Off-road Forester build overview | the ultimate utilitarian Subaru battlewagon

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @powerofyourbrains
    @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад +15

    BIG NEWS - Torq-Masters is coming out with the first affordable SUBARU R160 LOCKER ever (thats the rear diff, not the center). These bad boys are scheduled to hit the market this summer for just $400, but we'll be getting some prototypes in soon to test and review! We're looking forward to seeing how they perform both on-road and off-road. Check out our social medias for more info, and subscribe/follow for install and testing updates as stuff happens.

  • @AWDfreak
    @AWDfreak 5 лет назад +4

    Out of all those protective modifications, that fuel tank skid plate at 9:37 is the one thing almost nobody does with Subaru vehicles that are taken off-road. Glad to see you're the first I've seen to do that, thanks for directing me here and keep up the great content!

  • @kentuckywindage222
    @kentuckywindage222 4 года назад +3

    Great breakdown of your rig. You guy's were just a tad ahead of the Subaru boom. I think now is your time guy's.

  • @michalahclopton9970
    @michalahclopton9970 Год назад

    So you have become my fav person on RUclips. I have the same forester with a lot of the same mods. So cool my guy.

  • @Livinglethallife
    @Livinglethallife 2 года назад

    I just found this channel and I am so hype. Love the content!

  • @jasonchall3766
    @jasonchall3766 6 лет назад +4

    Correction: No spacer required up front to clear tires, though a 15mm at the rear is required. Additional spacer thickness is required (5mm+ front) to run tire chains, which as we discovered, make a damn good backup plan. This is all based on OEM 15" steel wheels, which you probably can do better than, as I've bent (laterally) pretty much all of mine, a bit, across 2 Subarus.

  • @johnstrand2247
    @johnstrand2247 5 лет назад +3

    Great job! Lifted my Outback but think we should have done it to my wife's ForesterXT instead.

  • @rebel9838
    @rebel9838 5 лет назад +1

    He was talking about mandrel bends in the exhaust for better flow, but then show's it and it's all flattened out from rocks lol

  • @jasonchall3766
    @jasonchall3766 6 лет назад +5

    My thoughts on the winch have evolved a bit after spending way too many nights trying to get out of ”down in a hole". On the one hand, tire chains were ultimately the answer, and I'll be sure to carry and have clearance for them in the future, but, on the other, when we were trying to winch long distances, I did wish for a more more powerful winch that would have gotten us out of there a lot faster without having to worry about overheating the motor. This is my second motor in the winch as the first, the circuit board with the brush holders warped from heat. That was when the winch was at the rear with a power pole connector and probably getting weak Voltage, which leads to more current and more heat. I cheated out a little bit on the synthetic winch line, which I wish I hadn't as it broke twice on me during said recovery, though that may have been due to the angle it is constantly running across the fairlead, which I am planning to fix before our next outing, as well as providing a central attachment point to use during double line pulls. Also, the "freewheel" on this winch isn't so "free" which cost us a fair bit of time as we often ended up powering out the line. Probably this winch will move to the rear again and something much beefier will go up front, though this was totally adequate for every other use we've out it too and much lighter than the alternatives. Oh, but only having a 50' pull left us resetting a lot, which was a pain. The extension strap is also a pain as there's no good way to take out the slack and make the most of the pull you do have, though you can tie (and untie) knots if you use a figure eight, but that's a bit tedious.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Well said. It is the perfect winch for most people, just not for people like us who tend to make frequent and deliberate decisions which end in winching.

  • @AWDfreak
    @AWDfreak 5 лет назад

    7:11 is proof that driving a unibody vehicle under extremely harsh conditions that significantly stress the structure necessitates chassis bracing. I'm glad that my decision to bolt on several chassis bracing products from Cusco Japan has some merit to it regarding off-road driving a unibody car such as the modern crossover vehicle.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад +1

      Strut brace is a must, and we don't know why we waited so long for rocker guards...they're amazing. In all fairness, if you watch our watch enough of our adventure videos you'll see that we really push these cars, as if it's our intention to see what breaks.

  • @cbishop41483
    @cbishop41483 6 лет назад +3

    This thing is sick, im still in love with jeeps tho, so much fun to smash around on trails (responsibly)!

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      Totally understand that, Jeeps are great. Although Foresters can be made to be capable off-road, they are really a value proposition at heart. Condition being held equal, I estimate that one could obtain approximately 2.5 Foresters per Jeep

    • @libertylovin2359
      @libertylovin2359 4 года назад

      @@powerofyourbrains Not where I live, Foresters are twice as much as Jeeps.

  • @cardoc9667
    @cardoc9667 5 лет назад +3

    Cool, you can also do this with my lift kit.

  • @jasonchall3766
    @jasonchall3766 6 лет назад +1

    Some of the exact parts used, to expand on what Power of your brains has in the description:
    Strut inserts: Koni 8610-1408SPORT
    Header: Described as HD-9805SRS CNT EL 98-05 Subaru Impreza RS Header with flow Cat when I bought it. Can't find it on their website now though.
    Front lift spacers: www.sjrlift.com/index.php/catalog/lift-kits/0-2-lift-kit-2000-front-only-detail
    Winch rope, not sure I'd recommend it though, as it broke twice on us, though it does pull across the fairlead at constantly due to the angle the winch is mounted on: tuffstuff4x4.com/products/grey-utv-atv-synthetic-winch-rope-with-rock-guard-50-long/

  • @Tinker1837
    @Tinker1837 6 лет назад +2

    Nice breakdown! I'm digging the build, looking forward to seeing more of it in action :)

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks! We have more info on the diff setup coming up really soon, and we're taking it back out to the hole this weekend. Wish I could live-stream it, but it's in the middle of nowhere and probably there'd be too much cursing and dirty jokes anyway

    • @Tinker1837
      @Tinker1837 6 лет назад

      Cool, definitely going to have to check that out. I'll be needing something similar here soon I think. Open diffs... boo! Yeah I understand that, as much as I enjoy laughing along with it, youtube seems unfriendly to anything non-PG.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      The vlsd is nice, you'll see an upload for that shortly as well, but the next video is about a must-do mod that is almost free ;)

    • @Tinker1837
      @Tinker1837 6 лет назад

      Oooo those are my favorite mods haha

  • @jasonchall3766
    @jasonchall3766 6 лет назад

    Regarding the Rockler dust collection fittings: can't fully recommend those as they have a sharp ridge on the inside of the bends (even the 45s), as if the holes were bored out. They are not at all like mandrel bends, though you can fix them up if you're willing to spend some time with a die grinder and a bur or rasp.

  • @castrofofo
    @castrofofo 6 лет назад +4

    Here in Costa Rica we have imprezas and foresters with the low range gearbox, have you considered importing one? I hear really low rpms there

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Rodolfo Castro Have not, but thats actually not a bad idea at all

    • @castrofofo
      @castrofofo 6 лет назад +1

      www.jdmengineinc.com/details/388/subaru/99-00-01-02-03-04-jdm-subaru-forester-outback-5-speed-4-111-manual-transmission-ty755xs2aa.html#prettyPhoto

    • @castrofofo
      @castrofofo 6 лет назад

      I found one!, Code must be TY755XS2AA, thats the one with low range, that one is actually in the US

    • @castrofofo
      @castrofofo 6 лет назад +1

      Low range is cable operated, you can see it at the side of the trans, you have to figure out a lever for that, originally its placed near the handbrake, but i'm sure you will figure that out.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      Very interesting, thanks man. We may confer on this potential investment. We'd have to change the rear diff ratio as well, but it could be worth it

  • @_Epictetus_
    @_Epictetus_ 3 года назад +1

    I still don't understand how you built the long travel suspension. Would really like to attempt this, I don't have $3700 to buy long travel from adf

  • @subarutime5089
    @subarutime5089 6 лет назад +6

    Subbed in the first 10 sec

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      Awesome, we're happy to have you! More mod vids to come

  • @AB-nb2ic
    @AB-nb2ic 6 лет назад

    Thank You!!! Bout to get started on a Forester off road build. This vid is a huge help!

  • @deputydog640
    @deputydog640 6 лет назад +3

    I have a 2009 Forester with the 4EAT and I can't find any good info on an LSD for the front or back. I really look forward to a video on how you did yours.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      It's in the works, we're looking forward to putting it out asap, and will likely be the next upload. I will say that the front on ours is still open, and I'm not really sure how easy it would be to swap in one from an STi. The rear bolts right in I believe, and can be sourced from many different models, but I'll have to check to see if we have any resources on which ones. The locking center was definitely the most involved, but easy enough to put together. We plan to cover all that in the video. Thanks for watching!

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      Google It Check out the recent upload on how to do the locking center if you haven't already

    • @jmoore9806
      @jmoore9806 6 лет назад

      Power of your brains time to learn how to drive a manual...that way u dont have to wait until someone decides to build a good aftermarket diff for the auto box

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      I've always driven manuals. Auto is better and easier in this application because we wouldn't buy that stuff anyway

  • @aadisamaroo8978
    @aadisamaroo8978 4 года назад

    would love to see more offroad vids

  • @henrym1854
    @henrym1854 4 года назад +1

    This is awesome! What axles are you running ?

  • @gabemiller9873
    @gabemiller9873 6 лет назад +2

    This is a really cool build!! But I've done all the trails at trollhaugen in my stock hight 98 fozzy with snow tires lol you need welded rear diff ;) pictures to prove it

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +2

      Thats a last resort. VLSD works pretty well, but we'd like to orchestrate a locker setup

    • @zacjohnson8404
      @zacjohnson8404 5 лет назад +1

      let's see those pics then

  • @torreVs
    @torreVs 6 лет назад

    Nice car. "Off roading" cookies, danish recipe, are a good reward, even after an exciting afternoon in middle of desolate mountain. Ondo izan,

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you, and I fully echo your sentiment regarding cookies. They are an offroading reward, and a valuable source of energy should you find yourself stranded atop a desolate mountain

  • @RTONYO
    @RTONYO 2 года назад

    Where did you get bumper’s and how much?

  • @Dreekol15
    @Dreekol15 6 лет назад +1

    Keep the great content coming!Wonder if this mod would work on my '17 xv.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      Andres Velasco I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Thanks, dropping an lsd..video very soon

  • @bramshobbyshop757
    @bramshobbyshop757 6 лет назад

    Definitely my rear bumper mount was rusty but not that bad lol.

  • @codybrock3855
    @codybrock3855 6 лет назад

    Brilliant build
    Really dig this

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks! Our latest project in progress takes the lessons learned over time from this build into a fresh new chassis. We'll have both of course, but make sure to follow to see us do it right from the start this time

  • @jasonchall3766
    @jasonchall3766 6 лет назад +1

    Some pics to further illustrate some points in this vids:
    Lift: photos.app.goo.gl/ufTOhcd2hAbP1alP2
    Exhaust: photos.app.goo.gl/zCVaXMYjBgcX2UjQ2
    Snorkel: photos.app.goo.gl/VhNDzKbI4oZIssIL2
    Front bumper: photos.app.goo.gl/mGOEJV9kRHrqU27j2
    Torque biasing center diff swap: photos.app.goo.gl/2ymXfflvnP1sPCGr2
    Rear LSD swap: photos.app.goo.gl/loSapj1nrtAuTTtL2

    • @chaysendreamz
      @chaysendreamz Год назад +1

      Thank You Jason!!!!! I’ve been scouring these comments to find more info on the custom rear housings you built. I bend mine every time I put new ones in and romp on it. I’ve been meaning to build some just like yours, expect with a 2.5 lift integrated into them. Hopefully no more bent struts for me. Bent em super bad on 2021 Gambler 500.

    • @jasonchall3766
      @jasonchall3766 Год назад

      @@chaysendreamz If you're interested (and local) Granny may be coming up for sale soon. We just haven't been able to give her the attention she deserves lately.

  • @vincentwindels3752
    @vincentwindels3752 5 лет назад

    Just watched this video again and looked at the Koni inserts, but can't find the shaft length that gives you more wheel travel. Any info on that ?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      Monroe has a nice catalog and areas of their website that give pretty detailed dimensions for all of the shocks they sell. Check that out. Think that's how we figured out that the GC Impreza shocks gave the most travel

    • @vincentwindels3752
      @vincentwindels3752 5 лет назад

      @@powerofyourbrains I had a look at the Monroe catalog but none of the strut inserts seem to give more travel than normal struts....or maybe haven't I looked accurately.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      @@vincentwindels3752 Got any more information, like what vehicle you're looking to get them for? The inserts are OEM replacements intended for an Impreza, but we use them in our forester because they have more travel than OEM forester shocks. Cross-compatibility is what you're looking for - hope that helps.

  • @hecanseeme8210
    @hecanseeme8210 4 года назад

    Go Michigan. Are you anywhere near TC btw. We have a local shop call Subaru Guys kinda wondering if you are with them.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  4 года назад

      One of us is from Michigan originally...can't remember where from exactly, but we're in WV now. No affiliation, but we did just get our own shop here

  • @ClintR2
    @ClintR2 5 лет назад

    I see you are running stock rims with 235’s. Do you have any back spacing with it?
    I am wanting to put same size on my 01 Forester. 2 3/8 lift front and rear and 2 inch trailing arm spacers with stock rims.
    I am sure I will have to have wheel spacers.
    Do you know what size I might need?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      I'm sorry but I do not. For a long time this car did not have a lift, and such a setup would have interfered with the fender. There's probably a sweet spot somewhere around 0.5 inches that will allow it to work with your lift, but I'm not certain. More importantly, do you also have your subframe spaced? Because unless you have adjustable trailing arms you're gonna need it.

    • @ClintR2
      @ClintR2 5 лет назад

      I do not have a subframe lift or adjustable trailing arms. Mine is a weekend adventure vehicle.
      So if I need to hammer on some fenders I am ok with it.
      So you are suggesting .5 inch spacers?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      @@ClintR2 No, that was a guess. I'd recommend a bit more research honestly. I don't want to steer you wrong because it still might not be enough. You may need ro use SG struts too.

  • @jmoore9806
    @jmoore9806 6 лет назад

    Hmmm seeing how well the Subaru's do so well off road makes me think that Audi could do it to because they shear the same viscous center differential... but I think Audi might bottom out more because they dont have that high chassis clearance

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      This car has a viscous rear, but since it is automatic, the center is actually a clutch pack, which is how we are able to lock it up. I do not know much about Audi, but I can imagine the most significant difference between the two would be the cost to repair our dumb decisions

  • @03legacygt
    @03legacygt 3 года назад

    3:02 that muffler... lol

  • @xthexadvantagex
    @xthexadvantagex 5 лет назад

    Looking for a second car to be a daily plus off roader so I don’t have to drive my 1 ton truck everyday. I’ve narrowed it down to XJ Cherokee or old forester. What you think?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      Both good cars, potentially. Dollar for dollar, the Forester is probably going to be in better shape. You'll have to invest some time or money to make it trail worthy though. On the other hand, an equally priced XJ will probably need some tlc. Choose your poison I suppose. Otherwise, they're completely different vehicle classes

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      On this particular trip, we ended up making some dumb choices that got us stuck in a place no car could reach. We winched mostly out, but still needed recovery due to a blown diff (from extreme abuse). Case in point - both xjs that tried to tow us out, broke. We ended up hauling them out with fwd only, in very ironic fashion

    • @xthexadvantagex
      @xthexadvantagex 5 лет назад

      Power of your brains ironic indeed. What about reliability and ease of modification? Keep parts are cheap and plentiful. I don’t know about Subaru parts or eAse of maintenance. I’m partial to apps axles but aonxe tia. Car would have to do double duty I wonder how much better the Subaru would do on fuel economy.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      @@xthexadvantagex Reliability is something I'm not gonna touch, but I will tell you that the EJ251 in this car has 200k on the ticker and runs like a clock. Mods for either should be about the same; if its really easy then you're just that good or you did something wrong. Aftermarket parts are probably cheaper for the Jeep, but we fabricate most things ourselves so what the hell would we know. Subarus have a lot of cross-compatibility, so OEM parts are typically cheap and plentiful...cheaper to keep them on the road because of that. Not sure what that 5th sentence means. Older Subarus like this one don't get great mileage, but compared to an XJ they certainly do. Hope that helps.

  • @ferrettankror1
    @ferrettankror1 6 лет назад

    haha I just bought a terra 45 coincidentally. What rope are you using btw and do you like it?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад

      Used to have a 25 ft spool steel cable, now 50 ft nylon. Works well, way more convenient. Had a couple breaks while winching up a mountain for the second time - an entire mountain. That trip was search-and-rescue epic...so we had bigger problems to contend with needless to say. Go nylon for sure

  • @dallasvanwyk
    @dallasvanwyk 6 лет назад

    What state is this in? Also, do you have a build thread anywhere?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      West Virginia. No real build thread, but you could come close to one if you were to add up all the video comments we've responded to over time. We've been building, pushing, breaking, and improving this thing for a long time now, but unfortunately it only recently occured to us to talk about it on video. We do plan to make more however, and always happy to answer any questions you might have

    • @dallasvanwyk
      @dallasvanwyk 6 лет назад +1

      Sent you an email

  • @rebel9838
    @rebel9838 5 лет назад

    That is the worst way you could fix the snorkel top piece. Because a snorkel is meant to keep water out intake, and if you have ever seen someone hit a water hole or mud hole you would know that typically the water splashes onto hood of the vehicle and then up and over windshield, so the way you snorkel is the water would splash into it.

  • @om617yota8
    @om617yota8 4 года назад

    Love the build and the attitude behind it, thanks for sharing it with us.
    Lots I'd like to do to my Forester, but less than 100 miles out of the 20k/year I put on it are off pavement, so I simply can't justify anything that would detract from MPG or commuting manners. Burdens of a responsible adult....

  • @bobs12andahalf2
    @bobs12andahalf2 6 лет назад

    More on the diff mods?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Robert Leitch Noted, I'll made make a video soon which expands on that once we figure out the engineering for the new rear

    • @bobs12andahalf2
      @bobs12andahalf2 6 лет назад

      Nice!! Looking forward to it!

  • @Tankerpaul223
    @Tankerpaul223 6 лет назад

    I just wish subi would give us a vehicle with a frame. Unibody cars tend to fall apart when you take them off the pavement.

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      I see where you're coming from, although framed vehicles are not immune to this, and have problems of their own (such as being heavier, which puts additional stress on components to achieve the same results). In general, chassis flex is good for off-road. Had we implemented chassis supports (sooner) or performed rust proofing (ever), I think we'd be much better off.

  • @djschuby04
    @djschuby04 5 лет назад

    Anyone else notice the pencil at 5:28?

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  5 лет назад

      I believe that's actually part of the wiring harness, but there's no telling what all is trapped within the body panels of this car. Mainly, many pounds of mud I'd imagine.

  • @toddmcdonald8493
    @toddmcdonald8493 4 года назад

    I have a 1999 Forester

  • @SergeyAKr
    @SergeyAKr 6 лет назад +1

    Хранить Hi-Jack Lift в салоне не самое лучшее решение. После применения он обычно весь в грязи, гораздо лучше его закрепить на багажник снаружи, like this
    www.drive2.ru/l/502170875856945938/

  • @pulanis
    @pulanis 6 лет назад

    Good movie👍🏻 Thanks 😀

  • @maxwellmccomb8603
    @maxwellmccomb8603 6 лет назад

    Work of art😍

  • @rickjames5998
    @rickjames5998 6 лет назад

    why no locking diffs

  • @wombocombo9804
    @wombocombo9804 4 года назад

    Grab a ol super charger and toss it on or something for some more TURQSSS

  • @roughready7491
    @roughready7491 6 лет назад +6

    I was all about it until I saw the Bernie sticker

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +3

      Not my car or sticker, but everyone is entitled to their voice and opinion, including you. There are no ideologues or politics on this channel, I don't care for them. If a sticker deters people who are wrapped up in political thinking, so be it. No offense intended, I just wanted to give an explanation since were nice enough to tell me your honest impression (instead of telling me about which team sticker should be there)

    • @roughready7491
      @roughready7491 6 лет назад

      I have plans for an outrageous gf8 that I will be sure to post on RUclips...I look forward to you commenting on my bumper stickers 😋

    • @powerofyourbrains
      @powerofyourbrains  6 лет назад +1

      Ha, sounds good. Ill be saving up my energy that

  • @Oregonxsaint
    @Oregonxsaint 4 года назад

    Is this thing insured? Custom jobs can fuck you over...

  • @РОРШАХ-щ2ю
    @РОРШАХ-щ2ю 5 лет назад

    ЧЕЛ ИЗ ФЭМИЛИ ПОРНО

  • @rickjames5998
    @rickjames5998 6 лет назад

    shame that subaru doesnt sell a true off road vehicle

  • @Fantaman900
    @Fantaman900 6 лет назад +1

    I know why you lack power, it's not a turbo hahaha