The Top 5 Greatest Raid Bosses
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- The Top 5's are back ladies and gentlemen! In this video Mike rates his top 5 raid bosses of all time. Strap in, its time to kill some big baddies.
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As mentioned in the video, part of coming up with this video originally was talking to some of the best raiders around, which prompted the creation of the Legends of WoW series. Here are two episodes we mentioned in the video;
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Making and editing this video was a pleasure, hopefully we can do more cool skits once we can do so in person. Being a robot was fun though 🙂
With the added hairline, it's Preach 'Classic'
Great that you were Robo in chrono trigger and a Robot irl
Preach, I'd KILL for you to continue the "legacy of the (insert name) class" series. Shamans, druids, hunters...please make it happen ^^ !
He’s currently working on one :)
And make it up Cataclysm, not up to WotLK.
legacy of the hunter .... stops at WoD because whatever the hell they made in legion ain't hunter.
@@richardjones8846 I disagree, I love the Legion Survival hunter, IDK why they changed it for BFA, but it is great in BFA and SL too. For the longest time, I didn't like Survival hunter.
@@richardjones8846 hunters stopped being the amazing class they were when MOP ended for me, since mop was the pinnacle of gameplay for most classes, and wod destroyed them all
The first time I ever tanked was Illidan. My then-boyfriend was at work, I was leveling my BE Priest, and I got a message from his raid leader asking if he was home yet because they needed his Prot Paladin for Illidan's fire elementals. I had my own Prot Paladin that I played a lot, tanked heroic dungeons with often, was very aware of what the buttons did and was really comfortable with the spec. I replied that no, he wasn't home yet, but I had my own Prot Paladin. I'd watched my now-Hubby tank this phase a hundred times, and felt comfortable in taking his place, even though I hadn't gone into BT on my own. I logged onto Hubby's Paladin and helped his guild with their learning wipes until he got home, when he took over. The next day, they went on to get the Server First Illidan kill. In Wrath, I applied to the same guild on my Shadow Priest, went through their application and trial processes and eventually won my own raiding spot in my own right. To this day, I'm still friends with the people in that guild that are still playing.
“The ranged guys finish and I feel them come -“ - Preach 2021.
What animal draws a "9" like that
I do lol, my teacher were dumbfounded that i started all my numbers from the bottom
Thank God somebody said it 😂
@@adamn2993 His 9 started at the top though, not bottom. It was like a checkmark and 9 combined.
Many people draw it like that. I think in Japan everybody does it like this, for example.
i really missed these old, more edited videos from the 2013 days, i hope to see more of them, i don't mind waiting
One of the crazy things about Illidan is how high quality his model was for TBC, he almost felt out of place with his room because his models graphical fidelity was so high.
When the final boss has more pixel then the entire raid
4 out of 5 bosses were under Kevin Jordan’s tenure - let that sink in
He wasn't a raid encounter designer though, he may have had input if anyone asked him but he's been pretty clear that raids weren't his baby.
@@Babaganoosh69 class design is a huge part of how a raid plays.
The way he describes Kael is the embodiment of an epic battle against a big bad sounds amazing, makes me sad I didn't raid at the time.
I had the luck to complete TBC when the stuff was legit and its hard to disagree with preach statement with Kael, i personally found all end bosses epic in their own way(probably because what you had to do before you could even see them). Can't do a whole list and not sure about order but my favorites are Kael, Illidan and Firefighter. As a melee Firefighter was hands down most fun fight i did in my whole WoW career, Kael was simply epic fight and Illidan was the whole reason i picked up WoW back in 2007 and i actually shed a tear when we killed it first time, mainly due how hard and painful it was to reach that point, so much guild drama on the way almost killing whole guild and all the sleepless nights when i farmed primal shadows for whole roster just so we could progress BT(i was teen with unlimited time back then and others were adults with irl things). All in all this is still my best time in the gaming i ever had and it sucks to know i wont get that feeling ever again as games have changed a lot since then thanks to massive amount of information you can find from internet nowadays.
Sadly there is only few low quality vids from TBC era(hydross, maggy)but i still watch our firefighter vid like at least once a year.
Getting the Hand of A'dal title is still my most prized WoW memory.
Sadly as a guild we lost a lot of good players after its completion because it took so much out of us. We still completed Black Temple before the big nerf though which was satisfying in its own way as well. TBC is still the pinacle of my WoW raiding.
The way Preach talks about transitioning correctly or dying in newer boss fights is exactly how I feel about how Blizz did healing. Everything is homogenized and healing has become 'use your big raid CD at these specific times or you die'. They aren't decisions anymore, they are click correctly or lose.
Same goes for pvp.
Id prefer that to the old style of healing where its "cast until its almost done, if hp full jump repeat x999 until boss dead
Not to mention the fact that youre actually just wrong theres tons of decision making around healing cds but the nature of them makes it to that its much preferred to pre plan them lest 2 overlap and get wasted
@@OATMEALDOOM there's more raid utility and options in the tbc resto shaman alone than like 4 heal specs in retail combined. what are you talking about?
I had to click off full screen and double check the upload date. Felt like I was in 2012 again. Bloody good video!
Just listening to how passionate Preach is as he talks about Kael'thas. Love videos like these, don't even care if it's a burnt out topic really, I just like hearing Preach talk about/rank old content.
Maybe because MoP was my favorite xpac but Mythic Garrosh in Siege of Orgimar was incredible. I was so emotionally invested in the story that it made the culmination of the journey to get there incredibly
Siege of orgimar was a great raid all together. But seeing what Garrosh would do if you lost was such a fun twist. It added so much intensity.
@@edbrooke75 I tanked this fight on my Brewmaster, back before they destroyed the spec. Other than solo soaking Malkorok while tanking , I can't remember a more fun fight to tank. There's always something to do.
Garrosh was amazing, SOO was the first time I started raiding properly and MoP was one of my favourite expacs too but man its gotta be one of the best boss fights ever
SoO was a really good raid but it being out for so long I feel like really hurt how it's remembered. I was in university during MoP so I couldn't commit to a concrete raid schedule but I remember trying to raid when I could and being very discouraged since the overall player morale took another of it's first big hits so hearing people annoyed that there still wasn't any new content really drained them.
Mythic Garrosh was AMAZING! the cutscene at the end with all the leaders impaled on stormwind... wow... I loved Siege so much, but that really took the cake at the end.
I still rock my Hand of Adal title to this day because of how much i am proud of my Vashj and Kael kills
"Kaelthas so much personal responsibility" (shows him playing in first person mode)
I think this list is made out of purely individual experiences and/or nostalgia aspects and I dont mind it. Everyone has different memories and moments that they cannot forget on different bosses.
I mean he mentions it several times how he bases those ranks. so yes
Yeah it is fine. Though it would be more interesting to me to actually talk about bosses as encounters. What makes them great or bad, what could and could not work today, why does fight abc work well and why doesn't the somewhat similar fight xyz?
This would a great topic in my opinion. This video is fine, but it is basically just answering the question: "During which expansions was Preach able to play 24/7 without having to worry about anything?"
A bit more of an objective and analytical point of view would be great.
@@ralfrudi3963 its fine but title is misleading
For me it's still Arthas and the entire citadel before him. It was an incredible feeling to even just get there and see him with my own eyes. Such cool memories, no game have ever since made me feel anything quite like it.
Every time you'd seen Arthas before that was with your own eyes.
You forgot to include the hidden "Nostalgia" counter which was always set to 100 points.
Or the game was just better back then
@@misi111 we've done classic now game wasn't better get over yourself
@@dah0heavy then why does it have more players than the newest dogshit exp Shadowlands 😭
@@misi111 It literally doesnt. Anything is possible when you lie.
@@misi111 another classic andy literally spouting shit, how about you regal us with how classic is the hardest game ever made, those 3 hour world firsts for nax really were the epitome of raiding weren't they?
Such perfect timing for the description of pressure that was on each member of the raid in order to defeat Kael at 25:03
And then a shammy standing absolutely still for 5 whole seconds :D
Oh my god the memories of watching your Top 5's back in 2012, good god you nailed everything down to the music!
This was my favorite video you've made in awhile. Had a shit day at work and was so happy to see this in my sub feed.
"you know, I think he was better without legs" lmao im dying
muruuu was a naruuuu lol i loved that
I'm really sad Mike missed out on ToT, Lei Shen really was an amazing fight and would have probably been on this list had he been raiding at the time.
it wouldnt have, he left out a lot of other bosses that outshines blast furnance in most players minds/lists
@@Freestyle80 It's almost as if this list wasn't based on what most players think, and was about what Preach personally thinks the best bosses were.
@@corvos110 no this list of Preach’s personal EXPERIENCE with the bosses otherwise there’s no way he’d put freaking Kaelthas, a boss where you have to get past a mind numbingly boring 7 min phase 1 each time, as number 1 fight ever. Best means best overall not just best in a particular phase
@@Freestyle80 Irrelevant to his reply
@@Freestyle80 ??????
This feels very old school preach. I love it so much!
It's so sad that Preach didn't raid in Mists of Pandaria, there were some truly great bosses there that i believe he would have included if he had done them when they were current content.
He wouldn't have. They were past WotLK and weren't boring trash fights. You're right about Mists having great bosses. He just wouldn't have picked them. Awful list.
It’s funny, I didn’t raid during TBC because of how wiped out I was being Nax raider in classic. My list would be all newer bosses. Guldan was one of my favorite fights of all time
Wow this feels so vintage, amazing. I love this style, and not just the top 5 bit
Btw Preach. You aren't the only one who really loved the Blast Furnace. In Division 2, in one of the raids, we made a boss that's thematically inspired by it.
I'm terrified of how Mike writes 9
So glad u shouted out Blackhand... I hate to say it but it was even fun on LFR. Blast furnace tho... that was the fight that made me want to learn. Great list Preach but love the elaborating even more!
The Legacy of the M'uru Shade continues. Lol love it
I would love to see preach do a re-upload of his Kaelthas fight with current commentary, that would be awesome to watch!
Whiteboard segment reminded me of old Top Gear. Preach is the Jeremy Clarkson of WoW.
Preacher.. i recently wrote my bachelor thesis about parasocial relationships to twitch streamers, youtubers and the communities forming around those individuals. Tbh my driving factor was my connectedness to this group of people and you as a content creator. It came out as a pretty good thesis and i passed of course. I just want to thank you for your content that really is an everday driving factor for me. Keep up the great work and be aware that there are people out there who really really appreciate it
1) CHESS EVENT! The only boss that has kept its dificulty throughout ALL expansions!
I really liked Karazhan's Opera Event. Not knowing which boss would pop up was great! Not to mention the view of the "audience" on the other lower side, was really great and memorable for me.
It's funny how my 2 favorite expansions I was such a pleb that I didn't really kill any of the endbosses but they're still super nostalgic for many other reasons. The 2 coolest raid bosses I can think of right now are probably Denathrius and Staur Augur, I love how the whole room goes black when Denathrius casts massacre and entering the mirrors to teleport around in the room. It's pretty much the same for Staur Augur where the whole room changes and it feels like you're fighting in space. I'm really looking forward to TBC / Wrath Classic to be able to experience some of those cool fights for the first time.
I hated Star Augur on my prot warrior because shield block was so useless on that fight. But I did love how the room changed as you went into the different phases. Got a screenshot of the void planet overlooking Surumar from a specific spot where the backdrop for Star Augur clashes with the backdrop of the raid. You get to the spot by slow falling down from Gul'dans area after you defeat him.
Can’t work out if Preach saying ‘nothing could’ve prepared me for what the fight involved’ about Illidan was a deliberate pun or not lol
9:18 Got goosebumps when i finally heard the Ulduar OST, so many memories
Love the production value as always, a pleasurable viewing experience all around.
This gave me old school preach videos vibe. I loved it
People seem to forget that context is incredibly important when compiling a list like this and you did an incredible job laying it all out, Mike.
Preach, I just love to hear you reminisce about world of warcraft. I still play, mainly out of obligation to the story, but I agree much was lost over the years. I found I am happier nowadays just being a casual player and accepting that I can't do what blizzards wants me to be do in order to be a cutting edge raider.
But either way, I hope blizzard can bring you back one day. I hope your nostalgia can bring you back. And I hope lich king classic can bring you back. Because I'd love for you to love this game again.
Regardless, I hope you continue to make videos about your favorite parts of wow
Super watchable and enjoyable, its fun to see peoples fond memories of the eras I was off not playing WOW.
Before watching I have to Guess Gul Dan, Lich king, Illidan, Blast furnace and Kael will be there.
I wad calling Kael, Illidan and maaybe blast furnace heh
Welp haha
Fk Blast Furnance
Our experience of Kael'Thas was tarnished somewhat by server leaderboard drama.
There was a patch that released that lifted attunement requirements for Hyjal and BT, at the time we were the next guild in line to down Kael and in progression of the fight before the drop. We took the path of least resistance and went to Hyjal and BT early for the better loot and easier initial boss fights rather than "do the honourable thing" and carry on as if attunement was still a requirement and the level of hatred and vitriol we got for it was immense.
The kicker is that it wasn't even from the highest guilds on the server either, they were basically like "all you assholes are doing this shit post nerf anyway so it doesn't matter" and "we'll see how you do with Bloodboil and Gorefiend" but its from people who left our guild and from the guilds who were only slightly ahead of us that took issue. Now the latter was just their place on the leaderboard feeling threatened really, nothing more, but the former was complete bullshit, these were people getting all sanctimonious about it when they got their experience of it on a farming run and with that in mind I made the point "if you deserve to be in BT, then I do too" I figured I could bum my way onto a farming run just as easily as any of those sanctimonious assholes as I was easily as competent as them, but I was loyal to the guild and helping with progression, as it should be.
Either way, yeah it was petty bullshit and we did eventually down him in proper progression, we got a few BT and Hyjal bosses down first but it didn't really make much of a difference. It was a great fight and probably would top my list too.
LOVE these type of videos from you; thoroughly enjoyed watching your best/worst raid videos as well
Fantastic to see, and looking forward to more top 5's from you :)
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
As I sit here sipping out of my AM/PM Illidan Cup XD, I have to say that I loved the reveal for Illidan in this video. Arthas, by far, is my favorite for the tower boss solely for fun, mechanics, theme, and nostalgia.
However, I understand Illidan over Arthas. It’s like comparing the Battle of Helms Deep to the Battle of Pelennor Fields from LOTR. Both are marvelous successes, but the former was the Origional, and the first one to truly hit every note just right.
I never played these bosses in their Day, but I watch these videos to try and compare my experiences in this game to those of the pro players who ran it in their day. Honestly, as sacrileges as it may be In The WoW community, I’ve still never even ran nor soloed Tempest Keep or Molten Core. I will one of these days, but I’ve watched people run it and talk about the fights. This is why I watch this kind of content. These ranked videos and reflections, analysis videos, and so on. I absolutely love listening to how players remember these experiences, it’s so cool to hear.
Thank you Preach for your content.
So... Legacy of the Death Knight? :D
Replace blast furnace with Blackhand and I completely agree.
Honourable mentions: Gul'Dan, Archimonde, Kill'Jaeden, Cata Ragnaros, Jaina, Mar'Gok, Prince Malchezaar, Lei Shen, Cata Nef, Al'Akir and Blast Furnace.
I am commenting to support the channel. Good content my man
Totally agree on Kael'thas, it's my favorite too. Not just because it was a great boss because of the circumstances at the time. It wasn't where our progress ended but it was the peak of my tbc guild.
This is the best video you’ve done in months, if not years. Very good.
Agree with Blast Furnace. Loved BRF so fuckin' much, when my guild was done with our run, I'd immediately look for a Heroic PUG to run it again, even if the only loot I could get would be from my bonus roll coins. It was the only raid that for me wasn't about the loot, it was about the gameplay and having fun.
Bro, i totally agree with your list and 4/5 of those listed are 4/5 of my favorite bosses too, especially Illidan and Kael'thas. Such fond memories of that. I used to organize weekly pugs between two BT guilds with mutual friendships to run the TK attunement and hunt the phoenix mount
The music and skit is giving “legacy vibes” 10/10 preach content
Arthas was a better and more memorable fight than Illidan. No question.
It's always interesting how your own guild can make or break raids and bosses for you. I was in a terrible, toxic place for Mythic WoD raiding and it tainted what could have otherwise been such great memories.
Nice! I was sooo ready before you revealed your nr 1 Spot to reject your choice and post "KaelThas is best" :D Happy I can agree with you. This boss was amazing!
The way Mike writes number 9 is pure heresy. I didn't even know one could write it that way
More videos like this! i love the old theme and everything! miss this music
Thank you for this trip down memory lane.
Blast Furnace? For real? That fight was a straight up M'uru. Hard, mechanically complex, well themed, absolutely 0 fun on prog or reclears.
Ya dun goofed, Preach!
Damn good list. Well, minus Blast Furnace. At least I can respect the pick after you explained it.
I love these videos. Your thoughts on raiding is so interesting to a casual like me.
im all out of love, im so lost without you
List couldn't obviously include a lot of bosses, but anyone he mentioned in the vid is in the 'short-list' in my book. And I wanna add Garrosh, Lei Shen and Jaina to this short-list
the way you describe blast furnace is how I feel about azshara. I only play heroic, as im narcoleptic and mythic would just be way too much commitment- and azshara heroic was wonderful for me. I played it as a disc priest and as a rogue, and DH- so I always had something to do- stuns, cc, console. I loved that fight so much
I moved from one guild into a raiding guild and on the first raid night we were up against sun strider, I got a quick run down and then we went to it... I was amazed at that fight in it's entirety from where they placed those adds to the air phoase of the boss, really good.. that and lady Vashj were my first proper raid guild kills and I felt awesome after I'd done them :)
I fucking love that background jingle during your skits. It's so damn iconic at this point.
As someone who didn't raid in Vanilla but cleared everything in Classic the KT story was still spot on for me at least. 15 years later.
Most of these bosses come from an expac that you don’t want to replay in tbc I think this might be a bit of just fond memories... also who writes a 9 like that
As someone that has been playing both private servers (vanilla and TBC) and has been raiding in classic since week 1 molten core up to now in Sunwell Plateau i gotta say...i bet that original Illidan must have been something else...
We have never even seen the "kneeling/demon phase" go through...we've always just burned him through that phase, so we never had to witness warlocks tanking him, or the storm of fire coming down from above... kinda bums me down
I 100% agree with Kaelthas being in the first place tho.. that is the one fight, above all, that always made me feel, more than all the others, like we were actually cooperating and helping each other to achieve a goal, instead of being 25 individuals each thinking about his-her own DPS or HPS output
Amazing content as always. Cheers from Holland!
Love these videos allows you guys to be super creative.
OMG WHERE IS THE MUSIC AT 3:00
it really needed that classic oldschool preach jingle that i know is from somewhere else but cant for the life of me remember
OH NO YOU DIDNT ACTUALLY JUST PUT THE JINGLE AT THE VERY END OF THE VIDEO I SWEAR TO GOD AARRGH FUUUUUMIIIING
you knew, you bastard, you absolutely knew xD
This video makes me want TBC classic so much more, I started in TBC but I was way too young to understand the concept of raiding. I just played for fun. But now i'll finally get to experience the proper endgame with my classic guild and it's going to be such a wonderful experience killing Illidan and Kael'thas for the first time. I can completely understand why you don't want to replay it, those memories are so precious and you'll remember for it for the rest of your life!
Just try to avoid all kind of modern meta bs and simply enjoy the ride, sure you might want to get classes like encha shamans for your melee or SP's for caster/healer group but outside of that just have fun with it and try not to focus too much on minmaxing.
@@Winland88 way ahead of ya, i'm planning on playing Enhance myself and my guild is quite fun to play with. Most we did for min-maxing was getting world buffs every week. Which honestly just feels better for your overall performance anyway
@@SuperTheTman Nice to hear.
@@Winland88 it just sucks all the fun out of the game if you try to look for every tiny bit of performance in most scenarios. If we're struggling on progression, sure we'll try it. But if we can get by with having fun and knowing what we gotta do, that's what it's all about.
Thanks Preach, I needed this
Finally some Preach music :D take my upvote.
My favourite fights i can best describe as a 'Symphonic encounters'
Everyone is doing their individual part and yet all working together towards the same goal.
Different phases of an encounter allowing certain classes, specs or simply players to apply themselves to the encounter in a way that emphasises their skill or execution.
My favourite encounters have been (other than those already listed) Felmyst, Sarth3d, Freya, Deaths Demise, Lich King, Chogall, Sinestra, Nefarian v2.
wild, last night I was just watching your "worst mmo bosses" video from like 2012, was wondering when you'd do another video like that haha
Also I love that Kael'Thas is in both videos. That bastard.
I like hearing the old music :)
I like bosses where you as a DPS feel that you REALLY get to let loose, especially when you have to plan the fight out beforehand to blast BIG numbers.
I hate bosses when you need to hold back due to mechanics, such as mistress in ToS, I also hate target dummy bossfights and swarm-style add fights where your DPS doesn't even help the raid much. In short, I love fights that makes your DPS capabilities truly matter by heavily reducing fight length or reducing the amount of damage the raid takes from adds.
Examples of fights I really love:
Going inside on Kilrogg deadeye
Xul'Horac speed kill strats
Archimonde, blasting on the ring opener getting as much cleave down as possible - Heroic archi boost runs were actually fun to just join for nothing more than to dps log and race.
4th boss in Nighthold with the elementals on mythic, MASSIVE cleave every 2 minutes.
MOTHER speedkill starts
G'huun, cleaving as much damage as possible on both p1 adds and p2 adds while interlacing as much burn as possible during nuke phases
This was so scientific. 10/10 list can be no debate. Science is settled. Trust the science. Dr. Preach has spoken.
Please give a raise to the editors/graphic teams for your illidian look 100% awesome
How you not gonna put mythic Mannaroth on here? That fight was fucking legendary.
Draenor really was raider's paradise
Archimonde, Blackhand or even Mar'gok, not even a mention...he just slightly mentinoed Blackhand cuz he picked freaking Blast Furnance from that raid lol
As a tank, I hated mannaroth. Archimonde is one of my favorites of all time though
@@D1LWEED both were great fights Mannaroth just felt more epic fighting on top of HFC.
Archimonde was really only good the last phase in the nether.
Man. I'm so happy @TheChunkeyNinja joined Mike's team but holy cow, batman, this made me miss the good old days with Andy. Happy we still get to have some of that old humor and "type of vid" anyway
Great video but you know the real reason we're all here is to compliment those luscious locks!
I loved the Blast Furnace, as long as I was with competent raiders. Doing it with people expecting the better raiders to carry them however, made it a complete nightmare. It almost killed our guild.
One of the few vid preech has made in the last few years that i totally loved. Positivity always wins over moaning. Its a real masterpiece of content.
Great work Mike and Chunkeyninja!
where is ghost?
the music is back!!! love these top 5s
He was right, people do love it!
Wow used to do this more often, but it a little odd seeing enemies incredibly large, like Kael just because they’re the enemy
That's the first time I've heard someone call Firefighter "fun". Usually you just do it once for the achievement, maybe a few items and then never again.
Do more Legacy videos please, they are so entertainment
13:43 Does the bridge appearing in Firelands count as well? Technically there's a boss between the bridge appearing and Ragnaros, but it still felt quite cool to me.
This is a very very good list
Damn Mike, didn't expect you to love KJ as much as I did. Agreed, greatest boss ever