You said EXACTLY what I've been thinking while listening to this! The defense attorney is not only rude and, at times, unprofessional, but he also does a lot of audible sigh-ing leaving the impression he is bored or annoyed, etc.
@@tarafrye4939 ikr, seriously if he was my lawyer, I would fire him on the spot. Annoying as hell ! But in the end I hope the jury will do what is right and send Lori to prison for life, no parole. Then I hope she turns into a zombie for real 😡
The defence trying to pin it on the dog paper was priceless! They got nuthin” and the state’s case is very, very tight and Thomas can’t figure out how to squeeze in there and pull it apart.
@@cherylbutler2452 you cant make Lori testify that's against all the rules . I think melanie should get in trouble tomorrow. I am still trying to figure out how all these evil people met up with each other.
I think it's entirely possible that you're correct and that she is not necessarily a cooperating witness but a hostile witness for the state. It's also possible that since she's in court against her ex regarding her kids that she had no self control and just had to look into what her ex had testified to in regards to herself for her own personal case. Until you've been involved in a contentious court case (especially over your kids), it's hard to understand how much that can consume your thoughts and life.
I think Melanie is as evil as Lori and I believe she was the second person in the vehicle with Alex when he was shot at ! She needs to be questioned and treated as a hostile witness period ! And if I were Ian’s ex wife I would NEVER allow him to see his kids with just him and Melanie . His initial reaction was correct, unfortunately he is ignoring it . That’s his bad 💯, but his children need to be protected.
It is so sad, Tammy cried out for her husbands name for help. The husband, who should protect her. But this husband wanted her killed. I hope she didn't know what was actually going on when she later was strangled. The horror of finding out that deception in the last seconds of your life.
I can’t help but wonder when that ex-friend of Lori’s testified that Lori threatened to kill her, she also said something about that Lori told her that she (Lori) already watched someone take their last breath, and I wondered did Lori mean she watched as Tammy was dying or did she watch as one of the children died or Charles? That part gave me chills and if I was a juror with some compassion for Lori, at that point all compassion would have left. That woman is evil to say the least.
Nate-just had to comment to give you super props for all your work on this! following every detail from you since the beginning from the Milwaukee area- keep it up!
Melanie's husband would be wise watching his back with her....not because of present or prior beliefs she held, but because of her behavior in 2018, 19 and 20. Vengeful and dangerous person.
The defense keeps pressing after asking two or three times how many feet 150 meters is. Finally the detective says "I just said no." Arrogant defense attorney trying to be so much smarter than everyone in the room. Not coming across that way, little dude.
Okay I thought it was kinda funny how the defense basically asked the detective “so no one really actually investigated further into any claim?” And the detective just goes “Yep”
If Lori is supposed to be so in love with Chad why does it sound like he is the new fall guy. I don't get how this defense tactic would work out if Lori was the one collecting multiple checks from SSA. I think Lori used this religion to figure out who she could manipulate.I also think Chad was also going to end up eventually on Lori's lists of being disposable. Lori's huge smile on marriage photos with Chad to me was not genuine. I think Lori's neice was the only one that wasn't being manipulated cause she was in on the whole thing with Lori.
Leah: What do you think is the responsibility of a defense attorney? The circumstantial evidence of guilt in the Casey Anthony case, was stronger than this case. Yet consider the outcome. So when defense can't refute the evidence, that attorney will suggest someone else committed the crime, or that someone else is more responsible for the crime than the defendant. The defense obligation is to Lori only, not Chad. Lori, facing life in prison, will not object to any strategy that will get her an acquittal OR a reduced sentence. Remember, attorneys are officers of the court, but no attorney is required to raise their right hand and swear to tell or present "the whole truth and nothing but the truth." Leah, learn about court proceedings, the law, grand juries, responsibility or duty of prosecuter and defense attorney, and rules of evidence, before you write anything. I suspect you are unaware that only the prosecuter presents their case to the grand jury. The defense cannot present anything to the grand jury. So a grand jury's decision to indict or not, is based soley on what the prosecuter presents.
@@pjcat3522 all Alex ..Chad and Lori planned it that way... remember she said after the failed attempt at Tammy....cant he do anything right (by himself/without help)
He's defending Alex because that's where most of the evidence is. The case is a conspiracy case so when Alex is proven guilty, Lori will be guilty if they can prove conspiracy.
In the TV interview Melanie and Ian stated they decided at last minute to get married, yet on the stand Ian stated he asked Lori for Melanie’s hand in marriage. If they only met early November…Lori and Chad had gone off to get married in Hawaii…when did Ian ask for permission to marry Melanie. Lori was gone by the day before Thanksgiving.
Could it be something like to avoid having to testify against your spouse kind of deal or spouse having a different story about what happened? Instead she decided to break the rules and listened to the trial. Unreal
AND THIS... In an exclusive report on Court TV Live on Tuesday night, journalist Ashleigh Banfield uncovered the mysterious death of Vallow's older sister, Stacey Lynn Cox Cope, who died suddenly in 1998 at the age of 31. Her cause of death was undetermined.
Calling Ashleigh Banfield a journalist is like calling Bud Light’s marketing campaign brilliant. I would refer her better as a person who reads sensational garbage whenever a camera is pointed at her.
Oh my goodnessis this defense attorney seriously claiming alexs' searches were for target practice? Ok Mr defense please explain WHY Alex wanted to know about a bullet going through the exact same vehicle type Tammy drove genius lol.
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Hi everyone, listening in to your reporting from Adelaide, South Australia, Pt 2 day 21. This has been another ever evolving & horrific saga that has caught me by surprise, infact I am gob smacked (much like I was with the WM3 Paradise Lost, & Murdaugh Murder trials) since 2019 when Kay Woodcock was looking for her grandson JJ, chasing her brother's ex wife, a Documentary on Investigation Discovery; Doomsday: the Missing Children, then progressed to the death of a husband, maybe 2, death of Tammy, Chads wife of almost 30 yrs, religious extremism, sex, money/greed; insurance & Social Security fraud, manipulation, Zombies, Evil spirits, End of time, Seances, coercion, lies, multiple murders & much more.
It’s freakin crazy. It worries me about seemingly nice people are monsters in disguise. I hope she goes away for the rest of her life in nasty prison. There will be no redemption for her.
Oh and yeah the paradise Lost case was intense. My friends best college friend works for the prosecutors office in W Memphis. She was there when they were let out finally.
If they try to explain every little detail that doesn’t directly reflect the crime, defense attorneys love that. Muddy the water, confuse and burden the jury with unnecessary information and get a not guilty with reasonable doubt. They know what they are doing.
I cannot listen to this with the number of ads! Ads less than 10 minutes apart for an entire hour and 45 minutes? Made it very difficult to concentrate on the trial.
I've never been a part of grand jury proceedings so I'm not sure what questions were asked of Barrantarrio during that or what statements she gave free of questioning, but I think it was a disservice to all that the prosecution wasn't allowed to be the final questioner of this witness in today's trial. I was intensely curious as to what the prosecution would ask and how the witness would answer whatever question(s) were asked of her. And I don't recall seeing her make statements in any pretrial setting but I guess I could have missed that...however I have been following this case since before the children were found on Daybell's property. Something about having extreme religious views to the point you are able to smile when your children are missing/dead has held my interest in this case all along. I don't agree with what the defense is trying to pull here by trying to place all the blame on Chad. I think that both of them egged each other on and their union made both more volatile. I think that before they met each other they both had some toxic views and beliefs that centered on their religious beliefs. I believe their union fueled each other in equal (and negative) ways and created a pair (or trio if you include Alex) of dangerous serial killers, even if it was birthed as a result of cult beliefs. I fully believe based on what I've learned that they had a grand goal of taking out all "zombies" and if they could have gotten away with it. And I believe they would have deluded themselves into believing they had murdered no person. Think of it as similar the 3rd Blade movie where murdering vampire pets who were human (but beholden to their vampire masters) was of no consequence to the character of Blade and his allies. I hope I find Ian's recordings to be far more tolerable to that horrid podcast that was played in the trial on Tuesday. Fingers crossed that I don't get totally aggravated by these recordings too. My interest in this case has only increased with time and hasn't dwindled at all. -Ohio Resident
it was the only time to date the questioning went state; defence; state; defence....usually it has been state; defence; state - thought the state always got right of rebuttal when they go first......it was inconsistent, this judge loves to be in control
@@lisasimpson3832 If a person is going to comment, write something meaningful, relevant or interesting. Comments online are conversations. Add something meaningful to the conversation, not share every mental musing. Get to the point in one paragraph.
Thomas seriously needs to work on his speech! It would also help if he knew what he was going to say before he started talking. His comprehension skills could use some work as well. He is beyond irritating with his slurred speech. I am really missing the captions on this video!!! [Edit: Captions were added later - thank you!] (The way he is badgering Kaaiakamanu would indicate Thomas would be wise to avoid traffic violations.)
So now a trial really turns into a soap: people talking in a court room are "supposed to do this and that" to please the viewers...... can't you just sit back and understand that this is a trial deciding serious matters and is not produced for your personal entertainment
I think she suspected Chad was having an affair, Margaret. From what I have heard of Tammy's personality, she was a shy woman who did not divulge her private business to others. She must have wondered why he chose not to sit with her in Church, anymore. Women are intuitive and I bet she had a hunch he was playing away from home.
Would be interesting if Lori takes the stand, but I’m quite sure her attorneys don’t want her to. She would incriminate herself with her crazy beliefs.
@@vladtheimpala218 I was clarifying OP's comment. They simply stated that it would be interesting to see if Lori TAKES the stand, not called to the stand.
Nate no one is reporting on psychic Rev Donna. Sadly,Including you. Why, LDS?! I know that the church,court and community are all heavily involved. But she knew all that happened to Tylee and JJ 6 months before LE did. She helped them out, and then they removed her from the case. My guess was all the pressure from the LDS church. Is this why you haven’t reported about this to?! It’s a huge deal. She was 💯 accurate and dead on. In help solving this case. And everyone knows and acts like she was never involved. She was and they used her to get search warrants and other info. And to just act like she hadn’t been involved is ridiculous. I know the church is “forcing” everyone to keep quiet. But that’s insane and dangerous to cover up. These are facts in the case and it leaves a lot out about what happened in this case. It also shows that Lori was the ringleader in wanting her kids dead. And she was participating in the Murders. Not just knowing and standing by. Huge difference. Everything done in the dark, always comes out in the light. I get the psychic angle, that can make people uncomfortable. But that’s not the point here. She was.💯 accurate before any information came out. And has solved many other murders as well. She’s not some crackpot, on the Internet. She deserves the respect and recognition, for how she helped in solving this case. I truly hope that you do the right thing and report on this. Journalist are supposed to report facts, whether they like it or not. And those are the facts. A huge part of this case is missing. The jury needs to know the truth about this. It’s truly sad. JS! 🙏
why would the LDS have a problem with a psychic? from what I hear LDS religion is worse than psychics! It's all a load of crap and they are scary people. They all smile, speak softly but are demons underneath
There is no proof whatsoever that psychics are anything but fraudsters trolling for the money of their believers. If they are ever correct about anything, it is a fluke, nothing more
Donna Serphina solved the case 4mths before they even found the kids body. U can't deny her facts the accuracy is so on point and during trial now more and more of what she said is coming out to be true
Yes! I heard it. Offensive term, but if that is what Alex searched for, then that what he has to testify to. I’m surprised. Pretty sure Lori and Chad wouldn’t have liked that.
@@HeatherBarney considering they MADE Melani B (Lori’s niece) divorce Brandon by lying to her that he was gay. (He’s not) They all live in a house of cards. 🙄
Defenses annoying voice plus his long drawn out sighs right before asking his STUPID QUESTIONS is pitiful. Hard to listen to him be rude!!! Put down the witnesses!!!
She was getting things out of her back seat and he was at the back of the car between her and her house. She emailed that to her son. It was in today's part 1
@@Mataylor17 I'm not sure you can claim with 100% certainty that neither child was murdered there. From what I've watched, no place of murder has been pinpointed.
Hi strippers every bit of emotion from his voice to make the facts clear. He was Never hostile! You read too much into it. He got a little annoyed when the defence was badgering over and over if he knew how many feet 150 metres. He said no once. He said no a second time. And then he said I already said no Not hostile. Just pointing out badgering.
i hate the defence guy - god knows why he needs to voir dire every witness every chance he gets - its like he is trying to say - "see i am soooo much better at foundational questioning than her....." it really annoys me - you want to do that? - be a prosecutor mate - otherwise wait your turn -misogynistic %$&*ole
District Attorney Blake: “When Lori talked to you about these things were you open to hearing them?” Ian Pawlowski: “Yes.” District Attorney Blake: “And why was that?” Ian Pawlowski: “I, so i, I’m religious. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and a large part of our belief is faith in revelation, and that the church is a living thing, it’s not done progressing, it’s not done growing. Um, and so, part of that is you have to maintain an open mind when new things come, so if I was going to learn something new it would be, either be, through one of the Lord’s servants or I would receive the revelation directly.” Faith in revelation? I thought it Jesus said to have faith in Him?and Him alone. Open to new revelation? I thought the Bible says that book is now closed. Learn something new from one of the Lord’s servants? I thought the Bible warned against trusting revelations from men and trust only in the Word of God…the Holy Bible. Yes, I am certain, sure and assured that Jesus and the Bible say those things. And that is why I know the LDS/Mormon church is a blasphemous, heretical cult and should be torn down and condemned as such. Lord, Jesus, the One True and ONLY God, creator of heaven and earth, and all that is within it. I pray you would shut the doors on this dangerous and blasphemous church and save the people within it by the power of YOUR revelation and Word, and through your sacrificial, atonement for the sins of mankind on the Cross at Calvary. In your precious and holy name I pray. Amen.
You sound as nutty as Lori and Chad. All religions are just different shades superstitions dating centuries back. Wake up! It’s 2023! Think for your self!
Does the defense not know that them sounding like assholes doesn’t help their client with the jury 😮 ?
You said EXACTLY what I've been thinking while listening to this! The defense attorney is not only rude and, at times, unprofessional, but he also does a lot of audible sigh-ing leaving the impression he is bored or annoyed, etc.
@@tarafrye4939 ikr, seriously if he was my lawyer, I would fire him on the spot. Annoying as hell ! But in the end I hope the jury will do what is right and send Lori to prison for life, no parole. Then I hope she turns into a zombie for real 😡
Can't stand his voice.
It's ok. The more obnoxious he is, the weaker his words are
The defence trying to pin it on the dog paper was priceless! They got nuthin” and the state’s case is very, very tight and Thomas can’t figure out how to squeeze in there and pull it apart.
53:23 redirect
1:02:45 - 1:12:30 discussion about future testimony / sidebar
1:13:42 - 1:20:00 exclusionary questions for witness Mr Polowski
1:25:47 direct starts
Thank you 😊
Some heroes won’t wear capes 😊
Very helpful, thank you!🌷
Thank you! ❤
Thanks Amanda 😊
Who else thinks Melanie purposefully looked at information about the trial in order to not have to testify?
100%
Exactly
I hadn't thought of that!
@@cherylbutler2452 you cant make Lori testify that's against all the rules . I think melanie should get in trouble tomorrow. I am still trying to figure out how all these evil people met up with each other.
Of course I said that on Twitter 3 days ago! She's manipulative controlling and demanding- and those are summer better qualities!
This case is nuts. The investigators must have been bug eyed for 3 years.
Melanie did that on purpose, so she didn't need to testify.
I think it's entirely possible that you're correct and that she is not necessarily a cooperating witness but a hostile witness for the state. It's also possible that since she's in court against her ex regarding her kids that she had no self control and just had to look into what her ex had testified to in regards to herself for her own personal case. Until you've been involved in a contentious court case (especially over your kids), it's hard to understand how much that can consume your thoughts and life.
I think Melanie is as evil as Lori and I believe she was the second person in the vehicle with Alex when he was shot at ! She needs to be questioned and treated as a hostile witness period ! And if I were Ian’s ex wife I would NEVER allow him to see his kids with just him and Melanie . His initial reaction was correct, unfortunately he is ignoring it . That’s his bad 💯, but his children need to be protected.
It certainly appears that way.
@Kathy Peterson I agree totally
It is so sad, Tammy cried out for her husbands name for help. The husband, who should protect her. But this husband wanted her killed. I hope she didn't know what was actually going on when she later was strangled. The horror of finding out that deception in the last seconds of your life.
Husbands don’t always protect their wives… that’s fairy tale stuff
I can’t help but wonder when that ex-friend of Lori’s testified that Lori threatened to kill her, she also said something about that Lori told her that she (Lori) already watched someone take their last breath, and I wondered did Lori mean she watched as Tammy was dying or did she watch as one of the children died or Charles? That part gave me chills and if I was a juror with some compassion for Lori, at that point all compassion would have left. That woman is evil to say the least.
Like Alex Murdaugh’s wife did - unimaginable
@@MissMala I think she was referring to Charles
@@servantwarrior880 Could be, it's hard to say with Lori
Lindsey Blake has the BEST mic drop moments in her direct examinations. She's a fantastic prosecutor, I just love her!
She’s brilliant and makes those men horrible
@@jillking4054 Oh yeah, absolutely. She's very good at her job, and she does it with such poise and professionalism as well.
And if I’m not wrong she’s lost her father in the middle of this case and still is on form.. very good job from the prosecution
She’s fantastic!!!
She is fabulous!! 💫⭐️
Kaaiakamu is clearly unimpressed with the defense team. 😅
Yes, because they chose sarcasm as a strategy.
Fr! I loved when he said: "I said , NO!" After being asked the same question several times.
I cannot imagine anyone other than their mothers being impressed.
Nate-just had to comment to give you super props for all your work on this! following every detail from you since the beginning from the Milwaukee area- keep it up!
I know the defense attyʻs job is to create doubt, but this guy is so demeaning. The witnesses should be commended for not yelling at him.
Yes! Loved it when the detective asked the same question 3 times on the fourth time calmly said: I said no.
Melanie's husband would be wise watching his back with her....not because of present or prior beliefs she held, but because of her behavior in 2018, 19 and 20.
Vengeful and dangerous person.
🎯🎯🎯
Who would marry into this family? 😮 Why would he bring his children around Melanie? 😮
yes he should pack up and move far away with his kids
Yes. He's toast
Agreed 💯👍
Thank You Nate Eaton #EAST IDAHO NEWS and FAMILY.
Detective Vince K. Just put Defense in his place telling him that he just said that. 😮😮😅😅😅
I loved it!😂
The defense keeps pressing after asking two or three times how many feet 150 meters is. Finally the detective says "I just said no." Arrogant defense attorney trying to be so much smarter than everyone in the room. Not coming across that way, little dude.
Enjoy your commentary on this trial! Thank you. Commenting from Topton Pa. Look forward to your report everyday
Defence needs to step back from the mic when he speaks. So hard to listen to the reverberation of the mic
Along with his snotty nose
I couldn’t listen to all of him due to that., I had to skip forward…
Okay I thought it was kinda funny how the defense basically asked the detective “so no one really actually investigated further into any claim?” And the detective just goes “Yep”
One of the defence lawyers has a bad breathing problem
He is sooooo annoying
@@cherylbutler2452 You can here him grunting and breathing heavily when he's on cross
@@jamybailey I thought he was snoring at one point LOLOLOLOL
The dude needs a CPAP machine while he’s awake!! Maybe try a mile on the treadmill, Thomas.
@@cherylbutler2452 hahahaha
Chad went back and picked up the bullet casing (aimed at Tammy)!
He also told Alex when Tammy would be arriving home.
What casing? The gun never fired.
It’s very interesting how different fire arms are treated in this trial vs the Murdaugh trial.
He said, "so for the normal person who doesn't have an assult rifle".....
I can't wait for Chad's trial.
When is chads trail
Listening to the condescending, angry, patronizing, whiney Pig Prior is going to be a struggle for me…🐽
@@KymKeys-p1m not for another year at least.
I’m not looking forward to Defence Attorney Prior and his whining 😒
If Lori is supposed to be so in love with Chad why does it sound like he is the new fall guy. I don't get how this defense tactic would work out if Lori was the one collecting multiple checks from SSA. I think Lori used this religion to figure out who she could manipulate.I also think Chad was also going to end up eventually on Lori's lists of being disposable. Lori's huge smile on marriage photos with Chad to me was not genuine. I think Lori's neice was the only one that wasn't being manipulated cause she was in on the whole thing with Lori.
Leah: What do you think is the responsibility of a defense attorney? The circumstantial evidence of guilt in the Casey Anthony case, was stronger than this case. Yet consider the outcome. So when defense can't refute the evidence, that attorney will suggest someone else committed the crime, or that someone else is more responsible for the crime than the defendant.
The defense obligation is to Lori only, not Chad. Lori, facing life in prison, will not object to any strategy that will get her an acquittal OR a reduced sentence.
Remember, attorneys are officers of the court, but no attorney is required to raise their right hand and swear to tell or present "the whole truth and nothing but the truth."
Leah, learn about court proceedings, the law, grand juries, responsibility or duty of prosecuter and defense attorney, and rules of evidence, before you write anything.
I suspect you are unaware that only the prosecuter presents their case to the grand jury. The defense cannot present anything to the grand jury. So a grand jury's decision to indict or not, is based soley on what the prosecuter presents.
Because Chad's defence is going to pin it on Lori and Alex maybe?
@@pjcat3522 all Alex ..Chad and Lori planned it that way... remember she said after the failed attempt at Tammy....cant he do anything right (by himself/without help)
Holy cow! We are getting to hear the recordings!
Toneless Thomas is doing a bang up job of defending Alex. Has anyone told him Lori is his client?
He's defending Alex because that's where most of the evidence is. The case is a conspiracy case so when Alex is proven guilty, Lori will be guilty if they can prove conspiracy.
In the TV interview Melanie and Ian stated they decided at last minute to get married, yet on the stand Ian stated he asked Lori for Melanie’s hand in marriage. If they only met early November…Lori and Chad had gone off to get married in Hawaii…when did Ian ask for permission to marry Melanie. Lori was gone by the day before Thanksgiving.
Could it be something like to avoid having to testify against your spouse kind of deal or spouse having a different story about what happened? Instead she decided to break the rules and listened to the trial. Unreal
I heard that too. Maybe he feels safe with her cuz he was okay with what happened to BB
Nut bag defense, they are gripping
Thanks
AND THIS...
In an exclusive report on Court TV Live on Tuesday night, journalist Ashleigh Banfield uncovered the mysterious death of Vallow's older sister, Stacey Lynn Cox Cope, who died suddenly in 1998 at the age of 31. Her cause of death was undetermined.
That’s been known about since this case started
Calling Ashleigh Banfield a journalist is like calling Bud Light’s marketing campaign brilliant. I would refer her better as a person who reads sensational garbage whenever a camera is pointed at her.
@@annhenry3135 yet here you are talking about Bud Light…seems pretty brilliant to me 😉
We’ve known about this for years now. Wait until you find out about another sister who died as a child. They called her Lolli.
Sarcasm is never a good strategy to defend, even if innocent until proven guilty…
Oh my goodnessis this defense attorney seriously claiming alexs' searches were for target practice?
Ok Mr defense please explain WHY Alex wanted to know about a bullet going through the exact same vehicle type Tammy drove genius lol.
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@@sheilasmith7779Are you aware that RUclips is a social media platform and not a classroom?
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@@sheilasmith7779 You probably meant "should TAKE care".
You see how silly being pedantic on a youtube comment section is?
@@reefshadow1 No, I said, "should care NOT to....."
Read it again.
Hi everyone, listening in to your reporting from Adelaide, South Australia, Pt 2 day 21. This has been another ever evolving & horrific saga that has caught me by surprise, infact I am gob smacked (much like I was with the WM3 Paradise Lost, & Murdaugh Murder trials) since 2019 when Kay Woodcock was looking for her grandson JJ, chasing her brother's ex wife, a Documentary on Investigation Discovery; Doomsday: the Missing Children, then progressed to the death of a husband, maybe 2, death of Tammy, Chads wife of almost 30 yrs, religious extremism, sex, money/greed; insurance & Social Security fraud, manipulation, Zombies, Evil spirits, End of time, Seances, coercion, lies, multiple murders & much more.
It’s freakin crazy. It worries me about seemingly nice people are monsters in disguise. I hope she goes away for the rest of her life in nasty prison. There will be no redemption for her.
Oh and yeah the paradise Lost case was intense. My friends best college friend works for the prosecutors office in W Memphis. She was there when they were let out finally.
So what's to stop a witness deliberately violating the exclusionary rule in order to get out of testifying??????
Contempt of Court!
Totally agree. To get out of testifying.
Good point.
@@drhyshek l doubt they really have respect for the court or it's processes.
@@DebraBing It’s not about respect, you dunce.
Prosecutor needs to try to put down a timeline of these conversations from Ian…when did Lori and Chad tell them to get out of town?
If they try to explain every little detail that doesn’t directly reflect the crime, defense attorneys love that. Muddy the water, confuse and burden the jury with unnecessary information and get a not guilty with reasonable doubt. They know what they are doing.
A meter is 3’3”. 3.3’ is 40”. I did not go to college and I throw these things.
A yard=36 inches. Add 3 inches that =39 inches total. Not 40
100% agree with you
How many people think she s enjoying all this attention??
That makes me wonder if she'll take the stand after all- of her own volition. Like Alex Murdaugh did.
Plus, so far I really like the judge, seems very professional and polite.
She survived having an assault weapon aimed and "fired " at her only to be strangled days later. 😔
I wonder how Alex screwed up? Was it not loaded???
Uh, yes he was doing other search’s of other unsavory things🙄 Are we surprised❔
I can hear the lawyers fine, but please ask the witnesses to speak up! Put the mic right in front of them.
I cannot listen to this with the number of ads! Ads less than 10 minutes apart for an entire hour and 45 minutes? Made it very difficult to concentrate on the trial.
"Lori did most of the talking".
Audio of defense attorney was terrible
Did I hear correctly that they said Melanie, Ian and Zulema all have the same attorney?
I've never been a part of grand jury proceedings so I'm not sure what questions were asked of Barrantarrio during that or what statements she gave free of questioning, but I think it was a disservice to all that the prosecution wasn't allowed to be the final questioner of this witness in today's trial. I was intensely curious as to what the prosecution would ask and how the witness would answer whatever question(s) were asked of her. And I don't recall seeing her make statements in any pretrial setting but I guess I could have missed that...however I have been following this case since before the children were found on Daybell's property.
Something about having extreme religious views to the point you are able to smile when your children are missing/dead has held my interest in this case all along. I don't agree with what the defense is trying to pull here by trying to place all the blame on Chad. I think that both of them egged each other on and their union made both more volatile. I think that before they met each other they both had some toxic views and beliefs that centered on their religious beliefs. I believe their union fueled each other in equal (and negative) ways and created a pair (or trio if you include Alex) of dangerous serial killers, even if it was birthed as a result of cult beliefs. I fully believe based on what I've learned that they had a grand goal of taking out all "zombies" and if they could have gotten away with it. And I believe they would have deluded themselves into believing they had murdered no person. Think of it as similar the 3rd Blade movie where murdering vampire pets who were human (but beholden to their vampire masters) was of no consequence to the character of Blade and his allies.
I hope I find Ian's recordings to be far more tolerable to that horrid podcast that was played in the trial on Tuesday. Fingers crossed that I don't get totally aggravated by these recordings too. My interest in this case has only increased with time and hasn't dwindled at all.
-Ohio Resident
Lisa: And the significance of your opinion on the evidence presented in this case is....?
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it was the only time to date the questioning went state; defence; state; defence....usually it has been state; defence; state - thought the state always got right of rebuttal when they go first......it was inconsistent, this judge loves to be in control
@@sheilasmith7779 ? If you thought it was so insignificant why did you reply to it?
@@lisasimpson3832 If a person is going to comment, write something meaningful, relevant or interesting.
Comments online are conversations. Add something meaningful to the conversation, not share every mental musing.
Get to the point in one paragraph.
😂 I just said no. 🎤
😂 I loved that!
Thomas seriously needs to work on his speech! It would also help if he knew what he was going to say before he started talking. His comprehension skills could use some work as well. He is beyond irritating with his slurred speech. I am really missing the captions on this video!!! [Edit: Captions were added later - thank you!]
(The way he is badgering Kaaiakamanu would indicate Thomas would be wise to avoid traffic violations.)
So now a trial really turns into a soap: people talking in a court room are "supposed to do this and that" to please the viewers...... can't you just sit back and understand that this is a trial deciding serious matters and is not produced for your personal entertainment
Yeah, fire the actors and do a better casting next time..... :) Why don't you go to Law School and see if you can do it better yourself?
He sounds like an amateur. Just lots of meaningless attempts at causing doubt.
He also seriously needs to work on his physical well being. The dude breathes, walks and talks like he’s moments away from a coronary!!
I wish Tammy would have hit Alex with her clogs! What a shame to spend your life thinking your husband loves you just to be ended by him😢
I think she suspected Chad was having an affair, Margaret. From what I have heard of Tammy's personality, she was a shy woman who did not divulge her private business to others. She must have wondered why he chose not to sit with her in Church, anymore. Women are intuitive and I bet she had a hunch he was playing away from home.
And remember when Lori said "he can't do anything right!" Imagine Chad's surprise when she didn't die.
@@SerenDipity64711 sometimes wives are glad the husband is not at home.
Would be interesting if Lori takes the stand, but I’m quite sure her attorneys don’t want her to. She would incriminate herself with her crazy beliefs.
She would also have to incriminate chad. Not that she would have an issue with that since her defense is based on accusing him of brainwashing
She pleaded not guilty, they can’t call her to the stand. Only if she pleaded guilty she could be called.
@@vladtheimpala218The prosecution can't call her to the stand, but she can choose to take the stand in her own defense.
@@halcyon2017 why would she want to, when she knows and we know she’s guilty? It would speed up the trial that’s for sure.
@@vladtheimpala218 I was clarifying OP's comment. They simply stated that it would be interesting to see if Lori TAKES the stand, not called to the stand.
Great question on redirect about if you put a suppressor on the fire gun can it change the sounds!!!
Absolutely!
Mandy Jackman! Yes Chad's insurance fraud is from the life insurance? 😊
I love this detective's voice and his tone when answering the defense. Sam Elliott- like
Your questions tickle me pink Mr defense attorney
No whooshing!
I cracked up at that one! 😅
Nate no one is reporting on psychic Rev Donna. Sadly,Including you. Why, LDS?! I know that the church,court and community are all heavily involved. But she knew all that happened to Tylee and JJ 6 months before LE did. She helped them out, and then they removed her from the case. My guess was all the pressure from the LDS church. Is this why you haven’t reported about this to?! It’s a huge deal. She was 💯 accurate and dead on. In help solving this case. And everyone knows and acts like she was never involved. She was and they used her to get search warrants and other info. And to just act like she hadn’t been involved is ridiculous. I know the church is “forcing” everyone to keep quiet. But that’s insane and dangerous to cover up. These are facts in the case and it leaves a lot out about what happened in this case. It also shows that Lori was the ringleader in wanting her kids dead. And she was participating in the Murders. Not just knowing and standing by. Huge difference. Everything done in the dark, always comes out in the light. I get the psychic angle, that can make people uncomfortable. But that’s not the point here. She was.💯 accurate before any information came out. And has solved many other murders as well. She’s not some crackpot, on the Internet. She deserves the respect and recognition, for how she helped in solving this case. I truly hope that you do the right thing and report on this. Journalist are supposed to report facts, whether they like it or not. And those are the facts. A huge part of this case is missing. The jury needs to know the truth about this. It’s truly sad. JS! 🙏
Maybe she does not want to be involved?
(And I think Nate has his hands full with what he is doing now.)
why would the LDS have a problem with a psychic? from what I hear LDS religion is worse than psychics! It's all a load of crap and they are scary people. They all smile, speak softly but are demons underneath
@@Mataylor17 I'd say they have plenty of case without a psychic!
There is no proof whatsoever that psychics are anything but fraudsters trolling for the money of their believers. If they are ever correct about anything, it is a fluke, nothing more
Donna Serphina solved the case 4mths before they even found the kids body. U can't deny her facts the accuracy is so on point and during trial now more and more of what she said is coming out to be true
HOLD UP HOLD UP HOLD UP! 42:36 Does he say “Trannys?” That Alex was searching for? 😮 Pretty sure that’s frowned upon in LDS faith.
Yes! I heard it. Offensive term, but if that is what Alex searched for, then that what he has to testify to. I’m surprised. Pretty sure Lori and Chad wouldn’t have liked that.
@@HeatherBarney considering they MADE Melani B (Lori’s niece) divorce Brandon by lying to her that he was gay. (He’s not) They all live in a house of cards. 🙄
Not impressed with this judge.
Why no sound for the judge today?
what are chads insurance fraud charges for please. is it the life insurance??
Yes - Tammy's life Insurances, which were paid out to Chad.
@@argosz8046 oh thank you
she also had a large sum paid out from her workplace. That went to Chad as well.
@@SerenDipity64711 oh thank you
Defenses annoying voice plus his long drawn out sighs right before asking his STUPID QUESTIONS is pitiful. Hard to listen to him be rude!!! Put down the witnesses!!!
Hi just wondering if. Alex Cox is still living??
No, he died. I think around Dec 2019.
I believe he is dead. Who knows what is true in this corrupt tale!
He died the day after Tammy’s body was exhumed, conveniently
I'll bet his and Joe Ryan's bodies will probably exhumed too.
@Mara Stewart too bad they were both conveniently cremated.
No 🔫 guns in court no touching
Why not just bring in an actual paint ball gun for comparison
hahaha that is such a great point!!
I think ms Blake attempted to do that but defense would not allow it and kept objecting over and over( I think it was photos)
A random paintball gun can't be used as evidence because it's not an object that is known to have been used or owned by anyone in this case
Come on judge, this witness, Powlowski, is married to another trial witness.
This is the stuff that appeals of verdicts become overturned.
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You can spot them by their red hat!
Never have heard / or don't recall how far Alex was to Tammy when he approached her with the gun when she returned from clogging class. Anyone?
She was getting things out of her back seat and he was at the back of the car between her and her house. She emailed that to her son. It was in today's part 1
Well I guess they go into it here - as I continue to listen...
@@sheilacrabtree5993 thank you. So really close! Goodness!
Anytime! Glad to help.
AR does NOT stand for Assault Rifle. It is a brand name. Lawyers and police SHOULD know this.
This attorney is annoying! With his scratchy voice and pompous attitude. 🤢
Nate do you think jury will get to see Dsybell property like in Alex Murdoch trial?
Have a good night get some rest 🤍
@@Mataylor17 Where were they murdered?
@@Mataylor17 I'm not sure you can claim with 100% certainty that neither child was murdered there. From what I've watched, no place of murder has been pinpointed.
@@Mataylor17 smh
Yes, if jury Forman requests the viewing on behalf of the jury.
@@sheilasmith7779*foreman
Is her family there supporting her?
My guess is probably her parents..?
No
Thomas should spent less time eating and more time becoming knowledgeable about his profession.
Why does the detective sound hostile????
Hi strippers every bit of emotion from his voice to make the facts clear. He was Never hostile! You read too much into it. He got a little annoyed when the defence was badgering over and over if he knew how many feet 150 metres. He said no once. He said no a second time. And then he said I already said no Not hostile. Just pointing out badgering.
He's not. But if he would have, it would be warranted. Thomas is a complete jerk.
i hate the defence guy - god knows why he needs to voir dire every witness every chance he gets - its like he is trying to say - "see i am soooo much better at foundational questioning than her....." it really annoys me - you want to do that? - be a prosecutor mate - otherwise wait your turn -misogynistic %$&*ole
Cause his client has no defense. He's grasping at straws trying to find something to do
When you zoom on her face ..the left and right of her face reveals so much more .try it
1m= 39 inches...... 3 ft 3 inches I'm blessed or cursed to be the 80's children in Canada to learn conversion from imperial to metric system.....
@35:34 I swear he said " i'm done with this idiot" Oh exhibit ...... dang old age.
Why does this witness sound so arrogant and condescending to the prosecutor?
Which one?
OMG so boring, making my hair hurt. wake me up for the closing arguments and sentencing
District Attorney Blake: “When Lori talked to you about these things were you open to hearing them?”
Ian Pawlowski: “Yes.”
District Attorney Blake: “And why was that?”
Ian Pawlowski: “I, so i, I’m religious. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and a large part of our belief is faith in revelation, and that the church is a living thing, it’s not done progressing, it’s not done growing. Um, and so, part of that is you have to maintain an open mind when new things come, so if I was going to learn something new it would be, either be, through one of the Lord’s servants or I would receive the revelation directly.”
Faith in revelation? I thought it Jesus said to have faith in Him?and Him alone.
Open to new revelation? I thought the Bible says that book is now closed.
Learn something new from one of the Lord’s servants? I thought the Bible warned against trusting revelations from men and trust only in the Word of God…the Holy Bible.
Yes, I am certain, sure and assured that Jesus and the Bible say those things. And that is why I know the LDS/Mormon church is a blasphemous, heretical cult and should be torn down and condemned as such.
Lord, Jesus, the One True and ONLY God, creator of heaven and earth, and all that is within it. I pray you would shut the doors on this dangerous and blasphemous church and save the people within it by the power of YOUR revelation and Word, and through your sacrificial, atonement for the sins of mankind on the Cross at Calvary. In your precious and holy name I pray. Amen.
Totally agree.
But in our country we have freedom of religion
You sound as nutty as Lori and Chad. All religions are just different shades superstitions dating centuries back. Wake up! It’s 2023! Think for your self!
Man she looks rough 😂
That’s all you care about? How the woman looks? Tiny mind.
Thomas should have some knowledge of the topic he badgers every witness on. He's looking like a clown.
Mn I don't know who is starring and sending those hard working.
Wow that went all a rye.
Supposed to be staring at but she has not taken her eyes off who ever.
last two videos the sound is really loud and hard to fix on your device.😭 but thanks for all the uploads! 🙏🏻👍🏻
Some of the others have been to low. Like this better.
Super muffled sounding but also loud..🧐