First of all R.I.P Chadwick Boseman, Secondly WAKANDA FOREVER, Lastly thank you all for your support and love, I hope you enjoy this reaction, over then next few weeks please pay attention to the community tab, I’ll have some news/updates I’ll be posting, so if you’re not following the Instagram that’s the only place you’ll see it. Other than that Take care!
Hi. I know also that you both are Harry Potter fans so I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Harry Potter 20th Anniversary: Return to Hogwarts by HBO. You will love it! Thanks
Hey Rico, absolutely love you and Monica for this reaction and a reaction to all the MCU films so far. I have question tho: are you planning on watching the new films (half are on Disney + now) and the Marvel TV shows (also on Disney +)? The MCU is building up to something new and I would love to see you guys continue to watch. Also wanna say the TV shows are essential viewing (esp WandaVision and Loki) and that Marvel has done a WONDERFUL job with their TV shows so far.
“YOU WERE WRONG. ALL OF YOU WERE WRONG.” That hit really hard. The emotion and the acting in that scene was top notch. The writing as well. Imagine having the balls to tell your forefathers AND the father you deeply respected that… they were straight up fking wrong. IMAGINE.
Fun facts: 1 .King T'Chaka is a South African actor and the person who played the young King T'Chaka is actually his son. 2. The language they speak is Xhosa one of SA's 11 official languages. 3. The spear and shield Chadwick used in the fight for king are Zulu weapons. 4. Some of the songs they played in the background when they were in Shuri's lab is Amapiano, a music genre only found in South Africa. 5. Some of the scenes in wakanda were shot in Golden Gate Highland National Park in the Free state province. 6. Four SA actors were in the film, including Trevor Noah. I loved my country's representation in this movie and Africa as a whole.
@@the_judge_8262 Yeah die voorstelling was ongelooflik. Dit is tyd dat die wêreld die skoonheid van ons land sien. I hope you understand what I wrote, I'm not that great in Afrikaans.
When I look at the action scenes in this movie and Captain America: Civil War I’m truly amazed. Chadwick Boseman did these films while battling cancer.
I physically went to the theater 5x's to see this. As a black guy, as well as a black kid into comics. We always had to imagine behind all the masks were black guys. Blade & Black Panther meant a lot to the kid inside me. With this though, Ryan Coogler understood what & how the dilema we face, as black men, feels. Killmonger & T'challa are 2 sides of the same coin. A duality of personal conflicts in many men, specifically displaced Descendants from African countries. Personally, this movie always brings emotion. Especially Killmomgers' last dialogue. Btw, I'm 49.
To me this is the best MCU film...and I'm not black. Chadwick and Michael B Jordan brought that power. I also liked the difference in perspective between Wakanda and Killmonger. I really believe this movie is about the transformation of Wakanda. The three scenes in the ancestral realm really highlight the trajectory: Reverence of Wakanda followed by the issue and then the utter denial. Great film.
@@JSSTyger as an African I applaud the director. He represented our diverse cultures very well whilst tackling the complex issues of colonisation & racism well. Would love to see more onsight filming though, African has beautiful landscapes wildlife.
Idk if you guys remember but Klaue is the one who provided Ultron with the vibranium he needed to make a new body and Vision (in Age of Ultron). In that same scene Ultron cut off Klaue’s arm bc he said Ultron reminded him of Tony stark. That’s why Klaue has that vibranium prosthetic/canon on his arm in this movie
@@ButtToucher99 This might be well-known, but it's worth repeating just for the illustration of Andy Serkis' incredible versatility and talent; Klaue is also Gollum. The difference in body language between the two characters alone is breathtaking.
it was nice to also, get a futurized version of things that actually have an African or tribal feel to them. we constantly get either a grungy future punk aesthetic or a minimalist, mute, and overall sterile look to things. the closer you get to bigger cities the more obscure the customs and cultural sense of things become. and sure countries try to change that with some them of nationalism where the flag of said country is worked into clothing. but rarely is it something that has a big cultural significance. but in this film, we see the styles of the tribes and for once it's not portrayed as something primitive.
@@Nadie47 thanks for the positive comment. you really put a smile on my face. as we all know how rare it is to share your thoughts and to actually get positive feedback or people agreeing with the sentiment to such a degree. may you continue to shine light on others.
As someone who is both native American (Choctaw) and Irish, I believe that we should learn our history and embrace it (at least as far as is morally right). I love the richness and vibrance of various cultures and hate the idea of all of that culture being lost to the pages of history.
@@Aliensdontwearsocks exactly. there is a sense of legacy in culture. in Virginia I've seen my fair number of civil war renacments. but it would be nice if we had something like that for people of distinct cultures. how much richer would history and diversity be if we got to see what made us different and where we are similar. look at greek Tragedies along with their pantheon of gods. Ask most people in the world if they know who Zeus is and they'll say yes to a certain extent but what do we know about the the cultures of the native Americans?! the fact that they were confused with people from India for so long is criminal. now I'm trying to imagine how badass futuristic native American would have shaped the landscape and how it would also be reflected in their clothing and jewelry.
@@aristothethrone9032 My grandfather traced our genealogy back to the 1100's. I have royals and rebels, chieftains and outlaws all represented in my blood. It's strange to think of but I wonder how it impacts my thought processes and such. I'm also 4th generation military and very much believe in a smaller govt and more individual freedoms. I wonder how much of that fiercely independent streak came from my forbears. I once asked my dad why he never claimed any of the money available to him through the tribe and he said "I don't deserve any special breaks just for being born". That always stuck with me and is something that I've strived to pass on to my kids as part of their mindset. Understanding the legacy and (more importantly) the mindset of the men and women who came before us can give us a much deeper understanding of ourselves
I feel like Monica would be both amazing and horrible to watch movies with :P Amazing because her reactions are so funny sometimes, and horrible because she's SO DAMN GOOD at guessing!
@@Redbeedrill If anything, I'd be playfully annoyed at Rico for his shitty poker faces during the guesses and the hesitant small little spoilers because he's watched the movie already. Smh, Rico..
@@Naruto31132 He could’ve played off the cousin thing better. I would’ve said, ‘a cousin?’ Then shrugged and continued watching. His reaction is what confirmed it for her instead of the movie.
The scarring killmonger has is an actual practice for boys becoming men in a specific African tribe (I forget it’s name) To create those bumps you cut yourself and then flood the wound with cold water so that it rises and swells and heals like that.
@@witdajuice6763 Not just in Africa, I think. Ritual scarification, or, as one might think of it, the deliberate cultivation of scar tissue, occurs in a lot of cultures. It makes sense, as it's a method of permanently marking the body that is relatively safe, doesn't compromise function, and can be done with minimal tech and materials.
I hear ya on all that & agree with @RicoPresents. This movie got me to work in film. And if I'm not mistaken the mask Killmonger picked up was the tribe of people that he was referencing who jumped off the ship when they were sent to slavery. Ryan Coogler and others who worked on this project did really well with this film! R.I.P. Chadwick Boseman.
This was a good film indeed. I can't watch this and not cry at the ancestral plane scene because it always reminds me of a dream I had with my late grandfather visiting me from Heaven. I told him how sorry I was for not being there to say goodbye, but he simply smiled and hugged me while telling me that he'll always love and watch me no matter what. I watched him walk up the stairs to Heaven before waking up with tears rolling down my face. When I heard Chadwick passed away, it took me a bit to process. He will always be, to me, the true king of Wakanda and the one true Black Panther. I hope for the next Black Panther film, they will do all they can to honor Chadwick's memory. WAKANDA FOREVER!
Monica quickly piecing things together is hoootttttttt lol. Also at the end when Killmonger says his pops told him Wakanda was the most beautiful thing he saw and he's crying in pain, I just want to hold him.
Monica is a very smart girl, she spots things a lot of people miss. I saw that the first video reaction i watched of you guys. Her intuition is very good, you should listen to her if she has gut feelings.
Can't lie Rico I could listen to your thoughts on this movie for a whole day and this is coming from a guy who literally clicks of the video as soon as you guys watch the post credit scenes , I just find it so fascinating of what you were saying and I never even realized that T'challa was surrounded by empowered women it's so great to notice things from other people's perspectives because it shows how much you can still learn no matter your age. Also the video was as great as always and I wish you and Monica a very happy new year 😊
Great reaction. On the topic of Killmonger not doing anything wrong, he is complex man but there is enough there to give us villain-esque attributes: a) For starters, destroying any scope for succession/having no Wakandan succession plan by burning all of the herb was silly - at the very least shows disdain for the traditions he so vehemently wants to be a part of. b) Even his "let's arm the War Dogs" plan was downright baseless in terms of geography - like Hong Kong which is hardly an outpost of black oppression ever and particularly not now, was one of the first targets. He's a phenomenal character but I genuinely think there are limits to supporting his agenda that are often ignored.
Yeah its pretty dumb. Aside from his murder of innocent people at the museum, the notion that black people are one group who would use the weapons against their 'oppressors' in reality there's lots of black people who would love nothing more than to use high-tech weapons on other black people. Already seen people in the comments saying they couldn't see anything wrong with his plan.
@@30noir Yea and what about the countless African tribes oppressing eachother. He would obviously pick a side. Oppressing people is not a feature relegated to one skin color, but human nature due to our tribalism tendencies. It's why T'challa has it right and just help everyone.
But even after all that he makes you feel sorry for him. Of course when I first heard he was playing the villain in Black Panther I only knew him as 'Wallace' from 'The Wire' and I just kept on thinking 'Don't hurt him, he doesn't know what he's doing'. I'm still devoted to Michael B Jordan of course but Chadwick definitely won my heart throughout the movie.
To be fair, I think part of what makes a villain a villain is that even if their motives are good, their plan is flawed and the ends don't justify the means. Like Thanos cutting the population in half instead of doubling the resources. But you're right, he's still an amazing character.
T'challa & Killmonger are basically a comic book characterization of Martin Luther King & Malcolm X. Story creator Stan Lee saw first hand the inception of the civil rights movement from the 50's through the 70's and intentionally wove it into the fabric of the comics. Who's bad, who's good? YOU decide.
@@nate8604 All false. Stan Lee has said multiple times that he didn't make those comics to be some parallel of our world. That only ever came up when Marvel was taken over by ideologues, and he had no involvement outside of cameos till his death.
The reason why I personally think killmonger is a villain while at the same time a victim is his intent, his intent to spread war and bloodshed throughout the world was evil ( had to clarify due to people here with smooth brains ). However he isn’t a bad guy in that aspect as he’s reasons are vaild, based on everything he experienced, still a bad boy for feeling angry and vengeful, But this move was very much humanized in many scenes which made it feel different and more personal to people, very well made movie with a fantastic cast and fantastic character development and scenery to add. As a side note Chadwick will never be dead as long as people remember and enjoy his works as an actor and as a person, he is BLACK PANTHER now and forever
Not exactly the point here but I'm also hoping that Chadwick's death won't be in vain and will encourage not only more black superheroes in movies, but that it'll also encourage more young people to get a colonoscopy earlier in life rather than just waiting till they reach their 40s.
@@agenttheater5 well it kinda does I mean his msg at the end was that basically people stop the hate an look out for eachother so in a way if you believe that someone is not acting or feeling right then I guess you could take as a point to help them out
It's in the name "killmonger" that he's a villain. It's fine to dislike oppression. But most black people aren't being oppressed today. It's all down to american media trying to racebait over the few incidents that will inevitably occur between a black and white person. It's not like whites don't kill themselves, or blacks don't kill themselves. They're not exactly reporting on all the times a cop has killed a unarmed white guy. Or when a black person kills a white person as if that was racially motivated. As if white people should all riot over it. It's a minority of the population. Wanting to start a world war because you hate people who aren't even hurting you doesn't make you the good guy at all. Wanna repeat ww2?
@@DlcEnergy what the fuck are you on? Seriously here you are trying to claim that I said some sort of pigshit when in reality you missed the entire point of his intentions make him a villain but of course we have a try hard wannabe super hero here who takes shit out of context and spins it to his own narrative. Let be dumb it down for your sensitive ass, his idea of wiping out everyone who doesn’t stand with him ( black white or any other ) all around the world makes him a villain, him feeling pissed and angry makes him human. The fact that you can’t seem to tell the difference between such things just show how easily triggered you are, while spinning things you don’t understand to fit your narrative just proves that. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between emotion and intention clearly shows you’re only here just to start a fight
@53:20, When I saw Angela Basset as Queen Ramonda with that snow white hair it hurt. I always felt that Angela should have played Storm in the original X-Men movies. She would have been lit as Storm.
Monica doesn't see. She observes. 🤣🕵🏻♀️ Great reaction as always! Killmonger is more of an antagonist than a villain. Clearly, his tactics are wrong but you can understand how he got there. And his final line in the film is perfection.
Can we even say he's wrong? Given the tremendous, acute, and ongoing oppression and injustice he's attempting to stop, very hard to say that almost any method isn't justified. Very deliberate MLK v X vibes here, as was also done in the Xavier v Magneto debate in X-Men. When Killmonger was giving his speech about giving the racialized oppressed weapons that they might kill and overthrow those in power, all I could think was, "Well, fair enough, really". As you sow, so must you expect to reap. And, frankly, how likely is it that the new rulers would do a worse job than the old? Not to bring in bitter reality, but we're 8 years at the outside from locking-in a climate regime that will, in all likelihood, shred our society to the base of the concept, and that's just one of several ongoing, accelerating, and, increasingly, mutually-supporting existential crises for human civilization as we know it. Have you seen "Don't Look Up"? If anything, it describes a rosier situation than our current one, and treats it with an over-abundance of optimism. Further explanation available upon request, but I wouldn't recommend it if you're trying to have a peaceful day.
rico what i loved about this movie is that black people from america africa and england all came together to make a memorable and extremly important film for black people all over the world
When I watched this show and saw M'Baku (Winston Duke) I was glad ,as a Trinidadian {Trinbagonian}, to see someone represent my country of Trinidad and Tobago. {btw he is Tobagonian, not born on the same island as me but we are from the same country}.
You guys stressed it, but it is extremely rare to have a story in which there is no villain. KM's story is relatable on many levels, especially considering racial injustices common in America. He had no path to the throne unless it was forged by his own hand. And he presented himself with honor and respect when he finally got there (all things considered). His methods were problematic, but the message behind it was not invalid. This movie truly showed the meaning of having heroes.
this movie hits so different now that Chadwick is gone. loved the movie before, but this is the first time watching it since his death and i'm already tearing up 15 minutes in
impressed she figured out the cousin thing so quickly 🙂 glad she’s starting to pay more attention, now that she’s seen how easter eggs and little things are important in the mcu. frustrated me in earlier reactions when she’d be confused and start asking about things they had literally talked about or showed earlier in the film. glad she’s finding those mcu eyes and ears 😃
@12:44, fun fact the color schemes of the major Wakandan tribes matches the colors of African-American fraternities and sororities. As an HBCU grad I found it to be a nice homage.
@@Iletyoulive I never said the color schemes were not from African tribes. I simply said they match African American fraternities and sororities. SMH. Just because the designer had one thing in mind doesn’t mean another happy coincidence can’t occur. Sometimes a thing can literally be two separate positions at once. Good grief
I vividly remember the first time I realized how important representation was in film. I went to see The Force Awakens in IMAX. Got out of it at the same time a showing of Concussion in the next theater, a movie that received mediocre reception. But I saw nothing but black people, including older ones in pretty nice clothes, coming out of Concussion. Then this movie comes out, and all of my black friends, even ones who weren't fans of Marvel or superhero movies in general, posting about going to see it, some dressed in traditional African garb. I love comic books and support hero movies, and I love every opportunity to talk to others about it. More representation like this means more people to geek out with, and I'm all for it.
Aww you two are great! I'm a huge fan of your reactions. Monica reminds me of my late bestie, she's extremely observant, funny and her facial expressions crack me up! Rico reminds me of my nephew how excited he gets. I saw you during Ragnorok girl lol. Thank you guys for this particular reaction, it felt like watching with family and I understand all Ricos emotions regarding this movie because its huge! Its such a vibe to see black people portrayed in this way, fictional or not it was aspirational. The last MCU movie I saw with my friend was Civil War she didn't get to see this and she would have loved it.
When I saw this in the theater for the first time it was very well done and just the whole culturally effect it has is amazing. & I get all your guys points
Killmonger is totally a villain and a bad person... He's not entirely unjustified, which makes him an interesting and cool villain, but he's pretty clearly motivated by spite, revenge and possibly a bit of a lust for power too... I mean, why else would he try to make it so no one could challenge him later? He used their challenge system as a way to get into power, but if he were truly honourable, why wouldn't he then be happy to take T'challa's challenge when he returned? He didn't have to necessarily, but arguably that would be the honourable thing to do... Plus he beat him once already... To be fair though, it might be smart of him not to engage him if he didn't have to... But yeah, he's a good character, but a bad person... And even worse if, as it seems, he was specifically planning to make black people the oppressors, rather than just fix the balance... I mean it's potentially only a few steps away from white people being the new jews in Nazi Germany... Extreme methods are almost entirely bad things... Whether he was right about the world (or not) is a debate for another time, but I don't think that needs to be true or false to show that Killmonger is a bad person and a villain... I sympathise, sure... There are racial injustices in many places around the world... It's strong motivation... He's had to deal with the death of his father at a young age... I feel bad for him and those he is potentially championing... But any good intentions he has are outweighed by the bad ones and his extreme methods of dealing with it... That said, another great thing about him as a villain, is that he helped the hero become a better person, who plans to make stuff better for more people.
I hate it when people refer to DEVELOPING countries as third-world. Its's such an outdated relic term for dehumanising countries with developing economies and living standards. It's a very, very old colonial term to put western developed countries on a higher plateau. For more than 25 years since I discovered the term 'third-world' I've been trying to tell others rationally why 'T-W Country' is an incorrect term.
How about the part about him killing anyone that stands against Wakanda and their children? He wants to be an oppressor. You can understand his anger, but there's no question Killmonger is evil and a villian.
I agree that Monica being able to piece together the fact that Killmonger and T'Challa are cousins was impressive! Love seeing reactions on this channel❤
Just to put Killmonger's military experience into perspective, they said he joined JSOC. In real life, they are comprised of the US military's best soldiers from all branches. Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs, and even MARSOC are all Tier 2 units. JSOC units are all Tier 1, meaning they are better than all these other guys. Some JSOC operations IRL included Operation Gothic Serpent (Blackhawk Down) and Operation Neptune Spear (Assassination of Osama Bin Laden) just to name some of their missions that they get called for. In this universe, the top secret "Ghost" unit Killmonger was a part of, was tasked of taking out government figures and replacing them with puppets that can be bought or controlled so the country can be manipulated. Also, they also said that each of his scars were for each kill he had. According to the behind scenes, the make up team had to put several thousand scars on him, just as a reference point on how many he's killed.
I enjoyed your outro and hearing about why this movie is important to you and not just "it was a good movie". I'm happy Marvel is able to reach such a wide range of people and cultures in such meaningful ways. Can't wait for Infiniti War :D
I like the "They're savages" thing. At first you think he might be a racist despite working with a black dude, that can always be a matter of convenience or necessity though But then he says later on to Killmonger, "They're savages. This is what they do to people like us." Us. I just found that interesting is all, lol
There are portions of Killmonger's plan that utterly baffle me. What if someone darted him with the fluid that robs the Panther powers? He'd have no herb to fall back on. Who was supposed to carry on after him with no Panther? There are so many reasons destroying the heart-shaped herb is a bad fucking idea.
Thats the point ...he didn't care about their tradition and intentially burned it all out of spite and hatred ...he just wanted to Rule Wakanda and arm oppressed groups around the world with Wakandan tech . His plan didnt include being a Black panther and continuing the cycle but breaking it
52:19 Killmonger is referring to being from Oakland where the Black Panther party started and led revolutionary battles for independent government to help black people.
34:24 She is amazing! So smart and clever. No one in my social bubble was that almost in the cinema to notice such little details.😯 This combinatorics, you could easily work with it at state services. 😄👍
Yeees, loved this reaction, took me some time to catch up to it, but here I am! :D It's one of my favorite Marvel movies. Killmonger really is a complicated character, more of a anti-hero (?). Also Monica really do be observant af xD
They were never worried about tge outside world, they saw what others have done to other parts of Africa and they wasn't having it. The ultimate movie to give you that sense of black pride
I didn't feel black pride, it's more of togetherness. The whole world becoming one tribe. Human pride. Let go of those petty differences you have pride in.
In the end that's what t'challa was aiming for I was speaking on the rest of everyone in wakanda wanting to remain uninvolved in situations outside their land
Just a heads up... that Claue dude who steals vibranium is the same dude in Avengers age of Ultron. His hand was cut off by Ulton thats why he has a fancy fake hand.
I still don't understand one plot hole... How would killmonger defeat superheroes from outside world? There are literally class 100 heroes out there... They would have literally destroyed all the wakandian technology.
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First of all R.I.P Chadwick Boseman, Secondly WAKANDA FOREVER, Lastly thank you all for your support and love, I hope you enjoy this reaction, over then next few weeks please pay attention to the community tab, I’ll have some news/updates I’ll be posting, so if you’re not following the Instagram that’s the only place you’ll see it. Other than that Take care!
Hi. I know also that you both are Harry Potter fans so I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Harry Potter 20th Anniversary: Return to Hogwarts by HBO. You will love it! Thanks
I can’t believe you guys are here already and Infinity War is next let’s go!!!
Hey Rico, absolutely love you and Monica for this reaction and a reaction to all the MCU films so far. I have question tho: are you planning on watching the new films (half are on Disney + now) and the Marvel TV shows (also on Disney +)?
The MCU is building up to something new and I would love to see you guys continue to watch. Also wanna say the TV shows are essential viewing (esp WandaVision and Loki) and that Marvel has done a WONDERFUL job with their TV shows so far.
#recasttchalla to continue Chadwick's legacy
WF!
@@2nd3rd1st lowkey agree, Shuri’s great but we need to see more of T’Challa.... R.I.P Chadwick Boseman Wakanda Forever!!!!
“YOU WERE WRONG. ALL OF YOU WERE WRONG.”
That hit really hard. The emotion and the acting in that scene was top notch. The writing as well. Imagine having the balls to tell your forefathers AND the father you deeply respected that… they were straight up fking wrong. IMAGINE.
The Ancestral Plane scenes hit different after Chadwick’s passing. R.I.P. to a legend.
It hits so hard every time. I hope he's in a beautiful place.
@The Hollow Called White 2 I did. Yeah that hurt
Fun facts: 1 .King T'Chaka is a South African actor and the person who played the young King T'Chaka is actually his son.
2. The language they speak is Xhosa one of SA's 11 official languages.
3. The spear and shield Chadwick used in the fight for king are Zulu weapons.
4. Some of the songs they played in the background when they were in Shuri's lab is Amapiano, a music genre only found in South Africa.
5. Some of the scenes in wakanda were shot in Golden Gate Highland National Park in the Free state province.
6. Four SA actors were in the film, including Trevor Noah.
I loved my country's representation in this movie and Africa as a whole.
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@@the_judge_8262 Yeah die voorstelling was ongelooflik. Dit is tyd dat die wêreld die skoonheid van ons land sien. I hope you understand what I wrote, I'm not that great in Afrikaans.
@@oarabiletshwagong7557 don't worry, neither am I, just married into a South African family 😛
Trevor wasnt in this. Just coz he is South African and speak Xhosa, doesnt mean he was in the movie. I remember him admiring the movie, in his show.
Not Amapiano, but Gqom
When I look at the action scenes in this movie and Captain America: Civil War I’m truly amazed. Chadwick Boseman did these films while battling cancer.
Real life superhero
That does put things in prrspective. What a great guy.
He filmed Civil War a year before his diagnosis, though. But this one and the Avengers were while he was being treated for cancer.
😔
Did he do all/most of the fights or was it a double genuinely curious, still an amazing actor ofc RIP
I got chills every time with that line "Stand up, you are a king"
I physically went to the theater 5x's to see this. As a black guy, as well as a black kid into comics. We always had to imagine behind all the masks were black guys. Blade & Black Panther meant a lot to the kid inside me. With this though, Ryan Coogler understood what & how the dilema we face, as black men, feels. Killmonger & T'challa are 2 sides of the same coin. A duality of personal conflicts in many men, specifically displaced Descendants from African countries. Personally, this movie always brings emotion. Especially Killmomgers' last dialogue. Btw, I'm 49.
Killmonger's last line was from Chadwick Boseman, I believe, not Ryan Coogler. Kevin Fiege fought to keep it in the film.
also, let's give an honorable mention to spawn.
To me this is the best MCU film...and I'm not black. Chadwick and Michael B Jordan brought that power. I also liked the difference in perspective between Wakanda and Killmonger. I really believe this movie is about the transformation of Wakanda. The three scenes in the ancestral realm really highlight the trajectory: Reverence of Wakanda followed by the issue and then the utter denial. Great film.
@@JSSTyger as an African I applaud the director. He represented our diverse cultures very well whilst tackling the complex issues of colonisation & racism well. Would love to see more onsight filming though, African has beautiful landscapes wildlife.
Can’t wait to see mahershala Ali play blade so dope
Idk if you guys remember but Klaue is the one who provided Ultron with the vibranium he needed to make a new body and Vision (in Age of Ultron). In that same scene Ultron cut off Klaue’s arm bc he said Ultron reminded him of Tony stark.
That’s why Klaue has that vibranium prosthetic/canon on his arm in this movie
big props
I thought he looked familiar, completely forgot he was in Age of Ultron
@@ButtToucher99 This might be well-known, but it's worth repeating just for the illustration of Andy Serkis' incredible versatility and talent; Klaue is also Gollum. The difference in body language between the two characters alone is breathtaking.
it was nice to also, get a futurized version of things that actually have an African or tribal feel to them. we constantly get either a grungy future punk aesthetic or a minimalist, mute, and overall sterile look to things. the closer you get to bigger cities the more obscure the customs and cultural sense of things become. and sure countries try to change that with some them of nationalism where the flag of said country is worked into clothing. but rarely is it something that has a big cultural significance. but in this film, we see the styles of the tribes and for once it's not portrayed as something primitive.
That's what I love about this interpretation of wakanda, you pu it into words beautifully
@@Nadie47 thanks for the positive comment. you really put a smile on my face. as we all know how rare it is to share your thoughts and to actually get positive feedback or people agreeing with the sentiment to such a degree. may you continue to shine light on others.
As someone who is both native American (Choctaw) and Irish, I believe that we should learn our history and embrace it (at least as far as is morally right). I love the richness and vibrance of various cultures and hate the idea of all of that culture being lost to the pages of history.
@@Aliensdontwearsocks exactly. there is a sense of legacy in culture. in Virginia I've seen my fair number of civil war renacments. but it would be nice if we had something like that for people of distinct cultures. how much richer would history and diversity be if we got to see what made us different and where we are similar. look at greek Tragedies along with their pantheon of gods.
Ask most people in the world if they know who Zeus is and they'll say yes to a certain extent but what do we know about the the cultures of the native Americans?! the fact that they were confused with people from India for so long is criminal. now I'm trying to imagine how badass futuristic native American would have shaped the landscape and how it would also be reflected in their clothing and jewelry.
@@aristothethrone9032 My grandfather traced our genealogy back to the 1100's. I have royals and rebels, chieftains and outlaws all represented in my blood. It's strange to think of but I wonder how it impacts my thought processes and such. I'm also 4th generation military and very much believe in a smaller govt and more individual freedoms. I wonder how much of that fiercely independent streak came from my forbears. I once asked my dad why he never claimed any of the money available to him through the tribe and he said "I don't deserve any special breaks just for being born". That always stuck with me and is something that I've strived to pass on to my kids as part of their mindset. Understanding the legacy and (more importantly) the mindset of the men and women who came before us can give us a much deeper understanding of ourselves
"The wise build bridges, the foolish build barriers"
King T'Challa.
I feel like Monica would be both amazing and horrible to watch movies with :P Amazing because her reactions are so funny sometimes, and horrible because she's SO DAMN GOOD at guessing!
Seriously. Y'all should watch some mind-bender movies and see how she does... stuff like Mememto, or Basic, or The Sixth Sense.
it's not guessing, she is watching the movie paying attention to details & thinking critically about what's happening/beeing said
@@Redbeedrill If anything, I'd be playfully annoyed at Rico for his shitty poker faces during the guesses and the hesitant small little spoilers because he's watched the movie already. Smh, Rico..
@@Naruto31132 He could’ve played off the cousin thing better. I would’ve said, ‘a cousin?’ Then shrugged and continued watching. His reaction is what confirmed it for her instead of the movie.
What funny reactions
The scarring killmonger has is an actual practice for boys becoming men in a specific African tribe (I forget it’s name)
To create those bumps you cut yourself and then flood the wound with cold water so that it rises and swells and heals like that.
It’s done in quite a few tribes all across Africa, actually.
@@witdajuice6763 Not just in Africa, I think. Ritual scarification, or, as one might think of it, the deliberate cultivation of scar tissue, occurs in a lot of cultures. It makes sense, as it's a method of permanently marking the body that is relatively safe, doesn't compromise function, and can be done with minimal tech and materials.
I hear ya on all that & agree with @RicoPresents. This movie got me to work in film. And if I'm not mistaken the mask Killmonger picked up was the tribe of people that he was referencing who jumped off the ship when they were sent to slavery. Ryan Coogler and others who worked on this project did really well with this film! R.I.P. Chadwick Boseman.
Monica just knows storytelling so well. She can pick up on where a story is going so easily. I wish I could do that. It's a unique talent.
This was a good film indeed. I can't watch this and not cry at the ancestral plane scene because it always reminds me of a dream I had with my late grandfather visiting me from Heaven. I told him how sorry I was for not being there to say goodbye, but he simply smiled and hugged me while telling me that he'll always love and watch me no matter what. I watched him walk up the stairs to Heaven before waking up with tears rolling down my face. When I heard Chadwick passed away, it took me a bit to process. He will always be, to me, the true king of Wakanda and the one true Black Panther. I hope for the next Black Panther film, they will do all they can to honor Chadwick's memory. WAKANDA FOREVER!
What a beautiful story. Thanks for sharing
@@liamzeyle4283 Thank you. I'm sure he and my grandmother and other grandfather are with him watching over us.
Your dream is something that of a spiritual experience. I would look into that. You have a gift.
The actors in this movie are so awesome! I loved this movie. They all deserve a grammy. RIP Chadwick
Monica quickly piecing things together is hoootttttttt lol. Also at the end when Killmonger says his pops told him Wakanda was the most beautiful thing he saw and he's crying in pain, I just want to hold him.
Monica is a very smart girl, she spots things a lot of people miss. I saw that the first video reaction i watched of you guys. Her intuition is very good, you should listen to her if she has gut feelings.
Can't lie Rico I could listen to your thoughts on this movie for a whole day and this is coming from a guy who literally clicks of the video as soon as you guys watch the post credit scenes , I just find it so fascinating of what you were saying and I never even realized that T'challa was surrounded by empowered women it's so great to notice things from other people's perspectives because it shows how much you can still learn no matter your age. Also the video was as great as always and I wish you and Monica a very happy new year 😊
Great reaction. On the topic of Killmonger not doing anything wrong, he is complex man but there is enough there to give us villain-esque attributes:
a) For starters, destroying any scope for succession/having no Wakandan succession plan by burning all of the herb was silly - at the very least shows disdain for the traditions he so vehemently wants to be a part of.
b) Even his "let's arm the War Dogs" plan was downright baseless in terms of geography - like Hong Kong which is hardly an outpost of black oppression ever and particularly not now, was one of the first targets.
He's a phenomenal character but I genuinely think there are limits to supporting his agenda that are often ignored.
Yeah its pretty dumb. Aside from his murder of innocent people at the museum, the notion that black people are one group who would use the weapons against their 'oppressors' in reality there's lots of black people who would love nothing more than to use high-tech weapons on other black people. Already seen people in the comments saying they couldn't see anything wrong with his plan.
@@30noir Yea and what about the countless African tribes oppressing eachother. He would obviously pick a side. Oppressing people is not a feature relegated to one skin color, but human nature due to our tribalism tendencies. It's why T'challa has it right and just help everyone.
But even after all that he makes you feel sorry for him. Of course when I first heard he was playing the villain in Black Panther I only knew him as 'Wallace' from 'The Wire' and I just kept on thinking 'Don't hurt him, he doesn't know what he's doing'. I'm still devoted to Michael B Jordan of course but Chadwick definitely won my heart throughout the movie.
Honestly I’d say he’s more of a anti villain kinda like how venom is a anti hero
To be fair, I think part of what makes a villain a villain is that even if their motives are good, their plan is flawed and the ends don't justify the means. Like Thanos cutting the population in half instead of doubling the resources. But you're right, he's still an amazing character.
Monica is smart AF, that call on Erik's ring was next level awareness, bravo
T'challa & Killmonger are basically a comic book characterization of Martin Luther King & Malcolm X. Story creator Stan Lee saw first hand the inception of the civil rights movement from the 50's through the 70's and intentionally wove it into the fabric of the comics. Who's bad, who's good? YOU decide.
That’s how he created the X-Men too. They had the same idea of wanting more for their people, but didn’t agree in how it should be done.
@@nate8604 All false. Stan Lee has said multiple times that he didn't make those comics to be some parallel of our world. That only ever came up when Marvel was taken over by ideologues, and he had no involvement outside of cameos till his death.
The reason why I personally think killmonger is a villain while at the same time a victim is his intent, his intent to spread war and bloodshed throughout the world was evil ( had to clarify due to people here with smooth brains ). However he isn’t a bad guy in that aspect as he’s reasons are vaild, based on everything he experienced, still a bad boy for feeling angry and vengeful, But this move was very much humanized in many scenes which made it feel different and more personal to people, very well made movie with a fantastic cast and fantastic character development and scenery to add. As a side note Chadwick will never be dead as long as people remember and enjoy his works as an actor and as a person, he is BLACK PANTHER now and forever
Not exactly the point here but I'm also hoping that Chadwick's death won't be in vain and will encourage not only more black superheroes in movies, but that it'll also encourage more young people to get a colonoscopy earlier in life rather than just waiting till they reach their 40s.
@@agenttheater5 well it kinda does I mean his msg at the end was that basically people stop the hate an look out for eachother so in a way if you believe that someone is not acting or feeling right then I guess you could take as a point to help them out
It's in the name "killmonger" that he's a villain. It's fine to dislike oppression. But most black people aren't being oppressed today. It's all down to american media trying to racebait over the few incidents that will inevitably occur between a black and white person. It's not like whites don't kill themselves, or blacks don't kill themselves. They're not exactly reporting on all the times a cop has killed a unarmed white guy. Or when a black person kills a white person as if that was racially motivated. As if white people should all riot over it.
It's a minority of the population. Wanting to start a world war because you hate people who aren't even hurting you doesn't make you the good guy at all. Wanna repeat ww2?
@@DlcEnergy so that’s what you took out of it huh why doesn’t that surprise me.
@@DlcEnergy what the fuck are you on? Seriously here you are trying to claim that I said some sort of pigshit when in reality you missed the entire point of his intentions make him a villain but of course we have a try hard wannabe super hero here who takes shit out of context and spins it to his own narrative.
Let be dumb it down for your sensitive ass, his idea of wiping out everyone who doesn’t stand with him ( black white or any other ) all around the world makes him a villain, him feeling pissed and angry makes him human.
The fact that you can’t seem to tell the difference between such things just show how easily triggered you are, while spinning things you don’t understand to fit your narrative just proves that. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between emotion and intention clearly shows you’re only here just to start a fight
I cried again watching this, several times. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your reaction.
@53:20, When I saw Angela Basset as Queen Ramonda with that snow white hair it hurt.
I always felt that Angela should have played Storm in the original X-Men movies. She would have been lit as Storm.
This film pleased me in ways I never expected and cannot comprehend; but I am proud of everyone in this picture, and this story.
I love watching these partly because of how smart Monica is and how accurate her predictions are hahahaha
Monica doesn't see. She observes. 🤣🕵🏻♀️ Great reaction as always!
Killmonger is more of an antagonist than a villain. Clearly, his tactics are wrong but you can understand how he got there. And his final line in the film is perfection.
Can we even say he's wrong? Given the tremendous, acute, and ongoing oppression and injustice he's attempting to stop, very hard to say that almost any method isn't justified. Very deliberate MLK v X vibes here, as was also done in the Xavier v Magneto debate in X-Men.
When Killmonger was giving his speech about giving the racialized oppressed weapons that they might kill and overthrow those in power, all I could think was, "Well, fair enough, really". As you sow, so must you expect to reap.
And, frankly, how likely is it that the new rulers would do a worse job than the old? Not to bring in bitter reality, but we're 8 years at the outside from locking-in a climate regime that will, in all likelihood, shred our society to the base of the concept, and that's just one of several ongoing, accelerating, and, increasingly, mutually-supporting existential crises for human civilization as we know it. Have you seen "Don't Look Up"? If anything, it describes a rosier situation than our current one, and treats it with an over-abundance of optimism. Further explanation available upon request, but I wouldn't recommend it if you're trying to have a peaceful day.
rico what i loved about this movie is that black people from america africa and england all came together to make a memorable and extremly important film for black people all over the world
When I watched this show and saw M'Baku (Winston Duke) I was glad ,as a Trinidadian {Trinbagonian}, to see someone represent my country of Trinidad and Tobago. {btw he is Tobagonian, not born on the same island as me but we are from the same country}.
I live in Atlanta where a lot of this was filmed. The “Museum of Great Britain” is actually The High Museum in the Midtown area of our city.
TCHALA is the wealthiest character in comics he is worth 90 trillion dollars
You guys stressed it, but it is extremely rare to have a story in which there is no villain. KM's story is relatable on many levels, especially considering racial injustices common in America. He had no path to the throne unless it was forged by his own hand. And he presented himself with honor and respect when he finally got there (all things considered). His methods were problematic, but the message behind it was not invalid. This movie truly showed the meaning of having heroes.
this movie hits so different now that Chadwick is gone. loved the movie before, but this is the first time watching it since his death and i'm already tearing up 15 minutes in
YES!!!!!!!!! RICO and MONICA BACK AT IT AGAIN!!!!!
Witness the might of the Jabari, FIRST HAND! - One of the most underrated entrances in MCU history imo. So sick.. I love MBaku
Daaaamn Monica is quick. She pays attention to the littlest of details. Bravo. Standing ovation..... bravo. She's so good.
Yeah, like I never saw any reactor who figurout that Quick that Killmonger is T'chala cousin
@@toamszkozak8822 *cousin but I know what you meant
@@ZandrickKrowe oh yeah cousin, I don't know why I said "brother
impressed she figured out the cousin thing so quickly 🙂 glad she’s starting to pay more attention, now that she’s seen how easter eggs and little things are important in the mcu. frustrated me in earlier reactions when she’d be confused and start asking about things they had literally talked about or showed earlier in the film. glad she’s finding those mcu eyes and ears 😃
@12:44, fun fact the color schemes of the major Wakandan tribes matches the colors of African-American fraternities and sororities.
As an HBCU grad I found it to be a nice homage.
That's freakin' awesome. I'm pretty sure that *everything* is A Thing(tm) in this movie, and I love it.
It's actually from actual African tribes like the Masai, Xhosa,ndebele, Zulu and so many more
@@Iletyoulive Maybe it is. But nothing you said negates what I said.
@@technopirate304 that's literally what the costume designer said and yea it negates what you said
@@Iletyoulive I never said the color schemes were not from African tribes. I simply said they match African American fraternities and sororities. SMH.
Just because the designer had one thing in mind doesn’t mean another happy coincidence can’t occur. Sometimes a thing can literally be two separate positions at once. Good grief
I vividly remember the first time I realized how important representation was in film. I went to see The Force Awakens in IMAX. Got out of it at the same time a showing of Concussion in the next theater, a movie that received mediocre reception. But I saw nothing but black people, including older ones in pretty nice clothes, coming out of Concussion. Then this movie comes out, and all of my black friends, even ones who weren't fans of Marvel or superhero movies in general, posting about going to see it, some dressed in traditional African garb. I love comic books and support hero movies, and I love every opportunity to talk to others about it. More representation like this means more people to geek out with, and I'm all for it.
Aww you two are great! I'm a huge fan of your reactions. Monica reminds me of my late bestie, she's extremely observant, funny and her facial expressions crack me up! Rico reminds me of my nephew how excited he gets. I saw you during Ragnorok girl lol. Thank you guys for this particular reaction, it felt like watching with family and I understand all Ricos emotions regarding this movie because its huge! Its such a vibe to see black people portrayed in this way, fictional or not it was aspirational. The last MCU movie I saw with my friend was Civil War she didn't get to see this and she would have loved it.
Chadwick is from my hometown (Anderson, South Carolina) & has done so much for the kids & local communities down here. Wakanda Forever, My King 🤴🏿
The marks on Killmongers body are scars. He put nothing under his skin. It’s called crocodile scarring.
This film is tied with some of my favorites, it's memorable and resonates with me so much
Gonna need this Infinityy War reaction asap Rico! Love the videos as always.
My favorite from you guys so far. Very emotional movie for me also 🖤. Black Panther 2 is my most anticipated movie for 2022!! W A K A N D A forever!
When I saw this in the theater for the first time it was very well done and just the whole culturally effect it has is amazing. & I get all your guys points
So excited for the next movie: INFINITY WAR.
Man Rico I followed u on your MCU journey months ago but I must say your editing is elite!!!
Thank you for the reaction. Love this one! You guys are so great!
Killmonger is totally a villain and a bad person... He's not entirely unjustified, which makes him an interesting and cool villain, but he's pretty clearly motivated by spite, revenge and possibly a bit of a lust for power too... I mean, why else would he try to make it so no one could challenge him later? He used their challenge system as a way to get into power, but if he were truly honourable, why wouldn't he then be happy to take T'challa's challenge when he returned? He didn't have to necessarily, but arguably that would be the honourable thing to do... Plus he beat him once already... To be fair though, it might be smart of him not to engage him if he didn't have to... But yeah, he's a good character, but a bad person... And even worse if, as it seems, he was specifically planning to make black people the oppressors, rather than just fix the balance... I mean it's potentially only a few steps away from white people being the new jews in Nazi Germany... Extreme methods are almost entirely bad things...
Whether he was right about the world (or not) is a debate for another time, but I don't think that needs to be true or false to show that Killmonger is a bad person and a villain... I sympathise, sure... There are racial injustices in many places around the world... It's strong motivation... He's had to deal with the death of his father at a young age... I feel bad for him and those he is potentially championing... But any good intentions he has are outweighed by the bad ones and his extreme methods of dealing with it... That said, another great thing about him as a villain, is that he helped the hero become a better person, who plans to make stuff better for more people.
The actor portraying "young" King T'Chaka is the real-life son of the actor playing "older" King T'Chaka.
I agree 100% Rico with your commentary at the end. Many of us cried.
At this point in the movie, I like to quote a certain other character in the MCU and say “The truth is… I am Black Panther.”
I hate it when people refer to DEVELOPING countries as third-world. Its's such an outdated relic term for dehumanising countries with developing economies and living standards. It's a very, very old colonial term to put western developed countries on a higher plateau. For more than 25 years since I discovered the term 'third-world' I've been trying to tell others rationally why 'T-W Country' is an incorrect term.
Happy New Year! I've been waiting for this one.
How about the part about him killing anyone that stands against Wakanda and their children? He wants to be an oppressor. You can understand his anger, but there's no question Killmonger is evil and a villian.
25:09 this part just hits so hard with the music sigh R.I.P Chadwick Boseman WAKANDA FOREVER
I mean he did throw Ta’challa off of the water fall, he didn’t have to do that 😂
I agree that Monica being able to piece together the fact that Killmonger and T'Challa are cousins was impressive! Love seeing reactions on this channel❤
46:16 To paraphrase Christopher Walken in the famous SNL sketch "I gotta have more hand-rubbing"
“Block Pawnfuh” - British folk
😂😂😂
This movie is and will always be a masterpiece 🔥⚔️ RIP Chadwick, wakanda forever
Love you guys, gonna join your patreon at some point, keep doing what you're doing!!!
Just to put Killmonger's military experience into perspective, they said he joined JSOC. In real life, they are comprised of the US military's best soldiers from all branches. Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs, and even MARSOC are all Tier 2 units. JSOC units are all Tier 1, meaning they are better than all these other guys. Some JSOC operations IRL included Operation Gothic Serpent (Blackhawk Down) and Operation Neptune Spear (Assassination of Osama Bin Laden) just to name some of their missions that they get called for. In this universe, the top secret "Ghost" unit Killmonger was a part of, was tasked of taking out government figures and replacing them with puppets that can be bought or controlled so the country can be manipulated. Also, they also said that each of his scars were for each kill he had. According to the behind scenes, the make up team had to put several thousand scars on him, just as a reference point on how many he's killed.
Killmonger is my favorite villain of the MCU. Mainly because he had a point.
I enjoyed your outro and hearing about why this movie is important to you and not just "it was a good movie". I'm happy Marvel is able to reach such a wide range of people and cultures in such meaningful ways. Can't wait for Infiniti War :D
I like the "They're savages" thing. At first you think he might be a racist despite working with a black dude, that can always be a matter of convenience or necessity though
But then he says later on to Killmonger, "They're savages. This is what they do to people like us." Us. I just found that interesting is all, lol
always love getting to watch Bilbo and Smeagol have a couple of one on one chats
They are the Tolkien white guys in this film
@@scottalynch ...goddammit
There are portions of Killmonger's plan that utterly baffle me. What if someone darted him with the fluid that robs the Panther powers? He'd have no herb to fall back on. Who was supposed to carry on after him with no Panther? There are so many reasons destroying the heart-shaped herb is a bad fucking idea.
Thats the point ...he didn't care about their tradition and intentially burned it all out of spite and hatred ...he just wanted to Rule Wakanda and arm oppressed groups around the world with Wakandan tech . His plan didnt include being a Black panther and continuing the cycle but breaking it
Minnal murali is a trending superhero movie now in India and other countries ❤️
The sunsets in Wakanda are the most beautiful in the world......
Jamaica has just entered the chat......
One of the best meme's I saw come out of this:
Who's your favorite Disney Princes? Shuri.
I’m loving the consistent uploads
Monica is bloody smart.
Just found out I have covid so I’m gonna be inside for a min and you guys dropped this banger
52:19 Killmonger is referring to being from Oakland where the Black Panther party started and led revolutionary battles for independent government to help black people.
Been looking for to use reaction to this 😂
im calling it, that kid at the end is gonna be the main character of black panther 2
Claus has that hand because ultron cut off his in the Avengers movie. It’s built with vibranium.
Ulysses Klaue 😁
I look forward to these MCU reactions every Monday.
R.I.P. Chadwick Boseman The King, the Legend...Wakanda 4ever
Anger and revenge with no purpose is just madness
I love this film Rest In Peace Chadwick
Great reactions as always guys!
You guys are great. I just love ur reactions.
Monica is scary sometimes. Figuring out who that is so quickly from a glimpse of a ring around a necklace. Wow.
This movie was so awesome that all people could complain about was the CGI at the end.
34:24 She is amazing! So smart and clever. No one in my social bubble was that almost in the cinema to notice such little details.😯
This combinatorics, you could easily work with it at state services. 😄👍
They are 100 years ahead of the rest of the world
(At 6:00) Man when they meet this movie they actually made the African pirates… right by the details.
Yeees, loved this reaction, took me some time to catch up to it, but here I am! :D It's one of my favorite Marvel movies. Killmonger really is a complicated character, more of a anti-hero (?). Also Monica really do be observant af xD
They were never worried about tge outside world, they saw what others have done to other parts of Africa and they wasn't having it. The ultimate movie to give you that sense of black pride
I didn't feel black pride, it's more of togetherness. The whole world becoming one tribe. Human pride. Let go of those petty differences you have pride in.
In the end that's what t'challa was aiming for I was speaking on the rest of everyone in wakanda wanting to remain uninvolved in situations outside their land
rico the 2 actors who played t'challa dad old and young are father and son in real life
This is my new comfort channel.
Just a heads up... that Claue dude who steals vibranium is the same dude in Avengers age of Ultron. His hand was cut off by Ulton thats why he has a fancy fake hand.
I still don't understand one plot hole... How would killmonger defeat superheroes from outside world? There are literally class 100 heroes out there... They would have literally destroyed all the wakandian technology.
The plant life was also effected by the radiation of the vibranium meteorite ) as it said effecting the plant and animal life around it)
YESSSSSS!!!
I've missed you two! 🖤
Erik Killmonger had a point, and had good reason to be angry with the world.