I think it is also important to remember that many bands tune lower to accomodate the vocal ranges of their singers. I'm not a particularly gifted bass-baritone range singer, and I have trouble singing heavy stuff above C Standard Tuning. It's not always about tuning lower to "sound heavier". I think it just works out that way with the way some folks sing. I think B Standard is about as low as I want to go to maintain a bit a clarity. It really does get too muddy for be below that.
@@NicolasPerrault I definately think that tuning low does add to heaviness, but there is a point of diminishing returns. I think your video points that out very well. I sing in the same range as you, maybe a hair higher. LOL! I like your stuff man. I'm just starting to listen in Spotify
C and B sound great. A is the lowest reasonably tuning for this type of riffing IMO. Below that it's a mud and all the dynamics are lost. It's pretty much as you said before experiment. On the other hand these riffs gained a lot of character when tuned down just 2 steps (or even 1 step) Your facial expression confirms this ;)
I agree. A is the lowest sensible tuning (when you're not just playing single notes). I was super surprised by how epic downtuned tremolo picking sounds....just downright epic
Thanks for the great videos! Where are you from in Germany? I lived in Weisbaden/Mainz area from 2001-2003 in the US Military. I lived off base in a flat in Neuhof (Taunusstein) on Carl-Benz Strasse. :D I still remember that. I sure do miss my Getränkemarkt still! LOL! I traveled to quite a few towns and cities while I was there.
I love it, all the way until you get to about G. Then, it kind of starts sounding muddy. Even on my 8. I dont really down tune it too far. For the sake of the top strings. If you look up "Internal Darkness by shrine of Malice" Theres a guitar cover on that song and it's literally just in standard tuning. Except for the top two strings. The 7th is in A and the 8th string is in E. Sounds brutal as shit. I almost think it is a matter of preference, feel, and a few other things. But, as far as down tuning to sound heavy. I think it's just a matter of how you utilize your instrument. Each tuning definitely does add its own spice to the mix though.
@@NicolasPerrault I totally get that. Low tuned 6 strings are bad ass. I do most of my playing on an 8 string. But, weirdly I barely even touch the top strings while playing. I think I almost just like the feel of them more. The size of the fret board in general. I like to play more melodic, harmonic soloy stuff. I feel cured. Everytime I try to groove like you, it sounds like horse shit. Lol.
I think it is also important to remember that many bands tune lower to accomodate the vocal ranges of their singers. I'm not a particularly gifted bass-baritone range singer, and I have trouble singing heavy stuff above C Standard Tuning. It's not always about tuning lower to "sound heavier". I think it just works out that way with the way some folks sing. I think B Standard is about as low as I want to go to maintain a bit a clarity. It really does get too muddy for be below that.
That's definitely a good point. I'm just tackling myths and preconceptions about the term heavy and trying to analyze how and where they intersect.
@@NicolasPerrault I definately think that tuning low does add to heaviness, but there is a point of diminishing returns. I think your video points that out very well. I sing in the same range as you, maybe a hair higher. LOL! I like your stuff man. I'm just starting to listen in Spotify
@@benstokes7964 thanks mate!
C and B sound great. A is the lowest reasonably tuning for this type of riffing IMO. Below that it's a mud and all the dynamics are lost. It's pretty much as you said before experiment. On the other hand these riffs gained a lot of character when tuned down just 2 steps (or even 1 step) Your facial expression confirms this ;)
I agree. A is the lowest sensible tuning (when you're not just playing single notes). I was super surprised by how epic downtuned tremolo picking sounds....just downright epic
D standard sounds like immortal
I think it started getting too muddy for the tremolo parts below C standard. The rest of the riff sounded fine down to A.
Really? I quite liked the low tremolo parts personally.
Thanks for the great videos! Where are you from in Germany? I lived in Weisbaden/Mainz area from 2001-2003 in the US Military. I lived off base in a flat in Neuhof (Taunusstein) on Carl-Benz Strasse. :D I still remember that. I sure do miss my Getränkemarkt still! LOL! I traveled to quite a few towns and cities while I was there.
Nice one! I live close to Kaiserslautern near Ramstein Air Base in a small town called Zweibrücken.
I love it, all the way until you get to about G. Then, it kind of starts sounding muddy.
Even on my 8. I dont really down tune it too far. For the sake of the top strings.
If you look up "Internal Darkness by shrine of Malice"
Theres a guitar cover on that song and it's literally just in standard tuning. Except for the top two strings.
The 7th is in A and the 8th string is in E.
Sounds brutal as shit. I almost think it is a matter of preference, feel, and a few other things.
But, as far as down tuning to sound heavy. I think it's just a matter of how you utilize your instrument.
Each tuning definitely does add its own spice to the mix though.
I have an 8 string that I rarely play bc I really haven't found a good use for it yet. Somehow low-tuned 6 strings are just more my vibe, I guess.
@@NicolasPerrault I totally get that. Low tuned 6 strings are bad ass.
I do most of my playing on an 8 string. But, weirdly I barely even touch the top strings while playing. I think I almost just like the feel of them more. The size of the fret board in general.
I like to play more melodic, harmonic soloy stuff.
I feel cured. Everytime I try to groove like you, it sounds like horse shit. Lol.
how high can we go??
that black metal riff was sick though
Ooohh... that's an interesting question. I mean you could string the guitar with the higher strings from a 12string set..🤔