Hey EVERYONE: If you have a friend who starts stating that people you know are zombies and that they are dark and will die soon CONTACT your local police department immediately. Thats a no-brainer for most of us; just had to put that out there.
@@tracyrobo7606 It was intended to be sarcastic or funny although this is a very serious matter. Glad you understood I was being sarcastic. Some people do not understand my inputs but thankful for you today.
This is insane to me that 2 children were missing and 2 adults killed at the point of the 20 minute phonecall and these people are arguing about who's most righteous!! Nuts!!!
I was thinking the same thing! It felt like a cringey real housewives of the doomsday cult fight scene. There are actual bodies buried in their backyard and they’re fighting over who reads their scriptures more? Gross.
The way Melanie speaks about Tylee is so disrespectful to me. My God, she was a teenager who had an insane mother. Maybe she was defiant or disrespectful but my God, to speak about a murdered child that way just does not sit right with me.
Andrea Melanie was just being honest about their relationship. Tylee is in some ways responsible for her life ,JJ life, Tammy life and possibility for Alex life. Not to mention the attempt on Brandon Boudreaux life. To be honest Tylee lied to investigators and to the police officers on Charles murder. Which if she hadn't lied JJ, and herself (Tylee) and Tammy would be alive today and Brandon wouldn't had to go thru his trauma event. Tylee also had issues in her own behavior. Lori, Chad and Alex are pure evil and justice will be served because of Melanie Gibb.
It amazes me how involved in religion they claimed to be, yet committing adultery, lying, manipulating people, scheming, and plotting and planning multiple murders. It's sickening! After all they have done there is no shame or remorse.
How is this woman not guilty of aiding or conspiring for not alerting authorities? She clearly knew about much of the planning before they were killed.
This is one jury I would love to be a fly on the wall for once deliberations starts lol many media outlets have already said that the jurors are treating this like a science project! Also loris defense is now using the tactic of “call a objection outside of the presence of the jury” I can only imagine the looks they been giving the defense and Lori…it’s honestly a ki!
I lived in Utah and Idaho for thirteen years; except for the murders, there are many people like Chad and Lori who believe that God has given them special revelations. Several men just swore that God had told them that I was their eternal mate, for example, even though we had not dated and I was not a Mormon.
If my friends ever started talking this crazy shit, I would distance myself. Melanie believed everything they were spewing. She's as crazy as Lori and Chad.
Come on, the LDS church is responsible and needs to be held accountable! Lori and Chad are doing the same thing Joseph Smith was doing minus the murders. They just took it to another level. Who knows what Brigham Young did out in the West, he could have been doing the same thing will never know. But they met in the temple, they plotted in the temple, their Bishop who's supposed to have a bead on God as "revelation allows," these murderers and adulterers traipsed on inside the House of the Lord! No problem! The Bishop's let them right in! No big deal ... Well, the church is responsible and they're just as responsible for the flds and should take care of those folks too!
Her adult male partner has a bad dream and she’s immediately on the phone calling to get ‘help’ for him, but a missing 6 year old little boy takes her a week to pick up the phone to talk to investigators. She is a horrible, self entered person.
Also-she slept in JJ’s room. Wasn’t that suspicious? She just told on herself there that she knew. She was just sore that Lori threw a hot coal her way.
@@baddie1shoe yip, dream my arss, She’s never shed one tear for any of these people who lost there life, including 2 children. 👿 i assume she was at the pool party hours after Charles’s death. Now! All the friends play the “stupid card”! I didn’t really believe 🤦♀️ zombies give me a break!
I believe Melanie Gibb's boyfriend David's dream was not a dream at all. I believe he was part and parcel of the murder of JJ that night. I think Melanie is covering for him.
These people have delusions of grandeur. I hate to break it to you Lori, you’re just not that important. I can barely keep myself within the Community Guidelines in these comments re these sick selfish narcissists. How dare they decide who is “dark” or light, deserving of life and death, all in accordance with their disgusting egos?
She said something about being concerned for her soul if she did any wrong I can’t believe she thinks God didn’t see what she did to her children and she thinks that’s not going to “tarnish her” in gods eyes.
Melanie G: For a person now claiming she had doubts about Lori's claims, Melanie did not behave as if she did not believe Lori. Her "doubts," seemed to emerge at exactly the moment Melanie was contacted by police, or learned of policy involvement. This woman is such a liar.
What's the point and why is that so amazing without actually prosecuting.its actually disgusting that she refers to her as that and admits it but doesn't do anything disgusting
Gee, Melanie. Judging by now things ended, don't you think that Tylee was MORE than justified to not like being around her mother or her mother's insane friends?
I watched her early interviews, just as screwed up with church, I wonder if she’s found her head now. I’d be furious and divorce her! She’s just a liar. Totally complicit!
How do any of these people not has knocks at the door checking on who’s dead and whose alive in the lineage? They think killing is justified and called for.
She needs her own trial because she is one of the co-conspirators. Correct, I feel, I believe, I would say.... she is a terrible witness, and the defense team is going to regret having her as a witness.
This woman is infuriating! How on earth could she even listen to a mother say her child had a dark spirit? How do you listen to such crap without saying anything? She should be locked up with the rest. It’s shameful that she did nothing said nothing while this was going on. And now sits there telling all this without shame or guilt. I hope she lives w regret everyday of her life.
And she is still a prepper and married to that nut David Wawrick I would have run as fast as I could from that LDS cult. And she says I don’t think I believe that about zombies you don’t think ?? Normal people with say BS straight up smh
I hope she go to jail for conspiracy if her mouth is open she's lying new husband needs to think about himself not being above the law also he can't be that dumb
Melanie was very well aware of what Chad and Lori believed. The fact that Lori was telling her about spouses dying so then they can be together, all the people related to Lori, Chad's wife , Lori's ex, all are dead and she tells no one? She doesn't go to police? If only someone would have , the kids could possibly have lived. These two serial killers were just able to keep killing. Not one person talked to the cops and said, hey you might want to check out what's going on?? Pretty sad.
Melanie was buddy buddy to try and get laid. When she lied to the police about having JJ and then she changed her mind and recorded that phone call that was just cracked up crazy. Hook up King Chad Daybell.
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
She was involved in several 'castings' for Charles Vallow and others after Charles was murdered. What did she think was going to happen to all the others... especially the children?? She could have contacted someone and reported that there were castings and afterwards some of those people died.
@@susy590 and what do you think would have happened? Her own husband was begging the police to intervene and help him do something. His son was missing, and nothing. The children were missing for how long and nothing happened? The Vallows did try and warn them and nothing. Melanie is lucky she isn’t dead, and we are lucky that she is alive to help explain all this craziness bc Lori and Chad sure as heck won’t.
She only told the truth once she was directly involved, prior to that she had no problem with these people being murdered. She knew those kids were dead and said nothing.
David 100% true. All these people are trash. Castings, elements, warriors, gathers - these people been playing too many video games. They need to try and read the real Bible. Teenage child taking care of an autistic brother and they wonder why she is rebellious? Maybe Lori should have tried being a wife and mother instead of a whore.
Melanie Gibb Lori Vallow Trial CO-CONSPIRATOR PROOF. Melanie Gibb testifies at Lori Vallow Daybell trial: ruclips.net/video/UHQRpc9Lukk/видео.html TRANSCRIPT: believed that they had been married in multiple probations on this 11:12 I'm gonna object has to hearsay judge what's the response from the state 11:18 your honor it's the statement of a party opponent not this opponent 11:25 it's a statement of a CO-CONSPIRATOR all right I'm gonna overrule the objection under rule 801 d2e that does 11:33 allow statements of CO-CONSPPIRATORS and furtherance of evidence of a CONSPIRACY 11:39 that's how that's allowed Miss Blake I would indicate though that I think there 11:45 may be some additional Foundation before getting further into this issue as to 11:51 whether those statements are allowed thank you governor 11:58 Miss Gibb did you have conversations about their first meeting with Chad 12:04 dabel 12:11 have conversations with him I'm sorry I'm not understanding could you ever speak to Chad about the first time he
so this lady knew that “dark” translated to “were going to kill them, or at least try”. And Lori told her that jj and Tylee were “dark” and she didn’t call the police or interfere in any way while the kids were still alive? So where tf are her charges? She could have saved them 💔
Do you really believe that police would take such information seriously? I agree that she should do something but I doubt that they would do anything. There was no crime
So, Lori is saying JJ went to live with Kay, but practically in the same sentence saying Kay is dark...? Does this lie make sense to anyone that heard it?
Lori said jj went to live with Kay? I remember it was Alex saying that and Lori said Mel had them then wouldn't say where they were but that they are safe.
Police believed her and didn't find something quilty on her interview, her behaviour,in her telephone records etc. She is a moron of religion like millions they are too but all the cultists aren't murders. Chad and lori aren't religious people, they believed that they were but both were sociopaths and narcissists. Melanie was the only one who helped police to find the truth about all this mess of deaths and lies.
Charles went to M Gibb, he was crying and asking for help. Gibb did not help him even if ehe knew the children was missing. Gibb covered for Lori and is deeply involved.
Your friend calls you to tell you to lie to police about their missing child and you don't pick up when the cops call because you 'didn't know what in the world to do'. And this woman thinks she's morally superior and intelligent.
Mel G had the opportunity to back Charles up when he went to the police questioning his and the kids safety due to her mental state. She was with Lori and Tylee at the police station while Lori was wriggling and giggling her way out of a mental assessment based on what Charles had said. SHE made a CHOICE to just go along with it. She is guilty and has blood in her hands indirectly at least.
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
Only Catholic Priests are ordained to perform an Exorcism. They have many years of training. The cult mom thought she was a Goddess already. Can you imagine that two adulterers could seal themselves to each other inside the Gilbert Temple? To the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, please know these heretics do NOT give the church a disparaging name. I’m hopeful Temple Workers more closely monitor individuals when in the Temple as to their goings on. Everyone of these Co-Conspirators should be excommunicated, pronto! Melanie Gibb sounds like she still believes all the PTP pseudo hogwash doctrine. SICK!
@@AdaraBalabusta BS She knew that if someone was considered a zombie that it was a death sentence and did NOTHING to stop killings. She helped Lori hide Charles belongings and thought it was funny. Melanie Gibb was neck deep in all of it. She should be prosecuted as an accomplice. She saw Chad and Lori acting in a sexual manner while he was still married. She knew Tammy was considered a zombie and would be killed..
- it is very obvious that the phone call was self serving, and it's very interesting that we all remember more about what gibb has said and done than she does
Not only that he was sent to Kay, but that Lori was so clever she was going to tell Kay she had cancer to trick the Woodcocks into taking JJ and that it worked. If only she had done that. 😢
Why is this woman not on trial also ? She was at or around every death, she admits to talking to Lori about Charles Life insurance , She helped Lori clean Charles out of all his possessions ( in the jail interview ) was at or around on the date Tylee went missing , Also was the last to see JJ .
Yes. Feel the same way about her. How easy it'd be to recall all those interactions as this instead of participating in the destruction of all these people. She gets to pretend to be innocent and have no repercussions
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮 She was given 100% immunity to Testify.
Them men gonna mess Chad up real bad when he gets sent off to the department of corrections either gen population or death row! His comfortable life is DONE!
@@nenej12 The truest comment I’ve seen on this thread so far. Chad will most def not fair well in federal prison system. I wonder if they will ship him to another state penitentiary like they did Chris Watts?
@@mackcappel844 they most likely will have to send him to another facility because I’m sure most will find who he is once he gets remanded! Them CO guards talk a lot & they talk big ish because they run these facilities along with various groups of inmates…he will be ostracized the only way I see him functioning in a prison say incase he doesn’t get DP is by doing ministry work
This whole thing is horrific, I will never understand how someone anyone could kill innocent children for why because she didn't want kay to have jj which is what Charles wanted for jj.
@@carolyndymond4065 Lori was collecting Social Security being paid to JJ & Tylee long after they were dead. The SS check is one reason she didn't give them up to Kay...
Zulemma was friends with lori, did these CASTINGs, marries alex, 3 weeks later hes DEAD. Witnesses to loris plans tylee, jj, alex all DEAD. I believe zulema is involved in alex death for lori, alex being alleged involved in the kids, Charles, Brandon's shooting, chads wife had gun in her face 3 weeks before chad murdered her, my pinion. Melanie gibbs did nothing to save those kids, knowing lori said they were zombies. Knowing about lori chad saying zombies bodies need destroyed. Melanie knew those kids were in danger she's complicit
@@suzitee8225 yes they were I have been following this story since day one . I could not believe that no one came forward to protect those kids when they were missing for over eight months .
I think she believed the LDS stuff, which has a lot of prepping for the end-of-days stuff AND which is so disempowering to women, it probably felt amazing to be part of the elite dream team who could know things before the church leaders (all men) and who had the power to cast out demons (who inhabited only persons she didn’t know or like). She’s probably a lot less naive and proud now!
Melanie was in our massage school, i just happened to see her on RUclips once shared it with a classmate who knew about This crazy story but didn't know she was involved. I dived down the rabbit hole and with small experiences with Melanie at school and watching more videos, i tried to avoid her like the plague and she knew it and it pissed her off haha. I told a few classmates about it but told everyone once i heard her trying to convert a girl to Mormonism in class. She is such a hypocrite, says she never lies and doesn't know how to manipulate, but from what i saw in person and RUclips she does both often enough.
I think all these people have a screw loose. If they would fall for this crap they would fall for anything. Melanie sure has a bad memory. If I was involved in any such nefarious dealings I would sure be for remembering every detail - if for no other reason the trauma of it all.
I don't think Chad fell for anything. I just think he would say or do ANYTHING to get some 'strange'. As my Grandma always taught me...."A hard 'd...' has no conscience
I can’t believe how many times she doesn’t remember all these important facts. It seems like if she remembers it show she was involved in the bizarre and ridiculous beliefs. She is a liar like Lori plus all the other women involved. If they gave immunity to Melanie Fib what the heck is the point, she doesn’t remember half of what happened???? They all make me sick. It’s like they are 10 yr olds Very Weird 🥸
Most people can't remember exact times of things or what was said. Who would ever think you would need to write down every little thing in case you are asked later. It sounds like she has a normal memory.
All this happened 4 or more years ago and most of it happened long before anyone realized that there seemed to be serial killing involved. Most of these people were dragged in little by little, sort of like they were being "groomed" for the cult. Granted that many of these people seem to be extremely credulous and therefore mighty vulnerable to any snake-oil salesman/woman who wanted to rope them in, and the cult-masters made a real point of flattering their members to the point of absurdity, making these people feel oh-so-special. And that "specialness" is pretty much all they thought they needed to remember. So there wasn't much in the way of dates, time, places that would seem to be worth remembering until all the sick crap fell out. Some people think that Melanie is trying to cover for Lori, but I think that any covering she's doing is for herself'. Melanie came mighty close to being an "Accessory After The Fact" or whatever they call it in Idaho. Lori and Chad suckered her in pretty well.
All of those people are insane. Lori and Chad keep telling to the group that their spouses have to die for them to be together and none of those people go to police or find it disturbing. I feel so bad for the children, they must have been suffering a lot.
She took away JJ’s dog who helped him so much. Then she killed Tylee. All this after first murdering his loving father, Charles. Her cruelty is beyond measure.
Melanie Gibb 'I'm always kind except when I'm appealing to my sky wizard for the death of little children, and obstructing a police investigation in those children's disappearance'. What a despicable creature.
How could she believe that so many family members where “ possessed” and she knew the spouses were dying all of a sudden. How could no one be worried except the men.
How is Melanie Gibbs not arrested as a co-conspirator? She knew everything, did nothing to stop it. She was fully onboard with everything Chad and Lori were doing and with Chad's new religion. She's just as guilty as they are.
Oh Melanie...U were so in on this whole non sense...that Lori and Chad fed to u.U Melanie Gibb and a few others were totally on board and involved.U were on ur way to forming ur own sect of oddballs.Melanie Gibb was involved with this lot , for a pretty long time...to now say , that she never bought into their odd behaviour.If Melanie Gibb thought ,they were so odd...she would not have travelled cross country to go and visit and attend this odd religious meetings.
@Nonme, exactly! She ranked 3rd in their higharchy cult! The only reason she desired to snitch is because she didn't want to go to prison for accessory ! She is as guilty as the other 3! I bet the LE told this witch that if she didn't testify for the state that she would be charged with accessory!
@Cynthia Carter I think you're probably right! Because she knows way more than she's saying. Even when she did that long interview, it was obvious she was lying and hiding things.
i don’t know what she knew before or after the fact, but i DO know she only came clean to law enforcement when she was worried about her own ass being thrown under the bus. In all honesty, if she DID (or does) know something, she was probably terrified she might be next on the list to be snuffed out. I’m totally suspicious about her 3rd husband’s and Alex’s death. They both look like classic poisoning cases to me, which is the most common way women kill
@@Lau_rynn yes she did. Watch that big interview she did. She says it a couple of times. Her and her partner are creepers. I watched it with my own eyes heard it with my ears. So your wrong wrong wrong
I loved the cross examination! When Melanie said something incriminating he would pause. I don’t think the jury missed what he was trying to convey to him.
This defense attorney is up against an unwinnable case. There is just no way on this earth that she will be found innocent. There are too many witnesses to her insanity. He can all he wants to discredit the witnesses, but the preponderance of the evidence will win out in the end.
Melanie's part in it was obvious from the first RUclips videos prior to trial. MG isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. She was being used and went along with it until she realized Lori was framing her. Melanie had enough snap to cover her tracks and record a phone call with Lori to try to clear herself of actual involvement that is, she was wasn't part of the actual murder or cover up, she just didn't report information prior to that which might've prevented the murders. Melanie obviously understood the red flags with Charles Vallow's death and did nothing.
The defense attorney asking for Melanie's testimony to be stricken reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar: "I object!" Judge: On what grounds? Jim Carrey: Because it's devastating to my case!"
Had he done his homework, he could have blown her credibility to smithereens but I don't think he had the time with Lori not waiving her right to a speedy trial.
Melanie is a prolific liar. Her lies have caused a sudden loss of memory. Remember her interview with Nate Eaton? She acted so innocent and unknowingly of what was going on with the Daybells. She even, imo, tried to be seductive in that interview. The devil wears many guises eh? Let us not forget that Melanie doesn’t have custody of her children.
@@michelleroche7655 naw she just saw every ‘dark’ person dropping like flies yet didn’t say a word to anyone about it. Maybe if she had, those two kids would still be here.
The way Lori Sits up in Court, Smiles, Chats &. Laughs with her Attorney's, whilst All this Horrific Evidence is being Presented, is just Astounding.☹️
Lol😂 on top of that, she didn’t want to be there for the second half of one of the days because of her ‘mental health’ 😢 I think the mental health argument is far gone at this point, mental or not, look at what you did to these children, look at it and wallow in your own self pity. I liked the idea of tying her to the chair and gagging her…. 🎉
@eastidahonews Thanks for keeping us up to date. You’ve covered this case far more than any other news station. I started following back in 2020 when story broke. Watching/listening from California.
Is this grown-arse woman witness or the other 1 who walks into a situation where 2 other adults are fighting, one has a gun, there is a teenager with a baseball bat and an autistic child who may be confused and scared by the noise and chaos, and her 1st response is not to get the children out but afterwards doesn't even know where they went.
Does anyone feel like Gibb is holding back. Attorney is dragging the information out of her. She remembered more when being paid to speak with Nate. I would have wrote down the information. Read over it before this court date. She is holding back.
I don't understand people. Like how did they think they would get away with two kids disappearing? People wouldn't notice, wouldn't care, wouldn't try to find them.....?? All they had to do was let Jay Jay go to the grandparents and let Tylee go to college and they'd have been free of them, without hurting them. So bizarre.
Chad took JJ upstairs and when they came back down JJ's neck was red from him allegedly scratching himself. My god, that made me sick to my stomach to hear. That poor child must have been absolutely terrified of Chad.
Her testimony...if we can call it that, was pointless. The number of times she just forgets really pisses me off. Melanie was complicit the entire time, as was Lori, Chad, Alex and Lori's niece Melanie. We are mere humans in this world and nothing more. We don't have magical wands or special powers. No bags of tricks that will handpick life for you.
2:39:25 “i don’t think they believed it at first st,” are probably the truest words MG has spoken in court. Of course they didn’t believe it. Everything thing they did, weren’t done in the name of religion, but our of greed, hunger for power and lust!!! Truly despicable 🤬
@Courtney Gaertner...In my opinion that's giving Melanie G too much credit. She only drew the line at potentially being accused of having something to do with the kids' disappearances/murders. She is completely self-serving.
she didn't draw the line at the kid's disappearance - not only did she take a couple weeks to alert police after JJ disappeared, but she also only did so after her then husband convinced her she had to (resist giving him credit for that - he's as much a whackadoodle as the rest of them, he just may have realized she could be legally implicated if she didn't talk first). Plus, she didn't draw the line at the kids being deemed 'zombies' even though she knw *full* well 'zombies' have to be killed, according to these twisted freaks. If MelG had any conscience, moral compass or even just an adult-level sense of responsibility, she could have acted to stop *all* those poor people being murdered - kids and adults alike. She's a self-serving, lying, manipulative, spineless snake
This court artist is actually very good, and I’m glad they were chosen. It helps me to visualize some of what is going on with the lack of cameras in the courtroom. It’s also really nice to have audio so we can hear the whole proceedings as they’re happening.
I'm shocked with this cross examination. The attorney should have been more intimate with the questioning especially after in a police interview melanie accidentally said that before charles was murdered he was supposedly going to get into a car accident and " Brandon was going to hide the body" which makes no sense. She miss spoke but the fact that she even mentioned anything about conversation regarding hiding bodies shows her involvement or dishonesty.
They could have blown Gibb's credibility out of the water had they done their homework. I believe they didn't have time though as she never waived her right to a speedy trial. I expect Prior won't be so gentle though. Edit: by she I mean Lori
Mel is still on it!!!! Now she is saying Lori knew about the change in life insurance before Charles died. That is not what she said before. She is still in on it!!!!
Thanks for pointing this out because I thought Lori only knew about Kay getting the life insurance money AFTER Alex murdered Charles and Lori tried to collect Charles’ life insurance payout. I wonder if Melanie made a deal with the government to tell the truth in court or be prosecuted for being part of the murder of Charles.
So many red flags about MG’s participation in all of this. She seemed to never have warned anyone about any of it, seemed happy to be included, and seemed to condone it all, until LVD and CD were in trouble, so no not falling for the “whoas me I didn’t know it was this bad” act. Once LVD and CD realize there is no way out for them, I hope they’ll tell the truth about everyone involved.
@@edcpike She’s really trying to save her ass , even with her immunity deal, the court of public opinion is just as harsh so she’s downplaying as much as she can!
There are so many videos of her telling this over the years to police and news reporters, so yes, it was practiced. I’m watching this to see how different, if any, it is from the one I watched that was just before the kids were found (that was with Nate Eaton from East Idaho News).
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
It's hard to believe that this is the same Melanie that testified about Chad. My God it's like she's a different person she's acting like she can't remember anything. There's something very fishy going on here. This woman was knee deep into everything there's nothing Lori didn't tell her. I also think that Chad planned on Melanie being his second wife.
Yea Melanie G is not giving the same testimony that she did in Chad's pretrial hearing. Can they get her for perjury? Bc she's acting like she doesn't remember as well & we all know she was a busy body....talking about this to anyone that would listen
Hearing Chad compare himself to Harry Potter when Harry was living under the stairs REALLY shows you where he gets his childish zombie stories from. Imagine the embarrassment of the other adults that bought into his baby fairy-tales, now the whole world knows...
@@Veruska75 well I didn't know that, not surprising though. I do know that they have you confess deep, dark secrets as a part of them "absolving" you of terrible things, then they use it as blackmail. Then you can never leave & must keep paying. They have Travolta by the testes....
Ok. Lock her up. I have heard enough. When Tammy “passed”… She suffocated…. Charles gets double tapped in the chest with a bullet in the floor… They id the jeep utilized in murder attempt on Brandon…(Tylee’s) Big mel was sent to find Brandon after he went into hiding. (Conspirator?) Tylee is in BYU and JJ is a zombie during your week end romp with David…. 4 ? calls to Lori on hours long drive but no conversation with David about a 6 y/o autistic child being called a zombie?? And you still avoid/lie to investigators regarding whereabouts…No big mel…Religion lady…stop it.
I've heard that absolutely hysterical recorded phone call of Mel and Lori slinging scripture at each other like battle rap bars so many times and it's one of the most ridiculous, passive-aggressive things I've ever heard, lol.
Is this a murder trial for Tylee and JJ? Why are there almost no questions about them and Loris relationship with them? Where were JJ and Tylee during Loris absence when she was moving across the country? I know JJ was with Charles alone for two months after Lori abandoned her family. How did she get JJ back? HOW? Who was taking care of JJ while these people spent all day in the temple? It was Tylee. Who had to drive herself alone while trying to follow her mother across the country? It was Tylee. In any other trial the focus would be on the victims and their relationship with their murderer. Yes, its important to know the context of how all these things came to be, but where were the kids? How can a jury believe she killed them if the prosecution doesnt clearly show her abandonment of them prior to their deaths? How can they know what kind of mother she really was if we dont know anything about what the kids were experiencing,? And why wasnt Melanie more concerned about what was happening with the kids while seeking attention and followers through their podcast and constantly "praying" together. Ill tell you one thing Jesus doesnt want, he doesnt want parents to abandon their kids while all the other adults standby and enable neglect. When I hear Melanie, I hear a woman who is embarrassed, feeling put out and trying to cover her own a**. What I dont hear is sadness for what happened to those kids, as well as the role she played in their abandonment. Shes being vague for a reason.
I don't know too too much about this case; so I am trying to listen as a juror would. I was confused with Kay & Melanie talking about Lori disappearing for months & moving around the country for (3-6 months?) I am thinking where is Tylee during all this time & JJ was with Charles while Kay was helping Charles with JJ? I am not understanding how & why Lori was able to have custody of JJ once she returned? I wonder after months of Kay helping Charles 'why' Kay & Larry didn't fight Lori for JJ after Charles died? I mean yes Lori 100% is guilty, but I am wondering why so many people looked the other way? It's all so sad for those kids....it just seems like more people could have stepped up to do more...
@@kiki07717 I think somehow Lori tricked Charles and Kay, and Kay must have been under the impression Charles was ok with Lori having JJ, OR Lori actually took JJ at the same moment she murdered Charles and wouldnt give him back to Kay because she was angry Kay got the life insurance money. Kay says she had been asking for JJ, but Lori was his legal guardian and her hands were tied. Lori would not let Kay see JJ or tell her where he was at and thats why Kay was the one who contacted the police. Kay figured out they were in Rexburg because she was able to get into Charles Gmail and saw Lori had bought herself a wedding ring, with Charles money, while Tammy was still alive. Thats why the Rexburg PD started looking for them. Its also where all the murders took place. I think Lori killed JJ to spite Kay. Loris dishonesty, manipulation and need for control are so obvious on that call. She clearly did not believe her own BS, but was using it to control others to get her Hawaii wedding. But I have no idea where the kids were, why they were with her again or what they were going through because everyone is focused on this affair, this group of people in this cult and their beliefs/justification for these murders. Im hearing almost nothing about the victims. The whole thing is a bizarre mega drama. The prosecution has been blowing this case. They wanted to try all defendants for all victims at once, so no one is really getting a thorough trial. I think its good the judge separated the trials, but its still messy. It already almost became a mistrial because the prosecution dumped thousands of pages of evidence three weeks before the trial.
So obviously I don’t know much BUT I believe that the state doesn’t believe that Lori killed the kids by hand herself but that she was kind of the puppet master (along with Chad) so I believe they trying to prove beyond reasonable doubt she played a role in their murders. I believe she even has an “alibi” that she was in hawaii when they were killed. Just trying to figure out the states argument and that’s just my guess. But I agree there is barely any talk about the kids I just think this is just the beginning and they are laying the foundation.
@@Elevendyeleven just horrible....I typed out a few more responses to you but I am not sure I am doing it correctly? I feel just horrible for Kay & Larry
Agreed plus lori got money from Tylees dad (Joseph Ryan) social security and jj got it too from Charles. Lori continued collecting her kids benefits after she had them murdered
We have waited so long for this!! I know many ppl have mixed views of Melanie G. But, Melanie holds the key to help convict this Monster of a Mother.. Thank you Melanie Gibb for doing the right thing!!
Exactly! People are b!tching and complaining about her but without her this could turn into another Casey Anthony as it's blamed on mommy dearest's brother.
@@dualityreality369 you’re right. She’s only back tracking and trying to save her own ass. She’s just as guilty as all the others. So many people not charged, it’s insane
So, let me get this right. She was married to Moroni (the guy at the top of all Mormon temples) in a previous life. Then, Moroni turns up in the temple, with Jesus, and seals her and Chad together for eternity. Surely, she was sealed to Moroni back in the day. Does that make her a polygamist? They really didn't think anything through, did they! Just made things up as they went along, and gathered themselves followers who were as wicked as they were.
@@dualityreality369 Polygamy is for men, only. Men can marry more than one women, but not women to multiple men. Not in the LDS church anymore though, just the break of groups.
ALL Mormons believe in polygamy. Those who don't practice it in earth life (because it is against the law) believe they will have it in the "Mormon celestial kingdom (the Mormon version of Heaven).
@@trubrit5036 their cult was also going to allow women to have priesthood and hold more power than traditional Mormonism. Just ask Julie Rowe who was trying to collect herself a harem of men.
She stole the phone out of Charles car. I never heard that before this. The story before was that Charles left his phone inside and had to go back inside to get it.
Lori Vallow’s entire philosophy is: “Jesus loves me more, so any person who disagrees with me deserves to be terminated. I am allowed to lie, deceive, poison, dismember, cheat, incinerate and steal…for Jesus.”
You just wouldn’t believe how many people religious preppers many of them Mormon there are out there. Preparing for the ‘end of times’. They listen to people like Julie Rowe who says she is a prophet and predicts earthquakes and disasters. They talk about refugees from California, not overseas, walking from Cali to join the 144,000 for the return of Jesus. It’s insane how many people follow these ridiculous so called holy leaders. It is time for churches Mormon and regular Christians spoke out against this it is not harmless when people get duped into parting with their savings and sometimes families to join these people.
They should have asked her did you help Lori hide Charles' belongs? She would have to answer Yes if she is under oath. Charles came back to pick up JJ and his vehicle was gone as were his clothes. Melanie Gibbs helped with that. This was the time he was killed and why he had a rental car that day.
Melanie has probably made a deal with the prosecutor for her testimony. That would mean that certain questions would not be asked and certain incidents are off limits. Melanie was in pretty deep with this entire plot. I think she made that recording of her confronting Lori and Chad to cover up her own culpability.
She is talking to Lori the day before Charles died about life insurance than Melanie leaves and the next day Charles gets murdered ! Was present during JJ last night alive . Now She was with Lori around Kylee death . Wow no wonder this woman went into hiding . She is one guilty woman .
Hey EVERYONE: If you have a friend who starts stating that people you know are zombies and that they are dark and will die soon CONTACT your local police department immediately. Thats a no-brainer for most of us; just had to put that out there.
Duh!?
And what will the police be able to do?
@@ahermannbluedo a behavioral assessment to determine if they are a danger to themselves or others. Possibly prevent a murder!
@@CatalinaFOIA All they would have to do is act sane for the cops. Easy-peasy.
Most likely the cops will say they can’t do anything until a crime has been committed.
So divorce wasn’t Gods will , but murdering their spouses and innocent children was. Those 2 are beyond evil.
Well, God evidently wanted Lori to inherit her husband’s large insurance policy but Satan interfered and he changed his will.
@@dianewilliams9729sorry but that made me laugh.
@@tracyrobo7606 It was intended to be sarcastic or funny although this is a very serious matter. Glad you understood I was being sarcastic. Some people do not understand my inputs but thankful for you today.
That’s what I was thinking!!
Exactly 👏 well said
This trial is one that absolutely should have been televised live from courtroom.
Actually, I disagree. It's not a circus.
I agree completely, only reason I see why they wouldn't is cause of Chad's trial, but other than that people need to see what Lori did.
Yes, I am very much interested in court proceedings & I wish I could visually see it in real time.
Even if it was televised, not much of the photo evidence is shown.
Does anyone know why it's not being televised?
This is insane to me that 2 children were missing and 2 adults killed at the point of the 20 minute phonecall and these people are arguing about who's most righteous!! Nuts!!!
I was thinking the same thing! It felt like a cringey real housewives of the doomsday cult fight scene. There are actual bodies buried in their backyard and they’re fighting over who reads their scriptures more? Gross.
yeah, and who has less carnal desires cause THAT'S what's important to them. 🤮
I agree we are not getting to the point of course.
@@lyndsey6040 "real housewives of the doomsday cult" You nailed it in the head, best nickname ever lol!!!
Religion.
The way Melanie speaks about Tylee is so disrespectful to me. My God, she was a teenager who had an insane mother. Maybe she was defiant or disrespectful but my God, to speak about a murdered child that way just does not sit right with me.
Melanie hated Tylee. You can absolutely tell.
This is all overwhelmingly sad.
I thought Melanie’s description of her relationship with Tylee was very odd. 🚩🚩🚩
Maybe that's how Tylee acted. Some teenagers are disrespectful to their parents, the parents let them get away with it.
@@V.Oakley I do understand that but this little girl is dead. She didn’t even get a chance to outgrow that bc her mother had her murdered.
Andrea Melanie was just being honest about their relationship. Tylee is in some ways responsible for her life ,JJ life, Tammy life and possibility for Alex life. Not to mention the attempt on Brandon Boudreaux life. To be honest Tylee lied to investigators and to the police officers on Charles murder. Which if she hadn't lied JJ, and herself (Tylee) and Tammy would be alive today and Brandon wouldn't had to go thru his trauma event. Tylee also had issues in her own behavior. Lori, Chad and Alex are pure evil and justice will be served because of Melanie Gibb.
It amazes me how involved in religion they claimed to be, yet committing adultery, lying, manipulating people, scheming, and plotting and planning multiple murders. It's sickening! After all they have done there is no shame or remorse.
She more or less blames Lori for her beliefs but she had them well before she met her imo Lori and her were two peas in a pod according to Adam Cox
@@TeeJayNZ yep! I totally agree.
But if "god" says so,it's ok. Anybody can say God told them something or they had a prophetic dream. It's all bs. All of it.
Frightening how people can look good on the outside and talk about God and be corrupt and delusional on the inside.
Typical LDS!
How is this woman not guilty of aiding or conspiring for not alerting authorities? She clearly knew about much of the planning before they were killed.
She prob got immunity forctestifying her, zulema and Brandon are key witnesses to this crazy😊
Yes she got immunity for snitching and working with police
Bc she taped that phone call. That's the Only reason.
was not she at Lori's house the night JJ was murdered???? Did she not notice the child was gone?
I thought she saw Alex carry sleeping JJ out of the house?
The jury is probably just over there thinking; "this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S" 👏🏽
🍌🍌🍌🍌All of it is bananas 🍌🍌🍌🍌
😂🤣😂🤣
This is one jury I would love to be a fly on the wall for once deliberations starts lol many media outlets have already said that the jurors are treating this like a science project! Also loris defense is now using the tactic of “call a objection outside of the presence of the jury” I can only imagine the looks they been giving the defense and Lori…it’s honestly a ki!
More like this is f- Uped!
I lived in Utah and Idaho for thirteen years; except for the murders, there are many people like Chad and Lori who believe that God has given them special revelations. Several men just swore that God had told them that I was their eternal mate, for example, even though we had not dated and I was not a Mormon.
If my friends ever started talking this crazy shit, I would distance myself. Melanie believed everything they were spewing. She's as crazy as Lori and Chad.
Especially if it started to involve children omg
Yes she was and still is.
She’s a cuck. I agree
Come on, the LDS church is responsible and needs to be held accountable! Lori and Chad are doing the same thing Joseph Smith was doing minus the murders. They just took it to another level. Who knows what Brigham Young did out in the West, he could have been doing the same thing will never know. But they met in the temple, they plotted in the temple, their Bishop who's supposed to have a bead on God as "revelation allows," these murderers and adulterers traipsed on inside the House of the Lord! No problem! The Bishop's let them right in! No big deal ...
Well, the church is responsible and they're just as responsible for the flds and should take care of those folks too!
Took the words right out of my head. What a nutbolt.
Her adult male partner has a bad dream and she’s immediately on the phone calling to get ‘help’ for him, but a missing 6 year old little boy takes her a week to pick up the phone to talk to investigators. She is a horrible, self entered person.
Also-she slept in JJ’s room. Wasn’t that suspicious? She just told on herself there that she knew. She was just sore that Lori threw a hot coal her way.
Self-entitled might be what you mean. Self-entered connotes an insertion of an object into one’s own orifice. Works either way.
@@annohalloran6020the c just didn’t take. We’ve all done thar
@@baddie1shoe yip, dream my arss, She’s never shed one tear for any of these people who lost there life, including 2 children. 👿 i assume she was at the pool party hours after Charles’s death.
Now! All the friends play the “stupid card”! I didn’t really believe 🤦♀️ zombies give me a break!
I believe Melanie Gibb's boyfriend David's dream was not a dream at all. I believe he was part and parcel of the murder of JJ that night. I think Melanie is covering for him.
These people have delusions of grandeur. I hate to break it to you Lori, you’re just not that important. I can barely keep myself within the Community Guidelines in these comments re these sick selfish narcissists. How dare they decide who is “dark” or light, deserving of life and death, all in accordance with their disgusting egos?
Ego s & lust! Sick!There are others who believe this I read.
100%
Wasn’t there something in scripture about humility?
And religion/cult
She said something about being concerned for her soul if she did any wrong I can’t believe she thinks God didn’t see what she did to her children and she thinks that’s not going to “tarnish her” in gods eyes.
Melanie G: For a person now claiming she had doubts about Lori's claims, Melanie did not behave as if she did not believe Lori.
Her "doubts," seemed to emerge at exactly the moment Melanie was contacted by police, or learned of policy involvement.
This woman is such a liar.
Absolutely she is!!!
I'm sure she's been guided by a lawyer at this point
Yes she is. Her testimony is different from her interview 2 years ago. I despise this woman
Loved hearing Ms. Blake addressing Gibb as a co-conspirator. Someone finally had the courage to go there. Good job.
Oooooo where does she say that at
What's the point and why is that so amazing without actually prosecuting.its actually disgusting that she refers to her as that and admits it but doesn't do anything disgusting
Gee, Melanie. Judging by now things ended, don't you think that Tylee was MORE than justified to not like being around her mother or her mother's insane friends?
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I watched her early interviews, just as screwed up with church, I wonder if she’s found her head now. I’d be furious and divorce her! She’s just a liar. Totally complicit!
@@LB-id6wf I don't know about her being complicit but she was deceived.
Call me a dummy but I’m in Alabama to my knowledge LDS is not a large thing here I do know it is in Utah and those such places 😊
@@LB-id6wf Her husband is a quack too
Melanie always tries to distance herself from Laurie but she was neck deep into all Laurie and Chads teachings.
I agree. I think she was scalp deep. Her brain was definitely submerged😂
Her and the other Melanie, both were so so involved ..they both belong in prison. That zulema too
Believing a cult's weird teachings is not the same as murder. She's definitely guilty of being gullible, but she didn't kill anyone.
Melanie Gibb is a piece of work.
Quite.
Indeed.
How do any of these people not has knocks at the door checking on who’s dead and whose alive in the lineage? They think killing is justified and called for.
Everyone involved seem to all be pieces of work.
She needs her own trial because she is one of the co-conspirators. Correct, I feel, I believe, I would say.... she is a terrible witness, and the defense team is going to regret having her as a witness.
This woman is infuriating! How on earth could she even listen to a mother say her child had a dark spirit? How do you listen to such crap without saying anything? She should be locked up with the rest. It’s shameful that she did nothing said nothing while this was going on. And now sits there telling all this without shame or guilt. I hope she lives w regret everyday of her life.
And she is still a prepper and married to that nut David Wawrick I would have run as fast as I could from that LDS cult. And she says I don’t think I believe that about zombies you don’t think ?? Normal people with say BS straight up smh
I had just said I hate myself for saying ot but I hope the woman never sees another moment of peace
Well said !
I hope she go to jail for conspiracy if her mouth is open she's lying new husband needs to think about himself not being above the law also he can't be that dumb
I agree!
Melanie was very well aware of what Chad and Lori believed. The fact that Lori was telling her about spouses dying so then they can be together, all the people related to Lori, Chad's wife , Lori's ex, all are dead and she tells no one? She doesn't go to police?
If only someone would have , the kids could possibly have lived.
These two serial killers were just able to keep killing.
Not one person talked to the cops and said, hey you might want to check out what's going on??
Pretty sad.
Charles called the police on her multiple times, and the cops did nothing even after he was killed.
Melanie was buddy buddy to try and get laid. When she lied to the police about having JJ and then she changed her mind and recorded that phone call that was just cracked up crazy. Hook up King Chad Daybell.
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
That fat Fred Flintstone look alike trying to justify poor Tammy's death. Evil scum. Having adulterous affairs killing people they are pure evil
That does it Chad and Laurie just deemed Melanie dark darker
Mel needs to be arrested herself she’s becoming extremely vague about stuff she believed in and was involved in.
She's holding back stuff for the book she'll publish after Lori's conviction😆😆
@@liveecarbme do you think?
She was involved in several 'castings' for Charles Vallow and others after Charles was murdered. What did she think was going to happen to all the others... especially the children?? She could have contacted someone and reported that there were castings and afterwards some of those people died.
Yes! She is weighing her words carefully
@@susy590 and what do you think would have happened? Her own husband was begging the police to intervene and help him do something. His son was missing, and nothing. The children were missing for how long and nothing happened? The Vallows did try and warn them and nothing. Melanie is lucky she isn’t dead, and we are lucky that she is alive to help explain all this craziness bc Lori and Chad sure as heck won’t.
She only told the truth once she was directly involved, prior to that she had no problem with these people being murdered. She knew those kids were dead and said nothing.
Secret recording of Melanie. She at least was involved in Charles. ruclips.net/video/An85UC7JUIM/видео.html
David 100% true. All these people are trash. Castings, elements, warriors, gathers - these people been playing too many video games. They need to try and read the real Bible. Teenage child taking care of an autistic brother and they wonder why she is rebellious? Maybe Lori should have tried being a wife and mother instead of a whore.
ruclips.net/video/Ju4GFKR8Vns/видео.html
Absolutely Dave, I can’t stand this woman, she’s a truly horrible person.
Melanie Gibb Lori Vallow Trial CO-CONSPIRATOR PROOF.
Melanie Gibb testifies at Lori Vallow Daybell trial:
ruclips.net/video/UHQRpc9Lukk/видео.html
TRANSCRIPT:
believed that they had been married in multiple probations on this
11:12 I'm gonna object has to hearsay judge what's the response from the state
11:18 your honor it's the statement of a party opponent not this opponent
11:25 it's a statement of a CO-CONSPIRATOR all right I'm gonna overrule the objection under rule 801 d2e that does
11:33 allow statements of CO-CONSPPIRATORS and furtherance of evidence of a CONSPIRACY
11:39 that's how that's allowed Miss Blake I would indicate though that I think there
11:45 may be some additional Foundation before getting further into this issue as to
11:51 whether those statements are allowed thank you governor
11:58 Miss Gibb did you have conversations about their first meeting with Chad
12:04 dabel
12:11 have conversations with him I'm sorry I'm not understanding could you ever speak to Chad about the first time he
so this lady knew that “dark” translated to “were going to kill them, or at least try”. And Lori told her that jj and Tylee were “dark” and she didn’t call the police or interfere in any way while the kids were still alive? So where tf are her charges? She could have saved them 💔
Agree ! She is complicit now acting like butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth
What charge? Hinde sight is 20/20 isn't a prosecuting charge!
@@dirtypossem I believe more were complicit especially with regards to Charles
Do you really believe that police would take such information seriously?
I agree that she should do something but I doubt that they would do anything. There was no crime
No…… she wouldn’t have a legal responsibility to report it. It would be illegal to lie about it to police tho.
So, Lori is saying JJ went to live with Kay, but practically in the same sentence saying Kay is dark...? Does this lie make sense to anyone that heard it?
No sense in this case.Its a bad plot for sure.I m animal person & would know not to bury dead bodies on my own property!
Evil ppl get narrow minded… that’s why prisons are full of master minds who became noodle brains. 😮😂😮
Melanie, Melanie. Liar. How convenient to "forget" such horrific and bizarre events.
( This sketch artist is awful. Just saying...).
none of it makes any sense....
Lori said jj went to live with Kay? I remember it was Alex saying that and Lori said Mel had them then wouldn't say where they were but that they are safe.
I would love to see Lori's face while Melanie is testifying.
I guarantee she is smiling or smirking. Lori doesn’t give a damn
I would too
@@JamesCM86 exactly 💯 she's been smiles this entire time minus when she was pretending to care about jj when graphic images where shown
@@JamesCM86 pppp😅p
Me too I wish cameras were aloud . Crappy
I’ve said this before and it’s still true.
Melanie is not authentic. I have a very hard time believing her.
That sweet whisper of a voice is sickening.
@@annhenry3135 right! Omgggg 😒
She’s just trying to back track and save her own ass.
This sounds like Witchery 😮
Police believed her and didn't find something quilty on her interview, her behaviour,in her telephone records etc.
She is a moron of religion like millions they are too but all the cultists aren't murders.
Chad and lori aren't religious people, they believed that they were but both were sociopaths and narcissists.
Melanie was the only one who helped police to find the truth about all this mess of deaths and lies.
Charles went to M Gibb, he was crying and asking for help. Gibb did not help him even if ehe knew the children was missing. Gibb covered for Lori and is deeply involved.
She is I just think she got immunity for working with police
She should had been an accessory.
@@tayloryvonne6615and they had so much evidence they could have used. I hate that these sick assed Melanies didn't pay for their part in all this
@@tayloryvonne6615they should have reduced her charges but not completely
Great point. I didn’t think of this before!
Your friend calls you to tell you to lie to police about their missing child and you don't pick up when the cops call because you 'didn't know what in the world to do'. And this woman thinks she's morally superior and intelligent.
Mel G had the opportunity to back Charles up when he went to the police questioning his and the kids safety due to her mental state. She was with Lori and Tylee at the police station while Lori was wriggling and giggling her way out of a mental assessment based on what Charles had said. SHE made a CHOICE to just go along with it. She is guilty and has blood in her hands indirectly at least.
She was as crazy as Lori manic as hell at her initial police interviews now she’s trying to weedle her way out of it
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
She knew EVERYONE was going to die and did nothing. She was given 100% immunity to testify.
@@kelliintexas3575 I thought only Zelema had some kind of immunity but not MG ?
@@TeeJayNZI watched the 2 year old interview of her for the first time and it's terrifying these people are walking the streets.
Melanie must not have a heart. The fact that she doesn't cry when talking about the children speaks volumes.
There's something definitely wrong with her...totally emotionless
It was better than the fake crys I have heard.
She said that she didn’t like Tylee…
Brandon B is the most literal example of dodging a bullet I’ve ever heard.
Tammy Daybell also had to dodge a bullet--someone shot at her, too.
Both Melanie's are guilty of conspiracy.
Since when does someone forget and “not remember” the women you drive with on a trip?! She just didn’t want to give their names.
So they were trying to do an exorcism in other words, and Mel was in on it she keeps distancing herself from the ritual
She fed into the delusions.
She s was in deep.
Only Catholic Priests are ordained to perform an Exorcism. They have many years of training. The cult mom thought she was a Goddess already. Can you imagine that two adulterers could seal themselves to each other inside the Gilbert Temple? To the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, please know these heretics do NOT give the church a disparaging name. I’m hopeful Temple Workers more closely monitor individuals when in the Temple as to their goings on. Everyone of these Co-Conspirators should be excommunicated, pronto! Melanie Gibb sounds like she still believes all the PTP pseudo hogwash doctrine. SICK!
Possibly. But Melanie stopped short of participating in a crime and she assisted the police.
@@AdaraBalabusta BS She knew that if someone was considered a zombie that it was a death sentence and did NOTHING to stop killings. She helped Lori hide Charles belongings and thought it was funny. Melanie Gibb was neck deep in all of it. She should be prosecuted as an accomplice. She saw Chad and Lori acting in a sexual manner while he was still married. She knew Tammy was considered a zombie and would be killed..
Melanie was involved in that she did nothing to stop the killing. NOTHING!!!
This insane, strangely "forgetful" liar is out here voting and living among us.
- it is very obvious that the phone call was self serving, and it's very interesting that we all remember more about what gibb has said and done than she does
The story was that JJ was sent to Kay. Then it’s Kay wants to kidnap JJ. Does that make any sense? It’s all so crazy.
Not only that he was sent to Kay, but that Lori was so clever she was going to tell Kay she had cancer to trick the Woodcocks into taking JJ and that it worked. If only she had done that. 😢
Hard to remember what you have said when you start lying
Why is this woman not on trial also ? She was at or around every death, she admits to talking to Lori about Charles Life insurance , She helped Lori clean Charles out of all his possessions ( in the jail interview ) was at or around on the date Tylee went missing , Also was the last to see JJ .
Yes. Feel the same way about her. How easy it'd be to recall all those interactions as this instead of participating in the destruction of all these people. She gets to pretend to be innocent and have no repercussions
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
She was given 100% immunity to Testify.
Evil being
All the evidence they had, and yet all these women who could have saved at least 4 lives, get off scot free
So jjs response to being abused and neglected by chad and lori is why the called him dark.....heartbreaking
Them men gonna mess Chad up real bad when he gets sent off to the department of corrections either gen population or death row! His comfortable life is DONE!
@@nenej12 The truest comment I’ve seen on this thread so far. Chad will most def not fair well in federal prison system. I wonder if they will ship him to another state penitentiary like they did Chris Watts?
@@mackcappel844 they most likely will have to send him to another facility because I’m sure most will find who he is once he gets remanded! Them CO guards talk a lot & they talk big ish because they run these facilities along with various groups of inmates…he will be ostracized the only way I see him functioning in a prison say incase he doesn’t get DP is by doing ministry work
This whole thing is horrific, I will never understand how someone anyone could kill innocent children for why because she didn't want kay to have jj which is what Charles wanted for jj.
@@carolyndymond4065 Lori was collecting Social Security being paid to JJ & Tylee long after they were dead. The SS check is one reason she didn't give them up to Kay...
How is this woman not on trial herself ?
Her and Zulemma (Alex Cox’s wife, of all of two weeks). They were in it up to their necks!
Zulemma was friends with lori, did these CASTINGs, marries alex, 3 weeks later hes DEAD. Witnesses to loris plans tylee, jj, alex all DEAD.
I believe zulema is involved in alex death for lori, alex being alleged involved in the kids, Charles, Brandon's shooting, chads wife had gun in her face 3 weeks before chad murdered her, my pinion.
Melanie gibbs did nothing to save those kids, knowing lori said they were zombies. Knowing about lori chad saying zombies bodies need destroyed. Melanie knew those kids were in danger she's complicit
@@suzitee8225 yes they were I have been following this story since day one . I could not believe that no one came forward to protect those kids when they were missing for over eight months .
She was granted immunity
Good question! We all would like to know the answer to that one.
I really think both Melanie's Zuma are in on this up to their necks And should be charged
Agreed!
Agree
They didn’t murder anyone.
If anyone additionally should be charged it’s Melani Pawlowski for attempted murder of her ex husband Brandon Boudreaux
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 ~ Accessory to the fact.
This witness is so subdued on the stand in comparison to her interview with police where she was acting like she was at a party
She probably taken sedatives she’s not manic today
Exactly what I thought. She sounds completely different. Trying hard to convince the cops she wasn't involved
I think she believed the LDS stuff, which has a lot of prepping for the end-of-days stuff AND which is so disempowering to women, it probably felt amazing to be part of the elite dream team who could know things before the church leaders (all men) and who had the power to cast out demons (who inhabited only persons she didn’t know or like). She’s probably a lot less naive and proud now!
I agree 💯.
Melanie was in our massage school, i just happened to see her on RUclips once shared it with a classmate who knew about This crazy story but didn't know she was involved. I dived down the rabbit hole and with small experiences with Melanie at school and watching more videos, i tried to avoid her like the plague and she knew it and it pissed her off haha. I told a few classmates about it but told everyone once i heard her trying to convert a girl to Mormonism in class. She is such a hypocrite, says she never lies and doesn't know how to manipulate, but from what i saw in person and RUclips she does both often enough.
She’s a complete fool.
Highly manipulate
Yeah her crazy energy vibration speak is a load of righteous crap!
That is another crazy story!
Anyone who feels the need to repeatedly tell the police how innocent she is, probably is not that innocent.
I think all these people have a screw loose. If they would fall for this crap they would fall for anything. Melanie sure has a bad memory. If I was involved in any such nefarious dealings I would sure be for remembering every detail - if for no other reason the trauma of it all.
I don't trust her.
I don't think Chad fell for anything. I just think he would say or do ANYTHING to get some 'strange'. As my Grandma always taught me...."A hard 'd...' has no conscience
I can’t believe how many times she doesn’t remember all these important facts. It seems like if she remembers it show she was involved in the bizarre and ridiculous beliefs. She is a liar like Lori plus all the other women involved. If they gave immunity to Melanie Fib what the heck is the point, she doesn’t remember half of what happened????
They all make me sick. It’s like they are 10 yr olds Very Weird 🥸
Most people can't remember exact times of things or what was said. Who would ever think you would need to write down every little thing in case you are asked later. It sounds like she has a normal memory.
All this happened 4 or more years ago and most of it happened long before anyone realized that there seemed to be serial killing involved. Most of these people were dragged in little by little, sort of like they were being "groomed" for the cult. Granted that many of these people seem to be extremely credulous and therefore mighty vulnerable to any snake-oil salesman/woman who wanted to rope them in, and the cult-masters made a real point of flattering their members to the point of absurdity, making these people feel oh-so-special. And that "specialness" is pretty much all they thought they needed to remember. So there wasn't much in the way of dates, time, places that would seem to be worth remembering until all the sick crap fell out.
Some people think that Melanie is trying to cover for Lori, but I think that any covering she's doing is for herself'.
Melanie came mighty close to being an "Accessory After The Fact" or whatever they call it in Idaho.
Lori and Chad suckered her in pretty well.
All of those people are insane. Lori and Chad keep telling to the group that their spouses have to die for them to be together and none of those people go to police or find it disturbing. I feel so bad for the children, they must have been suffering a lot.
She took away JJ’s dog who helped him so much. Then she killed Tylee. All this after first
murdering his loving father, Charles. Her cruelty is beyond
measure.
@@annebalderston2520 yes I agree...
Melanie Gibb 'I'm always kind except when I'm appealing to my sky wizard for the death of little children, and obstructing a police investigation in those children's disappearance'. What a despicable creature.
Anything to fit her scenario
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Facts…
How could she know all this and not informed the police.
She did. Just too little too late in my opinion
Be aware of those false messiahs in all parts of our society, religion, politics, work and also in families. They are all narcissist psychopaths.
It's why I'm not religious at all. Just be a good person every day.
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All messiahs are false messiahs.
I'd cross the road to avoid Jesus himself if he started making claims.
@@MamaMia.... be careful what you say and think about God. Eventually you will regret it.
How could she believe that so many family members where “ possessed” and she knew the spouses were dying all of a sudden. How could no one be worried except the men.
Also, why did Melanie accept that Lori's kids were zombies & none of Chad's 5 kids were?
She’s like wow, that’s what Chad and Lori said. They must be legit.
This woman is lying she knows/saw more then she is admitting to.
ruclips.net/video/Ju4GFKR8Vns/видео.html
How is Melanie Gibbs not arrested as a co-conspirator? She knew everything, did nothing to stop it. She was fully onboard with everything Chad and Lori were doing and with Chad's new religion. She's just as guilty as they are.
Immunity for ratting them out!
She may have gotten a deal. I kind of recall hearing that a long time ago. Same with Zulema Pastenes, Alex Cox's wife.
I think you are thinking about the OTHER Melanie, Lori's niece.
Oh Melanie...U were so in on this whole non sense...that Lori and Chad fed to u.U Melanie Gibb and a few others were totally on board and involved.U were on ur way to forming ur own sect of oddballs.Melanie Gibb was involved with this lot , for a pretty long time...to now say , that she never bought into their odd behaviour.If Melanie Gibb thought ,they were so odd...she would not have travelled cross country to go and visit and attend this odd religious meetings.
@Nonme, exactly! She ranked 3rd in their higharchy cult! The only reason she desired to snitch is because she didn't want to go to prison for accessory ! She is as guilty as the other 3! I bet the LE told this witch that if she didn't testify for the state that she would be charged with accessory!
She would be way more credible if she'd just be honest about her part in all of it.
She's very frustrating!
If she said her part in all this, she might be in jail too IMO
I agree…she is frustrating…
@Cynthia Carter I think you're probably right! Because she knows way more than she's saying. Even when she did that long interview, it was obvious she was lying and hiding things.
i don’t know what she knew before or after the fact, but i DO know she only came clean to law enforcement when she was worried about her own ass being thrown under the bus.
In all honesty, if she DID (or does) know something, she was probably terrified she might be next on the list to be snuffed out.
I’m totally suspicious about her 3rd husband’s and Alex’s death. They both look like classic poisoning cases to me, which is the most common way women kill
Well she did have that get out of jail free card ( the recording of Lori & Chad )
Chad published Melanie's book! They definitely talked together! She is really trying to downplay her role.
Oh yes she is. She also said nasty stuff about the children. She said she didn't like Tylie
Who knows? Maybe Chad was trying to get himself a second (live) wife.
He did call her "Sweet Melanie". Maybe he and Lori thought it would be fun.
@Loopy she never said that. She said she didn't really know her or spend much time with her.
Even if she didn't like her, so what.
I agree. There is nothing genuine or good about her.
@@Lau_rynn yes she did. Watch that big interview she did. She says it a couple of times.
Her and her partner are creepers.
I watched it with my own eyes heard it with my ears.
So your wrong wrong wrong
I loved the cross examination! When Melanie said something incriminating he would pause. I don’t think the jury missed what he was trying to convey to him.
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This defense attorney is up against an unwinnable case. There is just no way on this earth that she will be found innocent. There are too many witnesses to her insanity. He can all he wants to discredit the witnesses, but the preponderance of the evidence will win out in the end.
@@frelnc Did you mean to her guilt? Because insanity is a win for them.
@MClark Idaho abloshied the insanity plea in 1982! So no chance of Lori winning even if she is a complete lunatic!
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But Lori is not pleading insanity .. she so refused 😂
She adamant on proving she’s not insane . She’s a goddess remember
Melanie should be in jail too!
Melanie's part in it was obvious from the first RUclips videos prior to trial. MG isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. She was being used and went along with it until she realized Lori was framing her. Melanie had enough snap to cover her tracks and record a phone call with Lori to try to clear herself of actual involvement that is, she was wasn't part of the actual murder or cover up, she just didn't report information prior to that which might've prevented the murders. Melanie obviously understood the red flags with Charles Vallow's death and did nothing.
The defense attorney asking for Melanie's testimony to be stricken reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar: "I object!" Judge: On what grounds? Jim Carrey: Because it's devastating to my case!"
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I've said this in my head listening to this case so many times!!❣️👍
Had he done his homework, he could have blown her credibility to smithereens but I don't think he had the time with Lori not waiving her right to a speedy trial.
Melanie is a prolific liar. Her lies have caused a sudden loss of memory. Remember her interview with Nate Eaton? She acted so innocent and unknowingly of what was going on with the Daybells. She even, imo, tried to be seductive in that interview. The devil wears many guises eh? Let us not forget that Melanie doesn’t have custody of her children.
She also did not tell she has an autistic child! I thought that was strange they didn't bring that up.
I didn’t know she had children. Let alone didn’t have custody plus an autistic child?
How did she lose custody of her kids?
She also didn't commit murder against children 🤷♀️ So, she's got my vote.
@@michelleroche7655 naw she just saw every ‘dark’ person dropping like flies yet didn’t say a word to anyone about it. Maybe if she had, those two kids would still be here.
The way Lori Sits up in Court, Smiles, Chats &. Laughs with her Attorney's,
whilst All this Horrific Evidence is being Presented, is just Astounding.☹️
Where are you seeing this? It wasn't televised in the US.
Lol😂 on top of that, she didn’t want to be there for the second half of one of the days because of her ‘mental health’ 😢 I think the mental health argument is far gone at this point, mental or not, look at what you did to these children, look at it and wallow in your own self pity. I liked the idea of tying her to the chair and gagging her…. 🎉
Melanie Gibb I hope you read all these statements cause you need to see how crazy you sound. Who are you to judge other people?
How do you know she's doing this? Are you in the court room or something?
@@dirtypossem Start following Nate Eaton's Daily Live Updates from the Court Room, as he has Described her Behaviours.
@eastidahonews
Thanks for keeping us up to date.
You’ve covered this case far more than any other news station. I started following back in 2020 when story broke. Watching/listening from California.
Is this grown-arse woman witness or the other 1 who walks into a situation where 2 other adults are fighting, one has a gun, there is a teenager with a baseball bat and an autistic child who may be confused and scared by the noise and chaos, and her 1st response is not to get the children out but afterwards doesn't even know where they went.
I would ask Melanie Gibb if she was at the pool party at Lori’s house after they had a “ shoot down and Charles passed away that very day
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Wondering why that wasn't brought up.
OF COURSE SHE WAS UPSET WITH HER MOTHER SHE KNEW WTF HER MOM WAS DOING AND KNEW YOU WERE A SUPPORTER OF HER
Does anyone feel like Gibb is holding back. Attorney is dragging the information out of her. She remembered more when being paid to speak with Nate.
I would have wrote down the information. Read over it before this court date. She is holding back.
She seems very nervous and uncertain tis time.
"She remembered more when getting paid" HA! Ain't that the truth.
Man, I hope the Woodcocks or Coby Ryan find a reason to sue the living 💩out of Melanie Gibb and David What's His Face and Melanie Petrowski.
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I don't understand people. Like how did they think they would get away with two kids disappearing? People wouldn't notice, wouldn't care, wouldn't try to find them.....?? All they had to do was let Jay Jay go to the grandparents and let Tylee go to college and they'd have been free of them, without hurting them. So bizarre.
MG did start asking L about the kids when she started hearing about them being zombies🤷♀️
No one would have noticed or cared for a long, long time if not for the Woodcocks. 😢
If Tylee would have gone to college and JJ to Kay, there would have been no money for Lori to live ok. She would have had to get a job.
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She wouldn't have gotten the Social security checks for both of them.
If JJ was acting out it was due to desertion of Lori and seeing his father being killed. A reaction for most of us regardless of a disability 😥
Tylee being killed too before him and knowing something was off
Plus lori hadn’t picked up his meds for months after Charles died
Lori made out little JJ was acting like a demon climbing up high on the cupboards and looking down at them poor kid probably never climbed on anything
Chad took JJ upstairs and when they came back down JJ's neck was red from him allegedly scratching himself.
My god, that made me sick to my stomach to hear. That poor child must have been absolutely terrified of Chad.
Chad's neck
Yes it was Chad's neck...but still...what the heck was going on?
It was CHAD'S neck that was all red, like there had been a scuffle or thrashing btwn JJ & Chad @ some point
Me too ! God only knows what he did to poor little JJ
Chad's neck was red. He had just strangled JJ. That little boy was never seen again.
Her testimony...if we can call it that, was pointless. The number of times she just forgets really pisses me off. Melanie was complicit the entire time, as was Lori, Chad, Alex and Lori's niece Melanie. We are mere humans in this world and nothing more. We don't have magical wands or special powers. No bags of tricks that will handpick life for you.
I’m glad she admitted to the lie to the police but she seems flip floppy and what’s with her seductive voice? Fame
The voice is common in their culture. It’s expected. Keep Sweet.
@@felicecomplice But, her whole demeanor & voice is soooo different from all her other recorded interviews 😏
@@angelapyle7301 I think she’s sedated def not her manic self
2:39:25 “i don’t think they believed it at first st,” are probably the truest words MG has spoken in court.
Of course they didn’t believe it. Everything thing they did, weren’t done in the name of religion, but our of greed, hunger for power and lust!!! Truly despicable 🤬
Melanie believed much of Daybell's nutty religious beliefs, but she drew the line at the kids' disappearance.
@Courtney Gaertner...In my opinion that's giving Melanie G too much credit. She only drew the line at potentially being accused of having something to do with the kids' disappearances/murders. She is completely self-serving.
@@marieb1422 because she didn't have anything to do with their disappearances/murders. That's where she drew the line.
she didn't draw the line at the kid's disappearance - not only did she take a couple weeks to alert police after JJ disappeared, but she also only did so after her then husband convinced her she had to (resist giving him credit for that - he's as much a whackadoodle as the rest of them, he just may have realized she could be legally implicated if she didn't talk first).
Plus, she didn't draw the line at the kids being deemed 'zombies' even though she knw *full* well 'zombies' have to be killed, according to these twisted freaks.
If MelG had any conscience, moral compass or even just an adult-level sense of responsibility, she could have acted to stop *all* those poor people being murdered - kids and adults alike. She's a self-serving, lying, manipulative, spineless snake
Not AT the kids' disappearance. AFTER the kids' disappearance.
@@drzoos574 Agree.
This court artist is actually very good, and I’m glad they were chosen. It helps me to visualize some of what is going on with the lack of cameras in the courtroom. It’s also really nice to have audio so we can hear the whole proceedings as they’re happening.
Yeah. Utah might’ve been pricks about not taping the trial but thank goodness for east Idaho news
@@EmilyElizabethxoxlol this isn’t going on in Utah.
I'm shocked with this cross examination. The attorney should have been more intimate with the questioning especially after in a police interview melanie accidentally said that before charles was murdered he was supposedly going to get into a car accident and " Brandon was going to hide the body" which makes no sense. She miss spoke but the fact that she even mentioned anything about conversation regarding hiding bodies shows her involvement or dishonesty.
They could have blown Gibb's credibility out of the water had they done their homework. I believe they didn't have time though as she never waived her right to a speedy trial. I expect Prior won't be so gentle though. Edit: by she I mean Lori
Who all has been given immunity? Even Zuelma? I still think Alex Cox's death should be revisited.............
Yes I think he was murdered by his wife.He was the fall guy!
Too much coincidence for it to be coincidence.
i think lori poisoned him. And her 3rd husband
@@denisekinzle1672 Alex wasn’t married. He’s Lori’s brother
@@nancydavis7499 yes, Alex was married to Zelda
Not often you see someone go straight from multiple probations to multiple life sentences.
Ha ha ha!!
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Clever.
Thanks for providing this since boyce is preventing the public from seeing this trial
Him saying “sweet Melanie” is so creepy.
Dang! For “knowing” so much and being a main witness she sure doesn’t recall much. Lots of “maybes,” and “I don’t really know.”
Mel's got a book to write when all this is done😅... got to keep ya'll waiting on the juicy deets.
Especally after all the interviews she has given and Police interviews! Really strange.
She didn't seem to have near as much trouble in her interview with Nate Eaton.
She’s a got damn liar
Who would want to remember? Horrible experience.
Mel is still on it!!!! Now she is saying Lori knew about the change in life insurance before Charles died. That is not what she said before. She is still in on it!!!!
Thanks for pointing this out because I thought Lori only knew about Kay getting the life insurance money AFTER Alex murdered Charles and Lori tried to collect Charles’ life insurance payout. I wonder if Melanie made a deal with the government to tell the truth in court or be prosecuted for being part of the murder of Charles.
This is huge.
not really because she acted in revenge towards that onto Kay and Larry by killing the kids, they only cared about the money and their plans
@@krystlesimard131 That too
How ANYBODY would follow this mindset is unbelievable!
Exactly what I said too. Someone, ANYONE telling me they are like these kinda people I am running in the opposite direction!
So many red flags about MG’s participation in all of this. She seemed to never have warned anyone about any of it, seemed happy to be included, and seemed to condone it all, until LVD and CD were in trouble, so no not falling for the “whoas me I didn’t know it was this bad” act. Once LVD and CD realize there is no way out for them, I hope they’ll tell the truth about everyone involved.
Yeah lets not forget they were “casting”so they hoped people would die like a coven of witches from a bad play.
@@Guitarbarella and even if she didn’t know what the first one was about, she sure did go again and again.
She’s in this up to her neck. I do t believe a word she says. She knew.
@@edcpike She’s really trying to save her ass , even with her immunity deal, the court of public opinion is just as harsh so she’s downplaying as much as she can!
Seriously, what was she doing going again and again to these “casting “ events?
Why does the court artist make everyone look sooo old and haggard. 😂😂😂
Because they are!
She is too calm and too precise. She really practiced her answers.
There are so many videos of her telling this over the years to police and news reporters, so yes, it was practiced. I’m watching this to see how different, if any, it is from the one I watched that was just before the kids were found (that was with Nate Eaton from East Idaho News).
Everyone practices for a trial session.🤷🏻♂️
LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATE. THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE IN PRISON. SHE KNEW THOSE KIDS WERE GONNA DIE AND DID NOTHING. THEY WERE ALL SWINGING AND HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER! 🤢🤮
She waS given 100% immunity to testify.
Any witness has to practice. However Melani is an accomplice, I don’t know how this court doesn’t see it.
It's hard to believe that this is the same Melanie that testified about Chad. My God it's like she's a different person she's acting like she can't remember anything. There's something very fishy going on here. This woman was knee deep into everything there's nothing Lori didn't tell her. I also think that Chad planned on Melanie being his second wife.
I know! We have all seen her interviews and now she doesn't remember details.
Yea Melanie G is not giving the same testimony that she did in Chad's pretrial hearing. Can they get her for perjury? Bc she's acting like she doesn't remember as well & we all know she was a busy body....talking about this to anyone that would listen
She should be charged! Its obvious why she wanted immunity!
PLEASE ASK HER WHY WHY WHY DIDNT SHE CALL THE POLICE!!!!!???????????
It's so obvious.
Hearing Chad compare himself to Harry Potter when Harry was living under the stairs REALLY shows you where he gets his childish zombie stories from. Imagine the embarrassment of the other adults that bought into his baby fairy-tales, now the whole world knows...
Especially when you think about his portal in the closet 🙄 🤣🤣🤣
Ikr. Same with L. Ron Hubbard and scientology. He also wrote sci-fi books first, then they suddenly became true.
@@shelly3829 LOL my husband doesn't follow true crime but whenever I mention this case he asks me how the portal is holding up 🤣
@@Veruska75 well I didn't know that, not surprising though. I do know that they have you confess deep, dark secrets as a part of them "absolving" you of terrible things, then they use it as blackmail. Then you can never leave & must keep paying. They have Travolta by the testes....
Melanie is in on ALL of it , I believe.
She was. Here’s a secret recording. ruclips.net/video/An85UC7JUIM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Ju4GFKR8Vns/видео.html
This woman isn't innocent (Melanie) the fact she kept playing the game until she felt her own life was in danger proves her guilt.
Yes exactly
Yes. She only did the right thing to cover her ass
They all should be tried in court.this woman lied.
Ok. Lock her up. I have heard enough. When Tammy “passed”…
She suffocated….
Charles gets double tapped in the chest with a bullet in the floor…
They id the jeep utilized in murder attempt on Brandon…(Tylee’s)
Big mel was sent to find Brandon after he went into hiding. (Conspirator?)
Tylee is in BYU and JJ is a zombie during your week end romp with David….
4 ? calls to Lori on hours long drive but no conversation with David about a 6 y/o autistic child
being called a zombie??
And you still avoid/lie to investigators regarding whereabouts…No big mel…Religion lady…stop it.
I've heard that absolutely hysterical recorded phone call of Mel and Lori slinging scripture at each other like battle rap bars so many times and it's one of the most ridiculous, passive-aggressive things I've ever heard, lol.
Lmao!
Is this a murder trial for Tylee and JJ? Why are there almost no questions about them and Loris relationship with them? Where were JJ and Tylee during Loris absence when she was moving across the country? I know JJ was with Charles alone for two months after Lori abandoned her family. How did she get JJ back? HOW? Who was taking care of JJ while these people spent all day in the temple? It was Tylee. Who had to drive herself alone while trying to follow her mother across the country? It was Tylee.
In any other trial the focus would be on the victims and their relationship with their murderer. Yes, its important to know the context of how all these things came to be, but where were the kids? How can a jury believe she killed them if the prosecution doesnt clearly show her abandonment of them prior to their deaths? How can they know what kind of mother she really was if we dont know anything about what the kids were experiencing,?
And why wasnt Melanie more concerned about what was happening with the kids while seeking attention and followers through their podcast and constantly "praying" together. Ill tell you one thing Jesus doesnt want, he doesnt want parents to abandon their kids while all the other adults standby and enable neglect. When I hear Melanie, I hear a woman who is embarrassed, feeling put out and trying to cover her own a**. What I dont hear is sadness for what happened to those kids, as well as the role she played in their abandonment. Shes being vague for a reason.
I don't know too too much about this case; so I am trying to listen as a juror would. I was confused with Kay & Melanie talking about Lori disappearing for months & moving around the country for (3-6 months?) I am thinking where is Tylee during all this time & JJ was with Charles while Kay was helping Charles with JJ? I am not understanding how & why Lori was able to have custody of JJ once she returned? I wonder after months of Kay helping Charles 'why' Kay & Larry didn't fight Lori for JJ after Charles died? I mean yes Lori 100% is guilty, but I am wondering why so many people looked the other way? It's all so sad for those kids....it just seems like more people could have stepped up to do more...
@@kiki07717 I think somehow Lori tricked Charles and Kay, and Kay must have been under the impression Charles was ok with Lori having JJ, OR Lori actually took JJ at the same moment she murdered Charles and wouldnt give him back to Kay because she was angry Kay got the life insurance money. Kay says she had been asking for JJ, but Lori was his legal guardian and her hands were tied. Lori would not let Kay see JJ or tell her where he was at and thats why Kay was the one who contacted the police.
Kay figured out they were in Rexburg because she was able to get into Charles Gmail and saw Lori had bought herself a wedding ring, with Charles money, while Tammy was still alive. Thats why the Rexburg PD started looking for them. Its also where all the murders took place. I think Lori killed JJ to spite Kay. Loris dishonesty, manipulation and need for control are so obvious on that call. She clearly did not believe her own BS, but was using it to control others to get her Hawaii wedding.
But I have no idea where the kids were, why they were with her again or what they were going through because everyone is focused on this affair, this group of people in this cult and their beliefs/justification for these murders. Im hearing almost nothing about the victims. The whole thing is a bizarre mega drama. The prosecution has been blowing this case. They wanted to try all defendants for all victims at once, so no one is really getting a thorough trial. I think its good the judge separated the trials, but its still messy. It already almost became a mistrial because the prosecution dumped thousands of pages of evidence three weeks before the trial.
@@HapticFrequencies wow, I can't believe the whirlwind of years she has behind her; I guess a master manipulator....just so heart broken for her kids.
So obviously I don’t know much BUT I believe that the state doesn’t believe that Lori killed the kids by hand herself but that she was kind of the puppet master (along with Chad) so I believe they trying to prove beyond reasonable doubt she played a role in their murders. I believe she even has an “alibi” that she was in hawaii when they were killed. Just trying to figure out the states argument and that’s just my guess. But I agree there is barely any talk about the kids I just think this is just the beginning and they are laying the foundation.
@@Elevendyeleven just horrible....I typed out a few more responses to you but I am not sure I am doing it correctly? I feel just horrible for Kay & Larry
This is the problem with having trials years after the incident. It’s so hard to remember dates from years ago!
True but they had to get lori supposedly “fit to stand trial” first *eyeroll*
Idk how they could forget any of it. Seeing as all these "dark" "zombies" were running around.
I would refresh my memory with a calendar and my phone records before I testified in a murder trial.
This was her whole life the last 4-5 years. She remembers everything. What she will tell is another story
59:35 whoa whoa whoa did she just try to cover for Lori?
I don’t trust this woman…Melanie that is
I wonder why Chad's kids weren't dark....Is it because they are his kids ?
I believe because they were grown & wouldn’t cramp their style
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Agreed plus lori got money from Tylees dad (Joseph Ryan) social security and jj got it too from Charles. Lori continued collecting her kids benefits after she had them murdered
And that fact alone, in my eyes, is what tells us that it was Lori who was calling the shots, literally, instead of Chad. Sick.
We have waited so long for this!! I know many ppl have mixed views of Melanie G. But, Melanie holds the key to help convict this Monster of a Mother.. Thank you Melanie Gibb for doing the right thing!!
She’s saving her own ass only.
Exactly! People are b!tching and complaining about her but without her this could turn into another Casey Anthony as it's blamed on mommy dearest's brother.
@@beeawesome2869 how you figure? The bodies were found in Chads yard..
@@dualityreality369 you’re right. She’s only back tracking and trying to save her own ass. She’s just as guilty as all the others. So many people not charged, it’s insane
My opinion she’s working hard to save her own ass
So, let me get this right. She was married to Moroni (the guy at the top of all Mormon temples) in a previous life. Then, Moroni turns up in the temple, with Jesus, and seals her and Chad together for eternity. Surely, she was sealed to Moroni back in the day. Does that make her a polygamist? They really didn't think anything through, did they! Just made things up as they went along, and gathered themselves followers who were as wicked as they were.
Yes they believe in polygamy. Don’t think it will be touched on in this case.
@@dualityreality369 Polygamy is for men, only. Men can marry more than one women, but not women to multiple men. Not in the LDS church anymore though, just the break of groups.
ALL Mormons believe in polygamy. Those who don't practice it in earth life (because it is against the law) believe they will have it in the "Mormon celestial kingdom (the Mormon version of Heaven).
A Mormon man can be sealed in marriage to more than one wife, for polygamy in the Mormon celestial kingdom.
@@trubrit5036 their cult was also going to allow women to have priesthood and hold more power than traditional Mormonism. Just ask Julie Rowe who was trying to collect herself a harem of men.
Lori probably shot and killed Charles but her brother took the blame for her. My opinion.
I suspect she might have delivered the coup de grâce, the second shot while he was lying on his back.
She stole the phone out of Charles car. I never heard that before this. The story before was that Charles left his phone inside and had to go back inside to get it.
@@letsgetlit2829 Wrong thread? 🤗
Lori Vallow’s entire philosophy is: “Jesus loves me more, so any person who disagrees with me deserves to be terminated. I am allowed to lie, deceive, poison, dismember, cheat, incinerate and steal…for Jesus.”
In other words, “Doesn’t count for me!”
You just wouldn’t believe how many people religious preppers many of them Mormon there are out there. Preparing for the ‘end of times’. They listen to people like Julie Rowe who says she is a prophet and predicts earthquakes and disasters. They talk about refugees from California, not overseas, walking from Cali to join the 144,000 for the return of Jesus. It’s insane how many people follow these ridiculous so called holy leaders. It is time for churches Mormon and regular Christians spoke out against this it is not harmless when people get duped into parting with their savings and sometimes families to join these people.
They should have asked her did you help Lori hide Charles' belongs? She would have to answer Yes if she is under oath. Charles came back to pick up JJ and his vehicle was gone as were his clothes. Melanie Gibbs helped with that. This was the time he was killed and why he had a rental car that day.
Melanie has probably made a deal with the prosecutor for her testimony. That would mean that certain questions would not be asked and certain incidents are off limits.
Melanie was in pretty deep with this entire plot. I think she made that recording of her confronting Lori and Chad to cover up her own culpability.
Yes!! Yes MG was more involved the she’s admitting. MG must have made some kind of deal with LE
when two narcissists met ... they believed their own bullshit to justify their grubby affair..
She is talking to Lori the day before Charles died about life insurance than Melanie leaves and the next day Charles gets murdered ! Was present during JJ last night alive . Now She was with Lori around Kylee death . Wow no wonder this woman went into hiding . She is one guilty woman .
I'm surprised there's no emails or texts implicating her involvement in all this