The Worst Flags Proposed For Countries (That They Didn't Use)
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- ▶ In this video I talk about a few of the worst flags that have been proposed for countries. None of these ended up being used, for various reasons which we find out in this video. From the awful European Union's 'bar code' flag, to the crazy proposals in the New Zealand flag contest, among many others.
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Established Titles has proven to be a scam.
@@email5023 No way! I'm now an honest-to-God duke thanks to them, for the low low price of £9.99.
@@leisti yea that was a lie, you dont own any land, they also lied about the trees as well
Please upload a video where you will show our flag designs again
The laser kiwi flag is the best proposal I have ever seen
I dunno. A kiwi with a mech armed with nuclear bomb launchers might be a bit better.
It even has its own article in Wikipedia.
A flag so bad, it's so good 😆
No, it’s clearly Potato Man.
@a basketboy Silence sheep fricker, let the Kiwi take over and get rid of that ugly bri'ish wo'ah mark.
NOTE: The “Established Titles” is a S C A M. You don’t actually become a lord, and you don’t actually own land. It’s a SCAM. The Land Registration (Scotland) Act 2012 clearly states that souvenir plots can’t be registered with the Land Register of Scotland which means you don’t actually legally own the land. In fact, the plot you have “bought” can be sold to other people as well since it’s not registered.
Are you sure about that?
@@DefenderoftheOctoberists
Absolutely
Just as i thought
the HQ of ET is in Australia If I remember correctly
Some youtubers are now coming out about the said charity, so far both the click and pegases have now stopped and now to give away the sponsorship money.
1:50 I believe you missed the point of the guy's design. Rather than eliminating the stripes from the flag altogether, I think he's submitting six different designs for changing the field of stars at one time. I presume his logic was since the arrangement of the stars was the only change to be made, it was more efficient to not include elements that didn't change, hence no stripes.
Yeah probably. The aspect ratio on those flags aren't even normal. Too square. It's more similar to the blue square of the U.S. flag
Possible. Still awful though.
I did not come to my mind but now when I read your post It is clear that you are right. It is not one flag proposal but six proposals for the constelation of stars on the american flag.
you're right but the current american flag is good as it is
@@RafaelMunizYT the proposals were from the time when two new states were accepted into the union and the flag had to be redesigned. The country was trying to solve how to fit the new number of starts into the blue field and these were six proposals.
Fun fact: That proposal Brazil's flag is now the flag of São Paulo state.
The best flag we saw in that video
And the other one is basically the flag of Goias
I knew it looked familiar!
Yes, and the reason for the colors is to reference the “three races theory” on Brazilian history that was popular back then, that states that Brazilians were a people born from the mixing of three races and each color would represent one of them, the red for the indigenous, the black for the Africans and the white for the Europeans. Many republicans liked it because it represented the people of Brazil rather than the land or the monarchy, but it was rejected. So the republicans just adopted it for the state of São Paulo instead because that’s the state where the Republican Party of Brazil was founded and was considered the main beacon of republicanism in the country at the time. That’s why it has the map of Brazil in there instead of just the state’s. Oh, and the four stars are meant to represent the Southern Cross constellation, something that actually made it into the final national design.
@@azahel542 this is the United States of Brazil
New Zealand not implementing the laser kiwi flag is one of the great tragedies of our age.
It's weird that Haiti and Liechtenstein changed their flags because they were too similar but Monaco/Indonesia and Romania/Chad haven't done the same.
Because Haiti and Liechtenstein didn't know each other's flag. Unlike Indonesia and Chad, who knew Monaco and Romania's flag, respectively, but still decided to make a similar one.
Romania adopted the flag after Chad.
@@C0lon0 not really. Romanian flag dates back to the 1880's based on a flag used some 30 years before that. now when the socialist got to power they added the coat of arms, but the flag itself it's the same
But Chad used the actual flag before Romania returned to use their.
Monaco and Indonesia are competing in finding the oldest reference to their own flag from any old books they could find lol
the depiction of the kangaroo on the australian flag is actually pretty iconic as it’s seen pretty much everywhere including on food packaging
He said he liked the idea of it, but just not the particular design. Australia is an embarrassment regarding its flag. The Union Jack? In 2023? Are you still a colony? Same with NZ. Come on, kids. Grow up.
@@alukuhito You should grow up and read some history books. Those flags have more meaning than anything they could make up. Go learn about aus and nz history.
@@froglifes6829 It's time to set aside the Union Jack. Don't glorify British colonization, Dork.
But it's a bit late to put on the flag. At this point it's a common tourism tool and that cheapens out the look of the flag. Australia is more than a country for tourists and the country has a lot more to offer.
Just letting people know with the sponsor, Established Titles has been in some hot water lately for allegedly being a scam. While I obviously do not know for sure, it seems very likely that they're basically just doing the star registry again, where you send them money and they give you a worthless piece of paper saying you own something you don't. Be cautious out there, don't want anyone getting ripped off.
Scotland has _established_ that such small plot of land isn't recognised, and land ownership doesn't make you a Lord. Plus the company doesn't have transparency, so the tree planting thing is likely fake too.
As a scotsman I find it hilarious seeing people panning that shite, all the ads make it out like scotland is some tolkienesque place where people don't speak english and run around in kilts fighting other clans. Those days are long gone but just shows ignorance and naivety go hand in hand. I'd pay for a yank to come to glasgow claiming they bought lordship online, would send peoples' sides into orbit from laughter.
Yeah its a scam
The thing that gets me is that, basically from the beginning I thought "oh, this is like that star thing, you don't actually own that land in any meaningful way, but it's just an excuse to do some reforestation, so that's cool." But then, from what I've heard, they don't even do that!
THANK YOU I KNEW SOMEONE IN HERE WOULD POINT THAT OUT!!!
I'm guessing the Canadian proposal using the French monarchist flag may have been influenced by the fact that when the French lost control of Canada (following the French and Indian War of 1754-1763), France was still a monarchy.
Ceded control in favour of Guadeloupe, actually. The French actually conquered Canada back during the war. But yeah, the republican tricolour was never a Canadian or Quebecois symbol until modern times when it got incorporated into various francophone flags. The lily is a symbol of French-Canadian identity here and has almost been entirely separated from its monarchist association.
@@katherinegilks3880 *québécois identity
@@katherinegilks3880 The French never reconquered Canada during the Seven Years War (French and Indian War). The spring after Quebec fell, the French managed to defeat the British outside Quebec and put it under siege but never retook it as British reinforcements arrived. The rest of the French in Canada surrendered in 1760 and that was the end of their rule there. At the time of the 1763 peace treaty Britain held both Canada and Guadeloupe, but the French and Spanish had captured some British and allied territory elsewhere (although the British captured much more overall). In the treaty negotiations France had limited options in what they could ask back in exchange for returning British territory so they decided to negotiate for Guadaloupe because of its sugar profits, rather than Canada that actually cost them money. So essentially the French chose to trade Minorca for Guadeloupe rather than try to exchange it for Canada.
@@Game_Hero NO!!! It's NOT the québécois identity, it's the identity of ALL FRANCOPHONES THROUGOUT Canada. Don't you know that 30% or more of all Francophones don't even live in Québec.
@@danielfortier2629 You mean the Acadians and the Québécois diaspora?
10:20 - They used the French monarchist flag because French Canadians are generally descended from the French settlers of Nouvelle France from 1534 to 1763 - which was governed by the French Monarchy
That makes sense! Thank you
Fun Fact: Established Titles is a scam.
not neccesary a scam but clearly deceptive marketing.
But you plant a tree 🌳 helping the environment and you ha have something cool to show
No
It's like you went to their site, and then you bought something that clearly you didn't own, and they give a paper saying blablablahh you're a lord/lady now
Just research it, it's clearly a scam.
@@emib6599 They don't even have proof they plant trees, so that's very likely false as well.
@@emib6599 1) your not planting a tree and 2) they lied you dont actually own the land
8:56 - Fun Fact: This flag proposed by Júlio Ribeiro was actually adopted, but not as the national flag, it was adopted as the flag of the State of São Paulo.
And for good reason, it's a great flag. No idea why it is in this video alongside someone trying to trick a swastika into the US flag.
I get that it's a bit complicated, but I much rather have a cool but complicated flag than the flag of Poland (or Indonesia or Monaco, obviously).
It's ugly
Yeah, it's São Pauo state flag and I don't think it's ugly.
Why did you timestamp Canada though?
@@B3Band The original timestamp is for Brazil, but since the sponsor are removed, the Brazil timestamp ha been moved to 7:30
The laser kiwi flag is amazing. I also love the Canadian 'beaver riding a goose' flag, although it was never seriously considered.
Yes, I would have loved to see that on this list. 😁
I feel like the guy who proposed the usonian blue with stars one was actually proposing alternatives for the corner with the needed 50 stars and the stripes would remain the same
Came here to say this
This is correct. His plan was to keep the red and white stripes the same.
What’s usonian
@@JustANervousWreck A much better suited name for the peoples from the USA.
Another proposition is Unistaters.
American actually apply equally to anyone living anywhere in the Americas, including Cuba.
@@Kualinar No, call us US American(s), not usonian or whatever. It sounds terrible.
“Mom, I’m gonna be founder of a nation, what should our flag be?”
“Just choose one from your childhood sketchbook!”
When he brought up Finland I went “oh no, what did we do” and I'm still laughing about how the worst proposals were just “this color scheme isn’t pleasing to the eye” and “this looks too much like an existing flag” lmao
u literally had flag of Somalia proposed 💀
even the old libya flag is better
Old Libya flag is funny, because it's just green coat of paint in Microsoft paint
stfu that was one of the best flags in history
Well you can’t go wrong with a full green banner
Fr
@@Dawn.tless. green screen: *crys loudly*
9:33 bro took it out of netflix intro
The white and blue Mexican flag is probably supposed to be a white and blue checkered pattern, but the emblem in the middle has a white field that essentially deletes some of the blue squares in the middle and makes it look like the other blue squares are random.
I'd hope that an official submission for a flag didn't have such a silly graphics editing goof/software artifact, but stuff happens i guess haha.
I think it was the way to use a maximum of rectangles without interfering with each other and with the picture in the middle.
3:32 = The guy trolled Poland like a pro, eh?
The European flag one is actually pretty good! Not as a flag, but certainly as a symbol of sorts to be used
Yeah, it's a pretty metal way to represent the complexity and ambition of their collectivization.
What if they grouped identical colors together?
The first "flag" is almost certainly not an actual flag but is instead a compilation of possible orientations for the 50 stars in the upper left corner of the new flag.
How can someone possibly reject a flag as good as that Laser shooting Kiwi flag?
I really like the 1992 Australian kangaroo flag. It’s stylized in a cool way, makes a recognizable kangaroo out of just three lines. Very clever.
I think the stylization has too much of an 80s vibe though. It's not evergreen.
TO ANYONE INTERESTED IN ESTABLISHED TITLES: It's a scam, there's actually no scottish law that states that you can buy a plot of land and become a lord or lady. The prices are ridiculous, the website is sketch af, and the only people that will recognize the plot of land as yours is established titles, so not the scottish government.
Nice video, but i just want to give you the advise that maybe it is better if you stopped taking sponsorships from a scam company like Established Titles.
@@yuyoshida2076 it took some years but hopefully the scam will be done with soon.
But money.
4:09 I would instantly admire and move to a country that had a bird firing laser beans from its eyes as a flag
Ha, laser "beans" makes that image even funnier
That 2013 Australia flag proposal is really weird. It really looks like its representing conflict between the two peoples rather then unity.
Established titles is a scam
As a Canadian, I appreciate that you took a few moments to look at Canadian flag proposals. When you consider the one proposal featuring a Maple Leaf flanked by a British Union Jack and a French fleur de lys flag, the French fleur de lys was chosen rather than the French tricolour because when New France fell to the British in 1763, France was still a monarchy. You can see these French fleurs de lys in the present day flag of Quebec. Since France didn’t adopt the Tricolour until the French Revolution in the 1790s, inclusion of the Tricolour wouldn’t make sense on a Canadian flag.
How many people are going to say that?
8:06 That kangaroo drawing looks sick what do you mean!!
looks like a oversimplified logo
@@dudemp4 if they connected the lines more it would look better
You might want to reconsider the established titles sponsorship, they have been outed as a scam
I have seen that sponsorship in a lot of popular channels, can you elaborate more on that? Thank you.
@@marpintado A dude named Scott Shafer made a video where he dug deep into the validity of Established Titles, and found that they're a company run out of Hong Kong, owned by a Finnish dude who's owned previous shady businesses.
@@AwkwardTurtle_ Now that is precious, a very fruit of our times. 👍👋 Thank you for the clarification!
@@AwkwardTurtle_ wtf are they doing in my country scotland then
Who's gonna tell him about the sponsor
Every RUclipsr is promoting them, they don’t give a shit
Everyone, looking at the comment section
3:25 Ah yes. Had Poland chosen one of those designs, their flag would look like a flag of another nation!
I've already seen a couple of comments on it but just so everyone knows, Established Titles is a scam, Scott Shafer has made a really good video on it if you want more information.
Shut down Trees for the future if you think they're a scam. Don't be a 🐑, think for yourselves
@@havanadaurcy1321 but you don’t actually own the land, and they don’t have proof that they plant trees
Regarding the Mexican flag proposal by Teresa de Mier: The inspiration for the design is a battle flag used by José María Morelos y Pavón in 1812, during the Mexican war of independence. The differences are: The blue rectangles were smaller, and formed a checkered pattern around the flag, and the flag had an inscription in Latin, reading: Victrix. Oculis et ungibus ae que. (The winner, with eyes and claws.)
It's not a bad proposal. The current flag incorporates the colors of the Three Guarantees Army (The combined Spanish and Mexican army still fighting royalists) and the emblem on the flag of Morelos, and was originally adopted as the flag for the first Mexican empire under Agustín de Iturbide.
Later variations changed the coat of arms. The original imperial eagle was facing forward and upwards (and had a crown). The current eagle is facing left.
Not going to lie, I actually like the Aussie-Kangaroo flag. It's simple and carries the national colours. Australia really needs a flag change.....
i agree its a great looking flag. the other one would also have been good if it was simplified
@a basketboy Not everyone is that excited by Australia's connection with the UK and what about when the country becomes a republic? Australia really needs to change it's flag, even if it's just not to get it constantly confused with New Zealand's flag 😅
@a basketboy the problem with the current flag is that it doesn't really represent what Australia is now. It's a flag meant to represent Australia as a part of the British Empire. Not an independent Australia. Canada changed their flag from something similar years ago. It's not about it needing to represent everyone or honour aboriginal peoples (who are one minority amongst many in a multicultural Australia), it's about a flag that actually represent an independent Aussieland.
I agree! They should definitely move away from the old colonial flag. I would choose a different one than the Kangaroo though
As an Australian I can tell you we don’t have a proud connection to the uk
Totally makes it sound legit when the sponsor is suddenly in every new video all at the same time
It's ridiculous. MrBallen just had a video with it, then removed and re-uploaded without because he determined it to be a scam.
The laser-bearing kiwi seems like a really good option for me :)
You should research your sponsor mate. Lot of bad news surrounding them lately
Fun fact, the 2002 EU flag can actually get a discount if you scan it at the store.
4:15 that would be perfect for Belarus 😂
The Mexican one doesn't seem random at all. It has diagonal symmetry to it.
I really like the Nile river as a concept. The execution was terrible but I think it has potential for a great flag.
Might be a bit late commenting this but in regards to the sheep/cloud flag - I imagine part of the inspiration comes from the Maori name of the county, Aotearoa which means "Land of the Long White Cloud"
5:25 I respectfully disagree. That Kiwi flag is the best one out of Al the proposals
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the australia boomerang flag was nice, just fill in the yellow star and it would be a 10/10
That would defeat the purpose of it being an aboriginal design
2:55 Top right flag looks like Somalia...
Somalia...
Soma... Somi... Suomi...
(Mysterious music plays)
Holy crap
For Canada, it is not the royalist flag. It is the French royal Marine flag which was used by the colony of New France, and was also an inspiration for the flag of Québec.
I absolutely would love those two video ideas mentioned at the start.
For the Canadian flag you didn't like the flags represent upper and lower Canada respectively. Because Quebec was taken from the French when they where a monarchy, the royal standard represents them on this flag. Also, a french tricolour would look weird on another tricolour
Man Established titles are going all out atm 😅
1:48 Aren't these just 6 individual designes for the canton alone?
my thought too. and if thats true its not that bad
i like the bottom middle one
9:45 the proposal EU flag reminds me of the Netflix opening.
Established Titles has been confirmed as scam btw
9:00 The monarchist French flag was probably used because it is still present in our coat of arms (even though that was adopted in the 1920s I believe)
2:16 got me dead
The new zealand flag competition had some really good humorous ones, like the inverted japanese flag with NZ overlapping on the middle. I guess it just looked a bit too much like a certain other infamous flag.
You should see the Brazilian flag proposed by the Austrian designer Hans Donner, he added gradients and shadows in the colors of the flag and put "Love, Order and Progress", the original motto of positivism.
Does everyone have to advertise with Established Titles?
the idea about countries that are on the verge of changing their flag is pretty good
10:15 If they’d stuck with that one, but gone with the current French flag, then it would’ve been by far the most complicated flag to only use red, white and blue! 🤣
Wasnt the french flag all white at one point, but i hear russia is looking for a new flag right now, time to copy that white flag putin?
As you note with respect to several of the examples, a flag design should not include overly complicated elements. For that reason, I thought the stylized kangaroo in the proposed Australian flag was actually good. But I can't think of any other of the "bad" examples I thought differently about.
I actually like the eu barcode design, it isn’t a national flag so i think it doesn’t have to apply to national-symbolism-on-flags rules
Hey, man! The Julio Ribeiro's flag is the ACTUAL FLAG OF THE STATE OF SÃO PAULO, and when you see it flying, you realize how beautiful and stylish it is.
the Taiwanese flag looks like a wierd abstract Chinese Nintendo game release
The long sheep on New Zealand's flag also refers to the Maori name of the main Island, "Aotearoa'' which means long cloud.
I really didn’t expect Finland to be on this video.
Cool video, keep up the great work! 🇱🇨
aA lot of people is cutting ties with established titles, so you might wanna consider cutting ties with them too as it is said to be a scam
The kangaroo on that Austraia flag proposal is a mirrored version of the "Australian Made" logo, so we're technically already using it to symbolise the country.
It is a good flag, they should probably use it as an inspiration.
Hey man, can you please look into the sponsorship controversy?
BTW, the first one you showed that "eliminated the red and white stripes" did not do this. That was a set of 6 proposals to replace to blue bit - but the artist put 6 proposals together. He had no intended change to the red and white stripes, and only saw the need to update the blue bit, thus submitting 6 proposals just for the blue bit.
Why do you think there were 6 sets of 50 stars? Plans to balloon to 300 states?
With the canadian one, The triple fleur de lis was common. And it was even included on the two national flags before this (as a small part of the central crest). It was also on multiple provincial flags at the time.
Denmark has actually changed its flag once. During the Kalmar Union there was a common "Union Jack" based on the Dannebrog, but in yellow and red based on the colours of the Norwegian coat of arms. Sweden got the coat of arms of the Union instead, with the three crowns (originally symbolizing Gothia, Svealand and Lapland) in the Union coat of arms represented the crowns of Denmark, Sweden and Norway. This fact and the double meaning is also the reason why the Swedish Three Crowns are still on the greater Danish royal coat of arms to this date.
I have some thoughts after watching this:
I don't hate that Mexican flag with the blue rectangles, but I can see why it didn't win.
I actually kinda liked that Australian flag with the minimalist kangaroo design...
And finally, as a Canadian, I always thought that the flag needed some blue in it (it's symbolic in many ways). So, if I was alive back then and had a say in what the flag should be, I'd have voted for the 3 red maple leaves on a white background with the blue bars on each side. SO much better than our current flag...
The Mexican one was just a simplied version of a several-more-squared version of itslef, which if I remember well was one of the revolutionary flags during indepencence, and that I think would look really awesome without the emblem to make it messier
That Mexican flag would be a good flag for Mexico City IMO
Alfredo Pinto de Silva's Redesign of Portugal is so cool, like it stands out from many and it looks like a modern design, more like a new USA plains flag
8:06 I love this flag! I wish they would have used it, it's awesome and checks all the boxes. Green and gold colours, not too complicated, the kangaroo is basic and easy to reproduce but still obviously a kangaroo, and the southern cross is awesome
What you said about the Danish flag is almost correct. It's the oldest flag still in use, but there have been older flags before.
I think everyone should be able to draw or otherwise construct their own country's flag. That's why they should be simple.
Small curiosity: Julio Ribeiro’s proposal for a brazilian flag is now used as the flag for the state of sao paulo
I don't think any of the Finnish ones were super terrible. Personally I'd prefer a flag without a cross, but I get why at the time they chose a flag design that would be associated with Scandinavia.
as a dane, i find it interesting that most nations and peoples don't have an old symbol to represent them. so they have to make one. it's just weird when i think how old our flag is, it just always been there
All European countries (that existed in the Middle Ages) have old symbols used to represent them: their coats of arms. Flags as national symbols came into wide use only after nationally-oriented changes (French Rev., the unification of Germany, Italy) etc. Before 19th century, flags were mostly used to represent a ruler, or a navy, rather than a nation.
5:34 when you want to have flag and your mum says "we have flag at home"
That Green flag proposal for Australia from 1992 was kinda cool💁♂️✌🏻...
I'm kind of curious what the European barcode flag would look like if instead of having each flags colors striped and sequins, have the colors sorted out so you have all the reds, all the oranges, and so on and so forth through the Spectrum with the white bars as spacers between
6:00
As an Israeli, I think that the red background maybe symbolized communism, because the "Kibbutz" form of settlement (Google it) started as a communist idea (Without the support of the rest of the communist world in this time), although these days most of the Kibbutz settlements in Israel aren't communist anymore.
We only either flipped our flag for war or peace, or couldn't decide out of 56,923 shades for the blue part.
Which one
Fun fact: the flag proposed to replace the EU flag was actually used in a different way during the 2021 Eurovision Song Contest held in The Netherlands that year, depicting all the European countries contesting.
"The white dots seem too detailed for a flag"
Turkmenistan:
You'll find the first proposals for a European flag (made in the 1950's) in this video: ruclips.net/video/djmGn2u_qrs/видео.html
I liked the proposed Nile Egyptian Flag, anyone else?
I love hearing about the history of the national symbols. Please continue you work (both ideas mentioned are great). Another idea is looking at the national coats of arms...
I think that in the one submitted by Philip Brown (the USA one with the 6 blue squares with the stars), he was trying to show how to replace just the blue section of the flag with one of those 6 designs
You should probably remove the Established Titles sponsorhip segment from the video because it's a total scam...
For more context go to Scott Shafer's video
Would love to see a video about the oldest flags
Haven't seen most of these, very interesting!
I would definitely watch those other flag videos!