Ubuntu Touch on the Pinephone - is this the best Linux mobile interface?
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2021
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I already covered Phosh, the mobile port of GNOME, and Plasma Mobile, both running on the pinephone. Now it's time to take a look at the other main alternative for mobile Linux interfaces, the one that has been around for a while now: Ubuntu Touch, or Lomiri. Let's take a look at how well it runs
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This shell is based on gestures starting from the screen edges. A short swipe from left to right will bring a launcher with the default applications pinned to it, and your current open applications as well, appearing on top of the pinned shortcuts.
A longer swipe from the left edge will bring the whole list of applications.
If you swipe from the right towards the left in a short motion, you'll switch to the next open app. If you make a long swipe from the right edge, then you'll get to a multitasking view, with apps displayed in a 3D layout.
You can swipe an app's card up to close it, or tap an app to resume it.
Finally, a swipe from the top edge of the screen will bring the notifications, and the quick settings, which don't display as on most other operating systems: they're in a straight line, that you can scroll from left to right, and tap each icon to get to a quick few shortcuts, like enabling or disabling a specific feature, or dive deeper into the settings.
The Applications
Out of the box, you get a nice calculator that handles rotation beautifully to display more options, and lets you swipe from the bottom in portrait to still get access to these options. The default calendar app looks good, with an Agenda view that shows your various events in order, a day, week, month, and year view.
I won't dwell on the camera app, as support for the pinephone camera is still in its infancy, it's rare that it even displays an image.
The Clock application lets you add various clocks from all around the world, start a timer, or use a stopwatch. Swiping from the bottom in the "clock" tab lets you create alarms, although I would have preferred alarms to be a full tab in the app instead of hiding that behind a swipe.
The contacts app does what you'd expect, list your contacts and allow to set some as favorites and you can swipe from the bottom to create a new one. The file manager looks good, although it's a bit slow to start, and lets you create files, and change how the directories look.
The messaging app works as you'd expect, letting you type messages and send them to your contacts. You can also swipe up from the bottom edge of the screen to start a new message.
The web browser is alright, if a bit slow to start.It lets you pick your search engine and homepage, and display web pages in desktop mode, but there are no sync capabilities for history, bookmarks, or passwords, so it's not going to be fantastic to use.
There is also a terminal app that looks really good and has quick aliases in the bottom left corner. The Notes app is also pretty competent, letting you swipe up from the bottom to create a new note, and syncs with evernote.
This leaves us with the phone dialer, letting you pick a contact, or just type the number you want to call, and the weather app, which is really black and white and pretty spartan, and it reminds me of a windows phone app.
The Settings
The settings page uses a sensible icon grid.
Ubuntu Touch is pretty barebones in that regard: in terms of customization, you can change the wallpaper, the ringtone for calls and messages, and that's about it. A few apps let you switch to a dark mode in the settings, and some offer to respect a "system preference", but that's not something I could find in the settings.
The AppStore
The OpenStore serves as the App Store for Ubuntu Touch. It's not a package manager like you could find on other Mobile Linux alternatives: no way to download a desktop program here, at least not graphically.
You'll get apps that were made specifically for ubuntu touch, and there are around 400 of these in total.
You can also get a few Matrix clients, and a nice email client called Dekko 2, among other applications.
Updates are handled in the system settings, with over the air updates for the system itself, and for the apps, grouped at the same place. Наука
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@holloway I would assume so yes don't take my word for it if all requirements dependencies are met why not if the hard drive cam be mounted read etc also indicates should have no problem
Skillshare is not for everyone, they don't get any thing i can use.
Can you look at iodeos please
did this ever ship installed on phones or is it just vaporware?
I feel like it's one of these cool projects that will be never finished...
Yeah, or maybe will get failed like Windows phones. 😞
Linux never finishes.
@Cindy SparkleFarts I see you're a fart enthusiast as well. Pleased to make your acquaintance.
It would be huge step for the Linux, I thing they will manage to release it to the production, phones, tables and etc, that would be cooll, but I believe it will take about 3-10y :D but i really like gnome GUI
Like Windows 10 Mobile was I dislike what Microsoft did to Windows Phone.
What these projects need:
- unified kernel efforts
- unified efforts on libs and drivers for hardware
- unified efforts for low level api interfaces
Win!
Literally this, with a unified system, each distro can just focus on having a good shell, so then when a new feature gets implemented, everyone benefits!
Exactly, this is why android is screwed by fragmentation
And $$$$
So unity. 😉
I know the PostmarketOS developers are currently working on trying to mainstream as many devices as possible, though there's a ton of work to be done there
The interface is beautiful, and I really like the gestures, but the lack of camera and navigation make it a nonstarter.
Yeah lack of camera breaks it for me
@@TheLinuxEXP If you want to have a working camera, and more generally if you want more or less everything to work, you have to get yourself one of the Android devices that are well supported, because there, the Halium hardware abstraction layer takes care of all the hardware. E.g. the OneplusOne or the Fairphone 2. On the Pinephone your kernel actually has to support the hardware, and as long as Ubuntu Touch is based on the heavily outdated Ubuntu 16.04, there is no chance of that happening. The transition will still take a while, I understand.
@@TheLinuxEXP What? I have it installed on a Sony Xperia X and the camera is fine, only glitches sometimes and a relaunch fixes it.
@Lucas Zhu As I said, they are working on it. It is actually their main priority, but since this is a huge task, it won't be ready by tomorrow.
@@TheLinuxEXP as others note, it is certainly a challenge of UT on Pinephone. My Nexus 5 for less than $50 USD with Ubuntu Touch is faster than the pinephone and has a very decently working camera (and no crashing when copying / pasting files). I suspect (???) the copy paste bug is because of Wayland (only on Pinephone, others use Mir only), and that apps auto-suspend when in the background to save battery (but do they go to the background or not when you bring up the copy / paste dialog?)
Ubuntu Touch was ahead of time. I remember Ubuntu Touch was parenting with a company that was a dual booting phone with Android that has Cyanogen Mod and Ubuntu Touch. I remember being excited because I loved Unity and saw it worked on Nexus 5 was going to get a Nexus 5 until Ubuntu announced they were stopping the project.
I still remember Ubuntu TV that was cool but it reminded me of regular Ubuntu with the Unity DE
6:26 „Mom Murder Hotline” xD
Btw this os looks nice
The ui looks so polished, apart from a dark theme and a gesture based back button, I loved everything in it. Hoping 🤞
I love the back button. The number of times I've accidentally swiped back and lost where I was/what I was doing has made me long for a way to disable the back swipe globally
@@hyperspeed1313 yeah maybe there should be an option, like in my Android there are 4 types of navigation button options.
You can get dark theme just get UT Tweak tool
@@hyperspeed1313 losing things because of a swipe based back isn’t fault of the back being swipe based. It’s a fault of not having a forward swipe. If you swipe back and realise you didn’t want to you should be able to swipe the other way to get back to where you were.
I think ubuntu touch's lomiri is the most polished mobile UI. Although phosh is catching up :D
3:45 Ahh, the Aero 3D view .. * hnnnnngg ahhhh nostalgia! *
Thank you, Nick. I had volunteered for the Ubuntu Edge phone before the Unity project collapsed.
But its failure, I'd say, was inevitable. the 17 million USD they were aiming for were completely unprecedented. It was quite unlikely that they would be able to hit that target.
the contacts made me laugh
lol
lol
Why?
lol
oh my god i forgot about this i used to run ubuntu touch on my nexus 4 and i liked it so much more than android
thank you so much for covering this!
great review as usual! sadly most of the issues are more related to the Pinephone itself rather than the OS. Right now there is a huge work focused in bringing UT to 20.04 LTS, the next milestone. UBPorts team and the community are doing an excellent work
Great video.Really appreciate the feature showcasting.
That's one great profile pic ur using, respect 🤡
That's one great profile pic ur using, respect 🤡
@@tubbalcain Thanks.
This is pretty nice. Especially the performance, given how low the specs of the Pinephone are, for this year.
I feel pretty confident for the future non-Android Linux phone in the near future.
Did your mom ever get back to you on those cleaning tips?
Yeah I listed them on the Notes
I was wondering the same thing for a friend.
Ubuntu touch was really ahead of its time. Even in 2021, it looks modern and the gestures are fantastic. Very sad that Canonical basically killed it along with normal Unity. Still hurts me after all these years. Thankfully, we have Plasma..
Thankfully, we have UBports that continue improving uTouch and supporting more and more devices, as canonical throwed us, who believed in their phone OS from the beginning, away...
The problem with UT is that it is an island solution. Canonical has developed, pushed and subsequently discarded many island solutions such as upstart, mir, unity and Ubuntu touch with its very restrictive concept making it neither a real Linux nor a real android was another one. They wanted to push a completely new ecosystem into the market. The other mobile distributions on the other hand try to adapt a mainline Linux to phones and tablet, and although the result is still a bit clunky is gas improved a lot over the last year and as a Linux user you feel instantly completely at home.
@@jochannan7379 Well, the UBPorts team is working on building bridges off the island :-) Work is going on to get it into Manjaro / Arch and also Debian proper. Yes it is not "traditional linux" but after they get to the 20.04 base, possibly some extra tweaks would then allow flatpak, then ??? Mainline or Halium, that is the kernel base, but really it is about the ecosystem and the apps which could come via Anbox work, flatpak, other??
@@jochannan7379 uTouch IS a real GNU/Linux, but it's fitted to smartphones, with for prior in mind user security (that means, any kind of users, not only GNUL geeks), so it is highly confined in apps managment and about messing with file system when "out of the box", BUT you can do whatever you want on it as an advanced GNUL user too, just make system r/w and you're free...
@@BombingBasta Sure I can always do mount -o remount,rw / and then install whatever I want, but any modification I have made will be overwritten by the next OTA. And working with Libertine containers also isn't pleasant. So, while I can understand the rationale behind their decisions, I personally am not comfortable with them, and that sentiment seems to be shared by many Linuxers.
I love how you say 'animations are fluid' while the app switcher animation is chugging along at 15fps in the background
« Fluid compares to other alternatives that run in the pine phone »
@@TheLinuxEXP Ah yeah, that's definitely true. Love your channel btw
Thanks :)
I love the gestures!!!! The vertical launcher is so nice!
Thank you for next awesome video. Your channel is very informative and promotes beauty of Linux and OpenSource. Personally I have been user of Linux for about 20 years now (different distributions => started from Mandrake and RedHat). The Pine64 is a breakthrough product which (from my point of view) outperforms the others (regarding possibilities and privacy). Great also that Ubuntu is available on this platform also. Canonical is the state-of-the-art company! If you consider to have your Pine64 consider also to purchase a Docking Bar and enjoy your phone as normal PC. I really recommend. I keep finger for the channel and have a nice day!
Thanks a lot for the kind words :)
I was so hyped for the Ubuntu Phone back in the day.
It'd be great if they can make this distro more usable now that the Pinephone seems to be somewhat of what the Raspberry Pi is to SBCs.
The Pinephone is the one phone where nothing works on Ubuntu Touch.
It's quite ironic, and silly, really.
Development will start once 20.04 rolls out. Until then, development is completely halted.
On the edge swiping mechanic, I remember when Google updated my Pixel 3 with edge gesture support (IIRC it was Android 10), at first I hated it but after just a few hours it becomes really natural and you mentioned the biggest advantage in this video, you can go back from any page with a single finger without needing to move your hand at all. Now I'm so used to it that I struggle using Android phones that don't have support, its a very natural and intuitive way of controlling a phone.
Its a bit different on Android, half swipe up from the bottom for recent apps, full swipe up from bottom for app drawer, swipe down from top for quick settings and a side swipe from either side edge goes back.
Really this is a cool project. The community should push it further. I'm actually feeling that having an open source, free and privacy oriented phone usable for daily use is possible
That back button observation reminded me of the advert for the iPhone 5: “Your thumb goes from here (bottom left) to here (top right)”. What they failed to mention is that your thumb doesn’t go to “there” top left. They also seem to have forgotten about this revelation that a screen size that you can reach with one hand can be a good thing. I completely agree, it’s crazy that back buttons are in the top left.
3:46 - Brest tips plop. Considering your contacts and reminders, I am unwilling to believe this was an accident.
Those are specific pinephone bugs, Ubuntu Touch works well con OnePlus One, for example, except for Hotspot and laggy Android Apps, but everything else works very well.
Even hotspot can work with... workaround ^^
Thanks Nick, I have this running on an LG Nexus 5. Smaller screen and still works well.
How many people noticed all the 'How to Murder Your Mom" references? And the SMS asking his mom how to clean up her own murder.
It's a lot better than I imagined. I might give it a shot. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I really like this. They have done a fantastic job. UI and navigation may just be the best I have seen for a Linux based phone. If only they would iron out some of those bugs and give me a halfway serviceable camera, I may even consider using something like this daily.
Pixel 3a (XL) has a great camera, works great with UT, waaaay more performant than the Pinephone. About $120 USD
Showing Ubuntu Touch on the Pinephone was a huge disservice to the look of Ubuntu Touch's current state. Because development on the Pinephone was halted until 20.04 comes out, so nobody is putting on the work to make the camera work.
On some other devices the camera DOES work.
Great video on Ubuntu Touch on the Pinephone. I’m using UT on the Nexus 5 & 7, but I’m always curious on how it performs on newer devices. The overall experience seems the same. The major difference as far as I can tell between devices that are able to run UT is how individual apps perform. I’ve encountered this on my Nexus devices, and shows up a bit here in this video as well. Overall UT is currently my 3rd favorite mobile os.
This looks very good actually
There is a Sailfish OS version for the Pine Phone. Check this one out next :)
That’s the plan :)
@@TheLinuxEXP As far as I understand, someone has ported sailfish to the Pinephone, but since sailfish was originally developed for android devices, you will probably face the same issue: No working camera, no gps, no autorotation, etc. I think the sailfish port is merely a proof of concept, not something intended for regular use.
To take a look at Sailfish, I would use it on one the phones it was made for by Jolla - not the Pinephone. It would perform better and everything will work.
In fact I don't get why there's been so much talk about Linux phones lately, but it's all about Pinephone and Librem5. Nobody mentions SailfishOS, when it's actually the only mobile Linux out there that you can actually use, and it comes on decent hardware too. It's partly proprietary, but Jolla is no Google, it's still more open than Android, and it's real Linux. All that fuss about Librem5, Pinephone and the various distros you can try on them is nice and well, but really it's all unusable on a day-to-day basis. Sailfish is a proper, complete mobile OS and it even runs Android app - without Gapps. I really don't get why Linux phone reviewers never talk about it.
I’ll try it on the pine phone because I can’t justify buying a new device, and that’s more interesting as a comparison with the other platforms I already reviewed :)
@@TheLinuxEXP Only that, as far as I know, no work has gone into really adapting it to the pinephone, so don't expect the hardware (camera, gyrometer, vibrator, gps) to work. Don't be disappointed when it doesn't and don't judge Sailfish by the experience it gives you on an unsupported device.
Love the running gag about your texts to your mom about dad! Hilarious!!
Hahah thanks :)
I agree, weaving a story into the review is next level stuff!
Thanks for the presentation: I’m trying out Mobian and seeing the UI & philosophy differences is nice for me to decide whether to switch or not!
I know I'm late to the video but, I find outrageous to still see search fields and buttons on the top. Said that this whole effort is amazing and I hope they nail the drivers issue soon.
Could you come back to this this year? I think they have improved a lot in the last year.
I absolutely love things like this, alternatives to the standard Android and iOS that's become so prevalent. It's a shame that these kinds of phones are hard to use in Sweden due to extremely dumb decisions on part of our banks and agencies regarding mandatory electronic ID. Basically, you use Android/iOS, or you go without.
Sounds like big brother made a deal with big teck
Smuggle one in on the dl
Guessing from what youve shown, I'd say ubuntu touch is not made to use in portray mode but in landscape mode. Then there is no problem anymore with the screen space real estate in the drop down menu and the back button on the top left is easily accessible with even a puny human thumb. ;)
When you Swipe from the left it shows you the most recent apps which are open and gives control. Could they add a Swipe from the left which gives an option for back or home on pages?
If my old phone was fully ported I would use it, but for now the page says that it only lacks the installation instructions.
Sadly I'm not precisely good with these kind of thing.
Do you think that if try to sync an account from terminal, would work? Like, Yandex syncs by terminal, at least in the desktop pc . . . cli apps could be a meanwhile solution.
How about Manjaro (or Arch) with Lomiri? As far as I can understand it's effectively the ubuntu touch UI but ported to the OS that is the official Pinephone one. Maybe the best of both? I haven't tried it myself yet. The Pinephone forum suggests that Mobian is the most stable OS but I found it annoyingly laggy compared with Plasma mobile on Manjaro.
Good news, the camera app Megapixels has finally reached a 1.0 update, so on the pinephone, the other linux distros have a *much* better performing camera app than last time you tried btw. The pinephone is a slow burn, but software for it is still evolving.
cool video , does ubuntu touch run Flutter apps ? can it run a virtual machine ?
I'd love to run my next phone on this OS, once it gets a bit more ironed out
You can remount the filesystem ("root" it) and you can then use it sort of like a regular desktop but some stuff will break like the camera for me
if it has a terminal app couldn't u use the mv and cp commands to get the music and such where it needs to be?
Yes that should work fine. I believe the copy / paste bug is because apps auto-suspend when in the background. Don't have that bug on android based devices (like my Nexus 5)
Yeah, you could, but Nick isn't a fan of using the terminal for trivial tasks on the phone - and who is?
But from which media? Mount an external hard drive?
@@TurboGoth he said he was able to download stuff but couldn't get the media from the downloads folder to where it needed to be
not every user know how to use terminal...even though only cp or mv command :D
I've been thinking about trying out Ubuntu Touch, but my main concern is related to using a bank application. Where can I find some info on this? Is it a feature that we can't expect in the following years?
Absolutely not. Banking apps expect the phone to pass SafetyNet, which asks for you to run stock firmware (which you won't) and Google Play Services.
They're never going to support Ubuntu, or Linux in general, let alone Ubuntu Touch.
One bank I am in required me to run a browser that was on either macOS or Windows. This made me so mad I actually switched banks, because it's unacceptable for me. (You can change the user agent, but that's annoying.)
Ubuntu Touch does run Android Apps on Waydroid but it uses the battery much faster so you have to open the app, use it, and close Waydroid so it doesn't drain it.
I love how it looks and feels 👍🏼 great video. They all should cooperate to make a better experience instead of divide themselves to make mediocre ones
If i wanted to collaborate in the development of the os where should I go?
I love the subtle jokes like the contact names lol :D Great vid! (comment for engagement, it's the least I can do)
Thanks :)
I use Smart Launcher 5 on Android and this layout of Ubuntu Touch looks fantastic to me for usage ease.
Woow!
thanks, looks good, that choppiness GUI sucks always, is that feeling of touching something you're not sure if you did it right. must be smooth like apple, add required visual delay by default
Since copy paste failed from the file manager but you have access to a terminal, did you try to do a mv command to move files?
I didn’t :) I try to do things as a « regular user » would, so command line to move files wasn’t in the cards!
@@TheLinuxEXP Could be interesting, just to see how the music player and the rest work.
Can you use desktop applications like LibreOffice, Thunderbird or VLC?
Any swipe gesture support in the keyboard?
No, not supported on UT yet.
Nice, I would like to try it on a tablet. Thanks for explaining Ubuntu touch. Greetings
It's also great on a tablet :)
Has it been optimized in terms of performance?
Is there anyway that I can install this on my BB leap or Lumia phone???
It's looking really good now and useable I love it! Did you try the desktop mode ? If yes how did it fare ? Or would you mind making a video about ubuntu touch's/pinephone's desktop mode ? Thank you very much.
it can't even open media and music mp3 files... usable what?
not gonna lie, looks pretty solid, i was thinking in getting an xperia and flash sailfish os, but i won't lie that this also feels like a solid option
I'm choosing to believe that Dad's "accident" was he had a bloody and embarrassing poop on the carpet.
7:24 Interesting reciepient and more interesting text when you open the mesaging app
😅😅
I wonder if this will ever be a viable alternative to Android and iOS. I would love to support it if they can bring it massively to market.
Great video. I'm still disappointed that the project never really took off.
Is there a software package in fedora 36 that downloads THINK OR SWIM DESKTOP ON COMPUTER ?????
I tried Ubuntu touch on my OnePlus One. But no idea what the problem is it sucks my (already quite low) battery like nothing else. Even in idle it won't last a full day.
I know im late here but does anyone know if there r apps for Discord (not web browser version), Proton email and Proton vpn on ubuntu touch?
I wonder, if copy doesn't work in gui, can you just copy it from the terminal app
what about a googlemaps alternative. does it have one? does it do traffic?
Does someone know if dark theme has been added to UbuntuTouch already?
It has improved a lot since last year.. I would suggest another view at this..
Can phone calls be hung up now? I use an Nexus with ubuntu touch and often can't hang up phone calls. As well bluetooth audio e.g. listening to music in car doesn't work at all or using the car's bluetooth for phone calls doesn't work with it either. I really liked it and it would've been a great alternative to let's say Android or LineAge OS. Another alternative would be Sailfish OS or Purism OS.
How was your battery life on the PinePhone/UbuntuTouch? My PinePhone/ManjaroKDE has a battery life of 3 hours.
3 hours? That's really bad. No crust support?
Sony Xperia X has like 12 hours
Mine 3; days. But mine is a moto android phone. I think if Linux is going into the cell phone business they must master the phone carrier choices first, then the internet, then the camera and music portion then they can build on that foundation. The only choice we have.now is the laptop or PC which runs pretty well after choosing a good distribution. There are improvements needed but much better than their phones. I am going by the test made on RUclips. When a good phone comes out then I may buy. Right now there is no Linux phone worth the money. I'm sorry I cannot get on board as a developer because I have poor computer skills. I do appreciate all the hard work that went into the Linux PC/laptop distributions.
@@jochannan7379 Not sure what's up with Pine/ManjaroKDE ; I just switched to Pine/Arch and I'll see what that means in terms of battery life.
@@SFSAtlas Thank you. I will find a way to apply this to the conversation about PinePhone/UbuntuTouch vs PinePhone/Manjaro .
i need this now. seems a bit laggy tho.
What about disabling all animations?
what carrier takes linux os for phones pine ubuntu etc?
Where do u come from Nick !! Streaming you every day from France !!
I’m French
What carrier works best with this setup?
What is a good cellphone to buy and install linux on?
I think it would be smart for ubuntu touch to shoot for a niche: e-ink displays, which seem theoretically obvious for phones given the energy efficiency and outdoor visibility. Only display interfaces and conventions must be sorted since animations and colors are out.
Since more than two years now updating and updating my Ubuntu Touch Nexus5, it is still not ready for daily use. But, nevertheless, I love the OS and use the phone always while charging my Lineage phone. Nice Video, thanks!
I couldn't root my phone because I had to root it externally but I only had a very old chromebook so I installed some stuff and it made my phone interface feel more like real ubuntu touch, and it's great. (even though it isn't actually ubuntu touch)
Nice work Nick. They should hire you as a consultant. There is a market for these phones. So close. If they make the changes you suggest, they'll make a killing.
Haha I’d love that!
Love it! Few questions please:
1. APK compatible/ emulator available? Like if I want to use WhatsApp?
2. Swipe typing/ voice typing?
3. Email client available like thunder bird?
They where adding desktop support so you could install Real Linux PC Programs
This project needs unity. If Linux community manages to make one opensource, stable and usable OS then web3 era will begin. No more polarized mobile OS.
when ubuntu touch first came out, its big selling point was convergence. can you cover that in another pinephone review?
Merci pour cette video, je vais essayer d'installer Ubuntu Touch sur mon Moto G5s.
Its possible to install linux in my android phone? can i use apps like facebook, spotify?
Thanks
You can install it on certain phones like the sony xperia 10 it depends on what phone you have
I wish Palm had been successful with WebOS. It was so promising and I loved my Palm Pre more than any other phone I’ve ever had. I think it would have evolved well seeing how much you can do right in a browser now, similar to chromebooks. The Firefox phone was a good idea too, anyone could make hardware if they wanted but it just never went anywhere. I found a couple Firefox phones at work they had used to test in the past and totally forgot it ever existed.
Palm was way ahead of their time. I had a palm lifedrive back in 2005. That thing was very promising and had many of the features you find on smartphone today. Its a shame they went under.
hey can any one help me how I can roll back to android I musing redmi note 7s(lavender).
This actually looks pretty nice as of now im still getting a android with a custom rom but after that i will check on the pinephone and might get it
Pixel 3a (XL) would be a waaaay better experience with Ubuntu Touch, plus better hardware (esp the camera). Pinephone lets you run mainline linux, but isn't comparable to android performance (Nexus 5 from many years back is more performant currently with UT than Pinephone .... I have both: Pinephone is great for flexibility, development for the future, but not for replacing your daily driver)
@@rikshaw8429 well theres a bit of a problem im never going to buy a google device because i hate google i was saying that im going to get a android with a custom rom then when i need something else a few years later ill check the pinephones progress on if i should buy it
@@killertigergaming6762 what better way to stick it to Google than by buying a 2nd hand one so they don't get the money then wipe it and install Ubuntu touch? :-) but yeah I understand
@@rikshaw8429 i mean i could although i still am likely helping them make money for example i buy the pixel then they use the money they made from selling there old phone to buy a new phone from google
@@killertigergaming6762 If "they" sell their old phone, that's because "they" already bought a new one...
Anyone know if the Arch BareBones PinePhone distribution runs faster?
It's seems perfomance will not gonna smooth and fast if i switch from linage os to Ubuntu touch os in my asus nexus 7 tab 2013.
can you use the hotspot via usb?
Is it possible in some way to run MAUI or Plasma Mobile (or even Phosh) apps on Ubuntu Touch? That would be so good. Ubuntu touch as shell, but Plasma Mobile apps. Maybe with a Yaru KDE theme.
Not sure that’s possible out of the box, but you can probably use the terminal to install that kind of stuff ?
@@TheLinuxEXP If I can install Discover and Flatpak, and it can actually run those apps, no problem. Will need to test it out whenever I get to use a Linux phone. KInda waiting for a higher-end device and a few bugs to be fixed. Then I can use it as a daily driver, maybe carry an old dumb phone as backup so even if it bugs out, my family can reach me.
Umm... Should we be concerned about the calendar events and the contacts?
Nah let’s forget about that haha
That sidebar is amazing. I wish Android had that
Yeah, sadly mainline + wayland has specific issues on UT. Hopefully they can be fixed soon and when UT fully switched to wayland.
I also feel the same way on the back button, there has been many discussions on how to handle it unfortunately, all edges are taken and UT's listitems are swipable too.
Any idea are welcome! :D
By the way, UT uses a modified version of jump drive for its recovery mode which is responsible for the updates. You can boot into it by holding Volumne down + Power then you can connect your pinephone to a PC. UT has many partitions though so you'll have to look for the home directory :D
Does copy & paste in File Manager still crash the phone now?
I see it has had an update on June 28th 2021 ...
Wait did he scroll through the options in notification bar while pulling the notification bar?? 2:47 That's freaking coooool!!!!