The Bears were completely robbed blind by the Refs. in the Eagles playoff game. The holding call on the Payton TD run, and the Pass Interference Call on Ellis. The latter was even worse because Ellis had the position and was intercepting the ball when the WR ran in to him. The referees were a complete embarrassment in that game.
@@SECRETARIATguy224And a total BS call. Payton and the Bears were robbed by Pat Harder's lousy officiating. Baschnagel was in motion but he never turned upfield like Harder claimed he did, replay confirms this.
For some Brickhouse optimism, Bears were ripped by Refs against Eagles, they beat the Rams, split with Tampa. so the Bears could easily have been in the Superbowl had calls gone their way.
5:54 I remember Vince Evans had just entered the game, replacing an ineffective Mike Phipps, and then he just unleashed this BOMB of a TD throw to James Scott. I was completely amazed, wondering why they were keeping a guy with that kind of arm on the bench. I even went as far to think , "hey, maybe the Bears have solved their perennial QB problem". Unfortunately, it was not to be, but Vince Evans did have some good moments (1979 against Dallas, 1980 against Detroit at the Silverdome, 1980 at home against the Packers).
The Bears should have made Evans the starter period and stuck with it, and got him a good QB coach. I think Armstrong did bring in Marchibroda to work with Evans, meh. How about Sam Wyche, or someone else from Walsh’s staff instead. Evans should have stayed on instead of going to the other league, as under Ditka evans would have been an excellent backup QB, and would have seen a ton of playing time with mcMahon injured so much. I’d much rather bring Evans off the bench throwing to Gault, than Fuller, Avelini, Rusty, etc.
@@CJinsoo Good points. They probably would have fared much better with Evans in the 1984 NFC Championship game, and Evans would have cashed in on a SB ring with the 85 Bears.
Not sure if the Bears forgot to watch this video after the 79 season, or watched it too much? But 79 was the only winning season for the Armstrong era, and they followed it with 7-9, 6-10, duds. The defense was playoff caliber every season, and improving. love seeing Hampton as a Rookie. But the offense after Payton was still inept and self destructed. Evans was not a pro bowl player, but compared to Avelini and Phipps,Evans is the future and they should have committed to him. The OL was suspect, especially pass blocking, and although scott was an excellent free agent signing, the WRs were mediocre at best, although a big Baschnagel fan.
I love John, the perfect narrative guy. He made those lousy teams sound interesting. NFL is so commercial today that everyone and everything is saturated with blah blah blah. U can't even hit any longer. Breath on qb, and u get a 15-yard penalty. Plank #46 would be suspended today.
The 1979 NFL draft was held in May of that year. The Bears were in desperate need of a new quarterback. Jim Finks had at least *three* opportunities to draft Joe Montana. He chose someone else all three times -- and all three players turned out to be busts.
Dan Hampton and Al Harris (both first round picks, 1979) were the complete opposite of busts, especially when you consider that Hampton ended up in the Hall of Fame and Harris had a long career with the Bears. An argument could be made that Rickey Watts (second round) was bust-like (he did disappoint on many an occasion), although he did have better moments than busts usually have. The third round pick (and picked ahead of Montana), Willie McClendon, was a total bust, no doubt about it, and that was the pick they were going to take Montana with and had cold feet at the last moment. Coulda, woulda, shoulda, and didna. The thinking was that Walter Payton wasn't going to hold up and McClendon was going to be his replacement, which was ridiculous given that (a) Payton lasted 9 more seasons, some of which were among his very best, and (b) they badly, badly needed a QB.
@@russellmurray3964 I wasn't referring to Harris, but to Rickey Watts (2nd round pick) and Willie McClendon (3rd round pick). Both were picked over Montana.
Don’t forget 26 other teams passed on Montana also. To be honest I don’t think Montana develops playing for the bears probably gets injured and fades away
MOntana could have been drafted in spring of 1979 as some simpleton noted here-- BEars would have first better off acquiring Ozzie Newsome the YEAR Before-- Finks I think dealt that potential pick away beforehand
Yeah and the Bears got cheated in Philly in that playoff game. I was a little kid then but a big Bear fan. They were the hottest team in all of football in the second half of the season going 7-1 just to get in to the playoffs. If they hadn’t have gotten jobbed in Philly by the zebras 🦓 they would have beaten them by at least 20 points. Then they would have won the rematch in Dallas I believe then beat the Rams agin for the second time that season. However I do not think that they would have won Super Bowl XIV against the Steelers. But I do believe that the Bears would have put up even more of a fight as the Rams did and almost win. Rams RB Wendell Tyler has a nice day against the Steelers and I know the great Walter Payton would have tripled that.
@GIL Favor But in “THAT GAME” the Bears were the better team and out played Philly. The Bears were the hottest team in the NFL at that time going 7-1 the second half of the season to even make the playoffs.
@GIL Favor True Dat but at least the Chicago Bears would have gotten there. Plus the four teams that were left in the divisional round the Bears beat two of them in Tampa & the LA Rams, they would have beaten Philly if they hadn’t have been jobbed by the zebras 🦓 that called themselves referees and the league!! And the fourth team Dallas the Bears had them Beaton Dallas in game two of the season if it not had been for the great Roger Staubach pulling out one of his Roger Staubach specials on a last minute game winning drive to win 24-20.
@GIL Favor Vince Evans was a better quarterback but he was recovering from a staff infection that could have killed him and Phipps was hot. I’m just glad that Bob Avellini didn’t play that season that dude was the worst Chicago Bears quarterback since Bobby Douglas, they were both god awful.
I don’t understand the reason for the terrible backtracking of the Bears in 1980 and 81. 82 was a strike shortened season and this team only came back alive in the second half of the 83 season going from 3-7 to 8-8. That defense if anything was going to get even better in the next few years. Unfortunately, neither Phipps nor Evans worked out so well for Chicago. Even in that magical 79 season, they were still in the bottom fourth in all passing statistics. Teams really focused on Payton without a solid passing game to take the pressure off. Things would only change when Jim McMahon was drafted, the O line was beefed up and they got guys like Gault and McKinnon on the edge. Idk why Watts and Scott did not develop for the Bears. Does anyone know why? The next few years would be the most bitter disappointment. It would turn out 1977 and 79 were just a bitter tease for the fan base who thought Chicago was far closer than it actually was
Watts was one of those receivers who could make great plays and then unfortunately mix in some annoying drops, Exhibit A being the sure 6 that he dropped from Mike Phipps early in the '79 playoff game against the Eagles. He was never able to turn the corner on this and was cut after the '83 season by Mike Ditka, who did not look kindly upon the dropsies. The story with Scott was markedly different, in that he did develop and by '79 was the Bears' #1 receiver and legitimate deep threat. The problem was, he was injured early in '79 during the first meeting with Detroit, missing the remainder of the season and the playoff game. When he returned in '80, the offense was out of whack (business as usual for the Bears) and his on-field performance dipped a bit. After the '80 season, he made the decision to leave and sign with the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL, a disaster in retrospect since even though he got more money, the Alouettes were a massive failure both on the field and at the gate. When he returned to the Bears in '82, Ditka was the new sheriff in town and by '83 Gault and McKinnon were the #1's, with Scott being buried on the depth chart. He barely played those last two season, was cut after '83, and never played in the NFL again. So, between an injury, an ill-advised move to the CFL, and a coach named Ditka who had better options available, Scott's NFL career failed to optimally develop.
the league should have delayed the game until conditions improved, but the Eagles cost themselves that game with mistake after mistake before the fog rolled in.
"You know, I've got a feeling that the '80s will be a good decade for the Bears."
They had to wait another 4 agonizing years for that prediction to be true
They just needed to purchase a kitchen appliance in order to become champions.
The Bears were completely robbed blind by the Refs. in the Eagles playoff game. The holding call on the Payton TD run, and the Pass Interference Call on Ellis. The latter was even worse because Ellis had the position and was intercepting the ball when the WR ran in to him. The referees were a complete embarrassment in that game.
It was illegal motion on the Payton run.
@@SECRETARIATguy224And a total BS call. Payton and the Bears were robbed by Pat Harder's lousy officiating. Baschnagel was in motion but he never turned upfield like Harder claimed he did, replay confirms this.
@@russellmurray3964 Cashion. Red Cashion was his name.
Yeah, it was illegal motion on Brian Baschnagel who was in motion, BUT he never moved forward. So that call was bs and I never got over that.
Doug Planks # was 46, he was the name of the Legendary 46 Defense
Tough hard nosed team back in ‘79
For some Brickhouse optimism, Bears were ripped by Refs against Eagles, they beat the Rams, split with Tampa. so the Bears could easily have been in the Superbowl had calls gone their way.
Not sure they could have beaten Rams.@CJinsoo
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Dennis Lick was your cousin? Cool!
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5:54 I remember Vince Evans had just entered the game, replacing an ineffective Mike Phipps, and then he just unleashed this BOMB of a TD throw to James Scott. I was completely amazed, wondering why they were keeping a guy with that kind of arm on the bench. I even went as far to think , "hey, maybe the Bears have solved their perennial QB problem". Unfortunately, it was not to be, but Vince Evans did have some good moments (1979 against Dallas, 1980 against Detroit at the Silverdome, 1980 at home against the Packers).
The Bears should have made Evans the starter period and stuck with it, and got him a good QB coach. I think Armstrong did bring in Marchibroda to work with Evans, meh. How about Sam Wyche, or someone else from Walsh’s staff instead. Evans should have stayed on instead of going to the other league, as under Ditka evans would have been an excellent backup QB, and would have seen a ton of playing time with mcMahon injured so much. I’d much rather bring Evans off the bench throwing to Gault, than Fuller, Avelini, Rusty, etc.
@@CJinsoo Good points. They probably would have fared much better with Evans in the 1984 NFC Championship game, and Evans would have cashed in on a SB ring with the 85 Bears.
Not sure if the Bears forgot to watch this video after the 79 season, or watched it too much? But 79 was the only winning season for the Armstrong era, and they followed it with 7-9, 6-10, duds. The defense was playoff caliber every season, and improving. love seeing Hampton as a Rookie. But the offense after Payton was still inept and self destructed. Evans was not a pro bowl player, but compared to Avelini and Phipps,Evans is the future and they should have committed to him. The OL was suspect, especially pass blocking, and although scott was an excellent free agent signing, the WRs were mediocre at best, although a big Baschnagel fan.
I love John, the perfect narrative guy. He made those lousy teams sound interesting. NFL is so commercial today that everyone and everything is saturated with blah blah blah. U can't even hit any longer. Breath on qb, and u get a 15-yard penalty. Plank #46 would be suspended today.
The 1979 NFL draft was held in May of that year. The Bears were in desperate need of a new quarterback. Jim Finks had at least *three* opportunities to draft Joe Montana. He chose someone else all three times -- and all three players turned out to be busts.
Dan Hampton and Al Harris (both first round picks, 1979) were the complete opposite of busts, especially when you consider that Hampton ended up in the Hall of Fame and Harris had a long career with the Bears. An argument could be made that Rickey Watts (second round) was bust-like (he did disappoint on many an occasion), although he did have better moments than busts usually have. The third round pick (and picked ahead of Montana), Willie McClendon, was a total bust, no doubt about it, and that was the pick they were going to take Montana with and had cold feet at the last moment. Coulda, woulda, shoulda, and didna. The thinking was that Walter Payton wasn't going to hold up and McClendon was going to be his replacement, which was ridiculous given that (a) Payton lasted 9 more seasons, some of which were among his very best, and (b) they badly, badly needed a QB.
@@russellmurray3964 Actually you're right about Hampton, but not about the 2nd and 3rd picks.
@@SingleTax Also right on Al Harris. Busts don't last 11 seasons in the NFL.
@@russellmurray3964 I wasn't referring to Harris, but to Rickey Watts (2nd round pick) and Willie McClendon (3rd round pick). Both were picked over Montana.
Don’t forget 26 other teams passed on Montana also. To be honest I don’t think Montana develops playing for the bears probably gets injured and fades away
MOntana could have been drafted in spring of 1979 as some simpleton noted here-- BEars would have first better off acquiring Ozzie Newsome the YEAR Before-- Finks I think dealt that potential pick away beforehand
yes, Finks traded that number one pick for stellar failed qb, Mike Phipps
Yeah and the Bears got cheated in Philly in that playoff game. I was a little kid then but a big Bear fan. They were the hottest team in all of football in the second half of the season going 7-1 just to get in to the playoffs. If they hadn’t have gotten jobbed in Philly by the zebras 🦓 they would have beaten them by at least 20 points. Then they would have won the rematch in Dallas I believe then beat the Rams agin for the second time that season. However I do not think that they would have won Super Bowl XIV against the Steelers. But I do believe that the Bears would have put up even more of a fight as the Rams did and almost win. Rams RB Wendell Tyler has a nice day against the Steelers and I know the great Walter Payton would have tripled that.
@GIL Favor Yeah that’s why the great Walter Payton’s 85 yard masterpiece was called back which would have put the Bears up by 14 points.
@GIL Favor But in “THAT GAME” the Bears were the better team and out played Philly. The Bears were the hottest team in the NFL at that time going 7-1 the second half of the season to even make the playoffs.
@GIL Favor True Dat but at least the Chicago Bears would have gotten there. Plus the four teams that were left in the divisional round the Bears beat two of them in Tampa & the LA Rams, they would have beaten Philly if they hadn’t have been jobbed by the zebras 🦓 that called themselves referees and the league!! And the fourth team Dallas the Bears had them Beaton Dallas in game two of the season if it not had been for the great Roger Staubach pulling out one of his Roger Staubach specials on a last minute game winning drive to win 24-20.
@GIL Favor Vince Evans was a better quarterback but he was recovering from a staff infection that could have killed him and Phipps was hot. I’m just glad that Bob Avellini didn’t play that season that dude was the worst Chicago Bears quarterback since Bobby Douglas, they were both god awful.
Tony Wright the bears wouldn’t have beaten the cowboys
I don’t understand the reason for the terrible backtracking of the Bears in 1980 and 81. 82 was a strike shortened season and this team only came back alive in the second half of the 83 season going from 3-7 to 8-8. That defense if anything was going to get even better in the next few years. Unfortunately, neither Phipps nor Evans worked out so well for Chicago. Even in that magical 79 season, they were still in the bottom fourth in all passing statistics. Teams really focused on Payton without a solid passing game to take the pressure off. Things would only change when Jim McMahon was drafted, the O line was beefed up and they got guys like Gault and McKinnon on the edge. Idk why Watts and Scott did not develop for the Bears. Does anyone know why? The next few years would be the most bitter disappointment. It would turn out 1977 and 79 were just a bitter tease for the fan base who thought Chicago was far closer than it actually was
Watts was one of those receivers who could make great plays and then unfortunately mix in some annoying drops, Exhibit A being the sure 6 that he dropped from Mike Phipps early in the '79 playoff game against the Eagles. He was never able to turn the corner on this and was cut after the '83 season by Mike Ditka, who did not look kindly upon the dropsies. The story with Scott was markedly different, in that he did develop and by '79 was the Bears' #1 receiver and legitimate deep threat. The problem was, he was injured early in '79 during the first meeting with Detroit, missing the remainder of the season and the playoff game. When he returned in '80, the offense was out of whack (business as usual for the Bears) and his on-field performance dipped a bit. After the '80 season, he made the decision to leave and sign with the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL, a disaster in retrospect since even though he got more money, the Alouettes were a massive failure both on the field and at the gate. When he returned to the Bears in '82, Ditka was the new sheriff in town and by '83 Gault and McKinnon were the #1's, with Scott being buried on the depth chart. He barely played those last two season, was cut after '83, and never played in the NFL again. So, between an injury, an ill-advised move to the CFL, and a coach named Ditka who had better options available, Scott's NFL career failed to optimally develop.
@@russellmurray3964- wow! Great stuff. Thank you so much!!!
All comes down to the lack of a QB & offensive coordinator. Payton’s rushing totals were the lowest in his career in 80&81
Dont see why the Bears fans are complaining in these comments about the Eagles playoff game. You team got the Fog Bowl game nine years later.
Brilliant observation. Thanks for playing. 🙄
the league should have delayed the game until conditions improved, but the Eagles cost themselves that game with mistake after mistake before the fog rolled in.