@@TheCrabError the results are pretty much useless, they show only that the interviewed party was anxious, or nervous, but still, its useful as an interrogation enhancer of sorts, guilty people are more like to go along with detectives so they dont seem suspicious, so they take a lie detector test, and it rattles them into a confession
Why would the police expect to find any bullet casings at the scene when the gun involved was a revolver? Revolvers don't eject casings when fired. That is only a deliberate action of whomever might be handling the gun. What made the police think the gun had been fired at all, unless there was a spent casing left inside the revolvers' cylinder? Who or what was supposedly shot?
Were the letters not saved? Surely someone can go over a variety of them with handwriting analysis. It can’t be difficult to tell if one or several people wrote them.
There are far, far better recountings of this mystery. 🙄 Like this is not well-done. Anywho, it seems to me that a lot of the early letters were thrown, and that handwriting analysis and other forensic testing had been done at the time.
Wow, nicely done. A lot to unpack I’ll prob have to watch it again. I haven’t heard of all of the details you had in video despite being familiar with this case.
This has always been one of my favorites. Nothing like small town gossip and scandal. “Bad Things” nails it again with its “what most likely happened.” It was definitely Karen Freshour who framed poor Paul. While it could very well have been the son William Massey who started the letters, I don’t rule out Karen Freshour either. She was a vile and vindictive woman as was the tone of many of the letters. I totally agree with the criminal profiler who stated the letters were most likely written by a woman.
What if the "we" the letters referred to are Gordon Massie's wife & son? I've seen this story many times, told by many different people and I've not seen much mention of Gordon's wife. Sounds as though she could fit the profile of the letter writer. Idk, just tossing it out there but I've always been curious to know more about her--hell hath no fury, afterall....
John Laurdinarts covered this case on his "Brainscratch" podcast a several years ago and I watched it and must say is one of the most interesting mysteries on record, because they never caught who wrote the letters or how Mary's husband was killed...not to satisfactory at least. But one thing for sure, whoever wrote these letters were really scorn and hurt over Mary Gilespie.
Here is the thing... if it were Paul then wow is there a LOT of evidence incriminating him. And the fact that there were no fingerprints on the box strikes me as odd... if Paul were careful enough to wipe his fingerprints then I'd assume he'd also have been smart enough not to use his own gun in a box that directly incriminated him. So that indicates to me that this wasn't him.
@@Trev-jz6yw Agreed but... I mean, I like reading Agatha Christie. And if I read a book by her that had this many points of evidence pointing directly at one character then that is the exact character I'd know for certain did not do it.
The wife and lover killed the husband and the box with the gun was fake one version of the box story is she took it in the house I think the author of the rumours was someone in power like a judge or priest or police or someone in the school
This AI voice sits in the uncanny valley of voices.... It almost sounds like a real person, but something is off, the tone, pitch, cadence etc just all don't quite feel how a real persom would talk/narrate
Mary Gillespie wrote all the letters; she was using the ploy which Eric Berne in his book 'Games People Play' called 'Let's You and Him Fight' - in other words she wanted conflict for the sake of conflict, with the bonus of non-existent victimhood. Of course, sending letters to yourself is a common but dumb way of shifting suspicion away from you.
This was not well-written, with lots of artistic license taken. It comes across as a bad melodrama than an already gripping, unsolved mystery. And is the narration AI?
Aren't polygraphs bullsh*t?
Yes.
Yes. Completely fake.
they aren’t completely fake, but they are extremely subjective so they can’t be used in courts here in the US.
Not if u are Maury....
@@TheCrabError the results are pretty much useless, they show only that the interviewed party was anxious, or nervous, but still, its useful as an interrogation enhancer of sorts, guilty people are more like to go along with detectives so they dont seem suspicious, so they take a lie detector test, and it rattles them into a confession
This whole thing is too confusing to make sense of. So many loose ends, so many questions.
I live in the area and it’s always been confusing to me as well.
Why would the police expect to find any bullet casings at the scene when the gun involved was a revolver? Revolvers don't eject casings when fired. That is only a deliberate action of whomever might be handling the gun. What made the police think the gun had been fired at all, unless there was a spent casing left inside the revolvers' cylinder? Who or what was supposedly shot?
I assume they meant no spent carriages were found. I dont think the narrator knows anything about guns.
Aye eye narration
This is another problem that makes the case so confusing. The cops were somehow involved. Probably not DIRECTLY, but in some indirect way.
Were the letters not saved? Surely someone can go over a variety of them with handwriting analysis. It can’t be difficult to tell if one or several people wrote them.
Touch DNA could be present also.
There are far, far better recountings of this mystery. 🙄 Like this is not well-done.
Anywho, it seems to me that a lot of the early letters were thrown, and that handwriting analysis and other forensic testing had been done at the time.
There was a Netflix show on this, a current handwriting analyst looked at the letters and believes 100% that it was Paul, for what it’s worth.
Not a single fingerprint was ever found on the letters?
was asking for this one 🤘
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Wow, nicely done. A lot to unpack I’ll prob have to watch it again. I haven’t heard of all of the details you had in video despite being familiar with this case.
This has always been one of my favorites. Nothing like small town gossip and scandal. “Bad Things” nails it again with its “what most likely happened.” It was definitely Karen Freshour who framed poor Paul. While it could very well have been the son William Massey who started the letters, I don’t rule out Karen Freshour either. She was a vile and vindictive woman as was the tone of many of the letters. I totally agree with the criminal profiler who stated the letters were most likely written by a woman.
What if the "we" the letters referred to are Gordon Massie's wife & son? I've seen this story many times, told by many different people and I've not seen much mention of Gordon's wife. Sounds as though she could fit the profile of the letter writer. Idk, just tossing it out there but I've always been curious to know more about her--hell hath no fury, afterall....
Damn good point!
John Laurdinarts covered this case on his "Brainscratch" podcast a several years ago and I watched it and must say is one of the most interesting mysteries on record, because they never caught who wrote the letters or how Mary's husband was killed...not to satisfactory at least. But one thing for sure, whoever wrote these letters were really scorn and hurt over Mary Gilespie.
Great video. Reasonable conclusion also.
You state paul dies in 2012 then show his grave marker stating he died In 1997.
Said with the attention-to-detail beheld by a true-crime connoisseur.
He was also charged with operating an unlicensed Time Machine.
Some details were changed for dramatic effect. That is common practice in journalism.
@@williamharris8367lol, um, no it’s not. when that is done for legal purposes, it should be noted that this is the case.
The two letters have 2 different signature I would believe it involves 2 people
This goddamn A.i voice
Sits in the Uncanny valley of voices... It just feels off
Broadcast on CBs, not “CBS”-CB is Citizens Band radio, which was popular in the 70s but not used much after.
Cb usage was popular into the late 80s,early 90s.
That's a lot of skeletons for so few closets.
Well with that kind of handwriting I wouldn't be too worried about the person. Their handwriting tells me they are inept.
Here is the thing... if it were Paul then wow is there a LOT of evidence incriminating him. And the fact that there were no fingerprints on the box strikes me as odd... if Paul were careful enough to wipe his fingerprints then I'd assume he'd also have been smart enough not to use his own gun in a box that directly incriminated him. So that indicates to me that this wasn't him.
I agree, if someone stole his gun tho why wipe the serial number off the gun? And who knew he had the weapon and where it was kept.
@@Trev-jz6yw Agreed but... I mean, I like reading Agatha Christie. And if I read a book by her that had this many points of evidence pointing directly at one character then that is the exact character I'd know for certain did not do it.
The wife and lover killed the husband and the box with the gun was fake one version of the box story is she took it in the house I think the author of the rumours was someone in power like a judge or priest or police or someone in the school
The police handled it in a rather strange manner. Leading to nothing but MORE confusion.
There is ALWAYS a better word choice than "moreover"
Warning- this is aye eye slop
Did the police actually investigate David Longberry? Very negligent if they didnt
This AI voice sits in the uncanny valley of voices.... It almost sounds like a real person, but something is off, the tone, pitch, cadence etc just all don't quite feel how a real persom would talk/narrate
Figures there'd be a Karen involved, smh.
What's a Karen?
😂
@sabrinashelton1997 welcome to the internets
@@RuminatingWizard Oh is it "internets" now? This world just keep on changing. First moving pictures and now this?
Maybe it was Karen
Seems like a law enforcement employee or private detective.
Jon b.Ramsy letter are similar.
I need a video about debroah wolfs murder
Multiple writers
Mary Gillespie wrote all the letters; she was using the ploy which Eric Berne in his book 'Games People Play' called 'Let's You and Him Fight' - in other words she wanted conflict for the sake of conflict, with the bonus of non-existent victimhood. Of course, sending letters to yourself is a common but dumb way of shifting suspicion away from you.
Mary Gillespie wrote them. How is this so hard for everyone?
Please, no more AI voices, please.
David is not a robot, sorry to disappoint you :)
Voice is terrible!! SMDH 💯
Could this be the zodiac killer!!
Coulda been the CIA, using it as an excuse to tap phones
This was not well-written, with lots of artistic license taken. It comes across as a bad melodrama than an already gripping, unsolved mystery. And is the narration AI?
You can smuggle drugs in and out of prison. You can easily smuggle letters.
Paul had no access to pen and paper in prison
Why would someone smuggle drugs _out_ of prison? Presumably they would have been smuggled into the facility originally...
He died in 2012 but his tombstone says 1997?????? Which is it then??????? SMDH 💯😮
Heh heh heh. Longberry.
i don't know if anyone will get the reference but it seems like whoever wrote them was the original A
I get it 😂
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The “victims” wrote them. Just like The Watcher.
In the watcher case,for some reason I'd never thought of that.That said,they ended up losing money on that house.
Paul looks identical to that comedian that allegedly murdered his wife, Paddy Osgrove or whatever. Coincidence? I think not...
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I really prefer American stories be told by someone without a British or other accent. So I won't be listening.
Hell nah you tweakin for this
Strange flex 💪😂 why even comment. Bye
No fuckin way 😂😂😂
Amazing mental gymnast
Unless the narrator shares the same pronouns of the occupants of the story , I shant be listening