The Joker why would you feel insulted if she meant it in a good way? Even if she meant it in a bad way at least she liked you before she heard the fan theory, Joker. Edit: For clarification, the guy above me had the channel name "The Joker" before he must've changed it to King Tomato. So before It was one if those things where someone pretends to be a fictional character and everyone else goes along with it. That's the context you need for my comment..
When the Joker says that there's a "fine line" between a clown and a mass murderer, he's not just making a dark joke; he's literally saying that a clown and a (fictional) mass murderer both serve the same purpose. A clown tells jokes, does magic tricks, and makes balloon animals; he makes people laugh and cheer. Their purpose is to entertain. A comic book villain creates a foil for the hero, providing them obstacles and challenges to overcome. They create suspense and excitement. Their purpose is to entertain. from the perspective that The Joker knows he's fictional, when he says a clown is no different from a super villain, he means that literally.
His trying to tell you that the real world we live in is fake .. And you are a fictinal character in this world. Your name in all capital letters in your ID and social security are your fictional characters made to punish you and decive you into thinking they have power over you is call the (straw man.)He a clown because once you find out thus world lie to you you feel like a clown a joke to this fake world.. He is tje real hero trying to save the world from evil that control with lies. Is real life shit but is way to crazy to be real ..thats why he reasures u he is not crazy.. They always try to make you feel like is you thats crazy but hes way to smart. He figure out the great decit the bible speaks at the end of time will happen.. The goverments and laws are a lie and a fake.. Liars and sceamers .
Manuel Hernandez: Sovereign Citizens Fail videos are the funniest stuff on RUclips 😂 Idiot: no officer im not transporting goods so you have no authority over me. Cop: takes him to jail Me: AHAHAHAAHHHAHAAAHAHAAA!!!
@@MP-db9sw i love to show them how pathetic their attempt to control me fall short in the precense of my greatness...they skeamers with codes ,they will fall off at the first sight of troble (me).Learn from the best sovereign Lord the joker by listening to his words and his ways in this movie .. Listen to cops when speaking about him when he is in jail ,for it is the way to beat any case in criminal law .you waste your time by arguing with a public servant over law , their job is to turn you into cash .. Your soveranity shines in court where you can't be ignore or and your soveranity shines so much you get to see how they fear you. Good cop bad cop is the most famous trick known and even you will agree they use. Wanna see how wierd yhe world you live in really is ,do as i did as be surprised . get pull over ignore them .. They have info from plates no need to speak if they breake their oath to serve and protect by hold and punish .. Do as the joker .. Dont agree or put your name in anything in jail (contracts) Dont awnser to questions insted ask questions. When ask for name or allias give them nothing . no adress no name no alias no contracts or signitures u can take it as far as the joker and use no name brands on the clothes by getting Taylor fit and made and guess what no case .. They will give you hell but once in court if they dare to go that far thats where you see your soveranity shines and they will fold and drop the case or win it and write your name on their book of codes and statues they use as law and achieve greatness.. Soveranity comes from God . to claim sovereign citizens is to claim citizen of Gods kingdom and Gods kingdom (God has no rules and we are under his grace not under law)so you will be respected in court, i can defeat law with out saying a word . Law is hard and cruel so we do not dare to go against but reather because we do not dare to go against law is why they hard and cruel...the joker is the dark night and holds the sword(word) of God
This is why at the end of the new movie, when the therapist asks what's so funny, he tells her she wouldn't get it, and he starts singing with the music
@Alix98x if you actually thought Joker was an awful movie than you are a moron and clearly too stupid to understand an amazing film when you see it. Im guessing youre a child
This theory gives an imfamous death new context. When Jason Todd as Robin was introduced not many people like him. He was claimed to be a Dick Grayson Copycat. So DC posted a poll to decide what they should do, keep him or kill him. After the poll was decided, A Death in the Family was released, and you know who killed off Jason? That’s right, the clown himself. Knowing that his fans weren’t pleased with Jason, the joker took the liberty of doing what the fans wanted, killing the boy wonder.
I know this is six months later, but anyway... It wasn't just the fact that he was a nearly exact clone of Dick Grayson in terms of circumstances, it was also what happened when writers realized this and tried to fix this. The result was an unlikable, violent mess that was 180 degrees turn from what he was before. Now people had problems with him being a robin-clone, but this? No one was asking for a violent, kill happy, disrespectful to Batman anti-hero who just turned people off. In some respects, it could even be called a mercy killing.
@@kelvinphillips7140 I really wish I could find a panel of the Joker acknowledging Jason Todd's past coinciding with Dick Grayson's when he was first created. whether it a be a reflection after Jason's past change or something he says about Jason before the continuity fix.
@@orangeinkius7257 that’s true especially with Batman who laughs. You could argue that joker did much more damage dead than when alive. Quite interesting to me.
I've never wanted to see Deadpool and Joke interact so much before. Deadpool is paid to kill Joker, Joker shoots Deadpool first, Deadpool cracks a joke for the audience about how pointless that shot was, Joker says something along the lines of "Wait, you see them too?", the two go bond over a murderous rampage.
Deadpool would get defensive of 'his' fans and when the heroes step in Joker would insist that Batman is his, intending to torture him but he will leave some avenue of escape because he knows that is what needs to happen in the comic.
This also fits PERFECTLY with the ending of Batman: Arkham Knight! At the end, you discover the Joker's worst fear: being forgotten. His worst fear is that no one will remember him because that's the whole purpose for his existence!
@@DarksaberForce That's just a nightmare though, there's also a newspaper saying that they're building a Museum to show Batman's battle with his arch enemy The Penguin.
While the Riddler would probably talk trash to Harley here and there about being not as intelligent as he is, he wouldn't abuse the hell out of her like the Joker and treat her way much more than Joker.
This is, BY FAR, your best episode. Very rarely is my mind actually blown by a theory, but this was legitimately one of the best theories I've seen on RUclips. Whenever a theory is proposed, and it fits in virtually EVERY aspect, it blows my mind. Very well done :D
The Imaginary Axis it's because I'm a HUGE Joker fan. I'm serious even my WHOLE room and bed/cutain/walls are curtain themed as Joker would have them. So pretty pretty pretty pleaseeee help me with that?
So, I was just wondering if my understandings of these three terms are correct. If you know the definitions for a fact and it is no inconvenience for you, could you look over how I would define them and see what is accurate/inaccurate about my definitions, so I can finally get these right: Psychosis: A form of insanity where a person's cognitive functions are impaired/disordered, making it more difficult to think rationally, properly perceive reality, and/or understand what is right or wrong to begin with. Psychopathy: A condition leading to anti-social and/or destructive behavior, associated with a lack of empathy/guilt, manipulative tendencies, impulsiveness, or inclination towards violence. The root cause is mainly mental illness, like genetic diseases or damaged physiological functions that impair the ability of certain brain parts to function. However, the person can still think rationally, make properly calculated decisions, and/or at least understand what proper social norms are, thus making him/her not technically insane. Sociopathy: A state of mind where a person exhibits similar anti-social and harmful behaviors that a psychopath might show, but the cause is more nurture, rather than nature. Societal upbringing and/or the person's life choices is the main driving force. It might take more effort for a sociopath to conceal any destructive tendencies he might have and blend into society, because of how a sociopath can both understand reality and can still occasionally feel guilt or the weight of s moral compass on his/her mind. So as an analogy, I am guessing that a psychotic is the equivalent of one who might actually think at one point that 1+1=3, while a psychopath/sociopath is one who understands math and knows 1+1=2, but might not care to follow the rules, due to their respective nature/nurture. So barring the creative theory of the Joker's behavior being caused by him knowing he is a fictional character, I am assuming that the Joker is mostly sociopathic (due to his main motivation being the "one bad day" he had, him losing faith that life has any meaning/justice/worth, and the Joker wanting to prove his nihilistic philosophy to the world), has a small bit of a psychosis (inability to remember his own past, which he refers to as feeling like "multiple choice" at times), and may or may not have traits of a psychopath mixed in (since I do not know he has anything physically wrong with those parts of his brain to contribute to these behaviors).
After several years of research after being victimized by a woman in organized crime who was diagnosed with ASPD in prison I have concluded in fact psychopaths ARE psychotic in one sense: They fail to grasp the reality that the system is bigger than them, smarter than them, better organized than their clans are, and they WILL get caught. Over and over and over and over again.. just the past five years many of her inner-circle have been sent back to prison, three of them for life. When she got out, she immediately used me as an alibi to return to her life of crime, then when I went no-contact she didn't believe me so continued to use me as an alibi and she was caught - and sent back to prison. I only figured it all out much later. Now, either they have a serious lack of connection to reality or they've accepted prison as an acceptable form of 'tax' on their illegal enterprises. But a life sentence doesn't seem to be worth a million bucks unless you're already 90 and were just evicted from your nursing home. There is only so much one can purchase at the prison canteen. Also the fact psychopaths are 'criminally versatile', ie they don't stick to one form of crime, ideally either the most profitable or easiest to get away with, but branch out into everything regardless of risk, profit margins, market and interest points me to a serious deficiency towards reality-testing. It would be like me posting this comment on craigslist instead of right here where its most relevant and I am already am logged in. Finally, psychopaths often team up with other psychopaths. Knowing what we do about their disorder, what they know about themselves, and how the history of organized crime is replete with betrayal leading to murder by their own, they absolutely must be crazy. During my research I've discovered in fact most organized crime murders are indeed committed by people who were from the same clan, gang or group, usually over what certainly seems like 'nothing' to a sane rational mind.
Mark Cobuzzi You are mostly correct, but there is another characteristic to sociopathy that separates it from psychopathy - sociopaths are more impulsive, lack self-control. They are the ones most often caught. Joker would appear to fit this frame, but most of the times everything he does is pre-meditated. It just makes no difference for him to wind up in the asylum. Sometimes he even uses being sent there to his advantage
But what about you, Happy? Do you believe in the world around you? Do you actually think that the places you go and live actually exist? Who knows what/who is really pulling the strings, my friend.
The worst part is that the comic you showed in the end proves that not even the Joker himself knows if he's right or not. He can never be actually sure if he's a fictional character, if his actions have no consequences, that nothing that he does actually matters. He lives in a constant state of doubt because he can obviously never completely break the fourth wall, or he would cease to exist. For a character who's whole world view revolves around knowing that he doesn't actually exist, not knowing that for sure is honestly the biggest hell I can possibly imagine for anyone.
Nah, he IS sure that he does not exist. His *true* hell is that he is unable to actually *do* anything about it (like Deadpool is). He can *see* the strings he (and everybody else) is dangling from, he can *see* the stage and the audience, but he is unable to actually *do* anything with this knowledge. *That* is the true torture: he knows that, no matter what he does, the good guys will win in the end and he will go back to Arkham until the next Joker episode. So he does what he does to both enjoy the ride and secure his own existence by being so freakishly over the top that the fans cannot help but like it and demand his return.
@@centerloper He very much *is* sure. However, Batman dying threw him for a serious loop - like the video said, Batman's "death" temporarily did away with his supersanity because a comic book killing off its own main hero was completely absurd to the point of making him doubt what he knew about the world (that being fictional). ...or maybe there is another explanation: he thought that, with Batman's death, he could finally be free from being cast as the main villain - after all, when the hero is dead, what need is there for the villain? He thought that the script had finally run its course, that he was finally free to live a normal life. And for a while, he did. But then Batman returned and he was like "Yeah, right....like they would let me go that easily. Well, it was a good vacation while it lasted. Now, let's get back to it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!"
Harley Quinn, the hack psychologist, figured this out before the entirety of the Arkham staff. Maybe that's the real reason she went crazy. She got it. She got that she was a comic character, too.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache she doesn’t knows that she’s a fictional character, if she did she would’ve break the 4th wall in the animated series or in the comics rarely like the joker did, she doesn’t knows that nothing is real. She adores joker because he’s really intellegant, strong and evil.
Blue Boi The Joker keeps beating her up and she keeps going with it, and when she “caught” batman, she told joker but then Joker understood she was being set up and Harley didn’t even think of it
What if the Joker not only realizes he's in a comic but also that he's not really in control and that his motives are scripted by someone else? Now wouldn't that be the funniest thing of all and knowing he's not in control makes his rationalization of his events even more.....rational??...or makes him saner than everyone else??
hammercrg I think as far as this theory goes: he just knows his role as a villain and finds it ridiculous to the point of hilarity, thus he goes over the top to please the readers and to mess with his fellow comic characters who are obvious to the whole situation. Their obliviousness is funny to him so he fucks with them any chance he gets by killing off characters, knowing that it’s meaningless yet it still gets a rise out of the heroes
Imagine him trying to explain that on court. No wonder everyone thinks he is insane. As the video says, being insane basically means you have no control over your actions.
I think he has control over his actions, like every character does, but knows he has no control of his surroundings. maybe he does all of those crazy things because he knows if he doesn't became the main villain and keeps entertaining he could be killed off. or maybe, even though he has control of his actions because he's a sentient character, he always knows what is going to be written, and what will happen in every issue, but does whatever the writer has written he was supposed to do, because he does not want to change the comic and lose his ability to tell what will happen next, or maybe he fears consequences for breaking his character.
With this idea, when the joker says he prefers his origin to be "multiple choice" it makes tons of sense. Other comic book characters even the central one's like Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman, depending on continuity their origins ARE "multiple choice". It's just him "fitting in". Even funnier when you consider that villians are usually the characters with the most differing origins.
“Sometimes I remember it a way , sometimes another” Maybe because he remembers and is aware of all the origin stories he had in other comics ? Just like how he remembers his encounter with spider-man even tho it was a completely different comic book
If he is "supersane" then he would qualify as legally insane. Because he is aware he is a character, and no one else is, he would be seen as suffering from the delusions associated with psychosis by everyone else. His supersanity proves his insanity to everyone else in the DC universe but not to the readership of the comics. This is likely why he would be found "insane" by a jury while not actually being insane in the grand scheme of things.
It's like solipsism where you believe you're the only real person and everyone else is either from your imagination or a projection of a simulation, or something similar. Think of a giant room full of solipsists arguing over which one is the real one.
@@krieghart5515 Light Yagami would win. (The song is called Law of Solipsism, implying he may be a solipsist himself, and explaining why he may not regret anything he's done.)
It Makes sense. I’ve killed countless people in GTA V without feeling remorse, why ? Because it’s just a game that I play so I’m not a psychopath,It’s not real. 😂 And the joker knows that DCU isn’t real, so he just does everything that he wouldn’t do in real life. Mind. BLOWN.
It remainds me of a Korean drama where there are main characters, like here Batman, Joker, and the other people are ghost and they can disapear because not important in the story, and Joker knows everything, the life here is a game like in the Korean drama
DukeofBurgers The Sims perhaps? There have been games about making Pizzas... Maybe your character doesn't understand the game, but the one playing has more of an idea what they are trying to accomplish.
joji What is your confusion about? If you've ever played something that involves role playing, maybe D&D. There are times where YOU know that stopping to attack an army of skeletons will probably get your party killed, but the character you created has such a hatred for undead magic that you have them stop and attack the skeletons. In real life we have the subconscious mind, which can figure things out and make decisions without your conscious mind even realizing you made that decision, or why. Going with that thought, it's possible that the "real you" is only controlling this you for entertainment value, or to use the simulation to figure out what to do in the "real world" Games don't necessarily need to involve spectacular plots where the fate of the world hangs on your decisions, sometimes we play rather mundane games. The Harvest Moon series is a game about farming. Animal Crossing is just about living in a neighborhood. There are plenty of games where the characters would think their lives are too boring to be a game.
This theory kinda reminds me of a short story that Neil Gaiman wrote for the Batman Black and White series, where Joker and Batman are just actors and have normal conversations that co-workers have while off-set.
@Soloman Grundy Sorry for the late reply (just saw your message); it's a comic that was part of the Batman: Black and White anthology series (I can't remember which graphic novel volume it was in though)...
So let me get this straight: The reason the Joker laughs at causing pain, receiving pain, and causing other heinous crimes is because he knows none of it is real? Whenever he laughs, he knows he is only harming fictional characters? It's like when he gets stabbed, he just laughs. This is because he laughs at it being not real and not actually meaning anything. Am I right? Super sanity seems even worse than insanity. The Joker is aware of everything and that it is all fiction. As such, *nothing* limits him. Am I also right that he doesn't fear death because he will be brought back? Or does he just not care?
"It just so happens I have a very demanding public. I'm constantly striving to exceed their expectations! Do you have any idea how much pressure I'm under?" Joker doesn't fear death but he fears cancellation. He knows that as long as people keep buying Batman comics he'll keep getting brought back. But if the fans lose interest, if people no longer care, if at some point in the future DC finds Batman stories are no longer profitable, then he's gone for good, and his entire world as well. In his own twisted way he is protecting the people around him in the only way he knows how. When Akrham Batman said "you fear being forgotten", he didn't realize just how right he was.
I'd love to see a Batman movie, where the Joker reveals all this to Batman and then something conveniently happens to erase Batman's memory of the whole thing. And because the audience would then be aware that the Joker knows he's a fictional character, he could point out what a big plot convenience that is.
Or rather, he shows Batman the truth to make him super sane like him, but tries to erase his memories once he realizes that he'll have an arch nemesis to stop him.
I think Batman also knows about all this, but he doesn't want to believe it . I found this video bc I was thinking in a scene where the League of Justice captures the Joker, I think it was in Injustice 1 or 2, when they were talking with the Joker, Wonder Woman was going to use the lasso of truth in the Joker and Batman stopped her, saying "don't use it on him, we don't know what is gonna get out of that mouth, but it's not gonna be the truth" and the Joker says "what don't you wanna believe batsi?" the quotes are inexact but the point is in there lol.
Who didn't play GTA and run over "People" just to see what will happen? Joker is like us playing the game, but he's IN the game, knowing that it's just an entertainment. WOW! That changes so *MUCH* about the Joker as a Character...
Almost no one is actually there to see the Batman. His villains, his friends, and the Bat family are what make his stories interesting. Batman's primary schtick is that he is the World's Greatest Detective. Its the crimes that the detective solves and the people they interact with that make his stories interesting, not the detective themselves.
@@Sewblon I respectfully wildly disagree batman as a character is extremely interesting yes everything around him is also great but it literally all come from him characterizations of his own you're wrong here batman is even better than characters with him if u say it's on the interactions with the others yeah obviously that's literally from him as well the way he interacts is the actual interaction
@@Sewblon everything about him his story his dynamic his ideal his whole character and personality and his characterization with each villain his struggles his inner conflict he's literally one of the most intriguing heros ever 😕
@@Elricsedric Batman does have the ingredients for an interesting character. If you strip away the superficial cool stuff, then he is really a man who lost his biological family and spent his life building a surrogate family to replace it. The versions that explore that aspect are good. But there are not many of them.
*The Joker* The Joker has no psychiatric diagnosis. He's completely undiagnosable. He's highly developed, and he even has a really high sense of humor or sarcasm. He's also capable of manipulating other people's conscience, and is therefore essentially developed beyond all others. He essentially perceives things for exactly how they are, and dœs not have any unreasonable beliefs or chaotic behavior. It's actually very well controlled, and quite actually therefore very individualized: Such that it essentially comes across as whacky, funky, goofy or even nutty. He's even patterned out his own behaviors into repeated and therefore perpetual tendencies. The Joker is actually therefore even more sane than absolutely everyone else. Probably because his brain is more active than just about anyone else's. He's always correct, and he always says it exactly for how it is. He was once knocked into the Lazarus-Pit, but its essential induced insanity actually made him "normal". He even essentially knows that neither he nor his essential world of DC Comics books are real (which is literally the factor behind his own utter apathetic outlook of things and his blatant disregard for other comicbook characters), often communicates with his audiences and even remembers things from other paradoxes of DC and even of various crossovers that he's had, be it canon or be it uncanon (such as, remembering Spiderman from a previous uncanon past crossover, despite not ever even once being actually remembered by Spiderman). He's been repeatedly preemptively diagnosed with various essential personality disorders that have absolutely no connection with insanity. He's even once turned a page in his own comic, and has repeatedly gestured to the audience. He's been declared at Arkham Asylum as being not at all insane but rather completely, and get this one here: Supersane. And he was literally even capable of creating the character of Harley Quin, meaning that he essentially has the ability to create and therefore write his very own story of DC happening directly within the DC Comics reality by your courtesy (a.k.a: Yours Truly), "The Joker Himself". He's most certainly completely different from all other psychiatric or psychological cases (though especially at Arkham Asylum), and there's no real official solid so-called "diagnosis of insanity" at all (PERIOD) that can actually explain his nature because he's actually completely sane whereas it more completely seems like everyone else is basically only either "normal"(inbetween total sanity and total insanity) or insane. When Batman died, the Joker knew the writers would literally never kill off their title character and therefore immediately realized that without a Batman, there can be no Joker; He therefore immediately quit upon himself as the Joker, changed his name and essentially became "normal". He recognizes his role as the direct opposer of Batman, and is literally completely obsessed with him. His higher sense of reality and above-average level of sanity, therefore, might as well turn out to be a rather peculiar case of absolutely none other but of very high-functioning Autism. *The Batman* The Batman is most definitely an antisocial lunatic. He lives in a secluded bat-oriented technological spy-cave. He wears a supersuit and drives a supermobile just to repress his utter and total incapability to cope with the absolute death of his parents. He puts on a mask and plays with people out on the street, calling himself "Batman" to scare them. He tortures and even kills people for standing up to their repressors and that's his completely delusional sense of "justice": That "They get what they deserve" when they really don't at all, and he especially dœs it when or if it's essentially the completely other and therefore opposite way around. Batman often has but absolutely no "leg"(conviction) to stand on, probably a part of his utter delusionality, and noone would ever really deserve whatever dark, gut-wrenching, disturbing, disgusting, bloodthirsty, cold, sadistic, statistical, utter or extreme things that Batman would ever do to them; Absolutely everyone would deserve something far better than that. He has no conscience, no character, no personality and no soul.
Hunter Pollard that would explain why she's obsessively infatuated with him. Plenty of comic book villains and heroes came on to Harley but no one would be able to replace her Mista J. She kinda sees him as a god more than a lover.
Who says she wasn't trying to replace him... If you lived in a fictional universe, and you knew it, and you knew you were second to joker, and you were aware the 'fans' knew you were second to joker.... how could you go wrong attempting to take his place?!?!
Blue Alchemist close! I agree with you in a way. She loved him before he told her anything I’m sure of it. I believe when he told her about the “truth” she looks at it as a movie with them as the protagonist Bonnie and Clyde. That’s why she doesn’t care if she Kills anyone either. She believes what he said is unconditionally true.
I think the scariest idea is that he is not insane. He is in fact perfectly sane fundamentally, and instead demonstrates the frightening limits of human sanity/nature. He knows what hes done with a normal psyche underneath, and is truly driven by emotion
This was really interesting. This means that the joker is the most cunning character in the whole dc universe. Unfortunately he is the only one who understands this joke. Very good Video. Presence vs Joker.😲 AMAZING 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Interestingly bat mite is also in on the joke as he acted "for the fans" by cancelling batman the brave and the bold for the batman, and bat mite was chosen cuz his whole thing is that hes a fan from one dimension higher than ours so he knows what every batman fan likes and wants
Just one problem. My father's a psychologist and he told me a joke: There was a man walking down a street past an asylum, and one of the patients there walked along the fence next to him, staring at him. The man walked faster, and so did the patient. He walked slower, and so did the patient. Finally, he turned to the man and asked, "What is it? What do you want?" "Do you know why I'm in here and you're out there?" "No, no I don't know why your in there and I'm out here. Why is it?" "Because there are more people in the world like you than there are like me." It's not very funny, but then it's not really supposed to be. It is, however, true. Fundamentally, we define sanity and insanity by normalcy. To be insane, to be a mental disorder, it first and foremost has to be abnormal. So, if the Joker is aware of a reality radically different from the rest of the world, even if it is *our real reality*, then in the world of DC Comics, the Joker is psychotic. He has broken with reality and perceives a world very different from everyone else's. Just like Deadpool. Deadpool is psychotic. He is disconnected from the reality around him. He lives in his own special world, where everything is a comic book and Wolverine is immortal because he's popular, and no one truly dies, and pain is an illusion, though he's still connected enough to say it hurts.
kasaundra falls The 'joke' is just that one man is 'crazy' because the rest of humanity disagrees with him on reality. We all see one moon when we look into the sky. If you meet a man who says he sees 3, all clear and about the same size, you think he's hallucinating, and everyone would agree with you. But if you were the only one to see one moon, and everyone else saw 3, you'd be the crazy one.
+Colin Smith To be fair, I don't think neither Joker not Deadpool are psychotic. Being aware of another reality doesn't disconnect you from the one you're in. I'll just stick to Deadpool for the moment. The people around him think he's psychotic because he's correctly aware of the reader and the fact that its a comic. I say correctly, because....he's not wrong. He just has a different perspective of the experience. Maybe if it wasn't real, as in a delusion or hallucination, you could argue psychotic. But our existence and the fact that he talks to us, the reader, that makes him not delusional at all. And being aware of different realities doesn't equal psychotic unless you want to throw every single dimension jumping character into that group. Since a new dimension is essentially a new reality and of course said being would need to be aware of them. And even in one of the Superman animated movies, where Lex Luthor was able to acquire his powers, he was suddenly able to see how Superman see's things and it was on a different level of energy and everything. Not disconnected but definitely more aware and it changed his life because it changed his view of the world. So I wouldn't regard neither Joker nor Deadpool, or anyone who is self aware as psychotic. Actually this whole thing reminds me of The Sixth Sense.....anyway. With regard to this statement "He lives in his own special world"...well yea. Technically we ALL do. None of us are living the same experience, we're just roles in each others personal journey. We just tend to get whats reality and whats normal brow beaten into our personal lenses at a very young age. Anyway, I don't really think you pointed out a problem at all, unless that problem is the society that decides whats normal is closed minded in trying to see someone else's perspective. Apparently the moment Harley Quinn actually tried to see it from Joker's perspective, she became a bit self aware herself. And that in itself says a lot.
I've known this about the joker for years, but I always like seeing the bits of comic that totally prove this is the reality of his "reality". He's really good to his fans, always doing his absolute best to entertain us.
Its the same concept why Joker laughs. He understands every single word stated here. That it is us that we decide how cruel can he be. Even with the new Joker movie, the same concept remains "I wasn't sure I existed, But I do." He exists because we sit there like voyeurs of looking at his misery. We're there to watch him breakdown and rise.
that's not you being smart or brave, that's you being a dumbass, if you want people to know what you look like fine, don't come crying when a serial killer sees your face, searches you on facebook, gets your address and kills yo ass, good thing you changed it to the most boring cap I've ever seen, now get out of here with your white weak little threats.
+Laura Maria I ain't worried about no serial killer "oh look someone's face lets search him up oh no I live in idk Texas and he lives in LA oh no" ain't gonna happen 😂
I mean if we stopped being entertained and stopped buying his comic, then he'd cease to exist. Which is why he has to do more and more insane hijinks to keep us interested. Seems entirely legit.
I've never thought Joker's insane. He's a perfectly sane but evil man who fakes insanity to avoid the death penalty and his whole "Clown Prince of Crime" persona is an act to make him seem insane when he's actually not.
I believe Joker is the very concept of Madness, because Madness comes in all forms, good, bad, hate, love, chaos and order. Batman is a form of Madness he's a grown man dressed like a bat fighting crime.
i think its just that he wants the comic books to not fail and he does not kill anyone because its a comic and if something unusual in the comic happened he would believe that he is not in a comic
now i just want to see a joker x deadpool comic deadpool: isnt it the most crazy character in the dc universe i love this guy he is insane! joker: you know... when you keep break the forth wall it will get old and old jokes arent funny!
I mean both of these characters know they are in a comic heck deadpool even killed the entire marvel universe because he knew he was in a comic and wanted to release everyone of their suffering because no matter how many times they died they would come back to die again for example wolverine a character loved by many fans he would come back again and again to die again that would really be a great story two guys who know more than anyone in their universe meet and talk about their world's and their ideas
You know,The Joker has his own Self-Demonstrating Trope Page on The TV Tropes Website as he's talking to *US* ,the fans. He even *MENTIONS* about Deadpool,of how he's *NOT* much like him,and he practically hates Deadpool. Although he *DOES* loves and respects Deadpool's work of him murdering anyone as he sees fit. Funny isn't it? 😅😂
People didn't notice 1 thing He want to be insane he want to be scary because if he does know that he's a comic character then he's trying his best to well not be forgotten because when your forgotten in a comic book it equal that you don't make the creator any more money's and what happen when that happen ? You get erased you won't appear any more you will die in the comic since nobody want to see you because they don't like you anymore and the one who creating isn't getting anymore money
why do you say that, I mean, this happened for 2 fnaf theorists too, i accused one of them because he posted his videos after the other but it turns out i was being paranoid and they both came to the same conclusion, it's not ok to just accuse somebody like that, I've learned my lesson, learn yours.
yeah if you want to make a something that has done by someone people will always call you stealing ideas. rephrasing it etc etc. its as if what you did will always get some trademark that if i done it no one in this world should do it. what a dick. its as if you can create your own idea. you know we all steal ideas from others and rephrase it and mark it with our own words.
Ohhh my gosh!!! My mind is completely blown!! I never EVER expected that from the joker! It make completely sense now. I've always like the joker cuz he's just crazy and getting crazier such time I saw him, I just can't help but like the idea of him just crazy without a reason but now after this I just love the guy cuz he knew! He knew all the long, he was fake...
In the Heath Ledger version, the Joker even says “Schemers trying to control their ‘little worlds’. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempt to control things really are.” Almost like he knows that they’re really pathetic attempts at control, as the story writers and the audience will always demand that the control be upset to create a problem for the hero to fix.
11:53 is it me or does the Joker seem very sad,lonley, and vulnerable in the left box? Supporting the theory that he's the only sane person and no one can ever relate to him, and it sort of saddens him that when he tells people the joke they don't get it, and he's the only one laughing. It's almost as if he's pleading with those in the comic and out to understand him.
As a Psychology student, honestly I always just assumed that The Joker would be considered a sociopath. I suppose the super sane theory makes sense in a way in terms of 4th wall being broken maybe, but it is quite possible for an individual to be intelligent and aware of their real surroundings while having a mental disorder (depending on the disorder). I just think that Joker is a sociopath that pretends to have different mental disorders. It may simply be part of the persona that he has created for himself. Although he may not suffer from psychosis he most definitely has a psychopathic personality which helps to classify him as a sociopath.
I have. Like I said, maybe he is pretending to have different disorders for his persona and maybe he has come to believe it. Maybe he simply also suffers from hysteria.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes Of course. I didn't say that he no mental issues. From what I can see he suffers from being a sociopath and he may be pretending to have other issues just for the sake of the character of "The Joker". I obviously have no idea if this is the actual case but that's what looks like to me.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes Oh no you're okay. You should see some of the RUclips arguments I've been in. This is a civil discussion, btw I like your username.
He TELLS you. "You're just another freak...like me." He sees everyone like HIMSELF but not ever reaching their true potential of exercising their WILL over the UNIVERSE. Otherwise he would be stopped, thus you, the system, the law, The Batman are all a JOKE. He is the pure embodiment of Hobbes Law. He who wields; reigns.
@@odeiofunkdeputariarum851 that why i hate them movie. There version of Joker is "i am mentallly ill man feel sorry for me" i hate that vibe. This is real joker.
Maybe I watch way too many comic book videos but this isn't the first time I've heard a RUclipsr say that the Joker has supersanity and that he is completely aware of his existence as a comic book character. I enjoyed how you got to the conclusion. It was more researched based than just tossing out a theory without any line drawn.
The joker has always told us what his motivation is. "All it takes is a little push" "All it takes is one bad day". His entire purpose is to bring out the darkness that lies within us all, with a particular obsession with corrupting Batman. He is not insane because it is true. Anyone can be pushed over the edge under the right conditions and that is the scariest part.
But in real lifea lot of people can endure a lot and remain good people. Some people truly are that strong, and some people have conquered that darkness No, what makes Joker more sane than people think, is his awareness that he is in a comic, His idea that nothing matters in the comics holds more weight considering his understanding of the 4th wall and the game and performance he’s basically been put in. Technically he wouldn’t be responsible for a single death. But yeah I never thought the philosophy of the killing joke was perfect
Actually makes sense, bcs after Jason's death the joker goes missing and presumed death after an helicopter crash, the next time we see him is in batman 450-451 where he is hurt and he still is the joker but he fears commtiing crimes because he forgot the '' joke'' (in the car crash). He repeats that he' has to find the joke again but we readers don't know what it is... Though if we imagine the joke is that the joker lives in a comic book universe then this arc really makes sense...
+Weasel nah i kinda think of it as like normal people see it straight forward, deal with the facts they have and that's it thats how it is. insane people and geniuses try to see it at different angles, finding different explanations. the thin line between them is what angle u decide to look at most
+Julian Winston just because you are german doesn't hive you the right to criticise others for bad grammar when yours ain't any better. "you hypocrite" being foreign isn't any excuse for jack shit (have a good day)
Recent Rebirth comic supports this, with Joker complaining how story is getting ridiculous and that he and Batman are supposed to be fighting on the streets of Gotham and not go to the Moon
Great theory. Just a minor correction, Spider-Man didn’t recognize him the second time because it was Ben Reilly, who had never previously met the Joker. Peter Parker was still Spider-Man in the initial Disordered Minds crossover when they met the first time.
The way you said "You are imaginary right? Right?!" legit scared me. But us being real to the Joker must be as scary to him as the creatures in our daydreams turning out to be real would be to us.
Joker is super sanity but batman is just a normal man in the comics, agree with me joker is much smarter than batman ,joker even broke the 4th wall which batman didn't
One thing that does stick out to me is a statement Joker made in TAS: "Without Batman, crime has no punchline." I think this also acknowledged his awareness of being a fictional character, and with Batman gone, he didn't have any purpose anymore.
I’ll never look at the joker the same way again
In a good way or a bad way?
I feel insulted
The Joker why would you feel insulted if she meant it in a good way? Even if she meant it in a bad way at least she liked you before she heard the fan theory, Joker.
Edit: For clarification, the guy above me had the channel name "The Joker" before he must've changed it to King Tomato. So before It was one if those things where someone pretends to be a fictional character and everyone else goes along with it. That's the context you need for my comment..
its only a theory
martin53mattsson You say that like that dismisses it. Theories are backed by facts and are accurate descriptions of reality.
When the Joker says that there's a "fine line" between a clown and a mass murderer, he's not just making a dark joke; he's literally saying that a clown and a (fictional) mass murderer both serve the same purpose. A clown tells jokes, does magic tricks, and makes balloon animals; he makes people laugh and cheer. Their purpose is to entertain. A comic book villain creates a foil for the hero, providing them obstacles and challenges to overcome. They create suspense and excitement. Their purpose is to entertain.
from the perspective that The Joker knows he's fictional, when he says a clown is no different from a super villain, he means that literally.
His trying to tell you that the real world we live in is fake .. And you are a fictinal character in this world. Your name in all capital letters in your ID and social security are your fictional characters made to punish you and decive you into thinking they have power over you is call the (straw man.)He a clown because once you find out thus world lie to you you feel like a clown a joke to this fake world.. He is tje real hero trying to save the world from evil that control with lies. Is real life shit but is way to crazy to be real ..thats why he reasures u he is not crazy.. They always try to make you feel like is you thats crazy but hes way to smart. He figure out the great decit the bible speaks at the end of time will happen.. The goverments and laws are a lie and a fake.. Liars and sceamers .
And he can't break the 4th wall completely since he would cease to exist, the joker is the one true sane person in all of DC
Manuel Hernandez: Sovereign Citizens Fail videos are the funniest stuff on RUclips 😂
Idiot: no officer im not transporting goods so you have no authority over me.
Cop: takes him to jail
Me: AHAHAHAAHHHAHAAAHAHAAA!!!
@@MP-db9sw i love to show them how pathetic their attempt to control me fall short in the precense of my greatness...they skeamers with codes ,they will fall off at the first sight of troble (me).Learn from the best sovereign Lord the joker by listening to his words and his ways in this movie .. Listen to cops when speaking about him when he is in jail ,for it is the way to beat any case in criminal law .you waste your time by arguing with a public servant over law , their job is to turn you into cash .. Your soveranity shines in court where you can't be ignore or and your soveranity shines so much you get to see how they fear you. Good cop bad cop is the most famous trick known and even you will agree they use. Wanna see how wierd yhe world you live in really is ,do as i did as be surprised . get pull over ignore them .. They have info from plates no need to speak if they breake their oath to serve and protect by hold and punish .. Do as the joker .. Dont agree or put your name in anything in jail (contracts) Dont awnser to questions insted ask questions. When ask for name or allias give them nothing . no adress no name no alias no contracts or signitures u can take it as far as the joker and use no name brands on the clothes by getting Taylor fit and made and guess what no case .. They will give you hell but once in court if they dare to go that far thats where you see your soveranity shines and they will fold and drop the case or win it and write your name on their book of codes and statues they use as law and achieve greatness.. Soveranity comes from God . to claim sovereign citizens is to claim citizen of Gods kingdom and Gods kingdom (God has no rules and we are under his grace not under law)so you will be respected in court, i can defeat law with out saying a word . Law is hard and cruel so we do not dare to go against but reather because we do not dare to go against law is why they hard and cruel...the joker is the dark night and holds the sword(word) of God
I read as much of that as the police will when they pull you over, which is slightly more than none.
This is why at the end of the new movie, when the therapist asks what's so funny, he tells her she wouldn't get it, and he starts singing with the music
Oh yeah
That's the punchline. He's not real.. He's just a cog in a machine and we fell for it
@@erinmcgillivray1387 That's a good way to sum it up
Not the real joker! Read some comics or watch some shows! What to expect from someone Named Gucci gang
@Alix98x if you actually thought Joker was an awful movie than you are a moron and clearly too stupid to understand an amazing film when you see it. Im guessing youre a child
This theory gives an imfamous death new context.
When Jason Todd as Robin was introduced not many people like him. He was claimed to be a Dick Grayson Copycat. So DC posted a poll to decide what they should do, keep him or kill him. After the poll was decided, A Death in the Family was released, and you know who killed off Jason? That’s right, the clown himself. Knowing that his fans weren’t pleased with Jason, the joker took the liberty of doing what the fans wanted, killing the boy wonder.
The Pun-Isher
THIS!
I know this is six months later, but anyway... It wasn't just the fact that he was a nearly exact clone of Dick Grayson in terms of circumstances, it was also what happened when writers realized this and tried to fix this.
The result was an unlikable, violent mess that was 180 degrees turn from what he was before. Now people had problems with him being a robin-clone, but this? No one was asking for a violent, kill happy, disrespectful to Batman anti-hero who just turned people off. In some respects, it could even be called a mercy killing.
@@kelvinphillips7140 then we got redhood it all worked out
@@kelvinphillips7140 I really wish I could find a panel of the Joker acknowledging Jason Todd's past coinciding with Dick Grayson's when he was first created. whether it a be a reflection after Jason's past change or something he says about Jason before the continuity fix.
It explain, why the Joker works so well with other 🦹🏻♂️ and why he is not afraid 😱 of anything...
So that’s why joker doesn’t care if he dies... because he knows he’s just gonna come back to life
Alexander Gill joker can't lose at this point.
Or drive someone else insane to take his place like the batman who laughs or injustice superman
He knows that the one writing him
Will always give him the last laugh
@@orangeinkius7257 that’s true especially with Batman who laughs. You could argue that joker did much more damage dead than when alive. Quite interesting to me.
Honestly I think he just wants to die, like who the fuck wouldn’t if they lived his life
Oh geez. That was mind blowing. The end clip was like the best thing I've ever watched.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it! Hit up the VA if you get a chance. He loves to hear from fans. :)
In the comic book the man who laughs says Batman Joker be paranoid
HONESTLY I NEVER SAW THINGS LIKE THIS I AGREE THE END CLIP WAS AWESOME! (sorry cap locks(
@@TheImaginaryAxis dude pls tell me the name of the comic book from the end clip
I skip the last part because it gave me a shock at random and his voice over of the joker is both creepy and scary for me!😅🥺🙏🏻😤😫😩
I've never wanted to see Deadpool and Joke interact so much before.
Deadpool is paid to kill Joker, Joker shoots Deadpool first, Deadpool cracks a joke for the audience about how pointless that shot was, Joker says something along the lines of "Wait, you see them too?", the two go bond over a murderous rampage.
Deadpool would get defensive of 'his' fans and when the heroes step in Joker would insist that Batman is his, intending to torture him but he will leave some avenue of escape because he knows that is what needs to happen in the comic.
Something quite similar to this happens the Deathbattle episode with Deadpool. It... was mind-blowing.
correction: in the second Deadpool Death Battle. I would call it trippy rather than mind-blowing
And live happily ever after
Or they have a brilliant talk show about the hero’s and villains they seen in their life
“Has it ever occurred to you doc, that we’re really just figments of theirs?” This is such a powerful line with this new perspective
This also fits PERFECTLY with the ending of Batman: Arkham Knight! At the end, you discover the Joker's worst fear: being forgotten. His worst fear is that no one will remember him because that's the whole purpose for his existence!
Trevor Spackman exactly
Also in that ending a newspaper wrote that Harley Quinn hooked up with Riddler :)
Trevor Spackman Oh he’s Freddy now?
@@DarksaberForce That's just a nightmare though, there's also a newspaper saying that they're building a Museum to show Batman's battle with his arch enemy The Penguin.
While the Riddler would probably talk trash to Harley here and there about being not as intelligent as he is, he wouldn't abuse the hell out of her like the Joker and treat her way much more than Joker.
This is, BY FAR, your best episode. Very rarely is my mind actually blown by a theory, but this was legitimately one of the best theories I've seen on RUclips. Whenever a theory is proposed, and it fits in virtually EVERY aspect, it blows my mind. Very well done :D
I'm glad you liked it so much. I'm very proud of this episode, myself. :)
It turned out much better than I expected.
can you please tell me all the comics/ novels you used in the video? :) THANKS!!!
Roger Aceves Man, I don't know. I had to reference _a lot_ of comics to get through all those diagnoses. I don't know if I can remember all of them.
The Imaginary Axis do you think you remember which one is the one where Joker is black and white like an old movie? And. The comic at the very end?
The Imaginary Axis it's because I'm a HUGE Joker fan. I'm serious even my WHOLE room and bed/cutain/walls are curtain themed as Joker would have them. So pretty pretty pretty pleaseeee help me with that?
Finally someone who's ACTUALLY able to differentiate between psychotic and psychopath.
So, I was just wondering if my understandings of these three terms are correct. If you know the definitions for a fact and it is no inconvenience for you, could you look over how I would define them and see what is accurate/inaccurate about my definitions, so I can finally get these right:
Psychosis: A form of insanity where a person's cognitive functions are impaired/disordered, making it more difficult to think rationally, properly perceive reality, and/or understand what is right or wrong to begin with.
Psychopathy: A condition leading to anti-social and/or destructive behavior, associated with a lack of empathy/guilt, manipulative tendencies, impulsiveness, or inclination towards violence. The root cause is mainly mental illness, like genetic diseases or damaged physiological functions that impair the ability of certain brain parts to function. However, the person can still think rationally, make properly calculated decisions, and/or at least understand what proper social norms are, thus making him/her not technically insane.
Sociopathy: A state of mind where a person exhibits similar anti-social and harmful behaviors that a psychopath might show, but the cause is more nurture, rather than nature. Societal upbringing and/or the person's life choices is the main driving force. It might take more effort for a sociopath to conceal any destructive tendencies he might have and blend into society, because of how a sociopath can both understand reality and can still occasionally feel guilt or the weight of s moral compass on his/her mind.
So as an analogy, I am guessing that a psychotic is the equivalent of one who might actually think at one point that 1+1=3, while a psychopath/sociopath is one who understands math and knows 1+1=2, but might not care to follow the rules, due to their respective nature/nurture.
So barring the creative theory of the Joker's behavior being caused by him knowing he is a fictional character, I am assuming that the Joker is mostly sociopathic (due to his main motivation being the "one bad day" he had, him losing faith that life has any meaning/justice/worth, and the Joker wanting to prove his nihilistic philosophy to the world), has a small bit of a psychosis (inability to remember his own past, which he refers to as feeling like "multiple choice" at times), and may or may not have traits of a psychopath mixed in (since I do not know he has anything physically wrong with those parts of his brain to contribute to these behaviors).
After several years of research after being victimized by a woman in organized crime who was diagnosed with ASPD in prison I have concluded in fact psychopaths ARE psychotic in one sense: They fail to grasp the reality that the system is bigger than them, smarter than them, better organized than their clans are, and they WILL get caught.
Over and over and over and over again.. just the past five years many of her inner-circle have been sent back to prison, three of them for life. When she got out, she immediately used me as an alibi to return to her life of crime, then when I went no-contact she didn't believe me so continued to use me as an alibi and she was caught - and sent back to prison. I only figured it all out much later.
Now, either they have a serious lack of connection to reality or they've accepted prison as an acceptable form of 'tax' on their illegal enterprises. But a life sentence doesn't seem to be worth a million bucks unless you're already 90 and were just evicted from your nursing home. There is only so much one can purchase at the prison canteen.
Also the fact psychopaths are 'criminally versatile', ie they don't stick to one form of crime, ideally either the most profitable or easiest to get away with, but branch out into everything regardless of risk, profit margins, market and interest points me to a serious deficiency towards reality-testing. It would be like me posting this comment on craigslist instead of right here where its most relevant and I am already am logged in.
Finally, psychopaths often team up with other psychopaths. Knowing what we do about their disorder, what they know about themselves, and how the history of organized crime is replete with betrayal leading to murder by their own, they absolutely must be crazy. During my research I've discovered in fact most organized crime murders are indeed committed by people who were from the same clan, gang or group, usually over what certainly seems like 'nothing' to a sane rational mind.
Mark Cobuzzi You are mostly correct, but there is another characteristic to sociopathy that separates it from psychopathy - sociopaths are more impulsive, lack self-control. They are the ones most often caught. Joker would appear to fit this frame, but most of the times everything he does is pre-meditated. It just makes no difference for him to wind up in the asylum. Sometimes he even uses being sent there to his advantage
The Narcissist's Scapegoat not everyone with psychopathy is bad
Facts
“Has it ever occurred to you that we’re just figments of theirs”. -Joker
That gave me chills.
And it's true
Yes. Always have been.
But what comic is this from?
@@jackw8437 I want to know too
The moment when you found out the truth of joker being a 4th wall breaker honestly gave me chills
Same
I agree
Is it weird that halfway into the video I figured it out
Definitely
666th like byy
It's easy to call a man insane.
It's alot harder to admit that he was right all along.
Smiley the Smile or was just a sadistic asshole
Admitting that a crazy person was right all along is how cults are started, Harley Quinn is literary a cultist of MrJ.
Edward Armstrong its just edgy kids on internet for now
But what about you, Happy? Do you believe in the world around you? Do you actually think that the places you go and live actually exist? Who knows what/who is really pulling the strings, my friend.
God Left blah
The worst part is that the comic you showed in the end proves that not even the Joker himself knows if he's right or not. He can never be actually sure if he's a fictional character, if his actions have no consequences, that nothing that he does actually matters. He lives in a constant state of doubt because he can obviously never completely break the fourth wall, or he would cease to exist. For a character who's whole world view revolves around knowing that he doesn't actually exist, not knowing that for sure is honestly the biggest hell I can possibly imagine for anyone.
Nah, he IS sure that he does not exist. His *true* hell is that he is unable to actually *do* anything about it (like Deadpool is). He can *see* the strings he (and everybody else) is dangling from, he can *see* the stage and the audience, but he is unable to actually *do* anything with this knowledge. *That* is the true torture: he knows that, no matter what he does, the good guys will win in the end and he will go back to Arkham until the next Joker episode. So he does what he does to both enjoy the ride and secure his own existence by being so freakishly over the top that the fans cannot help but like it and demand his return.
@@hannahmonteiro9229 If that were the case, he would not have turned a leaf when Batman died. He is not sure.
@@centerloper He very much *is* sure. However, Batman dying threw him for a serious loop - like the video said, Batman's "death" temporarily did away with his supersanity because a comic book killing off its own main hero was completely absurd to the point of making him doubt what he knew about the world (that being fictional).
...or maybe there is another explanation: he thought that, with Batman's death, he could finally be free from being cast as the main villain - after all, when the hero is dead, what need is there for the villain? He thought that the script had finally run its course, that he was finally free to live a normal life. And for a while, he did. But then Batman returned and he was like "Yeah, right....like they would let me go that easily. Well, it was a good vacation while it lasted. Now, let's get back to it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!"
Every therapist in Arkham Asylum: Why are you the way you are?
Joker: You wouldn’t get it.
It would seem that the therapists would be the ones to tell the Joker why he is like he is, no?!
Joker:From any other guy!
Sorry just got rick rolled so now the song is stuck in my head again.
At last. I get the joke. And it's pretty darn funny.
Hahahahahahaha ikr?
it is tho
@@oasisflame if you think about it for a second it's actually pretty fucking hilarious.
I laughed
Don't make jokes about this reality being fake.
You'd be surprised...
Ha...Ha...Ha...
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Harley Quinn, the hack psychologist, figured this out before the entirety of the Arkham staff. Maybe that's the real reason she went crazy. She got it. She got that she was a comic character, too.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache she doesn’t knows that she’s a fictional character, if she did she would’ve break the 4th wall in the animated series or in the comics rarely like the joker did, she doesn’t knows that nothing is real. She adores joker because he’s really intellegant, strong and evil.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache nah, she just adores the joker that she’ll do anything for her, and she is too naive to notice
TheFerBoi 1 she’s not naive lol but maybe blind because of love?
Blue Boi The Joker keeps beating her up and she keeps going with it, and when she “caught” batman, she told joker
but then Joker understood she was being set up and Harley didn’t even think of it
@@themanbehindtheslaughter177 in her new animated TV show she does
What if the Joker not only realizes he's in a comic but also that he's not really in control and that his motives are scripted by someone else? Now wouldn't that be the funniest thing of all and knowing he's not in control makes his rationalization of his events even more.....rational??...or makes him saner than everyone else??
hammercrg I think as far as this theory goes: he just knows his role as a villain and finds it ridiculous to the point of hilarity, thus he goes over the top to please the readers and to mess with his fellow comic characters who are obvious to the whole situation. Their obliviousness is funny to him so he fucks with them any chance he gets by killing off characters, knowing that it’s meaningless yet it still gets a rise out of the heroes
Imagine him trying to explain that on court. No wonder everyone thinks he is insane.
As the video says, being insane basically means you have no control over your actions.
I think he has control over his actions, like every character does, but knows he has no control of his surroundings. maybe he does all of those crazy things because he knows if he doesn't became the main villain and keeps entertaining he could be killed off. or maybe, even though he has control of his actions because he's a sentient character, he always knows what is going to be written, and what will happen in every issue, but does whatever the writer has written he was supposed to do, because he does not want to change the comic and lose his ability to tell what will happen next, or maybe he fears consequences for breaking his character.
This reminds of Black Mirror's Bandersnatch episode and your theory just makes the Joker all the more disturbing
No control about your comic
With this idea, when the joker says he prefers his origin to be "multiple choice" it makes tons of sense. Other comic book characters even the central one's like Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman, depending on continuity their origins ARE "multiple choice".
It's just him "fitting in". Even funnier when you consider that villians are usually the characters with the most differing origins.
“Sometimes I remember it a way , sometimes another” Maybe because he remembers and is aware of all the origin stories he had in other comics ? Just like how he remembers his encounter with spider-man even tho it was a completely different comic book
Yes. The joker knows how many different renditions of himself there are !
Whats the name of the comic at the end?
@@ahmedmansour6499 here in the comment section user @jackw8437 said Batman 80 page giant 2010
If he is "supersane" then he would qualify as legally insane. Because he is aware he is a character, and no one else is, he would be seen as suffering from the delusions associated with psychosis by everyone else. His supersanity proves his insanity to everyone else in the DC universe but not to the readership of the comics. This is likely why he would be found "insane" by a jury while not actually being insane in the grand scheme of things.
It's like solipsism where you believe you're the only real person and everyone else is either from your imagination or a projection of a simulation, or something similar.
Think of a giant room full of solipsists arguing over which one is the real one.
@@krieghart5515 Light Yagami would win. (The song is called Law of Solipsism, implying he may be a solipsist himself, and explaining why he may not regret anything he's done.)
@666LaVey666 lol yeah that's a trip, especially mixing them together. Glad your head is still on!
@@morthostalisint1720 Win at what?
@@Sewblon Arguing that he's real.
It Makes sense. I’ve killed countless people in GTA V without feeling remorse, why ? Because it’s just a game that I play so I’m not a psychopath,It’s not real. 😂
And the joker knows that DCU isn’t real, so he just does everything that he wouldn’t do in real life. Mind. BLOWN.
holy fuck!!! this is so fuckin' true.... lol lol lol
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Genairo S mind not blown that's just a cheap solution
Holy shit!!! You fucking get it !!!
It remainds me of a Korean drama where there are main characters, like here Batman, Joker, and the other people are ghost and they can disapear because not important in the story, and Joker knows everything, the life here is a game like in the Korean drama
Should change his name to Woker
Lmao!😂😂
LMAO!!!
Sounds like something he’d do.
Stop that!
Woker 😂
How is he found insane at every trial?
The jury is actually insane.
Fz9NYC or he puts up a good act.
It's Gotham. Who isn't?
NoBoy Lunatic Not the Joker
Well if this theory is correct, and the Joker tried to explain it to the jury, they would think he's delusional and thus insane
Caspian Horlick or maybe the judges are corrupt? It’s Gotham after all
I will never read a comic, play a video game or watch a movie with the joker the same
Here's one for you, did you know you're a character in a game?
+Kamike Serpantail my life is to basic to be in a game
DukeofBurgers
The Sims perhaps? There have been games about making Pizzas... Maybe your character doesn't understand the game, but the one playing has more of an idea what they are trying to accomplish.
+Kamike Serpantail what?
joji
What is your confusion about?
If you've ever played something that involves role playing, maybe D&D. There are times where YOU know that stopping to attack an army of skeletons will probably get your party killed, but the character you created has such a hatred for undead magic that you have them stop and attack the skeletons.
In real life we have the subconscious mind, which can figure things out and make decisions without your conscious mind even realizing you made that decision, or why.
Going with that thought, it's possible that the "real you" is only controlling this you for entertainment value, or to use the simulation to figure out what to do in the "real world"
Games don't necessarily need to involve spectacular plots where the fate of the world hangs on your decisions, sometimes we play rather mundane games. The Harvest Moon series is a game about farming. Animal Crossing is just about living in a neighborhood. There are plenty of games where the characters would think their lives are too boring to be a game.
This video didn't just explain to me why the joker acts the way he acts, but also made me question my own existence. Best video on RUclips
Our universe is digital, not analog. Atoms and molecules making up the ones and the space between are the zeros.
AHAHAHAHA!
"..I'm like a dog chasing cars.....I don't know what to do when I get one.I just love doing things."
- Joker(The dark knight movie)
Dude, you didnt even get the quote right
"Im like a dog chasing cars. I wouldnt know what to do with one if I caught it. I just DO things."
@@Jess-Rabbit I think I prefer Arun's quote..
@@goofybutserious4807 you can prefer it, but its wrong
This theory kinda reminds me of a short story that Neil Gaiman wrote for the Batman Black and White series, where Joker and Batman are just actors and have normal conversations that co-workers have while off-set.
@Soloman Grundy did you find out?
Cool comic👍
@Soloman Grundy
Sorry for the late reply (just saw your message); it's a comic that was part of the Batman: Black and White anthology series (I can't remember which graphic novel volume it was in though)...
Batman Black & White: A Black and White World
@@guilhermesiebeneichler1663
Yeah that was it! ^^
So let me get this straight:
The reason the Joker laughs at causing pain, receiving pain, and causing other heinous crimes is because he knows none of it is real? Whenever he laughs, he knows he is only harming fictional characters? It's like when he gets stabbed, he just laughs. This is because he laughs at it being not real and not actually meaning anything.
Am I right?
Super sanity seems even worse than insanity. The Joker is aware of everything and that it is all fiction. As such, *nothing* limits him.
Am I also right that he doesn't fear death because he will be brought back? Or does he just not care?
Sorta yeah I think
"It just so happens I have a very demanding public. I'm constantly striving to exceed their expectations! Do you have any idea how much pressure I'm under?"
Joker doesn't fear death but he fears cancellation. He knows that as long as people keep buying Batman comics he'll keep getting brought back. But if the fans lose interest, if people no longer care, if at some point in the future DC finds Batman stories are no longer profitable, then he's gone for good, and his entire world as well. In his own twisted way he is protecting the people around him in the only way he knows how. When Akrham Batman said "you fear being forgotten", he didn't realize just how right he was.
I'd love to see a Batman movie, where the Joker reveals all this to Batman and then something conveniently happens to erase Batman's memory of the whole thing. And because the audience would then be aware that the Joker knows he's a fictional character, he could point out what a big plot convenience that is.
Jay Lawrence I'll write that movie for you
If you’re serious that would be an awesome fanfic🙂
ha now that would be funny.
Or rather, he shows Batman the truth to make him super sane like him, but tries to erase his memories once he realizes that he'll have an arch nemesis to stop him.
I think you should be the writer of Batman!!
Another outstanding video!
You made the Nightwing series!
We sure did! :D
Could you guys think seriously on possibly making a spin off Deathstroke series?
Deathstroke is one of my favorites.
Next to Batman and Joker.
Hey can you do a VR MMU?
I'm glad you guys liked it! It's always a pleasure to see such big comic fans enjoying my comic content. :)
You just made me question if *I'M* real.
You drove me into an existential crisis.
Tom Lovett
I’ve been in a good number of those. Have fun with that.
First time?
you should watch "exurb1a"
Oh, Y'all better believe I'm still in that crisis
It's not fun.
Why'd y'all say it was fun?
@@puddlel1ama327 it's been 8 months holy shit
I'm at a complete loss for words. And it makes perfect sense.
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@@ignoranceisbliss5578 ..........
I think Batman also knows about all this, but he doesn't want to believe it . I found this video bc I was thinking in a scene where the League of Justice captures the Joker, I think it was in Injustice 1 or 2, when they were talking with the Joker, Wonder Woman was going to use the lasso of truth in the Joker and Batman stopped her, saying "don't use it on him, we don't know what is gonna get out of that mouth, but it's not gonna be the truth" and the Joker says "what don't you wanna believe batsi?" the quotes are inexact but the point is in there lol.
Diego farela9 because HE'S BATMAN.
In a way. Batman has stated that he thinks that the greatest joke the Joker pulled is by tricking the world into thinking he is insane.
Who didn't play GTA and run over "People" just to see what will happen? Joker is like us playing the game, but he's IN the game, knowing that it's just an entertainment.
WOW! That changes so *MUCH* about the Joker as a Character...
The joker is one of the most genius fictional characters of all time
Imagine though, what would you do if you suddenly where in a fictional universe and were able to do what ever you wanted
Oh my god you’re right
@@OriginalSparkstar we've the ability to Lucid Dream for a reason. Matter of fact we've the ability of imagination for a reason.
@@swazefay7457 the question is though, what are dreams?
“Not everyone’s here to see the batman, ya know!”
Almost no one is actually there to see the Batman. His villains, his friends, and the Bat family are what make his stories interesting. Batman's primary schtick is that he is the World's Greatest Detective. Its the crimes that the detective solves and the people they interact with that make his stories interesting, not the detective themselves.
@@Sewblon I respectfully wildly disagree batman as a character is extremely interesting yes everything around him is also great but it literally all come from him characterizations of his own you're wrong here batman is even better than characters with him if u say it's on the interactions with the others yeah obviously that's literally from him as well the way he interacts is the actual interaction
@@Elricsedric But what makes Batman interesting?
@@Sewblon everything about him his story his dynamic his ideal his whole character and personality and his characterization with each villain his struggles his inner conflict he's literally one of the most intriguing heros ever 😕
@@Elricsedric Batman does have the ingredients for an interesting character. If you strip away the superficial cool stuff, then he is really a man who lost his biological family and spent his life building a surrogate family to replace it. The versions that explore that aspect are good. But there are not many of them.
"All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream."
Siemasz surówka!
Sarah Surowka Your Rhyme Is SO Dope. LoL!
*The Joker*
The Joker has no psychiatric diagnosis. He's completely undiagnosable. He's highly developed, and he even has a really high sense of humor or sarcasm. He's also capable of manipulating other people's conscience, and is therefore essentially developed beyond all others. He essentially perceives things for exactly how they are, and dœs not have any unreasonable beliefs or chaotic behavior. It's actually very well controlled, and quite actually therefore very individualized: Such that it essentially comes across as whacky, funky, goofy or even nutty. He's even patterned out his own behaviors into repeated and therefore perpetual tendencies. The Joker is actually therefore even more sane than absolutely everyone else. Probably because his brain is more active than just about anyone else's. He's always correct, and he always says it exactly for how it is. He was once knocked into the Lazarus-Pit, but its essential induced insanity actually made him "normal". He even essentially knows that neither he nor his essential world of DC Comics books are real (which is literally the factor behind his own utter apathetic outlook of things and his blatant disregard for other comicbook characters), often communicates with his audiences and even remembers things from other paradoxes of DC and even of various crossovers that he's had, be it canon or be it uncanon (such as, remembering Spiderman from a previous uncanon past crossover, despite not ever even once being actually remembered by Spiderman). He's been repeatedly preemptively diagnosed with various essential personality disorders that have absolutely no connection with insanity. He's even once turned a page in his own comic, and has repeatedly gestured to the audience. He's been declared at Arkham Asylum as being not at all insane but rather completely, and get this one here: Supersane. And he was literally even capable of creating the character of Harley Quin, meaning that he essentially has the ability to create and therefore write his very own story of DC happening directly within the DC Comics reality by your courtesy (a.k.a: Yours Truly), "The Joker Himself". He's most certainly completely different from all other psychiatric or psychological cases (though especially at Arkham Asylum), and there's no real official solid so-called "diagnosis of insanity" at all (PERIOD) that can actually explain his nature because he's actually completely sane whereas it more completely seems like everyone else is basically only either "normal"(inbetween total sanity and total insanity) or insane. When Batman died, the Joker knew the writers would literally never kill off their title character and therefore immediately realized that without a Batman, there can be no Joker; He therefore immediately quit upon himself as the Joker, changed his name and essentially became "normal". He recognizes his role as the direct opposer of Batman, and is literally completely obsessed with him. His higher sense of reality and above-average level of sanity, therefore, might as well turn out to be a rather peculiar case of absolutely none other but of very high-functioning Autism.
*The Batman*
The Batman is most definitely an antisocial lunatic. He lives in a secluded bat-oriented technological spy-cave. He wears a supersuit and drives a supermobile just to repress his utter and total incapability to cope with the absolute death of his parents. He puts on a mask and plays with people out on the street, calling himself "Batman" to scare them. He tortures and even kills people for standing up to their repressors and that's his completely delusional sense of "justice": That "They get what they deserve" when they really don't at all, and he especially dœs it when or if it's essentially the completely other and therefore opposite way around. Batman often has but absolutely no "leg"(conviction) to stand on, probably a part of his utter delusionality, and noone would ever really deserve whatever dark, gut-wrenching, disturbing, disgusting, bloodthirsty, cold, sadistic, statistical, utter or extreme things that Batman would ever do to them; Absolutely everyone would deserve something far better than that. He has no conscience, no character, no personality and no soul.
HE IS JUST A PUPPET THAT SEES HIS OWN STRINGS
Edgar Allan Poe.
Wait could joker have convinced Harley they were in a comic book and that's why Harley is "insane/not
Hunter Pollard that would explain why she's obsessively infatuated with him. Plenty of comic book villains and heroes came on to Harley but no one would be able to replace her Mista J. She kinda sees him as a god more than a lover.
@@EJ-wr8bl shes over him already, the only reason that existed was because of Stockholm syndrome...she already tried to kill him.
Who says she wasn't trying to replace him...
If you lived in a fictional universe, and you knew it, and you knew you were second to joker, and you were aware the 'fans' knew you were second to joker.... how could you go wrong attempting to take his place?!?!
I'm pretty sure Harley is actually insane.
Blue Alchemist close! I agree with you in a way. She loved him before he told her anything I’m sure of it. I believe when he told her about the “truth” she looks at it as a movie with them as the protagonist Bonnie and Clyde. That’s why she doesn’t care if she Kills anyone either. She believes what he said is unconditionally true.
I think the scariest idea is that he is not insane. He is in fact perfectly sane fundamentally, and instead demonstrates the frightening limits of human sanity/nature. He knows what hes done with a normal psyche underneath, and is truly driven by emotion
So Joker is basically Permanent-Existential-Crisis Man? Tough to see yourself in a comic and people constantly looking at you.
Tyler, Mind Blown....... This is why the joker is the greatest villain of all time
+Kaine Parker what?
+Kaine Parker It was great until the deadpool war at the end
What the fuck.
I'm glad you liked it so much! Blowing minds is one of my biggest goals for the channel. :)
This was really interesting. This means that the joker is the most cunning character in the whole dc universe. Unfortunately he is the only one who understands this joke. Very good Video. Presence vs Joker.😲
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Interestingly bat mite is also in on the joke as he acted "for the fans" by cancelling batman the brave and the bold for the batman, and bat mite was chosen cuz his whole thing is that hes a fan from one dimension higher than ours so he knows what every batman fan likes and wants
@@HovektheArtist 2 dimensions higher than ours I think he's a 5th dimensional imp like mxyzptlk
Just one problem. My father's a psychologist and he told me a joke:
There was a man walking down a street past an asylum, and one of the patients there walked along the fence next to him, staring at him. The man walked faster, and so did the patient. He walked slower, and so did the patient. Finally, he turned to the man and asked, "What is it? What do you want?"
"Do you know why I'm in here and you're out there?"
"No, no I don't know why your in there and I'm out here. Why is it?"
"Because there are more people in the world like you than there are like me."
It's not very funny, but then it's not really supposed to be. It is, however, true. Fundamentally, we define sanity and insanity by normalcy. To be insane, to be a mental disorder, it first and foremost has to be abnormal.
So, if the Joker is aware of a reality radically different from the rest of the world, even if it is *our real reality*, then in the world of DC Comics, the Joker is psychotic. He has broken with reality and perceives a world very different from everyone else's.
Just like Deadpool. Deadpool is psychotic. He is disconnected from the reality around him. He lives in his own special world, where everything is a comic book and Wolverine is immortal because he's popular, and no one truly dies, and pain is an illusion, though he's still connected enough to say it hurts.
whats the joke
Was he looking at a mirror?
kasaundra falls
The 'joke' is just that one man is 'crazy' because the rest of humanity disagrees with him on reality.
We all see one moon when we look into the sky. If you meet a man who says he sees 3, all clear and about the same size, you think he's hallucinating, and everyone would agree with you. But if you were the only one to see one moon, and everyone else saw 3, you'd be the crazy one.
Colin Smith nah i think its because facehuggers released toxic fumes on the guys face
+Colin Smith
To be fair, I don't think neither Joker not Deadpool are psychotic. Being aware of another reality doesn't disconnect you from the one you're in.
I'll just stick to Deadpool for the moment. The people around him think he's psychotic because he's correctly aware of the reader and the fact that its a comic. I say correctly, because....he's not wrong. He just has a different perspective of the experience. Maybe if it wasn't real, as in a delusion or hallucination, you could argue psychotic. But our existence and the fact that he talks to us, the reader, that makes him not delusional at all.
And being aware of different realities doesn't equal psychotic unless you want to throw every single dimension jumping character into that group. Since a new dimension is essentially a new reality and of course said being would need to be aware of them. And even in one of the Superman animated movies, where Lex Luthor was able to acquire his powers, he was suddenly able to see how Superman see's things and it was on a different level of energy and everything. Not disconnected but definitely more aware and it changed his life because it changed his view of the world.
So I wouldn't regard neither Joker nor Deadpool, or anyone who is self aware as psychotic.
Actually this whole thing reminds me of The Sixth Sense.....anyway.
With regard to this statement "He lives in his own special world"...well yea. Technically we ALL do. None of us are living the same experience, we're just roles in each others personal journey. We just tend to get whats reality and whats normal brow beaten into our personal lenses at a very young age.
Anyway, I don't really think you pointed out a problem at all, unless that problem is the society that decides whats normal is closed minded in trying to see someone else's perspective. Apparently the moment Harley Quinn actually tried to see it from Joker's perspective, she became a bit self aware herself. And that in itself says a lot.
I was falling asleep when at 14:27 the joker yells “RIGHT!?” jerks me awake.
Eyy me too
I've known this about the joker for years, but I always like seeing the bits of comic that totally prove this is the reality of his "reality". He's really good to his fans, always doing his absolute best to entertain us.
....this... makes so much sense.
Kudos to you
How does it make sense?
Because it makes sense.
+Sam Dawkins how does it not? He's just like deadpool but less obvious and more interesting
This makes so much sense it could be "the big joke"
+quincey murray the killing joke
Yo Tyler you just blew my mind.
Thanks a lot! I do my best. :)
My mind just came.
+The Imaginary Axis you would be an awesome science teacher
Mind blown too
+Legend Gaming I think he is
Its the same concept why Joker laughs. He understands every single word stated here. That it is us that we decide how cruel can he be. Even with the new Joker movie, the same concept remains "I wasn't sure I existed, But I do." He exists because we sit there like voyeurs of looking at his misery. We're there to watch him breakdown and rise.
this is so crazy but actually makes sense. you made me love the joker even more as a villian and I've sucribed
Same here. This was bomb af
What if our world is a comic book? What if all those insane people are super same? Plato's allegory of the cave anyone?
Woah that's trippy
I actually thought the same thing. Read up on Carl Jung, I believe was his name. Interesting stuff!
And what if the writer of our world as a comic book is the Joker? D: D: D:
At the end we are all the same, people.
deep
"oohh I'm not crazy, no I'm not."- ledgers joker
This explains his "multiple choice" history.
That's why the Joker always makes us laugh whenever he's "performing"
He's like every GTA player
gta is a good game :)
+Nikoli Belinski except for 5 it sucked ass
that's not you being smart or brave, that's you being a dumbass, if you want people to know what you look like fine, don't come crying when a serial killer sees your face, searches you on facebook, gets your address and kills yo ass, good thing you changed it to the most boring cap I've ever seen, now get out of here with your white weak little threats.
"Gangsta Genie" most "Nigga your awesome" name in the world :/ ...
+Laura Maria I ain't worried about no serial killer "oh look someone's face lets search him up oh no I live in idk Texas and he lives in LA oh no" ain't gonna happen 😂
This is the best joker video I've ever seen how dose this not have 1 million views this makes a lot of sense
Annaliese Sux it does now luckily, it deserves more still though
1.2M my dude
“Great Cesar’s Ghost THATS IT.” Best line of the episode.
I can't stop watching this episode, Imaginary Axis. I just love this episode.
Thanks! I'm really proud of this one! :)
+The Imaginary Axis your awesome
+Anita Sarkeesian and you are just a neet who like to hate comment lol
same
+The Imaginary Axis its awsome i love your videos please reply it will really make my day.
“Hello! Clown here!”
Are you sure the Joker isn’t a youtuber?
He should be
This made me laugh really hard! Great one!
I've heard that he can't distinguish cries of anguish from laughter, and that might be mild delusion
Or he doesn't care...
+Eden Is A Unicorn He shouldn't care, he knows that the people he kills don't matter to the world he's in.
This only makes me love the Joker even more! He is absolutely brilliant! What a showman!
I mean if we stopped being entertained and stopped buying his comic, then he'd cease to exist.
Which is why he has to do more and more insane hijinks to keep us interested. Seems entirely legit.
"blaming this one on MatPat" haha excellent!
I've never thought Joker's insane. He's a perfectly sane but evil man who fakes insanity to avoid the death penalty and his whole "Clown Prince of Crime" persona is an act to make him seem insane when he's actually not.
Like he's the character but it's like he thinks he has to do it
I believe Joker is the very concept of Madness, because Madness comes in all forms, good, bad, hate, love, chaos and order. Batman is a form of Madness he's a grown man dressed like a bat fighting crime.
i think its just that he wants the comic books to not fail and he does not kill anyone because its a comic and if something unusual in the comic happened he would believe that he is not in a comic
How does insanity exempt someone from the death sentence anyway.
Maxwell Magee its not there fault (what did you say)
This is one of the best theory's I ever seen omg awesome!!!!
I read all of this in the sans noise with the quiet background of megalovania.
now i just want to see a joker x deadpool comic
deadpool: isnt it the most crazy character in the dc universe
i love this guy he is insane!
joker: you know...
when you keep break the forth wall it will get old
and old jokes arent funny!
I mean both of these characters know they are in a comic heck deadpool even killed the entire marvel universe because he knew he was in a comic and wanted to release everyone of their suffering because no matter how many times they died they would come back to die again for example wolverine a character loved by many fans he would come back again and again to die again that would really be a great story two guys who know more than anyone in their universe meet and talk about their world's and their ideas
You know,The Joker has his own Self-Demonstrating Trope Page on The TV Tropes Website as he's talking to *US* ,the fans.
He even *MENTIONS* about Deadpool,of how he's *NOT* much like him,and he practically hates Deadpool. Although he *DOES* loves and respects Deadpool's work of him murdering anyone as he sees fit. Funny isn't it? 😅😂
So... HE KNEW THE NEW 52 WAS FAKE ALL ALONG?!
Yeah and he didn't stop it! ....He's TRULY evil....
fucking joker!! he has no limits!!
Actrually he would know only if he took part there. Did he?
Technically the new 52 ISN'T fake. It's still canon, but DC Rebirth has found a way to make The New 52 AND pre-Flashpoint canon.
+LazyU|LazyPlays like the silver eyes novel, as cannon as the original story, but not linked
This is the best Joker theory I've ever seen.This is solid,factual and comprehensive research.The Joker knows he is a comic book character.
People didn't notice 1 thing He want to be insane he want to be scary because if he does know that he's a comic character then he's trying his best to well not be forgotten because when your forgotten in a comic book it equal that you don't make the creator any more money's and what happen when that happen ? You get erased you won't appear any more you will die in the comic since nobody want to see you because they don't like you anymore and the one who creating isn't getting anymore money
The one who creating you isn't making anymore money*
Like the last minute he explain it himself
Primal Groudon Wasn't that what Deadpool told to Wolverine in "Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe"?
A Random Clone Trooper add fucking punctuation next time.
A Random Clone Trooper that makes sense from arkum knight when the joker didn't want to be forgotten
13:40 gave me chills down my spine, Joker is now one of my favorite villains... like.... ever
This guys video quality is that of Game Theory, but with Comics... Comic Theory
+BattleScones well that's a bad thing
why do you say that, I mean, this happened for 2 fnaf theorists too, i accused one of them because he posted his videos after the other but it turns out i was being paranoid and they both came to the same conclusion, it's not ok to just accuse somebody like that, I've learned my lesson, learn yours.
yeah if you want to make a something that has done by someone people will always call you stealing ideas. rephrasing it etc etc. its as if what you did will always get some trademark that if i done it no one in this world should do it. what a dick.
its as if you can create your own idea. you know we all steal ideas from others and rephrase it and mark it with our own words.
Paul Manalo Exactly.
+Paul Manalo i never said he stole from MatPat. I love his videos, and the differences between the two.
My mind...has been blown. Bravo.
Same
same
Cybot2966 SAME
Ohhh my gosh!!! My mind is completely blown!! I never EVER expected that from the joker! It make completely sense now. I've always like the joker cuz he's just crazy and getting crazier such time I saw him, I just can't help but like the idea of him just crazy without a reason but now after this I just love the guy cuz he knew! He knew all the long, he was fake...
In the Heath Ledger version, the Joker even says “Schemers trying to control their ‘little worlds’. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempt to control things really are.”
Almost like he knows that they’re really pathetic attempts at control, as the story writers and the audience will always demand that the control be upset to create a problem for the hero to fix.
11:53 is it me or does the Joker seem very sad,lonley, and vulnerable in the left box? Supporting the theory that he's the only sane person and no one can ever relate to him, and it sort of saddens him that when he tells people the joke they don't get it, and he's the only one laughing. It's almost as if he's pleading with those in the comic and out to understand him.
Now im sad ........
As a Psychology student, honestly I always just assumed that The Joker would be considered a sociopath. I suppose the super sane theory makes sense in a way in terms of 4th wall being broken maybe, but it is quite possible for an individual to be intelligent and aware of their real surroundings while having a mental disorder (depending on the disorder). I just think that Joker is a sociopath that pretends to have different mental disorders. It may simply be part of the persona that he has created for himself. Although he may not suffer from psychosis he most definitely has a psychopathic personality which helps to classify him as a sociopath.
I have. Like I said, maybe he is pretending to have different disorders for his persona and maybe he has come to believe it. Maybe he simply also suffers from hysteria.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes Of course. I didn't say that he no mental issues. From what I can see he suffers from being a sociopath and he may be pretending to have other issues just for the sake of the character of "The Joker". I obviously have no idea if this is the actual case but that's what looks like to me.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes Oh no you're okay. You should see some of the RUclips arguments I've been in. This is a civil discussion, btw I like your username.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes Thanks!
But he feels
He TELLS you. "You're just another freak...like me." He sees everyone like HIMSELF but not ever reaching their true potential of exercising their WILL over the UNIVERSE. Otherwise he would be stopped, thus you, the system, the law, The Batman are all a JOKE. He is the pure embodiment of Hobbes Law. He who wields; reigns.
This kinda fits with the new Joker movie
"You wouldn't get it."
@@Waleeosa Jesus Christ my mind is blown ! OF COURSE HE KNOWS
Not really
no it doesn't not at all
@@odeiofunkdeputariarum851 that why i hate them movie. There version of Joker is "i am mentallly ill man feel sorry for me" i hate that vibe. This is real joker.
Maybe I watch way too many comic book videos but this isn't the first time I've heard a RUclipsr say that the Joker has supersanity and that he is completely aware of his existence as a comic book character. I enjoyed how you got to the conclusion. It was more researched based than just tossing out a theory without any line drawn.
There's a similar theory stating that TDK Joker knows he's in a film
well since at the core all jokers made are the same joker would make sense
+Paul Francis Goneda can you give the link ?
+Nabeel Majeed www.dorkly.com/post/73240/batman-fan-theories
That theory is "so intense!" I definitely agree with what your saying and I hope DC use or teases more of this theory!
Man I love the "so intense!" reference
The joker has always told us what his motivation is. "All it takes is a little push" "All it takes is one bad day". His entire purpose is to bring out the darkness that lies within us all, with a particular obsession with corrupting Batman. He is not insane because it is true. Anyone can be pushed over the edge under the right conditions and that is the scariest part.
But in real lifea lot of people can endure a lot and remain good people. Some people truly are that strong, and some people have conquered that darkness
No, what makes Joker more sane than people think, is his awareness that he is in a comic, His idea that nothing matters in the comics holds more weight considering his understanding of the 4th wall and the game and performance he’s basically been put in.
Technically he wouldn’t be responsible for a single death.
But yeah I never thought the philosophy of the killing joke was perfect
@@JonathanPaspula true a lot of people misunderstand the killing joke
11:53 Poor Joker on both sides of the picture his heart is broken that he is only one who gets the JOKE.
It's not as funny when you have to explain it to everyone
Actually makes sense, bcs after Jason's death the joker goes missing and presumed death after an helicopter crash, the next time we see him is in batman 450-451 where he is hurt and he still is the joker but he fears commtiing crimes because he forgot the '' joke'' (in the car crash). He repeats that he' has to find the joke again but we readers don't know what it is... Though if we imagine the joke is that the joker lives in a comic book universe then this arc really makes sense...
Joker: You are imaginary right?
Me: You tell me😏
I literally had chills when he said " have you ever thought that we're figment of their's"?
What this proves is that the writers who created/wrote joker are briliant.
Joker is a super sane....a SUPER SAYIAN!!!!!
Depression God NO HE IS...THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAYIAN!!
The number of walls he's breaking! IT'S OVER 9000!!!
At least he’s not INsayian! ;)
Batman's not dealing with the average insane anymore...
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
13:50 one of jokers best lines
im at 4:55
The line between being insane and a genius is very very thin
You're insane if people don't understand it. You're a genius if it makes sense - to them.
Very true.
+Weasel nah i kinda think of it as like normal people see it straight forward, deal with the facts they have and that's it thats how it is. insane people and geniuses try to see it at different angles, finding different explanations. the thin line between them is what angle u decide to look at most
+Weasel people dont have to understand it otherwise but evidence helps in deciding wut line u fall under
The only difference betwen insanity and genius is the efficiency.
9:38- My God...He's like Deadpool....only eviler and more like clown.
Deadpool: Yes, he's into the meta.
Supper sane huh... Where's the blond hair and the Kamehameha
+Julian Winston you spelled saiyan wrong. Don't correct if you're not correct
I think it's a joke
+Julian Winston just because you are german doesn't hive you the right to criticise others for bad grammar when yours ain't any better. "you hypocrite" being foreign isn't any excuse for jack shit (have a good day)
Simply put, the Joker is a capricorn.
you am no real super sand!!!!
I still say the neighbor's cat is an alien.
Puppycat ^_^
is that reference to kid vs cat?
Random Thats Me Mata Nui I have no idea...
The Ninja Kuma
Kid vs cat was a disney show in which the cat was an alien. Sorry about the long paragraph I though I was replying to a different post.
Neu
No it ran on Disney XD.
That's not an emote that part of the channel name.
Recent Rebirth comic supports this, with Joker complaining how story is getting ridiculous and that he and Batman are supposed to be fighting on the streets of Gotham and not go to the Moon
hilarious!..
Great theory. Just a minor correction, Spider-Man didn’t recognize him the second time because it was Ben Reilly, who had never previously met the Joker. Peter Parker was still Spider-Man in the initial Disordered Minds crossover when they met the first time.
I want you to re-read what you just wrote slowly and tell me that Comic books aren't crazier than the joker.
they should listen to harleen
teen comic gal yes, HARLEEN, not Harley
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You are the smartest man i have ever seen
Muhammad Lali I’m calling matpat
Shane Gurney Yea you’re right the only person I would even compare him to is Matpat
@@tyrannosaurusrex7753 lol no. I would compare someone from the nerdist.
You know. This makes even more sense when you think back at playing GTA or any sandbox where you can kill anything. You were the joker on that world.
“I'm not mad at all, I'm just......differently sane”
-joker
The way you said "You are imaginary right? Right?!" legit scared me. But us being real to the Joker must be as scary to him as the creatures in our daydreams turning out to be real would be to us.
Yeah... Batman isn't exactly what I call mentally stable
Ben B
He most certainty isn't
He is very much not sane a genius? Yes a good guy? Arguable but def not sane
Batman's insanity and The Joker's supersanity forms two full sanities, they compliment each other well
I never really cared for batman... idk y he's people's fav superhero
Joker is super sanity but batman is just a normal man in the comics, agree with me joker is much smarter than batman ,joker even broke the 4th wall which batman didn't
One thing that does stick out to me is a statement Joker made in TAS: "Without Batman, crime has no punchline." I think this also acknowledged his awareness of being a fictional character, and with Batman gone, he didn't have any purpose anymore.