Dosed microbacter 7 for 15 days in between Dr. Tims waste away added a 55 watt uv and also raised the temp to 82 degrees but before that did a massive clean up of rocks sand no water change they feed of the new water try to pull out as much as you can I used a fish net so I wouldn't have to change the water I did the clean up for a whole week I fought this for six months
It’s more of imbalance of nitrate to phosphate, my phosphate stayed at .5ppm for the longest time and then dropped to .03 ppm, nitrate stayed at 30ppm. And bam Dino all over the sand.
When you bottom out nutrients in your reef, you create the perfect petri dish for dino's and cyano th THRIVE! ive learned that elevated nutrients keeps your water chemistry balanced and corals happy. my tank stays stable at 5-10 nitrates and .1 phosphates.... its taken a couple years but i think thats the other key... maturity in a tank really matters!
beat dino in 1 week turned off skimmer and lights off for a week .turned skimmer back on at day 5 day 7 lights back on.no more dinos plenty of hair algae but dinos was gone and fixed hair algae with gfo.
Currently having a Dino problem and have been looking up ways to treat. So this helps. And thinking about it now, I recall roughly back in August or September the temperatures outside were in the 100s (I live in Houston, Texas), and at the same time the Coil in my AC unit brokedown and needed to get replaced. So for about a week I had no AC in my house, and since I do not have a chiller on my tank as my indoor temperature is never really above 75, my tank's temp shot up to between 84 and 86 degrees before my AC got fixed. During that time, and I am only now realizing the reason for this after watching your video, I had no Dinos or Cyano and most of my corals grew new polyps/heads, including corals I had never seen even grow one new head in the year or more that I have had them. So now I am definitely going to be raising my temp from 78.5-79.5 (it fluctuates between the two depending on my AC setting, which I normally keep at 68 at night) to 82, maybe 84 degrees in order to reduce Dino and Cyano and encourage my corals to grow more.
Been able to beat Amphidinium then Ostreopsis here Scott. For ostreopsis a powerful UV seems great, dosing silica helps. For amphi and other benthic dinos it seems a multiple front method works: nano-scrubbing, some bacteria (MB7, LRE, dr tim’s waste away, vibrant), dinox helps, keeping ph above 8 helps, keeping only blue light helps, keeping phos and nit always above 0 is a must, blackout when it is near gone, removing substrate or replacing with a new one helps, peroxide helps but only when bacteria are not dosed. Cruz Arias - Elegant corals also helped a lot of people. Anyway I did not use raised temperature and I am interested on these results, so far it looks like another method that could help (for sure keeping water oxigenation may be a concern during that)... Thanks for the video Scott 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
I've been looking into coral reef temps to find out where I should set my new tank at. I am seeing many of them are around 27C - 30C during the summer. I think this allows the bacteria to grow faster, in-turn feeding the coral as they consume the bacteria. But I think I raised my tank temp too fast and kicked off a second cycle. My inverts didn't seem happy about that. So I dropped it back down, and going to try to raise it up a little slower and watch it closer. Going to try and get back to 27.7C (82F)
I battled it for about a year with my old true volume 55g (2in taller) about 10yrs ago, nobody had tried temps, but i tried 3days of total darkness, very little feeding, water changes would make it worse, tried sucking it out but it would just grow back overnight, i tried my hand at peroxide dosing 5ml per 10g it would slow but not enough to counter it i got so frustrated with it so i upped and upped to the point of just pouring peroxide in like 1/4 cup two to 3 times a day and it helped alil i tried 3 day black out with large peroxide doses and it seemed to have gone away first day back with lights baaaammm right back with a vengeance so i sold the damn thing and started over fresh lol it had defeated me :(
Is that dino or stinger tentacles on 1:58 on the jack o lantern? My new pectinia has had just one of those on it and its when lights are on Its the only frags that has that and i heard they have long stingers so I thought that is what it was! My nitrates are 2 or 3 and phos. is 0 or 1 after dosing nopox. It looks like diatoms but after water change it got real bad and coated wavemakers that were just cleaned like a mat of velvet, also on sand and glass. I think I have GHA on some spots of rock but it got worse so I am baffled as to what I have. I have all the conditions but dosnt look like what I see. I am going to add phospates and feed more and add MB7, vacuum sand, no water changes and dose vibrant first before taking drastic measures. My tank also runs about 82 living in Florida and led lights! I am sure the temp has kept it from going nuts after seeing you video and truthfully after I did the WC and cleaned up alot that day its not bad but noticable to me. I am hopeful I can wipe it out without using drastic measures! Love your channel! Oh, Did your skimmer go nuts when you had this? it wont stop over skimming and dont know why!
Thanks for the 411. I'm battlin' dino's too here in Wheatridge and am experiencing the same awesome, CO weather. I've sucked them out, am using UV with some success. Would love to meet up someday with ya, buddy!
Great to hear from another Colorado Reefer. Stay safe in this crazy weather. I’m hoping we get Reestock next year. It’s always great to meet up with local Reefers.
Im always learning thank you for the heads up on temp im about to join my 180 with my 30 long and ive had good slow growth over the past 2 years my temp has been low at 75.0 to 75.8 and ive wondered why my growth rates haven't been more im thinking its my temp now...im going to slowly raise my temp with this new system and ill def go 🐌 speed....great video Scott 🍻 good Sir
@@MileHighReefers im in atlanta myself and man its been a hot armpit of a summer here...im ready for the cold too but i will say ive been to your side of town in December and man the cold yall experience is a force to respect....you take care Scott and my names Chris freeman 🍻
Hi Scott - I read the article and immediately tried it on my 15G which I think had cyano (I'm colorblind) - anyhow that tank had developed them into winter (I'm in Europe) as in summer that tank had got up over 28C (83 is 28.33) Anyhow by the time I read the article I was using some Vibrant (low doses) for a month or so - then I took the temp up to 27.5 (maybe that's 82) - the dinos / cyan went. So I would combo it up - On my new main system I have clams and I heard they are really sensitive to temp swings in reef tanks (funny enough because you would think being from a lagoon that they would handle it - I don't know... would rather not risk it). I run my tank at 75.5 in the summer (I don't have a chiller or fans) and will probably run it at 78 when it gets colder (just to have some leeway) My new tank doesn't have any issues with it - I have what I consider lowish nutrients (about 0.03PO4/5NO3) - I think because I used rock I had in water for a year with some live rock and I dose bacteria and probiotics occasionally The other thing I did is use live Synechococcus plankton - It supposedly get's rid of it cyano all on it's own. I think a combo is therefore probably a good idea - higher temps, bacteria and plankton. Also on the bacteria I am going to likely use Continuum Gen-M as I heard it does the same job as Vibrant but cheaper. I also have heard of issues with Vibrant but I think they are dosing more than the recommended minimum amount - I go easy with it - I don't view it as a miracle cure just a tool ;)
Thanks for sharing your story it’s great feedback. I think you nailed a great path forward for a lot of us. I also like the it’s not a miracle cure but a tool line of thinking, makes great sense
I was battling dino on my fluval evo 13.5 , I tried peroxide for 4 months, it slowed down but once I stopped it came back. I then stumbled on the reef breeders page on reef2reef and thought I'd try it. I first did a 3 day blackout while raising the temp slowly from 78 to 82 over the 3 days then slowly brought the lighting back. I then did a small water change to get some detritus out. The temp raise slowed the growth alot. I then left it another 2 weeks followed by 3day blackout with another water change. Now 2 months on no dino(touch wood).
@@MileHighReefers no problem, all the help you give others it's nice to give back. I hope other people can chime in and give their assistance/experience with their own results.
Dosed microbacter 7 for 15 days in between Dr. Tims waste away added a 55 watt uv and also raised the temp to 82 degrees but before that did a massive clean up of rocks sand no water change they feed of the new water try to pull out as much as you can I used a fish net so I wouldn't have to change the water I did the clean up for a whole week I fought this for six months
It’s more of imbalance of nitrate to phosphate, my phosphate stayed at .5ppm for the longest time and then dropped to .03 ppm, nitrate stayed at 30ppm. And bam Dino all over the sand.
When you bottom out nutrients in your reef, you create the perfect petri dish for dino's and cyano th THRIVE! ive learned that elevated nutrients keeps your water chemistry balanced and corals happy. my tank stays stable at 5-10 nitrates and .1 phosphates.... its taken a couple years but i think thats the other key... maturity in a tank really matters!
beat dino in 1 week turned off skimmer and lights off for a week .turned skimmer back on at day 5 day 7 lights back on.no more dinos plenty of hair algae but dinos was gone and fixed hair algae with gfo.
Currently having a Dino problem and have been looking up ways to treat. So this helps. And thinking about it now, I recall roughly back in August or September the temperatures outside were in the 100s (I live in Houston, Texas), and at the same time the Coil in my AC unit brokedown and needed to get replaced. So for about a week I had no AC in my house, and since I do not have a chiller on my tank as my indoor temperature is never really above 75, my tank's temp shot up to between 84 and 86 degrees before my AC got fixed. During that time, and I am only now realizing the reason for this after watching your video, I had no Dinos or Cyano and most of my corals grew new polyps/heads, including corals I had never seen even grow one new head in the year or more that I have had them. So now I am definitely going to be raising my temp from 78.5-79.5 (it fluctuates between the two depending on my AC setting, which I normally keep at 68 at night) to 82, maybe 84 degrees in order to reduce Dino and Cyano and encourage my corals to grow more.
No.
I bet Dino buy raising the temperature to 83 combatted with using Dr. Tim's Re-fresh and Wasteaway .
Been able to beat Amphidinium then Ostreopsis here Scott. For ostreopsis a powerful UV seems great, dosing silica helps. For amphi and other benthic dinos it seems a multiple front method works: nano-scrubbing, some bacteria (MB7, LRE, dr tim’s waste away, vibrant), dinox helps, keeping ph above 8 helps, keeping only blue light helps, keeping phos and nit always above 0 is a must, blackout when it is near gone, removing substrate or replacing with a new one helps, peroxide helps but only when bacteria are not dosed. Cruz Arias - Elegant corals also helped a lot of people. Anyway I did not use raised temperature and I am interested on these results, so far it looks like another method that could help (for sure keeping water oxigenation may be a concern during that)... Thanks for the video Scott 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
Great feedback thanks for sharing! I think temp is another tool for us to use in our battle
My tank always runs 85 in the summer and my tank is thriving
My solution was always pull out other algaes and feed reef roids. Or vibrant but I had some issues with vibrant and corals.
Check out sea temperature around the world most 80 and up I run my tank 82 all the time no trouble
I've been looking into coral reef temps to find out where I should set my new tank at. I am seeing many of them are around 27C - 30C during the summer. I think this allows the bacteria to grow faster, in-turn feeding the coral as they consume the bacteria. But I think I raised my tank temp too fast and kicked off a second cycle. My inverts didn't seem happy about that. So I dropped it back down, and going to try to raise it up a little slower and watch it closer. Going to try and get back to 27.7C (82F)
Scott your 210 is so mature 👏 😍 its a beautiful ecosystem 🤙🏽
I battled it for about a year with my old true volume 55g (2in taller) about 10yrs ago, nobody had tried temps, but i tried 3days of total darkness, very little feeding, water changes would make it worse, tried sucking it out but it would just grow back overnight, i tried my hand at peroxide dosing 5ml per 10g it would slow but not enough to counter it i got so frustrated with it so i upped and upped to the point of just pouring peroxide in like 1/4 cup two to 3 times a day and it helped alil i tried 3 day black out with large peroxide doses and it seemed to have gone away first day back with lights baaaammm right back with a vengeance so i sold the damn thing and started over fresh lol it had defeated me :(
Your story sounds so much like mine it gets so frustrating. I hope you find a long term solution
I’ve been fighting them sporadically in my 65g. Thanks for the video
Yep sporadically in my 60g.
My tank hits 85 in the summer.
I’m on night 1 of 84 degrees been raising slowly.
Did it work?
Is that dino or stinger tentacles on 1:58 on the jack o lantern? My new pectinia has had just one of those on it and its when lights are on Its the only frags that has that and i heard they have long stingers so I thought that is what it was! My nitrates are 2 or 3 and phos. is 0 or 1 after dosing nopox. It looks like diatoms but after water change it got real bad and coated wavemakers that were just cleaned like a mat of velvet, also on sand and glass. I think I have GHA on some spots of rock but it got worse so I am baffled as to what I have. I have all the conditions but dosnt look like what I see. I am going to add phospates and feed more and add MB7, vacuum sand, no water changes and dose vibrant first before taking drastic measures. My tank also runs about 82 living in Florida and led lights! I am sure the temp has kept it from going nuts after seeing you video and truthfully after I did the WC and cleaned up alot that day its not bad but noticable to me. I am hopeful I can wipe it out without using drastic measures! Love your channel! Oh, Did your skimmer go nuts when you had this? it wont stop over skimming and dont know why!
Was wondering who you look like, then I saw David Cross in a movie yesterday.
First!
These videos feel like they are still being filmed in 2013 or 2014 its beautiful
I am changing my heater temp on my apex right now! This stuff sucks
Did it work?
Thanks for the 411. I'm battlin' dino's too here in Wheatridge and am experiencing the same awesome, CO weather. I've sucked them out, am using UV with some success. Would love to meet up someday with ya, buddy!
Great to hear from another Colorado Reefer. Stay safe in this crazy weather. I’m hoping we get Reestock next year. It’s always great to meet up with local Reefers.
Im always learning thank you for the heads up on temp im about to join my 180 with my 30 long and ive had good slow growth over the past 2 years my temp has been low at 75.0 to 75.8 and ive wondered why my growth rates haven't been more im thinking its my temp now...im going to slowly raise my temp with this new system and ill def go 🐌 speed....great video Scott 🍻 good Sir
Wifes going to kill me when i have a sump running in the living room 😆 but i want to ensure the 180 is stable before i join my 30
I’m ready for some cool weather to help get my coral growth under control 🤪
@@MileHighReefers im in atlanta myself and man its been a hot armpit of a summer here...im ready for the cold too but i will say ive been to your side of town in December and man the cold yall experience is a force to respect....you take care Scott and my names Chris freeman 🍻
Hi Scott - I read the article and immediately tried it on my 15G which I think had cyano (I'm colorblind) - anyhow that tank had developed them into winter (I'm in Europe) as in summer that tank had got up over 28C (83 is 28.33)
Anyhow by the time I read the article I was using some Vibrant (low doses) for a month or so - then I took the temp up to 27.5 (maybe that's 82) - the dinos / cyan went.
So I would combo it up - On my new main system I have clams and I heard they are really sensitive to temp swings in reef tanks (funny enough because you would think being from a lagoon that they would handle it - I don't know... would rather not risk it).
I run my tank at 75.5 in the summer (I don't have a chiller or fans) and will probably run it at 78 when it gets colder (just to have some leeway)
My new tank doesn't have any issues with it - I have what I consider lowish nutrients (about 0.03PO4/5NO3) - I think because I used rock I had in water for a year with some live rock and I dose bacteria and probiotics occasionally
The other thing I did is use live Synechococcus plankton - It supposedly get's rid of it cyano all on it's own.
I think a combo is therefore probably a good idea - higher temps, bacteria and plankton.
Also on the bacteria I am going to likely use Continuum Gen-M as I heard it does the same job as Vibrant but cheaper. I also have heard of issues with Vibrant but I think they are dosing more than the recommended minimum amount - I go easy with it - I don't view it as a miracle cure just a tool ;)
Thanks for sharing your story it’s great feedback. I think you nailed a great path forward for a lot of us. I also like the it’s not a miracle cure but a tool line of thinking, makes great sense
@@MileHighReefers Wow thanks Scott!
its not green
Thank you for the video!
I clicked for the feather duster.
I was battling dino on my fluval evo 13.5 , I tried peroxide for 4 months, it slowed down but once I stopped it came back. I then stumbled on the reef breeders page on reef2reef and thought I'd try it.
I first did a 3 day blackout while raising the temp slowly from 78 to 82 over the 3 days then slowly brought the lighting back. I then did a small water change to get some detritus out. The temp raise slowed the growth alot. I then left it another 2 weeks followed by 3day blackout with another water change. Now 2 months on no dino(touch wood).
That’s Fantastic news! Thanks for letting us know.
@@MileHighReefers no problem, all the help you give others it's nice to give back. I hope other people can chime in and give their assistance/experience with their own results.
Quick answer no
Truth is you got bad luck that’s how it got introduced.
I’ve had my run in three times this last time I beat it with bacteria 🦠 and Uv