@@cart02 i can when bannings would be just about cards taking away fun. After all, this was the reason for bans in the past. But if they would be consistent with that there would have been way more bans in commander.
@@questionyourself718 I guess it's possible. Personally, I don't like that justification but you're right if it sees a ton of play maybe they'll ban for "unfun."
Mondrak, glory dominus is absolutely insane in the 99 of myrkul, lord of bones. A token doubler, that also doubles as a sac outlet, that also synergizes with myrkul to come back as an enchantment when it dies... and it can give itself indestructible even as an enchantment... good lord... and when you sac your creatures to it, any non legendary creatures will come back as 2 copies of it as enchantments... and the fact it has phyrexian mana means you can pay life to get yourself to 20 or less life, making myrkul indestructible. good lord is all I can say.
My Giada deck could always use a little more boardwipe protection so I was thrilled to see Clever Concealment. Yes your life total can change and you are vulnerable for a turn cycle, but if the board was wiped there won't be much coming after you in most cases. Looking forward to resolving it for free the first time.
I mentioned this in another video but the +1 on Nissa is great in Trostani, where it gets you life and allows you to start working your populate engine. Moxfield deserves to be at least #5 at 9:12
I just pulled the white dominus and it's bittersweet because now I want a Parallel lives really bad since I have a doubling season and anointed procession in my token deck and it would be sweet to have all 4 of them.
I like Moxfield and I use it, but I think it really needs 2 important features in my opinion, to be able to filter searches based on price and to be able to filter out cedh/cedh primer decks. I don't build ultra budget decks by any means, but I am absolutely not willing to spend 500+ dollars on a deck just to play a commander at a moderately upgraded power level.
If there was a way to filter decks to their cheapest printing. Seems like every other deck on there has foil expedition and inventions for cards that are normally less than 5$ and Alpha sol rings.
Good morning you beautiful nerds! Hope you are well Joe and Beezy! Thank you once again for the daily videos. It must be hard work, but I appreciate you both for it!
I think I’m going to take apart my Atraxa +1/+1 deck and build a Toxic/Proliferate deck. I predict I will be very popular in my play group. I blame this set for all the cards with poison counters.😊
7:19 my moxfield senses are tingling - Theres a handful of cards that are neither big nor splashy in here, cankerbloom that new teferis protection-esque, another tamiyo's safekeeping in tyvar's stand.
My Norn deck is a lot of fun to play (using a proxy of course). Its largely a lifegain ETB where the lifegain triggers other effects. At the local LGS though, they nuked her every time I cast before it even went around once. Unfortunately for me, a player got lucky and milled my Swiftfoot boots early and the other protection stuff wasnt coming. The deck still did well without it's commander though and def look forward to bringing out the deck again.
It’s insane in every deck that wants to make tokens, but Mondrak is absurd with Otharri, Sun’s Glory. I’ve already tested it out and I’ve been blown away at its performance thus far. Being able to attack and instantly create 6 or more 2/2 tokens easily per turn is SO much value.
Fellow Yorioner here. I might try her out. The ability to remove something from the board for a turn cycle I think is more useful than self flickering.
I’m currently building an elesh norn mother of machines deck and I’m putting in field of the dead :) with a fetch land and flickering sun titan once it gives me 8 zombies which is pretty sweet
the mycosynth gardens have to tap to become a copy so wouldnt it stay tapped when it becomes a copy? That would still make the card good but you wouldnt be able to copy big mana rocks
@@DaGraveCrowder my “Rat” deck is different, I use about 25 different rats (of the 34 creatures) - rather than 25 of just one - it has 40 different lands as well its a “going to have fun playing as many different effects as I can” type deck…
I got a mondrak but dunno what to do with it yet. Sounds fun with ratadrabik tbh and the nightmare shepherd effects. Also got a venser that seem fun but there really isnt much proliferate in u/b.
I know this isn't relevant to the video but in a future video I was wondering if you could discuss mana crypt, demonic tutor, and there derivatives in mtgo. In non paper formats where the cards are available for ~10 dollars they are omnipresent and really prove that if cost wasn't a consideration they would be banned.
I've been looking at your videos of monocolored staples and they are around a year ok now atleast. I wonder with the rate new cards comes out, if you cold have a yearly reprisal of that kind of video. All these new cards this year so far and I'm like.. Looking through cards from baldurs gate to catch up and build with. I need to be a full time mtg employee or something to keep up.
It is worth noting that conduit of worlds is not able to cast any spell like those big x spells. it’s only permanent spells you can cast x creatures obviously ya but no big instants or sorceries x spells. All that being said yes it’s still amazing I run crucible of worlds anddddd the conduit of worlds because having the lands from the graveyard is so good in my landfall deck it’s a must to have try and get it every game
So Clever Concealment will always at least be two white mana. COVOKE only gets rid of the colorless casting cost. So good, but not quite as good as you were saying
Read convoke again, you might be pleased to be wrong if you already liked clever concealment. Lethal Scheme is my favorite removal spell ever because convoke is busted.
You definitely could, I'd be careful about giving away a ton of 4/3's though, one is no big deal but if you keep flickering it you might get punched a few times
I dont think Machine Mother is good enough to even be considered banned. It's susceptible to removal and can easily be dealt with by non etb effects. All in all its just a good card.
"Tergrid is bad in 99." Definitely not as good as a seck built around her but what about mishra, tamer of mak fawa or other decks where opponents will be sacrificing permanents
I don't believe Elesh Norm is ban worthy considering all other things in the list (could've been made double or even 3 white peeps for balance) ... However, because All colors can inflict Poison now, it should at least be moved to 20 Poison counters in commander
2 funfacts for nissa. 1. It is entirely possible to build a 5color deck with over 25 forests (she doesn't ask for basics) 2. I will personally never play her just because i hate inconsistent tokens, as in how likely is it to get even 2 of her tokens to be the same size naturally.
On Mycosynth Gardens Thanos: What did it cost? Nitpicking Nerds: Nothing Thanos: I am jealous Elesh was not actually that bad. I went 8-0 at prerelease with Elesh as my only rare/mythic in the deck, came in 2nd just because Elesh doubled the Rebel tokens on ''For Mirrodin'' and a couple other choice ETB creatures. Sadly despite being basically all Toxic creatures I never got to win with 10 poison counters :P LOL
Phyrexian Vindicator is broken and is definitely going to get banned. Auto include in every white deck and every deck to play against it has to build around it.
"do those universes have better ban lists?" died and woke up in one of the Elesh Norn ban universes, Kokusho is banned and recurring nightmare is unbanned due to format all-star mardu woe reaper, I'll let y'all be the judge 😎 Great episode y'all
I hadn't seen that card yet (I'd guess a lot of people hadn't) but yeah that seems insane, pretty much +3/+3 in your aggro deck for 3 Mana 😳😳😳 thanks for letting me know that exists
@@anonymoususer5351 not only in aggro it fits in every token deck which includes white and i am pretty sure you can just include it into every creature based deck without regretting it (maybe only if your commander cmc
Does anyone else think they should up the amount of poison that people have to get to lose? I think it's so easy to win with it now. An extra 5 poison for each player I think would make it a little more fun.
How is Mirran Safehouse not on here? It can be whatever you need it to be, AND it's an artifact, so even if you use it as an extra fetchland, you can just get it back with Muldrotha or the dozens of Artifact-matters commanders in the format.
I don’t want Machine Mommy to get banned but I need that Beezy apology special
I am a man of my word!
You think she will ?
@@georgemarquez4308 No. I can’t see any reasonable justification for ban
@@cart02 i can when bannings would be just about cards taking away fun. After all, this was the reason for bans in the past. But if they would be consistent with that there would have been way more bans in commander.
@@questionyourself718 I guess it's possible. Personally, I don't like that justification but you're right if it sees a ton of play maybe they'll ban for "unfun."
I played the White Dominus yesterday with Anointed Procession. Beautiful.
Art 🎨
Mondrak, glory dominus is absolutely insane in the 99 of myrkul, lord of bones. A token doubler, that also doubles as a sac outlet, that also synergizes with myrkul to come back as an enchantment when it dies... and it can give itself indestructible even as an enchantment... good lord... and when you sac your creatures to it, any non legendary creatures will come back as 2 copies of it as enchantments... and the fact it has phyrexian mana means you can pay life to get yourself to 20 or less life, making myrkul indestructible. good lord is all I can say.
Myrkul is good but I like Hofri better.
I thought Tyrranax Rex, aka T-Rex would be on here. 7 mana for a 8/8 trample, can’t be countered, toxic 4, ward 4, trample and haste. ITS A DINOSAUR 🦖
Not just A dinosaur a PHYREXIAN DINOSAUR :P LOL
Big dumb green creature is big and dumb? Shocker.
My Giada deck could always use a little more boardwipe protection so I was thrilled to see Clever Concealment. Yes your life total can change and you are vulnerable for a turn cycle, but if the board was wiped there won't be much coming after you in most cases. Looking forward to resolving it for free the first time.
I mentioned this in another video but the +1 on Nissa is great in Trostani, where it gets you life and allows you to start working your populate engine.
Moxfield deserves to be at least #5 at 9:12
LOL Moxfield may not be #5
I just pulled the white dominus and it's bittersweet because now I want a Parallel lives really bad since I have a doubling season and anointed procession in my token deck and it would be sweet to have all 4 of them.
I like Moxfield and I use it, but I think it really needs 2 important features in my opinion, to be able to filter searches based on price and to be able to filter out cedh/cedh primer decks. I don't build ultra budget decks by any means, but I am absolutely not willing to spend 500+ dollars on a deck just to play a commander at a moderately upgraded power level.
If there was a way to filter decks to their cheapest printing. Seems like every other deck on there has foil expedition and inventions for cards that are normally less than 5$ and Alpha sol rings.
I wish it could show me decks i have most of the cards for (and not just the blue tick when i do)
Mondrak and Elesh are busted in my Osgir equipment deck. At one game I had 6 copies of sword of fire and ice
Good morning you beautiful nerds! Hope you are well Joe and Beezy! Thank you once again for the daily videos. It must be hard work, but I appreciate you both for it!
Always appreciate your comments!
Don't forget about Amber
When you showed Eternal Wanderer, I immediately thought about my Brago deck.
I'm shocked that Venerated Rotpriest isn't on this list. That card is *scary* with how much potential it has to screw your opponents over
I think I’m going to take apart my Atraxa +1/+1 deck and build a Toxic/Proliferate deck. I predict I will be very popular in my play group. I blame this set for all the cards with poison counters.😊
Oh no. Beezy isn’t wearing into the AM shirt. Guess I gotta use the affiliate code again to keep him well dressed. Also moxfield add at 12:33
Please and thank you 😭😂
7:19 my moxfield senses are tingling - Theres a handful of cards that are neither big nor splashy in here, cankerbloom that new teferis protection-esque, another tamiyo's safekeeping in tyvar's stand.
My Norn deck is a lot of fun to play (using a proxy of course). Its largely a lifegain ETB where the lifegain triggers other effects. At the local LGS though, they nuked her every time I cast before it even went around once. Unfortunately for me, a player got lucky and milled my Swiftfoot boots early and the other protection stuff wasnt coming. The deck still did well without it's commander though and def look forward to bringing out the deck again.
It’s insane in every deck that wants to make tokens, but Mondrak is absurd with Otharri, Sun’s Glory. I’ve already tested it out and I’ve been blown away at its performance thus far. Being able to attack and instantly create 6 or more 2/2 tokens easily per turn is SO much value.
When I saw The Eternal Wanderer, I immediately started thinking about what to take out of my Yorion deck to make space.
I play Yorion too. What did you cut
Fellow Yorioner here. I might try her out. The ability to remove something from the board for a turn cycle I think is more useful than self flickering.
@@youngnikos9625 cut venser im sick of it
@@danewirostek1903 😢 I love Planeswalker Venser.
I’m currently building an elesh norn mother of machines deck and I’m putting in field of the dead :) with a fetch land and flickering sun titan once it gives me 8 zombies which is pretty sweet
YES I always approve of mono color Field of the Dead manabases
@@NitpickingNerds If sol ring is a crutch why is Field not? 😂
@@nickstart2299 I don't think either cards are crutches. Ones just kind of annoying and the other is questionably bannable fast mana. 😅
Top 20 woulda been easily achieved with this set. I fancy quite a few cards in it my self.
the mycosynth gardens have to tap to become a copy so wouldnt it stay tapped when it becomes a copy? That would still make the card good but you wouldnt be able to copy big mana rocks
Right!!
More Rats for my “You Dirty Rat (Ashcoat)” Deck! Course, these ten might be a teensy bit better…
Lots of copies of that new legendary rat too since it is included in bundles
@@DaGraveCrowder my “Rat” deck is different, I use about 25 different rats (of the 34 creatures) - rather than 25 of just one - it has 40 different lands as well its a “going to have fun playing as many different effects as I can” type deck…
6:04 someone at my store (store owner, actually) did this! Its a pretty wild thing to play against
Omg that's cool! How did they incorporate the spellbook IRL?
@@NitpickingNerds They had a little "sideboard" of the spellbook and just randomly chose a card every time they used Ishkanah's effect
mondrak is insane with helm of the host. I run the two in my Trostani deck, and in one turn I can create 6 copies.
I'm so looking forward to playing my Lord of Tresserhorn deck against the new Elesh Norn... ;)
I got a mondrak but dunno what to do with it yet. Sounds fun with ratadrabik tbh and the nightmare shepherd effects.
Also got a venser that seem fun but there really isnt much proliferate in u/b.
Primeval Titan is banned but this Elesh Norn is fine...
I know this isn't relevant to the video but in a future video I was wondering if you could discuss mana crypt, demonic tutor, and there derivatives in mtgo. In non paper formats where the cards are available for ~10 dollars they are omnipresent and really prove that if cost wasn't a consideration they would be banned.
cant wait to see that Beezy special apology video. oml
I am a man of my word!
Should do Top 25!! Great vid!
What colors are Amber’s 12-land stax deck?
I’m putting the nissa in my muldrotha horror tribal because it makes horror tokens and can do more if needed
I think the ad is going to be after they talk about the 4th card. Never we had to guess a time 🤔
I've been looking at your videos of monocolored staples and they are around a year ok now atleast. I wonder with the rate new cards comes out, if you cold have a yearly reprisal of that kind of video.
All these new cards this year so far and I'm like.. Looking through cards from baldurs gate to catch up and build with. I need to be a full time mtg employee or something to keep up.
i prefer mask of memory over glimmer lens
Mycosynth garden was my pick for best card zero mana copy a mana crypt seems pretty good!
Im about to be much less consistent with moxfield guessing, so let’s make this count. 15:20
appreciate the (incorrect) guess
Moxfield ad should have been in phyrexian text
It is worth noting that conduit of worlds is not able to cast any spell like those big x spells.
it’s only permanent spells you can cast x creatures obviously ya but no big instants or sorceries x spells.
All that being said yes it’s still amazing I run crucible of worlds anddddd the conduit of worlds because having the lands from the graveyard is so good in my landfall deck it’s a must to have try and get it every game
Venerated Rotpriest will probably face a standard ban before Norn faces any
I’m sorry but how does one think that glimmer cape is a good card while thinking phyrexian arena is also a bad card? That doesn’t make any sense.
I'm surprised the tyrranax rex didn't make it on this list
that set is straight fire
Can you try to find as many ways to abuse Monkey Cage triggers as you can lol
So Clever Concealment will always at least be two white mana. COVOKE only gets rid of the colorless casting cost. So good, but not quite as good as you were saying
Read convoke again, you might be pleased to be wrong if you already liked clever concealment. Lethal Scheme is my favorite removal spell ever because convoke is busted.
Ah I got to give it to u guys elesh norn number 1 , every one is hating on this card and it's good, just like sheoldred every hated and it's a banger
Are you putting Elesh Mommy in your GE Oketra deck?
What is a commander set can you only get those cards from pre cons ?
Mycosynth gardens taps for that ability... sol ring wouldn't work unless you can untap it right?
You untap it during your untap step.
Moxfield for sure is 12:34
The mycosynth gardens needs to be tapped in order to become a copy of another artifact. How does it work with Sol Ring?
It permanently becomes a copy of the target artifact. The effect does not end when the turn ends
@@midnightlemon4255 Oh. I see. Thank you
Happy Monday nerds :)
happy monday!
I have a feeling that infect/proliferate decks are going to cause many players to be unpopular with their play groups lol.
Hi nerds!
I want to add amphin mutineer to my sefris deck, should I cut ravenous chupacabra or shriekmaw?
You definitely could, I'd be careful about giving away a ton of 4/3's though, one is no big deal but if you keep flickering it you might get punched a few times
Yall missed the #1....
The cat
I dont think Machine Mother is good enough to even be considered banned. It's susceptible to removal and can easily be dealt with by non etb effects. All in all its just a good card.
Thoughts on Unctus, Grand Metatect?
Clever Concealment + Rotpriest + Vorinclex in response to a board wipe is disgusting
so where does one find this 12 land stax deck? :)
*puts the Planeswalkers on his thumbnail* Instantly false.
I am making the active choice not to play the eternal wanderer in my yorion deck because it is too oppressive
Is amber in the video guess: yes
Did I cheat? Yes
Cheating is okay with Amber guesses
Mycosynth gardens and dark depths c: just use liquimetal coating or something
"Tergrid is bad in 99."
Definitely not as good as a seck built around her but what about mishra, tamer of mak fawa or other decks where opponents will be sacrificing permanents
Where did Amber go?☹️
She had to dip!
"Do those universes have a better ban list?" 🤣
Elesh Norn is only playable in cards you want panharmonicon in. Also its a bad design tbh
Moxfield 8:42
appreciate the (incorrect) guess
I still think font of progress is the best
Amber is the reason I'm here
Drivnod not in the review??
Moxfield ad guess: 4:22
Doesnt Conduit of worlds can only play permanents from the grave?
We should have specified that you can cast big X spell creatures with it
Yes lol, it also only lets you use it on ur own turn
Scared me too when beezy said you could cast a big instant on someone else's turn lol
@@matthewfrederick9959 that would be pretty brutal
@@NitpickingNerds I am now at peace
What about atraxa
I don't believe Elesh Norm is ban worthy considering all other things in the list (could've been made double or even 3 white peeps for balance) ... However, because All colors can inflict Poison now, it should at least be moved to 20 Poison counters in commander
The crucible only let's you play nonland permanents.
We should have specified X spell creatures
2 funfacts for nissa.
1. It is entirely possible to build a 5color deck with over 25 forests (she doesn't ask for basics)
2. I will personally never play her just because i hate inconsistent tokens, as in how likely is it to get even 2 of her tokens to be the same size naturally.
On Mycosynth Gardens
Thanos: What did it cost?
Nitpicking Nerds: Nothing
Thanos: I am jealous
Elesh was not actually that bad. I went 8-0 at prerelease with Elesh as my only rare/mythic in the deck, came in 2nd just because Elesh doubled the Rebel tokens on ''For Mirrodin'' and a couple other choice ETB creatures. Sadly despite being basically all Toxic creatures I never got to win with 10 poison counters :P LOL
Mill, discard, counter, blue in general, and now poison…. I’m out
if mommy gets banned i'm officially selling all of my cards
Phyrexian Vindicator is broken and is definitely going to get banned. Auto include in every white deck and every deck to play against it has to build around it.
moxfield 12:32
7:38
Proliferation decks are going to ruin the meta with all those everyone gets a counter cards.
It's SO easy to proliferate.
Lol ruin the meta. If poison is too annoying people just wont play it. Same as land destruction, etc.
When this video says teferi's protection is lame over clever concealment as being cool. Haha
"do those universes have better ban lists?" died and woke up in one of the Elesh Norn ban universes, Kokusho is banned and recurring nightmare is unbanned due to format all-star mardu woe reaper, I'll let y'all be the judge 😎
Great episode y'all
I too worship cheese
I dont have any of these cards😤😖😓
I have Elesh norn but a proxies
Tergrid must have really hurt y'all in a game. 😆
WOOH AMBER
I am curious why nobody talks about skyhunter strikeforce. it seems absolutely brutal to me and definitly deserves to be in the top 10 imo.
I hadn't seen that card yet (I'd guess a lot of people hadn't) but yeah that seems insane, pretty much +3/+3 in your aggro deck for 3 Mana 😳😳😳 thanks for letting me know that exists
@@anonymoususer5351 not only in aggro it fits in every token deck which includes white and i am pretty sure you can just include it into every creature based deck without regretting it (maybe only if your commander cmc
MORE CAT
Teferi's Protection IS lame.
Lol u guys are great
Doesn't clever concealment require two white pips even if you convoke?
Not if you tap white creatures
Read Convoke's reminder text again.
Tapping a white creature can pay the white pips
Does anyone else think they should up the amount of poison that people have to get to lose? I think it's so easy to win with it now. An extra 5 poison for each player I think would make it a little more fun.
How is Mirran Safehouse not on here? It can be whatever you need it to be, AND it's an artifact, so even if you use it as an extra fetchland, you can just get it back with Muldrotha or the dozens of Artifact-matters commanders in the format.
Elesh Norn is bannable because it will find its way into almost every deck with white in it since it is too easy to cast in multi-colored decks, imo
Not Nissa, No.
You play a deck that isn’t fun for gameplay, I’m out