How Ni Effects The Daily Life of an INTJ & INFJ
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The human side of having Ni as your dominant cognitive function and how it makes an INTJ/INFJ feel like an alien.
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Intj = alien
Infj = friendly alien
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We are just here amongst all these humans. 😅
lol, that's cute. 😆
That’s the best description ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 As an INFJ I absolutely love the INTJs in my life .
I've never been this happy and fulfilled as an INFJ working for an INTJ for more than 3 years now.
Please talk about why Se is so hard for us
This made me chuckle. 😆
My friends are INTJ and once you get to know them, they are warm kind and have good sense of humor. The mastermind part is just how you understand the importance of planning and risk calculating. I am an ENTJ and I have a lot of things people misunderstood how I am. But for me, we treat people with kindness. These videos are meant to provide more info based on personal experience and not to be used to define anyone.
I guess we xNTJs treat people with respect and politeness without all the sugarcoating of the Feelers.. such a refined type of kindness IMO
Exactly! I hope this video can help you understand why the INTJs plan so much in regards to the last comment you left Glitter Bunny about the feeling of not having enough time in a day 🙃
Am an intj and 100% agreed.
Doubt. Intjs are the most mismatched MBTI type.
I'm an INTJ myself, and it's so true when you say that we lose track of time. Some days, I can go through the whole day without noting it until it is time to go too bad, and at this point, I'm just filling empty because I just "did nothing" or "accomplish anything". And then I talk about this with someone, and they just don't understand at all...
Thanks for yours videos, I always feel more understanding, and that are other people just like me out there.
Good luck with your channel! 🍀
Thank you, I really do appreciate the support and I love hearing that people are feeling heard🙏
My brother, I know exactly how you feel. You must remember we are not robots.
ISFP often think they are INFJ then reject the theory lol😂
Ikr, I have so much stuff I could be doing in the sensing world, like chores, working on skills, etc. I am constantly thinking about how much more I could be doing, but then the day ends and I feel like I haven't done anything, all I've done is sit watching RUclips videos and thinking about how things could be
I call it min-maxing. There are times, many times I feel lonely. Then I remember feelings get in the way of the target. It's hard, the multiple outcomes, I do that every day.
My co-workers right now (relatively new job 1 year), said to me today "You're always problem-solving, even when there are no problems." My retort was simple; "That's why there are no problems, I'm mitigating them out before they arise."
Great video Jon
THiS. 💜 Firefighters may get all the glory for swooping in and fixing a problem, but we know it’s far more efficient to mitigate any potential issues/fires from the start. People say that I jump to conclusions. In reality, I’m just really really good at understanding what the consequences will be for each action/decision, so I can usually make the most optimal choice. I try to, anyway, so that all our lives are easier. 😅
My old coworkers said the same thing that it seems like I never run into problems. It's just that I already prepared for them 😂
@FC7040
One of my creatures.
When this ship starts getting crazy-er.. I'll meet you at our spot.
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Anyway, it was as if you'd plucked that right out of my dome.
Many don't see that and still won't connect it once it's gone, it seems. It's unfortunate for all involved really.
"We need them" .. "Why?"
Cuz I dunno.. they know stuff and help us smoosh stuff for later better.
Yeah well that's not really tangible-
We're going to need to bomb it first and there's a possibility of coming to our senses later.
*Told ya! And it's not a happy I told ya I promise. Tried to avoid it but nope.
= Unfortunate.
sooo true
"Ni is trying to reduce randomness so we can choose the fate of the cat" Ahhahaha I can finally understand why I had a really hard time understanding probability during high school while almost all students regarded it as the most basic math subject.
After learning MBTI, I realized that basic is subjective 🙃
Exactly! What a brilliant way to wrap it up!
That's wild. I'm INTJ and when I was young my mother used to yell at me all the time to "Snap Back to Reality" - but I never understood why she and everyone else around me thought I had some weird bubble around me. When I started research on MBTI I finally got some insight that I'm not the only one who thinks just like I do! The way you explained this is just how I feel, especially the "how can anyone relate to someones Dom Ni?" what a question!
100% being an Ni-dom is weird compared to other types. I tried explaining it mulitple times to my loved ones and they never understood. It's nice though to be able to meet people online that understands ✊
RIGHT
@@justcallmejon22 As you said in the video... same for Ne doms. I'm ENFP and it is so difficult to "real world" explain how I came up with 5 possible solutions to a problem that seemingly have no connection to that problem at surface level. It is as though I live my entire life with each problem being a multiple choice question... and I can read all the answers, including the ridiculous ones, and still choose "E: All of the above", because I know they all have merit... especially when some are paired together. I struggle with choosing the best option, though. I can't extrapolate the final outcome and all the steps and variables in between very well. That's where my INTJ husband comes in. He loves the ideas I feed him, and I love that he makes the complex plan from the idea that will bring the best solution, and I simply get to carry it out in bite sized steps (especially since the doing and building of the thing is the part that is arduous for me... I think that is inferior Si's fault, if I'm understanding correctly).
Anyway, I also live my life in my head... with a cast full of colorful characters sharing their stories with me (and I'm actually typing them out... extremely slowly). I will go entire days without remembering to drink water or eat (when I'm focused in on an interest or project). I will forget how many days it's been since I took a shower, even though I know I freshen up each day. I never see faces in the store, because I simply recognize a body and inanimate objects in the sensory world and I move to avoid them while also keeping my mind engaged with everything I'm pondering. I hone in on what I need to buy, but space back out while moving to the next aisle. Teachers repeatedly told my parents I was daydreaming too much in class while I was growing up. Jokes on them, I made honor roll anyway, and still live in my daydreams as an adult. 😂
But yeah, it is so difficult to explain how I came up with certain possible solutions when some of them make no logical connection to the original question.
And now you tell me my husband has the entire multiverse in his head? I always pictured his mind as a super complex machine with thousands of wheels and gears all turning one another. Each wheel or gear is a new factor that impacts all the rest. And if even one wheel goes missing or gums up, the rest stop turning and maintenance needs to be done to overcome the broken gear and switch it out with a new one and a new plan. I think the multiverse analogy is cooler. Maybe this is why he loves Marvel so much... and Inception. And the movie, Live, Die, Repeat.
Anyway, thanks for an amazing video. After watching it, I understand my INTJ husband a little better... and now know his seemingly incessant questions serve a unique purpose for his mind.
I'm actually an ENFP who happens to have a lot of INFJs in my life, and my dad was an INTJ.
This speaks so much to me, I see it so much in my loved ones. Thank you for helping me understand, and somehow also helping me feel understood with your Ne dom comment. It is lonely, and a lot of people can't wrap their brains around it.
I think I can love my loved ones more efficiently now, thank you. 🥰
Please take care of your Ni doms for me 🙂
It is very lonely for Ni doms for sure. I dated an ISTJ and my constant "what if and why" mind constantly clashed with his need to be a human scheduling app. It felt like I was dating siri and I'm sure my need to explore my imagination wasn't fun for him. When people ask me why I'm smiling or laughing I say "nothing", but really I think to myself "If only y'all knew how chill things are in here you'd never want to leave either..."
I felt the same way when I dated an ISTJ 😅
@@justcallmejon22 LOL, it was bad!
Me: "How was work?"
Him: In his robot voice: "I did x @ 13:00, y 14:00, z @ 15:00. I'll eat at 17:00 hours today and then workout until 18:30 we can hang out @19:15 until 21:00 then it will be time for me to go to bed."
Me:"Thanks siri for the scheduling update."😂😒
The only time he wasn't a scheduling app was when he was shields down lol, then he'd lose track of time altogether lol. Sadly that was the only time we connected at all as he's an imagination killer otherwise.
What if and why? Idk man sounds more Ne to me.
@@adorablechrysalis7386 "What if" is a place all Ni doms live, our curiosity (why/why not), and our need to gather as much information as possible to find the best idea/answer/conclusion is classic Ni. Unlike Ne doms where they just keep gathering information with no need of sorting/sifting/reason to get to a logical conclusion they just keep coming up with ideas. The ISTJ I was dating is an Si dom they think linearly, very black and white thus my Ni dom pattern-seeking mind was too much for him.
@@adorablechrysalis7386 "What if" is how all intuition work, as a secondary Ne user, Ne is more about "then what" rather than "and why"
I am an INTJ raised by my INFJ mom. We love using our Ni together (the things that could happen when we do a certain thing).
I absolutely love how you explained INTJ's Ni dreams that Te-Fi-Se work so hard to make Ni a reality. Its just a matter of time. We INTJs achieve our boldest dreams for a reason. Once we have a conclusion on our "whys" and "hows". Nothing can stop us except death. Our abstract dreams seem crazy to some ppl. But it makes perfect sense for us bc we already played out any possible outcome of things in our heads and we make structured plans in the next coming years that's why "we are 10 steps ahead". That's the map that we follow. We just need TIME. Thank you for this video!
I have a soft spot for INFJs so I'm glad to hear that you and your mom have a good relationship. Agreed, nothing in our way when we've decided on our plans 🙃
As an INFJ ― I always “known” that I need to follow the Right Way\Action (Dharma) ― which will lead me to the my ultimate Destination (Karma). That is instead of Plans; instead - there is a General Direction. Does this seem strange to INTJs?
I am an INFJ with an INTJ dad and one of the places we most often connect is imagining possible outcomes.
I feel so recognised it hurts lol... I'm an INFJ and I often wish I wasn't one because everything you stated in the video is basically my reality down to the park example. It feels like I'm floating in an ocean and just staring at the sky with no clue what's happening and why and how I got there and it makes me feel dissociative at times. Ni-Ti loops for me are extremely hard to tap out of, it takes a whole lot of forcing myself to journal down my thoughts in a brain dump before my mind explodes or just touch some grass and watch the clouds to just ground myself into the reality. The despair I feel for the world around me knowing where we're headed but the constant undying hope for making things right especially in a humanitarian way is a conflict we face over a morning cup of tea sometimes. Ni is indeed both a blessing and a curse, it really depends on how we navigate with it 👐
Agreed, prespective is the key difference between a good day and a bad day. My Ni sibling, just remember that you're never alone ✊
One of the best thing that can happen to all INTJs is finding this youtube channel and having enough attention span to focus on everything you say without going on tangent in their own thoughts.
Too much Fe I can't handle the compliment 😅
@@justcallmejon22Hey, nice explanation buy would you please give some Se examples? It would be beneficial if you provide some high level problem. As at low level even Se people are converting variables into constants. So having some Ni hard level difficulty Se example will give us some reality check and some direction to work towards ❤
Ni has always been hard to explain for me. When people ask why I am confident about my "insight", I just say "I just know". Explaining how I came up with my conclusions usually doesn't serve me well because I forget that I act based on connecting patterns and people usually dont get it even if you explain it to them.
Ni is great because it makes you see the world beneath its crust, but sometimes it hinders me to act upon things because I am _scared_ to face reality, foreseeing the hurdles before running the track.
Agreed, I was worried that people wouldn't be able to relate to this video because of how abstract Ni is to describe. I feel your pain talking to non-Ni users about the topic =)
I use this metaphor to explain Ni to people how I "just know" things: imagine a 100-piece puzzle. The more pieces of the puzzle that get put together, the easier it is to predict what the finished product will look like. If you've only put together 3 pieces, then you won't be able to predict what the final picture could look like; but if you put together 90/100 pieces of the puzzle, then it's easy to predict what the rest of it will look like.
I'm doing the same thing, except the "puzzle pieces" are little tiny clues that I picked up on subconsciously, but didn't realize the significance of until later. (I'm an INTJ.)
The more you upload, the more thankful I am for your channel. I don’t think I know any INTJ’s in real life, and at first I disregarded the mbti community because of the stereotypes people attached to different types and the community overall, but I stumbled upon your INTJ childhood video and the most misunderstood video, and it was like someone went back in time and explained my whole life. Your videos, The cognitive functions, it all made sense. I’ve never had this much clarity and insight into why I do what I do before, I am incredibly thankful. There is so much value in your videos and your comments, I had to leave a comment. This information is worth more than diamond to a growing INTJ. Thanks a ton man
Thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate the comment. I also hate the stereotype so I understand how you felt when you disregarded the community ✊
I hate the stereotype, too. My INTJ husband has one of the most caring and authentic hearts I know. He does everything with great intentionality to better our life and the lives of those he cares for. He's not cold. He's not calculating. And his sense of humor cracks me up. It's very off beat and random and out of left field, and I love that.
The stereotypes bother me because I know he is a good guy who uses his plans to help rather than hinder. His only plans for world domination are in the business realm... and even that is intended to help us and others.
Anyway, I think INTJs are amazing. Ignore the stereotype and keep being your awesome self.
-an ENFP who also hates her own stereotype of never being able to finish a project, being irresponsible, being only rainbows and sunshine all the time, and being an airhead with nearly no depth. 🤦♀️
I’ve watched a lot of MBTI content, but this is the first time I’ve heard someone describe Ni so accurately yet expansively. Rings true for me as a fellow Ni dom :). Thanks for this video!
Thank you! I still feel like I didn't do the topic Justic 🙃
As an INFJ I legit assumed everyone just thought the same way I did, and that thus they would make bad choices on purpose. It took me a while to realize, some people do not have the natural ability to sit down and think everything through to the end, and do this over and over with all the possibilities. Or even be mean to someone, because they did not even realize that they were being hurtful, because they don't connect the dots of what that person said two weeks ago and what was on the news...
I feel like I do often change reality for people, but mostly by changing the way people think about things. Which in fact changes absolutely everything.
And yes to the forgetting which time-space-continuum I am on while on public transport. lol
It blew my mind as well the first time I realized that people don't think about decisions after what's in front of their own nose. I get you INFJ, keep leading humanity towards their best path ✊
This was so well done, I couldn't have put it better myself! I can't count the number of times I've felt like the only person seeing how the metaphorical bus is about to hit an oh so obvious wall, and for others to think I'm just being paranoid or making things up because they can't see the decision tree playing out that I saw two steps ago. It really can make you feel like this strange being that doesn't "belong" and has to put on a stage play to act like everyone else which can get lonely.
Also that Ni-Fi feedback loop is a good "real life" example of what the "cost" of having a super power is for having the ability of relative foresight. Like we can't predict the future, but we can certainly see more variables than most and where they lead, which helps if we have the influence to really steer the ship to try and point it to the best course. But the draw backs... oh boy... Not having enough info, Not knowing if the chosen path is really the "best" path or just the "easiest" path, the dreaded unknown-unknowns, so many things that can just mentally derail you at the most unexpected or worst of times. And that's before the negative loop of feedback kicks in where you can somehow manage to rationalize a miss as being your fault, even when there is realistically no way it could be, because of a spiderweb decision tree that you tracked back to a decision three months ago. 😅
I wouldn't trade being an INTJ for anything, because some of the funniest, greatest moments have been being able to see a plan play out perfectly as you predicted, and whether it was for the betterment of yourself and/or someone else, you called it. You saw the plan, and navigated it perfectly and it feels GREAT! But like all things it has it's drawbacks and we can truly turn into our own worst enemies and strongest critics. It makes it easier to shrug off when others may try to criticize, but only because there probably isn't anyone that can point out everything I feel I did wrong more than myself.
"t makes it easier to shrug off when others may try to criticize, but only because there probably isn't anyone that can point out everything I feel I did wrong more than myself." Bars bro, bars ✊
This brought me to tears at the end. It gets very poetic and beautiful. Then you say that about how the other parts of the Ni dom personality remind you of how you get visions into reality and make it a bit more like your visions. Thanks.
same 😭
Ni brings me to very beautiful places 😀
@@justcallmejon22 let it keep bringing you there
This is beautiful and so well-spoken. You have painted the most vivid Ni picture for me. It’s impossible for me to even begin to know how to describe Ni. You have to live it to know it. Thank you. THANK YOU. ❤
I'm happy to hear that the video was helpful and I hope you know that you're not alone my Ni sister ❤
This video is wonderful! Not only did you find a way to closely describe my reality, perception of the world and simply being, but, you do so from a humanistic/human be-ing perspective. You put a spin on the INTJ experience I've rarely found elsewhere (including textbooks & etc). So refreshing!
I'm really glad to hear that it's coming across that way 😀
Yes. Crazy. Narcissistic. Autistic... And- most people CANNOT understand. I have zero spontenaety. I can tell you every detail of my current project, but I cannot- absolutely would have to look to see- which underwear I have on or what I ate an hour ago.
It really does feel like we don't belong here. It feels like we were PUT here to do something- but with no clues as to what. And special roadblocks have been installed just to test us.
My entire existence is first in my head, even the smallest choices. It's exactly like you said. It's creating a predetermined end by "If this, then that". The beauty of free will is really just a riddle of consciousness and a lesson in managing our 6 degrees.
I'm not sure I'm lonely though. After years of pretending to care about the crap people find entertaining, funny, interesting, and so on.... it's nice to just be me. No more boring, dumbing down, seen as weird. Now if someone hates me, it isn't for no reason. I like it that way. Once convicted, you may as well benefit from the crime.
The Big Five (OCEAN) test is also very interesting. My scores for OCEAN correlate to my INTJ-T scores. A little scary like 0% agreeableness. But, still, very interesting.
As much as you appreciate us, we truly appreciate you as well.
I don't remember much about my Big Five score but I do remember that I scored 100% for Openness and relatively high for Neuroticism. Maybe that's why I'm so emotional in my videos 😂
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You bring tears to my eyes with your clear explanations.
Ditto 😢
This is my second recording of the video because I thought the first video was too emotional 🙃
INTJ - I noticed at a family dinner last night that I had so much Ni work done on a question I was asked that I had no idea how to condense it into an understandable form so I just explained the starting point of the thought which I was already lightyears away from.
Learning how to dumb things down took me decades to master and I feel like I still got a long way to go 😅
As an INFJ you put exactly how I feel into words. I haven’t been able to put this into words or express how I feel so clearly as you have in such a short video. Thank you for making this video-I really appreciate you sharing this with everyone. My heart goes out to you with how you feel, I’m sending you comforting vibes and it’s okay to feel how you feel. Because if you were any other type you wouldn’t be able to help INTJs and INFJs like you are now. The world would be a different place without you, you’re important and you are making a difference. Sending you good vibes.🌻
Thank you! So much Fe I'm not sure how to fully feel about it 🙃
Thank you for making this video! ✨️ I've been trying to find more information about this side of Ni to make sense of some of the things I've always experienced. Just recently, someone called me out on my lack of time awareness, being indecisive, and stressing over little things.
Even though...
I'm not stressing, I'm just processing.
I'm not indecisive, I just need more time to make a decision.
And time is... well, irrelevant. 😅
I am aware of losing time, and I am literally just existing. I get stuck in my mind... This one is probably the most detrimental to people and things in this reality. But for me, I don't feel as though the time was wasted. A lot can be processed during this time warp. 🤯
It's so hard to explain, and you did it really well! ✨️ I always knew my weird behaviors were because of Ni, but I don't know any other INTJs and a lot of my friends can't even open up to a conversation about this 'weird' stuff. It makes me feel so much better to know I'm not alone! 🙃
Also, this video was over in 2 mins. I had to watch it again cuz time flew by 🤣
I always wish there were 72 hours a day. I have the energy to do so but my tunnel focus is just like horses w eye pads 😂😂😂
You're never alone ✊
Your comment is EXACTLY where I am! I've been struggling for the past 1-2 yrs with losing time and "not getting anything done". I've even explained to coworkers that although it looks like I'm not doing anything, I really am. Once I've sized up whatever task/situation I go full force, nonstop til whatever outcome/goal is achieved.
I actually decided to just be my own boss and am now self employed and MUCH happier now that I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone.
I apologize for novella length comments. I'm just SO EXCITED to have found people I can relate to!!
Again, I give my thanks to everyone else who have contributed to this!
im an INFJ and yes i agree with you on Ni. I dont think theres a better way to explain Ni.
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🥺as much as I needed this…it HURT…but also, EVERYTHING!
Ni is lonely, but I promise you that you're not alone in that feeling ✊
you never disappoint with these vids! i wonder how many hours/days/weeks it took for you to actually narrate what being an Ni dom feels like. through out the video, it felt like you just clarified my whole life experience. thank you for the vids.
I always never had enough time!!! I need more 🤣🤣🤣
Most of my videos takes me about 2 weeks of thinking about from every perspective and how best to deliver the content. But this video and the rest of the videos on cognitive functions I've been thinking about since I started my channel 5 months ago 😅
'Walking down the street, passing by a million people but not remembering a single face'. Wait, other types remembering those faces? 😅
I swear my boy remembers the face of every lady that we walk by 😂
ISFJs remember.
Probably :-).
But they won't remember meaningful things.
Such a nice video! I guess its the first time I comment on a video, I’ve been binge watching this channel for a few days now 😅
I like the clarity of how you express our functions so much. We INTJs need time to mature properly and we’re usually late bloomers, but since we do, almost nothing can stop us. Sometimes I feel the burdens of Ni, it seems like I can’t ever relax or stop worrying about things, even on my free time my mind is working on something
You will get there. I am an ENTJ and I get passed that! You just need to be patient w yourself. That’s my personal experience.
I appreciate you commenting! I'm sure you have lots of knowledge that other INTJs would love to hear 😀
"Most of the time we can't engage with this function unless we out effort into it"
SO TRUE
It's a struggle 😅
I often say to my friends, "all I have to do is blink 7 times, and the year 2030 is now upon us," and they snicker at me because I offer that information in a comedic way. But it's technically true to me as an INTJ. We can get lost track of time.
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Yes this is how my 33 yr old self woke up suddenly one morning and found I was 75....
Thank you so much for sharing man. I’m an INFJ and you have made me cry a few times because I feel understood by you. Top video. Thanks for your understanding and your generosity in sharing with us. Truly means the world, in all it’s possible eventualities.
You're not alone my INFJ sibling, never forget that 🙂
INFJ here. this has to be the best Ni explanation i've seen so far. i'm utterly speechless, very well done!
Thank you 🙏
The reason why Ni is more real than the sensory because the sensory world can easily be manipulated and people of the sensory will just see things for the way they are while Ni doms will know somethings not right and after some time, they will make sense of what's really going on
It's crazy how we're one of the only type's out there that can see what you're saying. It's common sense to us but man it is not common sense to anyone else 😂
@@justcallmejon22 It's not common sense, Ni isn't common😂. When I learned social skills because I never used to fit in, I went from someone who is misunderstood (reactive) to a leader of any group, being so popular and having them believe in anything I want them to (proactive after studying humans) but I'm an INFJ. As an Ni user or alien, it's either you don't fit in or be the most popular. There's no in between because we are not normal, we either outcasts or "gods"
@@ghostridda - I can't do that ― but that's probably mostly because my parents moved me to another country when I was a child; one that is inappropriate for me. But I have other plans for the World.
Im an INFJ and this is insanely true. Great job telling it how it is
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I don't believe in good or bad, only cause and affect. If I lived your life, in your shell, I will be standing exactly where you are right now. Destiny (future) is written by the past.
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Thank you Jon. My brain felt like it just got a hug. It can be so much fun just to do deep dives in our heads, but the present, physical reality hits us at the same time. Sometimes my brain just goes so fast in so many directions, just to realize I have not moved my physical body or sometimes even forget to breathe. It can be so difficult to be around friends who always want to "live in the moment" so I get drained. I've often voiced out things I thought that will happen and most of the time the outcome that I've said, whether good or bad, ends up happening. However, it does get lonely at times when you know you always try to understand others but no one really gets you or tries to understand you.
The fact that we cannot turn it off makes me wish there was a pill that shuts off my brain's intuition. But I also don't want to lose this ability and would not think I'm better off without it. It really is a PARADOX.
I understand the feeling of wanting to turn Ni off so I definitely empathize with your comment. It really is a paradox because Ni is really what makes us unique and sometimes I wonder what/who I would be if I didn't have Ni. Always fun to imagine but it's usually a lesser version of my real self 🙃
The losing track of time bit is definitely true, I started writing a journal and sometimes I just forget to write in it and one time I thought that it was just one day I missed, but in reality it was 3 days that just because it was the holidays and I didn't have a set schedule for doing certain things I just got lost in thought for days and it's not like I just thought the whole time I was writing poems watching RUclips and Netflix for hours and played Badminton and went outside in that time but the only thing that remained was thought a eairy feeling of what I thought a blurry memory of the scenarios and possible outcomes that I thought of. They do still help me make decision because my opinions and thought about people change through them but it's just really scary noticing that cometimes my view of a person completely shifts without me even rembering why but just feeling like I made a good and logical decision to feel and think a certain way without knowing why I do so. It's honestly frightening and doesn't make sense for people without Ni but it makes sense to me somehow. I do find myself sometimes remembering those kinds of thoughts through my poems but I still can't remember how I came to some of the conclusions I came to just that I think they're correct.
Does reality really exist?! 😂
I’ve never ever ever ever.. felt so seen. This video is invaluable. I’ve already shared it twice and I’m about to watch it again. THANK YOU!!! -infj
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Great video! I sent it to my INTJ friend to explain how her cognitive functions work (I wasn't very good at explaining them, since Ni is very foreign to me as an INFP).
The only point I disagree with you on is the idea that feeling doms automatically have people who will empathize or understand them. I think that feeler-sensors might have this experience, but feeler-intuitives have a similar experience that Inutitive doms like INFJ and INTJ have. Because INFP's have Fi first and Ne second, also get lost in our own world, especially surrounding feelings, past experiences, and the potential of people and society. We don't feel like we belong to the world, only having Te as our tether to physical reality - our weakest function. We have a hard time explaining ourselves and our decisions to other people, etc., etc. Our Fi is so strong and so nuanced, that we often feel like no one can understand how we actually feel in all its complexity (despite our best efforts), so we more often just keep things to ourselves. Our Ne dreams feel so far out of reach, and we get frustrated with ourselves for not being able to "do" things the same way Te doms or aux can. It can be a very lonely existence, and probably why INFP's tend to feel a lot of depression in life (and our Fi let's us know right away that its depression).
All this to say, you're not alone INTJ's and INFJ's. We INFP's, ENFP's, and ENFJ's feel you. Let's keep exploring the colourful, vibrant, starlit wonders of Intuition together and bring them into the sun. The world needs people who can ❤❤
I hope my video helps your friend understand Ni a bit better! I agree that INFPs have just as difficult of a time (if not more) than INTJs when it comes down to being part of reality. I believe all introverted types feel that way, it's just different. What I noticed is that INFPs are more appreciated in society i.e have more friends, invited to more gathering, are talked in a more positive manner outside of the MBTI community that thinks all you guys do is go into a corner an cry all day. INFPs, ENFPs, and ENFJs are some of the best ❤
@@justcallmejon22 Hi Jon, thanks for your reply! You last comment made me laugh so hard lol
I understand more of what you mean now. Yes, I find that feelers, in general, tend to be thought of more positively in society and more actively included in social situations (though often times it feels superficial). Thinkers have a much harder time being part of the social atmosphere of society, often being harshly judged as antisocial or not needing people at all (which is absolutely not true).
Having healthy types describe their unique experiences and challenges, like you and your channel, really helps to bridge the gap and clarify the misunderstandings and toxic misinformation out there in the MBTI community. Like the stupid ignorant ideas that INTJ's are heartless robots or INFP's are weak crybabies.
Keep up the good work!
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I was recently feeling empty and dejected, not knowing the root cause of it, or why i am feeling such emotions. Then you make this video about Ni, and suddenly it all makes sense to me. These feelings occurs seldomly throughout my life, and i never knew all along.
Thank you for always making videos like these, where we can better understand ourselves
You're never alone ✊
I almost cried at the end. I see you and i feel you my fellow. I know that world you are in.
Infj.
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I love how you explain the NI. You totally get me, it’s like you took a trip in my head. Lol. I only found out I’m an INFJ a few years ago. This is the first time I’ve heard someone verbalize the real life process in such a down to earth way. Video is totally awesome, examples are easy for me to follow and fun to listen to.
I'm happy to hear that you found MBTI! It really does provide clarity on topics that aren't normally discussed 🙃
Ni is Lonely, until I was like 18 I legit thought I wouldn’t be able to be open with anyone about my mind (having SF parents), when I was in my early teens I found a niche video game series that just screamed Ni, with a ton of deep elements and lots to think about, turns out the creator was an INTJ which I didn’t find out till years later, it was something that felt like it actually appealed to me and not the typical sensor appealing content that honestly makes life feel pointless to me sometimes, then I met an intp which at the time I wasn’t that into MBTI so I didn’t know right away l, it wasn’t perfect ofc but compared to anyone else I knew I definitely could be more of myself with them. Now that I know about the cognitive functions and seen new communities I know that well at least there are others somewhat like me and those who can vibe with me. I think being able to express Ni can be done most closely through creation, I never been the artistic type as I been a more math and science kid growing up tho I found art neat, so using my more technical side to create things I decided that I want to create video games one day to express Ni, I would have to better my music composition skills and my art skills still but it’s a nice thing to work towards too. I majored in Computer Engineering and i also like creating robots and the creativity and logic that goes into starting from a thought concept and making it a reality from utilizing what I learned. So I am happy I chose that major (also helped with my programming skills for video games). Now I am working toward stability and then being able to express Ni by making video games as a hobby.
I'm glad to hear that you found your way! What's the title of that game btw that you mentioned early in your comment?
Name of the video game series?
Definitely agree that the rest of our functions 'support' Ni to make our dreams into reality but it is also important to remember that dreams don't have to be big or grand. When we're off in our Ni world it may look to an outsider like day-dreaming. But quantum mechanics (through entanglement, observation, and entrainment) provides explanation how our focused intent does, in fact, create the future. I may not *consciously* know that I'm sorting variables and creating a desired outcome but I've lost count of instances of deja vu in my life and it is not deja vu of something from my past that I've forgotten and reexperiencing; it's physically experiencing for the first time something that I intuitively experienced in the past.
Well said my brotha ✊
INFJ here - I have been blessed with a great INTJ brother, who can tell me when it is time and okay to stop feeling/caring so much! Also with a great ENFJ best friend, who can use her energy to deal with the crazies out there!
I'm sure your brother and best friend are just as happy to have you in their lives 😊
This is the best video on Ni I have ever seen. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏
Ni dom here and just wand to say, "I loved your video and thanks for being real."
You're welcome ❤
Since i don't use Ni i needed to do a bit more with my imagination to truly understand what's going on here... Ni is like converging and Ne is like- diverging... you just gave me Sherlock Holmes feel there. It feels like my Ne only delivers variables and only that which tells what can happen rather than what might happen.... Ni way of narrowing down the possibilities is very awesome. And the manipulation part? Well no wonder why you guys are called Strategists....... INTJ living in future is somewhat like INFP living in our head... so i can’t relate with the practicality of it but i do know the "losing the track of time" part.... and i think i don't know how the reality Ni create looks like but i know the imagination of an INFP and it's beautiful- and i think the satisfaction i get from it is something Ni dom might feel but then comes the uncontrollable factors... while i think it was quite easy for me to believe that i can’t do anything to flip it INTJ might actually feel like... like if they had all the chess pieces in their hands things could have different- better. I think imagination is the only thread keeping me connected with your words (and world) being an Fi i always things in a depth words can’t fathom.. it feels like there is no way of actual expression and eventually the will to express dies. And we feel like our emotions is our own to deal with.. in that sense i feel lonely so yeah "i don't exactly know how but i can correlate"
I would never dare say that INTJ are overthinking if you put it like that (even if you don’t i am the last person to have the right to say that). I think sometimes it’s better to live in your head but you guys have the potential to make it a reality and salute you for that very quality!❤❤
You're doing a fantastic job of relating to Ni-doms! Everything is really just in our head and similar to how Fi-doms are able to access emotions that most people can't fathom, Ni users imagine realities that most people will never be aware of. It's a bittersweet feeling but the beauty of being an INTJ is that we'll never stop trying to create the reality that we believe to be the best for ourselves or the ones we love 🙂
@justcallmejon22I think i get that "bittersweet" and it is kind of poetic of you to say that "people will never be aware of" .... you guys are trying to narrow down stuff to the point where your utopia may come in existence..... I kind of can imagine it because when i see tiny conflicts , any heated arguement- whatever that exist can be adjusted through a bit more.. understanding? here and there.. but that always ends with, "if they would try to understand"... my cousin told me i can adjust with people who, let's say, are pessimistic and "endure" it well.... point is i just empathize with what's going on in their heads and there is never an "altercation that leads to divisions " or whatever... the harmonious environment that i envision- "if they would think that way" is kind of like yours "if they would do that way" as i comprehend it- like you guys might manipulate and make it happen but even you guys can't control each variable... but like you said we would never stop and may we never stop.
thanks jon, that's feeling i feeled all my life, thanks to internet, i found my tribe, i'm so happy that i am not crazy nor i am alone. we intj exist, and we experience life same way. keep up friend
Welcome home, you're always welcomed here 🙂
Everything you said resonated with me and I didn't even realize this is how I actually felt, until I listened to you💀
Welcome to the Matrix. It's not bad here and it is calming being around like-minded people 🙂
@@justcallmejon22 Yep I agree on that. In the video, you said we are called crazy and stuff. But I can only speak for myself, my imagination is a pure reality(just like you) and I also acknowledge the cruel reality outside it. And yet, people in my life dont care to listen and call me innocent and naive. And nothing hurts more than being seen that way. I felt my heart ache when you said your world is one where it's everything you believe in, is true.
INFJ here… untill now I didn’t know about the other personalities thank you for introducing me to the I NTJ! Where can I meet one? LOL #ForReal
There's 16 in total, go collect them all 😂
As an INFJ, this is the single most resonant description of that function I have heard. Every point was so exact. It feels just like that. People will refer others to me for life advice, but others often resent the suggestion. I noticed early on those people willing to listen to try the things I suggested ended up happier and closer to their goals because I listen to what they want for themselves and envision the steps that will move them toward that outcome. I think of my capacity to do this like chess, that idea in "Searching for Bobby Fisher" of thinking twelve moves ahead.
Trying to explain all of the steps and considerations that went into the suggestion would wear the listener out long before I finished.
and most of the time, we're not even sure ourselves how we arrived to our conclusions! INTJs understand your Ni very well INFJ and it really is a refreshing feeling when we meet another Ni dom. Keep helping people INFJ, INTJs will continue to try to fix the system while you guys continue to heal the world. ✊
Thank you! This is the best description of Ni I've found so far, and I've done a lot of searching. At one point, you mentioned Ne as being similar, and yes, as an ENFP, Ne gets it. We're aliens from yet another planet. Also, personally, I think my time lapses are generally shorter than those of Ni users, with a much broader range of possibilities, but they don't go anywhere near as deep.
I definitely seen Ne get lost multiple times in one conversation. Sometimes I know I'm just talking to your shell but I know that you'll be back soon 😂
@@justcallmejon22 Talking to the shell is fine. Once it's finished, I can usually play back whatever was said during that time lapse, and then respond to it. Maybe a benefit of Ne being external, one of the possibilities I'm seeing is reality where you're talking. Or.. I'm not sure how it works, maybe it is just a part of Ne, but I seem to have some form of parallel processing. I was observing myself reading a book the other day because I was curious about what I was doing when I was reading, where my eyes were focusing, whether I was reading line by line, etc., so I.. split my focus somehow and observed myself. I tried to comment on it to a family member as I was doing it, though, and my words came out as garbage, so that was just too much. 😆
Best explanation for Ni-Ti loops, it's so frustrating because we know that we're overthinking it but can't help it and hold ourselves back. Also, drugs/alcohol to be present..yup lol.
I don't know how INFJs function without Te. I actually have more respect for you guys when you get stuff done knowing how difficult it is to get motivated or just to start 😂
Inspirational, made me wanna cry. It's a blessing and a curse. Life is fair after all~
You're not alone ✊
one thing i’ve never heard said is that Ni, for me at least, is drug like. It’s a coping mechanism. It has positives. But it’s also an escape hatch.
That's an interesting take. Since I can't imagine life without Ni, it feels like sobriety to me 😂
I can't even express how much I am grateful for this video 🙏 it's like you read my mind. I always thought that being like this was a blessing and a curse. Lonely and misunderstood but never bored in my head. Wow, my favourite director is Nolan too😊 yes, I lost tracks of how many times I missed my spot or didn't remember how I got to the place or something like that. So agree about the reason behind this constant questioning. Moreover, I am so in love with multiple universe theory just because I live in it every moment of my life. Thank you again for this! It really helped me feel less like a lunatic
I know Nolan is an INxJ because time doesn't exist in most of his videos and I love it! It's so abstract and it's always interesting hearing my Sensor friends provide their opinions about the movie because then I realize that what's obvious for us goes over their head. He is a treasure for us Ni types 😁
Good video. Yes it’s very lonely. We can see what others can’t.
It's a sad reality, but I'm used to it now 😊
This is great video. Never felt more understood. It's just hard to explain how your mind works. You get deeper and deeper, like living on a trance all the time. I had phases too when I hoped I could get myself out of slump. Getting over things easily as it is. Getting comfortable when things don't go as planned (years planning). Getting stuck into Ni-Ti over and over when I thought I was right and things still go wrong and it ended up changing people dynamics, destroyed relationships. It's ripple effect in your mind and you will feel responsible for knowing but powerless to prevent it. It sucks. Heck it sucks! Sometimes I wish I do not know. Sometimes I wish I don't see. It's too hard for us to be honest with ourselves, because we question whether it's appropriate, and we hold other people to Fe expectations too, but this time Fi being subtle and not overwhelming is comforting. I'm over emotional consolation, I need things to make sense why it happens for real. I hate the feeling of just accepting things falling apart and having no power to change it.
Thank you for sharing your story, I'm sure there are many other there that can relate. Feeling powerless as your described it is probably one of the worst feelings because it cascades into us examinaing our capabilities and everything else that's involved in it. I will say that I will never give up Ni if I had the chance because I made peace with it a long time ago and have accepted that there will always be pros and cons and life is all about balance. Good luck on your jouney INFJ, you got this ✊
I like how you said we do not have the ability to build a new future but have the ability to build toward a new future given a current status of things. It is so true, I am not creative in the way of making but in the way of remaking. System inputs are needed before for something new can come forth. It is a great gift and It is also a curse because we can see the underline issue but at the same time realize it can never be changed. That is why we change careers and life directions so drastically. It also prevents us from trying things and allowing the probability to operate. Those without Ni just open the box not worrying if the cat is dead or alive. We never open the box because we cant control or see all the variables in the box.
I didn't realize that changing career is such an xNTJ thing until after I started doing research. It still amazes how oddly specific typology is and all the similarities there are just from 4 letters.
thank you for this video, as an intj i have been thinking a lot about these things but not able to describe them or understand them. i find one quote from doctor who a really good insight to how we think and process. "I don't have a ton of plans, i just haft to chose one.
Ni vs Ne in a nutshell 😂
As an infj, Ive never felt so understood. thank you for taking the time to passionately explain what ni is like and how it effects our lives in the long run. what you said at the end of all the other functions coming together to help ni achieve its goal/vision is so true and eye opening. I've always felt that way but was never aware of it. its like discovering your purpose and putting the pieces together for the first time.
Always glad to hear that my video is helpful! You're not alone in the 'alone' feeling my Ni-dom family, we'll get through this thing called 'life' together 🙂
As an infp I am becoming more and more fascinated by the Ni. This video was very touching. People can really have their own unique sets of challenges they face and you may never even know about it or ever fully understand them cause they're so difficult to describe. I have the same with Fi. Still haven't managed to find an explanation that expresses it in it's fullness. But you have a great talent at explaining these concepts and I'm sure you make a lot of people feel seen. I also had it with your video about why intjs love infps. It's rare feeling so seen so thank you!
I'm happy to hear that you're enjoying my content and I hope to understand my Fi as much as an INFP one day. I appreciate you guys for helping me get closer to that dream 🙏
It feels like living lifetimes and across time. Seeing without and within surface presentations. My self from the future extending my hand to the now. Intense connection. Insatiable appetite for understanding. Cracking codes. Surrounded by metaphor. Frequent revelation. Sometimes it’s as if I have to fight hard to stay grounded in reality or else I’ll float too far away to come home, becoming a vessel for prophecy. It’s scary. It’s overwhelming. It’s overwhelmingly beautiful.
All of that and I have common problems that demand to be tended to. It becomes a balancing act. I am like glue holding systems and relationships together.
I interact with the world hiding my integral self while leaving bread crumbs for those that I sense might live with the same gift. The same burden.
Thanks for the video and the channel, in general. You’re really one of the best and I’m excited for your future. (:
I appreciate the kind words and the support. I enjoyed your comment, it was very poetic 🙏
Oh my god! When you gave the examples I literally have done most of not all of these. At the gym I’m constantly losing track of how many sets I’ve done. Or miss count the reps in my current set. Even when I’m physically exerting to the limit I’m in my head.
I think this is the first person on on youtube, podcasts, or even blogs to accurately describe Ni in a way that resonated with me. It almost makes me feel like all the others that describe this and claim to be Ni probably aren't, especially INFJs.
Thanks man 🙏
I just want to say, this is the best video I've seen on this topic. It's like you're in my brain. It feels good to finally have someone get it, well done!
I'm glad you enjoyed it ✊
(infj)I appreciate this video so much. I'm doing a lot of healing work right now and even those that are willing to sit and talk with me about this path just can't really engage in a way that feels like they understand it in the way i do now after 10mo of research, regaining memories, seeing the roots of current issues, anything where somatic work is key for me, etc. i come bk to this video every once in a while kind of for validation that i don't just "think wrong" or "too much/deep" on topics of personal importance. I get a lot of ppl say i "go off on rabbit trails" as well but it's when they dont lete finish weaving the tapestry of the info I'm conveying. It isn't the Ne rabbit trails, it is all focused on making the bigger, universal point. I heard you and Joyce talk about this one time. I have a friend that never actually makes a point or replies to something ive asked by replying in that way (not dissing Ne at all, pretty jelly of it actually, just not in this particular aspect). Anyway thx for making the human side of Ni so viceral. Maybe I'll talk some ppl into listening to it one day and being a bit more patient when i ask questions so that i can complete the assigned task instead of getting caught up trying to not mess it up having less info than needed to feel confident moving forward.
You're not alone in that feeling and I do feel for INFJs since you have Fe and are seeking that companionship. I hope you find someone soon that will listen and validate your feelings. Those people are out there, you just have to find them ❤
“There are days I wish I wasn’t an intj” hit home.
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As an INTJ, I can see you have a very similar desk lamp as me. The difference is mine was made in West Germany, some 40 years ago, and got restored by me a couple of years ago.
Your lamp sounds like it has a lot of history behind it, which is cool!
You have pinpointed exactly what goes on in my mind every day.
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accurate.
>> The time when we are most present, is when we build the future.
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It works just like that.
How many people we know finally get that we do this and come to us for a particular “strategy”. It’s absolutely incredible how often I was in these types of conversations.
Very easy to understand! Typically, I have to seriously concentrate on videos to comprehend... this. Well done!
Glad it was helpful! 🙂
Sometimes I don't even feel like Ne is described as well as it could be and it's my own second function! Even having it myself, it took a while to realize the similarity to Se and just how *in the moment* Ne is despite the fact that it leads to so much daydreaming and physical obliviousness. So, thanks for this since Ni is something I really can't imagine as well! Even Si is easier to describe for me because it's the fun file cabinet where I pull out facts, examples, and experiences that I can then play like cards in a Magic: The Gathering or Yu-Gi-Oh game to play in a given situation.
I plan on making a video on Ne eventually but I will say that it's still difficult for me to ELI5. Personally, I can see it but can't put it in words yet 😆
@@justcallmejon22 I think the idea of a “disembodied” Se that sees or hears a thing and immediately plays free association or opens the Si drawer to grab other comparisons may help. It’s just that you go from stimulus to internal rabbit hole instead of from stimulus to external sensory response.
@@justcallmejon22 And just to make things even more fun for you, imagine Ne and Te running simultaneously. This probably explains one of the ways that sometimes my mom (ESTJ) and I can get on my ENTJ dad’s nerves. 🤣 Ne+Te will snap out a response REALLY fast.
(Though it offers an interesting perspective for me in that in my mom, an extremely well balanced ESTJ with all four functions really honed, I get to watch the same functions I have run in reverse in her. We’ll be chatting and while she’s quite logical, she’ll make the same kind of sudden “sideways slip” that leads to a really unexpected joke or some shift to a new topic that my dad finds completely illogical but makes perfect sense to us. People think ESTJs are hidebound but MAN can an ENTJ be relentlessly linear in their thinking to a fault! 🤣)
I thought I was low IQ for years, because of all the Ni things you described after 9:00 mark. Both my parents were sensors. It took years to figure out my strengths.
If it makes you feel any better, I still think I'm low IQ 🙃
What a lovely description of your NI. Pure, which by the refinement of all your values, you arrive at. Which is what I and a friend INTJ do. Perfect.
I hope you're able to bring your Ni to reality one day 🙂
damn , I am an INFP with a really high Ni, and this is so relatable . that did hit hard
You're not alone brother ✊
Something that I kind of realized lately, and it's the reason why I got really addicted to eating edibles, is that for Ni doms, typically speaking, when we get high, it's a lot easier for us to get into our bodies and out of our heads. It's almost as if though THC brings us down to Earth. Whereas for pretty much everyone else, they enter our realm of being in their heads and out of their bodies. And this realization is what lead to me understand why I could never relate to when people would say they feel a head high when on edibles or while smoking. It's also the reason why I get so paranoid if I have too much. I'm more aware of myself and my surroundings when typically I'm very unaware. I suddenly feel so alive. And when you're not used to that, it can be very scary.
I said something similar in another video where taking substances makes me feel more human. I've been wanting to make an educational video about susbstance use and you stating it makes me consider making it more ✊
You just romanticized Ni to me, and I feel as though I do get it.
I’m INFP. I’ve taken a test that says I’m high Fi and high Fe as well as high Ne and high Ni. Ofc, highest in Fi and Ne. No idea how effective and accurate that test is, though.
But I was just thinking minutes before I watched this video how I can see the future based on enough variables. I can make often quick predictions based on certain variables and see imagery in my mind’s eye how it would play out.
And I relate to asking questions to understand my variables to draw an outcome.
I often get sad about my relationship I had with my ex-bf because I could see how happy and fulfilled we would have been had he not done certain things out of insecurity. It plays like a movie. Staying would have enabled him to just abuse my forgiveness as I wouldn’t be able to uphold boundaries because he couldn’t respect them. So my only option was to leave and abandon us because his poor choices made it impossible to peacefully coexist.
I’m so curious to deep-dive this Ni.
I'm sad to hear about your relationship not working out but I'm happy to hear that you're sticking to the bounderies that you set for yourself. I made a deep dive video on Ni so take a look if you haven't seen it yet, it should provide more insights on what it means to have Ni: ruclips.net/video/Lg5xW8S9RsA/видео.html
The more I listen to you; the more I learn. Even tho, I'm an INFJ and not a INTJ. It surprises me and delights me how you get in on a deep level to concepts and issues. Your talking about you wish you could project the world in your mind as it is. I think ours would be alike except you would show a more logical scene and I would show a more emotional/feeling scene. You put into words so succinctly, exactly how I do things. I love that you put it out there like this for me to analyze and store away.
I'm happy to hear that you're enjoying the videos! It's difficult to explain what my internal world is but it's always nice to hear from other people that they have their own world as well that they care about ✊
Great video. Great Channel. As an INTJ, every word you say just make me feel "seen". I feel so misunderstood and alien to the many spheres I interact with. In fact, I have to create different personas to make interactions easy. It is exhausting and I always hurry back to my "world" as soon as I can.
You're not alone in that feeling and people who understand are out there, we're just hard to find 😅
This is so true for me! Abstract and poetic ! I feel understood finally. Thank you
I'm happy to hear that you feel understood ❤
I love all your videos. Haven’t consumed MBTI content in like 10 years and this is so refreshing and really opening my mind and reminding me of aspects of myself and helping me understand more deeply and it’s so comforting and also gives me
More confidence and reassurance
Thank you for letting me know. I really do appreciate the support 🙏
I’m an INTJ (though I think nobody including myself should be confident saying that) and having Ni is extremely less cool and complicated as you make it out to be. We don’t want to expand our intuition. So much so that Ni often just sticks to one prediction and does the most it can to make it happen. Ni definitely doesn’t look through every possibility, it is a waste of time to do so.
How do you know you're making the optimal decision if you're not looking at all possible likely conclusions?
Im an INTJ (though I think nobody including myself should be confident saying that) and this is just wrong bro.
Jon already handled you, but I'll bite.
INTJ's respect data. You should know this. Ni deals with a meta perspective. Data and perspectives are constantly shifting... Ni hates uncertainty. You saying it doesn't look at (consider is a better term to use here) other possibilities and that it's a waste of time is just false and reeks of ignorance. INJ's are some of the most paranoid fellas out there. Expanding ones intuition will bring a more holistic perspective; thus reducing uncertainty. You need to get educated before you try to shut someone else down.
When the Te, Fi, and Se pick up the Ni, then the magic begins. Very well versed. Thank you for the video!
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very iNformative, thank you
You said it Jon! This is a simulation and we don't belong here. This isn't home for any of us. Unfortunately only a few of us truly know that bc we know how to pull our minds out of our bodies and observe.
Love you❤
I am trying to type my friend who i always believed is an intj because he is always obsessed with things like religion topics, what is the end of the world, etc. And he had mentioned that he is aware of things that people don't usually see and he talks about how he feels like an outcast in this world. Yesterday, I briefly told him about MBTI. He said he have done those tests and the result was istj, so I asked him questions about Ni, saying do you sometimes see some kind of 'image' in your head? But he said no, he said he is not imaginative. And I asked do you like to keep traditions or do new things? And for that he say he likes to keep things moving.
He also has this tendency to pay relatively little attention to the environment surrounding him. He mentioned before he don't understand the joy in just eating good food, shopping etc (basically sensory activities). However he's profession is Music.
I'm like super confused now 😂😭😵💫 Is he a intj or istj?
ISTJ and INTJ look very similar on the outside because we share the same two middle cognitive functions in the same order. Learn more about the difference between Ni and Si and it should become clear. It's not about thinking about the future persay, it's more the process we take to arrive to our conclusion because Si users do consider the future and Ni users do care about certain traditions. We both have Te as our second function so efficiency in food and tradition in doing certain things are important to us because it's the most efficient. Good luck on your journey in typing him ✊
INTJ here....one time I was so stuck in my head that when I acknowledged that I can't ignore my need to use the restroom any longer and got up I was shocked to see my legs. I laughed at myself for forgetting that I am a human or something
That was last week, wasn't it 😉
INFJ here - YES! I am constantly calculating and flashing scenes in my mind instantly, simultaneously, and nonstop while asking questions to understand and refine the model and end up on target. I also seed ideas in people and move things by helping people to get to the conclusion/next step on their own (I.e., it becomes their idea). I’m embarrassed to say that it’s almost like I can see the future and change it by doing this (for good). I tend to speak in metaphor and parallels, but people often understand that, see the relevance, and learn from it. Generally though, it’s a hard way to go through life. However, I get you - you described it well. Great job here on an impossible topic - thanks.
Thank you! It really is a difficult topic and I still feel like I'm missing a lot but I'm happy that it's out and that people can resonate with it.
I’m glad I’m not alone. Reading the comments makes me realize I’m not alone.
Thank you for this video. It's really hard to describe what is going on in my head most of the times... and I don't know whether everyone understands your explanation, but I feel well represented... and the Ni Fi loop during Covid was horrible because there were so many things we couldn't change and the outcome was mostly grim.
Thank you and you're not alone in that feeling, my friend 🙂
Jon, I feel like you are one of the few people who was ever understood what means to be me. Until an INTP friend of mind convinced me to look into MBTI (recently)I always felt something was wrong with me (but never knew why) and tried to adjust/ blend into the rest of the humans. Many people could understand a part of me but never the whole picture. After watching your videos I realize that I am a fellow alien and understand why I feel so out of place in at least one aspect with everyone. You content has helped me understand, self correct, and double down on who I am. 👽 Thank you and keep creating this top tier content.
Thank you for commenting and I'm happy to hear that I helped you understand yourself a bit better! Us INTJs will never fully be understood but that doesn't matter because we're going to accomplish so much in our lifetime. Chin up INTJ, you got this ✊
This is really one of the best videos explaining Ni that I’ve seen. How we just see the time disappear because we are thinking about something, not living in the present moment, this is very accurate.
I don’t know about other INTJs but I really avoid any substances, Drugs or alcool or smoking etc because of the fear of being addicted to them, because I know they could give me a fake sense of being present and shutting up my brain.
I have an obsession about learning so I prefer avoiding anything that is negative. For me, the only time i’ve ever feel present is when I work with my body and brain (cf Ido Portal movement practice) but also Brazilian jiujitsu. It forces me to use my senses and my problem solving skills and I can get a glimpse of being present.
I guess it’s my healthy obsession.
I'm an INTJ and I love substances! I'm not afraid of getting addicted but I am more afraid of not being able to understand something out of fear. So if it's safe for myself and other people, why not give it a try has always been my model 🙃
Jooon, that was so deep! I appreciate that you appreciate that we watch your videos. I feel grateful that I get the chance to learn about Ni so I can understand my friend more. I think it’s very interesting. I’m grateful. Thanks Jon. -ENFP
Always happy to hear that my videos are making a difference 😊
Introverted Thinking makes us aware of a situation's many variables. When we use it, we recognize our power, as individuals, to exploit some variables at the expense of others to exert some effect on its logical outcome.
And it helps to recognize, in the midst of action, which variables are best taken into account and which are irrelevant to our goal.
I think it could work well with Ni which is good at predicting the ouctome when changing one variable in a situation 🤔
Ti & Ni pairing is easily one of the strongest pairing if we're both motivated ✊
Hi, I really enjoy your content. I’ve realised to help some people you must adjust your approach. Most people won’t take on good advice directly but if you “plant the seed” or allow them to “join the dots” lets them come to the same conclusion, it’s very effective.
What seems to be very obvious to me isn’t always for everyone else.
I’m glad I’m not alone with my different way of thinking.
INTJ-A fan from New Zealand
Kia Ora, I really appreciate the support! It really is amazing that most Ni doms arrived to the same conclusion independently that incepting ideas to another person is one of the most effective ways to influence others. Keep using your skills for good fellow INTJ ✊
@@justcallmejon22 Thank you for the reply, it must take you a-lot of time to give personal replies. Not doubt it’s creating a community.
I recently saw a thread on INTJ’s asking about when your intuition has saved you or someone else in some way. Could be an interesting video idea with more interesting comments to follow?
Keep up the great work 🤜
What you said about how we feel about time and reality is sooo accurate that it makes me cry! That's exactly how "out-of-touch" I feel I am.
And I also have been called not crazy but weird by people. And yes, it happens when people are not trying to understand life from other people's point of views.
Thank you so much for this video, Jon. ✨
As an Ne dom, I've gotten the "weird" label my entire life, as well. I never understood why. Now I know it is because my intuition is on autopilot and people can't experience my imagination. That makes so much sense!
-ENFP