Fr, people were saying, “Gatling gun is too op. This is power creep, they need to nerf it.” After they nerf Gatling, they say “Noooooooo why did they next Gatling gun?😡”
@@coinbow6878i can use the excuse of g towers costing more than 50k gold to get not mentioning the rgn, admit it that excuse to say galting gun should be op is big garbage 😂
Nerfing the piercing was what was needed. Not single target dps. Its single target max dps was already complete garbage compared to other dps towers such as ranger.
I kinda agree, one Ranger versus one Gatling Gunner (Max level), well that comparison isn’t even fair, one Gatling destroys a single Ranger. But, at their maximum placement limit, seven Rangers versus one Gatling gunner, Gatling does less damage. (In terms in single target DPS)
The balancers can only make stat changes, but since the piercing for gatling is more code based, they do not have permission to change it themselves. They said this themselves in the discord general chat.
@@CarterLam1014 then maybe the balancers should suggest the change to whoever might be able to change whatever it is within the code that gives gatling the pierce it does. Or at least try
@@spencermarshall3734 meanwhile if theres a reasonable nerf like nerfing commanders coa chain, itll end up simply getting reverted instead of rebalanced all because of people complaining about it
@@spencermarshall3734 you're completely ignoring the pierce, stun immunity and manual targetting. All things turret does not have. "you can change targetting on turret" but that's gonna be way too tedious and require too much strategizing when you can just use gatling by pointing your mouse in the direction and holding down.
@@spencermarshall3734buddy a tower defense game is supposed to be balanced, which unnerfed Gatling was clearly not. Now it is still useful, just slightly less op now, because a tower defense game is about strategizing, not cheesing every single mode with one tower. you have to get that you will still need to use the towers you used before to win and to know what you are doing because placing it down and then watching it shred makes the game not playable. Once you get this, supports and farm you can now solo hc before, now you can probably still do it just an actual strategy needed, not watching it kill anything it sees.
I kinda find it funny how egg mentioned that everyone was comparing Gatling to single target dps towers, when Gatling was and always has been a crowd control tower. Yet in this exact comment section I still see people doing it 😂
I agree. Atleast it's no longer braindead. Stop mention about "it's lvl 175 and cost you 35k coins" Bro literally getting 35k coins is not even really hard. Just be good using another towers and win in faster way on fallen mode. 175 lvls? Just play the game, won or lose still gives you exp. Maybe too harsh at damage nerf. But i think atleast is no longer just braindead. You at least still got 3 piercing, can't be stun and controllable for inf range. So stop hating on devs or anyone that actually harsh it. Cause it's literally braindead for people that think / deserve the nerf. (On damage) 🙂🙏🏻
I see where you guys are coming from saying that now it is an alright tower but the reason people are mad is because of how grindy it is. getting to level 175 for me was like 2 years of playing this game and getting 35k coins took me like 5 hours. I understand that it is an alright tower now but they shouldn’t nerf it to be something “decent” it should be a high tier reward for high level players
the nerf is kinda meh, I would rather trade the pierce to keep the same dps, if not possible atleast make all the upgrade cheaper, buff early lv while keeping this nerfed dps
I understand it needed a nerf, but this was too far. Now, no one is gonna use this tower, it's not even fun or satisfying to use anymore and for 35K coins, this is a scam.
*Virgin Gatling Gun vs Chad The Three Turrets* *Virgin Gatling Gun* - Wow!! so expensive! - requires Level 175 - Stupid Expensive as Coin costs - Stupid Expensive Costs, like buying a sack of Truffle! - Trash DPS for stupid expensive towers - Gets outclassed by many DPS towers with same costs of max gatling - Blindspot angle - Your mindset only focuses on First, Second, Strongest Non-Boss, Strongest, Swarms or Fallen Jester targets (FPS Mode) - Tries to be Gatling Monkey - Revamped Pursuits way better - Infinite Range (FPS Mode) *a Chad The Three Turrets* - He does the insane DPS unlike Gatling, even all Level 4 surpasses the gatling DPS - Stupid Wide Range, still worse than Gatling - Expensive, but not expensive as Gatling - Level 50 - Not Stun immune, doesnt matter cuz its Max Placement: 3 - More Max placement than Gatling - No Custom Targetting
Thats how community ruins the game and balance by trying to keep the balance Now a tower that only needed pierce and SLIGHT damage nerf has been nerfed so hard that no one will use it anymore because every way easier to get dps tower outclasses it and you dont even have to use them A tower that added completely new game mechanic and was fun to use is now completely useless
Nerf 35% and cost way more is too much it should nerf it 15%-20% and cost not change is good enough but if dev still want 35% nerf then make up it make it fire faster,reload faster, cheaper
@@Ziemnia_Q Correct, gatling broke the game and im actually not angry about the nerf, is the cost, 35k and 175 level for a mid tower is not the best idea.
When I ask for my food to be salted, I dont expect you to put the entire tub of salt on my plate. It's just too much. The nerf was too harsh. It's even worse when you consider the insane requirements.
Another thing people are missing out from this is that this means the tower will be allowed in events. Events known for insane wave spam and long straight paths and tons of money. Gatling is about to be such a more free tower with these changes people have no idea.
Well, that’s because it’s now worse than pursuit that’s like 400 times easier to get ain’t no one using Gatling gun when they figure out pursuit better than it they were like holy shit I wasted hours of grinding for this worse than engineer thingy
Gatling Gun literally changed the meta. So it was reasonable that it needed a nerf but I think this is too harsh. -300 DPS changes a lot of interactions. But yea pre-nerf Gatling Gun was literally braindead.
@@serily4524 And you think people would not be mad if they did that instead? The community will always find something to complain about. The pierce is fine, the tower was always supposed to be a crowd control tower. People are complaining about this nerf because they relied too much on this tower, made the game too easy and that's why it was banned from the Halloween Event.
@@hamIindigoi did not rely on this tower for sure and people that were saying it was op dont know what they were talking about, the singular thing that was carryint this tower was pierce, thats why it was good because it was clearing hordes , but you have to remember that it could easily get outdps by other endgame towers, this tower did NOT need a nerf in the dmg whatsoever, and no, solo hardcore does not count as a way to define if it was op or not, as hardcore as we know it is very outdated
@@hamIindigoagain you dont know what ur talking about, what they should have done is nerf the pierce in some way, or else u get a tower that ends up like trash like how gatling is now, this tower needs to be rebuffed but nerf the pierce
I hate when devs put smth in game that seems be op and then nerf it, the Gatling gun was obviously strong, why they didn't added the tower to the game alr nerfed?
Honestly, I felt they should've nerfed the piercing more instead of single-target DPS. Sure, it's still good but it doesn't hit as effectively as players liked using it for. For example the sledger, sure the tower is still good, but people mainly used it for its stalling not dps.
I swear literally every dps might be better. It kinda got accel treatment but that happend cuz towers got buffed and rework accel did not any so ye Maybe there should be 2 placement for gattling, one for fps and cone ramge and other for automatic and a circle range
i knew it, I WAS RIGHT!!!! I saved for a golden crate instead of buying this bc i knew it was getting nerfed. Sucks to have 35000 dollars down the drain
No its still a bad update, the earlier lvl of gatling nerfs is understandable, but to nerfing the max level that much seems too unreasonably big for a tower with 1 placement limit. I honestly think reducing its max dps to 750-800 is reasonable at max. I get it there is, dj, and commander to buff it but if were gonna solo game fallen or anything else, its just not that worth it bringing gatling, its just outclassed by other dps towers good for solo games.
Sure but compared to other good aoe towers its still ass, lets compare it to mortar, does more maximum (4) aoe dps, has much better value, is stun immune, and has decent range, it doesnt have hidden but youre bringing other towers to alongside it anyways, also the new bottom path pursuit, again does more maximum dps both aoe and single target (5), value is pretty mid but youre getting way more dps, and both if them are easier to get as in buying it from the shop
do you guys remember when accel better than engi? now its like pursuit better than gattling since pursuit literally just better and easier to get compare to gatling that only focus on crowd now
Complainers, look at what you've done. Sniff some copium, wipe your tears, stop malding in front of your ipad, and remember what your mom said. No ipad after 9pm
If I was to balance it it will be easy, all stats will remain the same, but, I remove pierce completely and make it just single target damage dealer, or blacklist it from all buffs so you cant use supports on it anymore. This will be way better than whatever this is. I don't like gatling gun anymore and it's dead to me.
by removing its pierce it will have less dps then 3 turrets. Atleast current gatling has slightly more dps than 3 turrets. Your change would insinuate a 175 level locked tower that costs 35k to unlock being worse than a level 50 locked tower thats free. Gatling did not need the nerf, his single target dps was rather lackluster but it made up for it in pierce. Removing its only niche invalidates its viability.
Some people say they nerfed gatling gun too much, and there’s a TINY hint of truth in there. The new gatling gun deals 600 single-target DPS & 1,500 DPS at most. 7 rangers practically deal 1,200 DPS against 1 enemy, 1,350 DPS against 2 enemies, and 1,500 DPS against 3 enemies, the exact amount a gatling gun deals against 3 enemies. And considering you can get one tower before level 50 & one at level 175, it’s understandable. Except, it’s not. Because you get mortar at level 75, and NOBODY talks about the fact that you choose RANGER OVER MORTAR FOR EVERYTHING. Bosses, enemies, YOU NAME IT. Ranger literally DEALS WITH CROWDS BETTER THAN MORTAR. "Gatling was nerfed too much-" MORTAR WAS LEFT IN THE DUST & YOU ALL DON’T EVEN CARE, so WHY are you caring SO MUCH about a tower THAT LESS PEOPLE HAVE. Man, go speak to me again when you have better priorities.
you people dont understand anything about pierce dmg, just because it does pierce it doesn't mean it boosts its dps, its still doing 600 dps on every single enemy where are u getting the idea its doing double the dps
@ That’s where your logic is flawed. Hitting 3 enemies in fallen mode, especially in the late game? You’d have to do it on purpose if you wanted to miss. So for the entirety of fallen mode, you’re always taking full advantage of gatling gun’s full pierce. And before you think bringing up the fallen king will be your trump card, it won’t. Because the fallen king isn’t the last enemy that spawns. There are over a dozen enemies that spawn after the fallen king, so even while hitting the fallen king, you are still taking full advantage of its pierce, & that’s not even bringing up the fallen king’s summons. And while you might say gatling gun’s single-target DPS won’t be enough to deal with the fallen king, it doesn’t have to. It simply has to wreck the rest of his army, which he can definitely do in courtesy of his pierce.
everything you said is so wrong ranger is FOR BOSSES mortar is for CROWD CONTROL (even tho ranger has explo. radius. it doesnt matter its small) you have to compare a tower that is for bosses like ranger another tower made for bosses. "ranger deals with crowds better than mortar" LIE. Mortar can target 3-5 enemies and ranger can barely target 3 enemies, and his firerate is not for crowds. Mortar was not left in the dust. Youre comparing a tower made for bosses and a tower made for crowd, its like comparing minigunner and enginner. the rest is all wrong. youre just a one man army agreeing with this trash nerf
Gatling gun is now outclassed by other towers and I'm sad about it now.I didn't ask for this nerf to be this bad andI know it had a lot of dps before the nerf so it's understandable but the nerf was too much.
Now i have every right to make fun of your ass. I hope your malding at your ipad rn after finding out that a lvl 100 15k tower does better at fallen than a lvl 175 35k one lol
He says Gatling gun is still good after nerf. NO IT IS NOT BRO. HOW COULD YOU COMPARE IT TO TURRET. NOT ENGINEER OR ACCEL BECAUSE IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE. YOU’RE NOT GUARANTEED THE 3 ENEMIES. When did it say you had to be in FPS the whole game. IT IS AS GOOD AS A- OR B TIER EVEN AFTER THE 2 DPS BUFF.
For its price now it’s a complete piece of shit like I know it’s a good tower. It’s not the worst in the game but anyone buying that is like wasting 35K it ain’t worth it anymore engineer now better
you assume everyone spammed it in every mode to win, the game didn't become unplayable and others tower got powercrept because of a singular tower, sit down, the tds community blew this tower out of proportion, it wasn't broken but it did need a nerf@@hamIindigo
*A tier tower* Its completly outclassed by Pursuit now hmmmm, ALSO I WONDER WHO WAS MAKING OUT GATLING TO BE SOMETHING THAT SPAWNKILL AWAKANED FALLEN KING (yes Eggrypted, I a looking at you) The tower isn't amazing, its completly useless
No one‘s ever using this tower if it’s outclassed by a tower that is only 100lv to get and is like two times less price than Gatling no one’s using when they figure out that pursuit is better than it
Most of the community that wines about it being too overpowered fault they’re whining when it’s the most expensive tower to get the hardest to get so it’s just not worth it anymore
my balances changes for it is make it a single target dps tower undo the buffs make him his dps up to like 2950 dps the dps gets lowered once a player joins in Duo=2500 trio=2000 quad= 1600
Is the tower one of the worst advanced yes is mini gunner better on DPS yes so that means none of the ones that don’t have it don’t get it unless it gets buffed again
"g-guys the tower is hitting multiple enemies so it means its doing double the dps right" no it isn't stop saying lies, it does the same dps on every enemy stop thinking in this nonsensical way thinking it adds 1000+ more dps with every enemy hit
@@Santaren342these people think the tower is doing double the dps just because it pierces through multiple enemies, thats absolute nonsense, if we go by that logic every splash dmg tower is doing double the dps just cause it hits multiple enemies, its a nonsensical way to see things and idk who started this dumb trend of pierce = double dps
@serily4524 ok i finally got time to explain this to you the reason why the dps is doubled is NOT because of the tower just gaining more dmg whenever it hits more enemies, its because the tower is hitting MULTIPLE enemies with a single shot for example, if some tower like mortar dealt 150 dps at max by the stats only, if he hits 3 enemies with a single shot, hes dealing 150 dps to the 3 enemies separately which adds up to 450 dps with a singular shot, hence why the dps is tripled tdlr, dps doesnt get multiplicated cuz dmg improves the more enemies it hits, its because thats the dps on every enemy the tower hits added up
DUDE THE TDS NEWS IS ALL FLOODED WITH THE GATLING BEING A BAD TOWER (I still grinding my 2nd golden skin 😭 and yall keep pop up with "THEY KILL THE GATLING" like wth a nerf is a nerf guys..) and now the pursuit is forgotten like barely anymore talk about it except content 💀
I know the Nerf for gattling is deserved but still saying the Nerf is deserved even though the Nerf made it completely to the ground and most or all dps towers are better is wild. Everyone just expected a small Nerf to balance the game it would still be in s but not s+. It's not deserved because it costs 175 levels and 35k coins but other level towers such as pursuit, mercenary base or might even be turret better than gattling.
Why does TDS always have to listen to the please, Nerf comments like why don’t they look at the comments the comments why you’re not trying to make old commandoes rip off
In order for yall to be happy, you need to do the hardest thing you can do as a tds player (braindead sack of soggy concrete that shrieks in horrendous agony whenever an integer value is slightly reduced) Accept the fact gatling had the game by the throat and was choking it to death, be THANKFUL the entire game (or future content) wasn't (or won't) balanced around gatling, accept that its still an awesome tower, and move on.
you people really think gatling was making the game unbalanced LMAO every other endgame dps tower outbeat it when spammed, thats the point of engineer accel etc, they needed to nerf pierce
Was conditional and needed certain Placements to be viable, was horrible single target especially vs major bosses, lvl 175 tower locked behind 35k coins now worse than free turret? Its better than other towers, what is so hard to accept.
"i dont care about the crowd control at all 🤓" just stfu and sit down kid. If you cant see the real extent of the tower's potential then you have no rights to say if its good or bad
Yeah, people liked this tower because of its DPS. They did not care very much about the crowd control because there’s a lot of better crowd control characters than that
Players: Nerf Gatling he is too op PLS BRO Devs: Nerfing gatling gun Players: Trash Updated Trash gatling gun
FR
Players wanted it to be nerfed, not to have it getting a old commando treatment
Fr, people were saying, “Gatling gun is too op. This is power creep, they need to nerf it.” After they nerf Gatling, they say “Noooooooo why did they next Gatling gun?😡”
That only player is this RUclipsr mate. I hate this YT for his previous complain. I hope this nugget brain is happy.
I know. This world is full of braindead losers who just complain about everything lol
1K Dps seemed unreasonable anyways but honestly it suited the 1 placement limit
Bro its a tower that u need to be lvl 175 and it cost 35k coins and now is worst than pursuit
@@coinbow6878 ok now I see why it had 1K dps
@@coinbow6878 So you're implying that they should nerf pursuit to make gatling gun stand out more
@@moonlapse5108they're both a bit underwhelming
@@coinbow6878i can use the excuse of g towers costing more than 50k gold to get not mentioning the rgn, admit it that excuse to say galting gun should be op is big garbage 😂
"it needs a nerf" ahh goofy words before the Disaster
Now players learned do not ask for nerves or they’re gonna try to make it look like old commando
Nerfing the piercing was what was needed. Not single target dps. Its single target max dps was already complete garbage compared to other dps towers such as ranger.
I kinda agree, one Ranger versus one Gatling Gunner (Max level), well that comparison isn’t even fair, one Gatling destroys a single Ranger. But, at their maximum placement limit, seven Rangers versus one Gatling gunner, Gatling does less damage. (In terms in single target DPS)
And 7 rangers cost more and its not immune to debuffs+not full map range and is affected by aggro modifier
@@B-z8q exactly. They nerfed it the wrong way
The balancers can only make stat changes, but since the piercing for gatling is more code based, they do not have permission to change it themselves.
They said this themselves in the discord general chat.
@@CarterLam1014 then maybe the balancers should suggest the change to whoever might be able to change whatever it is within the code that gives gatling the pierce it does. Or at least try
this games balancing will always be mid because of mixed feedback from players who dont know what proper balancing is
Yeah
*brawler's nerf getting practically reverted after it only existing for 2 weeks flashbacks*
We say slight Nerf, the devs say old commando/freezer treatment
@@spencermarshall3734 meanwhile if theres a reasonable nerf like nerfing commanders coa chain, itll end up simply getting reverted instead of rebalanced all because of people complaining about it
@@spencermarshall3734 gatling needed a sizeable nerf, it's still good though.
the problem wasnt if its good or not, its that gatling is now outclassed by level 100 tower
went from top 1 tower to controllable turret
you've said this at least three times in other youtube vids
@4dstrawberry-l9z42f yup, i have
Cause it’s true just an overpriced torrent if you could control
@@spencermarshall3734 you're completely ignoring the pierce, stun immunity and manual targetting. All things turret does not have. "you can change targetting on turret" but that's gonna be way too tedious and require too much strategizing when you can just use gatling by pointing your mouse in the direction and holding down.
@@spencermarshall3734buddy a tower defense game is supposed to be balanced, which unnerfed Gatling was clearly not. Now it is still useful, just slightly less op now, because a tower defense game is about strategizing, not cheesing every single mode with one tower. you have to get that you will still need to use the towers you used before to win and to know what you are doing because placing it down and then watching it shred makes the game not playable. Once you get this, supports and farm you can now solo hc before, now you can probably still do it just an actual strategy needed, not watching it kill anything it sees.
I kinda find it funny how egg mentioned that everyone was comparing Gatling to single target dps towers, when Gatling was and always has been a crowd control tower. Yet in this exact comment section I still see people doing it 😂
I've always thought they should've nerfed the pierce instead
I agree. Atleast it's no longer braindead.
Stop mention about "it's lvl 175 and cost you 35k coins"
Bro literally getting 35k coins is not even really hard. Just be good using another towers and win in faster way on fallen mode. 175 lvls? Just play the game, won or lose still gives you exp.
Maybe too harsh at damage nerf. But i think atleast is no longer just braindead. You at least still got 3 piercing, can't be stun and controllable for inf range. So stop hating on devs or anyone that actually harsh it. Cause it's literally braindead for people that think / deserve the nerf. (On damage)
🙂🙏🏻
I see where you guys are coming from saying that now it is an alright tower but the reason people are mad is because of how grindy it is. getting to level 175 for me was like 2 years of playing this game and getting 35k coins took me like 5 hours. I understand that it is an alright tower now but they shouldn’t nerf it to be something “decent” it should be a high tier reward for high level players
@@wellsoncung yea Goodluck on being level 1 and have to get all the golden skins let's not forget about the begginers
@@wellsoncungit was never braindead the only thing that made it braindead was the pierce
the nerf is kinda meh, I would rather trade the pierce to keep the same dps, if not possible atleast make all the upgrade cheaper, buff early lv while keeping this nerfed dps
3:01 wow egg, that’s alot to ask for, especially from the tds community
tds community is dum
Why is he so obsessed with our brains? Our brains already melted, playing like 100 rounds to get this tower.
Devs: places a nerfing sapper on Gatling gun
Players: devs sapping my sentry!
what does sapper means
@@LuquiTheFarmertf2 refference
@@LuquiTheFarmer i CANNOT believe it, yet it is real.
@@LuquiTheFarmer This reply makes me feel old
whats wrong with not knowing what "sapper" means?
I understand it needed a nerf, but this was too far. Now, no one is gonna use this tower, it's not even fun or satisfying to use anymore and for 35K coins, this is a scam.
did you watch the video? He said it’s still good…
I LOVE THE NERF SO MUCH BRO
He literally god boosted it. No shit it's going to be good for him.@@conuy4663
@@conuy4663delta said it was unsatisfying to use not bad
Now i have every right to make fun of you
*Virgin Gatling Gun vs Chad The Three Turrets*
*Virgin Gatling Gun*
- Wow!! so expensive!
- requires Level 175
- Stupid Expensive as Coin costs
- Stupid Expensive Costs, like buying a sack of Truffle!
- Trash DPS for stupid expensive towers
- Gets outclassed by many DPS towers with same costs of max gatling
- Blindspot angle
- Your mindset only focuses on First, Second, Strongest Non-Boss, Strongest, Swarms or Fallen Jester targets (FPS Mode)
- Tries to be Gatling Monkey
- Revamped Pursuits way better
- Infinite Range (FPS Mode)
*a Chad The Three Turrets*
- He does the insane DPS unlike Gatling, even all Level 4 surpasses the gatling DPS
- Stupid Wide Range, still worse than Gatling
- Expensive, but not expensive as Gatling
- Level 50
- Not Stun immune, doesnt matter cuz its Max Placement: 3
- More Max placement than Gatling
- No Custom Targetting
100% worse before the nerf
Thats how community ruins the game and balance by trying to keep the balance
Now a tower that only needed pierce and SLIGHT damage nerf has been nerfed so hard that no one will use it anymore because every way easier to get dps tower outclasses it and you dont even have to use them
A tower that added completely new game mechanic and was fun to use is now completely useless
Well, the damage Nerf has went down from 1000 so yeah and it also has slightly worse, pierce and automatic mode is worse
It's the players fault for saying " It's too op pls nerf it" and now they be complaining after nerfing it
Ik. This community is full of braindead morons who just can't stop complaining about everything lmao
Nerf 35% and cost way more is too much it should nerf it 15%-20% and cost not change is good enough but if dev still want 35% nerf then make up it make it fire faster,reload faster, cheaper
I was expecting like 300 damage Nerf not 1000
I’m just going to predict that Gatling gun will suffer the same fate commando had all those years ago…
Bruh if they already nerfed the damage why did they still increased the price?
HMMMMM I wonder whose fault this is 🙃
I wonder who, I wonder why🤔
Man can't they just remove hidden detection and then we good to go or smth?
Now we have every right to make fun of them
Deserved nerf
@@Ziemnia_Q Correct, gatling broke the game and im actually not angry about the nerf, is the cost, 35k and 175 level for a mid tower is not the best idea.
When I ask for my food to be salted, I dont expect you to put the entire tub of salt on my plate. It's just too much. The nerf was too harsh. It's even worse when you consider the insane requirements.
Calm down with the words shakespeare you asked for it first now you're complaining again. Pathetic
Another thing people are missing out from this is that this means the tower will be allowed in events. Events known for insane wave spam and long straight paths and tons of money. Gatling is about to be such a more free tower with these changes people have no idea.
its still 650 dps with piercing, inf range and immunity to stun, i dont know why people are saying its useless
Well, that’s because it’s now worse than pursuit that’s like 400 times easier to get ain’t no one using Gatling gun when they figure out pursuit better than it they were like holy shit I wasted hours of grinding for this worse than engineer thingy
Your better off using engie, ranger or pursuit than using this tower
Anyone who said that Gatling should get nerfed, I hope you’re freaking happy now.
Let's team up and make fun of these absolute morons who just complain about literally everything lol
Yea I'm happy and ur sad xDDDDDDDDD
@ nah I agree with the nerf but not to the extent it had, tbh I didn’t like how strong it was but boy
Yes im gonna host a party about this nerf XD
@@Il1l1Il1lII1Il1llII’d like to see that
Bro the Shorgunner has had a pretty good buff, check it out
mfs forget gatling is supposed to be for crowds hence the pierce being a thing and not rlly meant for single target dps lmao
even when it had 1000 dps it was still outclassed by every other endgame dps tower
Yeah but now you are just wasting a slot atp, 600 dps on boss is horrid
Devs know that they fucked up when Gatling gun can’t even kill fallen guards without almost dying
Gatling Gun literally changed the meta. So it was reasonable that it needed a nerf but I think this is too harsh. -300 DPS changes a lot of interactions. But yea pre-nerf Gatling Gun was literally braindead.
it was op but the damage did not need a nerf, what needed a nerf was the pierce
@@serily4524 anyhow, it's balanced now.
@@serily4524 And you think people would not be mad if they did that instead? The community will always find something to complain about.
The pierce is fine, the tower was always supposed to be a crowd control tower.
People are complaining about this nerf because they relied too much on this tower, made the game too easy and that's why it was banned from the Halloween Event.
@@hamIindigoi did not rely on this tower for sure and people that were saying it was op dont know what they were talking about, the singular thing that was carryint this tower was pierce, thats why it was good because it was clearing hordes , but you have to remember that it could easily get outdps by other endgame towers, this tower did NOT need a nerf in the dmg whatsoever, and no, solo hardcore does not count as a way to define if it was op or not, as hardcore as we know it is very outdated
@@hamIindigoagain you dont know what ur talking about, what they should have done is nerf the pierce in some way, or else u get a tower that ends up like trash like how gatling is now, this tower needs to be rebuffed but nerf the pierce
I hate when devs put smth in game that seems be op and then nerf it, the Gatling gun was obviously strong, why they didn't added the tower to the game alr nerfed?
pierce nerf
Honestly, I felt they should've nerfed the piercing more instead of single-target DPS. Sure, it's still good but it doesn't hit as effectively as players liked using it for. For example the sledger, sure the tower is still good, but people mainly used it for its stalling not dps.
Why would people want it to get nerfed if you can quite literally shred gamemodes? Not like if its being used against you
that's the problem of gatling gun it made solo hardcore possible all it need was a piercing nerf not it's dps
@ Bro if it made hardcore easier why would you want to nerf it?
@@Sigmalsaachardcore is pretty outdated so almost anything can beat it
I just got Mercenary Base at Level 150, now my chances for mass destruction is ruined. ☹️
I swear literally every dps might be better. It kinda got accel treatment but that happend cuz towers got buffed and rework accel did not any so ye
Maybe there should be 2 placement for gattling, one for fps and cone ramge and other for automatic and a circle range
Man all for grindings just for nothing :/ I blame the players
i knew it, I WAS RIGHT!!!! I saved for a golden crate instead of buying this bc i knew it was getting nerfed. Sucks to have 35000 dollars down the drain
YOU ASKED FOR IT
borra la cuenta
Ikr. This community is full of morons who complain about literally anything amirite or amirite
He isn't complaining though?
ME TOO!!!
did you even watch the full video bruh💀
now I don’t think this will encourage people to get to that level and farm some more coins but thank for the time gatling gun was the best tower dps
it was the best 1 placement dps tower but not the best dps tower itself, every accel/engi and every other endgame dps towers outbeat it in dps
Atleast Gatling gun still has more dps than *coughs* accel *coughs again*
one singular accel that is, but accel is meant to be spammed so its better than gatling
deserved tbh, it wasn't the dps that was really the problem though.
Its your fault you dont deserve to make a video about it 😠
Keep crying just because u cant abuse a super broken tower anymore
Tbh, this nerf was harsh
but making it even more expensive was undeserved
This is the only valid complaint about this nerf, they should make the base level and the Lvl. 6 upgrade cheaper than what it was before.
There’s a lot of other valid complaints like maybe make the price to get Gatling gun cheaper than pursuit if he’s worse than pursuit
it doesn't matter how cheap they make it its still a trash tower@@hamIindigo
it was inevitable 😔
We all knew this was coming at some point
No its still a bad update, the earlier lvl of gatling nerfs is understandable, but to nerfing the max level that much seems too unreasonably big for a tower with 1 placement limit. I honestly think reducing its max dps to 750-800 is reasonable at max. I get it there is, dj, and commander to buff it but if were gonna solo game fallen or anything else, its just not that worth it bringing gatling, its just outclassed by other dps towers good for solo games.
Bayonetta smash ultimate moment. A shadow of who it once was
Devs we said Nerf, not old commando/overpriced Trent that actually only has 400 DPS when there’s no piercing
piercing does not double dps
If max level was 75 instead of 65 i would be cool with it. Or better yet, revert the damage back but just remove the piercing...
Sure but compared to other good aoe towers its still ass, lets compare it to mortar, does more maximum (4) aoe dps, has much better value, is stun immune, and has decent range, it doesnt have hidden but youre bringing other towers to alongside it anyways, also the new bottom path pursuit, again does more maximum dps both aoe and single target (5), value is pretty mid but youre getting way more dps, and both if them are easier to get as in buying it from the shop
do you guys remember when accel better than engi?
now its like pursuit better than gattling since pursuit literally just better and easier to get compare to gatling that only focus on crowd now
You're one of the youtubers to blame don't be posting videos anymore bro
Complainers, look at what you've done. Sniff some copium, wipe your tears, stop malding in front of your ipad, and remember what your mom said. No ipad after 9pm
@@Il1l1Il1lII1Il1llI good im honestly happy that it got nerfed and im happy with the current changes
@@oldaccount_marcel average not-gatling owner:
@@sebastianabadbenitez9424 i quite literally have gatling and uses it a lot of time
@@sebastianabadbenitez9424 It was the most brain-dead tower in the game, what do you think was going to happen to it?
@@hamIindigoa nerf was needed but the dmg did not need a nerf
Bro ask for a nerf and now regret
it deserves the nerf but they took it way too far all it need was remove the piercing not single target dps
How about they buff the DPS single target DPS to 1500 but no piercing
Eggrypted doesn’t actually regret it; jn the older video talking about the Gatling gun being too strong, he said he was happy it got nerfed
If I was to balance it it will be easy, all stats will remain the same, but, I remove pierce completely and make it just single target damage dealer, or blacklist it from all buffs so you cant use supports on it anymore. This will be way better than whatever this is. I don't like gatling gun anymore and it's dead to me.
Well, that’s because it’s like 16 times more expensive than the second most expensive tower
by removing its pierce it will have less dps then 3 turrets. Atleast current gatling has slightly more dps than 3 turrets. Your change would insinuate a 175 level locked tower that costs 35k to unlock being worse than a level 50 locked tower thats free. Gatling did not need the nerf, his single target dps was rather lackluster but it made up for it in pierce. Removing its only niche invalidates its viability.
@@cvsiddy9127 You can buff it's single target damage to balance out with no pierce.
piercing and slight damage nerf is what it needed not this
Rip gatling. Gatling got the taste of accel's nerf 😭🙏
Now Gattling knows how it feels to be old commando
Accel never got a bad nerf, it was just outclassed by newer and buffed dps towers, like engineer, pursuit, Golden Mini, Etc
Gatling gun before the update: most overpowered tower Gatling gun after the update: overpriced turrent
they did the nerf you wanted, you happy now?
It's still good for early to mid,right? (Ofc if with fps mode)
Remember when freezer got nerfed?
Womp womp
Damn Gatling gun got the exact same treatment
Remember when John was transferred as militant
Some people say they nerfed gatling gun too much, and there’s a TINY hint of truth in there.
The new gatling gun deals 600 single-target DPS & 1,500 DPS at most. 7 rangers practically deal 1,200 DPS against 1 enemy, 1,350 DPS against 2 enemies, and 1,500 DPS against 3 enemies, the exact amount a gatling gun deals against 3 enemies. And considering you can get one tower before level 50 & one at level 175, it’s understandable.
Except, it’s not. Because you get mortar at level 75, and NOBODY talks about the fact that you choose RANGER OVER MORTAR FOR EVERYTHING. Bosses, enemies, YOU NAME IT. Ranger literally DEALS WITH CROWDS BETTER THAN MORTAR.
"Gatling was nerfed too much-" MORTAR WAS LEFT IN THE DUST & YOU ALL DON’T EVEN CARE, so WHY are you caring SO MUCH about a tower THAT LESS PEOPLE HAVE.
Man, go speak to me again when you have better priorities.
Yeah, mortor is honestly shit too. It needs a buff tbh
W rant
you people dont understand anything about pierce dmg, just because it does pierce it doesn't mean it boosts its dps, its still doing 600 dps on every single enemy where are u getting the idea its doing double the dps
@ That’s where your logic is flawed. Hitting 3 enemies in fallen mode, especially in the late game? You’d have to do it on purpose if you wanted to miss. So for the entirety of fallen mode, you’re always taking full advantage of gatling gun’s full pierce.
And before you think bringing up the fallen king will be your trump card, it won’t. Because the fallen king isn’t the last enemy that spawns. There are over a dozen enemies that spawn after the fallen king, so even while hitting the fallen king, you are still taking full advantage of its pierce, & that’s not even bringing up the fallen king’s summons.
And while you might say gatling gun’s single-target DPS won’t be enough to deal with the fallen king, it doesn’t have to. It simply has to wreck the rest of his army, which he can definitely do in courtesy of his pierce.
everything you said is so wrong
ranger is FOR BOSSES
mortar is for CROWD CONTROL (even tho ranger has explo. radius. it doesnt matter its small) you have to compare a tower that is for bosses like ranger another tower made for bosses.
"ranger deals with crowds better than mortar" LIE. Mortar can target 3-5 enemies and ranger can barely target 3 enemies, and his firerate is not for crowds. Mortar was not left in the dust. Youre comparing a tower made for bosses and a tower made for crowd, its like comparing minigunner and enginner. the rest is all wrong. youre just a one man army agreeing with this trash nerf
Gatling gun is now outclassed by other towers and I'm sad about it now.I didn't ask for this nerf to be this bad andI know it had a lot of dps before the nerf so it's understandable but the nerf was too much.
Now i have every right to make fun of your ass. I hope your malding at your ipad rn after finding out that a lvl 100 15k tower does better at fallen than a lvl 175 35k one lol
Community says slight Nerf the devs say commando old treatment
HUH!? i WONDER who has quite a bit of INFLUENCE in this community whos has COMPLAINED about gatling being op?! I WONDER WHO!? *EGGRYPTED?*
eh im pretty sure every og preferred minigunner anyway
He says Gatling gun is still good after nerf. NO IT IS NOT BRO. HOW COULD YOU COMPARE IT TO TURRET. NOT ENGINEER OR ACCEL BECAUSE IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE. YOU’RE NOT GUARANTEED THE 3 ENEMIES. When did it say you had to be in FPS the whole game. IT IS AS GOOD AS A- OR B TIER EVEN AFTER THE 2 DPS BUFF.
Jesus they ate this thing alive
How the hell does golden soldier a sub dps tower have higher dps the Gatling gunner with pierce bro 😭
what are u on
Now that’s one WORST unit in TDS, Hopefully they will undo the changes.
Still better then golden juggernaut
(Better then gattling)
Worst? You just failed math test lol
"It is now the worst tower in the game because I can't rely on it for an easy triumph anymore."
For its price now it’s a complete piece of shit like I know it’s a good tower. It’s not the worst in the game but anyone buying that is like wasting 35K it ain’t worth it anymore engineer now better
you assume everyone spammed it in every mode to win, the game didn't become unplayable and others tower got powercrept because of a singular tower, sit down, the tds community blew this tower out of proportion, it wasn't broken but it did need a nerf@@hamIindigo
I mean kinda ruined in like cost to dps wise, better off like going for the other main dps towers now
this is worse than John deleting carrier map
*A tier tower*
Its completly outclassed by Pursuit now
hmmmm, ALSO I WONDER WHO WAS MAKING OUT GATLING TO BE SOMETHING THAT SPAWNKILL AWAKANED FALLEN KING (yes Eggrypted, I a looking at you)
The tower isn't amazing, its completly useless
A tier tower/Outclassed by Pursuit = Useless? What are you smoking?
No one‘s ever using this tower if it’s outclassed by a tower that is only 100lv to get and is like two times less price than Gatling no one’s using when they figure out that pursuit is better than it
3:00 That's asking a lot for a roblox game community.
Nah bro it's lowkey ur fault
hmm I wonder whos fault this is hint hint
Most of the community that wines about it being too overpowered fault they’re whining when it’s the most expensive tower to get the hardest to get so it’s just not worth it anymore
HOLY I KNEW IT!
I dont care,as long as my glorious king , Shotgunner returned with 1dps buff👑
Wow... the devs are forcing players to use theyre last brain cell XD
my balances changes for it is make it a single target dps tower undo the buffs make him his dps up to like 2950 dps
the dps gets lowered once a player joins in
Duo=2500
trio=2000
quad= 1600
the tower is NOT doing 2950 dps, stop spreading lies, pierce does not equal double dps
People be commenting on thus video before watching
low attention span momment
They should lower the upgrade costs it's kinda overpriced now
I think kinda is a understatement because this shit is almost 300 K to upgrade max and if it’s worse than pursuit, no one‘s buying it
@@spencermarshall3734like bro just spam max engineers or pursuits at this point 🙏
How did you defend early game with that loadout
Consumables probably
Is the tower good? Yes it is
Should you grind for it? No, just don't unless you want to 100% beat tds or smthn like that
Is the tower one of the worst advanced yes is mini gunner better on DPS yes so that means none of the ones that don’t have it don’t get it unless it gets buffed again
"g-guys the tower is hitting multiple enemies so it means its doing double the dps right" no it isn't stop saying lies, it does the same dps on every enemy stop thinking in this nonsensical way thinking it adds 1000+ more dps with every enemy hit
how do you play td games after saying this
@@Santaren342these people think the tower is doing double the dps just because it pierces through multiple enemies, thats absolute nonsense, if we go by that logic every splash dmg tower is doing double the dps just cause it hits multiple enemies, its a nonsensical way to see things and idk who started this dumb trend of pierce = double dps
@@Santaren342i play them like any other is my statement wrong
@serily4524 ok i finally got time to explain this to you
the reason why the dps is doubled is NOT because of the tower just gaining more dmg whenever it hits more enemies, its because the tower is hitting MULTIPLE enemies with a single shot
for example, if some tower like mortar dealt 150 dps at max by the stats only, if he hits 3 enemies with a single shot, hes dealing 150 dps to the 3 enemies separately which adds up to 450 dps with a singular shot, hence why the dps is tripled
tdlr, dps doesnt get multiplicated cuz dmg improves the more enemies it hits, its because thats the dps on every enemy the tower hits added up
Just when I just bought it recently, I want a refund :(
bro it was bad before now its trash
DUDE THE TDS NEWS IS ALL FLOODED WITH THE GATLING BEING A BAD TOWER (I still grinding my 2nd golden skin 😭 and yall keep pop up with "THEY KILL THE GATLING" like wth a nerf is a nerf guys..) and now the pursuit is forgotten like barely anymore talk about it except content 💀
What the point of using gatling as dps when 6 engineers can do it better:-)?
Ngl eggrypted u did say gatling needed a nerf
That's why you don't need to do videos like that
he doesnt need to do videos warning the devs about serious balancing problems in the game
The community says please give this thing a slight Nerf so it’s actually fun and the dev said OK guys let’s make this one of the worst advanced Towers
I doubt it’s unusable but I haven’t tried it out yet
well i just wasted 35k coins after i bought this a week ago for this .__.
This was deserved, no questions
not to this level
No, they should’ve nerfed the piercing
I know the Nerf for gattling is deserved but still saying the Nerf is deserved even though the Nerf made it completely to the ground and most or all dps towers are better is wild. Everyone just expected a small Nerf to balance the game it would still be in s but not s+. It's not deserved because it costs 175 levels and 35k coins but other level towers such as pursuit, mercenary base or might even be turret better than gattling.
For me the nerf was deserved but I think the range should still remain the same
@@XxPedro86xXwell what u think for u is wrong
Tds caring about his Game 👏🏻, bravo!
Why does TDS always have to listen to the please, Nerf comments like why don’t they look at the comments the comments why you’re not trying to make old commandoes rip off
TDS nerfing and buffing the Gatling Gun.
In order for yall to be happy, you need to do the hardest thing you can do as a tds player (braindead sack of soggy concrete that shrieks in horrendous agony whenever an integer value is slightly reduced)
Accept the fact gatling had the game by the throat and was choking it to death, be THANKFUL the entire game (or future content) wasn't (or won't) balanced around gatling, accept that its still an awesome tower, and move on.
you people really think gatling was making the game unbalanced LMAO every other endgame dps tower outbeat it when spammed, thats the point of engineer accel etc, they needed to nerf pierce
Was conditional and needed certain Placements to be viable, was horrible single target especially vs major bosses, lvl 175 tower locked behind 35k coins now worse than free turret? Its better than other towers, what is so hard to accept.
At least they buffed commander
remember you asked for this 💀💀💀💀💀💀
No, they asked for a slight Nerf not old commando Nerf
I knew it was gonna get nerfed but dang
Yeasssss this makes me so happy
S tier your mom i would put it on b tier
It's sucks on boss now
600 dps get real bruh
Idc about the crowd control at all
"i dont care about the crowd control at all 🤓" just stfu and sit down kid. If you cant see the real extent of the tower's potential then you have no rights to say if its good or bad
Yeah, people liked this tower because of its DPS. They did not care very much about the crowd control because there’s a lot of better crowd control characters than that
They better revert the stats or *I will dislike*
shiver me timbers
@@amzori yes
HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE DISLIKE BUTTON!? MY GOD, MAN, YOU'RE INSANE!!
Just quit. IT seems that you don't have any braincells to work with since you want galling to go back to being an instant win button.
tds releases a new tower
ppl complain
tds nerfs the new tower
ppl complain
tds: ???
Well, it’s kind of TDS fault because people say Nerf not old commando
@@spencermarshall3734 still y'all asked for it
gatling: i so bad now 😔
turret and minigunner: lol loser