What Wikipedia does impacting others is a significant problem. There are countless examples of circular referencing where Wikipedia got something wrong, someone else went with it and then Wikipedia cited them causing circular references. I myself worked on an article about a Swedish building. Someone added an English version of the name that wasn't used before and in the following months said name started to be used in English language sources.
I go to the English language page for the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and it is still wrong. They're still claiming it ended in 1991. While the name may have been shortened to Russian Federation by 1991, it's constitution was in use until the 1993 Constitutional Crisis.
Here is another weird one. In Denmark, neither region nor municipalities use flags, instead using logos or coats of arms. However, Wikipedia had flags for the regions, which were just the regions' logos put on a coloured background. It seems like the Wikipedia pages no longer calls these flags, but they are still found all over the pages for the regions and for the page for Danish flags.
Like, I always see the Realm and constituent flags hanging around interchangeably and sometimes wonder what the honest official flag of Denmark is, the rectangle or V-shaped one...
@@Ggdivhjkjl It's a little more complicated then that... The official flag of Denmark is the rectangle (Dannebrog / The Civil Flag) Then there is the Splitflag representing The Kingdom of Denmark (swallow-tailed design, same color) The Orlogsflag is the (Royal) navel flag ( swallow-tailed design, but a much darker red) Last there are the Royal standards (A spit flag with a coat of arms representing th monarch)
here in Spain some people, specially in smaller villages, display national flags on their windows, and because of the sun the yellow stripe usually fades to white making it appear as the Austrian flag people don't seem to care much, so we're not going to be very strict on the exact hues of our flag elsewhere
The colour issues remind me of the swedish flag. The blue was changed to a lighter colour, but it looks like ass and makes you think it's a cheap knockoff, so everybody (sometimes including government institutions) uses darker coloured flags instead. Most aren't even aware that the dark one is technically incorrect, since it just looks more "right" at this point.
Same thing in Poland, the official hue of red is 'carmine', or, to put it in understandable terms, raspberry. It's so rare to see one with that exact hue that it feels incorrect, especially on naval flags, since they contain the coat of arms, which uses a different shade of red.
South Sudan: "don't use the wrong flag" also South Sudan: "it is not necessary to define the exact hues and shapes or put the official guidelines anywhere".
Flag laws are often intentionally vague because flags need to be displayed in a variety of different ways: outdoor flagpole, indoor flagpole, letterheads, outdoor digital screens, indoor national screens, national ID cards etc. And having a single uniform color scheme doesn't look good. The law itself might be vague, but there will most likely exist a plethora of government directives and instructions specifying the colors for all these different situations.
As a Spanish I know that the lion on Spain’s coat of arms is purple and It’s even confirmed at the royal family’s website. The purple color was used on the kingdom of León’s banner and pink was never used as Wikipedia says.
@@hlibushok Yes, the lion is supposed to be purple or red (historical color from the Kingdom of Leon) not pink but there are rumors that the color was set to a more pink hue to avoid any resemblance to the republic (which is associated with that color and used the yellow-red-purple flag)
The royal coat of arms, as you said, uses purple, but the government uses pink, even though both are officially described as "purpure", which is the heraldic name. Heraldic colours are very flexible ("silver" can be drawn as white or grey depending on the artist, for example), so some heraldist think pink is an acceptable interpretation, other don't.
I really don’t think it’s Wikipedia’s fault when the hue is slightly off and the flag is otherwise undefined. They should still make it as close to common usage as it is policy, though. Honestly for a couple of these, especially the ones taken outside, it might just be lighting that’s the issue.
It's interesting how vague the official standards of flags can be. I didn't realize how loose it was kept. Makes sense there's discrepancies both on Wikipedias end but even the government themselves.
@@ambiguousdrink4067 I saw it more like this: Middle and North European countries are often precise about things, so their flags are probably clearly defined. South and West European countries are often more flexible, so their flags are maybe less strictly defined. This is just a theory. I did not check the official flag definition of every country.
When you consider most flags were created before 19th century mass production or the modern concept of graphic design, I think it makes perfect sense - why would you bother to define the exact color tones or appearance of a flag, when the manufacturing process at the time meant every flag is by necessity a unique, hand crafted object, with little in the way of consistency? The whole concept of national flags is in a way, a successor to the concept of heraldry - and the nature of manufacturing a physical cost of arms in the medieval period meant the design could only be defined in broad terms - colors could only be defined by the metals or pigments available, the appearance of animals defined soley by it’s “attitude” like “Lion Passant Guardant” (which means a lion with right paw raised, head facing viewer) but who’s appearance is otherwise up to the artist’s interpretation, etc. Flags that use heraldic symbols but don’t define the design any further inherent that flexibility. We’re use to the concepts of modern graphic design where the appearance of colors, typefaces, position of objects etc can be strictly defined using Pantone/Hex values, standardised font packs and grid systems, all neatly packaged up in (sometimes excessively detailed) design guidelines but prior to the 20th century none of that stuff really existed.
Even though the flag of Ukrainian SSR didn't have very strict specifications, the blue stripe was, in fact, much lighter, while the golden print (yes, the hammer, sickle, and the star are something like a print) was darker. I only know it because my grandma had this flag.
@jeffkardosjr.3825 yes, but consider that since there were no activities standards in place, your grandfather's flag was just one of the possible interpretations, based on vague description of the flag
The exposure and saturation of a photo can significantly change what the colors look like. If the colors are too brightly exposed, a digital camera can make deep blues look light cyan, and deep reds can become orange or even yellow. If you've ever tried to take a digital photo of a pink sky at sunset, you might have seen this happen.
If you're considering to do a part 3, I have something for you. I noticed some time ago that on wikipedia, but also on a lot of websites, that the last flag of the Kingdom of Portugal (the one with a white and blue backgrond), uses a darker shade of blue than the one I always saw before. I never found any explanation for this change, and I'm curious to know why it changed. Good video btw
I would point out that Wikipedia while having mistakes, seems to be relatively good in this aspect, compared to other encyclopedias. Encyclopedia Britannica still uses a dark Flag of South Sudan, and a light Flag of India, including some other errors that aren't on Wikipedia, like the Flag of Cyprus page. For Cyprus, Britannica still says it has a 3:5 ratio, and shows Pantone 144-C and Pantone 336-C colors, despite the flag changing in 2006 to Pantone 1385 and Pantone 574 with a 2:3 ratio.
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong Yeah, on August 25, 2023, the South Sudan's Media Authority released an advisory discouraging the use of the deep-blue colored triangle variant.
As a Norwegian, I noticed the red shade on the flag of Norway on Wikipedia change in early 2021. The red shade changed from a light red to a darker red. But the flag didnt actually change, at least by law. The Norwegian flag's colors were defined by pantone shades, but pantone doesnt translate perfectly digitally. So there was some disagreement about the right shade. But the darker color eventually came out on top, cause it matched the pantone more. I personally think the darker color looks nice compared to the old one, but most flags ive seen IRL resemble the old red more.
This is why government should give 3 official colour pallets. One for additive colour (RGB, HSV), one for subtractive colour (pantone) and one for fabric dyes. The third one is needed because different fabric dyes don’t mix and so to get certain colours you need a pigment wholly of that one compound to get an even dye for flag fabric.
@@rykermoorcroft4474 next you also need to specify the material the flag is made out off, because off-course the pigment or dye interacts with the fabric.
I am Moroccan and I have noticed this with the Moroccan flag on Wikipedia, too. It doesn't take long to notice that there are flags where borders of the pentagram are visible, then there are flags shaded borders in the pentagram and lastly there are flags with the pentagram but without borders. What's funny is that editors often remove flags variants from the article and they can't decide which flag to display. Then they removed an old version of the flag where the pentagram looked the same like that of Israel. When you look official website of the Moroccan government, you will see that the pentagram has borders with a slightly dark green color. Content creators just grab flags from Wikipedia and call it a day.
Wikipedia also had wrong colours for proposed designs of the European Flag. Before the adopted12-star flag, there was a 15-star version, then a nine-ring version. The Wikipedia article on the Flag of Europe showed these proposed designs with a light-blue colour, but in fact they had the same navy blue colour as the current flag. I think that the mistake was due to the English description of the flags, in the official texts of the Council of Europe. The English version states that the colour is Azure (heraldic term for navy blue, in contrast with Bleu Celeste for light blue) but also describe the design as a circle of stars against a "sky-blue" background. However, the French version indicates "Contre le bleu du ciel", "against the blue of the sky". "Sky-blue" didn't mean light blue, but meant that blue represented the sky.
@@nifelheirn I mean, one of the takeaways of this video is pretty much that no version is "correct" if the law doesn't state the exact colors. In the India example the darker version became correct simply because a manufacturer produces/started to produce it darker
Will you include the welsh flag change? (The fact this even happened is awful) On the 26th of July 2021, a Vandalization of the welsh flag hat added something to the Dragon, although someone tried to change it, the guy put it back and lasted believe it or not, 9 months.
Very nice video! Stuff as granular as different versions of flags must be really difficult to pick through, especially when you consider things as subtle as hue variations. It's almost like the parameters for an "official" flag will always be up to interpretation because flags are just collections of abstract markers on fabric that we contextually use to identify a country and thus aren't always 100% the same if we deem it good enough.
Ah yes, I work with city flags on wikipedia, and there are lots of arguments to do with the colours of it, there are also the occasional arguments over the colours of the Japanese prefecture flags, e.g. Niigata prefecture....
As a Thai I often see that the Thai flag's color contrast/brightness is not clear. Some make the flag way more darker than some, even the Thai flag I own has a brighter contrast and simply searching up 'Thai flag' gives 2 different flags with different brightness.
I'm from Spain, and here until Franco's dictatorship the flag always used the lighter colors. I think that was with a decree from 1982 that made the colors darker. Even though, the lighter one is the most used nowadays
If you plan on doing a part 3, here's some stuff for you. The Kingdom of Armenia, there were 2 cited flags that were kept for several years up until a few months ago when they were removed for having innacurate sources. Although I'm not certain about it, I think there was an edit war over the flag of the Mongol Empire.
As an Indian who lives in India, the dark and dark is the one used the most. No one uses the light ones. Even the governments use the dark ones. And during my time in Spain, the lighter one is the official one.
Hi! I liked the first video on this topic so I stepped in to watch this, and was taken aback by the flag animation scene used as a resource at 0:26. I'm from the flag animation community myself (which, in fact exists), and it's certainly flattering when someone takes some output of ours and uses it transformatively like that sequence. Of course, the same can't be said when it's flat-out content theft. But either way, we'd be content with being credited for the usage of our work, which isn't all that quick to put out. With that said, would you mind placing credits for that resource on the description? We'd be very glad to have that :D
Yes if you can show me the original source for the animation I will gladly credit them in the description. I could have sworn there was already a link to the video I took it from, but it appears it must have been lost in the process of formatting.
There's also an example of the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic, a short-lived state in the Caucasus region in 1918. For some time it showed a yellow-black-red flag. It's cited to come from CRW Flags, which itself cites it to random book that mentions such flag. It was decided that the flag isn't real, but there's still some articles that show the flag next to the country, and the problem is even bigger for other language editions. It seems they didn't get the memo about the flag, because most foreign versions of the article still show the flag in the infobox.
Honestly, idk if you are planning to even make part 3, but I will still keep writing examples I can find. So, quite recently, the flag that was for years present in the article about the Duchy of Warsaw, was removed. For years, it pretty much featured a modern flag of Poland, with a slightly different shade of red. It was recently removed, as there were no actual sources to prove that it was the flag of the duchy. It was replaced with a banner of arms, which personally, I'm not sure was historically used either
Something interesting is that back when I lived in Honduras the flag was always a deep navy blue, they even teached us that It represented both seas off our coast. but apparently it was always supposed to be light blue, now I don't know if that just an old 50s mistake or wikipedia had something to do, because they definitely were using the dark blue version even though the light blue version was law for over 60 years I believe, just not inforced before the new government?
The Australian flag used to be legally defined as "a defaced British blue ensign" (which uses the correct vexillological jargon) but anti-British politicians changed it to be simply "a blue flag" so it is now correct to manufacture the Australian flag using sky blue.
@@FlagAnthem Defacement is a vexillological term, meaning to add an additional symbol or charge. The flag of Australia is a blue ensign defaced with a series of stars. You're thinking of defacing like vandalism, where you draw something on a flag you're not supposed to draw
Since the first video, I have become the only guy in the entire Spanish Wikipedia to fix these minor but sometimes big problems. Spanish Wikipedia is always too short, without any references and using fictional flags without reason. At least most English articles care about this and add a text saying "This is seen in x book about cartography" or something like that.
As Wikipedias uses Wikimedia as the database for images. So if a change happens on "English Wikipedia" (i.e. the change is done on Wikimedia) then it will also apply on Spanish Wikipedia. That is if the source image is changed as shown in this video. You can switch out the image file for a new one, that won't affect any other language. But flags usually only have one image file.
@@Liggliluff I was talking about fictional flags, articles that are EXTREMELY SHORT, if in English they at least add "this is an stub" in Spanish that infobox is outdated and doesn't work. There was an article about the flag of Sweden-Norway with didn't have anything more that information about the navy jack. So I had to add every single flag used by the two nations in this period. Italy flag article didn't even have the Kingdom of Italy flag, and no mention of it anywhere.
Interesting wrong flag moment I think: The current banner in use on Wikipedia for the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom page is not actually a Taiping flag. It's a Pingnan flag that was incorrectly cited as a Taiping flag. It's still on the page as the official banner. (It was removed lmao)
I don't think so, It seems unlikely that a Muslim rebellion would use a flag with a dragon on it, not to mention the flag was found in Jiangsu, which is very far away from where the Pingnan rebellion happened.
@@scishowwithmoh7216 I don't personally have access to the museum so I can't speak on the validity but what I can confirm is the flag cited as the banner used in the Heavenly Kingdom is not on exhibit in Nanjing, and has never been used by the Taiping Tianguo. I have extensively read over every first hand source available and have not found any proof confirming this banner as used by the Taiping. The sole source claiming it was used during the rebellion is from a Korean tourist who mistakenly attributed it to the Taiping because it was on loan to the museum in Nanjing. If it was really a Taiping flag, why was the file renamed to 'Flag used by Du Wenxiu' and why exactly is there zero proof confirming it is?
Not natioal flag, but I have noticed that the problem with inconsistent flags can go all the way down to city flags. I have recently found a few flags of cities in Poland, with wrong flags on their wikipedia pages. For example, the flag of Elbląg in Poland, used in Wikipedia until 2023, was nothing like the flag actually ised by the city, except for basic description, because the author interpreted what flag should look like basing on text description, and not on image of flag actually used by the city. And I'm afraid if someone where too look closely, there's probably a huge number of flags of cities and subdivisions that look different to what's on wikipedia
I agree, local flags often have few pictures to go off of and are liable to have been made from text descriptions (and are also less likely to be checked by people)
@nojrants also, way harder to actually find actual official descriptions or even pictures. Most of the time, it's hidden somewhere on some obscure government website, if it's there at all. On many occasions, it ends up being quite vague
Also, shout out to cities that make official descriptions of their flags, not at all consistent with the official pictures of the flags. I swear, if the city bothers with listing actual proportions of their flag, it will be completely inconsistent with the picture, and sometimes not even physically possible.
Another example is Duchy of Warsaw, a French client state from times of Napoleonic Wars. For over a decade, the infobox showed the white and red flag (similar to the moder flag of Poland, but with different shades). It was actually just recently removed (I think 2023), and was later replaced with royal baner of a white eagle on a red background. Also, worth noting that the first official use of such flag design appears over a century later, in 1918
The presumably fake flag (circle symbol and lines below) of the Ryukyu Kingdom (today's Okinawa of Japan) on Wikipedia has also spread to a point where its one of the first results you find when you look up their flag. Although it looks cool, this flag is probably from a novel from the 40s rather than it being an actual flag used by the kingdom. It has been removed from the Japanese and English pages but its actually still on the Chinese page for the flag.
Let's see how well my country defines our national flag "The flag of the Philippines shall be blue, white and red with an eight-rayed golden-yellow sun and three five-pointed stars, as consecrated and honored by the people." Oh fuck-
The thing is that flag colours shouldn't be defined too strictly. Flags are a pre-industry thing and should be possible to be constructed by nationals easily, from fabrics that are somewhat easily accessible at home.
Botton line is how important is this? I mean some countries don't even care to make an official document explaining the flag, so what gives? If it wasn't wikipedia it would be something else, news outlets? conflicting websites? personal preference? and manufacters saving money on certain colors or maybe trying to their spin on it (lol)? The primary use of a flag is identification, and I think we all can agree: "oh that's south sudan, oh that's india, oh that's spain".
As an Indian (Bharatiya), there have been many speculations regarding to the flag colour of the tiranga (the name of the flag). But also in many current and old sources, both Dark and light green had been used ever since. And many sources would either use saffron or even a classic orange. It's true, the government isn't pointing out the right flag color of the Indian flag. They need to try to do something similar as the officials of Vatican City did. Till the government response, people are allowed to use the 2 alternative Indian flags untill further notice. 🇮🇳
Using darker colors on flags makes sense to producers who don't want their products to easily sun bleached. No one is going to buy your flags if the colors run
This could all be avoided if every constitution included the hex codes for colors on the flag. Also it just occured to me, when using photographs to create a SVG of the flag you could erroneously pick the colors due to the way the device picks up colors, compression loss, etc.
This is not really a Wikipedia problem but a user ignorance problem I have seen. 100s of times now on RUclips videos/adverts/etc where people have used the wrong flag for the UK. They have instead used the old "Flag of Great Britain" that was used from 1707-1801. This is because they don't know the difference between Great Britain and the United Kingdom. When searching for the flag online they just type "flag of Great Britain" and pick the first one they see. What's worse to me I have seen videos by people who ARE British get this wrong in their own videos. I even found a UK University uploading a video with the wrong flag in the thumbnail. I think when this happens it's often been edited by someone who isn't from the UK.
I have found another example if you ever wanna make part three. Article of the Vermont Republic for many years until 2023 used banner of the Green Mountain Boys as the flag of the state until I spotted the mistake and removed it. The banner was never the symbol of that state and wasn't used since the end of the revolutionary war. However, in modern times, it gained the it gained the popularity and is mistakenly used as a historical flag even though it never was. There is actually no evidence that Vermont Republic had ever used any flag
When using Wikipedia always double check information . For example The Wikipedia page about ships in the DPRK NAVY says that the The new modern corvette uses the hull of a ship twice of as large is it
The light blue South Sudanese may be correct, but to me it just makes it look like a cheap knockoff of the dark version. Plus, Wikipedia’s version seems to be way too light compared to the actual images of the light blue flag in use.
Yup. Same with the ""official"" version of the Scottish flag, vs the dark blue version traditionally used & employed in the Union Flag. The ""official"" one looks like a knockoff, or one that's run in the wash 😅😆
I guess the darker hue of the Indian flag's kesari orange panel is to bring it more in line with bhagwa orange that represents the ethno-religious identity of the current dispensation.
It makes sense to me that the darker shade of orange on the Indian flag may be something to do with prolonging the colour for outdoor flag use against bleaching
07:38 there may be discrepancies , but the hues that should be used in the spanish flag are mentioned in both the spanish and english articles about the spanish flag. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain#Colours es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandera_de_Espa%C3%B1a#Colores and both use the 1981 royal decree 441 as the source. Every mention I've found of the central color in other official spanish uses of the flag (such as the military branches, and the goberment and legislative bodies) always uses the word "gualda" wich refers to the same color as the one in the 1981 decree. Therefore, any other colors use outside the permited margins of error is just manufacturing errors and us "not caring enough"
the only version of the People's Republic of Ethiopa's flag (1987-1991) I can find is the digitized Wikipedia version and it has dumbest looking lion on the emblem
I think people are struggling with saturation and brightness variation across different weights of fabric. Two flags with the same colours and under the same lighting would look different if one fabric is noticeably more translucent than the other.
Wikipedia's version of the Spanish flag is actually correct. The Spanish constitution explicitly says that the middle strip has to be "gualda" i.e dark yellow. However most of the people (even Spaniards) don't know this and think that it's just yellow.
I saw that my country flag (Puerto Rico) in Wikipedia is incorrect. The colors are sort of right for the most part, but the dimensions aren't. Wikipedia shows a dimension of 2:3 in the flag, but the actual flag is 5:8. Just goes to show you that people just look at images available of a country flag and recreate it in a SVG, but in reality it might be unofficial. (LITTLE NOTE: the Puerto Rican flag has 3 variants, people prefer the 1895-1898 version as the true flag, then there's the 1952 version that is used mainly by the government, and the current 1995 variant, which is defined as the national flag)
I feel that it's very likely for them to have the wrong flag of the Spanish Empire, since a lot of people confuse the red cross (which is the flag for the Iberian Union) as the flag for the Spanish Empire
The Virginia state flag is incorrect on Wikipedia. It appears to be a creation by an editor there who likes creating vector art. The whole creation process can be followed on the talk section and upload history of the Wikimedia commons svg file. The actual, official flag design, keeps being reuploaded and reverted over and over again up to just last month. Of course, this incorrect flag appears as the top Google result when you search for the flag.
Wtf I did NOT expect to hear about Glen Burnie MD on a RUclips video today. Especially not the local flag store. Thats super goofy.
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You should check out flags of Afghanistan and their controversy there is a constant fight on what Afghanistan flag is atleast on updated flag quizzes they can’t decide on using the Taliban or democratic government’s one or even Yemen
I was reading a description of the flag that the Ghaznavids used from a source and it directly matched the flag that is now attributed to the Almuwahhidun. I don’t know how that happened.
The red color of the Norwegian flag was way too light for a lot of years. It was finally changed last year. This change has been clearly reflected everywhere on the internet, with flags with the dark red suddenly starting to appear. Wikipedia is incredibly influential!
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Using flags to flag a flag change.
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Now consider how hellish it can get when hunting for lost historical flags
What Wikipedia does impacting others is a significant problem. There are countless examples of circular referencing where Wikipedia got something wrong, someone else went with it and then Wikipedia cited them causing circular references. I myself worked on an article about a Swedish building. Someone added an English version of the name that wasn't used before and in the following months said name started to be used in English language sources.
Yeah most companies probably check wikipedia to get their designs, they produce flags, and then wikipedia cites those flags...it's all a circle
Fun fact: That has been dubbed "Citogenesis" by XKCD
huh ironic
I go to the English language page for the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and it is still wrong.
They're still claiming it ended in 1991.
While the name may have been shortened to Russian Federation by 1991, it's constitution was in use until the 1993 Constitutional Crisis.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825Provide better sources to prove it
Here is another weird one. In Denmark, neither region nor municipalities use flags, instead using logos or coats of arms. However, Wikipedia had flags for the regions, which were just the regions' logos put on a coloured background. It seems like the Wikipedia pages no longer calls these flags, but they are still found all over the pages for the regions and for the page for Danish flags.
Like, I always see the Realm and constituent flags hanging around interchangeably and sometimes wonder what the honest official flag of Denmark is, the rectangle or V-shaped one...
@@gamingreversalpm4727 Do you mean the swallowtail flag? That's the Danish naval ensign.
@@Ggdivhjkjl It's a little more complicated then that...
The official flag of Denmark is the rectangle (Dannebrog / The Civil Flag)
Then there is the Splitflag representing The Kingdom of Denmark (swallow-tailed design, same color)
The Orlogsflag is the (Royal) navel flag ( swallow-tailed design, but a much darker red)
Last there are the Royal standards (A spit flag with a coat of arms representing th monarch)
here in Spain some people, specially in smaller villages, display national flags on their windows, and because of the sun the yellow stripe usually fades to white making it appear as the Austrian flag
people don't seem to care much, so we're not going to be very strict on the exact hues of our flag elsewhere
and thats when they use constitutional flags, lol
Same in Italy, ours become an irish flag usually
Reasonable. Most of those flags have been there since the 2010 world cup 😂
The colour issues remind me of the swedish flag. The blue was changed to a lighter colour, but it looks like ass and makes you think it's a cheap knockoff, so everybody (sometimes including government institutions) uses darker coloured flags instead. Most aren't even aware that the dark one is technically incorrect, since it just looks more "right" at this point.
Same thing in Poland, the official hue of red is 'carmine', or, to put it in understandable terms, raspberry. It's so rare to see one with that exact hue that it feels incorrect, especially on naval flags, since they contain the coat of arms, which uses a different shade of red.
Wait when?
The old navy blue darker colour looks soo much better on our flag though :P
The lighter blie colour looks better imo as a Swede.
@@mikewazowski7024 Proof of inferior danish genes
South Sudan: "don't use the wrong flag" also South Sudan: "it is not necessary to define the exact hues and shapes or put the official guidelines anywhere".
Flag laws are often intentionally vague because flags need to be displayed in a variety of different ways: outdoor flagpole, indoor flagpole, letterheads, outdoor digital screens, indoor national screens, national ID cards etc. And having a single uniform color scheme doesn't look good. The law itself might be vague, but there will most likely exist a plethora of government directives and instructions specifying the colors for all these different situations.
As a Spanish I know that the lion on Spain’s coat of arms is purple and It’s even confirmed at the royal family’s website. The purple color was used on the kingdom of León’s banner and pink was never used as Wikipedia says.
Yeah, but the official flag of Spain uses a pink lion on its shield, not a purple or red one
It always annoyed me how the Spanish flag uses an ugly pink lion on grey background instead of the based purple lion on white background.
@@daniellagos8584 the ‘official’ flag of spain is the Wikipedia one
@@hlibushok Yes, the lion is supposed to be purple or red (historical color from the Kingdom of Leon) not pink but there are rumors that the color was set to a more pink hue to avoid any resemblance to the republic (which is associated with that color and used the yellow-red-purple flag)
The royal coat of arms, as you said, uses purple, but the government uses pink, even though both are officially described as "purpure", which is the heraldic name. Heraldic colours are very flexible ("silver" can be drawn as white or grey depending on the artist, for example), so some heraldist think pink is an acceptable interpretation, other don't.
I really don’t think it’s Wikipedia’s fault when the hue is slightly off and the flag is otherwise undefined. They should still make it as close to common usage as it is policy, though. Honestly for a couple of these, especially the ones taken outside, it might just be lighting that’s the issue.
It's interesting how vague the official standards of flags can be. I didn't realize how loose it was kept. Makes sense there's discrepancies both on Wikipedias end but even the government themselves.
so true
Maybe it says something about a country how vague the official standard of its flag is.
@@addygreen8919 It most likely says that nobody except pedantic Wikipedia editors cares whether a flag uses colours a few shades different.
@@ambiguousdrink4067 I saw it more like this: Middle and North European countries are often precise about things, so their flags are probably clearly defined.
South and West European countries are often more flexible, so their flags are maybe less strictly defined.
This is just a theory. I did not check the official flag definition of every country.
When you consider most flags were created before 19th century mass production or the modern concept of graphic design, I think it makes perfect sense - why would you bother to define the exact color tones or appearance of a flag, when the manufacturing process at the time meant every flag is by necessity a unique, hand crafted object, with little in the way of consistency?
The whole concept of national flags is in a way, a successor to the concept of heraldry - and the nature of manufacturing a physical cost of arms in the medieval period meant the design could only be defined in broad terms - colors could only be defined by the metals or pigments available, the appearance of animals defined soley by it’s “attitude” like “Lion Passant Guardant” (which means a lion with right paw raised, head facing viewer) but who’s appearance is otherwise up to the artist’s interpretation, etc. Flags that use heraldic symbols but don’t define the design any further inherent that flexibility.
We’re use to the concepts of modern graphic design where the appearance of colors, typefaces, position of objects etc can be strictly defined using Pantone/Hex values, standardised font packs and grid systems, all neatly packaged up in (sometimes excessively detailed) design guidelines but prior to the 20th century none of that stuff really existed.
Even though the flag of Ukrainian SSR didn't have very strict specifications, the blue stripe was, in fact, much lighter, while the golden print (yes, the hammer, sickle, and the star are something like a print) was darker.
I only know it because my grandma had this flag.
Yeah. My raion council pins have a rather light blue.
Same.
@jeffkardosjr.3825 yes, but consider that since there were no activities standards in place, your grandfather's flag was just one of the possible interpretations, based on vague description of the flag
The exposure and saturation of a photo can significantly change what the colors look like. If the colors are too brightly exposed, a digital camera can make deep blues look light cyan, and deep reds can become orange or even yellow.
If you've ever tried to take a digital photo of a pink sky at sunset, you might have seen this happen.
If you're considering to do a part 3, I have something for you.
I noticed some time ago that on wikipedia, but also on a lot of websites, that the last flag of the Kingdom of Portugal (the one with a white and blue backgrond), uses a darker shade of blue than the one I always saw before.
I never found any explanation for this change, and I'm curious to know why it changed.
Good video btw
Thank you, I'll look into this
I would point out that Wikipedia while having mistakes, seems to be relatively good in this aspect, compared to other encyclopedias.
Encyclopedia Britannica still uses a dark Flag of South Sudan, and a light Flag of India, including some other errors that aren't on Wikipedia, like the Flag of Cyprus page. For Cyprus, Britannica still says it has a 3:5 ratio, and shows Pantone 144-C and Pantone 336-C colors, despite the flag changing in 2006 to Pantone 1385 and Pantone 574 with a 2:3 ratio.
Britannica and other encyclopedias have a way smaller amount of people responisble for editing and publishing articles than wikipedia does
Wikipedia pointed out around 20 years ago that Britannica is full of mistakes precisely because it's unable to quickly correct errors.
But are we even sure the light flag of South Sudan is correct?
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong Yeah, on August 25, 2023, the South Sudan's Media Authority released an advisory discouraging the use of the deep-blue colored triangle variant.
@@AhmedSalah-gw4wv All I've found is one article from a dubious looking site that has said that, I've never found an official statement.
Reverts your edit- reverts your edit- reverts your-
As a Norwegian, I noticed the red shade on the flag of Norway on Wikipedia change in early 2021. The red shade changed from a light red to a darker red. But the flag didnt actually change, at least by law. The Norwegian flag's colors were defined by pantone shades, but pantone doesnt translate perfectly digitally. So there was some disagreement about the right shade. But the darker color eventually came out on top, cause it matched the pantone more. I personally think the darker color looks nice compared to the old one, but most flags ive seen IRL resemble the old red more.
This is why government should give 3 official colour pallets. One for additive colour (RGB, HSV), one for subtractive colour (pantone) and one for fabric dyes. The third one is needed because different fabric dyes don’t mix and so to get certain colours you need a pigment wholly of that one compound to get an even dye for flag fabric.
@@rykermoorcroft4474 next you also need to specify the material the flag is made out off, because off-course the pigment or dye interacts with the fabric.
@@sarowie and some governments actually go even that far
I am Moroccan and I have noticed this with the Moroccan flag on Wikipedia, too. It doesn't take long to notice that there are flags where borders of the pentagram are visible, then there are flags shaded borders in the pentagram and lastly there are flags with the pentagram but without borders. What's funny is that editors often remove flags variants from the article and they can't decide which flag to display. Then they removed an old version of the flag where the pentagram looked the same like that of Israel. When you look official website of the Moroccan government, you will see that the pentagram has borders with a slightly dark green color. Content creators just grab flags from Wikipedia and call it a day.
Wikipedia also had wrong colours for proposed designs of the European Flag.
Before the adopted12-star flag, there was a 15-star version, then a nine-ring version. The Wikipedia article on the Flag of Europe showed these proposed designs with a light-blue colour, but in fact they had the same navy blue colour as the current flag.
I think that the mistake was due to the English description of the flags, in the official texts of the Council of Europe. The English version states that the colour is Azure (heraldic term for navy blue, in contrast with Bleu Celeste for light blue) but also describe the design as a circle of stars against a "sky-blue" background. However, the French version indicates "Contre le bleu du ciel", "against the blue of the sky". "Sky-blue" didn't mean light blue, but meant that blue represented the sky.
Huh that's an interesting example, thanks for letting me know!
great intro at 0:25! I rlly appreciate my animations being used in videos like this
Can you make an video about every country flag? But there an military dictatorship.
Maybe I'm just used to them, but to me the old versions of the India and South Sudan flags look way better
I don't like the South Sudan change at all
@@nifelheirn I mean, one of the takeaways of this video is pretty much that no version is "correct" if the law doesn't state the exact colors. In the India example the darker version became correct simply because a manufacturer produces/started to produce it darker
Can somebody tell me if there is a reason their government preferred the lighter shade of blue?
I like new India flag not South Sudan's flag
light blue just does not look good
Will you include the welsh flag change? (The fact this even happened is awful) On the 26th of July 2021, a Vandalization of the welsh flag hat added something to the Dragon, although someone tried to change it, the guy put it back and lasted believe it or not, 9 months.
Thanks for letting me know, I'll have to look into that
Was it a penis?
Very nice video! Stuff as granular as different versions of flags must be really difficult to pick through, especially when you consider things as subtle as hue variations. It's almost like the parameters for an "official" flag will always be up to interpretation because flags are just collections of abstract markers on fabric that we contextually use to identify a country and thus aren't always 100% the same if we deem it good enough.
Yooooo more flag drama!!!!
My favorite new hyperspecific topic!
Ah yes, I work with city flags on wikipedia, and there are lots of arguments to do with the colours of it, there are also the occasional arguments over the colours of the Japanese prefecture flags, e.g. Niigata prefecture....
Same. Trying to translate from Munsell to RGB and even others like CIE is an absolute pain in the ass.
As a Thai I often see that the Thai flag's color contrast/brightness is not clear. Some make the flag way more darker than some, even the Thai flag I own has a brighter contrast and simply searching up 'Thai flag' gives 2 different flags with different brightness.
Most of the time, the colors suggested by the OPM for the national flag, suggested in 2016 or 2017, is just way too dark when on a screen
I'm from Spain, and here until Franco's dictatorship the flag always used the lighter colors. I think that was with a decree from 1982 that made the colors darker. Even though, the lighter one is the most used nowadays
That's interesting, if you know where I could find a source for that decree please let me know
Esto con franco no pasaba
@@cubicallystupid Xd
Glad you're back!
If you plan on doing a part 3, here's some stuff for you.
The Kingdom of Armenia, there were 2 cited flags that were kept for several years up until a few months ago when they were removed for having innacurate sources.
Although I'm not certain about it, I think there was an edit war over the flag of the Mongol Empire.
As an Indian who lives in India, the dark and dark is the one used the most. No one uses the light ones. Even the governments use the dark ones. And during my time in Spain, the lighter one is the official one.
Hi! I liked the first video on this topic so I stepped in to watch this, and was taken aback by the flag animation scene used as a resource at 0:26.
I'm from the flag animation community myself (which, in fact exists), and it's certainly flattering when someone takes some output of ours and uses it transformatively like that sequence. Of course, the same can't be said when it's flat-out content theft. But either way, we'd be content with being credited for the usage of our work, which isn't all that quick to put out.
With that said, would you mind placing credits for that resource on the description? We'd be very glad to have that :D
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Yes if you can show me the original source for the animation I will gladly credit them in the description. I could have sworn there was already a link to the video I took it from, but it appears it must have been lost in the process of formatting.
There's also an example of the Transcaucasian Democratic Federative Republic, a short-lived state in the Caucasus region in 1918. For some time it showed a yellow-black-red flag. It's cited to come from CRW Flags, which itself cites it to random book that mentions such flag. It was decided that the flag isn't real, but there's still some articles that show the flag next to the country, and the problem is even bigger for other language editions. It seems they didn't get the memo about the flag, because most foreign versions of the article still show the flag in the infobox.
CRW is going a massive update work, it may not have reached them yet
NOJ IS BACK!
Honestly, idk if you are planning to even make part 3, but I will still keep writing examples I can find. So, quite recently, the flag that was for years present in the article about the Duchy of Warsaw, was removed. For years, it pretty much featured a modern flag of Poland, with a slightly different shade of red. It was recently removed, as there were no actual sources to prove that it was the flag of the duchy. It was replaced with a banner of arms, which personally, I'm not sure was historically used either
Something interesting is that back when I lived in Honduras the flag was always a deep navy blue, they even teached us that It represented both seas off our coast. but apparently it was always supposed to be light blue, now I don't know if that just an old 50s mistake or wikipedia had something to do, because they definitely were using the dark blue version even though the light blue version was law for over 60 years I believe, just not inforced before the new government?
The Government of Honduras decided to pick a shade and told the world to update
The Australian flag used to be legally defined as "a defaced British blue ensign" (which uses the correct vexillological jargon) but anti-British politicians changed it to be simply "a blue flag" so it is now correct to manufacture the Australian flag using sky blue.
redesigns and variations are not "defacing"
that happens when you pick a flag AND THEN phisically add stuff or writings on it
@@FlagAnthem Defacement is a vexillological term, meaning to add an additional symbol or charge. The flag of Australia is a blue ensign defaced with a series of stars. You're thinking of defacing like vandalism, where you draw something on a flag you're not supposed to draw
Since the first video, I have become the only guy in the entire Spanish Wikipedia to fix these minor but sometimes big problems. Spanish Wikipedia is always too short, without any references and using fictional flags without reason. At least most English articles care about this and add a text saying "This is seen in x book about cartography" or something like that.
As Wikipedias uses Wikimedia as the database for images. So if a change happens on "English Wikipedia" (i.e. the change is done on Wikimedia) then it will also apply on Spanish Wikipedia. That is if the source image is changed as shown in this video. You can switch out the image file for a new one, that won't affect any other language. But flags usually only have one image file.
@@Liggliluff I was talking about fictional flags, articles that are EXTREMELY SHORT, if in English they at least add "this is an stub" in Spanish that infobox is outdated and doesn't work.
There was an article about the flag of Sweden-Norway with didn't have anything more that information about the navy jack. So I had to add every single flag used by the two nations in this period.
Italy flag article didn't even have the Kingdom of Italy flag, and no mention of it anywhere.
@@Liggliluffproblem is that now wikimedia has sealed file edit
2:30 I before wondered about this, that is not the real flag, that wrong flag appeared on Wikipedia, i needed you, keep it up!
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Interesting wrong flag moment I think: The current banner in use on Wikipedia for the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom page is not actually a Taiping flag. It's a Pingnan flag that was incorrectly cited as a Taiping flag. It's still on the page as the official banner.
(It was removed lmao)
Thanks, I'll look into this
I don't think so, It seems unlikely that a Muslim rebellion would use a flag with a dragon on it, not to mention the flag was found in Jiangsu, which is very far away from where the Pingnan rebellion happened.
Not to mention it actually has a source from 2004 that says it is
@@pronpalunpo what do you mean?
@@scishowwithmoh7216 I don't personally have access to the museum so I can't speak on the validity but what I can confirm is the flag cited as the banner used in the Heavenly Kingdom is not on exhibit in Nanjing, and has never been used by the Taiping Tianguo. I have extensively read over every first hand source available and have not found any proof confirming this banner as used by the Taiping. The sole source claiming it was used during the rebellion is from a Korean tourist who mistakenly attributed it to the Taiping because it was on loan to the museum in Nanjing. If it was really a Taiping flag, why was the file renamed to 'Flag used by Du Wenxiu' and why exactly is there zero proof confirming it is?
Not natioal flag, but I have noticed that the problem with inconsistent flags can go all the way down to city flags. I have recently found a few flags of cities in Poland, with wrong flags on their wikipedia pages. For example, the flag of Elbląg in Poland, used in Wikipedia until 2023, was nothing like the flag actually ised by the city, except for basic description, because the author interpreted what flag should look like basing on text description, and not on image of flag actually used by the city. And I'm afraid if someone where too look closely, there's probably a huge number of flags of cities and subdivisions that look different to what's on wikipedia
I agree, local flags often have few pictures to go off of and are liable to have been made from text descriptions (and are also less likely to be checked by people)
@nojrants also, way harder to actually find actual official descriptions or even pictures. Most of the time, it's hidden somewhere on some obscure government website, if it's there at all. On many occasions, it ends up being quite vague
Also, shout out to cities that make official descriptions of their flags, not at all consistent with the official pictures of the flags. I swear, if the city bothers with listing actual proportions of their flag, it will be completely inconsistent with the picture, and sometimes not even physically possible.
I knew India and Spain’s flags look a bit different than usual on Wikipedia
Tapakapa once said that screens and fabric are different mediums for color.
What might look dull on a screen looks natural on fabric
In the words my Spanish friend, as long as you don't use the Franco one, nobody's going to care that much about the flag.
Another example is Duchy of Warsaw, a French client state from times of Napoleonic Wars. For over a decade, the infobox showed the white and red flag (similar to the moder flag of Poland, but with different shades). It was actually just recently removed (I think 2023), and was later replaced with royal baner of a white eagle on a red background. Also, worth noting that the first official use of such flag design appears over a century later, in 1918
We need a part 3!
Gotta be honest, the darker blue on South Sudan’s flag looks better on the eyes.
As an Indian Wikipedia changed India’s flag to the wrong hue and it annoys me so much when I am getting the flag from Wikipedia
Which version do you believe is the most accurate?
@@nojrants the old one
The presumably fake flag (circle symbol and lines below) of the Ryukyu Kingdom (today's Okinawa of Japan) on Wikipedia has also spread to a point where its one of the first results you find when you look up their flag. Although it looks cool, this flag is probably from a novel from the 40s rather than it being an actual flag used by the kingdom.
It has been removed from the Japanese and English pages but its actually still on the Chinese page for the flag.
The Sequel we all so desperately needed
Let's see how well my country defines our national flag
"The flag of the Philippines shall be blue, white and red with an eight-rayed golden-yellow sun and three five-pointed stars, as consecrated and honored by the people."
Oh fuck-
Somehow, some cities and regencies in Indonesia that actually don't have any flags have it on Wikipedia
what are "regencies"?
here we go again...
The thing is that flag colours shouldn't be defined too strictly. Flags are a pre-industry thing and should be possible to be constructed by nationals easily, from fabrics that are somewhat easily accessible at home.
Wow, I just saw this video but I actually changed the flag in Wikipedia (9th October 2023) to the correct light-blue one.
Botton line is how important is this? I mean some countries don't even care to make an official document explaining the flag, so what gives? If it wasn't wikipedia it would be something else, news outlets? conflicting websites? personal preference? and manufacters saving money on certain colors or maybe trying to their spin on it (lol)? The primary use of a flag is identification, and I think we all can agree: "oh that's south sudan, oh that's india, oh that's spain".
Is it just me, or is the new flag of South Sudan really bad?
They've only been a country for a little over a decade, give them a break.
The light blue definitely looks weird
I kinda like it more than the old one actually
original editor here, we changed it to a better shade, i was going off of the news article
@@PlatinumAltariano
Maybe you could talk about the color variations on the lion of the Spanish flag. Sometimes it's pink, sometimes it's purple
As an Indian (Bharatiya), there have been many speculations regarding to the flag colour of the tiranga (the name of the flag).
But also in many current and old sources, both Dark and light green had been used ever since. And many sources would either use saffron or even a classic orange.
It's true, the government isn't pointing out the right flag color of the Indian flag. They need to try to do something similar as the officials of Vatican City did.
Till the government response, people are allowed to use the 2 alternative Indian flags untill further notice. 🇮🇳
The "technically accurate" versions of the american flag 💀
there was a contest to pick the current 50 stars so you already have it
Using darker colors on flags makes sense to producers who don't want their products to easily sun bleached. No one is going to buy your flags if the colors run
We need a part 3
Part 3 and this guy must have 1 million subscribers this is a great video
This could all be avoided if every constitution included the hex codes for colors on the flag.
Also it just occured to me, when using photographs to create a SVG of the flag you could erroneously pick the colors due to the way the device picks up colors, compression loss, etc.
This is not really a Wikipedia problem but a user ignorance problem I have seen. 100s of times now on RUclips videos/adverts/etc where people have used the wrong flag for the UK. They have instead used the old "Flag of Great Britain" that was used from 1707-1801. This is because they don't know the difference between Great Britain and the United Kingdom. When searching for the flag online they just type "flag of Great Britain" and pick the first one they see. What's worse to me I have seen videos by people who ARE British get this wrong in their own videos. I even found a UK University uploading a video with the wrong flag in the thumbnail. I think when this happens it's often been edited by someone who isn't from the UK.
I have found another example if you ever wanna make part three. Article of the Vermont Republic for many years until 2023 used banner of the Green Mountain Boys as the flag of the state until I spotted the mistake and removed it. The banner was never the symbol of that state and wasn't used since the end of the revolutionary war. However, in modern times, it gained the it gained the popularity and is mistakenly used as a historical flag even though it never was. There is actually no evidence that Vermont Republic had ever used any flag
Not wikipedia but someone else got the imperial japan flag mixed up with their naval flag, and the flag of rhode Island is wrong
When using Wikipedia always double check information . For example The Wikipedia page about ships in the DPRK NAVY says that the The new modern corvette uses the hull of a ship twice of as large is it
The light blue South Sudanese may be correct, but to me it just makes it look like a cheap knockoff of the dark version. Plus, Wikipedia’s version seems to be way too light compared to the actual images of the light blue flag in use.
Yup. Same with the ""official"" version of the Scottish flag, vs the dark blue version traditionally used & employed in the Union Flag.
The ""official"" one looks like a knockoff, or one that's run in the wash 😅😆
*Reverts Your Edit*
*Reverts Your Edit Back*
@@Rick123X Reverts your edit
Wikipedia, almost a Stand Alone Complex
That was the whole philosophy behind the "wiki"
I guess the darker hue of the Indian flag's kesari orange panel is to bring it more in line with bhagwa orange that represents the ethno-religious identity of the current dispensation.
I just like the darker blue in the South Sudan flag
Did you say i should vandalize the sites and bother the shit out of the wikipedia editors? Got it! On my way!
I've noticed the dragon on the Qing Dynasty flag has changed over the years. Earlier versions had the dragon looking more simple.
Note: the mongol empire didn’t have a flag
It makes sense to me that the darker shade of orange on the Indian flag may be something to do with prolonging the colour for outdoor flag use against bleaching
1:50- UNITED STATES OF NEPAL
07:38 there may be discrepancies , but the hues that should be used in the spanish flag are mentioned in both the spanish and english articles about the spanish flag.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain#Colours
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandera_de_Espa%C3%B1a#Colores
and both use the 1981 royal decree 441 as the source.
Every mention I've found of the central color in other official spanish uses of the flag (such as the military branches, and the goberment and legislative bodies) always uses the word "gualda" wich refers to the same color as the one in the 1981 decree.
Therefore, any other colors use outside the permited margins of error is just manufacturing errors and us "not caring enough"
the only version of the People's Republic of Ethiopa's flag (1987-1991) I can find is the digitized Wikipedia version and it has dumbest looking lion on the emblem
This sounds like an example of the flag maker not doing a very detailed job in recreating the flag, leading to the odd-looking lion becoming standard
See also: The flag of the Hopi Tribe, which has the most lazily SVGd corn plants, which directly contradict the version used on the tribe's website.
I think people are struggling with saturation and brightness variation across different weights of fabric. Two flags with the same colours and under the same lighting would look different if one fabric is noticeably more translucent than the other.
Wikipedia's version of the Spanish flag is actually correct. The Spanish constitution explicitly says that the middle strip has to be "gualda" i.e dark yellow. However most of the people (even Spaniards) don't know this and think that it's just yellow.
I saw that my country flag (Puerto Rico) in Wikipedia is incorrect.
The colors are sort of right for the most part, but the dimensions aren't.
Wikipedia shows a dimension of 2:3 in the flag, but the actual flag is 5:8.
Just goes to show you that people just look at images available of a country flag and recreate it in a SVG, but in reality it might be unofficial.
(LITTLE NOTE: the Puerto Rican flag has 3 variants, people prefer the 1895-1898 version as the true flag, then there's the 1952 version that is used mainly by the government, and the current 1995 variant, which is defined as the national flag)
I feel that it's very likely for them to have the wrong flag of the Spanish Empire, since a lot of people confuse the red cross (which is the flag for the Iberian Union) as the flag for the Spanish Empire
Well most wiki articles have modern 50 star US flag on articles about historical US stuff from well before there was 50 states yet.
The Virginia state flag is incorrect on Wikipedia. It appears to be a creation by an editor there who likes creating vector art. The whole creation process can be followed on the talk section and upload history of the Wikimedia commons svg file. The actual, official flag design, keeps being reuploaded and reverted over and over again up to just last month. Of course, this incorrect flag appears as the top Google result when you search for the flag.
Go check out the flag of Eswatini, the blue stripes have gotten lighter
ngl the tilted star kinda slaps
Nice video!
I personally find the sky blue triangle more attractive than the cobalt or navy blue version.
Also the left-aligned star is cooler than the upright star.
Why did the Indians had to propose the Bulgarian flag with extra decorations as the flag of the Indian independence movement in 1921?!
Wtf I did NOT expect to hear about Glen Burnie MD on a RUclips video today. Especially not the local flag store. Thats super goofy.
You should check out flags of Afghanistan and their controversy there is a constant fight on what Afghanistan flag is atleast on updated flag quizzes they can’t decide on using the Taliban or democratic government’s one or even Yemen
Taliban has 0 recognition
@@FlagAnthem Pakistan, China and Russia disagree
@which tells a lot
The article on the Republic of Ezo used to have a flag that was probably fictional.
Very cool stuff
Thank you!
I was reading a description of the flag that the Ghaznavids used from a source and it directly matched the flag that is now attributed to the Almuwahhidun. I don’t know how that happened.
The red color of the Norwegian flag was way too light for a lot of years. It was finally changed last year. This change has been clearly reflected everywhere on the internet, with flags with the dark red suddenly starting to appear. Wikipedia is incredibly influential!
I also noticed the India flag on wikipedia to be different
Micronesia especially I believe is wrong. I've never seen the flag as light blue as on Wikipedia actually being used.