Remember this tower cost 35K coins to unlock, you need be a late game player, expensive placement cost and it has to be manually operated. Now this tower lost its value, No one should use this tower. It's not even fun to use given you need to reload a lot more now.
Listen tds.. this tower was op because it requires 35k AND to be level 175, the whole point was to reward high level players with the best dps tower in the game, for a big cost. I know it needed a nerf but almost half the dps?? No. Bad move. It went from the best dps tower to “another dps tower” this was too much of a nerf and most players wont even bother getting it anymore because of the expensive price. Personally, I was really looking forward to get this tower as a level 165 player because it looks like a lot of fun to use but now I’m not even going to buy it.
Yeah I just reached level 175, and I need like 22k more coins like I don’t even feel like grinding for it when it isn’t really worth my time. I also just like he said don’t want to play tds to go into a first person shooter, what I need to grind for is engineer as that is actually with my time.
It was a really bad move to bring the long awaited rework with a heavy nerf of one the most unique and engaging towers on the same day. They could've made the nerf like 3 days later after the rework show settled down.
I find it dumb how they severely decreased the DPS and it costs more to upgrade. Not to mention the amount of coins you need and need to be a really high level, I find this nerf honestly stupid
17:20 he has a good point though, before the nerf people relied on the gatling gun so much so that when it got reworked, everyone had to start strategizing and thinking more into their loadouts. TDS is a game about strategy and when you have an OP tower like gatling, it takes that aspect out of the game.
Now, even though I don’t have it, i understand why it got 300 of its dps removed. A tower dealing 1000 dps is crazy since it can just destroy everything in its path with no issue. And with some buffs like commander, it’s even more insane. But I am still sad seeing it get nerfed since I just got Mercenary Base at Level 150.
7 REGULAR max mini gunners put out 1.1k dps for 189k in cash. Gattling literally has never been a single target dps tower. It just got blown out of proportion because of its 1 placement limit and high peirce dps
Tbh, they should've made the non fps mode better thanks to the damage nerf, and shouldn't of increased it's price since they already made the damage worse, I could be wrong though, I never really used Gatling Gun even though I have it, I just found it to be kinda annoying to have to constantly control it and find good placements for it, but it should be strong, It's like the most endgame tower you can buy, along with it's insane pricetag, high level requirement, and not to mention the placement limit one one... The nerf was kinda understandable, but they shouldn't of made it ALL negatives, there should've been some decent positives too, like a "re-balance" that's still a nerf, but not just a nerf For example they could've done something like: 1) Added a single level of pierce for the non fps mode 2) Increase the angles for the non fps mode, instead of decreasing them- 3) Adding a Heat Vision mode, to fix the issue with maps with lots of walls making it hard to see enemies I don't think people would've complained as much if they improved it in other areas, for the dmg nerf, assuming these were added the increased price would also make more sense.
Personally, when I had the option to buy Gatling or save up like 5000 coins for my third gold crate, I chose the gold crate, because I probably couldn't handle managing the first person mode and placing other towers to help, and so now that it's nerfed, I probably wont' even bother getting it tbh, even though I probably wouldn't have used it often when it was overpowered anyways
This is a horrible nerf, whether you agree or not. The nerfs are so generic the upgrade costs being increased was pretty obvious and it makes sense but this tower now literally does like 100 more dps than turret while costing 200k. They should've really nerfed the stun immunity and pierce like my idea was if you placed gatling at cliffs he would be stun immune and if you placed him in the ground he would be able to use his infinite pierce.
@@RetroGDGamer Issues: outrageous pricing, only 1 tower can be placed per person and that requires a horde to even reach said dps which can also be done by a lvl 75 tower (so crazy right??)
@@lily_ofthedark issues: crying over their savior being nerfed, only 1 tower being actually really good because its compressed dps, relies on the player which is awesome, and lvl 75 tower doesn't have full map range, any targeting you want, and hidden detection.
I get this tower was overpowered but to get it the player would already be in very late game, where they want a fun tower, I know it was kinda stupid but I don’t think they should have nerfed it this hard or even at all.
A nerf was needed but it was a little too harsh. As the best tower in the game with its 35k expense, it should be better than most towers. But knocking it down so much to being a mediocre sub-dps tower wasn’t the way to go Like the tower shouldn’t be too op to literally solo bosses, but it’s wrong to make the “best” tower to be just as good as accel. Should’ve balanced it better, not sure how though🤷
They could’ve made gatling not have first person and instead have you use an ability to make it turn, raised the costs to 175K, and removed all the pierce and stun immunity
To be honest if this means it's allowed to be used in events now it's actually gonna still be extremely good due to the nature of event economy encouraging dumping on one dps and most tracks are extremely good for pierce towers. Most of the nerfs are really just centered around non fps mode too.
Sure it may have been the strongest tower in the game, but it was held back by a LOT (only one can be placed, you basically NEED to manually use it for the early levels, massive cash sink, only a small area to shoot in automatically, and expensive as hell) and needed a high level and 35K coins to even use. The nerf would have been fine if it were a SMALL nerf, but it just went from one of the best towers in the game to being not worth using.
i mean for a level 175 tower that costs 35k to buy i think the nerf was a little too much they could have just nerfed max level by like 10% or just increased the price by a lot. RIP gatling prime
i see this game as just bloons but in roblox, so gatling should be made with the bloons gatling in mind, you set points for it to look at, it shoots down those, and you can place multiple, either to all look down one straight way or to cover multiple straights at once
@@okgoose3305 maybe with a bit of tds flair but yeah something pretty similar, the whole "only one tower of it with crazy numbers" isnt rly something i fw
@@Coocoocrazy3 unique but makes it so the turret kinda has to have crazy stats. i think of they tweaked its stats to be a little lower, got rid of fps, and made it so you can place or 3 its be lit
Lowkey all point you made for gatling were true. It WAS too good, and seeing it nerfed was a good choice. (But really a tower that's MADE for dps gets hella nerfed in dps? There could've been a way more interesting nerf to be made.)
Personally I didn't use gatling as much, but it definitively deserved the nerf, every single game was, 1. farm 2. place gatling 3. win, it became so dull that you could use a single tower and win every game without strategy
Lol I didn't use Gatling too much either since I wanted to use other towers and it was a hassle to do fps mode to reline up the Gatling gun back to its original place and do think it deserves the rebalance/nerf
Tell us you're retarded without telling us. You're just another developer bootlicker. Now it aint worth shit because the devs dont know what the fuck they're doing in balance. Fuck them and their families.
Now it’s pierce is its main strength which makes it way worse for late game bosses. I understand why they went this route but with 5 tower slots, this hurts and I’m not sure if my friend will be able to use this as his secondary dps for hardcore anymore, although we’ll probably replace it with heli now that it’s the juggernaut.
if you think about it, it really wasn’t that overpowered before. you pay THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND COINS FOR IT, and you can only place one tower. I don’t get the reasoning behind why it absolutely needed a nerf.
On how gatling works (for me), it follow the trope of overpriced high dps tower so you can bring other support towers like medic, merc base, dj, etc. Removing most of its dps (even though it doesnt seem like it got dethroned) is just sad
if i were to nerf, i would nerf its pierce and make it 0 damage when not using making it 0 damage when not using is a nerf that would make the tower more unique and different
@@l3ol16yeah but it is a NEW CONCEPT rather than just placing down towers and they do the job for you. I don’t have Gattling gun but yeah the nerf was too much, buff max level at this point, 3 turrets and pursuits are much better
They have every reason to nerf it since yes, it costs 35k and has a level requirement of 175, but it should in no right, be able to cheese everything and allow you to turn your brain off. This reninds me of when accel was the dominant dps tower back in 2021-2023.
Yeah I kind of agree, maybe the nerf was a little bit too much, but it was well deserved. Maybe they could just nerf its early game and increase prices for all levels. But now that the nerf is here, you have to use other towers instead of looking at an enemy while holding the fire button. It’s still reliable, but finally it got nerfed. And I also hope we don’t get Gatling gunner Stan’s like how we had Accelerator Stan’s, both towers are no longer dominant in the meta. Even tho accelerator got buffed a lot, when compared to when it use to rule T.D.S, its stats increased (especially damage) a lot. But now you can actually use other towers, (back then only like four towers were even useable because they others were so bad) in fact, I’m sure it was only king because it was one of the only usable DPS towers back then. (This is just my opinion, if you disagree with it then dislike this comment and move on)
It did deserve a nerf but this absolutely destroyed it, the nerf gave gatling no redeeming qualities like if the dps is going to get nerfed BY 35% at least nerf the price NOT INCREASE IT
To be honest, i didn't really use gatling so much because i was too lazy to shoot the enemies for pierce. I just use engi, accel, turret and pursuit for main dps most of the time. I'm pretty sure gatling specializes in pierce not single target so this was not really a good move. But then again they couldn't test it before they released it so they might make some more changes on the gatling gun tower.
very dumb nerf removing 300 dps from a tower and making it more costly to upgrade is ridiculous I agree that a tower that can solo fallen is out of hand, but the purpose of the tower was to provide heavy supporting fire while it still can do that, considering the requirements for unlocking it, it shouldn't have that heavy a nerf
Commando got buffed though? Losing one pierce doesn't feel like a big deal at all, it's unlikely getting a shot hitting 4 enemies on mid game, or 5 enemies on late game, compared to the massive 25% guaranteed damage buff on last level, on top of the missile damage and stun time buffs.
While the gatling nerf was pretty bad I do agree the commando nerf back then actually killed the tower completely like gatling is at least somewhat okay now but old commando after the nerf was so trash the tower should've been reworked a long time ago
It made sense for it to be strong I would understand a small nerf but they nerfed it too much, you have to be lvl 175 AND spend 35k coins on it so it should be strong and not be outclassed by a tower you get for FREE at lvl 100.
@@jadennguyen2852 just untrue?1st of all 3 gold towers are better than Gatling currently those 3 are g crookboss g pyro and g cowboy G crookboss is great for early mid and late game has hidden and flying detection with 100 DPS goons and the actual tower having 200 DPS While g pyro even after the pierce nerf makes early game hc a joke While g cowboy is just op for money making on soloes
@ gcb relies on units, without them it’s a pile of mid. g pyro is literally outclassed by electro lmao. g cowboy is just mid, only useful in legacy modes and even then, better to use other stuff.
@ it is, electro performs better than g pyro, every good tower makes fallen a joke, gcb RELIES on units, im did not say whatever the hell u were thinking buddy. once those units die the tower is straight up useless
Gatling gun was really good, and I would use it for every game mode, it def needed a nerf now I haven't used it in my loadouts since it got nerfed it's still the highest dps tower in the game for 1 tower, but I think they cooked the single target damage on it like now it's a crowd control tower
Gatling getting nerfed was a canon event. A 1000 dps tower was way too good to be true, so a nerf had to happen. I think that this big of a nerf was a little overkill, but you have to admit it makes sense. We got high off of an overpowered tower that killed everything so easily that, when it was taken away all of a sudden, the community crashes out. We wouldn’t really be complaining about its dps as of now if it started off this way. Please buff just a little, devs.
I'm sorry, but 1000 dps is NOT a lot for a late game dps tower. Remember, you can only place one gatling, while you can place multiple of everything else. You can get anywhere from 1200 with turret to 6000 with REGULAR minigunner. The only thing that made gatling gunner strong was it's piercing, which should have been nerfed instrsd and the only thing the devs touched, and infinite range, both of which require constant management of the tower and without which it was basically worse ranger. Not to mention, it not only had the highest level requirement of any tower in the game, but also the highest coin cost of any tower in the game, a price only dwarfed by the Cosy of a golden crate (and even then, gatling was 70% of the cost of a g crate anyways). Now, it has less single target dps than 2 turrets and it's piercing does not make up for it. Hell, literally everything gatling gunner can do is done better by pursuit now, which is less than half the coin cost and 75 levels less to obtain.
@@dansmith6300ok, but consider that since the gatling only uses up 1 tower space (in terms of the placement limit), it allows you to make more room to place more of the towers that you mentioned. also, stun immunity.
Only removing like 150-200 dps would’ve been better imo, enough to still have a significant impact but still needs support from other towers, as every tower should
Gatling gun wasnt suppose to nerf like that. They should've just remove Hidden detection as a nerf instead of decreasing dps and price ;--: since this one most focused on FPS mode prob
Commando technically got the biggest nerf in tds history as in the mega update during 2019 it lost most of its good capabilities like for example in pre mega it had 124 dps and it had around 40 - 50 dps from what i remeber
@@discotech6178commando was the best tower back then but was completely destroyed during it's nerf which genuinely made the tower useless at least the tower you mentioned have SOME use
So in a nutshell, Gatling went from S++ Tier against hordes of enemies to S Tier. Against single target, it went from S Tier to B-. IMO not worth wasting one slot on.
I haven't used this tower but looking back at your first vid it was a little op. I usually dont like it when the devs make main dps towers into support dps towers but i think its fair here because it went from "i just need this tower to beat fallen" to "i need to help my other towers out".
We only needed a small Nerf not a fricking huge Nerf going from best dps tower from being worse than engi, accel, pursuit and might be on par or even worse than turret or gmini. So it would be 4th place but if it's worse than turret or g mini literally almost last I think
Even though I have gattling, I still don’t use it that much, that includes before the rework. Was the nerf necessary, yes. Was it a harsh, a bit but it’s still not a bad tower(maybe buff its damage a bit better CE). Also just cuz a tower takes alot to get dosent mean it should be OP.
wdym? its 175 level requirmetns with a whooping 35k coin, are you serious? i know it was gonna get nerfed but the nerf was just abit too harash, they could just let the upgrade remain same OR nerf all upgrades except last one, or just make it more expansive but remain same OR place limt of 2 instead of 1 which 90% wont happan i prefer the second one though, No, sicne it takes alot to get , iT MUST be worth it, now its not really worth buying it, just save for golden tower or buy pursit & turret.
@@WDRR4K2WithRobloxIt has to be worth it in it's own category, it's own way It beat most towers in dps per cost assuming maximum efficiency. It lost 300 dps, it's max dps is now 1500. Still not that bad
Kinda angers me. Sure it's a gamepass, but for people like me that play the game and grind for towers like this. This shit is infuriating. Edit: You rant is valid, however, remember, this is a tower that is unlocked for f2p players at level 175 with a cost of 35k. It has it's reasons and situations being strong, but bashing this hard is kinda stupid man. Look at pursuit, it's outdoing a SINGLE PLACEMENT ONLY TOWER, with basically half the requirements to unlock it.
This big of a nerf!? the solo target is horrible! you forcefully need now another dps if you want to beat any heavy boss? i mean why not making it double path like pursuit? like top path has higher dps but no spread and the other has i dont know explosive penetrating ammo and less dps more crowd control.
I probably cant even have much of a say since I don't have the tower, but I will anyway. If a tower was able to let you deadass turn your brain off, aim down one line, and just hold click with little to no worry of losing in fallen at times, a nerf is needed. Yes I can see it being too much, but it at least makes you have to bring other towers now and not just that one alone. If I being for real, the main people complaining are the ones that cant turn their brains off and basically win for free, now you actually need to think more so its nice.
TDS Try to build a tower correctly during testing before releasing it to the public and realizing they need to nerf it after a couple of months, annoying the fans challenge: Impossible Seriously, I know balancing needs to happen for a game with so many systems with their own dynamics, but how long do they actually test these towers?
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I love how Gattling gun nerf was a bigger attraction than pursuit rework
Probaly because Pursuit is basically better than Gatling
Meanwhile Gatling is literally 75 level requirement more than Pursuit (100)
Its heavier to find an old truth to be a lie than finding a fresh new truth, if u catch what i mean.
it was the only tower the brainless noobs knew how to use
hi agar
@@yellowball1948175* actually
Dawg got a worse downgrade than the T. rex to the chicken
Un-evolution
Yeah that’s what happened tho
True
Wrm actually t rex didn't evolve into chickens there just different theropods
to T.rex To the chicken To the insect To the sh1t.
Remember this tower cost 35K coins to unlock, you need be a late game player, expensive placement cost and it has to be manually operated. Now this tower lost its value, No one should use this tower. It's not even fun to use given you need to reload a lot more now.
Tds players when the most op towers becomes just op
@@amzoriwtf u tryna say bro
now it shoots water.
@@amzorinot even close to op
@@amzori Basic non-gatling owner reaction:
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Not even surprised it got nerfed since I taught it was a little powerful but I wasnt expecting such a big nerf
It literaly cost 200k his old dmg was so good for his price
ah yes the water gatling. Shoots literal water
Listen tds.. this tower was op because it requires 35k AND to be level 175, the whole point was to reward high level players with the best dps tower in the game, for a big cost. I know it needed a nerf but almost half the dps?? No. Bad move. It went from the best dps tower to “another dps tower” this was too much of a nerf and most players wont even bother getting it anymore because of the expensive price. Personally, I was really looking forward to get this tower as a level 165 player because it looks like a lot of fun to use but now I’m not even going to buy it.
Yeah I just reached level 175, and I need like 22k more coins like I don’t even feel like grinding for it when it isn’t really worth my time. I also just like he said don’t want to play tds to go into a first person shooter, what I need to grind for is engineer as that is actually with my time.
Honestly you're lucky you didn't buy it. I basically wasted 35k cause now gold towers are better. It was so good before nerf.
bro might have got a little heated by the end there
Elite's crashout
It was a really bad move to bring the long awaited rework with a heavy nerf of one the most unique and engaging towers on the same day. They could've made the nerf like 3 days later after the rework show settled down.
wouldn't have done much tbh
*Behold The Water Gatling. Shoots water for a price of 115k only*
I find it dumb how they severely decreased the DPS and it costs more to upgrade. Not to mention the amount of coins you need and need to be a really high level, I find this nerf honestly stupid
fr now you’re better off using turret or something
"2500 dps, balanced tower"
wdym he got nerfed? now he sucks.
HE WAS WAY TOO OVERPOWERED. AND HE'S ALSO A CROWD CONTROL TOWER, NOT DPS.
@@RetroGDGamer it was a dps tower and a crowd, Gatling gun literally had a dps for someone that was able to solo hardcore with it!
yeah but it got nerfed TOO hard, now turret is better
@@howitizerthattypes972 ikr, a level 50 tower better than a level 175, that cost 35k coins tower
Gatling was like:
"I am the best DPS tower in the game!"
TO
"I'm one of the DPS towers in the game!"
"Im one of the towers in the game"
I am the dps tower of the game
TO
I am a tower of the game.
"im a tower in the game"
It was a bit too harsh. I believe it needed a nerf yes, but this, this was TOO much
*“I used to shoot bullets but Now I Shoot Water!”*
Never saw Elite this pissed off, the background music really fit the vibe
17:20 he has a good point though, before the nerf people relied on the gatling gun so much so that when it got reworked, everyone had to start strategizing and thinking more into their loadouts. TDS is a game about strategy and when you have an OP tower like gatling, it takes that aspect out of the game.
This is basically just a controllable turret
Now, even though I don’t have it, i understand why it got 300 of its dps removed. A tower dealing 1000 dps is crazy since it can just destroy everything in its path with no issue. And with some buffs like commander, it’s even more insane. But I am still sad seeing it get nerfed since I just got Mercenary Base at Level 150.
Meanwhile tdx almost every tower in tdx does over 1k dps.
@@brendanliew9598 yk tdx is a different game right? with different balancing
1k dps is actually very low if we compare other towers using max placement limit
@@brendanliew9598 tdx has bosses with like 1-10 million hp, they kinda need that dps.
7 REGULAR max mini gunners put out 1.1k dps for 189k in cash. Gattling literally has never been a single target dps tower. It just got blown out of proportion because of its 1 placement limit and high peirce dps
Tbh, they should've made the non fps mode better thanks to the damage nerf, and shouldn't of increased it's price since they already made the damage worse, I could be wrong though, I never really used Gatling Gun even though I have it, I just found it to be kinda annoying to have to constantly control it and find good placements for it, but it should be strong, It's like the most endgame tower you can buy, along with it's insane pricetag, high level requirement, and not to mention the placement limit one one... The nerf was kinda understandable, but they shouldn't of made it ALL negatives, there should've been some decent positives too, like a "re-balance" that's still a nerf, but not just a nerf
For example they could've done something like:
1) Added a single level of pierce for the non fps mode
2) Increase the angles for the non fps mode, instead of decreasing them-
3) Adding a Heat Vision mode, to fix the issue with maps with lots of walls making it hard to see enemies
I don't think people would've complained as much if they improved it in other areas, for the dmg nerf, assuming these were added the increased price would also make more sense.
Personally, when I had the option to buy Gatling or save up like 5000 coins for my third gold crate, I chose the gold crate, because I probably couldn't handle managing the first person mode and placing other towers to help, and so now that it's nerfed, I probably wont' even bother getting it tbh, even though I probably wouldn't have used it often when it was overpowered anyways
The old gatling gun was only good when paired with other dps towers, still true to now
17:44 Actually fact: They shouldn't add Gatling Gun if that's the problem.
16:16 Elite starts to genuinely tweak out
This is a horrible nerf, whether you agree or not.
The nerfs are so generic the upgrade costs being increased was pretty obvious and it makes sense but this tower now literally does like 100 more dps than turret while costing 200k.
They should've really nerfed the stun immunity and pierce like my idea was if you placed gatling at cliffs he would be stun immune and if you placed him in the ground he would be able to use his infinite pierce.
BRO HE HAS PIERCE
tds players when 2500 dps tower is now 1600 dps: "BAD TOWER BAD NERF"
@@RetroGDGamer Issues: outrageous pricing, only 1 tower can be placed per person and that requires a horde to even reach said dps which can also be done by a lvl 75 tower (so crazy right??)
@@lily_ofthedark issues: crying over their savior being nerfed, only 1 tower being actually really good because its compressed dps, relies on the player which is awesome, and lvl 75 tower doesn't have full map range, any targeting you want, and hidden detection.
also, higher lvl tower doesn't have to mean stronger, it means smarter and when maximized can be stronger, not some braindead thing like old gatling
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I love how Elite just goes off at 16:16 🤣
I dont mind its later lvls being nerfed but I dislike the early lvl nerfs 1-3
I get this tower was overpowered but to get it the player would already be in very late game, where they want a fun tower, I know it was kinda stupid but I don’t think they should have nerfed it this hard or even at all.
now its water gatling
The pursuit got a glow up meanwhile the gattling gun got a glow down
The bigger they are, the harder they fall
We paid... 35k for this... I would like a refund thank you
I mean they could still buff or rebalance it
This nerf was necessary to make this tower more balanced.
I hope it gets rebuffed or balanced.
Womp womp, you should have known a nerf would have come considering how op it was.
Lol
12:10 how DARE you diss yhe paintballer
BROOOO I LITERALLY JUST GOT IT ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! 😭
A nerf was needed but it was a little too harsh.
As the best tower in the game with its 35k expense, it should be better than most towers. But knocking it down so much to being a mediocre sub-dps tower wasn’t the way to go
Like the tower shouldn’t be too op to literally solo bosses, but it’s wrong to make the “best” tower to be just as good as accel. Should’ve balanced it better, not sure how though🤷
They could’ve made gatling not have first person and instead have you use an ability to make it turn, raised the costs to 175K, and removed all the pierce and stun immunity
@@l3ol16yeah that’s also way too harsh, thats gonna make the tower a lot worse to use.
@@Sci-Fi001 yea but I also think if they do what I did they would make it do like 1.5K dps or sum
they DISMANTLED a almost perfect tower dawg
To be honest if this means it's allowed to be used in events now it's actually gonna still be extremely good due to the nature of event economy encouraging dumping on one dps and most tracks are extremely good for pierce towers.
Most of the nerfs are really just centered around non fps mode too.
They can make the upgrade costs cheaper cuz gatling is no longer to be used on its own
I think I understand why it got nerfed. Two of them are able to solo fallen mode with supports. (Pre-nerf)
Got a bit heated at the end LMAO good vid
Now they will nerf pursuit seeing that it is literlly better than gatling now ;-;
Probably not, its not prime Gatling gun level
Sure it may have been the strongest tower in the game, but it was held back by a LOT (only one can be placed, you basically NEED to manually use it for the early levels, massive cash sink, only a small area to shoot in automatically, and expensive as hell) and needed a high level and 35K coins to even use. The nerf would have been fine if it were a SMALL nerf, but it just went from one of the best towers in the game to being not worth using.
Gatling was the only fun thing that i have experienced in a while. Time to quit the game again
HE USED CREO-FLOW AT 6:32 amazing song btw
i mean for a level 175 tower that costs 35k to buy i think the nerf was a little too much they could have just nerfed max level by like 10% or just increased the price by a lot. RIP gatling prime
i see this game as just bloons but in roblox, so gatling should be made with the bloons gatling in mind, you set points for it to look at, it shoots down those, and you can place multiple, either to all look down one straight way or to cover multiple straights at once
so you want a complete copy of the one in bloons
@@okgoose3305 maybe with a bit of tds flair but yeah something pretty similar, the whole "only one tower of it with crazy numbers" isnt rly something i fw
@@alive527you can already (basically) set points for it to shoot at and gatling having a placement limit of 1 is unique
@@Coocoocrazy3 unique but makes it so the turret kinda has to have crazy stats. i think of they tweaked its stats to be a little lower, got rid of fps, and made it so you can place or 3 its be lit
Lowkey all point you made for gatling were true. It WAS too good, and seeing it nerfed was a good choice. (But really a tower that's MADE for dps gets hella nerfed in dps? There could've been a way more interesting nerf to be made.)
Gathling is more of a crowd control tower now but the upgrade prices make it worse I hope they adjust its upgrade prices
Happy thanksgiving Elite! Im having prime rib what are you having?
Personally I didn't use gatling as much, but it definitively deserved the nerf, every single game was, 1. farm 2. place gatling 3. win, it became so dull that you could use a single tower and win every game without strategy
Lol I didn't use Gatling too much either since I wanted to use other towers and it was a hassle to do fps mode to reline up the Gatling gun back to its original place and do think it deserves the rebalance/nerf
Tell us you're retarded without telling us. You're just another developer bootlicker. Now it aint worth shit because the devs dont know what the fuck they're doing in balance. Fuck them and their families.
It did deserve a nerf but not like that
That’s not a nerf
That’s a killing nerf
The tower is useless now
The music does NOT have to be that eerie 😭
Bro roasted everyone thinking the gatling nerf was the worst thing tds had done ;-;
i love how a lvl 175 tower is worse than a lvl 100 tower, the logic is so understandable
Tower Debuff Simulator guys
Now it’s pierce is its main strength which makes it way worse for late game bosses. I understand why they went this route but with 5 tower slots, this hurts and I’m not sure if my friend will be able to use this as his secondary dps for hardcore anymore, although we’ll probably replace it with heli now that it’s the juggernaut.
Bro entered his villain arc in the end💀💀💀
Having to grind 35k and getting to level 175 to purchase a tower that was meant to be super good nerfed like crazy -300 DPS+ Cost going up is crazy
if you think about it, it really wasn’t that overpowered before. you pay THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND COINS FOR IT, and you can only place one tower. I don’t get the reasoning behind why it absolutely needed a nerf.
Tbh gatling deserved a nerf BUT NOT THAT BIG OF A NERF....
On how gatling works (for me), it follow the trope of overpriced high dps tower so you can bring other support towers like medic, merc base, dj, etc. Removing most of its dps (even though it doesnt seem like it got dethroned) is just sad
they took the only good main dps tower
Its really justifieable for a tower that can do 1 k dps almost constantly and also having a crowd control ability
turret is better than gatling now, gatlings pros are that it is stun immune and pierce, you can get 3 turrets too and its way better
+ you needed to get 35k coins and be lvl 175 to get it
+ turret you get for free at lvl 50 and gatling you need to spend 35k coins AND be level 175 to even unlock it
if i were to nerf, i would nerf its pierce and make it 0 damage when not using
making it 0 damage when not using is a nerf that would make the tower more unique and different
Eclipse literally explained why that is a stupid nerf, ITS A TOWER DEFENSE GAME NOT A SHOOTER
@@l3ol16yeah but it is a NEW CONCEPT rather than just placing down towers and they do the job for you.
I don’t have Gattling gun but yeah the nerf was too much, buff max level at this point, 3 turrets and pursuits are much better
Removing its pierce would genuinely be a worser nerf, like gatling gun isn't fully dead but this would definitely 100% kill any use for it
Im kinda glad that gatling was finally nerfed but at the same time i find it stupid the fact that they make it more expensive
I mostly agree with elite like how he said that every level should be nerfed but I think they should just keep the max level the same
They have every reason to nerf it since yes, it costs 35k and has a level requirement of 175, but it should in no right, be able to cheese everything and allow you to turn your brain off. This reninds me of when accel was the dominant dps tower back in 2021-2023.
Yeah I kind of agree, maybe the nerf was a little bit too much, but it was well deserved. Maybe they could just nerf its early game and increase prices for all levels.
But now that the nerf is here, you have to use other towers instead of looking at an enemy while holding the fire button. It’s still reliable, but finally it got nerfed. And I also hope we don’t get Gatling gunner Stan’s like how we had Accelerator Stan’s, both towers are no longer dominant in the meta. Even tho accelerator got buffed a lot, when compared to when it use to rule T.D.S, its stats increased (especially damage) a lot. But now you can actually use other towers, (back then only like four towers were even useable because they others were so bad) in fact, I’m sure it was only king because it was one of the only usable DPS towers back then. (This is just my opinion, if you disagree with it then dislike this comment and move on)
It did deserve a nerf but this absolutely destroyed it, the nerf gave gatling no redeeming qualities like if the dps is going to get nerfed BY 35% at least nerf the price NOT INCREASE IT
To be honest, i didn't really use gatling so much because i was too lazy to shoot the enemies for pierce. I just use engi, accel, turret and pursuit for main dps most of the time. I'm pretty sure gatling specializes in pierce not single target so this was not really a good move. But then again they couldn't test it before they released it so they might make some more changes on the gatling gun tower.
Your kinda right i bought because i needed to beat hidden wave and lost souls
I never really used gatling anyway. I just like watching my army of spawns grow and tear down whatever comes their way.
very dumb nerf
removing 300 dps from a tower and making it more costly to upgrade is ridiculous
I agree that a tower that can solo fallen is out of hand, but the purpose of the tower was to provide heavy supporting fire
while it still can do that, considering the requirements for unlocking it, it shouldn't have that heavy a nerf
Elite I used your star code when I bought 11k robux :) I feel proud of it
Commando nerf was worse since gatling gun is still usable, while commando nerf killed the tower completely
Commando got buffed though?
Losing one pierce doesn't feel like a big deal at all, it's unlikely getting a shot hitting 4 enemies on mid game, or 5 enemies on late game, compared to the massive 25% guaranteed damage buff on last level, on top of the missile damage and stun time buffs.
While the gatling nerf was pretty bad I do agree the commando nerf back then actually killed the tower completely like gatling is at least somewhat okay now but old commando after the nerf was so trash the tower should've been reworked a long time ago
It made sense for it to be strong I would understand a small nerf but they nerfed it too much, you have to be lvl 175 AND spend 35k coins on it so it should be strong and not be outclassed by a tower you get for FREE at lvl 100.
I kept telling people Gatling will get nerfed and never bought it myself, and now here we are. Always get golden towers first
gatling is still better than the g towers lol
@@jadennguyen2852 just untrue?1st of all 3 gold towers are better than Gatling currently those 3 are g crookboss g pyro and g cowboy
G crookboss is great for early mid and late game has hidden and flying detection with 100 DPS goons and the actual tower having 200 DPS
While g pyro even after the pierce nerf makes early game hc a joke
While g cowboy is just op for money making on soloes
@ gcb relies on units, without them it’s a pile of mid. g pyro is literally outclassed by electro lmao. g cowboy is just mid, only useful in legacy modes and even then, better to use other stuff.
@@jadennguyen2852g pyro isn't outclassed and g cowboy makes fallen a joke and u can't just say gcb without units because that's how he works 💀
@ it is, electro performs better than g pyro, every good tower makes fallen a joke, gcb RELIES on units, im did not say whatever the hell u were thinking buddy. once those units die the tower is straight up useless
Gatling gun was really good, and I would use it for every game mode, it def needed a nerf now I haven't used it in my loadouts since it got nerfed it's still the highest dps tower in the game for 1 tower, but I think they cooked the single target damage on it like now it's a crowd control tower
His went from best DPS in the game by far to just an arguably slightly better turret.
Gatling getting nerfed was a canon event. A 1000 dps tower was way too good to be true, so a nerf had to happen. I think that this big of a nerf was a little overkill, but you have to admit it makes sense. We got high off of an overpowered tower that killed everything so easily that, when it was taken away all of a sudden, the community crashes out. We wouldn’t really be complaining about its dps as of now if it started off this way. Please buff just a little, devs.
Finally someone understands the reason why they nerfed it
I'm sorry, but 1000 dps is NOT a lot for a late game dps tower. Remember, you can only place one gatling, while you can place multiple of everything else. You can get anywhere from 1200 with turret to 6000 with REGULAR minigunner. The only thing that made gatling gunner strong was it's piercing, which should have been nerfed instrsd and the only thing the devs touched, and infinite range, both of which require constant management of the tower and without which it was basically worse ranger. Not to mention, it not only had the highest level requirement of any tower in the game, but also the highest coin cost of any tower in the game, a price only dwarfed by the Cosy of a golden crate (and even then, gatling was 70% of the cost of a g crate anyways). Now, it has less single target dps than 2 turrets and it's piercing does not make up for it. Hell, literally everything gatling gunner can do is done better by pursuit now, which is less than half the coin cost and 75 levels less to obtain.
@@dansmith6300say that to the people who beat hardcore solo with Gatling with FOUR slots it needed a nerf
@@dansmith6300ok, but consider that since the gatling only uses up 1 tower space (in terms of the placement limit), it allows you to make more room to place more of the towers that you mentioned. also, stun immunity.
Only removing like 150-200 dps would’ve been better imo, enough to still have a significant impact but still needs support from other towers, as every tower should
The fact that a level 100 tower is better than a level 175 tower that cost so much is insane
The glazing in gatling gun is CRAZY!
too bad its all true
RIP THE GATLINGS PRIME
Overnerfed, especially with how it keeps the player away from managing other towers when using it
Gatling gun wasnt suppose to nerf like that. They should've just remove Hidden detection as a nerf instead of decreasing dps and price ;--: since this one most focused on FPS mode prob
Commando technically got the biggest nerf in tds history as in the mega update during 2019 it lost most of its good capabilities like for example in pre mega it had 124 dps and it had around 40 - 50 dps from what i remeber
It was until
Toxic,jester,sledger and gatling nerfs came
Nah, biggest nerf was old commander, lost the call of arms ability stacking so it went from infinitely faster firerate -> 55% faster firerate
@@discotech6178commando was the best tower back then but was completely destroyed during it's nerf which genuinely made the tower useless at least the tower you mentioned have SOME use
I feel like if they’re gonna nerf it so bad they should atleast give the option for a refund on the tower.
So in a nutshell, Gatling went from S++ Tier against hordes of enemies to S Tier. Against single target, it went from S Tier to B-. IMO not worth wasting one slot on.
750 dps wouldve made more sense tbh
The reload time was long enough in its final levels and now they nerf his damage
I haven't used this tower but looking back at your first vid it was a little op. I usually dont like it when the devs make main dps towers into support dps towers but i think its fair here because it went from "i just need this tower to beat fallen" to "i need to help my other towers out".
Needed. 2500 dps is absolutely outrageous and it kind of ruined the strategy with how good it was. Really good nerf.
Well if yall have a problem with that thing dealing 2500 dps on a damn crowd then lemme introduce to you our beloved mortar...
We only needed a small Nerf not a fricking huge Nerf going from best dps tower from being worse than engi, accel, pursuit and might be on par or even worse than turret or gmini. So it would be 4th place but if it's worse than turret or g mini literally almost last I think
@@lily_ofthedark if you think mortar is on the same level as gatling then you have overdosed on something really bad
@@jadennguyen2852 1 mortar hitting 4 enemies is already 450 dps, and they tend to hit more than that in some maps
@@lily_ofthedarkbut gatling gunner is always almost hitting 3 enemies where mortar having high dps is situational.
they should have nerfed the pierce instead of the damage, which was appropriately priced for how strong it was.
I’m wondering if gattling gun is still god for solo speed runs?
i spend 9 hours for nothing🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
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you got a bit heated at the end there elite :sob:
I would say it definetly needed a nerf but not a nerf where it makes many other towers worth using and not using this anymore😭
Dog I finally saved up for it and it just got nerfed 😭
Even though I have gattling, I still don’t use it that much, that includes before the rework. Was the nerf necessary, yes. Was it a harsh, a bit but it’s still not a bad tower(maybe buff its damage a bit better CE). Also just cuz a tower takes alot to get dosent mean it should be OP.
wdym? its 175 level requirmetns with a whooping 35k coin, are you serious? i know it was gonna get nerfed but the nerf was just abit too harash, they could just let the upgrade remain same OR nerf all upgrades except last one, or just make it more expansive but remain same OR place limt of 2 instead of 1 which 90% wont happan i prefer the second one though, No, sicne it takes alot to get , iT MUST be worth it, now its not really worth buying it, just save for golden tower or buy pursit & turret.
@@WDRR4K2WithRobloxIt has to be worth it in it's own category, it's own way
It beat most towers in dps per cost assuming maximum efficiency. It lost 300 dps, it's max dps is now 1500. Still not that bad
nerf was a bit too harsh imo, but i understand why it had to be done
This is why I always wait when a new good tower comes out. got to keep my 35k
Kinda angers me. Sure it's a gamepass, but for people like me that play the game and grind for towers like this. This shit is infuriating.
Edit: You rant is valid, however, remember, this is a tower that is unlocked for f2p players at level 175 with a cost of 35k. It has it's reasons and situations being strong, but bashing this hard is kinda stupid man. Look at pursuit, it's outdoing a SINGLE PLACEMENT ONLY TOWER, with basically half the requirements to unlock it.
can you play tdx pls??
This big of a nerf!? the solo target is horrible! you forcefully need now another dps if you want to beat any heavy boss? i mean why not making it double path like pursuit? like top path has higher dps but no spread and the other has i dont know explosive penetrating ammo and less dps more crowd control.
My brother in christ if they wanted to do that then they essentially remaking the tower from scratch
ngl, at the end, he had a reasonable crashout
I probably cant even have much of a say since I don't have the tower, but I will anyway.
If a tower was able to let you deadass turn your brain off, aim down one line, and just hold click with little to no worry of losing in fallen at times, a nerf is needed. Yes I can see it being too much, but it at least makes you have to bring other towers now and not just that one alone. If I being for real, the main people complaining are the ones that cant turn their brains off and basically win for free, now you actually need to think more so its nice.
TDS Try to build a tower correctly during testing before releasing it to the public and realizing they need to nerf it after a couple of months, annoying the fans challenge:
Impossible
Seriously, I know balancing needs to happen for a game with so many systems with their own dynamics, but how long do they actually test these towers?
Lol i know the song that played in the gatling gun test, its flow by creo, isnt it
Did bro forget about the mortar nerf 😭
Literally half its damage was just ERASED