Thanks for the video! By the way, there are 3 notes I would like to share regarding some units: 1- The Abductor has this funny name, because he can actually do exactly that. Just order it to load an enemy unit into it, and it will grab it! You can also use its EMP to facilitate this job. Then you can use your commander to capture it, or you can reclaim it using engineers/construction turrets/etc! Just make sure the enemy unit is not capable of chain-destroying your base, if you deliver it there... Important note: if you EMP and then abduct, the EMP effect will most likely have worn out by the time you unload. 2- Decoy commanders can capture units just like your commander can. This can be useful in conjunction with the abductor, without putting your actual commander in risk. Abduct them, stun them with EMP after unloading, and start your assimilation into the hive mind :) I recommend putting the decoy commander on "Hold fire" mode, though. 3- I learned a very cool move with the Liche (all hail the atomic bomber). Instead of just ordering it to standard attack (A + left click), you can Set Target with it, and queue some move commands (order it to go in, and out). The Liche will drop its payload, but won't dive down to do so. This allows you to execute tactical flybys. It's basically an automated surprise delivery! But very much atomic... :D
You don't even have to unload the units from the abductor - you can capture or deconstruct enemies while still carrying them. You can also use other transports for this - I've seen a T1 armada transport stealing enemy tanks without any EMP nearby.
thanks for making this. would love a cortex one. this is huge for new players. you're the best. thank you so much seriously. this games intimidating AF for noobs i feel like when it blows up you'll get a huge pay off
If you could do a core one would be most grateful o started this game about 3 week ago . I am addicted lol . Thanks man for your videos too really enjoy listening an try to learn more @@BrightWorksTV
Hounds are so good at kiting Fiends. Be ready to switch fire modes if you get swarmed (B key for grid). Then welders to have a nice holding line. Incredible video Thank you.
u missed some spots tho , if u select a unit hold "Spacebar" to see its weapons and the dmg multipliers! there is all the balance ;) for example T1 Defenses ( Guard / Sentry ) have a huge boost vs commanders ;) and the Liche Atomic Bomber needs atleast 2 runs to kill a commander cuz it only has a 56% dmg multiplier vs commanders o7
Amazing video, just wish the volume was like 4-500% higher, it's pretty low volume even on max, which means if an ad starts it almost blows out my eardrums >.
@@BrightWorksTV No worries, just a comment, truly enjoyed the in depth explanations, Watched a bunch of the more recent casts for which the volume levels were good, and watching the core video atm! The volume issue is not bad enough to not watch these absolute gems of knowledge, especially for someone apparently still figuring it out.
Not sure if you touched on the sharpshooter's ability to cloak but players can do that by pressing K. It drains energy. But sharpshooters + cloak + jammer + radar drone is a pretty fun unit. If enemy doesn't have LoS on you they can't even tell what's killing them or from where
Fantastic video, exactly what I needed to get my head around all the units. Heard about your channel when someone saw you in the lobby I was in. Too bad we beat you :)
Thanks for making this video! Oh, and by the way, if you create a timestamp for the very beginning (that would be 00:00 of course) and name it as "intro" or something, you'd be able to see these different timestamp points in the video timeline/progress bar. Just as a hint!
can the lazarus resurrect buildings? If you ressurect a unit does veterancy reset? Does all terrain (spider example) include water? Will amphibious tanks attack units that float and does radar detect underwater units?
great questions! Lazarus can resurrect buildings im not sure about veterancy but I think the answer is yes i dont believe so, at least not deep water amphibious tanks cant attack at all while submerged thanks for the comment :)
The Sharpshooters tab/commands include what looks like a toggle for "visible" And presumably "cloaked". The unit tooltip also mentions "cloak". I imagine it works like the commander's cloak and consumes energy Why didn't you mention this? Does it not work yet because I've never noticed anyone using the cloak for it
ahh that's a really good note, it just slipped my mind! I actually have a video scheduled where this comes into play but long story short yes its exactly like the commander cloak where it takes a bit of energy standing still and a little more when cloaked but its incredibly powerful because you can move cloaked sharpshooters into enemy lines and RAVAGE their production with a few shots seemingly from nowhere. beware though that firing does drop its cloak for a few seconds!
Can the air transports pick up enemy units? IIRC in TA picking up an enemy unit killed it. You could snipe a commander that way if they weren't paying attention.
Hahaha welllll yes and no lol. There's an experimental structure called the pawn-cannon that charges then launches pawns across the map like a LRPC it's not "standard" though. For the experimental scavenger faction there's an epic stormbringer which is probably the super heavy bomber you're thinking of. Again not standard... But absolutely AWESOME
@@BrightWorksTV thanks for the validation that I am not crazy. About six months ago I played a game and it seemed like there were a few new units, the ones I mentioned were the ones that stuck out to me. I know at that time I was playing around with the advanced settings and for the life of me couldn't duplicate what I did. I was searching last night for any reference to these units and came up blank do you know of any place that lists all of these units? Also what a great game, I got into computers by playing TA, just so awesome. Just need the TA soundtrack overlay.🤓
as someone who got here from zero-k, it's interesting to see the unit overlap. aside from the shared models, it's also clear that some units were kept from back before the two games diverged so they exist in some form in both games. i haven't played total annihilation, though, so i wonder how much of it is total annihilation legacy and how much is balanced annihilation innovation from before ZK and BAR were separate projects
ohh interesting, I've never seen zero-k gameplay but I know some of the folks on BAR that have been around those games as well often refer to some of the units by their old names. I actually picked up that bad habit accidentally just from talking with them so much hence when I reference mortys, pyros, peewees etc haha
@@BrightWorksTV that happens in zero-k, too. i picked up some old unit names from before i even played the game just because older players still use them anyway, as for zk and byar unit parallels i noticed: some units are super close mechanically: byar's jaguar is clearly equivalent to zk's blitz which used to be called panther which explains the jaguar name, though i'm pretty sure that one originated in total annihilation itself. same with zk's flea which was also called flea in total annihilation and byar calls it tick. byar's starlight feels very similar to zk's lance to me - idk if there's an equivalent in total annihilation or this was only introduced in balanced annihilation. oh, both games also have a recluse which works pretty much the same way in both games, just with a different model but you'll also notice some similarities in models rather than unit stats and mechanics - the liche and a lot of cortex bot models also exist in zero-k, though with different textures. and some of the energy infrastructures and static weapons are clearly based on total annihilation designs you made beyond all reason look pretty interesting i have to admit. maybe i'll check it out some day, though zero-k seems more like my cup of tea at the moment, with a few important game design differences making my preference skew a bit towards zero-k. byar definitely seems like the game to try if i feel like playing something other than zero-k though
By "Thesaurus" I thought you meant you would be telling us alternate community-made meme names for each bot. I am both pleasantly surprised and deeply disappointed.
I feel like the biggest failing of TA, and many of its derivatives to include 0Kelvin,and BAR, and Rusted Warfare, from a design standpoint is simply having too many units, with not nearly enough differentiation in capability. Supreme commanders biggest improvement was clearly differentiating unit roles.
I think its a blessing and a curse. on one hand it definitely is a lot to learn and tons of counters to figure out, but on the other hand I'm the kind of person that likes that sort of insane depth so I find it addicting haha
Yeah, I don't know why the game needs both bots and vehicles instead of just "land units" and then there are like 6 different artillery options within a single tech tier.
Yeah after so many months I've thought about remastering this to keep it updated with the current game. That'll have to be something I consider going into the next one, especially now that my editing skills have somewhat improved XD
>The Armada Unit Thesaurus >"Uh I know we didn't cover seaplanes, but uh that was intentional because they're specialized" ??? why do you think I'm watching a 2 hour video if not because I wanted the nitty gritty details
My man building the BAR-Wiki youtube for the ages.
Someone had to do it XD
Thanks for the video! By the way, there are 3 notes I would like to share regarding some units:
1- The Abductor has this funny name, because he can actually do exactly that. Just order it to load an enemy unit into it, and it will grab it! You can also use its EMP to facilitate this job. Then you can use your commander to capture it, or you can reclaim it using engineers/construction turrets/etc! Just make sure the enemy unit is not capable of chain-destroying your base, if you deliver it there... Important note: if you EMP and then abduct, the EMP effect will most likely have worn out by the time you unload.
2- Decoy commanders can capture units just like your commander can. This can be useful in conjunction with the abductor, without putting your actual commander in risk. Abduct them, stun them with EMP after unloading, and start your assimilation into the hive mind :)
I recommend putting the decoy commander on "Hold fire" mode, though.
3- I learned a very cool move with the Liche (all hail the atomic bomber). Instead of just ordering it to standard attack (A + left click), you can Set Target with it, and queue some move commands (order it to go in, and out). The Liche will drop its payload, but won't dive down to do so. This allows you to execute tactical flybys. It's basically an automated surprise delivery! But very much atomic... :D
Ahh these are all great notes! Thanks for the comment :)
You don't even have to unload the units from the abductor - you can capture or deconstruct enemies while still carrying them. You can also use other transports for this - I've seen a T1 armada transport stealing enemy tanks without any EMP nearby.
Incredible. I would love a cortex version too
Yep, already in the works ;)
@@BrightWorksTV you're the best!
thanks for making this. would love a cortex one. this is huge for new players. you're the best. thank you so much seriously. this games intimidating AF for noobs i feel like when it blows up you'll get a huge pay off
I try to post daily but specifically check back in on the 14th, your wish might come true ;)
If you could do a core one would be most grateful o started this game about 3 week ago . I am addicted lol . Thanks man for your videos too really enjoy listening an try to learn more @@BrightWorksTV
Hounds are so good at kiting Fiends. Be ready to switch fire modes if you get swarmed (B key for grid). Then welders to have a nice holding line. Incredible video Thank you.
yep that hound micro trick is one of those tiny details I love about armada and BAR in general. just so much intricate depth
u missed some spots tho , if u select a unit hold "Spacebar" to see its weapons and the dmg multipliers! there is all the balance ;) for example T1 Defenses ( Guard / Sentry ) have a huge boost vs commanders ;) and the Liche Atomic Bomber needs atleast 2 runs to kill a commander cuz it only has a 56% dmg multiplier vs commanders o7
ohh wow you're absolutely correct, I did forget to mention that! thank you for commenting this!!!
Goddamn dude, what a monumental effort of a video. Thanks a lot!
hahaha you're welcome, hope it helps!
Very interesting video, thank you for putting this together.
Sure thing, I know its a long one but hopefully its helpful!
Amazing video, just wish the volume was like 4-500% higher, it's pretty low volume even on max, which means if an ad starts it almost blows out my eardrums >.
Ahh yeah sorry about that mate, still trying to find the right audio balance so RUclips doesn't compress it into the ground
@@BrightWorksTV No worries, just a comment, truly enjoyed the in depth explanations, Watched a bunch of the more recent casts for which the volume levels were good, and watching the core video atm! The volume issue is not bad enough to not watch these absolute gems of knowledge, especially for someone apparently still figuring it out.
Nice little setup. With the drawn lines and the units in formation mirroring the UI organisation.
Thank you, hope it helps :)
Not sure if you touched on the sharpshooter's ability to cloak but players can do that by pressing K. It drains energy. But sharpshooters + cloak + jammer + radar drone is a pretty fun unit. If enemy doesn't have LoS on you they can't even tell what's killing them or from where
Fantastic video, exactly what I needed to get my head around all the units. Heard about your channel when someone saw you in the lobby I was in. Too bad we beat you :)
hahaha win some and lose some but i'm thrilled to welcome you to the community :)
Thanks for making this video!
Oh, and by the way, if you create a timestamp for the very beginning (that would be 00:00 of course) and name it as "intro" or something, you'd be able to see these different timestamp points in the video timeline/progress bar. Just as a hint!
sure thing, and thats great to know! I was wondering how that worked
Thanks, I needed this so much!
Thanks for putting all this work. Very helpful
Happy to help :)
Love your videos man
thanks mate :)
1:14:30 the name fits since it can stun then pick up an enemy unit so you can capture it.
ahh I hadnt thought about that but thats absolutely true, maybe some sort of play where you capture enemy T3 units or something? an interesting idea!
@@BrightWorksTV sure or construction units.
can the lazarus resurrect buildings?
If you ressurect a unit does veterancy reset?
Does all terrain (spider example) include water?
Will amphibious tanks attack units that float and does radar detect underwater units?
great questions!
Lazarus can resurrect buildings
im not sure about veterancy but I think the answer is yes
i dont believe so, at least not deep water
amphibious tanks cant attack at all while submerged
thanks for the comment :)
The Sharpshooters tab/commands include what looks like a toggle for "visible" And presumably "cloaked". The unit tooltip also mentions "cloak". I imagine it works like the commander's cloak and consumes energy
Why didn't you mention this? Does it not work yet because I've never noticed anyone using the cloak for it
ahh that's a really good note, it just slipped my mind! I actually have a video scheduled where this comes into play but long story short yes its exactly like the commander cloak where it takes a bit of energy standing still and a little more when cloaked but its incredibly powerful because you can move cloaked sharpshooters into enemy lines and RAVAGE their production with a few shots seemingly from nowhere. beware though that firing does drop its cloak for a few seconds!
Great work
thank you :)
Hey, I just wondered if you can share these save files?
I wanted to put my hands on some of these units and compare stats in game if possible.
Ohh that's an interesting idea. I can mess around with that and see what I can get working, thanks for the suggestion
Port bow is to the left, starbord is right
ahh my apologies, my days playing sea of thieves were long ago haha XD
@@BrightWorksTV good video
Did I see that the spybot can also reclaim? - never noticed that while playing
Great video there are so many different units and some have different attacks loved seeing them all
very nice
Can the air transports pick up enemy units? IIRC in TA picking up an enemy unit killed it. You could snipe a commander that way if they weren't paying attention.
yes they can grab enemy units but oddly enough it doesnt kill it so you have to take it somewhere your nano turrets can pick it apart or something lol
We can tell which units you use normally from the autohotkeys :). No love for AA bot
Hahaha you got me XD
Was there at one point a cannon that could produce and launch bots? I also vaguely remember an Armada super heavy bomber.
Hahaha welllll yes and no lol. There's an experimental structure called the pawn-cannon that charges then launches pawns across the map like a LRPC it's not "standard" though. For the experimental scavenger faction there's an epic stormbringer which is probably the super heavy bomber you're thinking of. Again not standard... But absolutely AWESOME
@@BrightWorksTV thanks for the validation that I am not crazy. About six months ago I played a game and it seemed like there were a few new units, the ones I mentioned were the ones that stuck out to me. I know at that time I was playing around with the advanced settings and for the life of me couldn't duplicate what I did. I was searching last night for any reference to these units and came up blank do you know of any place that lists all of these units? Also what a great game, I got into computers by playing TA, just so awesome. Just need the TA soundtrack overlay.🤓
as someone who got here from zero-k, it's interesting to see the unit overlap. aside from the shared models, it's also clear that some units were kept from back before the two games diverged so they exist in some form in both games. i haven't played total annihilation, though, so i wonder how much of it is total annihilation legacy and how much is balanced annihilation innovation from before ZK and BAR were separate projects
ohh interesting, I've never seen zero-k gameplay but I know some of the folks on BAR that have been around those games as well often refer to some of the units by their old names. I actually picked up that bad habit accidentally just from talking with them so much hence when I reference mortys, pyros, peewees etc haha
@@BrightWorksTV that happens in zero-k, too. i picked up some old unit names from before i even played the game just because older players still use them
anyway, as for zk and byar unit parallels i noticed:
some units are super close mechanically: byar's jaguar is clearly equivalent to zk's blitz which used to be called panther which explains the jaguar name, though i'm pretty sure that one originated in total annihilation itself. same with zk's flea which was also called flea in total annihilation and byar calls it tick. byar's starlight feels very similar to zk's lance to me - idk if there's an equivalent in total annihilation or this was only introduced in balanced annihilation. oh, both games also have a recluse which works pretty much the same way in both games, just with a different model
but you'll also notice some similarities in models rather than unit stats and mechanics - the liche and a lot of cortex bot models also exist in zero-k, though with different textures. and some of the energy infrastructures and static weapons are clearly based on total annihilation designs
you made beyond all reason look pretty interesting i have to admit. maybe i'll check it out some day, though zero-k seems more like my cup of tea at the moment, with a few important game design differences making my preference skew a bit towards zero-k. byar definitely seems like the game to try if i feel like playing something other than zero-k though
By "Thesaurus" I thought you meant you would be telling us alternate community-made meme names for each bot.
I am both pleasantly surprised and deeply disappointed.
hahaha this isnt a bad idea might actually have to make something like that sometime XD
I feel like the biggest failing of TA, and many of its derivatives to include 0Kelvin,and BAR, and Rusted Warfare, from a design standpoint is simply having too many units, with not nearly enough differentiation in capability. Supreme commanders biggest improvement was clearly differentiating unit roles.
I think its a blessing and a curse. on one hand it definitely is a lot to learn and tons of counters to figure out, but on the other hand I'm the kind of person that likes that sort of insane depth so I find it addicting haha
Yeah, I don't know why the game needs both bots and vehicles instead of just "land units" and then there are like 6 different artillery options within a single tech tier.
Cool video.
Its a shame we dont get a visual demonstration vs just talking about it, gets boring quick.
Yeah after so many months I've thought about remastering this to keep it updated with the current game. That'll have to be something I consider going into the next one, especially now that my editing skills have somewhat improved XD
👌
would like to see the seaplanes too
They're so special they got their own video ;)
>The Armada Unit Thesaurus
>"Uh I know we didn't cover seaplanes, but uh that was intentional because they're specialized"
???
why do you think I'm watching a 2 hour video if not because I wanted the nitty gritty details
hahaha fair point but counter argument; I have a seaplanes video out too ;)
Your mic is incredibly quiet
Yeah sorry about that, be warned that it's fixed in newer content
+1
Cortex is better. All the noobs play Armada
hahaha we'll have to agree to disagree B)