How is Quake Champions doing in 2023?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today I'm going back playing Quake Champions that was released back in 2017! I wanted to see how Quake Champions is doing in 2023, if it's a fun game to play and if there's still an active player base. I've always had a respect for games such as Quake, Doom and Unreal Tournament, since many of these old style arena shooters has given inspiration for newer generations of shooters!
How is Quake Champions doing in 2023?
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Playing Quake Champions that was released in 2017. This free to play arena shooter is fast paced action a la "old school"! Let's see how it feels to play the game in 2023, and if there's still people playing Quake Champions!
Quake Champions is a first-person arena shooter developed by id Software and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main entry in the Quake series, following 2005's Quake 4. The game was first released in early access on August 22, 2017; since August 10, 2018, the game has been free-to-play. The game's full version was released on August 18, 2022.
Quake Champions was announced at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2016. The game features a large quantity of playable characters, with each having access to one or more 'passive abilities', and one 'active ability' that must be triggered by a key-press. The game was promised to be a "fast paced arena based shooter". It will not be released on consoles due to hardware limitations.
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This genre definitely deserves way more players
I agree. Not sure exactly what is needed to make that happen. Guess a new really good arena shooter with good marketing and bigger RUclipsr and streamers playing it, might be a necessary thing to achieve in order to create a hype around the game/genre.
@@40splishsplash tbh I think the game is smaller than we want because the genre is out of style. I honestly love arena shooters over the repetitive and frustrating tactical shooters and battle royales that are so popular, but, those are what most people like for some reason, and arena shooters i think have gotten old for people from their time. I lvoe quake champs but I just don't think most people want to play something like it.
Imo problem is simillar to what i ecountered starting out in tf2 well kinda high skill flooring and nearly unreachable skill cap, not sure tho havent played quake champions much but rn many players are young kids that for some reason preffer to play super casual games with low skill floor and celling, i mean ok net everyone want to spend sereval hours just trying to get used to the game but cmon if game is too casual its boring u just open game shoot people andball u need is no tatic just reaction time and good mouse thats boring no movment tatics etc. . But ye i think this game is small cuz most people rn just play more easy games over ones with complex movement etc
Need. A lot, in SEA servers.
COD kiddies complain about "sweats" in their game. They wouldnt survive one second in these games
Quake III, and QC are the pinnacle of the FPS experience in my opinion.
If you’re not good, you will lose. No perks or gadgets will save you. Truly skill based games.
Thanks for saying! Yes, there's no "perk tree" around here :)
Quake 2 remaster has been fun on MP. It is peer2peer but it's not bad with like 5v5 CTF and whatnot. I think if you're just getting into Arena shooters I'd start there, lots of fresh blood and all the modes.
Thanks for your comment! Nice to hear that you're enjoying the Quake 2 remaster...I might look into it myself :)
quake is the only game that the professional scene is bigger than the casual one lmao - quake con is always a blast but this game has on average 300 players on steam
Ok, thanks for saying (and the info)!
Not Gen Z friendly. And that's what I love about it. 😉
You're most likely right about that :)
We love quake 😊
Sounds awesome! :)
Actually is not that hard to get into game. Not at high level but still you get some decent scores. Bethesda added 2 one click kill champions, Scalebearer and Death Knight for players who are brainless or just new to the game. This way you can get into game and still get some kills despite being new
Thanks for your comment! I think it's nice, especially for newcomers, to hear this!
Doom, Quake and Serious Sam :D :D :D
Ahh, Serious Sam...Cool game!
Even though it's unlikely to happen. Quake deserves to have that massive population. It's frustrating to me because this game feels like that one shooter game that everyone is missing as an fps gamer. Meanwhile, we have one developer working his butt off to keep the community on their toes for more. Props to Syncerror
Thanks for your comment! Yes, besides the fact that this video is a part of a series that I've been doing for some years on my channel, I also wanted to highlight Quake Champions for others to find out. I haven't (yet) spent the time necessary to really become good at the game, but I do recognise it to be a good game, and also a bit of an echo from the past when it comes to the history of fps gaming :)
It's sad to say but unfortunately this game and others like it will never get "big". There just isn't a big audience or games that are very hard to get into because the skill discrepancy is so huge between new players and old players. In Quake and UT you can easily go 50-0 against new players, which makes most new players give up before they get any good at the game. Games like Team Fortress 2 popularized games where even new players can score points and get some kills without much skill, so they're more likely to keep playing the game for a long time. That's why something like TF2 is more popular today than when it was released, while every Quake, Unreal and Tribes game starts off somewhat big and quickly dies down. Seeing as most games of any type die off within 1-2 years, it's unlikely that this 90's type of game will stay active online for long, but I'm glad they're still available for those who like them, and that there are lots of single player "boomer shooters" to enjoy.
@@iSOBigD Thanks for your comment! A lot of the stuff you're mentioning, makes sense to me. Some of the things I mention as well in the video.
if we didnt have to run 2 launcher (steam and bethesda) at the same time and have them hog up overlay. ppl would more happy to try
@@BastyTHz That is indeed a valid point as well. I've seen other games suffer from the same thing (two launchers).
I started playing this game like in March and it was really hard/steep. Most players already know what they're doing so I always ended up being last. However, I sticked to it and 3 weeks later I started getting 1st places here and there. Within 2 months I was a decent player. However, the skill ceiling of this game is very high and there is always someone better than you. In my case there's a lot of people out there that destroy me but now I put up a fight and challenge all the casuals.
Thanks for sharing your Quake Champions experiences! There is indeed a high skill gap, as I also mention in the video. However, you also describe how it can become quite rewarding when you actually start to become better. That's also why I guess a game like this isn't for everyone, since you got to have quite some patience, and continue to play and practice in order to "climb the ladder" :)
For me the biggest issue with Quake Champions is that you have to return to the lobby after each match. Many times instead of playing another match, I just closed the game because it was boring to wait so much time. In Quake Live/3 you join the server and you can play still for many hours without breaks (the only break is for voting on new map).
@@michabarnas612 Yes...There's so many games nowadays that returns to lobby after a match is finished. It shouldn't be like that, you should stay in the same lobby and if you want to leave you just do that, instead of having to wait a long time again to be matched up against new players :)
200 players total :)))
Did they add any features like playing vs bots and solo challenges and whatnot? I'd like to try the game again I think they need to add more solo / newbie stuff. Last I played there was just a basic tutorial and nothing to do besides going into an Arena with insanely good opponents.
I always say, Quake is probably the most fun game you can play 1v1 if you are both close in skill level. get 2 brand new people and put them in a duel and they will be hooked.
Good saying, and I believe you might be right!
Yes I agree for FPS genre but overall for me, it's age of empires 2:DE they are both very good for 1v1
Hardest game to master for sure in fps at the moment. The QC dynamics makes the game sooo hard!
Thanks for your comment! Yes, it definitely takes some time to at least improve movement wise in a game such as Quake Champions, lol.
Honestly this is the reason for all the salty whining complaints. QC is an excellent game, as good a remaster for Quake MP as Doom 2016 was for Doom SP, it just happens to be REALLY HARD!
@@Wobbothe3rd wish the engine was as well optimized as Doom Eternal though.
Can you play it without Steam?
And Team Fortress 2
I miss playing unreal tournament that was the best arena shooters but they got rid of it. I am sick of Call of Duty all micro transactions.
Thanks for your comment! I know exactly what you mean when you're mentioning Call of Duty. Especially the newer Cod games.
Playing it since it came out. It is the best modern multiplayer arena FPS I think. Unfortunately the publisher cut its budget severely so it does not get much significant updates for a long time.
Thanks for saying and the info. Sad to hear that the budget has been cut, that explains why I couldn't see any recent major updates when searching for it.
I’ve recently picked it up again after quite a long break and I’ll say that I’ve been enjoying it though I miss the classic Q3 Arena style gameplay where the characters where just skins that had no real tangible difference and you all started with a machine gun (and not the basic one you get in this game and actually have to get an upgrade mid game just to do semi decent damage which is pointless when you can just grab a rocket launcher and do way more damage)
Playing it makes me wish for a Q3 Arena remake/remaster with just added character skins and weapon cosmetics and bringing back the classic maps along with new ones based off the newer id software games (like a Wolfenstine inspired one or another taking place in Hell or a Hell invaded earth from Doom Eternal)
That would be pretty cool and I’d like that and probably spend way more on skins n stuff than I do in Quake Champions
Idk sometimes simplicity is better with arena shooters and you don’t have to go reinventing the wheel
Thanks for a well thought out comment! Personally I also enjoy games, especially in this genre, that are as "clean" as possible. It tends to work the best after all. That's also why I enjoyed playing the early Halo games; no abilities, everyone could carry the same guns and had the same possibility to pick up power weapons on the map (rockets, sniper etc). So by saying that, it would be cool to get a Q3 Arena remake or remaster :)
that is what i tought went wrong with q4 and qc. q4 had crouch sliding and some odd weapon mechanics, q3 was pretty stable. weapons feel so good in q3, qc does not even come close.
@@kevinmischker3592 Thanks for your comment, adding some feedback!
Important to note that the original Quake 3 was going to have classes, including exactly the "light" and "heavy" character class mechanics QC implements. I don't necessarily agree that Quake 3 is any more "Clean". Quake 3 is more simple and elegant, but I think QC is actually very well balanced. Quake 4's slide mechanics were AWESOME, and in fact the multiplayer for Quake 4 was criminally underrated; indeed the game was big in the competitive scene. The fact that QC integrates different movement physics for different characters is an INREDIBLE addition to a FPS competitive game. I play Quake Live all the time, Q3 is my favorite game ever, but QC is fantastic.
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everyone says we need more population.. sorry but i dont need whining fortnite players.. quake players aim are legendary.. i think thats why its less populated.. players can reach higher levels way easier in other games
It's most likely one of the reasons; there are other games around that are easier to play.
I've been playing quake 3 arena most of my life, unreal titles, half-life deathmatch. This game is great. I can skate as slash. They made a childhood dream come true. This game is brutal by design, and that seperates the noobs from the gamers.
Good comment! And skating as Slash is...super cool :)
I'm still playing this and recognized a lot of players you're playing against in this vid. This game is at it's best when you can maneuver the map quickly with the champs that have special movement mechanics.
Ok, nice to hear that (recognizing players)! That happens usually when there's a smaller community around a game, which can be nice. And as you say; the best moments in a game such as Quake Champions is when you become better regarding the movement mechanics. Something I didn't have time to do that much when making this video, but I started to do better after a few hours, remembering a bit how it is to play a fast paced arena shooter :)
QC is straight up the best modern shooter if you put the effort into learning the fundamentals
Good comment! Yes, it takes time to master a game such as Quake Champions. Something I wish I had more of, lol (time)
I still prefer UT. Funnier weapons, slower movements, more casual friendly.
@@jacksheldon8566 UT stands on its own aesthetically. The music and setting and weapons are unique enough to separate itself from quake... But strafe, and rocket, jumping are goated.
im at the beginning of the video but let me say first i play this game daily and its till super fun so jump in if you havent played it. Its very hard to learn but lots of guides out there ! Challenge your self to a true test of your fps skills
Good sayings! Yes, I believe that you should try out a game such as Quake Champions, if you're a fps gamer and if you haven't played this style of a shooter (arena shooter).
Game needs a complete remake from the scratch
...Would most likely make wonders for the game and hopefully bring new people into the game as well (hopefully).
No modding, no custom maps. No server browser. No drop in out of matches. Limited to 8 players max. No dedicated servers. Need i say more
Thanks for your comment! You're definitely pointing out things that would have been great to have in QC. Spontaneously, I miss a server browser the most out of the things you're mentioning.
@@40splishsplash you cant grow a player base if the player base is small. Because it's so hard to find a game, and if there is a game you must wait for it to finish before you can join.
Which came first. Chicken or egg?
Back in the day we used to play "Battle Royale" in Quake of Unreal Tournament. We called it "Free For All" or "Last Man Standing". Damn Kidz just rebranded our mod as "BR" for "Baby Rage".
Awesome! That's where it all started :)
My biggest problem is optimization.
Every few months I get this urge to play Quake Champions and I install it and have a blast for about 20 hours and then the excitement starts to wear off and I start to notice the lag/stutters that ruin atleast a few firefights every match and then I sadly uninstall it
Thanks for your comment! There's most likely room for improvement when it comes to optimization, especially since it is a fast paced game, it needs to be "on the spot".
I still find it strange that post acquisition Quake Champions wasn't heavily pushed and brought to Xbox. They could even throw in Gears 5 and Halo characters to nostalgia bait players. Turn it into Xbox's Smash.
Thanks for your comment, and I believe that could have been a good idea, although I know that some players don't believe that a Quake game plays well using a controller.
BRING THIS GAME TO ALL CONSOLES! THIS WILL ENSURE NEW PLAYERS!!!
That will most likely help the player count, although as I said in the video, the game is heavily designed for PC when it comes to movement etc. But maybe it'll work now in 2023-2024.
I think it would work very well, all you do is hop around and shoot guns.
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Thanks for your very nice comment! Especially the part where you are welcoming Spanish speaking QC players :)
Disculpa la ignorancia pero como hago para unirme? Saludos!
Living in Australia, I doubt it would be easy to find low-ping servers...
That could indeed be a "problem". Not sure how great the servers actually are.
Learn the various movement types and you'll be a monster. QC is the only multiplayer shooter I play, and there's plenty of players in the EU, and plenty of challenge.
Thanks for saying! Yes, if I continue to play QC, I'll definitely start working on my moves/movement more. Always a problem though when being a variety content creator, hard to find time to stay long in only one game :)
I've been playing since around 2018. It's my favorite game/my daily game. I'm learning all the time, and it's extremely satisfying to see my average kdr and leaders board position rise over time. It's fast and engaging. Almost all other shooters feel agonizingly slow in comparison. I also like the smaller community, because you can actually recognize players who are regulars, and I've played with a number of the Pro League players and casters, which is neat!
Thanks for some good feedback when it comes to your Quake Champions experiences! Yeah, this game is indeed a huge difference from most modern shooters today. It's an "echo" from the past, where gun skill and movement (in combination), was the priority above all :)
I played this game a long time ago and i enjoyed it, but playing in south amercia makes it really hard to find matches, and it doesn't help that i have a low end pc, and i had to play the game on the lowest settings.
Thanks for saying! Yeah, I can imagine that...The combo of having a low end PC and a hard time to find matches, takes the fun out of it after some time, unfortunately.
An example of some of the worst execution by a studio.
Closed beta was when this game really shined. That being said, they had major issues even at that time.
* New duel format wasn't liked by pros.
* You could just spam the lightning gun and shake your mouse to get easy hits. Clawz abused the hell out of this.
* Rocket launcher client side prediction would have direct rockets explode but the server would not register them.
* Lack of server side entity smoothing for clients with bad connections
* No dedicated servers (sucked for pro LAN tournaments)
* No skill based match making on launch resulting in noobs getting destroyed by mid-skill players, not a good way to cultivate a playerbase.
Now: netcode still sucks ass, no one to play with, I feel for the pros who's mental health is being destroyed playing this game.
Thanks for contributing when it comes to the QC discussion. I remember the beta, I'm pretty sure I played it some during that first phase :)
*Buyable cheating programs by russians on the net easyAF
*free format is a massive fuck -helps cheaters, and the smurfs too
*shit hybrid system, slow AF
*mods that really good at team playing still team deatchmatch...
*low champion count
*shit skill based matchmaking system Even before this 200player what playing the game online, the game had really really bad matchmaking.
The game looks like has only one developer that working on it, its a shame. They alredy killed it and shoved under 10feet.
They based the game around the duels, and got a ranked shitfest. But that was just a really bad idea. Arena shooters was more more fun back there, atleast if some player with 2brain cell checking unreal tournament, where the game has around 5mods, in the base game all fun to play+ plus mutators what not causing 'press f' to win. The 2004 game what i still playing even more has.
Its a shame, that this Quake game bornt from this money management.
Thats tells something why they keep pushing the new Dooms. But that franchise MP is still gives massive shitfest like this one, only single players is where shine.
I think they are just incompetent.
Unpopular opinion: qc is too colourful, cartoony, and the characters are cringe. Crouch sliding is fantastic but i dont want to have to play as some goth girl/neckbeard's wet dream.
Bring back the grit as seen in the earlier quake games. Default guns look like super soakers that a child would play with.
That is some criticism for sure, but that's perfectly fine. I guess Quake Live is more your thing?
boomer opinion. so its discarded
Yeah I agree the guns and characters are too colorful. Rusty bullets and armor, burning and bloody flesh is what I would guess an arena shooter should be like. I just like the vibes of the older games
I've always imagined how Doom Eternal would be. If it had been giving a straight-up Deathmatch.
Maybe a bit like this?
@@40splishsplash definitely 😁
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I kinda hate the fact that the game community rather play the trendy games instead of the games like quake that stick with the roots.
Yes, it is unfortunately the case, especially since newer genres (as mentioned in the video), has given players a chance to get quick rewards and gameplay experiences.
this is not quake, i will stick to Q2/Q3/Live
Thanks for your comment :)
It felt like i was watching quake in slow motion. You need to learn how to strafe jump or crouch slide when you are playing Slash. When you learn that, the game becomes much faster and much more fun. The feeling is like you are dancing and shooting at the same time or figure skating and shooting. You won't regret it.
here is a video for comparison. Just see how much faster and satisfying it is when you learn the movement. ruclips.net/video/kyEUDxx15pU/видео.html
Thanks for saying! Yes, I'm aware of the lack of movement skill etc. But I've already explained why in the video and some other comments; I simply don't have the time at the moment to "dig deeper", since I'm covering games to the left and the right(!) on my channel. But if I come back and play more QC, then I'll definitely give it some time (practice).
Started with Q3A when it first released - spent *_OVER_* 10,000 hours in it - mostly playing mods of course - like 3-Wave, RA3, and Freeze Tag. Quake Champions *_ROCKS!!!_* and the only changes I would make would be to decentralize the server - let us run our own like before! And open up the SDK so we can mod to our heart's content! The basic framework is pretty awesome though - just the servers and the mod scene is severely lacking.
Thanks for your feedback! Over 10k hours...amazing! Some good thoughts and suggestions as well; cheers!
@@40splishsplash Yeah, _one of the things_ that made Q3A so awesome was the private servers. Everyone knew each other. So it was a bit of a Breakfast Club from 6pm to about 11pm every night - and to 3am on weekends. In total about 100 to 150 people with 20 or so in game at any given time. And with 5 to 8 servers online (2 or 3 popular ones) with a ping of under 60, everyone was happy. With Quake Champions you can play for 2 years straight and only see the same person a few times. Very impersonal. :( No after-game chatting while waiting the 5 min or so for the next round to start, etc.
I love this game. I have been playing it since the relase. The learning curve is really steep, but it is so fun to play! QC is awesome!
Nice to hear that :)
Going to give it a go. Are these maps classic maps that been around decades?
@@__boo there are very few old classic maps like dm6 and ztn, mostly maps are all brand new.
Give it a try, it's an awesome game and it needs fresh blood. Good luck in the arena!
The next id software game will be a Quake reboot, which will also include a multiplayer (without Champions). This will revitalize this type of game for the masses
Nice to hear that! Looking forward to it :)
Doom Eternal already helped spark the interest for arena FPSs a little bit. It's a shame the online they came up with isn't the best. It's not glitchy or anything, I just feel like It's a bit boring. But let's see what comes next!
Well well well... another doom has been announced last week. Quake remains mistreated by Bethesda. Maybe they'll do something for its 30th anniversary in 2 years, but I'm not holding my breath.
@@Sepums to be honest, its a new doom game, but really its quake. Medieval scifi stuff. The slayer has a bolt or nail launcher, like thats all quake.
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I played the game much. it is still fun. the abilitys are strage at first. (i played much quake 3 arena) but you just have your 2-3 charakters that you play a lot. only pros know how to play every charakter. there are game mode without abilitys, so why not?
Cool! Yeah, you do get used to the abilities if you spend some time playing. Becoming good using the though, that's another story, lol.
Yoo that's me 00:04 😂
Oh, it was..? Sorry, must have been my "beginners" luck, lol. Thanks for your comment, man!
because this generation prefers something easy that's why games like fortnite, apex legends and call of duty exists.
and most people prefer consoles because it's the cheaper and easier alternative.
Yes, that is most likely two of the reasons.
yes it's not a game for casual gamers and here you've the results - 300 average active players in their 40's
I think you're on to something here; a majority of players in QC are most likely older compared to people some other more casual FPS titles.
You probably dont hear this often but your english is very good. keep up the good work
Thanks for saying, it's appreciated 👍
I've had Quake in my life for around 20+ years, Q1 and Q3 and then heavy amount of Q3 Excessive Plus. I cant get into other games, they all feel as sluggish as the first time I tried Goldeneye64 at a friends house, not sure whats up with other games slow running speeds and lack of dynamic movement but the physics are often just too static. I'm still not good at Quake, but its the only game for me and I love it.
Thanks for your comment! Nice to hear that you're such a committed Quake gamer, I can understand that it might be hard to enjoy other games in the fps genre if you're used to this fast paced movement patterns.
I started out with Quake 3 arena in 2000, and kept up with all the releases till Quake champions. I am still average to bad compared to the high skilled players, but i still love it and play fairly regularly.
I would say Champions specifically is still fast, but a bit dumbed down compared to the just prior release, Quake Live, which in my opinion was the peak of gameplay quality for this game.
Thanks for saying! Quake Live is also for me, a bit better overall. Being quite "true" to the old concept and style of a Quake game :)
Its very fun however= No dedicated servers no real community. I sometimes sit 2-3 mins waiting for a match. How did we regressed in this genre so badly?
Some regions wait 20+ mins
That's a good question. Most likely a combination of many things. Some of them I believe, are mentioned in this video. For example more popular modern fps genres like battle royale, attraction shooters, tactical fps etc.
Oh, that's a very long time..!
I play this game almost every single day. It's the game that keeps me from playing the rest of my 250 or so games, including titles like Starfield and Atomic Heart. I've had Fallout 4 for years and haven't gotten to it because of this game.
Thanks for saying! You've definitely gotten "addicted" to QC, which is not a bad thing at all :)
this is still a great game:) best fps game for me, coming from a cod background i never played any of the older quake or doom games, but after ~3k hours of sweaty duels (the game was designed around 1v1 ranked) i was able to get diamond rank. this game isn't for everyone, but if you're a hardcore gamer who's into shooters you'll definitely see the appeal
Thanks for your comment, it's nice to also hear from someone that has a bit of a similar fps background like me. Sure, I did play some arena shooters back in the days (mostly Unreal Tournament), but getting back into a game such as Quake Champions "threw" me off a bit which was kind of expected, before being able to do a bit better. Good job when it comes to sticking to the game and also improve as a player!
Game is still great fun. Look into strafe jumping and advanced movement. This is what makes quake stand out, and what makes it more fun than any other game.
Nice to hear that you're still enjoying Quake Champions! And thanks for the tip when it comes to movement. Something I am well aware of (think I mention that in the video). Sadly I haven't had enough time, at least not for this video, to actually practice. But if I play more QC..absolutely :)
Port it to console all you want, but dont you dare add autoaim for controller players, if anyone insists on using a controller too bad, No built in autoaim cheating. I cannot stress this enough.
I agree upon that.
Don't worry, even if it's on console nobody will play it
It took like 6 years to come out, they tried to make it overwatch, but yes legacy skill still applies, which makes it harder for newcomers anyway. Basically, they should have just made it true to its original fanbase's wishes and kept it a non overwatch wannabe. Then it probably would have done better anyway. Plus it seems to have a lack of newer maps despite being played for so many years.
Thanks for your comment! Yes, it's nice to try new things, even in a franchise that has been around for quite some time such as Quake. However, the ability thing a la hero shooter, didn't become as popular as they might have thought it would be. I also agree when it comes to lack of new maps. New content is always needed in order to "feed" the community so they want to come back for more :)
We still there since the begining !
Cool, nice to hear that :)
The game is good, but what made quake famous is community and community content. This is what we need in quake champion, the possibility to have community maps, community gamemodes (defragr etc) and self-hosted server like in the old days.
Sounds like a good and valid point. Most games that has an involvement when it comes to the community (TF2 as an example), are often doing well over a long period of time.
It's so sad how this side of gaming has died since 2010. Even valve, once pioneers of this philosophy have completely abandoned or overlooked the necessity to boast the creativity and freedom within their own games' communities. I think it's the main driving factor for why games are so shit these days. The people who play them don't actually have a voice anymore. The fact that somebody even proposed releasing CS2 without community servers, and wasn't dragged out and shot is mind boggling to me.
I absolutely love Quake Champions. Been playing Quake since Quake 2. Wish it had more support
Cool! Someone wrote in the comments that it's only one guy(!) supporting this game now. Can that really be true?
Me too - Quake 2 Rocket Arena - so many hours of fun. Still play QL CA regularly. Have never even tried QC. The different abilities turned a lot of veterans from the game, I think. Understand why they wanted to appeal to younger (more) players, but it's a different game. Also, as I understand it, a lot of technical problems with the game, that weren't fixed at launch, and still isn't.
Maybe the days of really hardcore fast paced FPS games are just over. I hope not.
Playing this game feels like I was injected with whatever they give to horses to make them run fast
Ha,ha..I know what you mean!!
Lol
@@NicSchlichtmann :D
like from the beta till this day, netcode is shit. If you have good internet your LG accureacy wont exceed 35% (you will seen hitting enemies on your screen but server will correct their position and your hits wont count), you wont avoid rockets splash damage and you will get hit by rails behind wall. Extrapolation or Interpolation is always desync... the spread if to high for whatever reason. Dont play it, dont intall it... better go play quake live
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, a good netcode is always in fps games, especially a fast paced arena shooter. I've just tried out Quake Live a bit, so I can't really compare the two that much.
Reason i am not playing this game i would just lag all the time and my mouse will feel laggey and floaty like it does when i play unreal tournament 3 black edition. The game run flawlessly back when i had my w vista 64 running on a crap hardware compered to what i have now playing unreal even on my 3080 it feels laggy it runes my gameplay experience and frustration being hampered to aim with laggy mouse movement why i didn't play this game
Thanks for your feedback! Interesting experience though, considering that you have better gear now compared to before.
Quake is awesome but always felt champions engine was so clunky and slow
Ok! Is it really that big of a difference compared to the older Quake games? (Just curious)
@40splishsplash I felt the quake 2 was pretty clunky I guess. However quake 3 was so optimized it would run on anything, and felt alot more stable and faster. I could run quake 3 and get maxed out fps easily on a modern PC. But champions still struggles a bit and I feel the graphics aren't that much of a step up. I feel asif they haven't optimized it very well which is a shame. Even on a modern PC with gaming hardware I get performance issues
Realllly hoping it'll come to Xbox.
I can understand that, but I doubt it will.
Problem is same as with programming, it's easier to start learning some web site graphics, front end or like some easy python modules, then make graphics in c/java and get deeper into programming and become those, you thought were magicians.
I can understand what you mean.
I find it cool to play from time to time. I used to play quake since quake2 so I am an old player but casual nonetheless. :)
Thanks for saying :)
FPS games in general are hard to balance matchmaking perspective. I don't think any developer managed to create a proper matchmaking algorithm.
And QC suffers even more of this. I tried it out a few years ago, and when you constantly get wafflestomped, its not fun to be the free frag by people who are leagues above you, but due to low playerbase it is what it is.
I think this is why tactical shooters are more favored: even if you're lower skilled, you can still contribute somewhat to the match, and can turn the tide even by baiting the enemy, who would rather shoot players when the objective wins the game, not the kda...
I get it that you can improve if you challenge yourself, but if you're a crippled rabbit on a highway, you wont become the truck if you get flattened in every seconds...
And overall arena shooters just don't have objectives. I mean metaobjective - outside a match. So they are like "filler" games between your main games.
Thanks for your comment! I understand what you mean, and you have some valid points. A game such as QC could have a better way to introduce new players. Some fps games I've played before had a playlist that you could play up to a certain rank, which was quite good, since it was then made for newbies in the game. I also like that you're talking about metaobjectives, giving players even more incentive to carry on their grind in the game. The downside here, as you point out as well, is that QC has been out for quite some time and has now a small playerbase, so most of the guys that are still around playing, are most of the time pretty good at the game.
Quake Champions feels a lot slower than Quake 3, and as a result I can't get into it. Even though I SUCKED at Quake 3, it was a lot of fun to zip around the map at breakneck speed and try to hit my shots.
Cool! Thanks for sharing your Quake memories :)
They really should port this to Console (if it can run on my 200$ laptop, it can run on a PS4.) With Call of Duty falling off there is not really any arcade shooters in the market right now, so Quake has the perfect chance right now to become mainstream again.
Good point! As mentioned in the video, I understand why the devs didn't do it earlier (port it), since it is foremost a PC game. But, as you say, the new gen consoles are much better, and I do believe it would be good for the longevity of the game if more players could "mix" via crossplay.
Btw theres still updates made regualrly. Dev team is small so its not a huge quantity of content but, its enough to keep me entertained
small = one dude
Thanks for saying :)
Oh, only one dude..?
@@40splishsplash yep :|
@@riba2233 no, its only one person actively monitoring the code, but lots of people worked on the levels and the recent patches.
i don't mind hability cause the casual modes like team deathmatch and stuff can be more fun with it, however for DUELS for me is EITHER habilitys off, or both players have the same habilitys, i don't like having a different hability than my oponent at all.
Thanks for your feedback and opinion, appreciated :)
Quake is very skilled game. Love it but forgot about it for a few years. Shame one me.
Yes, it is a skill game...Sometimes though it can be good to be away from a game, and then come back to it :)
Very bad game and all the devs have left besides SyncError!
The game is barely alive and only played by the competitive players!
There’s zero point bringing it ps5/series-x
Quake3/QL is still the king!!
Thanks for your comment! It's good to hear about both the good stuff in the game (for some people), but also the negatives.
I love this game and never understood why its not popular. As far as the strife jumping is not that hard as people think. This game forces u to keep moving and fighting which is a ton of fun, compared to valorant/csgo where u are sitting around and waiting or slowly creeping. And the dueling in this game is the ultimate pvp fps experience. Its the only true 1v1 fps game imo. People just gave up too soon on this game cuz it really is amazing and just so much fun to just get in and start fragging
Nice to hear that you're really into QC and the genre overall. I think that the "lack of popularity" when it comes to a game such as QC depends on many things. I talk in the video about modern gaming, and the fact that genres like battle royale and extraction shooters became big and popular some years ago. That in combination with a newer generation of gamers, that sometimes just want quick and fast rewards when playing a fps game, make them shy away from a genre (arena shooters), where you do need to spend some time playing before actually getting good at it, or at least decent :)
Quake Champions is dead. Played it in 2022, got bored, then started to play in 2023 again and the wait before the server will gather enough party to play became unbearable. Up to 5 minutes of wait between matches.
Yes, it's struggling when it comes to player base, I saw that as well.
If you master QIII arena any other fps is a piece of cake, all others FPS seems in slow motion.
That I can understand :)
I installed the game in 2018 but didn't had a GPU back then, only now in 2023 i got my new GPU but i find the game is empty, still i'll be playing it.
Nice to hear that you've got a new GPU! Yes, the player count is not what it used to be when it comes to QC, but there's still some dedicated players to be found :)
i want a Quake 3 Arena remaster for consoles
Thanks for saying! Yes, that would be nice :)
I dunno, Quake Live already exists. I would prefer a console crossplay CLIENT update for Quake 3 or Quake Live, or both. A remaster the way Q1 and Q2 have been done would be good, but it would divide the multiplayer community even more because so far the multiplayers of the remasters have not been compatible.
i love this game but i ended up quitting because of the poor performance, the uncontrollable matchmaking, the fact that i had to "log in" everytime etc....Just really wasn't as smooth as an experience as i would of liked it to be.....Would love to see it recover itself somehow if it can tho.
There's definitely room for improvements, that is true. Not sure if they'll spend the time and money to fix or change so much more when it comes to QC.
We need a new Quake.
The concept with the champions just suck and drove many old players of. Quake Live is by far superior.
Would be interesting to see what would come out of a new Quake game...And how it would be received alongside with the modern shooters out there.
Also, sadly, epic games closed Unreal Tournament, liked to play UT4 on my pc and UT1 at school
Yeah, I know...I didn't have a chance to play so much UT4, but I come from a background of enjoying the good old UT3 :)
I played QC quite a lot for a few years, a couple of years ago. I thought I was halfway decent with a few characters, but didn't feel fully in control. Not sure why I stopped, maybe there was another game or something else competing for time, or a QC game update I didn't really fancy, but I simply stopped playing it and haven't got back to it since then. But I remember it as being quite fun and I'm still considering giving it another try again some time.
Thanks for sharing your QC memories! Maybe you'll get back on it again one day :)
Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament 1999 both in Unreal Engine 5 would be insane.
Oh yeah, that would be pretty amazing :)
they should let go off strife jumping , it keep the game from having a larger base .. nobody got time to spend 100h to learn how to strife jump today.
Thanks for saying! That could help, although I don't believe it would be a very popular decision in the core community. There could also be variants of game modes where strafe jump is disabled?
it had been 25 year since i play quake mp in school computer room. still playing till today but finger tendon cant hold much tension anymore, keyboard isnt made to be healthy for a long term. controller is safer
Thanks for sharing those Quake gaming memories! Sorry to hear about the finger tendon issue...I have a friend that has a nerve damage since a few years back in his right hand, so he plays everything nowadays with a controller. On the other hand, he mostly plays rpg games.
I have no interest in QC purely because of the character abilities. No thanks I will just play older quake games.
...and that works as well. The older games will always be good and OG.
Fuck it, im going to give it another try. I didnt like it too much when the beta launched but after playing a lot of Quake 2 remaster deathmatch, i got interested again.
Cool! It's usually good to come back for "another round" or try :)
Why or how would you play QC on console, it just wont work?
There's simply no console version out there. The developers stated (at least back in 2017), that the software limitations when it comes to consoles, is (or was) a reason why they decided not go further with a console version of Quake Champions. Which also means that there's no controller support on the PC version.
Quake feels like you can play with your friends and homies and just shoot around or if you hang out in friends house and do a lan party also quake would play well in a discord party
That can definitely be a cool and nice thing to do!
good video
to hell with character abilities in fps games, even arena shooters
feels almost like cheating
i almost downloaded the game, but then i heared about abilities and no, ty
Thanks for your feedback! Yeah, the abilities aren't for everyone :)
@@40splishsplash to be fair, I need to check them out in quake, but:
I don't like them in The Finals, Apex, COD (mp & br both). Oh, and CS: GO and CS2 are chess games with fps mechanics, not FPS games at this point 😂
I tried them all with an open mind, but they're not for me.
This song describes the kind of gamer I grew up as, with almost 100% accuracy:
Richter & Shox - Counter Strike Flavor
And there seem to be many people like that.
For example, I never liked snipers in fps games. Campers, quick scopers, all the kinds, LAME & Flamer. Like, use an AK or smth like A MAN 😂
Now, the reason is a bit of a stretch for the sake of the joke, and I am not locked in old school mentality.
I want good movement, guns, skill, good maps and no nannies :)
@@Flank.Sinatra. Ok! I do think though that the abilities in Quake Champions are pretty "mild" in comparison with some other games, for example Apex Legends. The focus is still on gun skill, so QC still might be of interest for you. I'll check out that song by the way :)
@@40splishsplash there is a version with lyrics, a bit is english, but mostly german, sozz :)
btw, do you like unreal tournament?
@@Flank.Sinatra. Ok! Yes, I really liked Unreal Tournament 3 back in the days :)
i just bought a pc. i really loved doom 2016 multiplayer but its dead. so i hope this does it for me
Cool! Hope you'll have some fun playing Quake Champions :)
i don't really like the abilities because imagine
i want to play as slayer, but i don't like his ability so i have to play as another character that i don't like as much
Yeah, that can unfortunately happen...The abilities is indeed a bit of a controversial thing in the game. Some like them and some don't :)
The game is great but the hero system ruins it. Also there is no server browser. The game startup is slow, the stupid ''rewards'' can go away.
Thanks for saying! Yes, I do miss a server browser as well...
QUAKE CHAMPIONS MENTIONED WTF IS A RELOAD RAAAH 🔫🔫🔫
But in all honesty this game is gas. I wish my pc could run it
Lol
Yeah, performance is always a thing. I have limitations as well when it comes to certain games (PC performance).
Actually I played it for a while but just couldn't dedicate all the time required to be decent so I stopped playing it
Thanks for saying, Adnan! I can understand that. It's been about the same for me; it's one of those games you gotta invest quite some time into to "get somewhere" :)
How come every time people show gameplay in these types of videos the player never strafe jumps?
Because the guys who are at least decent at playing these games don't make videos. These are modern gamers, all they know is COD and Fortnite.
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I haven't played the game that much, even though I did play some arena shooters back in the days (Unreal Tournament). Something I also say and explain in the video :) Cheers!
You're right to a certain degree, when it comes to modern gamers and that kind of movement in games such as Cod and Fortnite etc. However, I've been playing fps games for twenty plus years, which means that I've come across these kind of shooter before. But it was many years ago since I played a classic style arena shooter (such as Unreal Tournament or/and Quake) , so I haven't had the time to practice movement at all, since I most of the time have a limited amount of time when it comes to recording my videos. But if I'll continue to play some Quake (would like to check out the remastered Quake II game), then I'll most likely start training some again :) Cheers!
One of my absolute favorite games. And it's the brutal hardness that I love, it's totally unforgiving.
I play QC, COD-MW2 and DayZ. They are totally different but fun in there own way.
QC and DayZ (DM and PVP) are the hardest to master, COD is easy to learn when it comes to point and shoot.
QC is insanely fun to play with friends. Well, to think of it...those others are also fun to play with friends.
Thanks for a great comment, nice to hear about your background as a fps gamer :)
If you haven't played too much , you are pretty good considering :)
Thanks for the kind words :)
Quake 3 Arena 4 Life!
Thanks for saying :)
“Hardware limitations” they put doom on the Switch, someone’s shitting out their mouth…
They sure did!
it seems like most people who play the game are off when I launch it so my wait times is litteraly like 30 minutes
Ok, sorry to hear that, but to be fair; I've experienced the same as well. I need to find out when most players are online in my region (EU).
It's still pretty fun if you're not in a lobby with a bunch of sweatlords.
A col game indeed, what you describe is usually what happens when it's a game or a style of a game that some guys have been playing for quite some time :)
i grew up on quake, from '96 , qtest into then quake mainly playing ClanArena , a bit of q2 and then a ton of Q3a, the CA mode, a mode that doesn't really seem to work in QC (most likely due to some of the maps/layout and various heroes/health pools)
the whole bunny hopping/movement is such a big part of the game along with the sheer speed of it, something that has really defined it along with the incredible skill involved in duels especially at the high levels in eSports, the sharp learning curve and the 'solo' aspect is perhaps what has made it more difficult to grow and be appreciated since its heyday with the amount of other FPS titles out there, unfortunately if something feels too difficult to enjoy you're quickly drawn to try something else
Thanks for your comment! Well described :)