Car dealership, bank mistake ruined one Massachusetts woman's credit score

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • The I-Team's Call for Action helped an Ipswich woman who spent years trying to get to the bottom of a mistake that was affecting her credit score.

Комментарии • 206

  • @SteveSabbai
    @SteveSabbai 29 дней назад +420

    A Stealership and a Bank did not want to help a customer until they started getting bad publicity from the news. Are you surprised?

    • @PatrickBaptist
      @PatrickBaptist 28 дней назад +12

      EXACTLY what I call them.

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 28 дней назад +8

      This isn't a dealership issue, they have done nothing wrong. The loan holder ( the bank ) released the title to the dealership and the ONLY way that this would occur is if the dealership paid off the loan.

    • @eldoradoboy
      @eldoradoboy 28 дней назад

      @@PatrickBaptist 100%!!!

    • @nicholasfoley7105
      @nicholasfoley7105 28 дней назад +3

      2 days it took to fix....bs

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 28 дней назад +5

      @@nicholasfoley7105 If the lady would have asked HER BANK to escalate this rather than just talking to a call center, it would have been fixed long ago.

  • @Joqg2tf-2843
    @Joqg2tf-2843 28 дней назад +141

    Instead of calling this tv station, this lady should have called a good consumer law lawyer. They violated Fair Credit Reporting Act and she should have been entitled to monetary awards well into thousands. Hope she didn’t waiver her rights in exchange for the measly 4 oil changes.

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 28 дней назад +14

      Instead of calling the TV station, she should have asked the banks front line customer service to escalate the situation rather than waiting 2 years. It is OBVIOUS that the bank paid off the loan because the title was RELEASED by the bank.

    • @tamiibrock6176
      @tamiibrock6176 26 дней назад +13

      To call a lawyer costs her legs and arms. To call news is the final option and it works faster than anything.

    • @Joqg2tf-2843
      @Joqg2tf-2843 26 дней назад +3

      @@tamiibrock6176 not necessarily. For FCRA violations, most lawyers take cases on contingency, meaning you don’t pay and get paid only if your case wins. You just have to be prepared to explain your facts and have good documentation to support your claim.

    • @snowflakehunter
      @snowflakehunter 25 дней назад +9

      The media was free. The lawyer is extremely expensive. It's a no brainer.

    • @snowflakehunter
      @snowflakehunter 25 дней назад +5

      ​@@Joqg2tf-2843that is only if they are fighting to get money. They were not fighting to get money they were fighting to make things right. You are incorrect.

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 28 дней назад +152

    Free maintenance or not I wouldn't have a thing to do with that dealership ever again. They get zero points for "making things right" as they only did it under the threat of bad publicity.

    • @9sheri9
      @9sheri9 28 дней назад +4

      Amen

    • @Bill-im6nt
      @Bill-im6nt 28 дней назад +7

      And 2 years later!

    • @buddyloyal8420
      @buddyloyal8420 28 дней назад +1

      Two sweet ladies and a great outcome.
      The Subaru dealership did not help this poor lady.
      These indifferent trolls should be boycotted.
      As they posess integrity akin to 👹 Donald J. Trumputinixon.🐖
      Oy-vey !

  • @sj1547
    @sj1547 28 дней назад +58

    It's funny how fast it gets resolved when the news gets involved.

    • @UItrakilla
      @UItrakilla 19 дней назад

      That's why I get a attorney same result 😂

  • @andrec6012
    @andrec6012 28 дней назад +76

    I hate these type of stories. These morons make mistakes, they give the customer the runaround and blame the little person. But as soon as the story goes public, “oh oh excuse us (clears throat) …how can we help?” I’m so glad Nancy finally got the help she deserved!!

  • @neryskkiran1820
    @neryskkiran1820 28 дней назад +70

    Ridiculous! She should not have had to deal with this! Maybe she can sue them! Thank goodness she persevered!

    • @bjvu9460
      @bjvu9460 28 дней назад

      She cant at this point since they resolved the issue and there is no harm. Had she done that instead of calling the news, the court would have awarded her for pain and suffering since she lost time trying to chase both of the companies and got her credit ruined. If she was smart she would have tried making a few purchases that needed credit knowing it would be denied which would add to that pain and suffering since it would negatively affect her life. If only she knew she could have gotten a 10k - 20k check with easy and they would still have to solve her problem

    • @neryskkiran1820
      @neryskkiran1820 28 дней назад

      @@bjvu9460 It wasn't until she called the news that anything was resolved. It wasn't until then that what had happened was figured out. She couldn't have taken them to court before then, because what happened was unclear, and the cost would have been astronomical.
      But now that it's over, of course she can take them to court for pain and suffering. And all the time she spent trying to get this resolved.

  • @snowflakehunter
    @snowflakehunter 25 дней назад +7

    As a former employee of a media company, I can assure you that the media has much more power than what people realize.

  • @vikashummer
    @vikashummer 28 дней назад +35

    a 2 yr maint, plan to fix that huge mistake?? the lady should have asked for a free car or more !!!

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 28 дней назад +2

      The dealer did nothing wrong as they PAID OFF THE LOAN. The bank released the title without following through, blame them.

  • @Bigrignohio
    @Bigrignohio 25 дней назад +6

    Fixed in days THEIR error after refusing for TWO YEARS to do a damn thing!

  • @TheOnlyJu305
    @TheOnlyJu305 24 дня назад +2

    She has such a sweet heart on her. I don’t think I would have ever been so calm.

  • @tjj5337
    @tjj5337 28 дней назад +41

    I am glad I didn’t go to that stealership.

  • @theabyssaldemon
    @theabyssaldemon 28 дней назад +11

    This I-Team is really out here fixing lives one issue at a time. I'm not sure if it was created to boost ratings or just to introduce a side segment, but it really has a massive effect in peoples lives and I really hope you guys continue to offer this fantastic service to those in need.

  • @TheMpo1986
    @TheMpo1986 28 дней назад +25

    She should get a lifetime warrantee.

    • @ekop1778
      @ekop1778 27 дней назад

      MY 18 HAD 6 YR WARRENTY
      STILL WAITING ON MY RECALL FOR YR AND HALF
      ON HEADLIGHT REPLACEMENTS

  • @QuickStix26
    @QuickStix26 28 дней назад +20

    Why did they release the title to the dealership in the first place?

  • @biennui
    @biennui 28 дней назад +23

    Good thing this channel allows viewers to comment on its story whereas WCVB turns off comments for all of its stories in RUclips but allows people to post comments on Facebook.

    • @johnnymichael1804
      @johnnymichael1804 28 дней назад +2

      That's why we call them the enemies of humanity.
      That fact that you're not allowed to question stories that are run by corporate news outlets on SOCIAL MEDIA, is very telling about what they actually think of us.
      Their days are numbered, however.

  • @christopherchi9230
    @christopherchi9230 28 дней назад +14

    It seems any business or bank always do things faster when the media comes into play.

  • @karlmckinnell2635
    @karlmckinnell2635 28 дней назад +13

    They did nothing to help this woman 🤦🏽

  • @Smart-Towel-RG-400
    @Smart-Towel-RG-400 28 дней назад +52

    the dealership should be charged with felonies

    • @bobroberts2371
      @bobroberts2371 28 дней назад +5

      A felony for what exactly? The dealership paid off the loan and got the title from the bank, what more should they have done? The issue is with the bank not the dealer.

  • @dystopia-usa
    @dystopia-usa 28 дней назад +9

    Should have been an easy fix/correction but most big corporations are run by indifferent, crooked sociopaths these days.

  • @rondas7772
    @rondas7772 28 дней назад +12

    This almost happened to me but I called everyday and stayed on them, I worked the car financing pprwprk department crazy, it took about 40 days though, ridiculous on that dealership

  • @bradhampton6457
    @bradhampton6457 28 дней назад +4

    That is downright criminal. The bank and that crummy dealership ruined the woman’s credit because of their mistake.

  • @TheRoadWarrior
    @TheRoadWarrior 25 дней назад +3

    What kind of stupid bank releases a lien but doesn’t confirm payment?

  • @marvin7533
    @marvin7533 25 дней назад +3

    They should've given the customer lifetime free maintenance plus $6700 cash back refund.

  • @americanadreaming
    @americanadreaming 27 дней назад +2

    Thanks, Boston. The rest of the nation needs stories like this right now.

  • @johnthompson7548
    @johnthompson7548 28 дней назад +8

    Getting an endoscopy from the local news. Changes things

  • @anthonydurant6763
    @anthonydurant6763 28 дней назад +4

    I work for a financial institution that services auto loans someone clearly dropped the ball somewhere as that tile shouldn’t be released if the bank never got the payoff. its also unfortunate that dealership didn’t try to help and they should’ve saw that the payoff cleared on their end…
    I will say this as a cautionary to all who are looking to sell or trade their vehicles in or return them(if lease). PLEASE make sure to follow up to ensure your financial acct closes because often times the dealership don’t immediately and then customers will get bill saying your past due and be mad thinking everything was done in a day when thats not the case. Do not assume everything the dealer tells you is true.

  • @Christopher-hg2yi
    @Christopher-hg2yi 28 дней назад +8

    Credit scores are a scam

  • @grayrabbit2211
    @grayrabbit2211 28 дней назад +4

    It's sad that it requires getting the media involved to get companies to do what they're supposed to

  • @9sheri9
    @9sheri9 28 дней назад +5

    Growing trend for local news stations across the country to white knight us lowly consumers.
    It's symbiotic - you get views, we get content, & someone out there who's being forcibly entered up the backside by yet another rotten corporation gets much needed reprieve. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. ❤

  • @danjones2164
    @danjones2164 20 дней назад +1

    Over a decade ago I purchased a vehicle from a used car lot and when I didn’t receive a notice to update my registration tabs I went in to the office where you get that done. It turned out that the title didn’t transfer over to me but the lady working the office believed I was the owner after I presented the purchase receipt. If I had been pulled over it would been one hell of an ordeal.

  • @BeccaHetrick
    @BeccaHetrick 27 дней назад +2

    Why? She has proof she traded the car in... It's not her responsibility anymore...

  • @jasontodd8071
    @jasontodd8071 21 день назад +1

    Thank you, Cheryl!!!!!

  • @aboutface102
    @aboutface102 28 дней назад +2

    Wow, the incompetence on display here is astounding

  • @Darci3333
    @Darci3333 28 дней назад +1

    Many years ago I had a small dealer try to do this to me. It is indeed a nightmare.

  • @jamesreid3954
    @jamesreid3954 28 дней назад +3

    Nice job Cheryl!!!

  • @mannywilliams6409
    @mannywilliams6409 26 дней назад

    Had the similar thing happen to me, but for a smaller amount, the difference being my bank did not contact me but instead charged it off. Something I did not become aware of until a year later when I checked my credit history.

  • @smithconnie07
    @smithconnie07 28 дней назад +1

    Great job!

  • @user-kt1it8kc1p
    @user-kt1it8kc1p 28 дней назад +1

    Funny how it took getting the new media involved then all of a sudden the dealership was willing to work with the bank.....I would never shop there again!

  • @machineman6498
    @machineman6498 28 дней назад

    How hard would it have been for Ira Subaru to check their work?

  • @webguy943
    @webguy943 28 дней назад +2

    Please boycott subaru dealerships everyone.

  • @Buy_YT_Views_921
    @Buy_YT_Views_921 29 дней назад +3

    You're a natural in front of the camera

  • @SupraManG
    @SupraManG 28 дней назад +2

    This is such a disaster for any consumer. It is unwise to trade in a car while there is still a balance left on it. Even when the dealership says, "We'll pay off your trade. No matter how much you owe". All they do is add the remaining balance back to the car you are purchasing and that will, in turn, cause your balance to go up and take more months to pay it all off! Be cautious about this, people.

    • @rondas7772
      @rondas7772 28 дней назад +1

      Not true, I've traded in 10 cars with a balance, you must be young,

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp 28 дней назад

      100% correct. There are no free lunches so if it’s coming out of the old car, it’s getting added into the new car. You may not see it but it’s there.

    • @TLACY606
      @TLACY606 28 дней назад +1

      @@rondas7772I agree. But I believe he means, it’s better not to give them any “leverage” or pay more than you have to. Depending on the “cough” stealership of course.

    • @beaviskornholio2754
      @beaviskornholio2754 27 дней назад

      ​@rondas7772 years ago I was told this by the dealer. If I owed money on the car I was trading in they would pay off the balance and add that amount to the loan of the new car I was getting. Unless the value of the car really exceeded what was owed.

  • @philoctetes_wordsworth
    @philoctetes_wordsworth 28 дней назад +1

    How disgusting. Why is it that we all need either a journalist’s bright light or a fierce attorney, just to get lazy, worthless, greedy creeps to do their jobs?

  • @youtoobe169
    @youtoobe169 28 дней назад +3

    Lawsuit!!

  • @SpcT0rres
    @SpcT0rres 28 дней назад

    Resolve it quickly?

  • @tom11zz884
    @tom11zz884 26 дней назад +1

    Such a shame that the media has to get involved to set thing right
    I sort of blame the lady though for not checking with the bank to make sure her account was paid off.
    I would have kept checking to see if it was paid off, if not keep pressing the dealership.

  • @RyanZview
    @RyanZview 24 дня назад

    I love that there is help for consumers, albeit not always the more traditional ones

  • @jgg204
    @jgg204 24 дня назад

    I can't stress this enough. Use a credit union to finance your vehicle. Sell your old vehicle privately. Never ever rely on a dealership finance department to do anything properly.

  • @PeterHernandez-lg2eh
    @PeterHernandez-lg2eh 28 дней назад

    What the subaru stealership name

  • @cesarsalgadosalgado2199
    @cesarsalgadosalgado2199 24 дня назад

    Someone in the dealership scammed her they knew exactly what they were doing with the car with the money and knew she had a clean and high credit score and falsely reported the claim to the bank so they would keep the money to themselves the person in charge for this in the dealership should be fired and prosecuted

  • @johnhudson3095
    @johnhudson3095 27 дней назад

    rule#1 never trade a vehicle in when you still owe on it.

  • @stillwaters4097
    @stillwaters4097 28 дней назад

    2 years of free "maintenance" which probably only includes oil changes is not enough for this major error. Especially when the only way to get this resolved was to call the news station so they could embarrass them into doing whats right.

  • @MouseCIick
    @MouseCIick 6 дней назад

    she is just one of many that people turn away.

  • @316Tahiti
    @316Tahiti 28 дней назад

    this is the fear i get when i trade in my vehicle that something like this will happen.

  • @suruha2306
    @suruha2306 26 дней назад

    My ex-inlaws thought they were so clever! Their financed truck, bought new, had a motor issue with one payment left. They decided not to pay it.
    Fast forward a few years, their son, my ex, and I went to buy a car. We got turned down. We couldn't understand why, so, I went downtown to find out. The banker looked us up and said it was for a bad credit charge. What bad credit? The inlaws' refusal to pay their last payment! Somehow, 'Frod' (deliberate misspelling) motor company thought a Steve was Howard!
    When the banker put me on the phone with the dealer, he was all but trying to give us the damned car! We turned HIM down and went elsewhere!
    This was in '74, so, hopefully this company learned to spell since then!

  • @7motion985
    @7motion985 23 дня назад

    ❤ the work of the news 🥇🥇🥇🥇

  • @countbenjamin1442
    @countbenjamin1442 28 дней назад +1

    They didnt so everything in their power...they git bad public PR from thr news and they quixkly got it taken care of. That dealership needs to give her skme money for their mistake that took news report to correct

  • @ctjk1982
    @ctjk1982 28 дней назад

    That's why the best thing to do. Is to get the money from the dealership. And hand in the money yourself. Never trust anyone like the dealership to pay off a loan in a trade for you. 9 out of 10 times they won't. And not only will you still be on the hook for the money owed. Messing up your credit score. But the dealership will try to use this as a way to think free money.

  • @RoughNeckDelta
    @RoughNeckDelta 26 дней назад

    The only reason dealers are able to abuse customers like this is because they have a powerful lobby group at the state level.

  • @danielb3863
    @danielb3863 28 дней назад +13

    Image being only 6500 away from owning a car outright but instead you choose to start a whole new car loan. America might be the land of the free but its populace has other plans other than that with their personal lives.

    • @craigc1879
      @craigc1879 28 дней назад +4

      Cars don’t last forever, she made a better new car choice. We had a Kia soul at work, they are junk, cheaply made, I’m sure with only 6500 left, the car was near its end.

    • @nicholasthompson7690
      @nicholasthompson7690 28 дней назад +1

      @@craigc1879Kia/Hyundais are crap. I'd never buy one

  • @bjvu9460
    @bjvu9460 28 дней назад

    People are really not smart. If after you try and the dealership fail to rectify the problem, your next step is to sue them in court and you dont even need a lawyer because they would not let this go to trial. A lawyer would help because its a slam dunk case. The next step is to sue them for pain and suffering since her credit is ruined and I bet they would get this fixed immediately

  • @josegaspar813
    @josegaspar813 28 дней назад +2

    This is the 10th story I've seen today over a simple error that people spent weeks or months trying to clear up, only for it to be taken care of in a couple days after the local news gets involved. Really should be a government agency exclusively for fining companies in these situations.

  • @NighDarke
    @NighDarke 25 дней назад

    Credit scores are a scam. If you miss one payment your score drops a lot. If you miss payments occasionally along your score stays low. But stop paying at all for months on end and your score starts going back up.

  • @diapernh
    @diapernh 17 дней назад

    First she is responsible for payments until the payoff happens.
    If the dealer paid it off and their check was cashed, then the copy of the cancelled check should be sent to the bank proving they got it and cashed it. Then it is on the bank to find it…
    I mean obviously they released the lien so that means they satisfied it… no bank is going to send the title or lien release unless the account was paid off.

  • @MaekarManastorm
    @MaekarManastorm 27 дней назад

    This is why you never trade in A car

  • @Comeswoopfam
    @Comeswoopfam 28 дней назад +1

    Car Payments just sounds awful

  • @FoNgThOnG
    @FoNgThOnG 28 дней назад

    Subaru and that bank needs to give her the car for free for this scam.

  • @Whatislife26
    @Whatislife26 25 дней назад

    Lexus of Watertown ripped me off wanted me money back and they flat out did not want to help me. Car failed inspection twice for tires and then the radio stopped working on my is250 fsport that another dealer wanted three thousand dollars to fix. They sold me a pos

  • @lilypudd
    @lilypudd 26 дней назад

    She will see this causing problems on her credit report for years. Even with letters from lawyers they will continue to show the problem and it will keep her credit score down. Even though the company sent the letter, she has tho have the send another to get it taken off the credit report.

  • @pacman531984
    @pacman531984 28 дней назад

    It’s sad she had to tell the news to get that taken care of. Fear of bad press smh

  • @cesarsalgadosalgado2199
    @cesarsalgadosalgado2199 24 дня назад

    They knew exactly what they were doing the dealership acts like they were gonna report it they didn't it's called scamming they don't report it they keep the money falsely claim against you and the bank and they never get investigated

  • @Howboutdatone
    @Howboutdatone 28 дней назад +6

    Sue Subaru for stress disorder conduct

    • @Bill-im6nt
      @Bill-im6nt 28 дней назад

      One reason the dealership mode still exists, the car company just throws up their hands and says "I know nothing, nothing" and let the dealer take the rap.

  • @lordkreigs1978
    @lordkreigs1978 21 день назад

    So she didn’t have her new car painted purple?

  • @edwinjrpinney4651
    @edwinjrpinney4651 27 дней назад

    They should’ve given her the Subaru for free as the resolution.

  • @Burnlit1337
    @Burnlit1337 28 дней назад

    CBS ITeam should had kept pressing the banks and dealership. This is a felony and they let it go on for years.

  • @leosheppard8517
    @leosheppard8517 6 дней назад

    0:21 it’s a parking brake. Pull it up. Use it. It’s there park your car. Just leaving it parking on the gear shift is damaging the parking pawl in the gear box … not a cheap repair.

  • @trvrsln
    @trvrsln 28 дней назад

    2 years??? I would’ve barely lasted 2 days with all this before calling the news!

  • @JohnDoe-mx3rr
    @JohnDoe-mx3rr 28 дней назад

    At least they try to compensate with something. But the bank need to do something also. They release the car title.

  • @briansimpson5531
    @briansimpson5531 27 дней назад

    Two free years of maintenance......and $100k for the credit ding....if you ask me.

  • @Bill-im6nt
    @Bill-im6nt 28 дней назад

    Hard to believe, a dealership not paying off the loan on a trade-in, then reselling it and a bank puts another loan on it after getting the title from the scammer? Unheard of, except on weekdays. At least Car Max does it without the title!

  • @justanothertroll9476
    @justanothertroll9476 28 дней назад

    2 years free maintenance which is basically 4 oil changes on a new car...lol got to give him at least an E for effort

  • @donttar3196
    @donttar3196 26 дней назад

    That’s why if you can pay cash for a car, then do so. I refuse to take out a loan. Cash is KING!

  • @christopherpuffer6494
    @christopherpuffer6494 28 дней назад

    She should have got a lawyer first.

  • @2MANYCARS
    @2MANYCARS 28 дней назад

    No one should have bought a new car thru financing, that's one of the stupidest thing anyone could do, paying more for something that loses value over time.

  • @81recinos
    @81recinos 17 дней назад

    Nearly two years, they decided to do something about it??

  • @jrdajuiceman754
    @jrdajuiceman754 28 дней назад

    Damn it took 2 years and the news for something that could have been reviewed and done in an hour or less

  • @RoadWarden
    @RoadWarden 21 день назад

    Only two things will get people to do whats right. Bad publicity and lawsuits.

  • @mc88dx
    @mc88dx 28 дней назад

    Happy to help…if there’s an investigation.

  • @stannovacki2406
    @stannovacki2406 28 дней назад

    meanwhile, the auto dealer's bank account had her $$$ for two years, using it to further their business at no cost to them and at expense to her. yeah, some happy ending.

  • @danc9440
    @danc9440 28 дней назад

    Not shocking, as this is when Prime Auto owned Ira Auto. Shady stuff right there. Glad "Call for Action" got involved and made things right for this lady.

  • @dnipple92
    @dnipple92 27 дней назад

    You could have got a lawyer?

  • @7motion985
    @7motion985 23 дня назад

    Sue the bank and dealer

  • @john_wick1
    @john_wick1 27 дней назад

    dealership and banks... 2 most untrustworthy

  • @eternalspring1034
    @eternalspring1034 28 дней назад +2

    To be fair, your credit score should automatically go down when you buy a suburu.

    • @craigc1879
      @craigc1879 28 дней назад +1

      Wrong, Kia.

    • @eternalspring1034
      @eternalspring1034 28 дней назад +1

      @@craigc1879 oh with kia you get a negative credit score.

    • @nicholasthompson7690
      @nicholasthompson7690 28 дней назад

      Uh no

    • @nicholasthompson7690
      @nicholasthompson7690 28 дней назад

      @@craigc1879Kia and Hyundais

    • @dyates6380
      @dyates6380 28 дней назад

      LOL. I will say, I bought a Subaru Outback in 2013 and LOVED the car. I mean LOVED it. The dealership itself though? The service department ALONE made me not buy another one when it was time to buy something else. Loved the car but the way the dealership itself did business was enough to turn me off on them in the future.

  • @NoNo-iz8hd
    @NoNo-iz8hd 28 дней назад

    The Stealership needs to go to prison.

  • @alicebas377
    @alicebas377 29 дней назад +12

    and that's why i pay cash for everything........i don't need no loans, only one credit card, for my you tube account...15 bucks a month.......

    • @hibabe5038
      @hibabe5038 29 дней назад +6

      everyone is not as wealthy as you.

    • @TheINFJChannel
      @TheINFJChannel 28 дней назад +5

      "I don't need no loans" literally means you do need a loan.

    • @craigc1879
      @craigc1879 28 дней назад +1

      You win the award for today!

    • @dyates6380
      @dyates6380 28 дней назад +1

      @@TheINFJChannel Thank you. Alice isn't able to understand words too well. However ........ have you heard? She's RICH and doesn't pay any more than fifteen bucks a month for her YT subscription with her ONE credit card though ............ 😂😂😂😂😂.

  • @CraftnMomma
    @CraftnMomma 20 дней назад

    So 2 years they couldn't help her but the news people can get it done in 2 days...

  • @NoNo-iz8hd
    @NoNo-iz8hd 28 дней назад

    2 years of free maintenance. Shove it!

  • @JaredFleischer
    @JaredFleischer 27 дней назад

    I assume Subaru is gonna give this lady free maintenance etc for life right?

  • @user-xc5es2ut7t
    @user-xc5es2ut7t 28 дней назад

    That situation certainly calls for a GRIMACE outlook.