Horizon: Zero Dawn is Feminist
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Hey bud! Thanks for the shout-out! :)
Damn straight, Rags hitting the big time. Rags you need a Patreon soon I want to support you
How did you find out?
Undoomed hey
I ship Undoomed and Rags
+Rags Probably how many of us planned on sending it to him, some just beat others to it. Lol. Undoomed is pretty fucking wonderful, me and my girl spoke to him through twitter, he's a blast.
If the sex of the protagonist doesn't matter, why are feminists constantly triggered about this alleged lack of female leads?
It's perfectly rational.
You're supposed to White Knight when she says there's not enough female leads, and excuse her responsibility when she claims it doesn't matter after she's summarized her demands.
because they are not saying make every character female but sometimes throw them a bow and give more good female characters. Not much to ask for.
Double think. It doesn't matter but it does matter.
Fuck them.
Everytime I see these so-called feminists complaining by even the slightest of things. I ignore and scroll on. People should be throwing a thumbs down and continue with their days.
They never talk about games that allow you to pick and customize their character, its really annoying how they either gloss over or straight out ignore that.
Regardless you don't tell an artist what to paint and you don't tell a game designer how to make their game. If I made a game and I wanted the protagonist's side kick to be a floating pair of wise cracking tits with bazookas instead of nipples.
Then by fucking god I will put in there because it'd be my fucking game damn it!
"ctrl + f find female" if only it was that easy
LMAO gold comment
It is if this is PornHub.
Lmao
tho in the comments he highlighted, there were people who were saying that they would not play such game for having a female protagonist. 2 minutes in and he is already wrong
There are two comments. Literally two. One of them is complaining more about the fact that the game may be attempting to push some feminist narrative that we haven't seen yet, which it could very well do. The other is some edgelord who can't even grammar. Don't be such a fucking twat.
"I don't care about gender in video games, but here's why we need more women."
That's how she thinks.
I don't care if it's male or female, as long as it's not a shit character.
a.k.a like Rey. A shit and incredibly bland Mary-Sue
Matt Allen how are they a Mary Sue
+Joe Bilson
1:she can fix the Millennium Falcon better than Han fucking Solo
2:she ca successfully pull off a Jedi mind trick despite having NO training whatsoever
3: she never held a lightsaber in her life and yet is able to beat Kylo who was trained by Luke (and no, using a staff is VERY different to using a lightsaber)
Or a shit game lol
I do care a little but only cause i feel wierd playing as a girl cause im a huy
You know, even with all the stupid claims, I still gotta give her credit for not directly attacking gamers like 99% of feminists do. She even responded to rags on twitter and at least attempted to have a real discussion unlike the majority who would just block him and or call him a "shit human".
LofeOfZofe I’m a feminist and I loooove video games so no, I don’t attack gamers, I am one
Which doesn't even make any sense. He's a dog! They are being so racist assuming he is a human!
This guy does appear to be a shit human tho, spending thirty minutes on this just to create a breeding ground for hate toward feminists. Recommended right under are more videos about girls being in battlefield or whatever. A bunch of bullshit over video games acting like this is important stuff or an enlightened outlook. It’s a non issue
@@ertr3388
Such a non-issue you're commenting on it, it seems.
"Today I want to make a different type of video"
"A good one?"
I fucking lost it, so savage
oh hello i didnt know you watched Rags
Been watching since about 30k (not to sound like one of those hipsters :p ) but yeah, really enjoy his videos.
Checkmate atheists
I've been around since the beginning.
Right. Yeah...the most savage response of all time. Didn't see it coming at all
She's basically saying we need more women protagonists because woman can't play male protagonists, but men just need to sack up and want more female only protagonists.
What will satisfy you feminist types? He's purple, his name is Roderick, and he runs on D batteries.
"So you are saying he needs a D to function, how dare you! He needs some sort of amorphous source, not some patriarchal bs." Is the sort of anwser you will get to that question. Don't reason with idiots, they will bring you down to their level.
and the protagonist of zero dawn wasnt made to look good? shes a thin redhead with all the traits men like in women, of course shes made to look attractive
Some guys must be into that, we all got fetishes.
nah fam
Closure yeah bro
Whats with all the people saying she's insanely ugly? Whats wrong with you? She's basically as fit as you can be and I dont think there's anything wrong with the face, the hair's pretty badass too. What, is your definition of "not-ugly" to look like Kate Upton or Megan Fox?
***** *press X for doubt*
WHAT?! This chick didn't even bother listing Portal? That game has a Female Protagonist AND Antagonist!
Dallows65, And was a brilliant game.
Im never playing that again
she didn't bother listing " Princess Crown " either...
probably because it has the word "Princess" in it...
and that's too stereotype already.
What about "La Puscelle" ? Nah... characters too young. Or " Yggdra Union" ? Nah...
Dallows65
i know right?
She ask our opinion but the comments on her video are deactivated...
Hikaru Joestar
trust me, she isn’t the first feminist to do so.
they all seem to start having that in common once they get bigger channel wise, and as a female i find it dumb that they say this sorta shit.
i also find horizon zero dawn is an awesome game and i can’t wait to see more from the group who made the game.
it was very interesting story wise and the ending was extremely excited to me, not the final boss but the story centered around it, it did do some sequel baiting but i can forgive it for how excited the story was to me, just my personal opinion, and this chick is somewhat wrong, some characters did find alloy very attractive, like Petra for instance.
however they didn’t force a relationship for this game either, and i appreciate that a ton, since it seems a lot of games try to force that.
horizon was actually the game that drew me to the ps4 after my switch died too, and even though they sequel baited they actually could just leave the game as a one off and it would still work very well in relation to story, it does seem like we will get more from this series and i can’t wait for more.
sorry to ramble a bit, it’s just all that came to my mind while listening to her points, at least halfway through the video anyways.
@@MaskedKittyYT can i marry you? This is the best description i have ever seen.
You might want to back off of minesweeper. I've heard that hardcore minesweeper fans have _explosive_ tempers.
I'll see myself out.
Venerable Dreadnought Omg 😂😂
Venerable Dreadnought top kek 👌
Venerable Dreadnought Take just one wrong step and BOOM, they're triggered.
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I won't play Horizon Zero Dawn because I don't have a PS4.
I guess I'm racist now.
Marek Sandomżski but hey pc master race fight : )
If only that was true :D
Not cool dude took a joke and ruined it with racism god people like you make me hate the internet
Marek Sandomżski lol
Hunter Cunningham What? lol
i would honestly like to play as a villain thats well written.
Like Arthur Morgan
@@sonofkabisch he is not like a full villan, he isnt an evil man just an outlaw but still has moral codes so i cant see him as a villan we he isnt "evil".
sonofkabisch Arthur's much more of an anti hero than an actual villain
Where did they talk about playing as a villain?
Like venom in ultimate spiderman
A feminist making a weak-sauce argument with nothing to back up their claims? Nothing out of the ordinary here. Carry on citizens.
Thanks
Michael Prymula aww, poor snowflake are you melting?
Michael Prymula considering that your last post consists of a 2-worded rebuttal with one of them being a overused buzzword, I don't think you have the right to lecture me on how I'm the snowflake here, snowflake.
How does it feel to be triggered? Typical leftist arguing using feelings and name calling rather than facts.
Happily married actually. Calling people virgins just points out your own insecurities. Once again more proof that leftists use name calling rather than facts.
Witcher 3(example used in video) is actually the most feminist game I've ever played. Excluding Geralt, every woman is good, smart, kind, etc and every man is evil, dumb, shifty. Then Geralt is a straight up white knight. A woman steals something and men chase her -reaction-> kill those men. A woman gets insulted and Geralt is like "That's no way to speak to a lady". His girlfriend yennifer treats him like a beta male and other characters even call him out on it.
The first storyline is about an abusive husband and father. In the Skellige elections, the woman once again is the best leader. Trish is saving all the witches from the evil male king. The world is being saved by some girl who's being chased by an evil man. If you want the best ending you have to enable her to act like a spoiled child.
The blood and wine expansion is even worse. A woman manipulates a man to destroy a town. Then, if you want the good ending, you actually have to kill the man she manipulated and save her. If you let the guy go you end up in jail.
That game is so fucking retarded sometimes.
Right Wing Radio I agree heavily. Always found it annoying how Geralt would say "That's no way to treat a lady" because someone was a little rude to her, yet he's fine with beating up, or even murdering men who don't deserve it. If a woman is committing a crime, I want to be able to stop her and put her to justice, not kill the guys who are mad at her (like the example you gave.
Right Wing Radio Never thought of that game like that.
Remember it's based on a book. It's not part of an agenda it's just the way Witcher 3 went.
it's an RPG so it depends on your choices and how you see things example yennefer doesn't have to be your romance option you can chose triss or neither and just go to a brothel. the bloody baron story line paints both the husband and wife as pieces of shits just for different reasons, geralt even comments on this. the skellige election depends on what you perceive as good or bad since both siblings have pros and cons to their rule. you said the women is the best leader that's probably because its the way you see it others might think its better for skellige to maintain their military tactics. ciri the girl who saves the world is being chased by an evil man (elf) but is being saved by a good man. the blood and wine ending again depends on what you think is a good ending, maybe the good ending is letting her die to save a kind of sort of innocent vampire man. you do got jail but your set free later on no harm done.
I hate SJW as much as the next guy but come on man not everything is a conspiracy against men. be very careful your starting to sound like them.
1. Geralt is a white knight, no matter what you choose.
2. yennifer is his girlfriend before any romance options
3. The baron is clearly the bad guy. You even get to tell him how much of a piece of shit he is. Was he an abusive husband and father? yes. Does he get aired out excessively for it? yes.
5. Ciri is being saved by a good man? OK, but who is the hero? Ciri. Who is the evil one? right...
6. Oh, you get thrown in jail and the entire city hates you and you don't get your money. No harm done though....lmao dude.
Lastly, what did I ever say about SJW's? Oh yeah, nothing.
protagonist is female in tomb raider. people play that. protagonist is female in beyond two souls. protagonist is female in mirrors edge. nobody has ever started shit over those games. back when third wave feminism wasnt as large as all the people that are involved with it.
Come on, we ALL know people play Tomb Raider mostly to watch Lara Croft's ass. I played the first one when I was a kid and HATED IT... but still played because it used to make me all fuzzy down there.
Aurex sameeeeee
Exactly, no other audience in history supported Female protagonists so mcuh a videogames. Before all this SJW garbage started videogames were all about getting better female protagonists. Now nobody is complaining about having female protagonists, but Crappy female protagonists.
....Dino Crisis...
Resident Evil 1
Parasite Eve....
In Fear Effect, the protagonist is a lesbian. Though... bet that would be turned around as a male fantasy or something.
Aurex lol so true
This is the most egregious problem I see with this approach. The fact that all these people want to tell other people how to do their jobs. A game is a piece of art. The creator has full control over it. You don't like it, tough cookies. Don't buy it. Become a game designer. Create your own games.
They do. They just getting yelled at. There's a certain irony when gamers yell "censorship" when it's in their favor. If the creator's pressured to remove something people largely don't care about(like say with Mevius Final Fantasy) you don't hear shit and the change of the artistic vision is 100% acceptable.
But anyways I am not sure why I am bothering to write about this. It's mostly likely gonna get dogpiled anyways.
exactly what I say, if developers made a game based on people's ideas, you will have to make like thousands of different variations of the same game just to please certain people. a female protagonist for Gears of war, a black protagonist for Gears of War. You cannot make a game that appeals to everyone, that is why a thing called "Target Audience" exists in the Media industry, it is because they want a certain group of gamers to play it.
That's is very much true. Though is it bad to occasionally try to appeal to more people at the same time? I am not saying: change games fundamentally, but would it really be that much of a bother if say a MMO in the signup page includes a third gender option(ex. not specified). It's very little effort and doesn't affect anyone except for the ones that like it. Which may not even be that many, but still. It does little.
Just baby steps, that's all.
There are no third gender. Deal with it.
A MMORPG is a different thing, I do think it is important for Roleplaying games to have more options for your player but in terms of a 3rd Gender? (I personally believe there is only male and female but have enough respect to let people decide their own views) I do not think that will cause any problems to the developers but when it comes to the majority's common views as well as other player's interpretations, they may address you as a male or a female because you generally look like one or the other, you cannot assume people are going to know you are a different gender by appearance and you cannot expect people to just accept your 3rd gender and deal with it when people judge gender on appearance.
For a shooter game set in World War II, you cannot expect a multiplayer or singleplayer to give the option of playing a female or 3rd gender when such things were not seen at the time. females only recently been given the option to be on the frontlines though it is still a challenge to accept because man's instincts is to protect a woman from harm, especially if they know them so I assume it would do more damage than save lives and you cannot called that sexist because that has always been an instinct for millennia just just women are naturally able to mother a child because instincts.
So as for 3rd Gender? it can be accepted in MMORPGs but do not expect it in any game that has a story to tell from someone's point of view.
who cares if the main character is either male or female. if the game has good gameplay, storyline, and I'm having fun playing it.... I'll play it.
Matt Harder Well said, good sir!
Ethan Redsky I'm not sure if the end of your comment was towards me or to the other guy but I know it's just a video game that's why I said I don't care if it's a male or female main character if I'm having fun playing it....then ill play it.
Matt Harder your ruining my middevil emersion
thegamingchance idk how I'm doing that but okay
L_E_A_N_D_Y umm hi
Gamers: we play games for fun and to escape reality
Feminists : that's highly illegal
And there are plenty of comments from feminists that complain about male lead charecters...so now we're back at square one again, yea?
Basically yes, i've said this before and i said it again, there's no winning with delutional feminists
***** Or alternatively, destroy the 3rd wave movement so actual feminists who are advocates of gender equality can do their work in peace
ProtoMario BUT PROTO
ProtoMario No ones ever happy...
fuck off
*jonh cena appears behind*
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
Ocean Man BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF HE APPEARED OR NOT?!
Ocean Man where? I can't see him.
+ Axel Drans
Slim Shady, that's how.
Can't see me, my time is now! You can't see me, my time is now!!
nothing personal
Fun fact male gamers are better at making hot female characters than actual females.
Blackzero123 what about lesbians eh
Aloy is hot tho
parshnipz57
They might go the extra mile which could make a cliché character and/or become annoying rather than sexy
I dunno man,Bayonetta's character designer is a woman
when I hear that notification sound and see the dog icon, my heart almost stops from happines.
Matheus Boarini Jeesus
TheVertix IsHere lol
Cheezus crust
You might want to get that checked out, it could be a health issue.
Does your metaphorical tail wag too?
I don't want to play this game because it has a female protagonist.
Chiron really?
Why?
guys this is obviously sarcasm
Rags: I FOUND IT AT LAST!!
Bloggerboy1000 because it might be of his personal prefference. Come on guys...like really
modern feminists want the entire pie chart to be pink
@Floofie kun pink not white.
"This russianbadger video is hilarious, the automatico is just like the k10"
*sees notification that rags has uploaded*
"OH FUCK SORRY BADGER GOT TO GO"
Jason Pabon hmm i like badger more tbh
Coen wildevos agreed. rags is still an amazing RUclipsr though
Jason Pabon badjur doesnt have long videos you burrito
Don't be sorry, Bajur is my papi
Trem You can't do 30-90 minutes of memes like Badger does dawg. Most of it will be Clarence stealing the spotlight.
"I can't bone Grunt either way, which is a FUCKING TRAVESTY BioWare, what the fuck! He has the finest ass on the citadel." -Rags 2017
The Curious Orca, Well Grunt is bloody hot.
Hell yeah he is!
Garrus is where it's at.
Nah Wrex All the way for me
Kaishi Mitsune, How about both at the same time?
I'm really torn between falling in love with her voice and running away disgusted from what she says. Mixed signals for real :)
run away shes a feminist
Her voice is kind of cute but she has some serious problems with accent.
@@Spellweaver5 You call that a problem? ;)
@@Quasihamster Compared to what she actually says it's not but it's still annoying when you can barely decipher her words.
@@Spellweaver5 I had no problem at all understanding her. Being European might help. :)
In fallout 4, it is slightly advantageous to be a woman. Black widow>lady killer
Everyone said my name was stupid so I changed it. yeah I usually used that logic as well you tend to kill more men than women
Stiffy Jiffy Also there's way less female characters in that game, be that enemies or regular NPCs
TheJrr but who cares about enemies I got boobs on my side and a skin tight vault suit
Confirmed Bachelor isn't in Fallout 4 though. Pretty sure it only appeared in New Vegas.
Stiffy Jiffy Sorry to say but Confirmed Bachelor and its female equivelant Cherchez La Femme only appear in New Vegas.
"I want to take a rather feminist approach" This should be good.
xyzqsrbo trabslated: "I want to cause a problem where there is none"
I love trabstlating things.
xyzqsrbo bad*
+Flan Cake You don't get what the expression "This should be good" means do you? It is a sarcastic statement used by man people.
xyzqsrbo I know, but I acted as if it was literal.
Yeah but but tampons are mainly marketed to woman, ITS A PROBLEM.
Do you want to use it ?!?
I'm not defending her but at least when you asked her about it on Twitter, she responded instead of blocking you.
Team Pottsy72, Shes a rare one.
I can't help but cringe every time I see Aloy sliding down a rope with her bare hands.
shut up b0ss everythang is p0ssible if you believe in it
Alex Krycek Hey, Chris Redfield punched a boulder, soooo...
Why? If we where so realistic then she should be dieing with every little hit or at least have a dozen broken bones with ever little hit since those are metallic monsters.
+Anon ymous
Suspension of disbelief, man.
Alex Krycek in the game they gave her this metal thing to slide down ropes
Most gamers actually like female protagonists. Tomb Raider and Mirror's Edge has female protagonists and people love them. Many people have female characters in Skyrim. Just go on to nexus and look at what people do with their characters. Women might not get this but men really do like women it is like there is a natural attraction towards them. And it doesn't have to be sexual either. Strong female characters look cooler because they are female and yet strong. Also playing as a female character is more interesting especially if the gender plays a role in the story. So despite what feminists say I believe most men are tempted to play as a female lead in games and that's why you are seeing this kind of games being made: they sell.
i agree
sk8erbyern amen
Yep, that is why I play female Shepard or a female character in the game Black Desert Online. It is fun. It has like a different perspective you know?
That could be boiled down to sex sells
I think this comment is wrong. Gamers like *games,* not just the protagonist. ;3
Keter class SCP: The rags smackdown is back.
fool!
nothing can contain the smackdown!
Captain Natjo XD
The male protagonist of this game would be named Tungsten
souldry no it would be
The Iron Bull..hehe
It would also be Aloy
No it would be compound
Big Man Tiron
souldry Le-deshaunte Juan Small-Cock would be an interesting name.
Samus did it first, and did it better!
Cameron Moore but i like Aloy o.o i also like Samus though. Til the blight that is other M but we dont mention that bastard child in polite company.
Ripley did it firster and betterer!
Teeny Tiny Asakura why are we having a female hero dick measuring contest
Cameron Moore Ellen Ripley
No one is going to address the problem with the game having humanity regress back to stone age hunter/gatherer technological development and using makeshift spears and bows while *_hunting down killer autonomous robots_*, but we have to address the fact that the main playable character... is a woman?
Find me a person that actually cares about that aspect. Please. I want to hear them actually say (and not simply as a joke) that they won't play Horizon: Zero Dawn because the main character is a woman and not for actual pressing concerns like the game's story and setting are concerning (e.g. narrative cohesion, suspension of disbelief, plot holes, ect.)
+Dishoungh White
But that still doesn't make sense. It's at least excusable (although not admirable) if someone is not interested in politics or world events and is ignorant/uniformed on the matter. Or even if they're people influenced by whatever the mass media feeds them. At the end of the day, they're just another person and it it's inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
...That isn't the case in Horizon: Zero Dawn. You're a hunter/gatherer and you're actively looking for a fight with killer-fucking-robots. And you're using spears. And bows. When your life is in jeopardy and you're actually in combat, unless you're an unhinged berzerking-nearing-suicidal dolt, you're going to look for technological edges in combat. This is one of the things humanity does best - inventing new ways to kill things.
I mean, it's not like the society we see is an actual stone age society. It's humans in the future that have reverted to that. Even if we didn't build the killer robots and they didn't turn on us and they're alien or whatever, we still have documentation of about 6,000 years of human progress. More if you count cave paintings. And, even if we didn't, some village shaman or some shit is going to see killer robots dispensing death, murder and mayhem and think "gee, that's awfully fucking useful abilities - we know these things have parts and components that make them up just like we have bones, so what if we could use their abilities?". I refuse - _absolutely refuse_ - to sit back and accept that in the face of *_possible extinction_* that humanity would be _that retarded_ and keep steadfastly using spears made of metal scrap and makeshift bows to take on autonomous combat-ready killer robots. It's fucking absurd.
Even more so when, IIRC, in one of the past gameplay trailers we see the main character tossing a consumable EMP/electricity grenade at one of the robots. I mean come the fuck on... From both a gameplay and a narrative stand-point, that's just a contradiction and a dumb move.
matchesburn Fine. Fair enough.
Whenever the topic comes up about gender for protagonists the only thing I care about is believability. Doesn't matter what gender or color the protagonist is as long as what they are doing fits with however the character is designed. Alloy looks and feels believable for her role in this game. If she was ripping the robots apart with her bare hands I would have a hard time rolling with that.
This reminds me of movies like Cowboys and Aliens or Independence Day with its naive message of "it doesn't matter if the enemy outclasses you with who knows how many thousands of years of technological development, firepower and outnumbers you greatly, you can still win by being brave and special and smart and perfect!"
The suspension of disbelief is at an all-time low for me with this game.
Lance Leander L. Cembrano You can relate to a character in other areas than just gender. Look at a characters vulnerabilities, strengths, charms, weaknesses, and overall outlook on life.
I'd actually love seeing more games where you can be the villain...
I lost it at, "And Minesweeper" XD
Owen Porter i also lost at cod being an rpg
I I I I sexually identify as a a attack helicopter and am very angry that in almost all video games I can't choose to be a attack helicopter and I'm left out #helicoptersexuallitymattersinvideogames
I love this comment
are you triggered by the constant destruction of your race?
I actually identify as a bottle oil and I never see them in video games #oillivesmatter
P0ISON dead meme
I would love to see an attack helicopter in skyrim. MAKE IT A MOD!
Games without political agendas. That'd be great.
I just started playing HZD and my forehead is already hurting from all the facepalms.
I want to play as an attack helicopter
Plane simulator ?
Male or female protagonist I don't care , Love both.
I mean for games
Emmanuel Omoge unless their shit characters
Emmanuel Omoge Like the two legendary raiders of tombs, Nathan Drake and Lara Croft
Imagine a game with a heroic female protagonist, who at the same time shelters and cares for her offspring. Now THAT would be unique and interesting.
Now that is what I'd find more interesting than Horizon! SOmeone should make that.
Jonathan Thörn Wait about 20 years, its on my to do list.
So like wolf children with more action? Would actually be great.
Based on the graph by feminist frequency 55% of all video games can be played as a female protagonist. 9% exclusive female and 46% optional female, makes 55% of all games can be played as a female. I would say that is more than half.
This many people are awake? Time zones. Not even once.
Void of Space and Time 6:36 AM
Void of Space and Time 11 in the morning in Ireland and England
HolyCrapGamer 12:40 in germany as of now.
Void of Space and Time 6 am but I saw the notification and woke up immediately to watch
Void of Space and Time 9 am in Brazil, great time to be awake.
I fucking died when you called minesweeper an rpg
(I think I found it a little too funny)
LaMarque Drew Best RPG ever
I want to play as the villain more too.
When she says gender doesent matter to her the tone of voice shes using is so pretencous
And Lo and Behold, the game is now Sony's most successful new IP on the PS4, despite having a female on the cover. It sold 2.6 million copies in a couple of weeks while the original Uncharted (which stars a man) sold 1.5 million copies when it came out. Just some food for thought.
"The protagonist's gender isn't even something I care about". And Titanfall Princess "Isn't mad."
Someone fucking shoot me, i went though the comments on the 2015 trailer there is fucking 16+ comments complaining about people disliking the female protagonist and 0 i repeat *fucking zero* comments about disliking or hating the protagonist *because* she's female. I saw 1 comment saying they don't like the characters personality.
Mostly in the newest trailers I see people complaining,
just fanboys running out of reasons to damage control.
People who say it is a disadvantage to be a woman in Mount and Blade Warband haven't been paying attention.
While it is true that to directly control fiefs, you need much more renown, there are many advantages, most notably that you can be married to lords, allowing you indirect control over much much more with a lot less effort.
Because M&B Warband is one of the best medieval simulators in existance. The only game so far that I have seen that will probably beat it out in that department is Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Although I haven't played it yet, and it is still in beta.
Nerobyrne they should have made women weaker as well for proper realism. Also they should get paid maternity leave from war to raise their children.
I dont think about the gender of the character i like playing the story. I like a protagonist by personality.
You got me I don't want to play Horizon Zero because i don't want to play as a female. I only play games where i play as a homosexual transgender female that identify herself as a male pony.
Slight generic spoilers ahead for Horizon Zero Dawn....
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I like how in this game basically all of the different ways of leadership and communities in this new world are shown to be egocentric, misguided in their ways and goals and childishly ignorant. No matter whether they're the matriarchal Nora, the Sundom of Carja with their sun-kings or any others. Once you learn of the past and how things got to where they are in HZD it reveals all of those attempts at forming society to be just the same old fallible humans doing their mistakes over and over again...
I got into the game recently and put a good 80+ hours in. I really like the combat, but the narrative has only one admirable male character (SPOILERS) who is basically a retired, religious, John Wick. The rest are either amoral, evil, or cucks that could believably have a place in an HZD reverse harem fan fic.
@@zachsoto7621 I never had that impression that all the males were horrible. It was just bad dialogue distributed all around regardless of gender. This is compounded on the fact that the protagonist usually has to be the one who solves everybody's problems. Sometimes simply innocuous poor writhing can be misdiagnosed as a shitty gender agenda.
I dunno, that just feels like it's setting all of them up to be knocked down by the beacon of progressive morality that Aloy is. For no readily defined reason, given she's supposed to have been raised from birth by an extremely conservative Nora hunter and all.
@@CruelestChris People do rebel against their parents and their worldviews, but even more signifigantly Aloy played with the computer from a young age and who knows what sort of stuff was there to mold her mind...
@@markotark
Yeah, but this is in a world where rebelling means being murdered by robots, so I'd expect her to be either dead or highly disciplined. And to be honest the whole scene with the Focus is bizarre since Aloy has no reason not to hand it over to him. He is literally the only person in the world she can trust, and I'd think he'd at least want to make sure it couldn't hurt her. Frankly, he should have introduced it as something he found on a hunt and taught her how to use it, this would give them some nice bonding moments rather than most of the childhood sections consisting of Aloy being a little shit.
(Also it's questionable what she could have learned from the Focus given what happened to the APOLLO archive, though I could perhaps accept it might have data on it related to the job of the person she got it from)
-I APPLAUD you for never getting aggressive, saying on point, and offering nothing but legitimate, constructive feedback/criticisms. This was, by far, the best, most thoughtfully laid-out argument I've ever had the pleasure of watching!
-BTW...I just HAD to share a random realization:" Everything you need to know about feminist philosophy can be obtained just by reading the word FEMINISM". It clearly DOESN'T stand for gender equality, (which is merely an unrealistic expectation) it more clearly stands for FEMALES ONLY.
-With that in mind; just from observing their behaviors, it's abundantly clear that their only goal is to basically... receive the same BENEFICIAL treatments as MEN, WITHOUT any of the DRAWBACKS of being a man. It's THAT level of Entitlement that really bothers me. Now I'm NOT at all devoted to "Meninism" but It just feels good to vent every now and then.
The weird thing is, I didn't even realize the protagonist was a woman until I saw this video....
Or rather, to put it another way, it didn't matter to me, it was a character in a computer game, gender wasn't really on the radar, what matters to me is the game itself.
PRDibble I would take a bunch of squirrels disguised as a millionaire as long as the game's good
But muh masculinity and immersion
I'm not a fan of feminism or SJW bullshit, I still preordered Horizon. If the game looks good, i'll buy it. Who gives a fuck about the gender of the main protagonist? lol.
Mr Dogbert As good as the game looks you shouldn't pre-order anymore. But it's your money, I can't tell you what to do.
lawl, fail.. noob in the comments
Peasant, LUL.
Void of Space and Time It doesn't matter who you are, no one cares what you have to say. If I want a game on day one, I preorder it. So far I've never regretted buying any game I've preordered before, and I doubt I will anytime soon considering breath of the wild is the most recent game I have preordered. I don't wait for reviews because I don't care what others think about a game. If I like it, that's literally all that matters. If I see a movie trailer that convinces to see a movie, I go see that movie.
Jackson Meade Reasons you are entirely wrong with your points - No Man's Sky,
Almost all early access games, and plenty more that I remember the gameplay of, but can't name off the top of my head.
I CAN STAND THIS ACCENT
I was hoping people are just going to enjoy Aloy's character because she's a good character instead of bringing feminism into it but no, we just have to bring feminism into anything that has to do with women.
Or a lack of them...
I smell *sniff* *sniff* FEMINISM!?!
Bee Kay sniff sniff I smell... idiotic feminist talk
Even if someone believes that modern, western feminism isn't cancer, it still doesn't belong in video games.
Ok just to get it out of the way Aloy is pretty damn hot, at least to my standards. What's this bullshit about "Girl Next Door" She's fucking smoking and i'm pretty sure most people would say the same.
Aloy is young. Plenty young girls next door are more hot than her. Plenty are uglier too but in general she is not some amazing beauty unless you have a thing for redheads. She is not ugly but not really a beauty.
Well from my humble perspective she is quite attractive however i may have been a bit hyperbolic. I have seen better
+Lance Leander L. Cembrano What are you trying to prove in this comment section?
That she's a murderous bitch, obviously...
(talking about "lance", BTW. Nice fake male profile...)
Better than Nathan Drake ??? Hell NOO
"Please do not contact this person to harass or insult her"
Hahaha...
agree
I may be late on this but I just found this video. Wasn't Nathan Drake literally designed by a focus group of women, that were asked what they found sexy in men? Also, don't feminists/sjw always argue that they have a problem with games because characters don't look like them? So even if a small group of people didn't play Zero Dawn because the lead doesn't look like them, isn't that in line with feminist beliefs?
@Qyx Huh?
@Qyx I Did Play The Game, But I Didn't Really Notice The Feminist Agenda,I Just Assumed That Since The Game Has A "Tribal" Like System That Worships A Fertility Goddess That Their Culture And Governemt System Would See Women As Valuable
@Qyx And Because Of That I Thought The Emphasis On Women In The Game Was A Normal Thing
@Qyx Darn I Guess You Got A Good Point Bro, Well Atleast It's Not Like The Last Of Us 2
@Qyx @Qyx Good Point Bro, Also As For A Game Where The Men are Good And Women Are Bad I Think There Is A Game Like That.....
"The developers didn't have to portray Aloy as a sexual object to sell the game."
Ok, what the fuck?
Aloy is in no way sexual. At all. First, she's voiced by Ashly Burch... so that's a boner-killer right there... but seriously, she's not flirtatious, she doesn't wear skin-tight clothing, she doesn't have any romantic relationships at any point in the whole game, despite being written as a *complete* Mary Sue.
And I'm not joking about how Aloy is written. People literally end up worshiping her. She is the unique chosen one with no flaws, secret powers no one else has or even understands, and whom everyone loves... and anyone who doesn't love her is portrayed as petty and envious of her success... and Aloy always gets the last word in, leaving them gnashing their teeth at her one-liners. At one point, Aloy meets a king... and he's on the border of throwing himself at her until she sets him straight... and of course he apologizes and ｒｅｓｐｅｃｔｓ ｗｏｍｅｎ from that point forward. Imagine... a king throwing himself at a savage from a backward tribe who only did a minor favor for one of his subjects (relatively speaking for a king). Oh, and spoilers... she's actually a _clone_ of the (also female) genius scientist who developed the plan that saved all life on Earth from extinction by developing a super smart learning and compassionate AI (that loved her, of course) and then sacrificed herself after a mechanical malfunction threatened her project. Y'know, 'cause it wasn't enough that she had to be the savior of mankind. She also had to be a martyr to the cause and an unappreciated hero of her time. Just about every cutscene was making me groan and roll my eyes toward the end of the game.
But getting back on track, the only person that comes _close_ to having a romantic relationship with Aloy is the son of the war chief of her tribe whom she, without any kind of set up, starts offering to teach all these secrets of the past... even then, it's not overt. It's only implied... but he's the _only_ person she favors this way.
OuroborosChoked
i can somewhat agree that she is very much a mary sue at points, but i personally still really enjoy the story they got going on in my background, you know with what’s going on in the world and what happened there to make it what it was in her time.
i also will say that being voiced by Ashley burch isn’t a turn off to everybody, i find her voice very good for the characters i’ve heard her play so far, like chloe and alloy, they’ve both kinda been turn ons for me tbh.
but i’m a lesbian that kinda likes when voices are a bit softer in some ways but blunt in others, so it just might be me, hell if i know for sure.
i played the game for a few hours and got board lol
Robbie berg I've played like 20 hours already and I haven't seen boards. Sounds fun, where did you find it?
So its totally fine for women to complain "Oh, I can't paly a woman in this game!"
but when a select few of us, me not included, say "I don't wanna play cuz it has grills," we get yelled at
ok
Can we for once not act like a party pooper like Anita Sarkeesian and just enjoy playing the damn game? If you don't like the party then don't go in and stop crying like a baby when the bouncer block you from entering...
I really don't care if I play as a girl or a male. I only care about is the story.
Given a choice I tend to play as a female,and I have done that since Fallout
I don't get it. The BONUS of playing this game is it's a female protagonist. I don't understand why people are calling it a 'feminist' game. It looks frigging awesome. Oh, because the male characters are garbage in it? Well, basically everyone in Metroid is garbage but Samus. Can ALL of you PLEASE keep your POLITICAL bullshit OUT of video games? Andromeda's also under attack. Neir next? We gonna call Metal Gear patriarchal too just for shits and giggles? FUCK.
I couldn't care less if the main character of a game is male or female. The Witcher has a male protagonist and i freaking love it. Horizon has a female protagonist and, guess what, I FREAKING LOVE IT. This video is full of bull.
Im not playing horizon cuz i cant afford it.:'(
Sniperabcxyz Same here, too much games, gonna wait for the price to go down
Sniperabcxyz :(
i need a terabyte
same, already got nier:automata coming sooo... (which is also features a women as the main character, but the girl talking in the video probably won't count that as she is "sexy" or cause you can see her panties...cause japan)
I can't fucking wait for Nier, the combat looks so good and the bosses look awesome.
First they complain about not have a female protagonist and when they get one they still complain
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Sorry that was meant for another comment
Let's all take a moment to just really absorb the hidden gem in all of this, yes it's a rags video so the whole thing is a gem but really, PLAYING AS A VILLAIN MORE, how do we make that shit happen, obviously don't ruin the idea like feminists do but just lets all remind the devs and companies on occasion that if a villain option is available it would total boost sales, and probably spark some juicy controversy, lets make the 2020s the era of villainy, evil laughter filling the air, insane ride in adoption rates for cats from shelters (especially the violent ones), sharks with frikin laser beams on their heads, swivel chairs as far as the eye can see. It shall be a good era indeed.
several hours into horizon
can confirm very, very , very easily ALOY isn't a feminist, mostly because you literally watch her grow up. she has no ideals of female superiority and the game would be absolutely no different if aloy was a man
Dalton Williams
agreed, but feminists are dumb and will always make that argument when dealing with female protagonists.
the one thing we don’t know about alloy is what she’s into relationship wise though, considering that was never brought up, and thank god it wasn’t, i enjoy games a ton when they don’t force relationships, you know?
and i’m mostly bringing up that sorta thing because both genders hit on alloy during the game, the main girl character that hit on alloy from what i remember is Petra, i don’t remember which male for sure did hit on her but i remember a couple different ones, but even then they didn’t force it either way towards what she was or wasn’t into, so technically you can look at her being a straight or a gay protagonist just based on what happens in game, i do hope they don’t force a relationship in the next game either though, it’s better when they keep it out in my opinion.
Actually a modern feminist hero would use female qualities to solve problems. Such as talking out problems. Group interactions. Language skills. Combat skills is just generic action hero stuff and her gender identity is basically blank. Rags may see himself as anti feminist but it seems he agrees and demonstrates a true modern feminist disposition toward this issue.
Adam Sagehorn.
But are you implying that men are only capable of working out problems through physical and conflictual means?
That doesn't sound like an feminist thing when old school RPGs allowed you to skip quite a few fights through talking, etc.
Agreed. Though imteresting how fewer and fewr games allow that... see fallout 4. Im just saying what a faction of feminist theorists desire to see. But feminism like all "isms" isnt one single belief. Some like to see women heroes as described in the video acting like male heroes. Some have no issue with women protagonists being powerful sexual creatures others see that as demeaning. Its one of the reasons that hollywood or the gaming industry are unable to cater to feminism because the bar keeps moving. The best thing in my opinion is for creators to make characters who act true to their history and motivations and change according to their experiences like everybody does and in that way avoid bad shallow stereotypes.
You begging for it to come to PC now? In your dreams, It will NEVER E E E EVER....Come to PC!! You want Horizon? Just buy a PS4.
Rich of Cucumber Eater USA Mmph. Sarcasm I suppose?
Rich of Cucumber Eater USA pretty tru
Why would you want that, id love a world with no exclusives so we can play your amazing games and you can play our exclusives like counterstrike, lol, tabs etc
Rich of Cucumber Eater USA it's not on pc cuz Sony is to lazy to make the graphics amazing!
Fabian Putting no console gamer wants to play pc exclusives
Why does Horizon look like a boring third person futuristic garbage?
Because it is?
And this thing gets 9s and 10 atm from our unbias press. Where as mad max got 7s.
All these two games are doing (from all i know about it) the same things.
Nothing new, nothing original but all they have in them they adapt from games already on the market and are ok at.
The very definition of mediocre and such a 5 on a balanced scale or 7 in the scale this retarded media views it.
Drunkard Hu I would rather play Gone Home than this game
Drunkard Hu Because the gaming community is running dry on creativity. It's either a survival, early access game or a futuristic shooter every fucking time. It's honestly depressing.
08:45 what is she talking about? i think Aloy is very beautiful woman she was clearly made attractive looking.
she looks like a teenage boy with round face (like MAD) and long hair
Tomb Raider has a female lead, everyone liked playing as Lara????? What logic.
STOP using logic...you have to listen and belive
"What are your thoughts? Please let me know in the comments."
*Disables comments section.
23:05
"All you need is common sense."
Something,of which,you don't seem to have... -_-
At 12:30, you admit that the reason there are more male protagonists is because more males play videogames. This creates the assumption that people like to play as their own gender, but if that is true then couldn't that be a cause for less women playing video games? They can't have that same connection to their characters, thus making video games seem less appealing to them.
P.S. Love your videos, man. Keep up the good work!
TheDestinedHunter I think he's arguing that companies TRY to market games to specific demographics and make the decision of having male protagonists because they falsely assume it's super important.
That makes sense, but if we are mostly marketing to a male demographic, then could that be the cause for fewer women playing video games? Sure, it may not matter to the consumer if there is a male or female main character, but the fact that this happens shows that games are being marketed to the male gender more than the female gender. This could push away some females who are interested in the gaming community because fewer games are being created with them in mind. I do not blame the companies for doing this, as they are trying to market to the people who will play their games, but I am trying to point out that the way that they do market games can keep women out and men in. If all games were marketed to a woman audience, then there would probably be more women playing games than men.
TheDestinedHunter I think the influence marketing has on a product is vastly exaggerated. I think at best it can inform people that a product EXISTS, maybe even be the cause of a couple sales but ultimately if the product sucks, then it will be known. Fast.
Now you are suggesting that maybe the reason not as many women are into video games because the marketing doesn't target them as a demographic. But you're going about it the wrong way. A marketing campaign (a good one atleast) already KNOWS which demographics their product appeals to and they cater their campaign to THOSE people. Because you wouldn't invest a lot of money into a demographic that isn't already naturally drawn to your product.
Onto my other point. What do you suggest IS a game "made for women"? To me atleast, games are games. They're gender neutral. They just HAPPEN to attract guys more than girls because of what kinds of stimuli the different sexes generally find appealing. Just take Mortal Kombat for instance. I know plenty of girls who are into the series and love everything about it. But they're a minority of the fanbase. The game doesn't specifically go "Hey guys! Come play this game! Girls aren't allowed because they have cooties!". The devs just made a game they thought was appealing for them and released it into the wild. Then it either sticks or it doesn't.
Today, video games are a multi BILLION dollar industry. Big companies make big games with big budgets in the hope of bringing in big money. What kinds of games make the most money? BIG SPECTACLE GAMES. Game launches that are EVENTS. It's basically the same formula as Hollywood. What brings asses to seats in movies? Is it really well done, thought provoking indie flicks? Or is it big event films like The Avengers or Twilight? Here we have a perfect example of something clearly marketed to women. The Twilight series. That made a lot of money, that brought seats into theatres. So has 50 Shades of softcore porn. BUT! So has The Avengers, so has Transformers, so has a bunch of movies that attract men and women alike.
Why do I think you don't see that AS MUCH in video game industry? Because women get very attached to characters. You can have a cheap thrill action movie and still have compelling characters that will attract the female audience. But character depth and development is not the video game industry's forte. However, whenever a AAA game gets lots of female attention, it's usually those with compelling, well-develloped characters.
And this is what I consider the main reason for why more guys are gamers than girls. Because video games, as a medium, do not require good characters in order to be a good game. Mechanically, you don't even need characters at all. And since games need a lot of money to make, the game mechanics probably take up more ressources. And justifiably so. That means the end product is, usually, more appealing to the male demographic.
But! I will end my argument with this: Girls. Young women and teens especially, prefer face to face human interaction as their number one pastime. (after Netflix binge watching) socializing is THE most important thing in their lives. Whereas guys are perfectly content sitting un front of a tv playing a game for a couple of hours. Even better if friends can join in that hobby with them. Shared hobbies is usually how guys make friends in the first place.
bruh, you're either a gamer or youre not. The girl gamers that ive met in my lifetime have played whatever game appeals to them. Shit only reason my girl doesnt game is because she gets motion sickness. Think about an FPS, you cant even see the character. Like i said a gamer is a gamer, the concept as whole either interests you or it doesnt
Horizon is gonna be like far cry 4. Super fun at the start but gets really boring once you beat the main story
luckily the campaign takes a good few hours to complete, kind of annoying doing the protect and escort missions, I really need to play that game again
It depends on how you play, if you go in blazing, it'll probably be not as slow, but you need certain weapons to go in guns blazing, so yeah, really depends on choices
Another British feminist? Women with british accents are actually a huge turn-off for me. Gee, I wonder why..
Lone Maverick um... she sounds more Australian than English.
There is no British accent now cftu
It all sounds the same to me now. Also, ctfu? I think you missed the s, butterfingers. Unless that's some obscure feminist slang.
She sounds Swedish to me.
Lone Maverick British television is shit, that's why.
if you want to be mad at a British feminist and feminism in general read this: www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39177510
I've played Horizon Zero Dawn and enjoyed it immensely. That, however, did not stop me from recognising some feminist bents in it. Some which could be explained away, while others felt like it was trying to live up to a feminists wet dream.
Example. In many of the recordings Aloy finds you notice a disproportionate number of female soldiers in seemingly high positions. This however can be understood once you advance the plot along a certain point and understand the meaning behind the games name. Won't include anything else as that would be spoilers.
More in your face though is the game's portrayal of strong female characters...again in places of power, while men are portrayed as weak, often bigoted, easily manipulated. In the beginining of the game while with Aloy's tribe, the Nora, this is understandable since they are a Matriarchal tribe. but it starts raising eyebrows when you get out into the wider world.
Despite all that, it is an enjoyable and fun game. Aloy's no Samus Aran. but she's a close runner up.
*spoilers*
Really? So Sun-King Avad is "weak", or Erend, or Rost, or Sylens or whatever don't count?
@@the_last_chancer The Sun King comes across as whiny and/or shallow as he's first overly focused on finding his lover and then not so subtely offers Aloy her position when she dies.
Erend spends his time either flirting with Aloy or being a sappy drunk going on about how much better his sister was and how she had to always look out for him. This is just from first impressions as he does improve AFTER his sister dies and he adopts a more serious role, but first impressions of him weren't what you'd consider the best.
Rost kicks ass, plain and simple and went out like a boss.
Sylens is what I'd consider the series secret (ingame) main antagonist so he naturally has to be made to be competent or he'd just be your typical Saturday morning cartoon villain. As my main point stated, when you first start playing the game it can be very easy to spot what could be construed as propaganda, but the game does do a good job explaining to you why things are the way there are.
It's not the in your face, like it or be ostracised, kind of propaganda, but the kind that's done by someone who honestly loves video games and once to tell a good story from their perspective. Which isn't a bad thing. But then again it could just be people over thinking it which is a sad result of the current climate of feminists claiming that they're oppressed while they wield enough power to ruin people's lives. If that's them being oppressed heaven help us if they actually get power.
I say I don't want to play this game.
People: Ohh it's because you're a woman hater
Me: No, I just don't like exclusives and personally this just looks like an ark clone.
Unwoven Sleeve
i can understand why you’d see that but it’s not at all like ark, I’ve played though all of it except the dlc and it’s very interesting story wise with what happened to earth to make everything go back to this sorta older standard for human survival and all.
i’d say more about it but just in case i wouldn’t want to spoil it for anybody who might read the comments, the game has got a downright amazing story that you need to see every second of it without being spoiled, at least in my opinion.
that’s kinda how i approached this game and i enjoyed every second of it since i didn’t see what was coming next.
If you are a male gamer that wants to emerge in the world of the game while would you play as a female? It's much easier to imagine oneself being taller and stronger than imagining oneself having breast and long hair. It's just realistic, it's the same reason the protagonist of romance novels are always females. Because for the most part, the people that read romance novels are females, the author doesn't want to spend their resources making a romance novel with a male protagonist because they know it's not going to be read because they women that read it won't be able to relate as easy.
I like playing as a hot girl cuz then you lookin at a hot girl
I gotta say there are some games so well written that if you play as a female, you're still super immersed as a male (or vice versa). If I wanted to be me, I wouldn't play an RPG.
Though honestly I'm one of those that wouldn't care if he woke up as a girl one morning. Maybe if I woke up fat, yes, I'd be bothered, female? All the possibilities!
I know this was a few years ago, but I have only just downloaded it myself. In terms of gameplay, I can't really complain. However, the story...When Aloy was a child the story began to draw me in. But as the story progressed I realized that Aloy is the most bland and tepid Mary Sue I have ever come across in a game. As shallow as a puddle in a spoon, not interesting, in fact, her character really started to grate on me. Then all the same 'wamen power', tropes started skulking out of the woodwork. Anti- conservative propaganda in the data logs and women as war chiefs. Men as consistently useless buffoons, with white males as enemies and incompetents, black males as good guys and heroes. Then there is the matriarchs left right and centre with worship and glorification of the monotheistic feminine, basically unheard of. I did not make sense or feel realistic to me that Aloy's society be matriarchal. They are a primitive tribe in a world of danger. If you were to put yourselves in their shoes it fairly obvious that male virtues and male strength and power would be most coveted and useful to such a society. In such primitive settings leadership contests would also be based physical strength, grit, and honour. With that in mind, women in their natural setting would not be able to compete with the men, never mind become matriarchs or establish a matriarchy. It is just so unrealistic and unconvincing.
It became clear as the story went on that it wasn't a deep, gripping, and authentic story. It was a power fantasy, with a twist, for ugly feminist women. As a result, narrative nuance and depth was sacrificed in favour of playing out the agenda driven power fantasy. It's a shame because the story started out promising before getting derailed by ideology pushing. The female war chief was the most cringe thing I have ever seen, it just screamed of trying to hard. Her dialogue was so asinine and full of things 'a war chief should say, right guys?' By that point I was completely pulled out of the story and my immersion was broken. As if Aloy's deficit of any discernible character didn't do it first.
As I said gameplay is great, but the story ends up being pretty naff for everyone but feminists with an inferiority complex. I am surprised the game got as high a score as it did, no doubt many games journalists were doing, .'favours', for the inclusion of insufferable ideology into the game.
I played and beat this game and in the hours I played it I never thought this game was sjw pandering or about feminism
Metal Gear LOL look deeper into the environment of the game and how the character is. Sometimes forget shes a girl because she has physical man qualities. You have to really look to see the left wing touches tbh but its not a big "IMA A FEMINIST GAME" type of thing hahaha.
Me either. It probably was but it didn't get on my nerves. Now octopath traveler got on my nerves cause they sprinkle little sjw content in there from time to time
the original video was cancerous
It also has the like and dislikes hidden and comments disabled...
For what Aloy has going on there is little I would change about her. I am kinda bias for the girls with some nice shoulders and hips and a slim waist but still who would say she is less than a solid 8?
Aberran Fox I don't like dreadlocks but eh
MrBlackatheist Down boy...
WOOF WOOF
I am not the biggest fan of her ears but she has some strong looking shoulders and some nice wide hips. Makes me think she would be rather durable and potentially a whole lot of fun.
I won't play Horizon zero dawn because i don't have a ps4 not because of the female lead.
I totally understand. I have a ps4, but i am going into pc gaming. :)