Maidenhead aquatics in south East of England have had a wild yellow tang for sale since the ban with a price tag of 350£. It be interesting to see what the price drop would be from ridiculous levels to more affordable?
@@ReefManiacs yup, 350£ and still there. Poor thing as been confined in quite a small holding tank for such a long time and it's not a small one either.
Sad. I joked about our resident yellow that I would sell it at R15000 I think that about £750 but that's just because it was not for sale and if someone actually offered me that I would think about it but he is our pet and I love him to bits.
Hooray!!! Yellow tangs are gonna be back!!! I already have its close relatives the Half Black Mimic and the Scopas so Im just waiting for yellow tangs now.
I got my yellow tang back in 2013 he's doing fantastic I'm glad I bought mine when I did 40 bucks one day I went into the pet store to buy some food and when I seen the price for $380 I asked the guy what the hell is going on is that a typo at that time I didn't know there was a ban on collecting yellow tangs I could not believe my eyes then they went up to 500 hopefully this will lower prices for people looking for yellow tanks
People need to bite the bullet and stop paying these insane prices. Hold off on getting a yellow tang, it's a $40.00 fish! Why would you ever pay $200 or more? Customers who are buying these are the cause of the problem! Stop buying and it will force the suppliers to lower their prices.
I hope Biota will work with the glofish company to produce a red, blue, purple, green, pink glowing fluorescent Tang fish. I am tired of the yellow color.
For me there can be a wild caught ban on any marine fish that can be tank bred if I'm honest. Yes they are more expensive, but also give you a better conscience, are more hardy and don't give our hobby a bad reputation.
Unfortunately even if there were only captive bread this industry will still been given a bad name to be honest. It is because of this hobby we have come so far in the research and technology in reef keeping.
I 100% concur. BIOTA's Hawaii facility has been breeding Yellow Tangs in captivity for the pet industry for years. Not only are those practices more sustainable, it most importantly produces fish that have a substantially better survival rate in the hobby. Stop raping nature, start thinking about life on earth!!!
I live in Hawaii and the fish have nowhere near recovered, this is just going finish destroying Hawaii's reefs. Which means that you won't be able to sustain the export of these fish and you will only be able to purchase them for a few years before the population crashes again. They didn't lift the ban because the fish habitat and numbers have recovered, but because politicians are trying to get elected. Just like a lot of people died in America from the pandemic because they prioritized the economy not the people. If they listened to the locals they wouldn't be lifting the ban. But they are going to listen to the money, and just like California wouldn't listen to the First Nation about controlled burns of the forest, it is going to lead to disaster. But they never learn. By 2030 Hawaii's waters will look like the Dead Sea and seeing as Hawaii's tourism is supported by its waters that's going to go away too. Stupid humans.
I do understand your feeling towards this, but Hawaii is one of the best researched and controlled marine ornamental fish collection facilities in the industry. I only hope that with the new restrictions on the species that they can collect dropping from 40 to 8 and the further drop in the annual bag limits that it wont have a negative impact on the reefs in Hawaii. It needs to be done sustainably or they will have to close it again.
@@ReefManiacs I'm one of the many researchers who do the studies in this area and we all stood against this action. but the industry bought the politicians' pockets. The collection industry starts their records deliberately in the nineties after there had been over collection for thirty years and states that the fish are back to their "normal " numbers. Which is like starting in 2022 and saying the normal numbers of Northern White Rhinos is two, because that's how many there are in 2022. You can't use a random point in time as your start point especially if records show that at that point the primary point in damage had already been done. We do have university records back to 1939 that prove that the damage has been recorded since the 1960s, and these are ornamental fish, not fish people are eating. Many of the numbers are recordings of fishes who names have the Hawaiian word "Kapu" in them, it means "forbidden" . Under Hawaiian law you would be killed for harming that fish. A lot of the information you are getting is coming direct to you from your industry. That's like watching only FOX news. They are only going to tell you what's good for them. they don't care about the long run it is all about money now. What they have purposed isn't sustainable at this time, so soon, yellow tangs will only be from Biota and they will be able to charge a million dollars for one. pushing the extinction of fish in the wild, plays to the benifit of the labs that breed them.
Everything is very over priced for sure. But it will be interesting to see how price are affected
Maidenhead aquatics in south East of England have had a wild yellow tang for sale since the ban with a price tag of 350£. It be interesting to see what the price drop would be from ridiculous levels to more affordable?
So they have had it since then at £350 and it's still there?
@@ReefManiacs yup, 350£ and still there. Poor thing as been confined in quite a small holding tank for such a long time and it's not a small one either.
Sad. I joked about our resident yellow that I would sell it at R15000 I think that about £750 but that's just because it was not for sale and if someone actually offered me that I would think about it but he is our pet and I love him to bits.
Hooray!!! Yellow tangs are gonna be back!!! I already have its close relatives the Half Black Mimic and the Scopas so Im just waiting for yellow tangs now.
I got my yellow tang back in 2013 he's doing fantastic I'm glad I bought mine when I did 40 bucks one day I went into the pet store to buy some food and when I seen the price for $380 I asked the guy what the hell is going on is that a typo at that time I didn't know there was a ban on collecting yellow tangs I could not believe my eyes then they went up to 500 hopefully this will lower prices for people looking for yellow tanks
Can get a pretty decently sized yellow tank in Ohio for 155-175 now. They were upwards to 350
I have not seen anything coming out of Hawaii, so is it lifted or are they just thinking about it again.
Its was lifted at the time of this video, but the ruling was appealed and they won that appeal.
I wish y’all would be more enthusiastic about trading invasives that look just as exotic like ta’apes and rois. Gonna need bigger tanks 😂.
People need to bite the bullet and stop paying these insane prices. Hold off on getting a yellow tang, it's a $40.00 fish! Why would you ever pay $200 or more? Customers who are buying these are the cause of the problem! Stop buying and it will force the suppliers to lower their prices.
Can't wait to get a potter's angelfish!
Yeah I have not seen one for ages.
yes those r stunners :)
There is a place in Canada that sells gems for $250Cad-$300cad that’s the price a biota yellow tangs in Canada
Yeah like I said in the video never thought I'd see the day that gems and yellows were the same price.🙈
Can’t wait. I’m going to get two .. just bc I can.
Well I think we going to need to wait till the hype is over before we see the price drop but I am 🙏🙏🙏 it happens fast.
I think it will be a while before the price comes down, but as they become plentiful, I’m sure prices will drop as will desirability!
Yeah once the hype is over I am sure they will settle to what will be the new norm.🙏
where did you find this info on the hawaii fish ban lift?
Reef Builders released and artical earlier this weeks.
I would love for them to come down I
Here is Australia they are 1000$
And here in South Africa I thought we had it bad.🙈
Heard this early today and was cautiously excited.
Yeah me too lol
Do not buy any otherwise expect to pay a lo wait
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Prices drop
Yeah the only problem there is not everyone will do that but as I said above the hype will settle and then the price should settle to it's new norm.
Great to know Yellow Tang is back! I had to go Scopas Tang instead...Though I like Scopas Tang:)
Yeah me too but you cant replace a yellow. I guess once you have owned a yellow it changes things.
Forget the yellow tang. I'm gonna gets some flame wrasse!
I dont think they made the list.🙈
Where are you guys situated in SA
Durban. Google Reef Maniacs 👍
Do you have website
Yes but not working 100% yet.
Yea price for yellow tang is crazy high im not paying 240 for a fish
I paid more than $240. $250 two months ago! Lol
@@76honda76 dang im waiting till they cheaper
Yeah its is crazy considering what we used to pay let's just hope the hype is over quick.
Paid $19.99 before the ban
No its not as far as I know
At the time or this video yes the ban was lifted which was appealed, shortly after that they won their appeal closing it again.
I hope Biota will work with the glofish company to produce a red, blue, purple, green, pink glowing fluorescent Tang fish. I am tired of the yellow color.
Lol🙈🙈🙈
They’ve already proved many times and it’s totally substantive. Also, there’s nothing wrong with it even though I do highly support cb fish to
Yeah CB is good and we have come along with the species that are now available.
For me there can be a wild caught ban on any marine fish that can be tank bred if I'm honest. Yes they are more expensive, but also give you a better conscience, are more hardy and don't give our hobby a bad reputation.
Unfortunately even if there were only captive bread this industry will still been given a bad name to be honest. It is because of this hobby we have come so far in the research and technology in reef keeping.
I 100% concur. BIOTA's Hawaii facility has been breeding Yellow Tangs in captivity for the pet industry for years. Not only are those practices more sustainable, it most importantly produces fish that have a substantially better survival rate in the hobby. Stop raping nature, start thinking about life on earth!!!
I would take a healthy while, yellow tang, any day over a captive bred one even though I’m glad they are captive breeding them
source?
Reef Builders article that was released earlier this week.
Holy contradictions batman.
sorry where are the contradictions Robin?
I live in Hawaii and the fish have nowhere near recovered, this is just going finish destroying Hawaii's reefs. Which means that you won't be able to sustain the export of these fish and you will only be able to purchase them for a few years before the population crashes again. They didn't lift the ban because the fish habitat and numbers have recovered, but because politicians are trying to get elected. Just like a lot of people died in America from the pandemic because they prioritized the economy not the people. If they listened to the locals they wouldn't be lifting the ban. But they are going to listen to the money, and just like California wouldn't listen to the First Nation about controlled burns of the forest, it is going to lead to disaster. But they never learn. By 2030 Hawaii's waters will look like the Dead Sea and seeing as Hawaii's tourism is supported by its waters that's going to go away too. Stupid humans.
I do understand your feeling towards this, but Hawaii is one of the best researched and controlled marine ornamental fish collection facilities in the industry. I only hope that with the new restrictions on the species that they can collect dropping from 40 to 8 and the further drop in the annual bag limits that it wont have a negative impact on the reefs in Hawaii. It needs to be done sustainably or they will have to close it again.
@@ReefManiacs I'm one of the many researchers who do the studies in this area and we all stood against this action. but the industry bought the politicians' pockets. The collection industry starts their records deliberately in the nineties after there had been over collection for thirty years and states that the fish are back to their "normal " numbers. Which is like starting in 2022 and saying the normal numbers of Northern White Rhinos is two, because that's how many there are in 2022. You can't use a random point in time as your start point especially if records show that at that point the primary point in damage had already been done. We do have university records back to 1939 that prove that the damage has been recorded since the 1960s, and these are ornamental fish, not fish people are eating. Many of the numbers are recordings of fishes who names have the Hawaiian word "Kapu" in them, it means "forbidden" . Under Hawaiian law you would be killed for harming that fish.
A lot of the information you are getting is coming direct to you from your industry. That's like watching only FOX news. They are only going to tell you what's good for them. they don't care about the long run it is all about money now. What they have purposed isn't sustainable at this time, so soon, yellow tangs will only be from Biota and they will be able to charge a million dollars for one. pushing the extinction of fish in the wild, plays to the benifit of the labs that breed them.
LOL
Oh, I see you do "Science" .
@@nedlabarbara1898 And you will see how well I do science when fish from Hawaii cost more than your house.
@@carlosvillanueva8530 You're a "scientist" like Fauci 😆😆😆