Its Time To Have A 100% Honest Conversation About The Deshaun Watson Situation
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We not gon all agree on this one fellas. Lets be adults about it though.... RESPECT
Watson was ACCUSED..NOT CONVICTED.....do you understand the difference...pull your head out of the NAZIFL ASS.....so when people SPEW false allegations they need to be enforced.....
Respect
Yeah,because I don't agree with you're point, when the man wasn't criminally charged at all ..
@@jasonallen3678 the US justice system isn’t exactly known for getting stuff right
@@ljb4192 facts!
When it comes to entertainers and celebrities, there's something that is very important to remember:
YOU DO NOT KNOW THESE PEOPLE.
Yeah a lot of people have parasocial relationships with celebs...God knows what most athletes thought or did before the 24/7 media landscape; especially at a time when women were typically not believed when it came to accusations
And they are just people like us , with the same weaknesses and fallibility.
💯
Sort of unrelated it I’ve always found it crazy when I talk to people and they refuse to listen to music from an artist cause they’re from a rival gang from their favorite rapper’s gang. As if they grew up on that dudes block
No shit genius...
You ALWAYS keep it a buck and manage to walk a tight rope of personal introspection, unbiased analysis and compassion for human flaws and weaknesses. You are different brother and I appreciate you.
I second this. Flemlo rocks
Man I really appreciate the comment bro. And thanks for the $ tip🙏🏾🙏🏾
Truth
I've never seen a comment with a tip. Just superchat. How do you do this?
@@GHelton
There's a button somewhere. It's a dollar sign I think
“We worship entertainment, whether we like to admit it or not.”
That’s honestly the truest statement of our society right now 💯
For me it's not so much over worship that I'd say I expect a league to be better at handing out punishment than the government. It's that they aren't bound by the same legal requirements of proof and procedure for arriving to that proof. If you get evidence that proves someone guilty in court, if it wasn't obtained the right way it's thrown out and the case might get thrown out as well. That's not the case for a sports league.
Bread and circuses. Same throughout the known history of this planet - the death signs of another corrupt empire.
@@kyletucker3811 bro what
Not me
I don't give a flying 💩 about none of them. Actors, athlete's rapper's etc we live in a celebrity worshipping wierdo world.
"These are my personal feelings, and you don't have to feel this way". If we could all have this attitude or perspective we would have a lot more constructive conversations in this world rather than arguments.
Really enjoy your videos. keep em coming
Notice how he says that on literally the safest opinion possible. That's like me saying it's my personal opinion that you don't abuse children
Bingo
Most ppl fail to realize that other's opinions are based primarily on their life experiences. Which makes sense. Someone who has been assaulted is usually more likely to side with presumed victims, someone who has been falsely accused is more likely to scrutinize evidence and slower to make a judgement on someone's guilt. The best thing people can do is to recognize biases and try to be as objective as possible. Use logic and always hear both sides of a story before making decisions.
Sing it brother. I have a feeling Flemlo brought good people together
The NFL is a fraudulent Enterprise ! Which has used the media,agents, Government officials,DA's,Judges & women too take advantage of the player's,"have any of u noticed that all of these workers at Fox & ESPN have declared Deshaun Guilty ! And of course many of us are aware that women lie,"even if they get caught there's no penalty,they go on with they're lives 🎯💯🎯
This might actually be the first well thought out properly relayed breakdown on this subject I’ve seen! Definitely props go you Flem for explaining what’s going on and not just defending sexual assault and going “HES NOT GUILTY THEY ONLY GAVE HIM 6 GAMES!”
Hey flemlo, coming at this from a lawyers perspective you did a fantastic job with this one and got the concepts involved better than most of sports media. Great stuff.
YOU WONT GO FAR AS A , LAW - ER
This is why we are all here. We can only take so much of the screaming WWE type BS on ESPN.
Respect for passing the bar. I just graduate from law school and took the VA bar. On Oct 14th, if I pass the bar, best believe I’ll be in the comments section on RUclips like “hey y’all, so im an attorney and RUclipsr, you did alright.”
RUclips lawyer 😂
@@gymkingz3323 any lawyer you’d ever need comments on RUclips. We all do
This is the best take I’ve heard. Love the channel. I’m a lawyer who specializes in arbitration and you did your homework - well done!
Graduated top of his 3rd grade class!
I'm really looking forward to seeing you hit 1 million subs! You found your path and make videos we love! You've already succeeded in my book but hitting another milestone is something you deserve for your hard work. Congratulations bro! your great and deserve every good thing life has to offer.
I dig your content and channel, bruh! I appreciate the respect you give each situation, taking a step back and tracking down as many FACTS as you can. Strong work brother, once again! Be easy, man… I look forward to the next one!!🤙🏻
Not at all surprised that this was extremely well done. It takes guts to approach this subject given that there is still a bit of a divide. Sue Robinson being considered the “jury” is a great way to explain this. The NFL should use that.
She not the jury. There’s no cross examination or testimony. Flem is just repeating what the league wants. You don’t get to grow your channel without kissing a$$.
Bro a lot of us know exactly what this entire situation is about with Deshaun Watson. Once Deshaun started 2 expose the coach and pretty much the entire front office 4 being hella racist, unreliable and working deals under the table or should I say, behind the backs of the star franchise QB and other high profile players, it really put a negative light on the coaching staff and execs and so they concocted this scheme 2 "put Deshaun back in his place" and 2 also send a message 2 other players that regardless how talented or famous they thought they were, the wyte billionaires AKA the team owners and execs still had more influence! The Texans owner is next door neighbor of the lawyer that represented many of the females that accused Deshaun...u do the math! This entire fiasco is just a modern day version of slave buck-breaking!
@@HaYahwarrior did you watch the video where flemlo explains that the lawyer admitted to lying about being their neighbor😂😂. And dawg i feel ya sentiment but you thinking too emotionally. Why would the owner set up Deshaun when the Texans themselves were giving him NDAs and got sued in a few of the accusations? They may have stopped protecting him but setting him
up would be objectively stupid on their part.
@@HaYahwarrior Knuck if you buck
It’s crazy that so consistently, you are able to maintain a level of collectiveness and unbias to educate us all on. You alone are a big reason why I stay watching RUclips! Keep it real Flem and never change 🤝
Best sports RUclips channel out there
@@empiremarketing918 ain’t nobody close
Dude, your moral compass is so spot on. every video I watch of yours just adds to your respectability and credibility. Great job as always. I'm not a huge sports fan but you make these stories so interesting. I do love my Packers though! peace.
it’s more than just a football channel really
Been follow this channel for 2 years now 9k like the growth and narration to any topic... well spoken keep it going..
Always enjoy hearing the Flemlo take on the situation. Fact based, researched, and the information found is the information reported wether it fits what was anticipated or a whole different conclusion. Keep on keeping on and I'll keep on "tuning in"!
Flem, thank you for explaining the process so much more clearly than anyone in the media. I hadn't heard a *single* pundit, suit, or talking head on either side of this debate acknowledge that Robinson's role under the contract was to determine guilt, not really to determine the actual sentence.
truth
I appreciate how you made your personal thoughts on the situation before you gave your analysis of the situation, like a reporter used to do. Your willingness to put your feelings aside just to get to the bottom of the situation and then use the situation to teach younger people a thing or two about life is just dope
Keep up the phenomenal work sir, you nailed it as always! Thank you for all the entertainment.
Been watching your content for years and one of the things that always brings me back is how real you tell these stories. You’ve got a gift!
This is a really sensitive subject and i think it was handled greatly. Really good video, and as a survivor you did a good job explaining this without any triggering.
A survivor? 🤣
@@bits8031 weird response
Been a fan of you for a long time. Love your stuff. This is such a complex, nuanced issue, with a lot of twists and turns, and misinformation going around. I just wanted to commend you for going all in, doing the research, and doing the work necessary to fully understand what's going on, and convey it to your audience accurately.
High five, bro. This is great work, man
Measured and thoughtful… what is missing anywhere else🤣
Great job Flemlo
Thanks for the years of quality content brother 💪🏾
I appreciate that
I like the name...the old mail man
Man Flem I started following your vids about 3 years ago through some suggestions on a video with my gf and we’ve been hooked ever since, I have NEVER saw another guy break down the personal and non personal lives of other athletes without destroying them and without being biased by any means the way you do !! Kudos to you bro and I wish you nothing but blessings in the future with not just this but all you do!
Thanks for the breakdown and analysis of this story. He was quickly becoming one of my favorite young players (I watch a lot of sports with my husband). I remember a story from one of the Texans stadium janitorial staff members about him giving cash gifts to the staff for Christmas. How respectful he was to everyone. It hurt to see him go down this path. I appreciate your hopeful take on him learning from this through therapy and time. I’ll be praying for him! New subscriber, loving your content so far. ❤
He used the line that I am trying to support black buisness owners to get an appointment with and assault at least one young black woman, if not more Extra gross 🤢
@@reneewilliams5777 not the same one that called him 19 times lmao y’all don’t talk about none of that it’s all just he forced them to do stuff
@@onlyonezay419 Exactly
I still have a lot of questions about this whole thing. There’s still stuff that we aren’t being shown. The Texans feeding him some of these women just got swept under the rug as if it didn’t happen which is WILD to me.
That being said. I loved your take on this. Right down the middle and unbiased. I agree with your ending statement about therapy. I hope it does good for him. I want all parties to achieve the necessary healing needed to move forward
Yeah I just read about the Texans doing something like that. Truly a shame.
why do y’all keep saying it was the texans.
it was a select few of people, *not the entire franchise.*
why do people slander the franchise when it was only a couple of people who were doing that shit?
@@judoka. 😂
@@chrishandsome4267 what’s so funny?
@@judoka. When it comes to a high profile player like Watson, there is nothing the organization doesn't know when it comes to catering to them INSIDE the building. The higher ups know, the front office knows and everyone who works around the players knows. NDAs handed out by security staff, who many times work for a company contracted by the team, were instructing by higher up to deliver said NDAs. These security staff talk. People knew inside that building and no one said a thing
I stg Flem you took the words right out of my mind. Everything you said in this video was 💯
Been waiting on this video from you! Hope all is well Flemlo!
Thank you for approaching this the way that you did. This is a sensitive subject for most people, regardless of which side of it you fall on. I love that your focus was geared toward sharing all of the information we have and presenting in a way most people could understand. Your work continues to improve and it's great to see.
Flemlo, you da man, I really enjoy the content you put out, you were born to do this👊🙌
Similar to you I loved Deshaun coming out. Hell he's the reason why I became a CFB fan along with being an NFL fan watching him game after game be a DAWG in Clemson and then rooting for him in Houston. Then I hear he wants to be traded (b4 the allegations) and I was so down to give up EVERYTHING for my Broncos to get Deshaun and then I hear what happens and Im lost. The more and more that comes out the crazier it gets and I don't know what to feel. I trust you to always stay real and grounded and u did that again my man and I appreciate that cause there's a lot of crazy shit said from both sides about Deshaun and this situation that in the end doesn't take into account the layers to something as serious as whats clouding him rn
I so overstand where ur coming from and how u feel. I grew up just minutes from where Deshaun went 2 highschool so I've been a big supporter of his 4 a long time. I grew up in a area where I've witnessed a lot of unfair and biased behaviors especially towards a certain demography. The reason why Deshaun is being attacked and his personal life as well as his career is being destroyed is b/c in the eyes and minds of certain people who feel as if their money and social status merits them control over anyone especially if they feel that they "made you" anyway, you're not supposed 2 rock the boat or cause attention 2 their racist and bigoted culture in that teams business room! Deshaun is being stripped and whipped publicly just like during chattel slavery times, they called it, "Buck breaking" back then. U take the biggest, strongest and most influential male slave, tie him him down 2 a post and beat him and sexually assault him in front of his family, friends and other male slaves 2 make him look bad, weak and dehumanized ... it's basically a PR stunt 2 destroy the character and image of the individual. They're sending a message 2 Deshaun saying, "stay in your place, boy". U best believe a lot of money has been spent 2 bring all these allegations 2 life 2 destroy Deshaun's career. He'll never play in the NFL again, these NFL owners and execs are all in cahoots with each other and they've already been hit hard by the Colin Kaepernick protests then the coach from Miami exposing them throwing games and paying coaches 2 tank... anyone who trusts anything that the NFL, the owners, the front office and execs has 2 say nowadays is not a wise person at all!
@@HaYahwarrior exactly 💯 now this is the best honest truthful comment I've heard on here,straight too the point and facts," he has no history of any kind of abusive behavior,but he tells a owner and his team, he'll never play for them again,right after that here comes all these allegations,from online scammers represented by a lawyer who lives right next store too the owner,but according to flemo they never had a conversation,even when evidence pts to it 🤣
Well too bad he didn't do it so you can stfu now lmao me and other people knew that man was innocent from the start lmao all those "allocations" didn't come out till he demanded a trade. It's time you people stop taking words from females who tend to lie all the time
Dude u make some damn top notch quality content. Always well thought out, objective, not preachy or with an agenda. I'm not really even a fan of football anymore but i always watch your videos
Your videos are always so informative and eloquently put together. Thank you for sharing your research with us and hopefully opening more eyes to how it all works.
This is the first video I've ever watched of yours. But hot DAMN you've got flawless logical processes. I am loving your analysis and breaking this whole thing down. Trying to find the truth is so powerful. I respect you a lot for seeking the truth.
Love the video man. Takes a lot of courage to broach this subject from an unbiased perspective
This is such a fair assessment of the situation. Good job as always.
Hey Flem, another amazing video man. Been a subscriber for over 5 years now. Quick question, is the sports therapy podcast coming back this year? You and KTO were really good and enjoyed it.
Flem, you and FD Signifier are my favorite youtubers right now. Honest, introspective, and intelligent black men 🫡
Agreed
FD is goated
They need to go harder against white supremacy. Sounding real soft right now.
@@davruck1 for flem to go straight up radical, he would be isolating a whole part of his audience…
@@dreandthepictures bros never been spied on and set up by his employer. This happens all the time. Happy endings are common practice. He knows this and if he played college sports he knows this. We’re never gonna accomplish anything if we value RUclips followers more than the truth. Watson helped blacks finally have control in contract negotiations and demand owners higher blacks or they will go elsewhere. He demanded a trade and they got some MAGA lawyer to build a phony case. If trump was trashing Watson, a man without any grand jury indictments would he be having this same take? Yet you let Buzbee aka MAGA Trump Jr accuse Watson and you accept it uncritically? Do a RUclips search on this Buzbee clown. Remember Ezekiel Elliott was also guilty of “non-violent sexual assault” a term created by Peter Harvey to penalize Elliot after an investigator suggested he be cleared. Now Peter Harvey the 🦝 is about to punish Watson. This is a pathetic and embarrassing bootlicking cowardly video.
Top football storytelling content creator. Great quality on every video. Thank you for putting in the work on every one.
You are so respectful, and unbiased, you present the facts and although you have your personal feelings you don’t let them be on the way of the essay. And your voice is so calming, I’ve been putting essays that I’ve already heard to sleep better.
As a lifelong Texans fan I was in denial about the one case. My heart broke when it became 7 in three days. Also looking through the emails his first legal team denied the amount of money requested and said that "Deshaun needs to learn something from this case". That kind of talk, from his own legal team, broke my heart. Dude is a predator in my mind. It sucks because I thought he was gonna be an amazing role model and face of my favorite team.
Ya he seemed like a good dude. As a lions fan I loved Matthew stafford I can’t imagine if this came out about him. Cognitive dissonance would be killer
I mean he got rub and tugs and paid them. There’s a moral argument to be made but I don’t think that makes him a predator. The 20 plus number of women to come forward is pretty easy to get with the nature of the case. The comparison of the falcons receiver i don’t think is really relevant as Watson’s case doesn’t effect the integrity of the game. I think Watson has an issue with this and should not be doing this in his position. I agree with the suspension for 6 games personally. I agree with Flemo at the end though, this could escalate into more so he needs to be checked now and it’s a good thing this came out as this could have been a lot worse.
@@journeytothevoid2899 the predatory part is him insisting and knowing that they didn’t want to do it yet he still insisted
@Deshaun “massage” Watson your profile pic is hilarious
@@Suko44 Well they got their money from him so that’s all that matters. What he did or didn’t do to them is irrelevant now.
Hell of a breakdown, much appreciated ✊🏽
Bro, I've been waiting to hear your input and take on this whole situation.
Very well spoken and super intelligent! I love the way you dig and dig before you're willing to make a judgement on someone. Makes for a great man and leader. Much respect..
Wow... speechless. Haven't been able to catch one of your videos in a while but THIS is a perfect reminder of why I subscribed.
My only issue is that people were disappointed in the JUDGE, not the NFL when the first decision came out. In that regard, people WERE holding a judge, not the league, to a high standard - but rightfully so.
my only issue is this disappointing comment . charlie mirus more like charlie moranus
Great perspective. I was on one side of the fence on this, but you’ve given me a different way of looking at it the way you broke it down. Respect 💯
Ask him to follow up on Buzbee. Can’t believe a black man is taking the word of MAGA trump jr. Black leaders are so lost and have done nothing besides kiss a$$ and enrich themselves.
I always love hearing your takes. Keep it up my man. 🤟
My respect for you grows every time I watch one of your videos like this. You always seem to find the perfect balance. Keep it up, man
The last minute or so of this vid you’re 100% on point on everything.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bad vid on this channel but this one was excellent.
It's so nice to listen to someone reason something out.
Bro literally refused to follow up on Buzbee.
This all could’ve been avoided if he had admitted to having a sex addiction and checked into rehab.
His behavior is indeed predatory but it isn’t egregious. As long as he didn’t force himself or physician assault a woman, he still could’ve saved face.
Bro people get happy endings every day.
@@davruck1 yeah especially say if he didn't force anything and in his head feel innocent, it's hard to plead guilty about anything. That's how the everyday court case prosecutor offers deals on lesser charge. It's frustrating to take that bs. But risk going trial on original charge. I seen on some documentary that like almost 85 or 90% cases don't go trial.
He could have avoided being set up by admitting he was a Sex addict?
@@davruck1 consensual is the key factor. What Watson did (allegedly, but also probably) was not consensual.
but repeated and very targeted sexual harassment is still egregious, at least in my head.
The ultimate question Id have for Jimmy Haslam, Andrew Berry, and Kevin Stefanski is
"If your wife or daughter was one of the accusers, would Deshaun Watson be a member of the Cleveland Browns?"
All of their daughters are masseuses?
@@daveblood00 😂😂😂😂😂
Probably
I would hope I raised my daughter to not be advertising their "services" on the internet, some flying to other cities, meeting dudes in a hotel, to give them private "massages" (specifically for millionaires or billionares) signing NDAs, for money or returning for multiple sessions after being "assaulted" just because of the money. There are massage parlors with multiple people and cameras to film the entire thing. Also I would hope I raised my daughter wouldn't do sexual acts for money. If they do decide money is more important than their integrity, then it is what it is. You can raise your children right, but that doesn't guarantee anything.
@@17thN.O these women weren't licensed and they were also doing massages during covid which was not allowed and could lose their licenses if they had them... Watson is def a weirdo with predatory behavior but these women knew what it was..
Absolutely fantastic video. Brought something new to the discussion. There was nuance and shades in a way that would NEVER fly on ESPN or Twitter.
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I'll certainly be checking out more.
Excellent work, sir.
Great video brother, been watching you for years and I respect how real you keep it no matter what.
Sadly I feel like he's not gonna change. The way he was answering questions during that deposition gave me the worst vibes. Manipulation 101. Awesome video though as always bro.
you are probably right. He also has a weird ass voice, like... in a creepy way. He sound like a itch...
Oh plz. Spare me
@@ryanrich7133 you could've spared yourself and kept scrolling weirdo.
@@ryanrich7133 spare you what?
@@chrishandsome4267 I dunno, I guess he just disagrees with you. However, you can spare me some change, shits getting crazy expensive.
My dad was sworn into the Delaware Bar by Judge Robinson. He has the utmost respect for her as a judge. He thinks she was working off of precedent, which makes sense. I can't think of an example of when someone was suspended over 6 games for personal conduct policy violations. I personally think he should be suspended for 2 games per violation, so 24 games total
Zeke Elliot got 6 for personal conduct policy in 2017
@@ADKenkel61 Yeah. That's not over 6 games
I think that's valid. Especially the Judge's emphasis on the "non-violent" part.
Ben got 4 and that girl stated she said no
@@ADKenkel61 for something that was later proven untrue
They did it with Ben roethlisburger. And that’s not defending Deshaun just making a clear observation
Who is "THEY"
@@personreanimation they being the nfl handing 4 game suspensions for rape. And with supporting video footage
@@Dmontymagik without***
ben was alledged to have committed violent rapes. Big difference
the sky is blue, that is a clear observation, just kidding.
That happen years ago and they want to crack down on this subject. Also deshaun has way more cases and a creepy # amount of therapist. Also the judge lady called him a sexual predator.
If big ben did his thing now, he would sit 1 season or more. If that helps people understand better...
Huge love and respect for you buddy. This is a very, very difficult topic to approach and you did it gracefully. I agree with everything you’ve said, but I am open to conversation as well.
….. woah. Flem… woah…. Your growth man. I really been watching for years now man. As I’ve grown so have you. What a piece man. This definitely a conversation bouta tear barbershops across the country up
No it’s not. You must get your hair cut by 🦝
Tangential to the Watson story, you are dead on accurate in our addiction to entertainment. "Reality" tv, games, sports, music, comedy, etc. We live in the ultimate society of people being controlled with bread and circuses. Not good or bad, just accurate.
It's undeniably bad. When we become so enamored in entertainment that we dont handle real problems...its bad
I Remember looking at the video of Deshaun Watson singing autographs and getting met by a mob of fans at Training Camp. Which truly shows that some fans have no morality and do not care who is on their team as long as the person helps them win football games.
And I understand that every team has sketchy characters, and if you can separate artist from art and just root for the team, fine. What I don’t understand however, is the fans looking for his autograph and idolizing him as if he’s some person to look up to.
And you wrote this long ass statement, for someone whom isn’t convicted. I hate today’s man such freaking wuss
@@bstowe3000 OK tough guy
@@bstowe3000 just because he wasn’t convicted doesn’t mean he didn’t do it
@@JohnDaDong93 but you’re assuming guilt. You’re just as much part of the problem in society. This is the same dude that’s been involved in philanthropy and helping build affordable housing since his middle school years, especially with Habitat for Humanity. But of course you forget all about that as soon as some random women come out of the blue and accuse him for a crime that he was not even found guilty of. I think the dude is a horny freak, but I have a hard time seeing how he sexually assaulted 20+ women under the supervision of the Texans and even some of those same women kept going back and treating him. It is very well a possibility that this was a case of blackmail and extortion by the women as well. People forgot already that he was warned by a handful of other women he was involved with not to keep going back to some of the others. I wonder why…
@@karamvirs1638 and just bc somebody said he did doesn’t mean anything either.
We live in a world where everyone knows everything. No one can have a different opinion and if you even think or suggest that you disagree or something isn't wrong it makes you a terrible human being. As a society we have lost our ability to think critically and can only consume and spit back opinions that get fed to us. It is a sad state of affairs because as a whole the youth care more about being liked then they do about being rationale and being right.
It’s weird you say this on a very successful video doing the opposite.
You sat here and watched this video and commented and it’s view counts and his subscriber count are right there.
You’re parroting this message despite evidence showing you it’s not true.
@@piedpiper1172 the message is true. Flem is a one of the rare individuals that takes time to analyze his thoughts and the evidence before jumping to a conclusion or forming an opinion. Even though there are many times he will get attacked in the comments section for having an opinion that goes against the grain. He stands by the courage of his convictions and his research. There are some who watch his videos and also form their own opinions most just hop in the comments section and parrot what they hear on other sites or on tv. My original post was a sarcastic jab at the mindless parrots and the comments and the thoughts behind the comments still remain true. Just because one video does well and gains support doesn't mean society has changed its stripes and the opinion is no longer valid. It is a step in the right direction.
That is true to a certain extent. I believe that they are some things that people should agree that is wrong given the facts
You the 🐐 Flemlo wish u posted more bless up my brother 🤞🏽♥️
love your content bro. your documentary's and discussions of these types of topics are done VERY well. keep up the awesome work!
Cleveland is straight up Nuts for giving him the money they did. Even if all the accusations are cleared he hasn't seen a locker room in over a year! It was a gamble regardless but maybe the most Browns decision i've ever seen.
He’s a top 3 qb handjobs don’t make you shit at your job
You forgot about the falcon ps and saints who were willing to get him too
Facts don’t matter!
the sick thing is the browns defending him after getting him knowing what he did, it's like their plan was like hey lets get him and maybe change the narrative of him being a sexual predator....
You wanted him to play on a Texas team with a bunch of cpu generated players?
Helluva breakdown. I hope Deshaun gets to the root of what's driving his behavior and can correct it. What a crazy story
He’s never been convicted of anything. Nothing has ever been proven.
The NFLPA has been agreeing to the worse terms with Roger Goodell since 2011. I, as a Saints fan, HATE HATE HATE Roger Goodell. And while I hate the cowboys, I think what he did to zeke was a crime. And the owners kept him in his position. I am close to walking away from the nfl because of this miscarriage of justice.
Kinda funny because as a saints fan you should understand that the saints did some really really dirty stuff.
Great video! This is the best breakdown I’ve seen of this situation since it first hit the media. Your take was spot on! Keep doing what you do.
Flemlo I love your vids I’ve been watching for forever and never thought to ask if you had a podcast. Hopefully you see this
Thanks! When you are a fan of something, it's hard to be objective. Sometimes you don't even realize you are motivated to debunk everything against the thing you are a fan of.
Then along comes a Flemlo and he talks some sense into you.
DW might have been saved from worse behaviors. I never saw it that way.
Well said and thanks for the super thanks
Great breakdown man! Everyone else has their personal bias when discussing this case
One of the best content creators out there, appreciate all your hard work and the way you tell an unbiased story, always looking to find a path to redemption, thank you for sharing your incredible talent and passion with us!
Honestly dude, great video. Seriously cannot give you enough props for the preparation and perspective you bring to the videos and subject matter. I don’t even really like football and I’m obsessed w these videos. Thank you for your work
Always bring that heat bro salute
Hey Flemlo….PLEASE do a part B to this and talk about the suspension friendly contract he signed! Got to hit him in the wallet if they want to make a statement.
We will first have to see how the suspension is finalized before knowing the ramifications.
Josh Gordon: 78 games for weed
Deshaun Watson: 6 games for sexual assault
That math ain’t mathing right to me
No… Big Ben got accused of sexual assault Watson got accused of sexual misconduct… words have meanings
Found not guilty
@@trawill860 I mean so was OJ 😂
@@chrisfelder7029 sexual misconduct is a broad term. Sexual assault is included in the definition
@@tylerbrubaker_7 but they’re still different.
A really excellent breakdown and conversation about this subject, that was based on facts, rather than “Facebook logic”. Keep up the great work.
Excellent report! Thank you Sir 🙏🏽
Gosh I’ve been watching you since last chance u and I haven’t stopped. Love your content bruh
Well said Flem, all I can add is that dude needs the help especially because he sees nothing wrong with his behavior. I do hope the brother gets it together cause this is a bad and sinister look for him.
It's hard to see Deshaun Watson in the same light after this, especially when all the other subsequent details came out later. However, similar to R. Kelly there are people that know he's a monster for what he did yet are able to still listen to his music because it's classic to them (I'm not one of them). I knew he wouldn't get a full season suspension since the NFL values money over morals, but so does many other big corporations.
But is he guilty or not?? i really don't understand, peoples put him in the same case as Cosby and R.Kelly but the judge didn't sentence him....why?
Nothing has even been proven. Money hungry me too women.
Indefinite suspension for flirting since when allegations became the truth money grab all the way not buying these woman’s allegations
@@zakjones1277 R. Kelly was sentenced to 30 years in prison, what the hell are you smoking?
What did he do ?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 y’all mad because not 1 but 2 grand juries and a federal judge decision not to indict got y’all heated….get over it they saw what the accusers had and said pay them if it’ll make them happy obviously it did because we haven’t heard a peep since🤣🤣🤣 but you guys all bent outta shape it’s the alleged victims who should be crying foul but it’s all the ppl that don’t know all the facts🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. I used to respect Flemlo for telling the other side of the story, but he turned into a b1tch on this one. I’d tell him that to his face if I ever see him.
Always appreciate your videos my boy can tell you really enjoy what you do and put a lot of time and effort in … good looks to you 🤝
Man you always keep it real You're research is top notch. I am a Louisiana boy btw so I know that you are loving Burreauxs and Chase. Just like us Saints fans love the Buckeyes filling our team.
He was a pro athlete who was getting happy endings and started to expect it. Maybe a few of the lady’s were shocked at him sitting naked on the table, but I’m honestly curious if he really did “force” himself upon them. Something isn’t adding up with the statements released. Based on what was released, it leans towards doubtful. Either way we will never truly know.
As a browns fans I really just want to root for my team and feel good about it
You said that you think a 1 year suspension would be better fitting to appease more people, however I don't believe that is a great way to approach this. Our goal should not be to not make people angry, our goal should be to do what is fair, what is just. Bending our laws and our punishments to cater to parties uninvolved is not justice, in my opinion.
If the NFL was the government: you are absolutely correct.
If the NFL is a private profit making corporation: No, whatever is best for the product is the best outcome be it fair, right, just or not.
The NFL is about profit and entertainment. We forget this sometimes but there is a reason they call the teams “franchises”. If banning Deshaun for life increases the leagues profit that’s what they should (and would) do.
The most in depth video about the whole proccess on the internet. The hood thanks you bro.
Your one of the best on the Tube FR
Respect ✊🏽
Thank You for all the research you put into this! Damn Man! I'm sure you needed a double shot Crown or something after all that time!
I was lost in all the legal angles! But you wrapped it up beautifully - Well done Sir!
I think I'm too late now huh
I've been waiting on your opinion about this situation because you will be fair. Period.
There’s also one of the victims sons came out and said that his mother only said good things until the allegations came out and she saw an opportunity, it’s just a whole big mess
Definitely Dope My Brother! Gatorade Towel Though!?! Lmao!
" we worship entertainment whether we admit it or not " 💎💎 flem always dropping gems
So dude was just enjoying massages from broads and this is a big deal WHY?…6 games is the appropriate number it’s not like he physically harmed these chicks this whole thing is goofy and females bend the truth a lot
I never understood why a millionaire like Watson would try to get with women in that way. I guess it’s a weird kink or something and I think some of women went with it as well…. And unfortunately his fetish almost ended his career. Human beings are weird🤦🏾
@Joey The "NINO" Burrito Yea it probably started that way but he’s an idiot for hiring “instagram models” for massages in the first half place🤦🏾
I can understand what he wanted but to do that is just too risky and now he's in this situation. Your job can get a masseuse for you or You can hire 1 or 2 personal masseuse that come to your home. To get 20+? That's crazy and for all the Reason I want to give him benefit of the doubt because court of public opinion is quick to put you down but that 20+ is what hurts
Found not guilty
It's not weird to wanna bust on a bunch of easy "Instagram models". They literally advertise to be that. You can see in their bios. If he was going after women who didn't lack morals, and most importantly actually assault people, then this would be a different story. People are just mad cause internet culture leads to a lack of self responsibility. And I don't mean for a dude who was trying to bust without making 20 different baby mamas
@@trawill860 I see those words being repeated all the time, not guilty. That is untrue and you should stop saying them. Grand Juries do not find someone guilty or not guilty. They just found that there was not enough information presented to indict and bring the case to trial. Watson is also not being judged by the NFL on his guilt or innocence of any particular law. He is being judged by the NFL's personal conduct policy.
Not my take, I have just heard it a few times. The NFLPA threatening to sue was less about the actual case itself and more about the threat of discovery. During the discovery process of a lawsuit, either side can request info and documents. It seemed to be threatening to "air the NFL's dirty laundry" to the public during that phase. I am assuming the NFLPA is/was hoping that threat would be enough to get them to back off
And you took the time to put the three most relevant of his videos as the end links, too.
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Thanks for the background. I now understand this whole situation better.