I’m an HVAC Manager, been in the industry for 23+ years and I agree with everything on your video. Honeywell has been doing Tstats since the early 1900s. Also their interface on app and device are way better. The T10 is what I recommend to customers who want a smart tstat. Great video.
@@storyteller935 Yes, All you need is 5 wires R - Power (typically red) W - Heat (typically white) G - Fan (typically green) Y - A/C condenser (typically yellow) C - Common / Ground (tstat needs this for constant power)(typically blue or brown) Make sure power is off at furnace whenever working on a tstat otherwise you will short fuse or burn transformer and just wire the tstat as shown above. Confirm same connections at furnace. Power on furnace and follow prompts via screen and Resideo app.
I do think Honeywell has an advantage in making thermostats over the techie companies. I had one of the earlier Honeywell "smart" wifi thermostats with the color display (more so app enabled than smart) and it was actually great. I chose that over a Nest. I got a rebate through my local utility (and it may have been on sale as well, I think). I got the Honeywell for free whereas there would have been some out of pocket with Nest. That was around 2014 I think. No issues whatsoever. I had a friend who bought a Nest around the same time and he had to replace his. A co-worker had an Ecobee (1st gen) and had issues and stopped using it Anyway, I kept the Honeywell tstat until I sold my home. I left it in the house. I have a new home now and trying to decide if I even want a smart thermostat this time or just stick with the regular Honeywell that came with it (has a digital display and scheduling, just not app enabled). If I do upgrade, it will more than likely be Honeywell
I actually replaced my HVAC system this spring w/ a Mitsubishi central air. It doesn't use a typical off the shelf thermostat. Though it does use a Honeywell rebadged thermostat. I even was able to reuse my remote sensor. The annoying thibg is I had to spend extra on a wifi module and there is no dynamic control of the humidifier. I am actually planning on using one of my old thetmostats Nest or T10 for only controlling the humidifier.
FYI, Nest 3rd gen has overcurrent protection for their mosfets unlike 2nd & 1st gen. But i agree, I have had to add isolation relays in a few furnaces when something(usually reversing valves) draws too much current through the nest and its protection disables it.
Im lost. Wth are isolation relays mosfors? I just want to be sble to control my AC /Hest when Im not home. Be able to shut it off when I see its not keeping up with the heat outside.
Does the T10 operate the humidifier (and fan) without the need for calling for the furnace to be ON? It's unclear in the documentation if the T10 can run the humidifier independently. Thanks.
Great video man! I also read about the wifi connection issues on the T9/T10’s. Is yours still holding up well? Do you have yours on 2.4 or 5ghz? I wondered if the wifi module honeywell uses is not the best. Maybe it struggles on one frequency more than the other regardless of distance from an access point.
My wifi connectivity has been awesome for the T10. Granted I have a pretty decent wifi network setup with specific IoT network and dedicated 5ghz and 2.4ghz SSIDs. I think mine is on 2.4Ghz. I still love this thing and recommend against the nest.
agree. just had one installed today and it doesn't even connect to wifi. Its saying that the wifi is to far from its location yet, I've had an older Honeywell and works just fine with high signal.
@@orlanditopiano1392 I have great coverage on my 1600ft^2 house, though I have 3x access points. Small IoT devices like this won't have a large antenna and they are pretty low power. Only outage issues I have had was from Microsoft Azure going down, which hosts their site.
The problem with the Honeywell Thermostat is that it distorts heavily in the trash compactor. The Nest thermostat is more solid and it imprints into the trash on a solid pack and doesn’t distort. I like the Nest because of that.
I steer clear of NEST due to how Google uses it to monitor your activity. MOSFETS are also energy drains. You could put a larger one in but then wasting more energy.
As an hvac tech of decades and now sole owner of an hvac company in Canada I can confirm you are absolutely correct. I have personally witnessed some brands (I will not mention specific names) have very high resistance in a few years of use and are the reason for repair bills, also as I have seen equipment progress over the years and control boards are becoming more frail and susceptible to component failure due to high resistance in thermostat circuits as well as power surges. A furnace manufacturer even sent out a bulletin about a couple thermostat brands that will void your warranty if installed with their equipment, that did trigger a lawsuit but made me even more confident in the thermostats I sell. Honeywell has been our industry standard for 100 years for a reason.
I’m an HVAC Manager, been in the industry for 23+ years and I agree with everything on your video. Honeywell has been doing Tstats since the early 1900s. Also their interface on app and device are way better. The T10 is what I recommend to customers who want a smart tstat. Great video.
would you know how to install one , i have seven wires, ac unit outside, gas burner in the basement
@@storyteller935 Yes, All you need is 5 wires
R - Power (typically red)
W - Heat (typically white)
G - Fan (typically green)
Y - A/C condenser (typically yellow)
C - Common / Ground (tstat needs this for constant power)(typically blue or brown)
Make sure power is off at furnace whenever working on a tstat otherwise you will short fuse or burn transformer and just wire the tstat as shown above. Confirm same connections at furnace. Power on furnace and follow prompts via screen and Resideo app.
I really like that you break down what fails more frequently in thermostats. I appreciate your review!
I really appreciate the detail you put into this review. Thank you
I do think Honeywell has an advantage in making thermostats over the techie companies. I had one of the earlier Honeywell "smart" wifi thermostats with the color display (more so app enabled than smart) and it was actually great. I chose that over a Nest. I got a rebate through my local utility (and it may have been on sale as well, I think). I got the Honeywell for free whereas there would have been some out of pocket with Nest. That was around 2014 I think. No issues whatsoever. I had a friend who bought a Nest around the same time and he had to replace his. A co-worker had an Ecobee (1st gen) and had issues and stopped using it Anyway, I kept the Honeywell tstat until I sold my home. I left it in the house.
I have a new home now and trying to decide if I even want a smart thermostat this time or just stick with the regular Honeywell that came with it (has a digital display and scheduling, just not app enabled). If I do upgrade, it will more than likely be Honeywell
I actually replaced my HVAC system this spring w/ a Mitsubishi central air. It doesn't use a typical off the shelf thermostat. Though it does use a Honeywell rebadged thermostat. I even was able to reuse my remote sensor. The annoying thibg is I had to spend extra on a wifi module and there is no dynamic control of the humidifier. I am actually planning on using one of my old thetmostats Nest or T10 for only controlling the humidifier.
FYI, Nest 3rd gen has overcurrent protection for their mosfets unlike 2nd & 1st gen.
But i agree, I have had to add isolation relays in a few furnaces when something(usually reversing valves) draws too much current through the nest and its protection disables it.
Im lost. Wth are isolation relays mosfors? I just want to be sble to control my AC /Hest when Im not home. Be able to shut it off when I see its not keeping up with the heat outside.
I like your breakdown. Are you still digging the T10?
Yeah, still using it and no complaints so far. I still recommend it over other thermostats that I have used or researched.
I made a nest vs ecobee video. Maybe it’s time to compare the t10 also
@@elran123 yeah that would be awesome!
Does the T10 operate the humidifier (and fan) without the need for calling for the furnace to be ON? It's unclear in the documentation if the T10 can run the humidifier independently. Thanks.
I think I recall seeing a setting for this, though I have it only set to come on with heat.
Yes you can set it up in the ISU setting. It gives you the option to set up a stream, bypass and fan-powered.
Great video man! I also read about the wifi connection issues on the T9/T10’s. Is yours still holding up well? Do you have yours on 2.4 or 5ghz? I wondered if the wifi module honeywell uses is not the best. Maybe it struggles on one frequency more than the other regardless of distance from an access point.
My wifi connectivity has been awesome for the T10. Granted I have a pretty decent wifi network setup with specific IoT network and dedicated 5ghz and 2.4ghz SSIDs. I think mine is on 2.4Ghz. I still love this thing and recommend against the nest.
agree. just had one installed today and it doesn't even connect to wifi. Its saying that the wifi is to far from its location yet, I've had an older Honeywell and works just fine with high signal.
@@SolarityTechnology Mine doesn't Just had it installed today and the coverage is garbage.. My old Honeywell has better coverage
@@orlanditopiano1392 I have great coverage on my 1600ft^2 house, though I have 3x access points. Small IoT devices like this won't have a large antenna and they are pretty low power. Only outage issues I have had was from Microsoft Azure going down, which hosts their site.
The problem with the Honeywell Thermostat is that it distorts heavily in the trash compactor. The Nest thermostat is more solid and it imprints into the trash on a solid pack and doesn’t distort. I like the Nest because of that.
Did you have any problems with this one?
I steer clear of NEST due to how Google uses it to monitor your activity. MOSFETS are also energy drains. You could put a larger one in but then wasting more energy.
As an hvac tech of decades and now sole owner of an hvac company in Canada I can confirm you are absolutely correct. I have personally witnessed some brands (I will not mention specific names) have very high resistance in a few years of use and are the reason for repair bills, also as I have seen equipment progress over the years and control boards are becoming more frail and susceptible to component failure due to high resistance in thermostat circuits as well as power surges. A furnace manufacturer even sent out a bulletin about a couple thermostat brands that will void your warranty if installed with their equipment, that did trigger a lawsuit but made me even more confident in the thermostats I sell. Honeywell has been our industry standard for 100 years for a reason.
How many trees were harmed in the making of this box 😁
I hate how in your face all the smart stats are. I will stick with honeywell.
I got nest thermostat installed at home, it sucks, will not recommend this brand, don’t buy nest!