Is Eye of the Beholder [SNES] Worth Playing Today? - SNESdrunk
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
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A tip for new players - you don't have to press the arrow keys. You can hold one of the buttons and use the D-pad. A lot less tedious for movement.
Same for sega cd. Much advised
> So yeah, Eye of the Beholder is more than just track three on "...And Justice for All", and one of the most kick-ass riffs ever, it's also a pretty good port of a PC game on Super Nintendo.
I love this channel.
Yup. Now I gotta go listen to Metallica. Lol
I had to stop the video because that part was so darn funny!! 🤣
“You can do it your own way, if it’s done just how I say!”
Those are my favorite lyrics ever. Great song
I understood that reference.
Love me some TALLICA 🤘
God damnit I wanted to do the joke!
To begin with the dance of the dead blackened is the end.
For some reason I really wanted this game as a kid and when I eventually got it I just couldn't wrap my head around it. Nearly 30 years later I played Legend of Grimrock and it became one of my favorite games of all time. Makes me wanna revisit this one someday.
It's on Steam
I bought EotB back when it was just a couple of years old because I was so excited that a D&D game existed and made it to maybe level 3; I tried to map it but got tricked by the teleporters so my map was a goddamn mess. Eventually I fell into a pit, nearly everyone was bitten by spiders, and the only character left was my mage, who couldn't cut through the spider webs because he'd only throw daggers.
Sounds like D&D.
@@prosfilaes Adv D&D, we have to make sure which Tables' Ruleset we are reffering xD
Yup, that's definitely AD&D for ya.
A kick in the balls any cartridge gamer will love. If it were Toe Jam and Earl it would have been hula, then bees, fall off level 6, then ice cream truck runs you over. Sorry
Your references and sense of humor are so spot-on for me and my friends. Request: Feature more Clyde T. Dog pls
I loved this one as a kid. Still haven’t finished it.
same here
Put me on this list 😂
I have hundreds of hours in this game. As a teenager in the 90s I had this game and there was a time we were broke and didn't have cable so all I did was play this game over and over with different party combos.
I love that the end of your videos are always just like 20 seconds of game soundtrack!
My older bro used to play this and I loved the atmosphere. That opening music is so good. I just busted this out recently for original console and played for a while, probably going to go back and finish it soon.
I’m always excited to see one of your videos get posted. I always seem to lean toward the retro side of gaming. I’ve probably played through Chrono Trigger, FF6, Earthbound and Super Metroid a dozen times each over the years. So whenever you post a vid about a game I may or may not know about, I love to hear your quick chats about what you like and dislike about them.
Basically, thank you for doing these vids. Your time and effort is appreciated.
It also had a Sega CD version's with music by Yuzo Koshiro.
And as expected, that OST kicks ass.
It is good, but the SNES main them is great and much more fitting
@@ZBR_ProXPtrue dat#saga sucks balls
I recommend getting the DOS version and the add-on program "The All-Seeing Eye" that draws a map plus a lot more like editing characters and inventory.
I remember finding these game in a pawnshop as a kid.
The box are looked awesome, and it had the box and Manual.
I get it home pop it into my SNES. and find myself totally lost on how to play. And ended up dying. Over and over again.
Your vids are sure feeling like coming home with all the crazy shot going on. Love you man. Keep it up.
He really is a master at his craft and I also love that these vids are creating an actual video history of the art form of video games. Its a favorite channel of mine for sure.
A reference to “…And Justice For All?”
SNESDrunk, you keep getting cooler and cooler.
He'll yeah! Not to mention, Justice I'd their best record IMO 🤘!!
I freaking LOVE the sequel to this on the PC. It's a shame it didn't get ported. The fact this can be played with the mouse just makes it 100% more appealing now! I'm afraid it could consume me like the sequel. LOL Very much looking forward to playing it now and thank you for the amazing videos!
As a kid I got stuck at the dwarves/in the spider levels and never got farther. Later as a teen with the internet I found maps and printed them out, and then I beat the game without any problem. My secret was to retain and level my original party members and stick with the new members you find early in the game. They’ll become stronger than anyone you’ll find later on in the lower levels
That "...and Justice For All" reference caught me off guard, but I loved it lol.
4:17 Hank Hill?
Haha, I’m surprised so many people in the comments have reacted so positively to that And Justice For All reference!! I learned how to play Eye of the Beholder on guitar many years ago and it’s a blast to play!!
Dude, I remember playing Eye way back when during the SNES days. My cousin had it on his console but I never did. I thought it was really cool because he had the mouse and if I remember correctly, the mouse adds so much to the enjoyment as it makes it so much more intuitive. Keep making great content! Awesome video! Cheers!
This was one of the first games I remember playing as a young kid. My mom let me play her old SNES and Eye of the Beholder was one of the games she had on it.
I adored this game on PC! I think it was my introduction to D&D too. I didn't know there was a SNES port though, wild!
When the voice acting kicked in around 4:30, I was like:
"Gat'dangit Bobby! I swear that boy ain't raght."
4:17 Serious King of the Hill vibes from that wizard. "I tell you hwhat.. I sell wizard spells and wizard accessories."
dang it Bobby, how many times do i have to tell you to stay away from drows?
that's a wounded dwarf, he joins your party if you heal him
This is one of those games that was ALWAYS available at Blockbuster. I never actually tried this game but always saw that cover art and picked it up. Then promptly put it down after seeing the screenshots on the back of the box. :P
Because it's scrapping the bottom of the barrel of SNES role-playing games... :P
@@koalaschola81 It's because it doesn't look fun to most kids. This style died off for a reason, in my humble opinion
Holy Cow I had NO IDEA that Hank Hill played AD&D!
I've only gotten into D&D much later in life so I think I would have to go back and try these games now that I understand the mechanics. I remember being so confused why putting just 1 point into stats didn't do anything when it would change so much in other RPGs. Why would I Long Rest, where is the inn, how come I can only cast 1 spell ever? And so many other hilarious misunderstandings. I've got a flash cart coming in the mail finally so I can't wait to use your channel to fill up my SD card.
Just be wary that if you're used to current D&D (5e), it's VERY different from the D&D that this game is based off. That said, it's also very cool and interesting to see in what ways the game has changed and in what ways it's stayed similar!
I think I will look for some of the other AD&D games that escaped me over the years like Pool of Radiance , Dragonlance, and Warrirors of the Eternal Sun. I always wanted to play those games as a kid but couldn't afford or find them.
A bit unrelated, but the new Commodore 64/128 port of Eye of the Beholder is amazing. In some ways it's better than any other version: it supports multiple monitors, showing gameplay in one monitor and automap in another - pretty rare stuff especially for a 8-bit game!
Sounds awesome! Does this automapping feature work with only one monitor? I would love to play this game on my PS VIta.
@@alexanderkulaev541 Yes! It works with one monitor just fine: the game just switches between gameplay and map screen.
@@arttu76Wow, thanks for the note! This is beautiful. I might try it, then, since this lack of mapping feature is what stops me from ever trying this game. As I understand, there was not this feature in the original releases and ports, right? I just can't bring myself to draw my map these days, don't have much time, sadly ;( But would love to dive deep into this adventure!
Don't you know of this feature in the second game? I mean, does it maybe have automapping or there's some patch for it to add this fuctionality?
@@alexanderkulaev541 Yep, you're correct - as far as I know none of the games or any ports of them have automap other than the C64/C128 version. And I'm 100% with you regarding playing the games without maps - drawing a paper map would have been something I could have bothered 30 years ago, but nowadays ... no :)
@@arttu76 Great that you understand me, my friend :) Right, I just turned 35 this June, and I got PS Vita as a birthday gift from my girlfriend, and man, I've been on a real retro gaming streak ever since! :)
I've gathered all the games I would love to play or at least try into Google Sheets backlog - which I never did for anything, even budgeting! Man, sometimes I feel old and literally feel that I won't be able to do everything I want in my life. And I need to work on my game, not playing others' games, I tell myself! :)
Back to the topic. I don't know about Commodore, so could you recommend me what version, 64 or 128, I should play?
Used to watch my dad play this on SNES because I was too young to wrap my head around the gameplay. If anyone is looking for a modern take on this style, I HIGHLY recommend Legend of Grimrock 1 & 2. Phenomenal games.
YESS!!! I hath been awaiting a video from you on Eye of The Beholder
Nice review! These first-person dungeon crawlers aren't my type of game, but glad to hear this is a solid game for those that enjoy them. It always surprises me how many PC ports the SNES actually received during its lifespan (even if many of them are watered down or censored).
That box art is insane
Oh man the memories! This was actually the first RPG game I have ever beaten. I believe I was around 9 or 10 at the time. Not the first RPG I ever played though, Ultima: Exodus has that honor. Speaking of Which, Ultima: Exodus would be another awesome SNES game to cover (if you haven't already over the years). Thanks for the memories and keep up the great work!
That's an NES game. You got me excited for a second there, thinking there was a port I wasn't aware of 😓
I had this as a kid. (When I say kid, I do mean kid. Still single digits in age haha) and I never could figure out how the UI worked with the controller. Once I did figure it out and started to get into it, my Super Nintendo decided to "retire" itself. Never even got to see anything past the first dungeon. I always loved the way it looked. Its presentation kept me coming back to figure it out lol one of the only games I never got to finish. I'm going to use my emulator and use my mouse like you suggested, see if I like it more 22 years later haha
The Genesis game voice acting sounds like Hank Hill. "That drow ain't right"
i still play this on my pc today. i played it with enthusiasm as a teenager in the early 90s. recently bought all 3 parts on steam for ~5€. simply great this game.
Thumbs up for the ...And Justice for All reference alone. Great video, as always
That old who was talking on the Sega CD version, sounded like a perfect melding of Hank Hill and Coach McGuirk.
This is a huge "box art" game for me. I remember this boxart so vividly, yet know nothing about the game.
I dont even know where I saw this.
Why do I have this memory?
Hmm.
Thanks Drunk
Nice to see the whole crew in the player names. Nice touch.
The voice clip reminded me of Hank Hill reading Bobby's fantasy book "The Elven Lord Flyfendell..."
When I was super little (born in 92) I played this on the snes, I had no idea what I was doing and just ran around button mashing and dying. Ive always remembered it though and could never remember what it was called. Sorta thought it was a fever dream or something lol, thanks for the reminder.
Awesome review man!
D&D, a Metallica reference and an impression at 4:32 that sounds like Mike from MST3K.
This is a great review
This game was so ridiculously hard for me as a child. I got to pick one game for $20 limit at Funcoland.
This at awesome artwork on the cover so I got that. I tried and tried and tried. Never got past the second level. Never tried as an adult though
Get to it :)
Yeah, it uses the AD&D 2E ruleset, which is pretty punishing to newer players.
5% of my time: questing toward the grand finale
95% of my time: picking up darts after battle
Thats why I just stopped using throwing weapons in most fights after my first playtrough, there is no need for them since you can avoid most attack by just moving .
thanks man! i agree, the pc version nowadays is updated with a map, its worthwhile! hail to old westwood! ty for your review, i love playing it on snes, but I love dungeon crawlers in general, lands of lore is still my all time favorite
why does the old man sound like hank hill lol
There’s so many ways to tackle the game that even the final boss can be defeated in a couple of different methods. One even involves barely using any combat.
Definitely one of the top five dungeon crawlers at the time that aged fairly well.
@@AsphyxX-cx3kf - Usually those with clunky interfaces, obscure puzzles, dragged-out combat and/or poor/no music. They have those problems mainly due to system limitations, budding standards for 3D exploration, and needing to pad out game time to give people their money’s worth.
Nothing wrong with any of that back then of course. It just doesn’t hold up very well years later.
4:54
Thats why i love this channel!
When you said the word "emulator" I instinctually translated it to "any way you can."
I actually wrote Capcom (after I solved the game) and asked for any independent help. I was really wanting to know of I missed anything in the game. Capcom responded and sent me a map of every level and all secrets/clues/items literally everything in the game!
I remember we had the SEGA CD version! I think I got as far as the second dungeon but it had those teleporter rooms and for the life of me I couldn't figure it out. I do have the PC trilogy on GOG so may have to return to it that way, although I miss the Yuzo Koshiro soundtrack.
As someone who was a DnD kid, this was game got a few rentals before I saw it at a good price back in the Electronic Boutique era
Definitely could be a challenge, and playing without a mouse was rough, but still got many fun hours from it.
Total length of video: 360 secs.
Total length of "SNES Drunk": 2.5 secs.
.69% (nice) of the video was spent listening to "SNES Drunk".
EOTB on PC and NEW are good, I enjoyed it more on the GameBoyAdvance. (Despite liking 1st & 2nd ed D&D more at the table, 3/3.5 is better for games, and the GBA Version is remade using 3/3.5 rules, I didn't think of it as "Stripped down" I thought of it as "Streamlined", and the Feats option and added weapon variety, and I believe additional classes made it the opposite of stripped down).
Edit: I didn't even know there was a Sega CD version.
I received a copy of this game from a lot trade not too long ago. Going to give it a go this weekend!
I had this game as a kid and... I never got past the first part. I played the heck out of it, though. I loved it, even though I always died and couldn't figure out what to do. I recently tried to replay it as an adult and was very confused about the controls and I still didn't get very far. But maybe I'll give it another go. There's something really unique and intriguing about it.
Can't forget the Sega CD versions music was made by Yuzo Koshrio (YS, Streets of Rage, among others).
Love this game. On PC you can use a mod called All Seeing Eye that will map the dungeon for you. Handy for those who dislike the old school graph paper and pencil map creation method.
Isn't there some software you could use for map making?
@@kekeke8988 well, plenty. you would just need a textmode editor though, it's just a grid of blocks..
the automapper makes it a lot less tedious.
i used to have Eye of the Beholder for my Super Nintendo back in the mid 1990s. Never understood how to fight and kill the Mind flayers and didnt know how to properly fight the final boss the Beholder creature. Mind flayers kept using their mind control powers on my characters where i wasnt able to attack the mind flayers head on etc
I remember buying my copy of the game at a flea market a few years back. I saw a D&D game with the Capcom logo on it and thought it would play like their Tower of Doom and Shadow over Mystara arcade beat ‘em ups. Whoops. 😅
Would love to hear SegaDrunk do Sword of Vermilion
I prefer Harvester or Sorrow but every single track on Justice is stellar. I know it usually ranks below Puppets and sometimes Lightning but for my money Justice is the best album they ever put out. "But you can't hear the bass!" Yeah well that's not why I listen to that kind of music. The lack of bass gives it a cold, crisp sound and that album defined what metal should sound like for me.
Justice is my favorite as well. I personally put it above Master but that’s just me. Justice is a good time front to back!!
that voice acting in the Saturn version sounded eerily like Hank Hill
That King of the Hill voice acting is awesome.
I instantly rewatched the video for the music.
I have this game CiB, looks cool never got into playing it yet.
The first similar game that I've enjoyed is the unity version of Daggerfall (1996 originally), although that's a 3D open world game without tile-based movement.
There is supposedly a unity version of Ultima Underworld in the works as well
There are a couple of Ultima Underworld sourceports in the works.
I use Underworld Exporter, which has UU1 working 100% , UU2 about 99% (works but no saving), and has System Shock (the original was on the same engine) as a WIP
Daggerfall Unity rules. Really gives that old game a new life
Oh man, major kudos on that Metallica reference ♥ And it is an excellent riff! I once used it to keep focused and beat Zuma! ^^
Yeah I love that little bit about And Justice For All!
these were good. you might enjoy the wizardry series too, specifically parts 6-8.
Love these videos! Perhaps he'll do a video called, "SMK: The Goat of SNES multiplayer"? 😊😊😊
I think I remember the map being on the insert in the box of the MS DOS version. I was like 9yrs old so I can't remember.
With subs on the intro said 'nice truck'
4:28 - Combo voice: Lorenzo Music + H. Jon Benjamin
There's a C64 demake fan project that's incredible and worth a look for anyone interested.
The soundtrack on the Sega CD is very good. Same composer as streets or rage.... Epic
That was some grade a particle effects 0:45
4:32 - the personage of a true Canadian here.
I have this game Sealed Vga 80+ US version , love the cover .
I n3ver understand how to play this game. Thanks for showing me. I've subscribed.
Played this on PC from 3.5” floppy discs. Awesome game!
4:20 A wizard as voiced by Hank Hill.
It's me, the person who didn't realize until this video that "Eye of the Beholster" from Enter the Gungeon is not just a punny name but a direct reference to this game
@4:20
" I met my death at the blade of that drow...I tell ya hwaht."
The bearded man sounded like Bob from bobs burgers lol.
Wow, the music to this game is so GOOD!!! :O
I swear I could hear Hank Hill when that wizard was talking 😂
The Sega CD version is even better, that Yuzo Koshiro soundtrack just works.
Ohhh I guess this is where the "Beholster" enemy in Enter the Gungeon comes from?
I do wish the dungeon scrolling was a little bit smoother. like Shining in the Darkness
4:31-hank hill is that you
4:19 Holy shit I didint know H. Jon Benjamin was doing voice over work for games in the early-mid 90's ( Joking but it does sound like him)
"Beholders!"
"Sentient nebulae!"
The voice acting sounds like Lorenzo Music just doing his Garfield voice, haha!
Man the DNA of Legend of Grimrock has never been more clear than this!
I love this game, but I didn't get ANYWHERE even when attempting to draw my own map on graph paper. Still, I've enjoyed the time I've spend with it.
great review. wow your getting deep into the rpg jungle whats next wizardry V?