.
@@wolfe6220 Yeah, honestly, when you listen to his commentary on why he cut the scenes, it just sounds like he can't really tell us why. The explanations are never very convincing.
@@lottietalkie3142 I totally agree regarding the warriors. If I were Thor I have never worked with such a dull team like that. I'm really happy creators deleted additional scenes with them. To be honest the Thor motivation speech is not really motivating at all. I have the speech of Henry the Vth by Tom in my mind as a comparison, it is like two different worlds, but I believe this is how pre-fight motivation speech should sound like from the true leader or king. At least if you count on people will be ready to give their lives for you. As for the Bildungsroman, it is my own opinion, but I feel that Thor really deserved it and on the contrary, I feel that Loki didn't deserve so much tragedy. Probably that is why people support him so much.
Well if you ask me, I think the movie should have been kept the way it was; because in the deleted scenes It shows a warmer relationship between Thor and Loki (I mean, sure he does a few hurtful comments non intenationally, but Is clear that he cares for him more than in the original, for exemple while planning to go to jotunheim when Thor praises and convinces all his friends but not Loki, that can mean both that Thor took Loki for granted or that didn't actually cared about him being present or not) And Thor being more mindful with Loki is nice sure, but is not really coherent with the premise of the movie where Thor is initially shown as immature, selfish and full of himself that ended up putting his family on the background to go party and live his glory, and in the other side a more jealous and bitter Loki then we see on the scenes, so a colder relationship between Thor and Loki not only makes more sense but helps developing Thor's character throughout the movie with him leaving this personality behind, but also us sympathize with Loki more, since Thor was actually a d*ck at the time. I'm not saying Thor loved Loki less in the kept version of his movie, but a more strained relationship definitely helped building both of their characters
I know I'm a year late, but I had to comment on this. I totally agree with your statement about a colder relationship being key to the movie. I love the first deleted scene, but I do think it shows just a bit too much happiness and love between them. I think that scene would have been more suited as something that could have occurred between them years prior to Thor 1, as it shows that their relationship wasn't nearly as strained.
Thanks a lot for the subs! I have very poor English, and so I can use auto-translation of your video into my language from a good source. I hope there will be your videos about season 2 of "Loki" when it comes out!
Another great video :) After Loki TV show I rewatched all the movies featuring Loki to catch every detail about his personality and motives... and I think those scenes should have been left in Thor movie or parts of them at least... Recently I've been also thinking a lot about my other favourite character, from Game of Thrones series - Theon Greyjoy and I even see some similarities between Loki and Theon, I mean in personality traits and I love their redemption arcs... even though Theon's story is totally heartbreaking and sometimes hard to watch. Loki TV show is one of my favourite ever. I'm not really a GoT fan and I kept watching mostly because of Theon and he isn't even main character ;) Just my chaotic thoughts... Sorry, you probably haven't even seen GoT ;) Anyway, I love all your videos!
Thank you so much! And yes, I have seen GoT and I definitely see some parallels. To begin with, Theon was taken from his real family and raised in Winterfell, by those who had defeated his own people, same as Loki. He also has a very difficult relationship with his father, and feels he has to "prove" his worth. He ends up doing terrible things in an attempt to prove that he's worthy. I guess the big difference is that unlike Loki, he knew where he came from from the beginning.
@@lottietalkie3142 I'm glad you know who I was talking about! Definitely. I also think they were both more sensitive and vulnerable than most of people in their surroundings, easily hurt, but they were masking it and playing tough... They couldn't accept themselves as they were. "It's better to be cruel than weak" Theon said and I think the same goes for Loki... And both actors are really phenomenal (imho). Theon's story still breaks my heart... I'm so happy for Loki TV show, such nice and touching redemption arc :) I'll think it over and maybe I'll come with some more elaborated ideas...I doubt it though, haha ;) Good luck in your inspirational work! Take care!
I have been watching your podcasts for quite a while but it is only now that I have decided to comment)))))) Just saying thank you for the video. I could not agree more with everything.
Great video girl, I was already missing you! Please, can you talk about what you'd like to see in Loki season 2? I've made my own ideas and I'm very curious about yours! Love you
Thank you so much! Yes, it's very hard to find the time to make videos at the moment... I'm trying to keep uploading at least once every 3/4 weeks, but with analysis, it's difficult! I'm not so good at speculating about things that haven't been released yet. Usually I prefer to analyze what we already have. But I'll think about doing a season 2 video! Maybe I'll wait until we're a bit closer to the release (it's still a LONG way ahead!)
What do you mean? Uh, well, Thor 1 was released in 2011, and time passed between films, naturally Tom can't look at his 40s still at 29 (although he's still awesome anyway) Although in my opinion he looks quite young in the whole trilogy, outwardly age, ironically, is felt only in his series:)
@@miahopes Just meant that at times, Loki looks very young (like 17-19 y/o) in certain scenes of Thor 1, while in Avengers he looks more 22-25 y/o, though it is only a year later. Loki in these clips (and others from Thor 1) remind me of my youngest cousin, age 18. Or maybe my cousin is more mature than I think. Never claimed to be good at guessing ages. :)
@@ironiclife3099 Well, falling into the void is obviously not good for health and appearance... To me, Loki in Avengers doesn't look much older, he's just like a student who didn't sleep for a month before the session and went crazy :)
Ah yes, sorry, I always try to but for some reason, can't figure out why it doesn't work! Does it work now? I wish I had the time to do proper subtitles. Initially I even thought I'd translate and sub everything in French (so at least my French family and friends who don't understand English could watch). But the process of creating videos is SOOOO time-consuming, it's just not a realistic option at the moment.
@@lottietalkie3142 No I'm sorry, it doesn't work here and in the previous video 😟 in the other videos it works... Don't worry...english is not my language and subtitles help me when listening but thank you for trying 🤗
@@Arya0882 You're very welcome! I do not know why the automatic subs are not activating by themselves anymore, I'll try and make sure they do next time.
I you could keep only one of these 3 scenes, which ones would you keep? I'd keep n°3. I also really like n°1 but I feel n°3 was really the ONE scene that should have been left as it was, not shortened and moved to after the throne scene.
I would have kept the 1st scene. I do agree that the when we do not see him gaining the throne unintentionally it changes the movie a lot, but it is revealed at the end that he only wanted to be Thor's equal. Somehow I think that somewhere watched this movie and said hey we need to have a "bad guy" so some of these scenes that make Loki more complex were left. I still love the movie, but if all of these were kept I would be even happier... At least we saw them. And it only strengthened our opinion about him and his motivation. Thanks for great insight. Love watching your videos. Only started so can't wait to see them all!
I agree. Scene 1 is very cute, but it is in 3 that there is so much plot meaning that changes and explains something. But this way Loki looks less of a villain, so it's understandable why it was cut out :((
I would also add for Scene 1 that Loki could be reacting to the servant's laugh. For most monarchies, servants could be severely punished for laughing at royalty, and it adds to the suggestion that Loki wasn't very well respected in Asgard.
He's definitely reacting to the servant's laugh, yes, no doubt about it!
I agree, that was yet another element that showed how little respect he got from everyone at court, including servants... The big issue is that they never let us know exactly why he was treated so poorly by everyone. Whether it was just prejudice, or the result of his own attitude, or (most probably) a combination of both...
@@lottietalkie3142 I think that during loki's childhood he always wondered why he didn't feel like he belonged in the family, and the fact that he was adopted confirmed that for him, and his anger was magnified
Exactly. In the first Thor movie until DW I felt that Loki was very bizarrely bullied by people. He was treated with indifference, like a guest, a strange visitor with a VIP card.
It really made me uncomfortable to see him being judged, and having those expressions of sadness and hate on his face.
When i say i am weak i mean that i cry when loki says 'sometimes i'm envious but never doubt that i love you'
Is it just me that any deleted scenes that don’t directly affect major plot events are immediately headcanon? All of these exist in my mind still and they are GLORIOUS SCENES that were BEYOND WORTHY of the film
I'm so glad you did this! The deletion of these scenes have bothered me for years!
In the scene where Odin is asleep and the guard brings Gungnir to Loki: Loki looks so uncertain, confirming that he didn't necessarily want to rule.
That and Tom Hiddleston has more acting talent in his eyebrow than most actors have in their whole body.
I'm not 100% convinced that Loki was really doing anything dastardly with ruining Thor's coronation or convincing Thor to go to Jotunheim. I really believe that Loki's intent was to show Thor as the blustering, headstrong jerk that he actually was. Odin obviously had a massive blind spot when it came to Thor. Odin needed to see Thor as he actually was. If the guard had informed Odin of Thor's plan to go to Jotunheim in a timely manner, it's very likely that Thor would have been prevented from going, been chastised and learned a lesson. Odin would have very likely put off the coronation for a few years until Thor matured and would actually be a decent king.
I think that Marvel didn't have much faith that the first Thor movie would be as good (since Chris and Tom were relative unknowns at that time) as it was and thought that cutting "unnecessary" scenes would make it better. Boy, were they wrong!
You're very wecome! And I think that's a great point about Marvel not trusting this movie enough to allow Branagh to make a longer movie. Throughout the commentary, I felt he himself wasn't really convinced by his own explanations as to why he cut those scenes. Felt like there were other constraints he couldn't mention.
Regarding Loki's motivations, I really think they are a mix of reasonable, perfectly justified concern about Thor's ability to rule, and much more selfish reasons. I think that's what makes him fascinating: he almost always has complex motivations.
IMO, it is too generous to think he was only motivated by the good of Asgard. He wasn't planning to steal the throne in this way, but his jealousy was still a factor, and he kind of hides more selfish motivations behind a more "noble" cause (which works even better because in the end, well... he was right! Thor was NOT fit to rule!). So for me... It's really both. Yes, he is motivated by jealousy and his own desire to be king (which in turn is only motivated by his desire to prove he's just as good as Thor - as Loki says himself... deep down, it's not really the throne he wants). But that doesn't mean he isn't right about Thor's inability to rule - and he seems to be the only one who sees the problem!
Yes, it was the first movie. The actors were young. And no one knew how the story of these brothers would unfold. Nobody knew how many fans Loki would gain, because the credit for that was not in the script but in Tom's wonderful acting. It is thanks to him that this character has such depth. I think if it were now, the scenes would not have been deleted.
@@e-Vella Honestly, if Tom had not breathed life into the role of Loki, there might not have been a Thor 2 or Thor Ragnarok. I just can't see any other actor doing that well with the role. To me, the romance between Thor and Jane was meh at best. And if there was no great Loki, who knows how the Avengers would have turned out, and they are the lynchpin of the first 3 phases of the MCU. So really, casting Tom was pretty much like winning the lottery for Marvel.
I think, if anything, the deleted scenes humanized Loki a little too much, and Marvel was maybe not sure if they could sell a superhero movie with a very sympathetic villain. Also, as much as I love Thor, he was a bit underdeveloped as a character, especially compared with Loki, so they probably had to pare the Loki scenes down a little so that Thor could shine (in his own franchise lol).
@@asdkotable Well... the thing is, two of those scenes actually included Thor and were arguably as much about developing him, as they were about developing Loki. The pre-coronation scene in particular had a lot of Thor character development, so cutting it to let Thor shine... that makes no sense to me? It gave Thor more depth, and a heartfelt scene with his brother, and you could see he had a few doubts about becoming king, but that he was also a bit callous and arrogant, etc. For me that was a huge bonus regarding Thor's character development (as were other scenes which they cut, in particular, the one when he brought a new cup to the café owner to replace the one he'd broken).
As for not wanting to make Loki a sympathetic villain, if that had been the problem... they wouldn't have cast Tom Hiddleston with his angelic babyface, and they would simply have written the character totally differently. I don't believe that was the intention when they cut those scenes, because really, the one big scene that makes everyone feel for Loki is the scene during which he learns of his true origins. There is no way you can make him completely unsympathetic once you have established that he's been lied to and tricked into believing he was an Asgardian with a claim to the throne, and then discovered that he was in fact a stolen Frost Giant baby that Odin wanted to use for political purposes.
MCU definitely does not hate Loki. I just think they weren't used to a villain that actually worked, heh. They are often so drab next to the quick witty heroes. But for me it all came together in Loki's scene with Stark in Avengers. To me it's like they recognize they have similar senses of humor, and in another situation they might have been friends. Loki could be an Avenger, he just took a different path. I wish they'd had more scenes together (which is why I was disappointed when they switched to Ultron as the big baddie hehe).
I kind of like Ultron, to be honest, but... clearly he's a downgrade from Loki (who wouldn't be?)
On this topic, I want to give a shout out to Thor as a character. I admire that he never truly rejects Loki as his brother. I think a lot of different adaptations would have written it as, "My brother's evil, I'm done with him, the Avengers are my true brothers now," blah blah blah. But no, family is just that important to Thor. He won't throw it away just so he can feel righteous about himself. That doesn't mean he'll just stand back and let evil happen. But he won't let evil dictate who he cares about either. That's admirable.
Yes! I couldn't agree more with you😮
The one where Loki is first told he is king, and his doublemindedness about it is revealed - thus backing up the idea that Loki has always said what he really wanted was Thor's respect, and the one where he says he is shocked to be king, also when he goes to the guard behind everyone's backs. What a shame they made no director's cut. To explore the relationship between the brothers - clearly they had no idea how interested people would be in that.
I actually have trouble watching the beginning of Thor 1 because of how Thor and his buddies treat Loki (including that deleted scene). It's not good natured, it's just plain bullying. And Loki doesn't get angry like a villain would, he shrinks, which makes you feel so bad for him. And he doesn't appear to have any other friends. Even that servant knows it's cool to mock him, which is humiliating. You have to imagine Loki's quite miserable. I like that Thor toward the end attempts to apologize for whatever role he played in Loki turning on him. That's why I really enjoy the Pompeii scene in the Loki series. That's exactly how the God of Mischief would be, when he's not being weighed down by his family.
Yes! I agree. Actually, this second scene could be the least essential one, because you can pick up on the lack of respect towards Loki through all the micro-aggressions that are shown. But the thing that is really missing, IMO, is evidence of his "mischief". We are told that he is mischievous, but we never actually see any of it.
Thus, we are left to speculate: is Loki really mischievous? Does he really do bad things? Or is it just that Thor, Sif and the three idiots (yes sorry I really don't care much for them 😁 ) have decided to dislike him for no good reason?
Personally, I don't like to think of Loki as only a victim. I think he probably really does things that are mischievous or mean, but we are never shown any of them, so it doesn't feel really "real". That's also why I love the Pompeii scene! But it could be why some people claimed Loki was "out of character" in the series. It's just that until then, we never actually got to see him be his "normal" self (except maybe in Ragnarok, the only movie in which he's not angry or recently hurt).
@@lottietalkie3142 I feel like they thought mischief just meant spreading gossip and causing trouble, heh. Which is more malicious than mischievous. They should have listened to Tom, who from the very beginning emphasized that mischief meant playfulness. ;D Some fans even say Mobius called this out when he said he didn't see enough mischief in Avengers (and presumably Thor 1). Very meta moment. :D
@@lottietalkie3142 I would have liked to have seen more of why there was tension between Loki and The Three Idiots (I'm stealing that!) & Sif because I think some casual viewers just didn't pick up on that. Loki didn't start doing mischievous/malicious things or snap only because of learning he was adopted. The guy had been undervalued all of his life: by Thor, Odin, their 'friends' , even by the palace staff. Everyone except Frigga. And even though she absolutely loved him, even she kept quiet about his adoption. Personally, if I had been her, I would have told him when he was small, Odin be damned!
Incidentally, have you ever seen "Cinema Therapy" on RUclips? It's a family therapist and a film director who have been best friends since college and they analyze movie characters. Very entertaining and educational. They did a really good one on Loki right before the Loki series started and the therapist is very astute.
@@wolfe6220 Yes! I'm a big fan of Cinema Therapy. A genius idea for a RUclips channel, and these guys are just so nice and make such interesting videos!
@@wolfe6220 I think Loki's nature had a lot to do with the behavior of the three idiots. The fact that he hid the pain deep inside him, not showing it outside. They were too stupid to see it and feel sorry for him, seeing him as he showed on the outside. As someone who their stupid jokes do not move, as someone who is able to respond with a malicious illusion, or is silent, but does not cry, complain, or show suffering.
The three idiots are stupid, but they're not bad. I believe they wouldn't kick a sufferer. But they don't know Loki is suffering. They see that he is standing firmly and this provokes them.
Loki refuses to be humiliated, even when he loses, he retains him dignity. He carries his head high, even when he is in chains. He smiles and jokes when everyone takes death threats for him. It's not like it doesn't move him, but his defenses keep him from showing it. That is why the scenes in the Asgard cell or the conversation with Mobius are so valuable. When suffering weakens him so much that the barrier goes down, he shows his true self
Tom actually filmed scenes in Age of Ultron and they cut them because the test audience thought that he was ‘controlling Ultron!’
Haha, that's the problem with Loki, he's such a great character that he will overshadow everyone else!
The scene of Loki's coronation in the Dark World has 2 aspects:
It shows that Loki, sitting in prison, is not thinking about revenge on the Avengers or Thor or Odin. He dreams of recognition and love. That's what he really wants.
And secondly, the scene shows us that Loki spends his time indulging himself with empty dreams. And I don't think it's in his nature.
Therefore, I also think it's good that the scene was cut.
Loki was always his mother’s sun, and Frigga loved him so much she would’ve done anything for him.
I agree with you, these are important scenes, the movie lost a lot after they were cut. I like your analyzes because I think the same. Yes, Loki was envious, but the envious was justified, not because of his bad character, but how he was treated.
Actually seen these deleted scenes on HBO. I think Thor respected Loki opinion on everything. Loki is Thor's best friend. Not just brother's. But someone who would have his back. I know Loki did a lot of devious things to become King. I think some of the fans loved Loki for the fact that Thor doesn't want to go into a fight without his brother. I do remember Thor looked happy to see Loki when the Shield held him. To me; I felt that the mighty Thor was looking for Loki to protect him. When he asked Loki could he come home. That was a broken Thor who was lost and needed his family love to protect him. I might be misinterpreted what I got out of the scene. But the writers should had written in that Thor already knew that Loki is a Frost Giant. Told Loki the same. Do not ever doubt my love for you. We are brothers forever 🖤💚
I agree that the scenes you mentioned do add a lot to Loki's motivations and the dynamics of the family. That's what's always fascinated me about the first Thor movie. It's really a drama about the tragic nature of that family more than anything. It's almost a superhero movie second. The more they could add to that family drama the better imo. I hope you'll do a video about the Dark World deleted scenes as well. I've always thought the scene of Thor and Frigga talking about Loki added something to that dynamic as well. I really enjoy all your videos on Loki. They're very insightful. Thank you!
Thank you! I was originally planning to do another one about the Dark World, but... I'm not sure I have enough material. The only scene that I think should have been kept is exactly the one you mentioned (Thor and Frigga). After giving it some thought, I don't feel like the film was damaged by deleted scenes in the same way as the first Thor. The Dark World seems to have suffered from other problems (it's almost as if they had two films in one...). You can tell it was re-written multiple times, and IMO, they should just have focused on Thor/Loki, as those scenes are the only good ones (but they are really, REALLY good!).
Maybe I could try and make one focused on Frigga, and how they cut way too many of her scenes in both movies
I will be happy to watch all the cut scenes. Whether they were important or it was better that they cut them.
@@lottietalkie3142 Agreed. I don't think TDW lost much with the deleted scenes, either. I do like the cut scene between Frigga and Thor, but it wouldn't have changed the movie much. I think most of what's in it can be inferred, anyway.
Though I do see some problems with TDW, I've never really understood why people dislike it so much. It's entertaining, and as you said, the Thor-Loki scenes are VERY good. We get to really expand on what we saw in the first Thor in terms of family dynamics as well. I also enjoyed seeing Loki's relationship with Sif and the Warriors as they are after his imprisonment. And who could forget his introduction to Jane Foster? WHACK! "I like her." 😂I love him so much.
I would definitely enjoy seeing a video about Frigga if you choose to do one. I think her relationship with Loki, and her role in the family in general, bears some scrutiny. Her part in Endgame is interesting and adds something to her character as well. I liked the implication that she already knew she was going to die. In the myths, she's able to see the future.
Whatever videos you choose to do on Loki and fam, I plan to watch! Thanks again.
Scene 3 should have been kept to show that he wasn’t ‘evil’ and ‘took the throne’ but then he wouldn’t have been seen as much of a ‘villain’ then would he…
They should have kept the 1st at least some of it and the 3rd but if I only had to choose 1 it would be number 3. Oh yeah I agree with the frigga part especially when she gets mad at Odin scene that was cut.
20:53 HEARGHHHHHH
They deleted important scenes of his in Avengers 1, Thor 2 and Thor 3! They even deleted Asgard scenes of him in the series! 😢💚
I was too young when the "Loki" effect at its max appeared, around 2012/2013 , it's only recently that I got interested in Marvels and I immediately got hooked on the character, I like him and he is very well played by the actor, sometimes I find that the actor looks a lot like the character he plays! Loki and Tom are in fact the same on some points (not on everything of course). I look at his interviews and funny moments of his tweets but they are 8 years old or more, I have the impression to have missed a lot. And then I heard about the series loki I had watched it but without really understanding, just quickly, I was maybe too young or not interested. But I got back to it later and with season 2 I rediscovered this phenomenon about the actor and the character that I had missed more than 10 years ago. But I missed the years when he was young... I hope it's not too late to get into it...
And that's how I came across your channel, I'm going to subscribe because I find them really good! Thank you!
And I think that the series loki was made to give a second chance to the character to evolve, why it would have been made otherwise? Marvel could have not made him steal the tesseract and kill him. I think there is a link with the MCU, it's not just fan service
Thanks for your comment! I am the same. I only really discovered MCU movies 3 years ago. I'm still more of a Loki fan and a Tom Hiddleston fan than a Marvel fan (that's why I don't do much stuff on other MCU projects).
@@lottietalkie3142 oh I see, it's perfect for me then! because I love the character so much! and I feel less lonely thank you lol
Such a deep and entertaining video, as always. I'm so glad Loki has so many dimensions and you are able to explore them one by one (and we get to be your co- explorers too, yeyyy😊)
This is so nice, thank you!
@@lottietalkie3142 Τhank you too! ^^
Nice to see some analysis on these scenes, the first and last especially. I've always liked them, and I do think they enhance Loki's character (and Frigga's in the case of the third), though I admit I can understand why the first was cut from an editing perspective. Going straight from "you were both born to be kings" directly to Thor entering to a cheering crowd on his coronation day works really well. Would have been great if they could have made it work, though, for all the reasons you mentioned.
The third one is always the one I'm most sad didn't make it as it was originally. Not sure how many friends and family members I've had to explain that Loki couldn't possibly have been trying to forcibly take the throne as this scene is not there to easily do it for me. Everyone I knew bought that Loki was evil in "Thor" due to scenes like this because my friends/family aren't really the types to analyze character motivations - they just watch them to turn off their brains and have fun. And I think this is probably at least partially the reason for some of these changes. I don't think it was because Marvel hates Loki, but because Loki was supposed to be the big villain in the Avengers movie a year later, and if you make him too sympathetic in "Thor", his behavior in that movie can create a large sense of whiplash. I could be wrong, of course, but that was always my assumption.
Overall, nice video! Enjoyed watching some "Thor" Loki analysis in this year of our Lord 2022. Never gets old, especially when examined so intelligently.
I am very grateful for the work you have done. Every time I watch your reviews I find something new and I really love it.
Now I understand why I didn't like the 'Thor' movie when I first watched it. In my opinion, the Asgardian and Jotunheim scenes are the best part of it. They are theatrical and magnificent. But in the meantime, it seemed to me that sometimes they were not logical. I felt the lack of sympathy for Thor and his friends because they looked really one-dimensional and dull, I didn't catch the influence of Friga on Loki in the movie (I did know it, of course, but only because I became Loki fan after watching the 'Loki series'). I saw that Loki was constantly mocked and bullied for no reason and felt sorry for him.
If the lack of time was the reason for deleting the scenes, well I'd rather delete some Midgardian scenes and dialogs between the scientists, because they really don't bring anything crucial to the plot. And probably initially Kenneth Branagh wanted more scenes with Tom, but they were deleted because the movie called 'Thor' didn't need so much Loki, because of someone's opinion, I don't know who it was, and no one expected the audience will love Loki so much.
I feel sorry for this movie actually because probably it was trying to kill two birds with one stone: to please the mass-market and chamber audience at the same time. I even felt like I was watching two different movies at the same time, a kind of constant cognitive dissonance because of this plus sometimes lack of understanding of the motivation for the deeds of the main characters. So yes, probably deleted scenes would have helped to fix these flaws and I would have liked the movie more.
I didn't really like the first "Thor" movie when I saw it for the first time. I think I'll probably make another video about it, where I might talk about this. After viewing it several times, I have a better opinion of it, and I think it's actually one of the most complex, multi-layered of all the Marvel movies. But it still has many flaws, and some of these flaws, IMO, come from bad choices that were made when deciding what to cut and what to keep.
I agree, if they really needed to remove scenes, I can think of many things that were not as essential... Personally, I'm not even sure we needed the Warriors Three at all. OK, they were there to show that Thor had a gang of friends and was popular, I suppose... But other than this, they are boring and completely undeveloped. They are each reduced to stereotypes (Fandral is the foppish ladies' man, Volstagg is a kind of Obelix type who is super strong and obsessed with food, and Hogun is a very stereotypical stoic Asian warrior...). Among the deleted scenes, there were also scenes that featured them, but I was like, "Thank God they were deleted", because they were in fact more of the same (more lame jokes about how much Volstagg liked to eat, etc, etc... same old, same old).
There is a definitely a feeling that there are "two films in one", in many ways... One is the fact that there are two very different settings: Asgard and Earth. They did that very deliberately, and the idea was to use this to create humour. I think it works, to a certain extent. The other thing is that the film is both a kind of "educational tale" (or Bildungsroman to use the pretentious term ^^) centered on Thor, and a tragedy centred on Loki. The second one being far more compelling, in the end... Which was probably not the intention!
I definitely think Branagh wanted more Loki scenes. He worked with Tom before, on stage and tv, and he's the one who encouraged Tom to audition for the movie (as Thor, but then decided he would make a better Loki). Branagh knew Tom could go the distance and probably really hated cutting those scenes.
@@lottietalkie3142 Ugh, yes, the Warriors Three and, to a lesser extent Sif (who was great in the Loki series though) really didn't add much to the movie. They could have "tightened up" their scenes (and the "romance") instead of left in the 3 deleted scenes and had a much better movie overall.
@@wolfe6220 Yeah, honestly, when you listen to his commentary on why he cut the scenes, it just sounds like he can't really tell us why. The explanations are never very convincing.
@@lottietalkie3142 I totally agree regarding the warriors. If I were Thor I have never worked with such a dull team like that. I'm really happy creators deleted additional scenes with them. To be honest the Thor motivation speech is not really motivating at all. I have the speech of Henry the Vth by Tom in my mind as a comparison, it is like two different worlds, but I believe this is how pre-fight motivation speech should sound like from the true leader or king. At least if you count on people will be ready to give their lives for you.
As for the Bildungsroman, it is my own opinion, but I feel that Thor really deserved it and on the contrary, I feel that Loki didn't deserve so much tragedy. Probably that is why people support him so much.
Well if you ask me, I think the movie should have been kept the way it was; because in the deleted scenes It shows a warmer relationship between Thor and Loki (I mean, sure he does a few hurtful comments non intenationally, but Is clear that he cares for him more than in the original, for exemple while planning to go to jotunheim when Thor praises and convinces all his friends but not Loki, that can mean both that Thor took Loki for granted or that didn't actually cared about him being present or not)
And Thor being more mindful with Loki is nice sure, but is not really coherent with the premise of the movie where Thor is initially shown as immature, selfish and full of himself that ended up putting his family on the background to go party and live his glory, and in the other side a more jealous and bitter Loki then we see on the scenes, so a colder relationship between Thor and Loki not only makes more sense but helps developing Thor's character throughout the movie with him leaving this personality behind, but also us sympathize with Loki more, since Thor was actually a d*ck at the time.
I'm not saying Thor loved Loki less in the kept version of his movie, but a more strained relationship definitely helped building both of their characters
I know I'm a year late, but I had to comment on this. I totally agree with your statement about a colder relationship being key to the movie. I love the first deleted scene, but I do think it shows just a bit too much happiness and love between them. I think that scene would have been more suited as something that could have occurred between them years prior to Thor 1, as it shows that their relationship wasn't nearly as strained.
Thanks a lot for the subs! I have very poor English, and so I can use auto-translation of your video into my language from a good source.
I hope there will be your videos about season 2 of "Loki" when it comes out!
Another great video :) After Loki TV show I rewatched all the movies featuring Loki to catch every detail about his personality and motives... and I think those scenes should have been left in Thor movie or parts of them at least...
Recently I've been also thinking a lot about my other favourite character, from Game of Thrones series - Theon Greyjoy and I even see some similarities between Loki and Theon, I mean in personality traits and I love their redemption arcs... even though Theon's story is totally heartbreaking and sometimes hard to watch. Loki TV show is one of my favourite ever. I'm not really a GoT fan and I kept watching mostly because of Theon and he isn't even main character ;) Just my chaotic thoughts... Sorry, you probably haven't even seen GoT ;)
Anyway, I love all your videos!
Thank you so much! And yes, I have seen GoT and I definitely see some parallels. To begin with, Theon was taken from his real family and raised in Winterfell, by those who had defeated his own people, same as Loki. He also has a very difficult relationship with his father, and feels he has to "prove" his worth. He ends up doing terrible things in an attempt to prove that he's worthy.
I guess the big difference is that unlike Loki, he knew where he came from from the beginning.
@@lottietalkie3142 I'm glad you know who I was talking about! Definitely. I also think they were both more sensitive and vulnerable than most of people in their surroundings, easily hurt, but they were masking it and playing tough... They couldn't accept themselves as they were. "It's better to be cruel than weak" Theon said and I think the same goes for Loki... And both actors are really phenomenal (imho). Theon's story still breaks my heart... I'm so happy for Loki TV show, such nice and touching redemption arc :)
I'll think it over and maybe I'll come with some more elaborated ideas...I doubt it though, haha ;)
Good luck in your inspirational work! Take care!
I have been watching your podcasts for quite a while but it is only now that I have decided to comment))))))
Just saying thank you for the video. I could not agree more with everything.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Great video girl, I was already missing you! Please, can you talk about what you'd like to see in Loki season 2? I've made my own ideas and I'm very curious about yours! Love you
Thank you so much! Yes, it's very hard to find the time to make videos at the moment... I'm trying to keep uploading at least once every 3/4 weeks, but with analysis, it's difficult!
I'm not so good at speculating about things that haven't been released yet. Usually I prefer to analyze what we already have. But I'll think about doing a season 2 video! Maybe I'll wait until we're a bit closer to the release (it's still a LONG way ahead!)
Scene n.3 should have been definitely kept
Stupid move !How can you remove any loki scenes😫
I agree with you
Great video!! Totally agree!!
Great video!
They should’ve kept Loki and Thor flirts with her that’s the only thing
Just a thought, is it just me or does Loki seem very young in this movie, then aged up hereafter?
What do you mean?
Uh, well, Thor 1 was released in 2011, and time passed between films, naturally Tom can't look at his 40s still at 29 (although he's still awesome anyway)
Although in my opinion he looks quite young in the whole trilogy, outwardly age, ironically, is felt only in his series:)
@@miahopes Just meant that at times, Loki looks very young (like 17-19 y/o) in certain scenes of Thor 1, while in Avengers he looks more 22-25 y/o, though it is only a year later. Loki in these clips (and others from Thor 1) remind me of my youngest cousin, age 18. Or maybe my cousin is more mature than I think. Never claimed to be good at guessing ages. :)
@@ironiclife3099 Well, falling into the void is obviously not good for health and appearance... To me, Loki in Avengers doesn't look much older, he's just like a student who didn't sleep for a month before the session and went crazy :)
Can you add subtitles please?
Great video!
Ah yes, sorry, I always try to but for some reason, can't figure out why it doesn't work! Does it work now?
I wish I had the time to do proper subtitles. Initially I even thought I'd translate and sub everything in French (so at least my French family and friends who don't understand English could watch). But the process of creating videos is SOOOO time-consuming, it's just not a realistic option at the moment.
@@lottietalkie3142 No I'm sorry, it doesn't work here and in the previous video 😟 in the other videos it works...
Don't worry...english is not my language and subtitles help me when listening but thank you for trying 🤗
@@Arya0882 They're working now!
@@lottietalkie3142 It works! 🤩☺️ Oh thank you so much! You're amazing! 🤗I really appreciate it 😊
@@Arya0882 You're very welcome! I do not know why the automatic subs are not activating by themselves anymore, I'll try and make sure they do next time.