I used a folding shoe mounted sideways to have a straight edge just enough clearance to keep straight without damage to keep all pivot the same. I ran similar long time ago in the 80's
Credit : Machine 50%, Operator's skills 50% However, that bump and turn point is dangerous and unpredictable, remember some box are not meant to be folded by machines. In that case manual gluing is always a safer option.
@@michaelbeck5479 Well guess what. Here in Thailand I take them to prison workshop and I'd immediately have more than 1,000 well trained inmates to my disposal at dirt cheap labour cost!! I've made 10s of thousands $ from being middleman between local print houses and the prison I deal with!!!
avcomth Dude! That just fine in a 3rd world country. With all due respect, this is how you get shit done in the real world. And what do you mean by dangerous and unpredictable? This setup is solid. There’s no unpredictability about it. I don’t know what your level of expertise is regarding operating, but this kind of stuff is well within the realm of possibility. Manual gluing in these situations is laughable. If it needs to be hand folded and glued, then it’s not a folding carton in the true sense of the word. Credit: 30% machine and 70% operator skill. Sorry. Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point.
@@masterfolder3155 My factory in Thailand actually have the Bobst Expertfold 110 and Heidelberg Diana 80 with full integrated bump and turn options on the Diana. Both machines together costs over $5 millions brand new out of the box, unlike the outdated machine in this video. But 50% of the time, we still hire the (cheap) manual labours for the bump and turn jobs. The rate of loss in the bump and turn with machine still outnumbered properly trained manual labour for our production line.
Awesome skills. I had to run simulator on a 125 many years ago. Amazing how we set it up almost the same. Great minds think alike
I used a folding shoe mounted sideways to have a straight edge just enough clearance to keep straight without damage to keep all pivot the same. I ran similar long time ago in the 80's
How did you get it to turn without damaging the box when it hits the bar?
Good Job !
Keren 👍
maybe a slight belt pressure at the pivot point of the box?
1:50 this moment when always is working well after some hours snd 1 box scared jaja , impresive work
Profi.
Very good job...
Credit : Machine 50%, Operator's skills 50% However, that bump and turn point is dangerous and unpredictable, remember some box are not meant to be folded by machines. In that case manual gluing is always a safer option.
For small quantities, hand gluing is ok, but what if I have to glue 100,000 or more pieces
@@michaelbeck5479 Well guess what. Here in Thailand I take them to prison workshop and I'd immediately have more than 1,000 well trained inmates to my disposal at dirt cheap labour cost!! I've made 10s of thousands $ from being middleman between local print houses and the prison I deal with!!!
@@avcomth Ok, workers in Germany are very expensive, so we do it with the machine
avcomth Dude! That just fine in a 3rd world country. With all due respect, this is how you get shit done in the real world. And what do you mean by dangerous and unpredictable? This setup is solid. There’s no unpredictability about it. I don’t know what your level of expertise is regarding operating, but this kind of stuff is well within the realm of possibility. Manual gluing in these situations is laughable. If it needs to be hand folded and glued, then it’s not a folding carton in the true sense of the word. Credit: 30% machine and 70% operator skill.
Sorry. Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point.
@@masterfolder3155 My factory in Thailand actually have the Bobst Expertfold 110 and Heidelberg Diana 80 with full integrated bump and turn options on the Diana. Both machines together costs over $5 millions brand new out of the box, unlike the outdated machine in this video. But 50% of the time, we still hire the (cheap) manual labours for the bump and turn jobs. The rate of loss in the bump and turn with machine still outnumbered properly trained manual labour for our production line.