You guys keep failing to recognize that the screens have different coatings. Etched glass on the Voyage. Plastic on the PW3. That, along with possibly different front lights, is what accounts for the different screen appearance. It has nothing to do with whether or not it's recessed 2 mm.
I'm leaning more towards the Paperwhite myself. It's a bit more basic, but I don't really NEED a Kindle with more expensive features, I'm just the kind of person who'll just use it for reading books (not big on reading PDFs or comics in black and white). Plus the cheaper price for essentially the same hardware doesn't hurt either!
Thank you guys for this review. I came to see if there is a significant difference between the 2 versions and since the Voyage is going for $200 without much difference that'll bother me, I personally feel Paperwhite V. 3 is the way to go for me.
i dont really see a big difference between the voyage and the paperwhite in term of screen clarity. the voyage is just more white and i think the paperwhite is closer the real color of book papers. i go with paperwhite
I'd go with the paperwhite 3 also. I noticed the difference between the screen clarity, voyage being more white and paperwhite being a bit yellowish but not big of a deal since they both share the same resolution. The only thing that I like about the voyage is the auto brightness which is not present in the paperwhite and even the oasis. I like the design of the paperwhite and the amazon case is much better for paperwhite. I am not a fan of the origami case of the voyage where you flip it vertically vs. horizontally. I know you can buy 3rd party cases but still nothing can replace that form factor and quality of the amazon case for paperwhite. I also dont like the style of the rear of the voyage. I know these are all 1st world problems but these are just my opinion.
I just replaced my Paperwhite with a Voyage, and there's one reason I like the Voyage over the Paperwhite: the flush screen. I have two cats, and I vacuum often, but if there are any stray hairs in your living space at all, they WILL find their way into the space between the screen and the frame of the Paperwhite.
I've never had a problem reading my 1st gen Kindle Touch one handed. I could just tap the page on the right of left margin to turn the page. I don't have to swipe. I hope that hadn't changed in later Touch/Paperwhite models. I think I'm still leaning towards the Paperwhite 3 for $119. I've never had a Kindle with physical buttons for page turning, so I don't really feel the need for those. The auto-adjust lighting sounds like a really nice feature, but some of the reviews on Amazon say they always adjust it manually anyways.
I'm still using the paperwhite 1 and don't feel the need to upgrade. The screen is still pretty good and it's not very slow. And I still get everything the new ones get just not the bookerly font which isn't a huge deal. I'd still say to get the pw3 over the voyage. Better bang for your buck and the voyage doesn't really have much more for the price.
i want share my experience about Kindle Voyage. I am extremely dissatisfied with the product. One major problem with the device is gradient lighthing i.e the top half of the device is sepia tone while bottom half is white. This is not just a defect unique some devices but a manufacturing flaw across most devices. Once u see the change in color tone u cant unsee it and its awfully distracting especially in absence of ambient lighting. So guys save ur money get the PW3 its a better product.
also one more thing, bigtime tech reviewers are not talking about this flaw. So dont get swayed in favour of Voyage just because of vedios like this. Check out amazons customer reviews of voyage, they are very accurate. Lastly amazon is boasting that the glass screen on voyage is great. This is not the case at all. It is a fingerprint magnet + it does not even remotely mimick the texture of paper. PP3 screen is much better in this regard.
They are very similar. I guess to judge if the text seems clearer (as if there's more contrast) with a flush bezel one would have to see it in person. I guess that's the most important thing when they're practically the same.
hey Goodereader, if you look at the Amazon comparison page between the kindles, you'll see that the Paperwhite has 6 LED's while the Voyager has 8. That might be the reason the screen looks brighter and with better contrast.
For me, the Paperwhite is more than enough. I had the first gen, but left it behind during a vacation. It was perfectly usable, never felt i really need anything extra. That does not mean it could not be improved, of course. This means i will be happy with longer battery life, better screen, more memory. The extra features from the Voyage are not essential for me. Some i thin would actually annoy me. In the end, it is a mater of personal taste and needs. Nice review, by the way.
I went to a best but today to check them out side by side and the voyage looked kinda yellowish while the paperwhite looked, well white! Also, the voyage had a couple of lines on the screen, definitely defected. Is the yellowish a defect or does it really come like that? Thanks in advance :)
As a kindle 4th gen owner I have been interested in having a backlight and touch to look up a word so I searched up the paper white. For an $80 difference under the voyager I'd rather go with the PW but I will miss my side physical buttons.
After all the reviews you two have done it’s good to see you’re still having fun. Question: When you quote the price of Amazon Ereaders you do the Special Offers price, except for the Paperwhite which you always quote the without Special Offers price,$139 . Why not advertise the with S.O. price, $119. I like the special offers because Amazon’s stock screen savers suck! They are finger magnets as was pointed out. It might be interesting if you did a poll on how many people own an Ereader/Tablet without a case. If they bought the manufacturers case or an EBay knock off.
They seem mostly the same, but with the Oasis out now both are not very expensive. But in the UK the Voyage doesn't seem to be available new anymore, just refurbished while the Paperwhite is
Lava Yuki I saw that too here in the US. I think there will not be a Voyage 2! It makes me nervous to buy a refurb, but the price is so good right now I am tempted.
Hi! I just wanted to update viewers that Bookerly font as well as enhanced typesetting engine (chief USP's of the Paperwhite 3) have come to the Kindle Voyage as well as Paperwhite 2 recently via a software update.
Thank you for the review: I have a crucial question that hopefully somebody will be able to answer: if the Voyage is covered by glass, doesn't it mean that it behaves like a tablet when exposed to light? I'm afraid of getting reflexes and glare.
+David García de Fórmica-Corsi I'd like to add that a reason for me not to buy the Paperwhite is because the screen is below surface and, a result, there's some shade. Of course, I prefer shade to glare, in case there's any.
The claim is that the glass is 'micro etched" or, in other words, it's been intentionally scratched up to reduce glare. Apparently it works pretty well as most reviews talk about how much sharper the voyage is.
thanks for the review but I don't really see the difference that would make me spend an extra $80 - $100 for a smaller, shinier shell and buttons. I never use max light so the slight white difference is not too concerning especially since the letters seemed more gray ( less black) would you know why max light whiteness would be a better deal?
Great review, guys! Thanks! One question: As I understand it, it's possible to tap the screen of the Paperwwhite to turn pages. You always swipe though. Maybe it's just habit? Tapping would make it more usable with one hand.
Do you have to swipe on the papewhite 3 to change pages? I have a paperwhite 1 and you only have to touch the screen on the right to turn the page and touch the screen on the left to go back a page.
When do you think amazon will release their new unit, and if so. Do you think it will be avaible in sweden? :P, if not would you recommend to get paperwhite 3, because its alot cheaper here in sweden than the voyage, and then wait for amazons new device
Voyage 3G model seems like a waste of money over wi-fi for an aging cellular technology. I have a LTE iPad and rarely have a need for the cellular data.
I am going to be doing this too. Instead of paying for 3g that i'll probably never use, i figured, if I did need the internet to download a book or whatever while i'm out, i'll just use my cellphones hotspot.
Please Goodereader, does the glass front on the Voyage make it more delicate than the Paperwhite that has a plastic front? Also, are the etchings different? PS. Great video, as always. You guys make it sound sk friendly as if my own friends were explaining it to me. :)
I had the old PW2, and now I read on the Voyage. The PW2 felt weird on my finger, there was an odd textured feeling to it I really didn't care for. The Voyage however, feels like any other tablet/phone screen. Just my two cents.
+NOSfusion the micro-etching must be to check glare, but, I believe at the cost of clarity. Does that mean you would either lose high clarity or face lcd-like glare?
Charlie Hervé The Voyage works fine in bright daylight to read with. The contrast is amazing. However, if you have the kindle under direct sunlight there is a bit of glare. That bit of glare, is nothing like an ipad or smart phone. Still very readable.
I think I will get the PW3... I plane to read stuffs in many languages and one of them is Japanese, so I need to have as much characters on screen as possible while maintaining a good font... And since the PW with that font lets you see an additional word, it should add at least, one character more (which in Japanese can tell how you need to pronounce it)
Amazon has a 3 SKU strategy now. The Kindle, which is their entry level device. The Paperwhite which is mid-tier and the Oasis 2 which is their flagship.
@@goodereader thanks that was very helpful. I always thought that basically it is same device but some people call it kindle ereader and some people call it kindle paperwhite ereader.
+Paige Sherwood-Rice Not necessarily. I have the first gen PW at the moment, and I have about 320 books on it at the moment, and they're mostly AZW3 files imported from calibre, and most of them are less than 1MB, but a great deal, probably 10-20%, are more than 1MB, with more than 10% being more than 10MB, with the biggest ones being into the 20's or 30's typically. 1GB = 1,000 MB. If I wanted to actually average it out and say the average of all of my books ends up being 5MB, then that means I'd get less than 800 books on a 4GB device (less than because you never get a pure-size drive, it's always less with the firmware and other stuff, dictionaries, browser, whatnot). The larger ones tend to include publisher fonts, and being a PW1 owner that can't jailbreak anymore, I'm super pissed that I'm restricted to these default 6 fonts unless I re-encode all of my books in calibre with "publisher font" mode, which would jack up all of my books to like 30mb a piece at least... Needless to say, I'm not enjoying Cecilia or Futura, and I'm aching for this new supposed Voyage 2 to release already so I can make the leap and get better fonts like Bookerly on the device without needing to refont book files and bloat their size. I read too damn much and my library is already crying for more than the paltry 2GB on my PW1 and these horrendous fonts. Plus, it seems the jailbreak community is more on top of the newer devices, and the PW1 is officially "outdated" for anyone who reads more than occasionally. Regards.
You guys keep failing to recognize that the screens have different coatings. Etched glass on the Voyage. Plastic on the PW3. That, along with possibly different front lights, is what accounts for the different screen appearance. It has nothing to do with whether or not it's recessed 2 mm.
I'm leaning more towards the Paperwhite myself. It's a bit more basic, but I don't really NEED a Kindle with more expensive features, I'm just the kind of person who'll just use it for reading books (not big on reading PDFs or comics in black and white). Plus the cheaper price for essentially the same hardware doesn't hurt either!
Thank you guys for this review. I came to see if there is a significant difference between the 2 versions and since the Voyage is going for $200 without much difference that'll bother me, I personally feel Paperwhite V. 3 is the way to go for me.
+crimson2knight good points Crimson !
The voyage has the best, sharpest screen ever, and still to this day, among all kindles. Many have recognized this
Totally agree, even oasis 2nd gen is less sharp than the voyage
i dont really see a big difference between the voyage and the paperwhite in term of screen clarity. the voyage is just more white and i think the paperwhite is closer the real color of book papers. i go with paperwhite
its not a night and day difference, no
I'd go with the paperwhite 3 also. I noticed the difference between the screen clarity, voyage being more white and paperwhite being a bit yellowish but not big of a deal since they both share the same resolution. The only thing that I like about the voyage is the auto brightness which is not present in the paperwhite and even the oasis. I like the design of the paperwhite and the amazon case is much better for paperwhite. I am not a fan of the origami case of the voyage where you flip it vertically vs. horizontally. I know you can buy 3rd party cases but still nothing can replace that form factor and quality of the amazon case for paperwhite. I also dont like the style of the rear of the voyage. I know these are all 1st world problems but these are just my opinion.
I just replaced my Paperwhite with a Voyage, and there's one reason I like the Voyage over the Paperwhite: the flush screen. I have two cats, and I vacuum often, but if there are any stray hairs in your living space at all, they WILL find their way into the space between the screen and the frame of the Paperwhite.
Great
Kyle VanWagner damn cats.
I've never had a problem reading my 1st gen Kindle Touch one handed. I could just tap the page on the right of left margin to turn the page. I don't have to swipe. I hope that hadn't changed in later Touch/Paperwhite models.
I think I'm still leaning towards the Paperwhite 3 for $119. I've never had a Kindle with physical buttons for page turning, so I don't really feel the need for those. The auto-adjust lighting sounds like a really nice feature, but some of the reviews on Amazon say they always adjust it manually anyways.
sunsetsorbet good comment !
manual for paperwhite claims exactly same behaviour you've described.
I'm still using the paperwhite 1 and don't feel the need to upgrade. The screen is still pretty good and it's not very slow. And I still get everything the new ones get just not the bookerly font which isn't a huge deal. I'd still say to get the pw3 over the voyage. Better bang for your buck and the voyage doesn't really have much more for the price.
i want share my experience about Kindle Voyage. I am extremely dissatisfied with the product. One major problem with the device is gradient lighthing i.e the top half of the device is sepia tone while bottom half is white. This is not just a defect unique some devices but a manufacturing flaw across most devices. Once u see the change in color tone u cant unsee it and its awfully distracting especially in absence of ambient lighting. So guys save ur money get the PW3 its a better product.
also one more thing, bigtime tech reviewers are not talking about this flaw. So dont get swayed in favour of Voyage just because of vedios like this. Check out amazons customer reviews of voyage, they are very accurate. Lastly amazon is boasting that the glass screen on voyage is great. This is not the case at all. It is a fingerprint magnet + it does not even remotely mimick the texture of paper. PP3 screen is much better in this regard.
+Azhor Ahai
exactly i almost bought a voyage but decided to go with pw3 due to high defects and screen compliants on amazone site.
***** Very wise decision. I wish I had the same sensibility when I decided to buy the Voyage. Now I am lumped with it :(
Thanks for the videos, i'm going for the PW3, it's very similar to the voyager, 89€ earned (now there's a -30€ offert in Italy). Great!
They are very similar. I guess to judge if the text seems clearer (as if there's more contrast) with a flush bezel one would have to see it in person. I guess that's the most important thing when they're practically the same.
Check the bar at the top of the screen.... "Peters 13th Kindle" ...that's a lot of kindles! Lol 😊
haha yeah mostly review units !
hey Goodereader, if you look at the Amazon comparison page between the kindles, you'll see that the Paperwhite has 6 LED's while the Voyager has 8. That might be the reason the screen looks brighter and with better contrast.
my mistake, the Paperwhite has 4 and the Voyager has 6, while the Oasis has 10
thanks for the comment AF!
It would really irritate me to have it vibrate every time I change the page. Can this feature be disabled?
+Gitana Shimmy yes. why you are think about vibrator.. thats ur problem.. haha
Nice set up for a joke, poor execution on the punch line
I prefer a recessed screen over a flush mooted screen (Less scratches).
vibration sensitive = haptic feedback
Love your profile picture.
Love your profile picture.
+Charlie Hervé Oh thanks! :)
For me, the Paperwhite is more than enough. I had the first gen, but left it behind during a vacation. It was perfectly usable, never felt i really need anything extra. That does not mean it could not be improved, of course. This means i will be happy with longer battery life, better screen, more memory. The extra features from the Voyage are not essential for me. Some i thin would actually annoy me. In the end, it is a mater of personal taste and needs.
Nice review, by the way.
Nice simple review.
I read somewhere that Kindle Paperwhite 3 has plastic screen and Kindle Voyage glass screen.
I went to a best but today to check them out side by side and the voyage looked kinda yellowish while the paperwhite looked, well white! Also, the voyage had a couple of lines on the screen, definitely defected. Is the yellowish a defect or does it really come like that?
Thanks in advance :)
As a kindle 4th gen owner I have been interested in having a backlight and touch to look up a word so I searched up the paper white. For an $80 difference under the voyager I'd rather go with the PW but I will miss my side physical buttons.
Also. It's an additional $20 to get any Kindle without special offers. Not $30 or $40.
Very happy with my Voyage.
After all the reviews you two have done it’s good to see you’re still having fun.
Question: When you quote the price of Amazon Ereaders you do the Special Offers price, except for the Paperwhite which you always quote the without Special Offers price,$139 . Why not advertise the with S.O. price, $119.
I like the special offers because Amazon’s stock screen savers suck!
They are finger magnets as was pointed out.
It might be interesting if you did a poll on how many people own an Ereader/Tablet without a case.
If they bought the manufacturers case or an EBay knock off.
Still on paperwhite 3. Why we must spent more money for just a not important features?
thats the reason companies like amazon survive,
Can you turn OFF the vibrating page-turn feature on the Kindle Voyage? That is a deal-breaker for us, as we don't like the vibration.
They seem mostly the same, but with the Oasis out now both are not very expensive. But in the UK the Voyage doesn't seem to be available new anymore, just refurbished while the Paperwhite is
Lava Yuki I saw that too here in the US. I think there will not be a Voyage 2! It makes me nervous to buy a refurb, but the price is so good right now I am tempted.
Kindle touch had Audible books, mp3, speakers, and headphone jack. Why pay more for less? That's why Amazon is offering to buy them back...
Hi! I just wanted to update viewers that Bookerly font as well as enhanced typesetting engine (chief USP's of the Paperwhite 3) have come to the Kindle Voyage as well as Paperwhite 2 recently via a software update.
Thank you for the review: I have a crucial question that hopefully somebody will be able to answer: if the Voyage is covered by glass, doesn't it mean that it behaves like a tablet when exposed to light? I'm afraid of getting reflexes and glare.
+David García de Fórmica-Corsi I'd like to add that a reason for me not to buy the Paperwhite is because the screen is below surface and, a result, there's some shade. Of course, I prefer shade to glare, in case there's any.
It is supposed to,have zero glare...
The claim is that the glass is 'micro etched" or, in other words, it's been intentionally scratched up to reduce glare. Apparently it works pretty well as most reviews talk about how much sharper the voyage is.
thanks for the review but I don't really see the difference that would make me spend an extra $80 - $100 for a smaller, shinier shell and buttons. I never use max light so the slight white difference is not too concerning especially since the letters seemed more gray ( less black) would you know why max light whiteness would be a better deal?
well it woult be a better deal because its of higher quality
what is the pagepress?? that they said in their site
Great review, guys! Thanks! One question: As I understand it, it's possible to tap the screen of the Paperwwhite to turn pages. You always swipe though. Maybe it's just habit? Tapping would make it more usable with one hand.
A. R. Fontecilla Correct. You can easily tap the screen with your thumb while holding it with one hand to turn the pages.
Gregg H Thanks, Gregg!
how can I go to specific page in kindle voyage?
Do you have to swipe on the papewhite 3 to change pages? I have a paperwhite 1 and you only have to touch the screen on the right to turn the page and touch the screen on the left to go back a page.
Wonderful review Michael, and Peter was ok too ;) Guys do you think it's worth getting a Voyage now, or waiting a few weeks for a potential Voyage 2?
Sarfaraz Hussein Merchant i would wait until amazon announces their new units before making any decisions
When do you think amazon will release their new unit, and if so. Do you think it will be avaible in sweden? :P, if not would you recommend to get paperwhite 3, because its alot cheaper here in sweden than the voyage, and then wait for amazons new device
+Fille m it will be this fall for sure
Voyage 3G model seems like a waste of money over wi-fi for an aging cellular technology. I have a LTE iPad and rarely have a need for the cellular data.
it not data like you think, you can only use it to go to the amazon book store, you cannt actually browse like you could on the kindle keyboard
I agree, you can always tether to your phone to get wifi
I am going to be doing this too. Instead of paying for 3g that i'll probably never use, i figured, if I did need the internet to download a book or whatever while i'm out, i'll just use my cellphones hotspot.
why is the screen flickers when the page changed or navigate to new page? Is it the default behaviour?
Yes, that is how e ink works
Juggling a baby... Who does that?
Mike does! ;)
Am I the only one who likes Voyage more?
Please Goodereader, does the glass front on the Voyage make it more delicate than the Paperwhite that has a plastic front? Also, are the etchings different?
PS. Great video, as always. You guys make it sound sk friendly as if my own friends were explaining it to me. :)
I had the old PW2, and now I read on the Voyage. The PW2 felt weird on my finger, there was an odd textured feeling to it I really didn't care for. The Voyage however, feels like any other tablet/phone screen. Just my two cents.
+NOSfusion the micro-etching must be to check glare, but, I believe at the cost of clarity. Does that mean you would either lose high clarity or face lcd-like glare?
Charlie Hervé The Voyage works fine in bright daylight to read with. The contrast is amazing. However, if you have the kindle under direct sunlight there is a bit of glare. That bit of glare, is nothing like an ipad or smart phone. Still very readable.
+NOSfusion thanks for taking the time to reply. :)
Charlie Hervé Yeah no problem. Good luck with your purchase!
I think I will get the PW3... I plane to read stuffs in many languages and one of them is Japanese, so I need to have as much characters on screen as possible while maintaining a good font... And since the PW with that font lets you see an additional word, it should add at least, one character more (which in Japanese can tell how you need to pronounce it)
ARe all the ebook black and white?
I went with the whitepaper because it’s cheaper. and because I already have a iPad and iPhone.
Kindle touch also had Text to Speech....
i never got one how many book they can hold?
I read in the dark, so I'm guessing that I have to buy the Voyage
+browneyestt Not at all! Kindle Paperwhite has LED's onboard, too.
+Onur A. thanks for your response. I think that seals the deal for me
Kindle paperwhite and kindle ereaders are different series of ereaders??
Amazon has a 3 SKU strategy now. The Kindle, which is their entry level device. The Paperwhite which is mid-tier and the Oasis 2 which is their flagship.
@@goodereader thanks that was very helpful.
I always thought that basically it is same device but some people call it kindle ereader and some people call it kindle paperwhite ereader.
paperwhite just looks so much better...
I have lots of epubs, can it be opened on this device? Will it cumbersome?
Kindles don't use the epub format. They use the mobi format
You can convert epubs to kindle's format by using a program called Calibre, it's a bit of a hassle but not too bad.
pokemon
i never got one how many book they can hold?
They have 4GB it can hold thousands of books :)
+Paige Sherwood-Rice
Not necessarily. I have the first gen PW at the moment, and I have about 320 books on it at the moment, and they're mostly AZW3 files imported from calibre, and most of them are less than 1MB, but a great deal, probably 10-20%, are more than 1MB, with more than 10% being more than 10MB, with the biggest ones being into the 20's or 30's typically.
1GB = 1,000 MB. If I wanted to actually average it out and say the average of all of my books ends up being 5MB, then that means I'd get less than 800 books on a 4GB device (less than because you never get a pure-size drive, it's always less with the firmware and other stuff, dictionaries, browser, whatnot).
The larger ones tend to include publisher fonts, and being a PW1 owner that can't jailbreak anymore, I'm super pissed that I'm restricted to these default 6 fonts unless I re-encode all of my books in calibre with "publisher font" mode, which would jack up all of my books to like 30mb a piece at least... Needless to say, I'm not enjoying Cecilia or Futura, and I'm aching for this new supposed Voyage 2 to release already so I can make the leap and get better fonts like Bookerly on the device without needing to refont book files and bloat their size. I read too damn much and my library is already crying for more than the paltry 2GB on my PW1 and these horrendous fonts. Plus, it seems the jailbreak community is more on top of the newer devices, and the PW1 is officially "outdated" for anyone who reads more than occasionally.
Regards.
+FunOfTheChase that is very true, thank you :)