Rubinstein literally owned this piece. It was dedicated to him and he had done it with authoritative justice. It was such a shame that they actually allowed more than 3 minutes of introductory talk rather than let the music conclude in at most 3 minutes. Such sacrilegious idiocy 🙄
There are several MARVELLOUS moments in this performance! Interesting to think Rubinstein probably played and 'worked' this master piece with Villa-Lobos, himself! Anyhow, this performance is full of ideas which were not written on the score. I'll surely listen to it again! Geert Dehoux, pianist.
Wow, my admiration for Rubinstein has just gone up several notches. I never knew that he had actually *played* this fiendish piece. He does a great job in bringing out the big lines and focusing on what is important. The piece suddenly seems to make more sense to me than in a modern recording where you can hear every note and Rudepoema can easily become a wall of loud noise. Thanks for posting ! Quite maddening that we shall never get to hear the ending. Had they not talked so much at the beginning of the show, it might have fitted....
***** Thank you for such critique. I recently became interesting about knowing the performers/maestros instead of just get pieces played by random names. I love when I see people doing such comments on these videos, even when it look a little harsh, it's always worthy reading. Thanks, sir!
The best performing of Rudepoema is that one by Roberto Szidon, in my opinion. Everything is clean . With score ruclips.net/video/tRLFy9b3jy4/видео.html
Chris Breemer, I respect you as a senior pianist and admire your records of many pieces, but... I think that is not possible because some of the most rushed interpretations of this piece don't even get close to the total time recording in this video. Hamelin plays it in 17m39s, not counting the silence in the beginning and the reverberation wich might to reduce the time to 17m20s. The time of this video is 15m47s. I don't know anyone capable of to play the RUDEPOEMA in such time. We'll never know what or how M. Rubinstein played on the very end...
@@codonauta For us, brazilians, the most incredible performance was recorded in a vertical piano played by Arthur Moreira Lima: plenty of rhythms, subtle nuances, fierce and local colours. Also good is the record made by Clara Sverner. But Szidon is, in fact, something of other planet!!! The pianos sonatas cycle by Scriabin played by Mr Szidon is a historical mark, no doubt about that, as that record of Rudepoema mentioned by you.
@@NelsonPinheirojr Hello, I never saw your comment until now. Thanks for the compliment ! But otherwise I'm a bit confused on what you're saying here. What do you think is not possible ? If Rubinstein's performance would not fit in the broadcast they should have extended it, instead of callously truncating a herculean effort like this. As for Hamelin, his speed in the finale is just ridiculous... much as I admire it technically. It sounds about twice as fast as that as Anna-Stella Schic (who admittedly is notably slowing down here, clearly tired and technically taxed at the end of an otherwise great performance). I'll have to listen to Szidon's version one day, though I guess Freire may be worth it as well if not more. And also Moreira Lima on your recommendation. How I regret this fascinating piece is beyond my limits...
a revelation perf by Rubinstein and live! however: sacrilege not to hv extended th broadcast to complete his perf. wow thus lost to posterity a great moment.
Documento de valor inestimável para a Música Erudita do século XX, pois que Villa-Lobos e Rubinstein foram das maiores personalidades musicais mundiais desse século.
Where this was played, in which city? There is a reference that Rubinstein played that in premiere in Salle Gaveau, Paris in 1927. But It was before this
I got it. It was in a Brazilian Music Festival happened in the Museum of Modern Art of New York in 1940. You can see here www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.moma.org/docs/press_archives/632/releases/MOMA_1940_0063_1940-09-26_40926-56.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwid0dGK667uAhUvIrkGHd2MBkMQFjAKegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0WfIqLrB2n9ku6bOWI6aVk www.moma.org › releasesPDF artur rubinstein heads list of artists for brazilian music festival - Moma
Rubinstein literally owned this piece. It was dedicated to him and he had done it with authoritative justice.
It was such a shame that they actually allowed more than 3 minutes of introductory talk rather than let the music conclude in at most 3 minutes.
Such sacrilegious idiocy 🙄
Mr. Rubinstein, one of the best Chopin performers playing Villa Lobos. Wonderful.
There are several MARVELLOUS moments in this performance!
Interesting to think Rubinstein probably played and 'worked' this master piece with Villa-Lobos, himself!
Anyhow, this performance is full of ideas which were not written on the score.
I'll surely listen to it again!
Geert Dehoux, pianist.
Wow, my admiration for Rubinstein has just gone up several notches. I never knew that he had actually *played* this fiendish piece. He does a great job in bringing out the big lines and focusing on what is important. The piece suddenly seems to make more sense to me than in a modern recording where you can hear every note and Rudepoema can easily become a wall of loud noise. Thanks for posting !
Quite maddening that we shall never get to hear the ending. Had they not talked so much at the beginning of the show, it might have fitted....
***** Thank you for such critique. I recently became interesting about knowing the performers/maestros instead of just get pieces played by random names. I love when I see people doing such comments on these videos, even when it look a little harsh, it's always worthy reading. Thanks, sir!
The best performing of Rudepoema is that one by Roberto Szidon, in my opinion. Everything is clean . With score ruclips.net/video/tRLFy9b3jy4/видео.html
Chris Breemer, I respect you as a senior pianist and admire your records of many pieces, but... I think that is not possible because some of the most rushed interpretations of this piece don't even get close to the total time recording in this video. Hamelin plays it in 17m39s, not counting the silence in the beginning and the reverberation wich might to reduce the time to 17m20s. The time of this video is 15m47s. I don't know anyone capable of to play the RUDEPOEMA in such time. We'll never know what or how M. Rubinstein played on the very end...
@@codonauta For us, brazilians, the most incredible performance was recorded in a vertical piano played by Arthur Moreira Lima: plenty of rhythms, subtle nuances, fierce and local colours. Also good is the record made by Clara Sverner. But Szidon is, in fact, something of other planet!!! The pianos sonatas cycle by Scriabin played by Mr Szidon is a historical mark, no doubt about that, as that record of Rudepoema mentioned by you.
@@NelsonPinheirojr Hello, I never saw your comment until now. Thanks for the compliment ! But otherwise I'm a bit confused on what you're saying here. What do you think is not possible ? If Rubinstein's performance would not fit in the broadcast they should have extended it, instead of callously truncating a herculean effort like this. As for Hamelin, his speed in the finale is just ridiculous... much as I admire it technically. It sounds about twice as fast as that as Anna-Stella Schic (who admittedly is notably slowing down here, clearly tired and technically taxed at the end of an otherwise great performance). I'll have to listen to Szidon's version one day, though I guess Freire may be worth it as well if not more. And also Moreira Lima on your recommendation. How I regret this fascinating piece is beyond my limits...
a revelation perf by Rubinstein and live! however: sacrilege not to hv extended th broadcast to complete his perf. wow thus lost to posterity a great moment.
Fin de la mentira acerca de que Rubinstein no gustó del Rudepoema y nunca lo tocó...
Bravo!!!
Bello.......unica registrazione forse nota...ed il cronista che ci parla sopra...e viene pure tagliato........non ho parole!
Skaze una sciagura.
Rudepoema was composed for and dedicated to Rubinstein By H.Villa Lobos. Details en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudepo%C3%AAma
Relíquia.
Is great
Um grande achado!
3:05
Documento de valor inestimável para a Música Erudita do século XX, pois que Villa-Lobos e Rubinstein foram das maiores personalidades musicais mundiais desse século.
the piece starts at 3:06
Where this was played, in which city? There is a reference that Rubinstein played that in premiere in Salle Gaveau, Paris in 1927. But It was before this
I got it. It was in a Brazilian Music Festival happened in the Museum of Modern Art of New York in 1940. You can see here www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.moma.org/docs/press_archives/632/releases/MOMA_1940_0063_1940-09-26_40926-56.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwid0dGK667uAhUvIrkGHd2MBkMQFjAKegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0WfIqLrB2n9ku6bOWI6aVk www.moma.org › releasesPDF
artur rubinstein heads list of artists for brazilian music festival - Moma
Where did you find this?? I've been searching and searching for this performance and MoMA doesn't have it anymore.
Renato Buchert Collectors...
very nice recording ! Do you know the reference of the broadcast? thanks !
They wasted 3 minutes talking at the beginning and lost the last 3 minutes of the piece itself. Does it get more stupid than that ?
Why the final part was cutt off?
the broadcast time was over