Yamaha THR100HD: Soren Andersen
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- Soren Andersen explains and demonstrates different ways of using the Yamaha THR100HD including dual-channel, dual amp and stereo setups.
Soren's THR was recorded using only the mics - no DI, no EQ and no-post FX. Everything you hear is from THR Head...
www.yamaha.com/thr
I don't usually comment on this stuff, but this might be the best gear demo I've ever seen. Great player with an agreeable personality, excellent sound quality, and the perfect mix of talking and actual playing.
I Think this guy is the perfect salesman for this type of amp.... he has highlighted the positive attributes of the amp and demonstrated them expertly..... the amp literally sells itself when you hear it live.... and hes a screamin player... respect......
Doze any one no the name of that over drive his using
Just bought mine 2 months ago. Beyond happy. The versatility is incredible and it truly does take effects really well.
It is critical to load the software at least once to upgrade firmware and also to ensure the mix for effects loop is to your taste I.e. left or right or both
Do you still have it?
Loving what I've heard of this amp so far...so many amp myths blown outta the water....way to go Yamaha!!! I'm so going to have to try one of these after Xmas. Thanks for the cool demo Soren :)
wow that sounds huge best amp modeller out there
Getting one this weekend 🤠
Can't wait ,,,, had pretty much all the amps out there '''
This thing rocks 🤘🤘🤘
Did you get it? If so, how do u like it? 🤔
I am impressed, too! I Recently listened to many tube mini-heads, including the Marshall anniversary, Peavy, EVH, but honestly, this is much more convincing! What is most important, this comes pretty close to what they actually do in studio, blending different amps, channels etc. Ideally, this amp had some real tubes, but probably the outcome would be the same.
These Yamaha amps are amazingly good. A bargain too.
+adam872 I have the THR10 and I love it! Worth every penny! I'd have a valve amp, but my neighbors would get pretty pissed.
+adam872 no doubt they are quality amps but I think they are 100 to 200$ overpriced
+steve Overpriced compared to what?
Compared to a Blackstar ID100 TVP it's rather pricey, then again, cheap compared to a Kemper
Joerg Baermann Never considered Blackstar and do not know them well - can it do what the thr does at 4:25? If not, a fair comparison would be the price of thr against the price for 2 Blackstars?
Dear Yamaha, please release a rack version of the THR100 Dual with all knobs and switches in front to tweak it easily, as well as more amp models (including all THR models) as well as a pure preamp bypass to only have the amp and you will have a winner!! Even people using Kemper, Axe, Helix, Rack Eleven, etc... will find an interest by using for both clean pure amp, as well as using your preamp modelling. My 2¢
Absolutely agree. In the meantime I've made-up a bracket to hold my THR100HD in a 3RU short ABS Rack Case and it works well. Using a 3RU case gives the head enough airflow to stay cool.
Great playing and video, this amp is definetly worth checking out!!!
Excellent review! 🔥🔥🔥
Yamaha makes some incredible products from their music line, keyboards, PA-live sound, guitars, basses, Home Theater, motorcycles, and more! You name it, they make it and it’s all quality stuff!
I have a Yamaha Motif XF8 that’s just an incredible workstation keyboard. Absolutely glorious sounds and quality too, and also I have some of their top-tier Home Theater products. Again, quality is the point.
I would have one of these if I was still gigging and didn’t own so many big amplifiers already (over 20 amps). They THR’s really are great amps (yes, I have played one). I now run modelers (Fractal AX III, AX8, and Helix floor) in my Home Studio, as they do everything I need at home, they’re fantastic for getting that CRANKED amp sound, even at low-volume, and the sound can be tweaked to get any tone that you’ve ever desired!
This is a really stellar product and I’m sure if your gigging in small clubs this amp would play nicely on stage, or mic’d. Again, if I didn’t have so many amps already I’d have one of these, or two for stereo.
Great review, really! Wish more reviewers were like this guy and do justice by not talking through the whole demo and never really getting around to the product. Well done my man!
Best ✌🏼
Great demo. This thing sounds awesome. Yamaha hit it out the park. I jane the thr10ii but if I were gigging this would be top of the list for a look 👍👍
3:20 That's the tone.
Yeah, that's it!
Love Yamaha amps ... still have my PG1 from the mid-80's running thru a Yamaha 2050 in bridged mono. Also, have a THR10. Will look into this one as well.
I have had mine for a few months.......the best most user amps I have had and that's a few. eg. Marshall..... black star Roland......
Great for his playing, enjoyed the video!
VERY VERY COOL i have some of your Thr series amplifiers and live in Canada find them very interesting and a great demo
Have the 100hd it's great. I love it.
Dear Yamaha, i absolutely love your THR Amps, please consider adding a High Mid and Low Mid Poti like you did on the older Yamaha DG Range (the motorfader Amps and Rack) or a Mid Frequency Sweep Poti.
A Rack Version with the possibility of loading 3rd Party IRs would be great.
You can load irs on this one
I saw this at a local dealer nearby and thought "what's this?" It was fresh out of the box and just sitting there not even plugged in yet. I will have to give it a try.
Finally someone who dares to make a modelling head without tons of effects, pre amp models and cab emulator.
Only thing I would like to se reduced one the THR100H are the channels to one clean channel and be done with it.
No idea why Yamaha discontinued these. These heads sound fantastic.
Because they bought Line 6 which is more recognizable brand in the amp modeling world so they didn’t want those two to compete with each other
I would be interested in seeing some footage of him using this live on the road
Does it require updates to continue to operate like the F-Mustangs?
I love the concept of tube/pre amp/power section modeling instead of "amp" modeling.
Kaleb at MGW no 2yes late the Yamaha 100hf ya great better than kemper and even Helix. Tube amps are still my favorite. Friedman especially.
I would use this dual clean channel in stereo using, my overdrives and my own fx.
im soooooo close to pullin the trigger on one of these..... but to answer Christian about the sound/key fluctuation between his live mike and the amp/room mic..... believe it or not its the time difference between the sound of his vocal utterances to the board via wire/cable and the sound of the amp echoing thru the room until it gets to the mic and then gets sent to the board..... long story short... its the speed of sound... that's literally why it sounds off key.... cuz technically.... it is
You should here it when u have both going at high gain it's great.
So awesome.
Perfect Amp.
Only review I've seen with great tones. I'm sure the amp is capable but not enough care has been taken on other reviews. Maybe the best I've heard a Strat sound in a while as well!
The amp is very nice, and very capable indeed. I also love the look. to me it is very visualy pleasing, and a year after i got mine i am still impressed with its ability and amount of options.
@@Jubjub9000 Nice. I’m looking at a used one this afternoon.
@@theboofin That's great, as far as i know there's only a few for sale at the moment, i was lucky to find one in my country AUS. when i was looking to buy one a Japanese seller wanted to sell one but things were messed up due to the covid shipping situation and i had to decline but it looked like a beauty :) good luck on your guitar "amp" travels.
@@Jubjub9000 I’m in Melbourne. I bought the amp today and had a quick play. Really like what I heard. Lots of rich tonal shades. Very happy.
Hope to get this amp and cab soon.
Can someone please help explain what the power section and class bit does ? Would anyone recommend this for live and practice with the Yamaha can as well?
Anyone know if it would be loud enough in a live band setting? I tried one out and loved it, but I have to be able to keep up sonically with 3 other players.
It keeps up it is 100 watts
I Like it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yamaha NEEDS to make a thr100X or thr50x !! same 10x just more juice!!
I really love the sound of the Yamaha THR10 for classical/nylon-string guitars. Is it possible to achieve a similar sound with the THR100HD?
Always love this video. Can you run his rig set up like through even through the DI Out?
I wold like to know what overdrive pedal you use in this det up..thanks for a real good video.
I have one it sounds great in person. And yes I know what a tube amp sounds like I have too many. Need to sell some. Bogner Helios and Friedman small box. I got rid of my Kemper. Sorry I prefer this better tweaking all day no playing. This is simple and it does sound great. You can't go by utube alone. Plus it takes pedals well. Although, I am not using any of my pedals with it. I only use distortion, fuzz or od anyway.
Jesus that thing rips!!!
This amp sounds great, is there a way to control it via MIDI? That would be perfect if so
The manual says the line outs and phones are stereo, can I pan channel 1 to L and Channel to R of my phones or do they mix in the center only?
I have a question. what If you run 2 guitars AND using the effects loop?. Does it affect both channels or the first one?. Think about one guitar (lead) using modulation effects and the second one (rhythm) not using them. I'd love to know. Thanks!
There are actually two effects loops but the effects loop is set to serial at
factory but can be switched to parallel using the “THR HD_H Utility” application. The SEND/RETURN jacks on the THR100HD are stereo (TRS) with the Tip carrying the L/MONO signal, and the Ring carrying the R signal - So if you set the loop to parallel and use two stereo to dual mono adapters you would have one loop for each amp. if you leave it stock set up it would be one loop shared by both amps.
I dig it. But why hasn't anyone figured out how to put the fx loop Send & Return jacks on the footswitch yet? It uses a data cable after all.
+Wak Job the signal level would be too high for the data cable to handle...remember the "send" signal is at post pre-amp levels, which can be veeeeery high for a data cable to carry through...BUT, i am not an expert in the subject and i could be dead wrong...i do love your idea though! perfect idea to be honest..send yamaha an Email with your idea, maybe they come up with something like that..
Can't do that with pure datacable unless you convert send/return to digital.... but who would want to do that?
You want to have them isolated/shielded, that would be one fat cable going to the footswitch.
Having played both THR 100HD and the THR 10c in a store I am puzzled why Yamaha gimped the THR 100HD by not having any ability for presets on the unit. It is digital and the potential is there for floor controllable presets but they punted. Maybe the DSP chips are so weak in the THR 100HD ( since all they are doing are single amp modeling and a little boost and reverb) that adding memory to this unit would choke it. Also, they really should've put ALL the knobs of the THR 100 on the front of the unit. For the price ( $800 USD) the THR 100 HD is not worth it at this point. The little THR 10c has more options and flexibility even tho it is a practice amp for all practical purposes.
I get the whole idea of "stripped, not equipped" thing of the THR 100 HD so peeps can add their own pedal chain. But this is really a missed opportunity by Yamaha. I can understand only offering 5 basic amp types with swapping out "tubes" and changing "Class A/AB" as opposed to the endless choice of amps on a Fractal AX8, Line 6 Helix, Kemper Profiling Amp. Yes, keeping it simple goes a long way. But this unit for me doesn't even get started. Which is a shame because I like the intent of the unit, not the execution of the idea. Try again, Yamaha.
DrRussPhd I like it. No option paralysis. So easy to get a good sound. No tweaking all day and not playing. Set it up quick and play. It sounds better too imo especially for lead. Could never get my kemper to sound right or feel right for lead so it was sold.
Just curious . . you using a speaker cab, or FRFR, or the Yamaha 2X12 cab and how many pedals do you use? And if you do use FRFR how are the stock IRs ?
DrRussPhd no computer for me due to I'm having neck issues. I'm using a cell right now. So I am using a 1x12 cab but I can plug it into another 1x12 and have 2 cabs going at once if I want or use a 2x12. I just like the sounds and I really get lost in too many options. But I agree with others they should put the 3 pedal option on the fs or the front of the amp. I love distortion pedals but I just use this amp on its own. I'm not using any pedals of my own.
DrRussPhd there's a video somewhere here that does show u all the IRs etc that are inside if u do hook up to a computer.
I hate all those "endless" options amps personally. I just want to plug in, get a sound, get the volume ok and play. I haven't changed the setting on my amp for months. I really don't get why people need to tweak so much, spend more time playing.
CAN SOMEONE please help me out with the correct power and impedance settings for the THR 100 HD.
I am using the dual version with a stereo box that has 2 Greenbacks (25 Watt @ 16 Ohms each).
I don't understand the manual fully regarding what to set for impedance and power settings when using both outputs.
Manual says "you have to calculate the common resistance and power settings". Yeah, very clever!
I would do that if I knew, if the two outputs were parallel or serial or completely independant from another.
So, for two separate speakers , each taking only 25 Watt at 16 Ohms ---> what do I set?
Is it 50 Watt and 8 Ohm due to parallel wiring?
Or is it 25 Watt 16 Ohm because the setting applies to each output?
Plz help! Thx in advance.
Cheers
Phil
Someone could explain how to run a stereo delay in the effects loop, in the yamaha, in this video he has a line 6 , there are 4 cables coming out of it and it goes to the yamaha send and return 2 input ? thanks
I think it uses TRS insert cables.
TOP VIDEO !!!!
If you wanted to take this to a gig and just use the Line Outs - do the speakers require a load to keep from damaging the head or is it OK to turn it on without speakers hooked up?
+Landon Cunningham I've been wondering the exact same thing for some time now. I GUESS it should work, but I'm not sure.
I got a reply from Yamaha and Sweetwater that say it's fine. However I'll warn you that this amp is terrible - don't even bother. It sounds lifeless and doesn't output what it says it does - there is no way. I had it set to 100w and 16ohm into my H&K 2x12 cab and the volume never increased past noon on the dial - and it wasn't very loud at all. Too bad too it was a great idea - I love the dual amp concept.
Great to know that it works.
Oh that's a shame really.. You didn't get the chance to play it through another cab or the XLRs by any chance?
No that's the only cab I had - which sounds great with my Grandmeister 36. I think someone did more research and found it wasn't really outputting the wattage it says - depending on the Ohms of your cab. Not sure if there's truth to that or not but that's what I read in one guys comments on the head @ Sweetwater reviews. You might check that out.
Yeah actually I've read that too somewhere. I don't have too much of an issue that an amp isn't loud enough (it's often the other way around), but of course I want the sound of the amp to be good as well. Will continue my research! Thanks for your help.
I know it doesn't have an aux input to play mp3s, but would plugging in a 1/4" to aux converter and plugging that into channel 2 work?
Dexter Umali it probably would. I can plug my iPhone into the THR10c guitar input and it works fine, if a little strange to be able to add effects to it and run it through a preamp. If you set the input MP3 to the solid channel I'm sure you could get a fairly neutral sound.
What Pacifica is that with two p90s?
it would be great if you could pre program the level bias when running the amps together. clean needs to be loud when by itself but softer when mixed with the overdrive and then the overdrive loud by itself. Say clean 100% channel 1 Dirty 100% channel 2 then dirty 90% and clean 70% in hybrid channel.
if the head is so good... why doesn't he use it? In real life on the road. I love the the THR 10
Hi could you explain how the fxloop was set up for the stereo sound on the delay many thanks
The amp has seperate fx loops for both channels, so he uses his stereo delay effect wired in stereo (left delay signal in the "amp 1 loop" and right delay signal in "amp 2 loop") even though he doesn't use both channels. Hope that explains it.
could you be able to explain this again? There is only a single set of 1/4" effect send / return 's for this amp. Is he using a 1/4" "Y" cable (1) 1/4" send into (2) 1/4" stereo sends - then reverse on the return (2) 1/4" stereo returns into (1) 1/4" return ? I too am trying to figure it out
I'd love to get that sweet ping-pong sound going
cool
This amp seem to come alive with the overdrive pedal and the boost .doze any one no the name of the blue over drive sounds killer . goin'threw a klone boost would really kill it
Can loaded presets & patches be selected with a foot switch?
That depends what you have it set to via its USB capability's, Then swiched on or off via it's footswitch. It does store the latest used "preset" for both of it's amps, even after powering off. i hope that answers your question, i did my best :)
Doze any one no the name of the blue over drive this guy using
i want an old strat so bad
yea, old strats have alot of mojo!
That's how to sell an amp!
Why does the spill over reverb sound as if it's in a different key in his talkmic?
+Christian Heard this as well, no idea of why though.
Good Spot....trying to figure out what that noise is...looks like feedback is eq'ed differently through his talk mic...does he not vocally sound like this in real life?
Cause it's bloody loud when they switch to his voice. You hear the end of the loud amp.
2 Marshall’s at once it’s great. One of many choices. Kemper and Helix ace fx do not sound as good. Sorry. And yes I know what a great amp sounds like. I worked my way up to a smallbox limited by Friedman. Helios. And lunchbox amps.
Am I the only one that trips the eff out that even professional players like him take very high quality half stacks, run through the clean channel and use pedals for their sound? Why even buy the amp head if youre not using the preamp? Or am I missing something?
Did you hear that pedal he's using?
The sad reality is that there's a lot of amazing dirt boxes on the market that rival many amp drive channels. Yep, even tube amps.
Soeren isn't using 2 heads but two Marshall power amps on his stage setup, he just did a replication of that with the Yamaha head.
Not sure how well the Yamaha can handle 4x12 cabs, but if it does well it is a pretty cheap alternative compared to two Marshall 50/50 34EL power amps.
I would go with heads for clean channel only any day, pedal dirt is way more versatile and can even sound better, plus by using a single valve amp's dirt channels your pretty limited.
With the Yamaha heads I would opt in for none dual heads, since the dual is limited to 2x50W when you use a full stack.
Head provides voicing and feel. A hiwatt is an entirely different animal than a vox or marshall, for example
Joerg Baermann Yamaha 100hd is great.
Why no Pacifica instead?
+Oystein Haugen all guitars with the same scale length and pickup config will sound the same through this?
+Oystein Haugen look closer
Sunglasses on top of the head? Sunglasses hat? Sunglasses kitty ears! That's what they are!
Could I get frusciante tones with this
if they are cheap. makes sense for concerts
Still got along way to go .before all these units come any where a real valva come on get real. But hay good video
mm this vs bluguitar amp1,,,im thinking
New yamaha guitar ???
I found incredibly disappointing that Yamaha did not include presets and effects!
eduardo arellano barreto they did if u hook it up to a computer.
yeah but only partial, no delay no chorus no flanger and no phaser or tremolo. :-(
I totally use my thr 10 with the computer, its awesome.
To each their own, but I wouldn't have one if you give it to me.
cleans.are.really not that good on thr10
This is not like the thr line I have one and the 100hd is awesome.
100% different than the TH series, should have kept presets, the same effects etc. this new one is totally different and is not nearly as impressive
1979osos unless u have tried it personally maybe u should hold on to ur opinion.
coffeewaldo I did try it, and i do own a thr10x and wanted an upgrade, i was faced with a totally different amp in every aspect.
some might like the amp, but it has nothing to do with the thr series.
i think if they made a thr 75 and 100 versions, with a foot switch and an emulated direct out, that would be killer.
Wolfsbane I have this too. Love it. Better than the the series.
Sounds ok.... but just doesn't have that natural tube compression. The fx & pedals help this solid state amp But its the unpredictability, and harmonic distortion of a valve amp that gives them a life all their own. Nice try Yamaha! Youre getting closer.
+rone dee Compression??
John Michael .... wamplerpedals.com/the-good-and-bad-of-sag/
www.award-session.com/pdfs/Tube%20Amp%20Compression.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_compression
fenderguru.com/how-fender-amps-work/
Sorry, but this amp does what is says.
have you ever tried it in person?
NuZ Annunziata In all fairness.... no, I haven't listened in person. But, you cannot "simulate" tube saturation. Or, are you saying that this video, and others online aren't a good representation of what this amp actually sounds like? And if that is your point... I would say that rebroadcast and recorded sound is just as important as it is "in person". At least to me it is. My opinion on this amp is just that. I like, and own several Yamaha products, including a VMAX motorcycle! So, my pov isn't a slam at the brand, just this product. They make clean sounding amps. Maybe they should keep doing that.
+rone dee I understand your point.. I'll be trying it on the next month, I'll let you know that too!
The thr 10 series sounds better
Boss Katana > THR.
Can you use both channels through one speaker out?
No good idea
DCT Master yes
RektByMusic Hellberg yrs you can.