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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • I hope you can see this from my point of view. No hard feelings to anyone at my Porsche dealership, but this had to be said...
    #992PorscheGT3RS #Porsche #PorscheGT
    00:00 - 01:00 Back Story
    01:01 - 02:14 First Thoughts
    02:15 - 05:56 Second Reason
    05:57 - 07:58 Experiences
    07:59 - 11:21 Final Thoughts
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Комментарии • 219

  • @wam_barn
    @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +23

    What do you guys think about this subject? 🤔

    • @ebz6174
      @ebz6174 5 месяцев назад +9

      Definitely the right decision

    • @Oha.publishing
      @Oha.publishing 5 месяцев назад +8

      I'd do the same mate

    • @Oha.publishing
      @Oha.publishing 5 месяцев назад +8

      I think anyone in that position would do the same tbh

    • @jensi.1
      @jensi.1 5 месяцев назад +6

      I would definitely to the same as wel

    • @shadow.daddy33
      @shadow.daddy33 5 месяцев назад +4

      No one leaves money like that on the table. Good on ya

  • @Qlimaxqt
    @Qlimaxqt 5 месяцев назад +45

    I respect your principles. The less people that play the game, the more likely they are to get rid of these under handed business practises.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +7

      Thank you, I hope it goes back to some normality. It would be nice to be able to purchase a new GT car from Porsche, regardless of prior history.

    • @brooksjtony
      @brooksjtony 5 месяцев назад +2

      But the 2RS and the 918 wasn’t bought to get on the ‘special’ list. Yet you got on the ‘special’ list, and YOU played the game, by selling the 3RS for £100k over…… its a shame, as other people would love the opportunity to spec, and buy new, and enjoy?

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 5 месяцев назад

      The whole reason they pull this shit is because they are countermeasures to help screen out more people due to insane demand. Simple as that. It won’t end until the demand goes down.

  • @pauln0371
    @pauln0371 5 месяцев назад +34

    A friend of mine and a 918 owner. Spent a small fortune on various cars inc a Macan, Cayenne, a 991.2Turbo S Cab and he also lent our local dealer his 918 as a showroom display car for over a year to get an Allocation for a GT2RS. Guess what they sold his allocation to another customer who spent more money on aload of stuff that he didnt want. Needless to say he hasn't dealt with them since and never will in the future...He is of the same mind of just paying overs and getting a GT product as a low mileage nearly new car...

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +2

      It’s a ridiculous game they encourage you to play to get the allocation spots. What a kind gent allowing them to use the car for the allocation! It’s a shame, but at least he got out and doesn’t have to deal with them anymore who obviously didn’t appreciate him!! It just makes more sense now to pay the overs on the GT cars without having to buy 2-3 Taycans to lose the same, if not more money as it would be buying the cars over! Thanks for that insight, it’s a shame to see it happening so often 😢

    • @neillgowans4350
      @neillgowans4350 5 месяцев назад

      If I was fortunate enough to be in friends position I would be in that dealership asking for ridiculous discounts when the market really drops off.

  • @adrianmeredith6818
    @adrianmeredith6818 5 месяцев назад +21

    Good point and a good decision..
    Sticking the V up to Porsche uk and it's terrible under handed policy...
    Mark Mccan discovered the exact same thing....

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you, and yeah a lot of people are starting to get really fed up 🥲

  • @ebz6174
    @ebz6174 5 месяцев назад +14

    I'd do the same tbf

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I think most people would, getting boring is the “Porsche Game” from dealerships

  • @sel.b
    @sel.b 5 месяцев назад +15

    wise decision and sound reasoning, still respectful. can't fault you ... anyone with business sense would do the same!!!

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Very true!

  • @sel.b
    @sel.b 5 месяцев назад +15

    Makes absolute sense tbf

  • @steviepaton2899
    @steviepaton2899 5 месяцев назад +9

    Good on you mate your the customer and if there not any customers there be no sales

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you mate 🙏🏻

  • @Nicholasvid
    @Nicholasvid 5 месяцев назад +13

    I respect the honesty. I'd love to know how much insurance cost on your cars. Also a bit of a background on yourself 🙌

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! I’m sure at some point we’ll go through everything 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @jaf65
    @jaf65 5 месяцев назад +11

    100% right decision. Not a problem I will ever have but the way they keep customers buying stuff they dont want or need is ridiculous. Plenty of other amazing cars in the collection, drive them and wait a few months then use the profit to get another if you feel the need.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! I hope some changes are made at Porsche … it seemed the right decision! Appreciate the comment 😊🙏🏻

  • @macsays2834
    @macsays2834 5 месяцев назад +6

    I’d do exactly the same!
    Porsche are covering their losses on failed models like the Taycan, they won’t take the hit, when they can pass it to loyal customers.. it’s a bit Ferrarish, and let’s be honest, they’re not Ferrari

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I’m glad you agree. Being made to buy two Taycans for an RS Spyder allocation just proves the point. Yeah it seems some Porsche dealerships have taken on the Ferrari model of the special lists 🤔

  • @ImranKhan-iq2gf
    @ImranKhan-iq2gf 5 месяцев назад +3

    fair play to you , absolutely nothing wrong with flipping if you are in a position to do so.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @ebz6174
    @ebz6174 5 месяцев назад +13

    Respect to you mate, sound business decision.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @abrasp
    @abrasp 5 месяцев назад +13

    I agree with your decision

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @georgeholliday3808
    @georgeholliday3808 5 месяцев назад +15

    I think it was a wise decision, at the end of the day you’re clearly a successful person and decisions like this are why - it’s a calculated decision! I was looking forward to the GT3RS content but to be honest it seems every other car RUclips has one anyway 😂 my question is what cars coming next with that sweet profit you’ve made 👀? Would like to see you review the new Range Rover SV to hear your thoughts 👍🏼

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks George, I really appreciate that. Don’t worry, we’ll have GT3 content coming in the future, as I say it’s not off the cards and it would be nice to add one back into the collection at some point in the future. I’m being “sensible” for a little while… we’ll see how long that lasts. As for comments on the RR SV situation, I’m sure it wouldn’t be a very family friendly reply for RUclips 🤣👏🏼

    • @georgeholliday3808
      @georgeholliday3808 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@wam_barn I think it’s definitely a time to be sensible - car prices I believe have reached there peak and will probably be on a downturn from here on out.. also have to consider cash in the bank at the moment is doing well with the interest rates on offer. So probably best to sit tight and reap the awards in a year or so 😎

  • @LongFinger021
    @LongFinger021 5 месяцев назад +7

    They are trying to play the Rolex game. The inflated price bubble will burst like watches. Then it’ll all be back at list. Good on you for not playing the game

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      It certainly seems so, like Ferrari! Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @TheGreekCarGeek
    @TheGreekCarGeek 5 месяцев назад +7

    It’s worse in the US as far as I can tell. We have ADMs (Adjusted Dealer Markups), plus the watch, plus Euro delivery (which gives the dealership a TurboS or GT3RS allocation), PPF, etc etc… and that’s IF you’re the best customer over the years. That’s how most dealers treat their BEST customers lol. I only know from my journey to get an S/T, but the average (over 110 dealerships I called) was $300K over sticker 😮

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh really!? I’ve seen a couple stories from the US but that’s insane. Over 300k is ridiculous, I’d only seen the example petfred posted on Instagram about his 992 experience, that was unbelievable. Good luck with the S/T search and hopefully you’re not paying ridiculous overs! 🙏🏻

    • @TheGreekCarGeek
      @TheGreekCarGeek 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@wam_barn thanks! I was able to find just one dealer out of 110 that cared more about the fact that I was an enthusiast and would drive the S/T than getting the absolute most $$ for it. I’ve only bought one Porsche, so I had no dealer relationships and I don’t have unlimited mean$, but the S/T is my absolute dream car, so I’m beyond excited 😆

  • @hansahlborg
    @hansahlborg 5 месяцев назад +3

    you are doing the correct thing, it is a shame to see how some brands try to manipulate in a market... I would never play that game!

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for that, and yes it’s such a shame it’s gone this way 😢

  • @xpertgaming8043
    @xpertgaming8043 5 месяцев назад +15

    Glad you sold it mate , nice car but pretty overrated and is definitely gonna be going less than retail in a couple months .Love your videos , cheers mate

    • @BondTheOGYT
      @BondTheOGYT 5 месяцев назад +1

      Already is less than retail few weeks ago

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for the nice response. We’re glad you see our point of view, cheers mate 😊

    • @brooksjtony
      @brooksjtony 5 месяцев назад +1

      Less than retail in a couple of weeks 😂😂😂😂

  • @chrisstaley176
    @chrisstaley176 5 месяцев назад +6

    Completely agree. Have heard they don't 'allow'/ want you to sell privately (as you have) but you can sell it back to the dealership who then bank the overs when they sell it- the hypocisy!
    Crazy and it's your money. Great decision.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah this would’ve had to have gone back for the price I’d bought it for, this or the 918 if I wanted the 2RS. I just didn’t find it fair anymore, and was willing to take the risk with this 3RS. Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @sallycarrera6319
    @sallycarrera6319 5 месяцев назад +5

    Brilliant perspective guys. One shouldn't have to jump through hoops to buy any car. Also, If you don't want the watch I'll have it when I bring 'Big Blue' back!😂 MikeGts....

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Cheers Mike, definitely not. 😆👏🏼

  • @Oha.publishing
    @Oha.publishing 5 месяцев назад +8

    Definitely a sensible decision, seems like the over all company policy isnt well thought out.. why would any reasonable business person not take the opportunity to make money?🤷‍♂️

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, it seems these decisions come from much higher up with these new “Ferrari” style policies. Very strange, and exactly… you’d never jeopardise the opportunity! 🤔

  • @lordlloydbass
    @lordlloydbass 5 месяцев назад +12

    Definitely the right decision

  • @MM-xr6tz
    @MM-xr6tz 5 месяцев назад +3

    Genius from the team at the Pork Sausage factory in Stuttgart, they masterminded a game that silly people were desperate to play along. I think it was brilliant, a true masterpiece in sales mind Jedi.
    Folk fought like cats and dogs to get in on 'The list' They had to have one! So they could show it off to the other silly people at a Supercarsausage event. Then after all that pain they'd mostly specify it in GT silver as not to effect resale when they flipped to buy the next top sausage from the factory. 😂

  • @td8552
    @td8552 5 месяцев назад +4

    Hey there.
    I´m from Germany and up until the 991.2 GT3RS you could go in there and buy one without a history. The only car you couldn´t was a GT2RS 991.
    Now with the 992 gen. it´s the same like in the UK, sadly.
    Have a great day🙂

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Hey! Oh really, that’s very interesting to know. It seems that other people who have commented on this topic have said it started around a similar time. It’s a shame it’s taken this turn and gone down that route since the 991.2 🥲 You too!

    • @td8552
      @td8552 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn Yeah i asked a Porsche dealership here, actually multiple ones and all said you need a history with Porsche to even get a GT3.
      Well, since 911s are spec-wise very similar and don´t have too much variety like a Ferrari or Lamborghini it´s really the best to buy them used like you do.
      Thank you🙂

  • @jonmercer8390
    @jonmercer8390 5 месяцев назад +3

    I've had a few Porsche's and currently have a 2nd hand GT car, I want a new one but again because of my buying history (not using the same OPC) I'm never going to get an allocation seemingly, that's certainly the message after contacting most UK dealers recently. It seems the only way is to pay overs, but I can have the car now and not have to buy 6-7-8 cars and lose more than the overs to get an allocation (which may not turn into a build slot). It's extremely frustrating for me as the Porsche's I've owned have all come through the OPC network and not specialists.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s such a shame, even with you owning a GT Porsche you’re unable to be on the list. Not sure how they’ll get out of this situation, maybe in too deep? Sometimes it seems better to pay the overs on the cars without having to purchase all the different extras. Yeah, that must be very infuriating for you, especially going through OPC’s 😖

  • @davidpickard9393
    @davidpickard9393 5 месяцев назад +5

    Years ago I noticed that you could not spec a basic car without options.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, options are heavily pushed. But saying that, you wouldn’t want basic options on your GT car I suppose. Although it does solely depend on your budget at the end of that day and if you’re in a position to. You never want to be pushed though!

  • @user-zb1jl1en2h
    @user-zb1jl1en2h 5 месяцев назад +2

    100% right decision to sell! It is little bit the same here in Sweden with ”special” Porsches like GT3 RS or GT4 RS. You need to have bought at least one brand new Porsche before too have a chance of an alication. My dream car is a Porsche, any Porsche, it doesnt matter! 😂 Keep up the good work👍

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Oh really, it seems a lot more dealerships across the world are taking on these similar policies for buying new GT cars 🤔

  • @jensi.1
    @jensi.1 5 месяцев назад +8

    Wise decision 💯

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Appreciate that🙏🏻

  • @jdhillon787
    @jdhillon787 5 месяцев назад +4

    Totally respect your decision. I’ve bought a Boxster GTS 4.0 and a 992 T, and my sales rep told me I still have no chance of getting a GT3. If I trade in a car for a significant loss and buy an EV I may have a chance. But now with GT3’s selling only slightly more than MSRP in Canada, I’d rather buy used. I don’t want to play this game anymore.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you! It’s crazy isn’t it, even the GT3’s were difficult to get a hold of, but now if you see the prices they’ve dropped (here in the UK too) close to around MSRP… Makes sense buying used for sure. Unless you wanted to play the game and get your own spec, but aside from that it’s not worth it 😢

  • @matty555S
    @matty555S 5 месяцев назад +4

    Need to finish video - one min and for some reason…… I thought you’d sell! Even when you collected. Just didn’t seem to ya know. Love it!

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      It was always in the back of my mind, but even when I’d taken delivery I didn’t want it to go but it just felt like the right decision at the time. They’re an incredible car and I’d love to add one into the collection again in the future, I just didn’t love it at this moment in time haha 🙏🏻

  • @1MD4N13L
    @1MD4N13L 5 месяцев назад +3

    Your reasons are very good but hey atleast you still have the GT2RS the special one that always rise up. Big respect for you keeping it :D

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      I appreciate that, thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @Marc-qp4br
    @Marc-qp4br 5 месяцев назад +8

    100% agree

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @albundy5992
    @albundy5992 5 месяцев назад +6

    Top man. Well done on getting out of the Porsche game. And well done on ot playing the RUclips game: I appreciate the brutal honesty of channels like this.
    I love Porsches, too. My sons favourite car is a 918 and his favourite colour is orange! ❤

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for your positive feedback! Was on the fence about releasing it but I found a lot of people had absolutely no idea that this was going on. So it’s nice to finally be able to show to others. I think when we both started this channel we wanted it to be as open and as honest as possible and not be bias towards anything!
      Well you’ve certainly done well in finding two of his favourite things, hopefully you’re able to come along to an event and see the car for yourselves at some point 🙏🏻😊

    • @albundy5992
      @albundy5992 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn we will certainly try! I'll make it a surprise for him ❤️

  • @Taylor40667
    @Taylor40667 5 месяцев назад +5

    I thought the limitation of special editions to each dealership was because of limited supply i.e 2 per dealership.
    So how can France for e.g not have any policy? If 17 people want one they cant give them 17?

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Dealers have allocations and can give to specific clients but they prioritise. As for other countries, mainly Europe, it’s dependant on the dealerships allocation. Not necessarily say 17 people want the car and all 17 will get them. It’s more like if you go in at the right time and they have an allocation and you’re able to secure it, rather than being on a special list.

    • @brooksjtony
      @brooksjtony 5 месяцев назад

      Yeh not anyone can walk in a dealership, allocations are scarce

  • @brooksjtony
    @brooksjtony 5 месяцев назад +4

    Yes, use my 3RS on track! Not sure it’ll stay with the 2RS MR though

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a plan… when we get the track organised we’ll get it sorted 😎

  • @bobfromcalgary8453
    @bobfromcalgary8453 5 месяцев назад +4

    In Canada a 2023 is still going for 585 with 5000 kms

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Oh really? 😱

    • @brianhimmelman420
      @brianhimmelman420 5 месяцев назад

      according to RUclipsr’s they will all be half price in a year lol

    • @bobfromcalgary8453
      @bobfromcalgary8453 5 месяцев назад

      @brianhimmelman420 Also, according to RUclips. That Yellowstone National Park is about to blow, so it doesn't matter what's the price is gonna be in a year. Lmao. I'm not scared. You are.

  • @mrkmcknz
    @mrkmcknz 5 месяцев назад +3

    People were willing to play the game post-COVID when everything in the game was moving above retail. This is why Taycans are now worth less than a discovery.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah definitely! It’s shocking the drops on the Taycans 😬

  • @Samuel-il8jj
    @Samuel-il8jj 5 месяцев назад +4

    Well done

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @CRA677
    @CRA677 5 месяцев назад +2

    I'm experiencing the same thing, but on the other side of the pond. After waiting 12 months, the dealer "granted" me a 718 allocation, but would only do so if I bought their $5000USD nonsense add-ons (PPF, GPS tracking security, etc.). It's basically an ADM in disguise as PNA (Porsche North America) allegedly frowns heavily upon dealer markups above MSRP.
    This will be my 4th Porsche but, like you, the last one I buy from a dealer.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Oh really, it seems that more and more people from across the world are having similar issues. It’s crazy to hear it’s not just the UK! Crazy you’re on your 4th Porsche but still being made to purchase silly add-ons. It’s a shame really it’s going that way😕

  • @Beezyisbroke
    @Beezyisbroke 5 месяцев назад +1

    The more publicity about Porsche dealers screwing people over the sooner the madness ends, good on you for publicizing the games these dealerships are playing.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I do hope so!

  • @BiragovDetailing
    @BiragovDetailing 5 месяцев назад +2

    Smart move by selling it while it’s high price and buy it when precise settles down. The only drawback is when you buy it new you can spec it uniquely with options you like, maybe have PTS color etc. It will be hard to found same spec again. I personally like car even more when it’s build the way I want. But $100 grand is 100 grand lol

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      It made complete sense in my opinion. Yeah that sure, although for me it was always going to be launch spec as it was a brilliant spec, and I think a lot of people agreed as I’d seen a lot of launch spec’s coming out (I know it wasn’t the exact launch spec colour but it’s a similar scheme haha). Yeah, speccing myself is always fun and you can customise to your own liking, but then again people won’t be speccing these cars bad in any way I suppose… so that’s a plus haha!

  • @dbobertzz
    @dbobertzz 5 месяцев назад +3

    Man im absolutely loving your guys channel. Super interesting content. To my understanding this isn't a big issue here in Australia, not yet at least. I do think it's egregious though and i don't disagree with your decision at all

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! We really appreciate that, very kind of you to say 🙏🏻 Oh really, I’ve only seen one person say they’ve experienced similar in Australia, so hopefully it’s not all over. I’m glad you support the decision 😊🙏🏻

    • @dbobertzz
      @dbobertzz 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn My pleasure, feels like these are the video embodiment of hanging out with your mates haha. Oh interesting, maybe it's a bigger issue over east.

  • @ABrown-dp3gv
    @ABrown-dp3gv 5 месяцев назад +2

    Tom, great to see that you've 'broken the chain' of the Porsche dealerships in the UK squeezing money out of their customers. They are really screwing their best customers here. Watches and the huge amount of previous 'spend' just to perhaps get an allocation ! I cannot believe more customers don't just tell them - no more !! A sensible business decision too. Of course it makes sense to sell it now and YOU get some gain from it.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  4 месяца назад

      It was about time we did as it was getting ridiculous! Yep, agreed, was a good time for it to go… I do miss it thought😂

  • @Ben_conduit
    @Ben_conduit 5 месяцев назад +2

    Yeh, I’m never going to be pushed around by dealers saying ‘you have to buy this, you have to buy that’ I will buy what I want, when I want it 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣🤣

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +2

      You shouldn’t have to feel pressured in any way 😄

  • @---ov5sx
    @---ov5sx 5 месяцев назад +3

    Watches? Seriously? Ha ha ha! Right decision to stick it to them! :)

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yep, a £10,000 watch specc’d to the car. So even if you want to resell it has to be to someone who wants an exact spec 🤣😅

  • @djbrad1000
    @djbrad1000 5 месяцев назад +2

    You can always change the spec as well...
    Colour (raps) body kits exhaust etc....

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Very true!

  • @JuanOne11
    @JuanOne11 5 месяцев назад +2

    I remember Shmee150 and TheCarGuys were the first guys to say something about this Porsche dealership issue in the UK.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah I’d seen their videos! Just hope something gets sorted soon🙏🏻

  • @duttyvegan
    @duttyvegan 5 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with your values also 👊🏾

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @jonathanhayes4873
    @jonathanhayes4873 5 месяцев назад +4

    Job well done. How did Matt Watson get a GT3 RS allocation? Was it not his first new Porsche from a dealer? Just curious.

    • @alexluke84
      @alexluke84 5 месяцев назад

      Mat is big in car industry as an car review top dog and influencer

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you and when it comes to Mat, I’m not too sure! I think he mentioned in a video? 🤔

  • @bigladxx6819
    @bigladxx6819 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good call, you're only making back a fraction of the money you have lost unnecessarily to them through their game. This is why it looks like Porsche as a company, along with other manufacturers, are taking back control of sales directly, by moving online and changing the Dealership model.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah that’s true, and it seems that way 🤔

  • @RennSportJunkie
    @RennSportJunkie 5 месяцев назад +1

    You made the right decision. You didn't get to where you are by making crap financial decisions so keep doing what you do.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for that 🙏🏻🤝🏼

  • @Davejohnpeel
    @Davejohnpeel 5 месяцев назад +3

    Good decision.. More people are exposing porsche for their scams.. Time for people to boycott them till they clean up their act from top to bottom

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      I hope it becomes fair again at Porsche! 🙏🏻

    • @Davejohnpeel
      @Davejohnpeel 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn me too, their brand going down hill now their dirty secret is being exposed by loyal porsche customers

  • @leewilliams9158
    @leewilliams9158 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t blame you, you spent enough with them, so why not Time, people realise and don’t play the game no more 👍

  • @dcDOC19
    @dcDOC19 5 месяцев назад +2

    Question, Since you flipped the GT3 RS so quickly wouldn't that put your name on the Porsche "blacklist"? P.S. I support your decision.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yes it would haha, unfortunately 🥲 and thank you!

  • @villaman4818
    @villaman4818 5 месяцев назад +1

    Well said sir

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @onlyrs8111
    @onlyrs8111 5 месяцев назад +1

    The US is about the same. You either pay the dealer several K over to get the allocation or have to have a history or car they want to screw you on trade. Even then you may not get it at MSRP. They have been more creative trying to get people to lease all the Taycans sitting due to the EV mandates. If you take 1 or more high end spec Taycan you might get a allocation. But Taycans lose half their value as soon as you lose the dealer.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Oh really, paying over even with an allocation is insane!! Yeah Taycans just seem to be a way to lose money, it’s like buying a loss😕 That’s crazy to see it’s worse in the US!

  • @chilliwilli4971
    @chilliwilli4971 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love your 918 color...is that Lava Orange or Gulf Orange? Or? Stateside, in my region, you get on lists for potential allocation in the future. This is for regular 992 and 718 models. GT cars are considered unobtainium-by me,anyway. Then, if SA calls, you can get one with a graduated ADM amount; depending on base, S, or GTS. Also European delivery can be offered up by dealer. Dealer gets an extra allocation when an existing customer selects Euro delivery. People outside of Porsche world cannot conceive of the hoops we jump through to get our cars. Hoops exist at every level of Porsche sports cars, not just GT product levels.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you. It’s actually just a gloss orange wrap haha! It’s insane to hear about the huge markup on the delivery too😭 It just seems impossible for people to obtain these Porsches without spending millions unfortunately! It’s a shame even though I’ve been buying Porsches I doubt I’m on their list anymore after selling this one😬

  • @tronfromdacityyy6889
    @tronfromdacityyy6889 5 месяцев назад +2

    I agree with the decision but, being a car guy and a fan of Porsche didn't you know all of this when you decided to buy the car ?

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you and I was only aware once I’d started purchasing Porsche’s, or did you mean purchasing this 3RS?

  • @jerryeriksson1687
    @jerryeriksson1687 5 месяцев назад +1

    Didnt have that problem when buying a McLaren. Sure its a younger company trying to attract rich people to buy its cars, but then compare a 720S with most Porsches and MCL wipes the floor with them (yes at a higher base cost - check out second hand ones which are so cheap compared to an incredible car you get with F1 tech!)
    my 2 cents - good on ya for selling the GT3 RS and pocketing some change

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s not been the same with Lamborghini, the Revuelto was offered without having to buy any “entry” versions so it may just be Porsche going down the Ferrari route. It can go towards another car haha!

    • @jerryeriksson1687
      @jerryeriksson1687 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn how about when you bought the Koenigsegg? Simple or quite a process?

  • @carracing3220
    @carracing3220 5 месяцев назад +1

    Its your car, you can do whatever you want. Nobody businesss.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Great reasoning 🙏🏻

  • @iananderson5357
    @iananderson5357 5 месяцев назад +2

    With you 💯 Mark Mc Cann has been running a similar topic on his channel and it’s soooooo wrong it shouldn’t be allowed it’s some bull 💩.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I get that Porsche need to prioritise special and loyal customers, but it shouldn’t be as strict as the way it is and has been going. That’s for sure! 👏🏼

    • @iananderson5357
      @iananderson5357 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn you could also argue that people like yourself that have brought a lot of cars if anything should get preferential treatment not be told that they have to buy models they don’t want and it’s wrong that if I won the lottery tomorrow I couldn’t go and order the car of my dreams don’t know where Porsche and Ferrari get off thinking they can treat people like this rant over. 😂

  • @cfdProptrader
    @cfdProptrader 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Guys, can I buy GT3 in Netherland and bring it over UK ? Thank you guys

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      I’d presume so? 😲

  • @alexluke84
    @alexluke84 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nect GT2 RS will be the sickest thing on earth...hypercar capabilities...hypercar beating on track

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I’m really looking forward to it!

  • @KIckAssPinball
    @KIckAssPinball 5 месяцев назад +1

    It's the same here in the states!!

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      It’s scary hearing more and more stories!!

  • @Biter1975
    @Biter1975 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was looking at a second hand Taycan GTS, but the scamming of people has really put be off being associated with the brand.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      They’re an amazing brand for their incredible cars, so don’t be out off by the cars on the basis of some dealerships! My favourite brand is Porsche, it’s just a shame that it’s gone this route 😢

  • @Thats_Awesome
    @Thats_Awesome 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would they let you buy a new RS after you sold this one? They have it in contract that you cant sell this right?

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Probably not, this sale would’ve jeopardised the relationship unfortunately. There’s no contract for sales

    • @Thats_Awesome
      @Thats_Awesome 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn ive heard that For New GT3RS you would have to sign a contract saying that you wont be able to sell it for a year after purchase because people just buy them and resell them immediately for profit. I think this is only in the US

  • @joramalho2939
    @joramalho2939 5 месяцев назад +1

    It isn't only Porsche, other popular makes are also steeling from the punter.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      That’s very true

  • @boyztoyz7054
    @boyztoyz7054 5 месяцев назад +2

    I dont know why on earth people play the game. Just let other people blow hundreds of thousands of pounds/dollars/euros on possibly getting their allocation and buy it slightly used a year after first deliveries start.
    As Mark McCann found out, you potentially lose more on depreciation on the crap you didnt want but had to buy than the profit you can make flipping the GT.
    Great cars but just not worth bending over backwards for. It's the dealer that should be doing that for you. I dread to think how big a fleet of cars people are expected to have bought to get an S?T allocation. Whatever it is, it wasnt worth it, no matter how good the car is.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  4 месяца назад

      Yeah agreed, I’ve never bought into it by purchasing unnecessary cars to get an allocation, it was always buying the RS’ (what I actually wanted). Yeah I’ve heard a few stories about the S/T… not been great for people 😬😬

  • @robhardy6356
    @robhardy6356 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ever wondered why most OPCs have so much unwanted Taycan stock…

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Very true… makes you think 😲😲

  • @ZondaF355
    @ZondaF355 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love the insight and yes I was aware of these practices and 100% agree with your choice to do this. The 3RS will br at sticker in a year or so and its a good car but not great enough to risk the 100k when you already have several great P cars to enjoy in the meantime. I think you have made a very logical decision taking emotion out of the equation. Having said that I think you should try a Ferrari F355 manual. That car with a proper full system is very very special and if taken care of are really good cars that make awesome street cars. Love the vids guys!

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I think it was a good time to sell with the current market, and I’d love to add one back when the time is right for me. I think I’m going to take a break from Ferrari for a short while haha! Thanks for the kind comment we really appreciate it😊🙏🏻

  • @Visakh_S_Nair
    @Visakh_S_Nair 5 месяцев назад +1

    👍

  • @michaelleaver1766
    @michaelleaver1766 5 месяцев назад +1

    The US and UK dealers will learn the hard way if more people take your tack as well.
    Unfortunately all the time people play their game,they will continue taking advantage......

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      It seems after posting more and more US customers have similar stories about this situation 🙁

    • @michaelleaver1766
      @michaelleaver1766 5 месяцев назад

      @wam_barn I'm in the UK but know that dealers in the US are ruthless if it means they can line their pockets.........Even cars that are mass produced if there is short supply,they won't hesitate,some pay way over book,madness!

  • @bobp7732
    @bobp7732 5 месяцев назад +1

    Same in Australia

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Oh really? That’s crazy hearing it from the other side of the world 😲

  • @f35500
    @f35500 5 месяцев назад +1

    Totally agree with your reasoning I think it leaves a bad taste, and total con really!
    If I could I wouldn’t out of principle really!
    I think it’s only the last 6 -7 years, they sometimes struggled to sell early gt3s in period jayem and mark mcann has stuff about this on there channels, they wanted him to buy 3 tycans which would lose 70k a pop driving them out the showroom!
    The sales staff are normally really Lovley car guys but as you say it’s dealer policy normally
    Need to be brought in line
    Funnily enough Ferrari seem a little bit more open and honest about it! Not that much though

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for agreeing! Yeah it seems like it started just before the lockdowns… a lot have said similar that they noticed it since then. Yeah we’ve always been treated well by the sales staff, but it seems higher up policies for sure! Yeah true haha🤣🤣

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 5 месяцев назад +1

    hadn't heard about the watch requirement

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yep! Came as a surprise for a lot of viewers and friends too😲

  • @marcosvaldes8910
    @marcosvaldes8910 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love Porsches but hate the buying experience. Bought mine through an independent dealer. These dealers with these unethical practices may be reaping the benefits now but karma has a way of coming back to bite.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Same here. Yeah I hope the game changes and it becomes fair again for purchasing new Porsches!

  • @Trophy_R
    @Trophy_R 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would of been nice if you to sell it someone who’s been on that list for a long time, but sell it them for retail price the same as you bought it for, people should stop buying them then the silly game will soon come to an end, it’s only caused by people that allow themselves to be ripped off by Porsche.

  • @dubtechnosessions3161
    @dubtechnosessions3161 5 месяцев назад +1

    "The Porsche Game"...
    Its called EXTORTION!
    lol

  • @Danny1282
    @Danny1282 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is just like Rolex... buy all there shit expensive pieces in order to actually get what you want and then thank them for it

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Very true!!

  • @thunderpants007
    @thunderpants007 5 месяцев назад +1

    Aren’t Porsche taking back control of their dealerships? I thought they were due to the negative effect on clients and image.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I hope so! 🤞🏼

  • @atedejong5620
    @atedejong5620 5 месяцев назад +1

    ok, I will wait for 1 to 1.5 year to buy one.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Good idea!

  • @mrmasterplaster999
    @mrmasterplaster999 5 месяцев назад +1

    its been covered enough and they will never change. Greed !

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      I hope they see our points and do something about it this year, hopefully 😕

  • @NoNO-th3vv
    @NoNO-th3vv 5 месяцев назад +7

    Your collection, your choice, despite the upset viewers😅

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +3

      Fortunately none negative so far haha… but that’s not to say we’ll not be adding another again at some point, it’s a brilliant car 👏🏼

  • @dusy7211
    @dusy7211 5 месяцев назад +4

    Mark McCann effect❤

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +3

      Weirdly enough we’d filmed this before his video went out haha about a month ago🤣👏🏼

    • @dusy7211
      @dusy7211 5 месяцев назад

      @@wam_barn Ahh I see. Love to see that you guys that actually do get the spot's to buy this cars take a stand and shed som light on the mater.

  • @neillgowans4350
    @neillgowans4350 5 месяцев назад +1

    The dealership are accommodating because you give them free money. 😂

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Basically, but we’ve not given into it, this has essentially ruined the relationship I think… it’s a shame as I’ll still be buying Porsche’s 😬

  • @No-Name360
    @No-Name360 5 месяцев назад +1

    10k worth watch sitting in car is useless

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      It’s a pointless addition 🕝

  • @jensi.1
    @jensi.1 5 месяцев назад +3

    Also, did you see mark mccan did a video on this very thing the other day... looks like you arent the only one fed up of being treat like this.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah we’d seen, we actually filmed all of this and prepared to put it out and then saw he’d posted so it seems a lot of people are fed up!

    • @gymbeats6050
      @gymbeats6050 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, enough is enough

  • @user-zk1dx8it8z
    @user-zk1dx8it8z 5 месяцев назад +1

    Belief me this Not only an UK big shit of Porsche behavior, this happens also in Germany day by day. Because of that and I ha e seen this already for 10 years thats Why I havent bought and Porsche anymore….Porsche is realy sucks…

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Oh it also happens in Germany too? I love the brand but the game isn’t for me anymore 😕

  • @brianhimmelman420
    @brianhimmelman420 5 месяцев назад +2

    comedy show

  • @edblair5253
    @edblair5253 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thry domt want poor people or people with just enough money to buy one. No poppers who flip it for a measely 100grand

  • @legendgalaxy
    @legendgalaxy 5 месяцев назад +4

    No more Porsche's for tom at list 😀

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      I think I’ve done alright so far haha! It’s unfortunate, but I didn’t want to be playing the game anymore 😬

  • @steviepaton2899
    @steviepaton2899 5 месяцев назад +3

    Btw how much you sell it for lol

  • @sammy674
    @sammy674 5 месяцев назад +2

    So, you're complaining that you have to sell them the car back, the one you bought from them a year ago, for the same price you originally paid? Rich peoples problems...

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +3

      When you’re losing out on 200k in the case of the 918, it doesn’t make any sense to sell the car back for such a huge loss for an allocation. I don’t think anyone would want to lose out on that much money regardless.

  • @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_g0g97
    @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_g0g97 5 месяцев назад +3

    So good👏 Cant wait to see you guys perform again.

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you!

  • @leewilliams9158
    @leewilliams9158 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t blame you, you spent enough with them, so why not Time, people realise and don’t play the game no more 👍

    • @wam_barn
      @wam_barn  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, yeah haha a lot has been spent at Porsche over the last few years that’s for sure 😅😂