Great effort and i appreciate your work. I have a small request for you. Could you also add average of gpu,cpu power consumption, Ram and Vram on right side of them where there is little space left so that we could easily evaluate the comparisons.👍
actualmente Intel es el que hace procesadores costo beneficio. Solo la 7ma y Octava generación eran exageradamente caros. Y la Decima generación sigue siendo mejor que la tercera generación de Ryzen. Hasta el i7 4790k sigue siendo un procesador potente, y el i5 9600k una leyenda. Ah y i3 10100F>R3 3100 Aunque yo tengo ryzen 3 3100 porque las placas vinieron antes y no había casi stock.
Dude, im glad you made this in such a simple way, my B450 just barely meets the requirements to use a 5k series Ryzen 5 so with just a bios update I know exactly what chip im getting, would definitely help with my VR games that are CPU intensive
I upgraded from the 1600 to the 3600 after Christmas. Actually it should be the 5600x. because of availability and price I changed my mind. It's still a pretty good upgrade. Haven't regretted it so far.
@@jasonfromprx I don't know your budget. At current prices, you could potentially go straight to the 5600x. That should be possible with a bios update. Otherwise, the 3600 would be a nice boost compared to the 1600.
@@benn87 I currently have a A320-m motherboard and around $120 worth of savings... im currently planning to buy: 144hz monitor, cpu upgrade, and motherboard upgrade and i can only afford one of them for now.. the next time i'll upgrade would probably a few months after december right now, my cpu and mobo is working just fine, and i currently own a 60hz monitor so if i were to buy a 5600x, i would have to pay extra for a mobo because my a320-m cannot support a 5600x, 3600 however, is compatible, so no worries about it.. i dont really have a lot of budget to buy these 3..
in my country, a 144hz monitor would cost around 120$ the ryzen 5 3600 (from a used market) is like 65$, 5600x brand new or not, costs the same at around 100-120$.. so if i were to buy a ryzen 5 3600, it would leave me with a 60$ extra
In my country, cost difference between 2600x and 3600x is 140 Euro's and difference between 2600 and 3600 is 65 Euros. So getting 2600 for its performance and cost is definetly good choice. and buying 3600x is not worth.
Man, this is what people mean that CPU bottlenecks the GPU. Look at the GPU utilization on each processor. The 1600x can only utilize around 40-60% of the RTX 3080 while the 5600x hovers around 80-90%. That means you get more of a performance boost on a newer GPU. Overclocking can match these odds but only a little.
Yeah, looks like you were CPU bottlenecked before. Good to see you found a good pairing. I'm going froma 2600X to a 5700X as upgraded to a RTX 2080 and now getting stutters with the 2600X.
Remember when ryzen 5 cost less than 200$ ? That was a long time ago, now they cost 350$ which is DOUBLE the price of what i picked the 3600. And at that price of 350$ i'd easily get an i9 10900f.
Wich has similar performance and worst consumption. Don't wanna sound like an AMD fanboy but the price is at least understandable. I really hope in Intel comeback tho, we really need competitors in this price point
@@sbarabulbo simmilar performance? The 5600x is neck to neck with 10700k and the 10900f is the same as the 10900k. So no, the 10900f is much better has 4 cores more and costs less. If you think some extra watts enough for you to call him worse than the 5600x i cant continue speaking to you. With the same logic turin (rtx 2000) is better than ampere (rtx 3000) because they have lower power consumption.
@@lazgets2197 mmmm neck to neck, depends. There're some specific task where the R5 5600x is much better than both intel cpu, but for multitasking, work in general the i9 is just excelent. All depends on the context. ruclips.net/video/sdAEg_cd8Xk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/6wMIAelEgLQ/видео.html If u only play videogames well @Mattia Sanna is right.
@@lazgets2197 Right, but what thats say to you? Nothing? That the i9 is better by 20 fps max? Again, if we talk about videogames considering everything , price, watts, performance, access to upgrade - to a possible next gen -, heat, etc. the R5 is better. Now, if you say something like be the top, high-end, work in belnder, 3Dmax, zBrush, rendering, multitask, obviously the i9 is the best .
People forget but this channel is what's the best there is on youtube. He doesn't have promos, no like and subscribe. Nothing. Hit you with the clear well edited info and period. DONE! GET OUTTA HERE! I thought those kinds of channels were long gone, but I was happily made wrong.
Great effort and i appreciate your work. I have a small request for you. Could you also add average of gpu,cpu power consumption, Ram and Vram on right side of them where there is little space left so that we could easily evaluate the comparisons.👍
I currently have Ryzen 1500X, and I'm willing to upgrade to 7600X. If there's THAT big difference between 1600X and 5600X, I'm looking forward as hell.
Nice review, but keep in mind this is at 1080p with a 3080. If using a midrange or lower card or playing at higher resolution the difference narrows greatly.
Pisses me off AMD dropped support for 5600X with the B350 series. It's the biggest step up for the AM4 platform. I would absolutely upgrade my 1600X to it if I could. The 3600X doesn't really make much sense to upgrade to. I was planning on buying the first gen and then switching to the last chip for the AM4 platform.
Just wait and get AM5 so you can be futureproofed. I have a B350 mobo and 1600 and was keeping hopes high to upgrade to a 5600 but it ain't happening unfortunately.
I was coming from a Fx 6300 to a 3600x and it was a night and day difference. The 5600x is a great chip but not for more than $300. I will wait and see what the new Am5 platform brings 🙏
The AM5 platform is a little overpriced so I am upgrading to a 5700x for $198. This will hold me over for a couple years then I will hop on the AM5 platform when it has matured a little more and a couple generation of AMD cpus release on it
@@spartanwill1474 id recommend the 5700x over the 5800x! Its cheaper, power efficient, but while still having very similar performance to the 5800x. The 5700x has been treating me very well so far!
@@Bdot888 what Motherboard goes well with it, if i may ask ofc And if it's not rude, what is the best setup for the 5700x in your personal experience? I'm starting to build my first gamer/streaming pc and i want to maintain a consistent performance and speed! It's always been a dream of mine to have a stronger cpu, so i'll use it till it's incapable of getting around new stuff tbh
That gains are really crazy. From Zen to Zen 3 the gains are at times up to 80%. To get the same kind of gains you would have to go from the Core 2 Quad Q9550 all the way to a 6600K (same core count and memory channel configuration). This took 8 years, 3 different types of RAM and 5 different sockets. AMD did this on the same platform with the same kind of RAM within 3.5 years. You could have even used your X370 or B350 board if AMD haven't become too greedy due to their success. Just is just mindblowing!
Also add in that gains generally become harder to make the more you advance. I would add that I heard that the b350/x370 boards were lacking in some aspects, maybe the bios chips or something? If they invested a little more at first, it probably would've been better. But they were way behind Intel, so profit margins and pricing on products had to be very competitive.
@@danielzhang5842 At the time when X300 launched a 32MB ROM was hard to justify (16 was standard), as it would have increased the cost of mobos significantly. Moreover AIBs weren't willing to take the risk, as they expected Zen to do poorly in sales. Asus themselves said it would have been possilbe to make 5000 on X300 work though and that they would have liked to offer a BIOS to consumers. Unfortunately AMD smelled the money...
@@ryutenmen He means the bottleneck you get if you pair low end cpus with a high end graficscard. Bottleneck would be lower with a mid tier graphicscard
As a 2600X owner. Look forward to dropping in a 5700X/G into my system. Might get better frame times with The card I have. Instead of seeing constant lag spikes...
Please get 5700X and don't buy 5700G. people have reported massive performance difference on 5700G vs 5600X/5700X. Somehow the APU performs really bad with you pair it with discrete gpus.
So about a 20% increase in AVG FPS when going from one generation to the next. So now decide for yourselves is the 5600x worth it over the 3600x? in layman's terms is it worth spending like 100$ more for about 20% more performance ?
Ryzen interup CPU market totally! whit Ryzen you surely have cores to keep up and if wuold buy intel i wuold have i5 6600k + motherboard and i7 9700k whit another motherboard. bought Ryzen 1700 + X370 motherboard and upgraded to 3700x and i am so happy whit performance. it might take a while when all those cores are stressed beond 50% (Raindowmsix siege CPU usage 70% whit +300fps)
I'm still having R5 2600 with rx 5700 xt not problem at all. But fps can be like 40-50,% more with ryzen 5600x I will upgrade probably when the R5 5600 non X comes out, I hope it will be much cheaper because the current price for 5600x is 400 euros
@@abcdefghigklmnopqxyz I bought a ryzen 7 3700x from aliexpress for 250 USD, used but works fine. The best store to buy CPUS from aliexpress is SZCPU store. also always film your aliexpress unboxing because if you get scammed you have a good chance of getting your money back. But even on Aliexpress the 5600x price isn't that great if i'm gonna be honest
Nice. I've been thinking of upgrading from my 2600x, although I don't think I'll upgrade right now until the next generation after Zen 3. Thanks for the comparisons.
buying the expensive CPU instead of expensive GPU give you nothing. In reality if you buy 3080 for 4k gaming even 10400f will be enove for give maximum FPS on ultra settings on 4k resolution. This video only shows the maximum possible fps on each of these CPUs. In reality on 4k resolution on ultra, you won't see nothing difference between these CPUs.
lol, 1600x was dogshi* (for gaming only though), the i7 used to deliver like 10-15 fps more on the same generation. The gap finally got to 0 this "gen" (again, on gaming, everything else the ryzen are MUCH better).
@@evomichel9900 if 1600x gaming perf was dogshit then 7600k perf was dogshit as well at the launch date it had around same gaming perf and once 7600k oced to 5ghz it outperformed like 10-20%. The gap between them went smaller and smaller and in recent year or so it outperforms drastically in most cpu demanding games.
@@raven2642 no amd ryzen 7000 will only work on AM5 mainboards. I recommend checking out 5600X/5700X/5800x3D depending you your budget. If you come from 2600X then its worth it in my opinion. I noticed a big difference in 1% fps and lag spikes especially in VR going from 3800X to 5800x3D.
Impressive for 1080p. Forgive me for saying this, but if you can afford a 3080 and ANY of these processors and you're gaming at 1080p, there's a problem.
clock 3.7ghz , 4.1ghz , 4.25 ghz , 4.65 ghz Creo que entre 1600x y 2600x no hay mucha diferencia en el rendimiento si la velocidad del reloj se iguala a las mismas frecuencias. I think that between 1600x and 2600x there is not much difference in performance if the clock speed is equal to the same frequencies. It already changes with the 3600x model (zen 2), its internal architecture is practically different, now if we talk about zen 3 it is already a lot of change
Regarding Cyberpunk 2077, The goal of CD Project Red was to make a techical demo ... they didn't optimize the game for older hardware at all. The system requirements were just a joke. i7-4790K that's recommended cannot get 60 FPS minimums on this game.
@@mikeserds2333 yeah sure, you can pair 5600x with 3090 running cyberpunk at native 4k with chance of stuttering and high frametime. thats why most good gpu benchmarks using high end cpu like 12900k or 5950x to ensure the gpu runs most of it potential hindering cpu bound in some cpu demanding cases like cyberpunk. 5600x has sweet spot of 3060ti or equivalent.
@@ClarenceFM The 5700xt is plenty good for 2K at 60+fps and can also do some light to medium 4K gaming but if you want 4K at 60 and even high fps 2K then go for the rtx 2070 super.Keep in mind that the rtx 2070 super is more expensive
@@15Stratos 2K? 2048*1080p FHD at 17/9? Or QHD 2560*1440p? Also 5700XT doesn't have ray tracing and DLSS and that's shit. Nvidia wins as always. 3060Ti destroys 5700XT.
This is awesome but to me the take away is that the entire AM4 platform Ryzen family is excellent for gaming. - This is at 1080p. Jumping to 1440p the CPU will be delivering roughly the same frames but you will likely become GPU bound. In other words, if you are just gaming, put your upgrade dollars at GPUs first. - The only game where the 1600x and 2600x couldnt get above 60fps was Flight Simulator. Lets be honest, if Flight Simulator is your jam, you know you have to shell out the $$$. - The 3600 is going to have a VERY long life as a gaming CPU. I have sad for a while I think it is going to be the new i7 47xx. I predict that people will still be happily gaming with 3600s when 6xxx series Nvidia GPUs are released. - A 58003D or 5900 based gaming system will be viable for AAA gaming in 2030. A 5900 can push Horizon Zero Dawn to 165fps at 1080p Ultimate. It will be a long time before all but the highest end GPUs can handle the frames it can push at 1440p or 4K. Bottom line - you can build an AM4 based computer now and be very happy with your gaming for a long time. Great job AMD!
Sooo... The takeaway here is that performance scales realy well when you increase clock speeds. The differences from 1600X to 3600X are almost entirely in line just with the clock differences. The tiny bit extra above that that the 3600 demonstrates is the IPC increase from Zen 1 to 2. Same with the jump from 3600X to 5600X - 65% clock speed increase, 35% IPC increase/die shrink. But notice that the actual CPU usage doesn't increase (between generations), showing that most games are still limited to only using 4-ish cores. Thats not to bag on AMD here. Being able to GET those clock speed increases is great. A refinement in Zen 3 that lets them reliably hit 5ghz would be the bees knees. Another big takeaway is that a 1600X is still a good CPU. At no point, even in Cyberpunk, does it hit "bad" performance. So i think its a serious win that an almost 4 year old, decidedly mid-range part has held up so well.
here are prices of the local CPUs I could find: Ryzen 5 2600X = 189 euro Ryzen 5 3600XT = 299 euro Ryzen 5 5600X = 459 euro how is this even an improvement? they keep getting A LOT more expensive! unless you are only gaming it's better to just buy the Ryzen 7 3700X for 374 euro instead of the Ryzen 5 5600X because extra 2c/4t is better...
ok fun fact: roughly 1 year later my country sells the 5600X for only 289 euro which is a bargain compared to last year LOL! also 5600G for 229 euro and now the 5500 for 139 euro (might be best bang for the buck)
y si fuera con una GTX 1080 es la misma diferencia a favor del 5600x? tengo un 1600x y quisiera cambiarlo por el 5600x pero no se si vale la pena el cambio realmente
The Cyberpunk benchmark is not the most accurate since the CPU starts bottlenecking around crowded areas. I play on a 3600 and 3070 and in the Market area get 40fps, meanwhile on empty roads like this its 20fps higher
But that’s only because they were so far behind and still are generally a little behind in single threaded. Multi threaded they win easy as they have more cores for the money. The performance difference between intel and AMD at single threaded is so small it doesn’t matter against the lower cost and thermals of ryzen and this is why I recently went from a 2012 6c/12t Xeon 1650v2 overclocked to 4.5ghz all core to a 6c/12t 3600x also overclocked to 4.5ghz all core, it’s faster, cooler, has native nvme support and pcie 4.0. I can’t see me upgrading my cpu for a while, I’ll get a used 5000 series or something in a few years.
Why is that in cyberpunk game all cpu usage are the close? Isn't it suppose 5600x should have less usage than 1600x because the gap of their architecture difference?
In my country , 10700kf is 410$ , 3700x for 460$ and 5600z for 450$ ( NOTE: these are sale prices , in real price 10700kf is 490$) I think I would be much happier with 10700kf + Hyper 212 evo rgb worth 50$ , so I can even overclock a li’l bit . Yeah! I know that all shit that amd has better upgradability and all that shit , but I will use this for atleast 4 years , and I am blessed enough to earn 200$ more for motherboard at that point of time , but I don’t want to compromise in performance , agree or not that it is a lot compromise in ryzen 2 zen , and 5600x is still overpriced for me .
@Martiandeath 7004 hmm. yup actually I would say both the cpus are gr8 , but the fanboyism is the one thing that destroys them Intel 10th gen though is more worth and more performance oriented than amd’s 3rd gen cpus , and amd 5th gen cpus are so overpriced (at least in my area) it depends from region to region where you live , if u get intel in a range of 30-40$ corresponding to same ryzens’s cpus , you should go for intel for long run , as intel is far more reliable than amd in long run , then buy a + 70$ cooler , and here you are , with spending around 100$ more , but you get 1 more year of its use , and more performance throughout the period I am saying with experience , i use i7 7700x and I am using it for 6 more months , as my number in queue for rtx 3070 is 6 months from now, It does not lag behind in any games at ultra setting even now , but it is just that I want to refresh my hardware , so I am upgrading. and it still competes gr8 with amd’s so called innvative cpus like r3 3600 . so if you get an intel + cooler in around 100$ more from ryzen cpu , I suggest you go for it
its good to see the evolution of diffrent generation of ryzen 5 the bigest diffrence is between ryzen 3600x vs 5600x this video need un update add ryzen 5 7600x in the benchmarck.
Remember it is a 3080. I have 2600oc + 2060s, there the difference is very little. Still if I updated to a 3070 or 3060ti I could increase resolution and still keep my cpu or change cpu + video card and create a budget build with the retire parts.
Very excellent gains in just 3 years. Meanwhile, silly people are still recommending buying more cores than necessary for 'futureproofing', as if that alone would make them satisfied 5 years from now with whatever gaming cpu they buy today.
i bought 2600x and b450 asrock hdv 4.0. is operated by the 4th gen. ryzen. worth changing in a year to 4th gen. how will the 5th gen come out? sry spelled with translate: (
Usually the engines are not optimized for so many cores / threads, so the CPU usage looks like this: CPU 60%: Core1 87% Core2 99% Core3 79% Core4 16% Core5 8% Core6 13%
there is something wrong with the ryzen 3600x, it is low in frequency. I have this cpu and in boost the frequency is very close to 4400 mhz, why doesn't it go beyond 4250 mhz here?
The generational leap with Ryzen cpus is massive, AMD had fallen far behind. The competition AMD brought to the table forced Intel to innovate again and we see this now with the 13th gen Intel cpus. Intel was resting on its laurels for years, rightfully so, they had the better option but as soon as the 1st gen Ryzen hit the market, it was a wake up call. Its actually insane how far Intel has come from the quad core i7s that were priced at $349. This is why fanboying is dumb, instead of rooting for a team, root for innovation.
Month before Ryzen 3600 was released i was about to buy 9400f that had only 6 threads, even 9600k was not a great deal since it was expensive in my country and also had 6 threads. There was no reason to buy midrange Intel CPU at the time compared to 3600
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7600k vs 1600x vs 8600k vs 2600x vs 9600k vs 3600x vs 10600k vs 5600x
i really like to see the performance of a cpu against it's overclocked version
for example : 1600 vs 1600OC to 3.9GHZ
Win And
minecraft
A very consistent increase in performance. This is satisfying
That's what ur mom said
And price xd
sans ipc
On 1440p it'll probably flatten a bit. I'll keep my 3600 for now.
@@SgtRock4445 On 1440p it completely flattens within like a 3 percent margin. 3600 vs 5600.
in the video, the power consumption of processors is displayed incorrectly, the real power consumption on all 4 processors is ~ 20W higher!!!
Why is that?
Great effort and i appreciate your work.
I have a small request for you. Could you also add average of gpu,cpu power consumption, Ram and Vram on right side of them where there is little space left so that we could easily evaluate the comparisons.👍
@Annihilator616 you assume that all CPU with 65w TDP gonna draw just that 65w ? How idiot 😂😂😂
@@Bloomsberrybubble how idiot? lmao! the irony
You are bad overclocking the 5600x wit pbo2 and curve optimazer you can do 4.850 mhz in all the cores
Meanwhile in our Universe, Intel - +5% +5% +5% +3% +1%
+19%
@@superiorgalaxy2009 You mean price or tdp? :)
@@endody9519 nice one, fuck intel
actualmente Intel es el que hace procesadores costo beneficio.
Solo la 7ma y Octava generación eran exageradamente caros.
Y la Decima generación sigue siendo mejor que la tercera generación de Ryzen.
Hasta el i7 4790k sigue siendo un procesador potente, y el i5 9600k una leyenda.
Ah y i3 10100F>R3 3100
Aunque yo tengo ryzen 3 3100 porque las placas vinieron antes y no había casi stock.
@@BicheCS Do you remember the FX processors?
Dude, im glad you made this in such a simple way, my B450 just barely meets the requirements to use a 5k series Ryzen 5 so with just a bios update I know exactly what chip im getting, would definitely help with my VR games that are CPU intensive
How big is the difference? Availability
Get it from aliexpress
@@abcdefghigklmnopqxyz bruh
Price is also a big difference
You get the 5600x without problems 🤣
the price as well :D
As someone who just bit the bullet and ordered a 5600x last night to replace my 1600x, this video is pleasing
Answer : Each one has a jump of around 20 - 30 fps in most cases
I upgraded from the 1600 to the 3600 after Christmas. Actually it should be the 5600x. because of availability and price I changed my mind. It's still a pretty good upgrade. Haven't regretted it so far.
im thinking about upgrading to the 3600x, just like you, I also have a 1600x... in this case did you regret it a couple weeks later? should I buy it?
@@jasonfromprx I don't know your budget. At current prices, you could potentially go straight to the 5600x. That should be possible with a bios update. Otherwise, the 3600 would be a nice boost compared to the 1600.
@@benn87 I currently have a A320-m motherboard and around $120 worth of savings...
im currently planning to buy: 144hz monitor, cpu upgrade, and motherboard upgrade and i can only afford one of them for now.. the next time i'll upgrade would probably a few months after december
right now, my cpu and mobo is working just fine, and i currently own a 60hz monitor
so if i were to buy a 5600x, i would have to pay extra for a mobo because my a320-m cannot support a 5600x, 3600 however, is compatible, so no worries about it..
i dont really have a lot of budget to buy these 3..
in my country, a 144hz monitor would cost around 120$ the ryzen 5 3600 (from a used market) is like 65$, 5600x brand new or not, costs the same at around 100-120$.. so if i were to buy a ryzen 5 3600, it would leave me with a 60$ extra
I'd like to see each CPU set to the 3.7ghz of the original ryzen 1600 to see the pure architectural differences with the clocks exactly the same!
Well I kno going from a 2700X to a 5950X with 8 cores disabled and running 4.0ghx both all cores the 5950X is more than 45% faster
I regret my 2600X purchase. I didn't even know 3600X was coming out a few months later for a lower price. :(
In my country, cost difference between 2600x and 3600x is 140 Euro's and difference between 2600 and 3600 is 65 Euros. So getting 2600 for its performance and cost is definetly good choice. and buying 3600x is not worth.
What card do you have?
@@giedriusgu7033 2600 is 100% bottleneck with RTX 3000 or RX 6000.
@@Blacktrous who said i was gonna pair it with rtx 3000 or rx 6000
@@giedriusgu7033 Well I mean if you are trying to play demanding games like cyberpunk or any games on this list then that would be expected.
Man, this is what people mean that CPU bottlenecks the GPU. Look at the GPU utilization on each processor. The 1600x can only utilize around 40-60% of the RTX 3080 while the 5600x hovers around 80-90%. That means you get more of a performance boost on a newer GPU. Overclocking can match these odds but only a little.
you genius, bus this is the sense of these tests, CPU must be bontleneck for fair battle
Это влияют разные тех процессы и архитектура первые два поколения райзенов это по сути бета тест амд у них проблемы были с их чиплетами...
Each Gen looks like a nice bump in performance.. This is the way to release next Gen Processor.
Just upgraded from 1600x to 5600. Huge massive difference. 1% low is like 1600x avg fps on the 5600...
Yeah, looks like you were CPU bottlenecked before. Good to see you found a good pairing. I'm going froma 2600X to a 5700X as upgraded to a RTX 2080 and now getting stutters with the 2600X.
3:38 ach, there comes my favourite music from Horizon Zero Down!
First time hearing it. It is really, really good!
A test regarding 7700K VS 8700K VS 9900K VS 10900K vs 11900k?
+ 8600k/9600k and all 5ghz oc.
Remember when ryzen 5 cost less than 200$ ? That was a long time ago, now they cost 350$ which is DOUBLE the price of what i picked the 3600. And at that price of 350$ i'd easily get an i9 10900f.
Wich has similar performance and worst consumption. Don't wanna sound like an AMD fanboy but the price is at least understandable. I really hope in Intel comeback tho, we really need competitors in this price point
@@sbarabulbo simmilar performance? The 5600x is neck to neck with 10700k and the 10900f is the same as the 10900k. So no, the 10900f is much better has 4 cores more and costs less. If you think some extra watts enough for you to call him worse than the 5600x i cant continue speaking to you. With the same logic turin (rtx 2000) is better than ampere (rtx 3000) because they have lower power consumption.
@@lazgets2197 mmmm neck to neck, depends. There're some specific task where the R5 5600x is much better than both intel cpu, but for multitasking, work in general the i9 is just excelent. All depends on the context.
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If u only play videogames well @Mattia Sanna is right.
@@Gstandalone there are ton of videos comparing the 10900k/f/kf to r5 5600x and the i9 is always 5-20 fps ahead.
@@lazgets2197 Right, but what thats say to you? Nothing? That the i9 is better by 20 fps max? Again, if we talk about videogames considering everything
, price, watts, performance, access to upgrade - to a possible next gen -, heat, etc. the R5 is better. Now, if you say something like be the top, high-end, work in belnder, 3Dmax, zBrush, rendering, multitask, obviously the i9 is the best
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People forget but this channel is what's the best there is on youtube.
He doesn't have promos, no like and subscribe. Nothing. Hit you with the clear well edited info and period. DONE! GET OUTTA HERE!
I thought those kinds of channels were long gone, but I was happily made wrong.
Great effort and i appreciate your work.
I have a small request for you. Could you also add average of gpu,cpu power consumption, Ram and Vram on right side of them where there is little space left so that we could easily evaluate the comparisons.👍
It's wild how the gpu usage increases with the better the cpu
That is a lot of work, thanks for sharing!
I currently have Ryzen 1500X, and I'm willing to upgrade to 7600X. If there's THAT big difference between 1600X and 5600X, I'm looking forward as hell.
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Hi, can you do the same tests only with Ryzen 7 and add cinebench tests for example, thanks in advance
Thank you. Do the same test at QHD please
Nice review, but keep in mind this is at 1080p with a 3080. If using a midrange or lower card or playing at higher resolution the difference narrows greatly.
Didn't know I needed this
Pisses me off AMD dropped support for 5600X with the B350 series. It's the biggest step up for the AM4 platform. I would absolutely upgrade my 1600X to it if I could. The 3600X doesn't really make much sense to upgrade to.
I was planning on buying the first gen and then switching to the last chip for the AM4 platform.
Just wait and get AM5 so you can be futureproofed. I have a B350 mobo and 1600 and was keeping hopes high to upgrade to a 5600 but it ain't happening unfortunately.
I was coming from a Fx 6300 to a 3600x and it was a night and day difference. The 5600x is a great chip but not for more than $300. I will wait and see what the new Am5 platform brings 🙏
The AM5 platform is a little overpriced so I am upgrading to a 5700x for $198. This will hold me over for a couple years then I will hop on the AM5 platform when it has matured a little more and a couple generation of AMD cpus release on it
@@Bdot888 same! IV been on 2600x for a long time and seeing prices now I'm just gonna wait on am5 and go with 5600x or 5800x
@@spartanwill1474 id recommend the 5700x over the 5800x! Its cheaper, power efficient, but while still having very similar performance to the 5800x. The 5700x has been treating me very well so far!
@@Bdot888 what Motherboard goes well with it, if i may ask ofc
And if it's not rude, what is the best setup for the 5700x in your personal experience?
I'm starting to build my first gamer/streaming pc and i want to maintain a consistent performance and speed!
It's always been a dream of mine to have a stronger cpu, so i'll use it till it's incapable of getting around new stuff tbh
@@saeki_san any cheap B550 board will be plenty for the 5700x. And if you play at 1440p, a 4070 for $550 would be a great combo with the 5700x!
That gains are really crazy. From Zen to Zen 3 the gains are at times up to 80%. To get the same kind of gains you would have to go from the Core 2 Quad Q9550 all the way to a 6600K (same core count and memory channel configuration). This took 8 years, 3 different types of RAM and 5 different sockets. AMD did this on the same platform with the same kind of RAM within 3.5 years. You could have even used your X370 or B350 board if AMD haven't become too greedy due to their success. Just is just mindblowing!
Also add in that gains generally become harder to make the more you advance. I would add that I heard that the b350/x370 boards were lacking in some aspects, maybe the bios chips or something? If they invested a little more at first, it probably would've been better. But they were way behind Intel, so profit margins and pricing on products had to be very competitive.
@@danielzhang5842 At the time when X300 launched a 32MB ROM was hard to justify (16 was standard), as it would have increased the cost of mobos significantly. Moreover AIBs weren't willing to take the risk, as they expected Zen to do poorly in sales.
Asus themselves said it would have been possilbe to make 5000 on X300 work though and that they would have liked to offer a BIOS to consumers.
Unfortunately AMD smelled the money...
Awesome comparison. I can actually see fps real time unlike reviews, would be more interesting comparison if used like a bit lower tier card like 3070
Dude, the video runs at 60fps max, how can you see the difference?
@@ryutenmen He means the bottleneck you get if you pair low end cpus with a high end graficscard. Bottleneck would be lower with a mid tier graphicscard
As a 2600X owner. Look forward to dropping in a 5700X/G into my system. Might get better frame times with The card I have. Instead of seeing constant lag spikes...
Please get 5700X and don't buy 5700G. people have reported massive performance difference on 5700G vs 5600X/5700X. Somehow the APU performs really bad with you pair it with discrete gpus.
So about a 20% increase in AVG FPS when going from one generation to the next. So now decide for yourselves is the 5600x worth it over the 3600x? in layman's terms is it worth spending like 100$ more for about 20% more performance ?
Ryzen interup CPU market totally! whit Ryzen you surely have cores to keep up and if wuold buy intel i wuold have i5 6600k + motherboard and i7 9700k whit another motherboard. bought Ryzen 1700 + X370 motherboard and upgraded to 3700x and i am so happy whit performance. it might take a while when all those cores are stressed beond 50% (Raindowmsix siege CPU usage 70% whit +300fps)
This is a video I can respect. Thank you.
From a 1600x user, looks like the upgrade worth it!
If you have a B350 or B250... no upgrade path for you mate
I'm still having R5 2600 with rx 5700 xt not problem at all. But fps can be like 40-50,% more with ryzen 5600x I will upgrade probably when the R5 5600 non X comes out, I hope it will be much cheaper because the current price for 5600x is 400 euros
Ryzen non-x is the bad version of silicons. I used alots of X and non-X version, the X version is more stable than non-X.
5600x is overpriced in my country.
It's overpriced all over the world :(
Once a again get it from aliexpress
@@abcdefghigklmnopqxyz bruh
In everything country.
@@abcdefghigklmnopqxyz I bought a ryzen 7 3700x from aliexpress for 250 USD, used but works fine. The best store to buy CPUS from aliexpress is SZCPU store. also always film your aliexpress unboxing because if you get scammed you have a good chance of getting your money back. But even on Aliexpress the 5600x price isn't that great if i'm gonna be honest
Nice. I've been thinking of upgrading from my 2600x, although I don't think I'll upgrade right now until the next generation after Zen 3. Thanks for the comparisons.
Doubt you'll motherboard will support it.
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Hey your cpu cooler is doing a pretty decent job here, mind telling us what did you use for this test? Thanks!
I think msi afterburner
@@bigboi6970 not the thing he was asking for :D
it's weird that people spend $1,000+ on their graphics cards, but only $100-200 on the CPU.
@@Zachary66 I'm sure you're doing fine. Congrats on your 1070!
buying the expensive CPU instead of expensive GPU give you nothing. In reality if you buy 3080 for 4k gaming even 10400f will be enove for give maximum FPS on ultra settings on 4k resolution. This video only shows the maximum possible fps on each of these CPUs. In reality on 4k resolution on ultra, you won't see nothing difference between these CPUs.
Make a video for Intel Core i5 8600k vs 9600k vs 10600k and 11600k when the 11th gen cpus are released.
or 8400f vs 9400f ... or I9 9900k..
Thanks this was a very useful video.
5600x is like 4 times the price of a used 2600x
3x but still very expensive
wouldn't pay more than 200 for used, gonna need to wait till next gen comes out
why would you pay anything over 180 for used you can get 3600x for 180
@@wheezel55 well, it is better than 3600x
@@wheezel55 can't get a 3600 for that cheap no more.
thank dude you are a BIG HELP
по этим тестам понятно, что покупать старьё нет смысла, но и переплачивать за 5000 серию следует когда есть возможности
Damn i really love the hard work you put in every video thanks man!
Man i love watching benchmarks
nice video dude !!
Kinda what I wanted to see thanks for this
1600x still delivers consistent 60fps performance i wonder how 7600k would be doing in these tests even though it was more expensive option...
lol, 1600x was dogshi* (for gaming only though), the i7 used to deliver like 10-15 fps more on the same generation. The gap finally got to 0 this "gen" (again, on gaming, everything else the ryzen are MUCH better).
@Spongy spongy Nah
1st gen ryzens ipc is at the same level with Sandy Bridge I7 2600K.
2nd gen ryzens ipc is somewhere there with ivy bridge.
@@evomichel9900 if 1600x gaming perf was dogshit then 7600k perf was dogshit as well at the launch date it had around same gaming perf and once 7600k oced to 5ghz it outperformed like 10-20%. The gap between them went smaller and smaller and in recent year or so it outperforms drastically in most cpu demanding games.
@@kustu ahahaha no
i'm looking for the same comparison but in 1440P to see if it's a good move to change my 2700
Why be so modest!, try 8K... Yo have never tried a flight simulator on an 85 inch TV?...
I run a 2600X, the 5600X is tempting but I think I could probably hold out for gen after the 5000 series.
Same, but I got b450 motherboard. Do you think gen after 5000 will be still supported for those motherboards?
@@raven2642 no amd ryzen 7000 will only work on AM5 mainboards. I recommend checking out 5600X/5700X/5800x3D depending you your budget. If you come from 2600X then its worth it in my opinion. I noticed a big difference in 1% fps and lag spikes especially in VR going from 3800X to 5800x3D.
@@raven2642 the b450 supports the 5000 series with BIOS update. After that though it's a new platform. Goes to AM5
Updates my rig from r5 2600 to 5600x paired with a RX 580 8gb and its just runs better with increase of FPS.
If u have a ryzen 2600 or 3600 you don't need to upgrade. in case you run around with a 2014 dual core like me then, yes probably worth it
Impressive for 1080p. Forgive me for saying this, but if you can afford a 3080 and ANY of these processors and you're gaming at 1080p, there's a problem.
High refreshrate gaming
@@GioCTRL Even a 2060 can do 1080p 140 fps. You don't need a 3080 for that.
@@Blacktrous im on 240
accidentally damaged my 3700x the other day. I'm stuck w my backup 1600x for now... it's not the worst thing I suppose
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clock 3.7ghz , 4.1ghz , 4.25 ghz , 4.65 ghz Creo que entre 1600x y 2600x no hay mucha diferencia en el rendimiento si la velocidad del reloj se iguala a las mismas frecuencias.
I think that between 1600x and 2600x there is not much difference in performance if the clock speed is equal to the same frequencies.
It already changes with the 3600x model (zen 2), its internal architecture is practically different, now if we talk about zen 3 it is already a lot of change
Maltratan a un venezolano.
5600x is a beast. Glad to have it❤️
Blin I've had your performance since 2 years. 8700k delidded and oc with fast memory still 6c/12t 👑
@@GioCTRL Whatever the fuck "blin" means.
Regarding Cyberpunk 2077, The goal of CD Project Red was to make a techical demo ... they didn't optimize the game for older hardware at all. The system requirements were just a joke. i7-4790K that's recommended cannot get 60 FPS minimums on this game.
Skipping the 4000 series now makes sense! Great performance boost!
Difference is quite noticable....
But its only noticable if you can ignore to notice price difference first.
as much as I like seeing the gaming GPU differences where do you see the basic PC bench, / work, non gaming benchmarks?
Check the launch price for these 600 range CPUs too.
Great comparison of all Ryzen generations !
The 5600X rocks - and now it is available everywhere - thank you AMD.
@@roymarr6181 Maybe people with an IQ below 30 don't deserve to get it...
That's why I downgraded from Ryzen 7 to Ryzen 5, but upgraded from 1800X to 5600X. Huge difference at a glance!
Wdym? Is R7 bad??
Even 5600x cant push 98% usage of 3080, this means for 5600x you only need 3060ti or 3070 for balanced cpu gpu build.
at higher res it will
@@mikeserds2333 yeah sure, you can pair 5600x with 3090 running cyberpunk at native 4k with chance of stuttering and high frametime. thats why most good gpu benchmarks using high end cpu like 12900k or 5950x to ensure the gpu runs most of it potential hindering cpu bound in some cpu demanding cases like cyberpunk. 5600x has sweet spot of 3060ti or equivalent.
CPU: AMD + GPU: NVIDIA= PERFECTION
Perfectly balanced...
AMD GPU are not good enough? I'm really hesitating between a 5700x or a 2070 super, I play in 2k res with a 2600x what do you think guys?
@@ClarenceFM The 5700xt is plenty good for 2K at 60+fps and can also do some light to medium 4K gaming but if you want 4K at 60 and even high fps 2K then go for the rtx 2070 super.Keep in mind that the rtx 2070 super is more expensive
@@15Stratos 2K? 2048*1080p FHD at 17/9? Or QHD 2560*1440p? Also 5700XT doesn't have ray tracing and DLSS and that's shit. Nvidia wins as always. 3060Ti destroys 5700XT.
This is awesome but to me the take away is that the entire AM4 platform Ryzen family is excellent for gaming.
- This is at 1080p. Jumping to 1440p the CPU will be delivering roughly the same frames but you will likely become GPU bound. In other words, if you are just gaming, put your upgrade dollars at GPUs first.
- The only game where the 1600x and 2600x couldnt get above 60fps was Flight Simulator. Lets be honest, if Flight Simulator is your jam, you know you have to shell out the $$$.
- The 3600 is going to have a VERY long life as a gaming CPU. I have sad for a while I think it is going to be the new i7 47xx. I predict that people will still be happily gaming with 3600s when 6xxx series Nvidia GPUs are released.
- A 58003D or 5900 based gaming system will be viable for AAA gaming in 2030. A 5900 can push Horizon Zero Dawn to 165fps at 1080p Ultimate. It will be a long time before all but the highest end GPUs can handle the frames it can push at 1440p or 4K.
Bottom line - you can build an AM4 based computer now and be very happy with your gaming for a long time. Great job AMD!
I'm surprised of the gpu charge. 20% highter between 1600 and 5600
i would like the same test with the same cpus But with a 1080TI since the other cards don't exist and many have GTX 10xx cards already.🙄
please do call of duty warzone as well in your Tests
Amd
Doubling the margin each Zen
Most of the videos shows average 40 fps increase from 1600x to 5600x. I guess I'll keep 1600x until I see difference of at least 60 fps
proud with 3600x...even it not perform better than 5600x but as you can see it use less power then 5600x 2600x 1600x but still perform better
It is 20W higher is displayed incorrectly in this video
Sooo...
The takeaway here is that performance scales realy well when you increase clock speeds.
The differences from 1600X to 3600X are almost entirely in line just with the clock differences. The tiny bit extra above that that the 3600 demonstrates is the IPC increase from Zen 1 to 2. Same with the jump from 3600X to 5600X - 65% clock speed increase, 35% IPC increase/die shrink. But notice that the actual CPU usage doesn't increase (between generations), showing that most games are still limited to only using 4-ish cores.
Thats not to bag on AMD here. Being able to GET those clock speed increases is great. A refinement in Zen 3 that lets them reliably hit 5ghz would be the bees knees.
Another big takeaway is that a 1600X is still a good CPU. At no point, even in Cyberpunk, does it hit "bad" performance. So i think its a serious win that an almost 4 year old, decidedly mid-range part has held up so well.
But what if you lock the processor frequency everywhere at the same level? Interesting...
here are prices of the local CPUs I could find:
Ryzen 5 2600X = 189 euro
Ryzen 5 3600XT = 299 euro
Ryzen 5 5600X = 459 euro
how is this even an improvement? they keep getting A LOT more expensive!
unless you are only gaming it's better to just buy the Ryzen 7 3700X for 374 euro instead of the Ryzen 5 5600X because extra 2c/4t is better...
i just paid my 5600x 351€ on amazon.it and i had a 3600 paid 180 8 months ago so it's not a big deal actually
ok fun fact:
roughly 1 year later my country sells the 5600X for only 289 euro which is a bargain compared to last year LOL!
also 5600G for 229 euro and now the 5500 for 139 euro (might be best bang for the buck)
I think for most people the Ryzen 5 3600 is the best choice. I have 2600 right now and it is fine but the 3600 is future proof
This is depend on which graphic card you have. With RTX 3080, the difference is 15fps, but with RTX 3060Ti, only 5fps
next benchmark with ryzen 7? :>
y si fuera con una GTX 1080 es la misma diferencia a favor del 5600x? tengo un 1600x y quisiera cambiarlo por el 5600x pero no se si vale la pena el cambio realmente
Hey man can you do cyberpunk 2077 windows 10 vs 7? Heared there are huge performance difference between the 2 operating systems
You can really see how 5600x has a lot bigger impact in Microsoft Flight simulator
And it's just at 4650mhz.
Mine boosts all day constantly on multiple cores at 4.9ghz woth +300 PBO and I even undervolted a tad with the curve.
Im not change my 7 3700x still best for 1440p and 4k with 3070
The Cyberpunk benchmark is not the most accurate since the CPU starts bottlenecking around crowded areas. I play on a 3600 and 3070 and in the Market area get 40fps, meanwhile on empty roads like this its 20fps higher
amd improved more in 4 generations than intel in 7
But that’s only because they were so far behind and still are generally a little behind in single threaded. Multi threaded they win easy as they have more cores for the money.
The performance difference between intel and AMD at single threaded is so small it doesn’t matter against the lower cost and thermals of ryzen and this is why I recently went from a 2012 6c/12t Xeon 1650v2 overclocked to 4.5ghz all core to a 6c/12t 3600x also overclocked to 4.5ghz all core, it’s faster, cooler, has native nvme support and pcie 4.0.
I can’t see me upgrading my cpu for a while, I’ll get a used 5000 series or something in a few years.
Why is that in cyberpunk game all cpu usage are the close? Isn't it suppose 5600x should have less usage than 1600x because the gap of their architecture difference?
So the 3080 will bottleneck any cpu at 1080p. 1440p should be better I guess
In my country , 10700kf is 410$ , 3700x for 460$ and 5600z for 450$ ( NOTE: these are sale prices , in real price 10700kf is 490$)
I think I would be much happier with 10700kf + Hyper 212 evo rgb worth 50$ , so I can even overclock a li’l bit .
Yeah! I know that all shit that amd has better upgradability and all that shit , but I will use this for atleast 4 years , and I am blessed enough to earn 200$ more for motherboard at that point of time , but I don’t want to compromise in performance , agree or not that it is a lot compromise in ryzen 2 zen , and 5600x is still overpriced for me .
@Martiandeath 7004 hmm. yup
actually I would say both the cpus are gr8 , but the fanboyism is the one thing that destroys them
Intel 10th gen though is more worth and more performance oriented than amd’s 3rd gen cpus , and amd 5th gen cpus are so overpriced
(at least in my area)
it depends from region to region where you live , if u get intel in a range of 30-40$ corresponding to same ryzens’s cpus , you should go for intel for long run , as intel is far more reliable than amd in long run , then buy a + 70$ cooler , and here you are , with spending around 100$ more , but you get 1 more year of its use , and more performance throughout the period
I am saying with experience , i use i7 7700x and I am using it for 6 more months , as my number in queue for rtx 3070 is 6 months from now, It does not lag behind in any games at ultra setting even now , but it is just that I want to refresh my hardware , so I am upgrading.
and it still competes gr8 with amd’s so called innvative cpus like r3 3600 .
so if you get an intel + cooler in around 100$ more from ryzen cpu , I suggest you go for it
its good to see the evolution of diffrent generation of ryzen 5 the bigest diffrence is between ryzen 3600x vs 5600x this video need un update add ryzen 5 7600x in the benchmarck.
Remember it is a 3080. I have 2600oc + 2060s, there the difference is very little. Still if I updated to a 3070 or 3060ti I could increase resolution and still keep my cpu or change cpu + video card and create a budget build with the retire parts.
Very excellent gains in just 3 years. Meanwhile, silly people are still recommending buying more cores than necessary for 'futureproofing', as if that alone would make them satisfied 5 years from now with whatever gaming cpu they buy today.
Very nice, could you do the same comparison but with 1440p?
i bought 2600x and b450 asrock hdv 4.0. is operated by the 4th gen. ryzen. worth changing in a year to 4th gen. how will the 5th gen come out?
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Is there something wrong with the settings? I'm confused why all GPU load below 100%
Because its a cpu test and the graphic settings are Medium not high or ultra. Thats fine
Because you are not very smart
I think it's weird when nor the CPU or the GPU gets close to 100% usage. Seems like more FPS could be processed since nothing is bottlenecking.
Usually the engines are not optimized for so many cores / threads, so the CPU usage looks like this:
CPU 60%:
Core1 87%
Core2 99%
Core3 79%
Core4 16%
Core5 8%
Core6 13%
there is something wrong with the ryzen 3600x, it is low in frequency.
I have this cpu and in boost the frequency is very close to 4400 mhz, why doesn't it go beyond 4250 mhz here?
Should do one with them all clocked the same to show the IPC gain.
The generational leap with Ryzen cpus is massive, AMD had fallen far behind. The competition AMD brought to the table forced Intel to innovate again and we see this now with the 13th gen Intel cpus. Intel was resting on its laurels for years, rightfully so, they had the better option but as soon as the 1st gen Ryzen hit the market, it was a wake up call. Its actually insane how far Intel has come from the quad core i7s that were priced at $349. This is why fanboying is dumb, instead of rooting for a team, root for innovation.
Month before Ryzen 3600 was released i was about to buy 9400f that had only 6 threads, even 9600k was not a great deal since it was expensive in my country and also had 6 threads. There was no reason to buy midrange Intel CPU at the time compared to 3600