The fanfiction I found ruined me. I can no longer see life the same way. But yeah, nothing phases me anymore except fluff It is forever a problem of fanfiction readers ✋️😔
There was a time on tiktok back in... idk sometime between 2021 and 2022, where fandom and booktok started overlapping on fyps, and, because of people talking about how "spicy" acotar was, a trend got started where people who frequent fandom soaces had to read some of the scenes out loud to a friend. Needless to say, a lot of us never even flinched... nor did the friends 😂 Explicit scenes in writing definitepy arent for everyone, but it is really funny to me how there is such a big difference in whats considered extreme between different types of reading nerds [affectionate].
Fanfic websites get absolutely wild, and I was on Tumblr before they banned NSFW content (or at least tried to). Some of the stuff booktok claims is spicy is kind of surprising to me. I guess a lot of them are on the younger end, so it makes sense, but the comparison is very funny.
@@bishielurfer If I had to guess, in spaces like Ao3 where NSFW is allowed the spice scale starts at explicit sex and goes up the kinkier/more fucked up and taboo it is while on booktok the starting point is "the barest hint of romantic or sexual tension" and goes up the closer you get to explicit sex. So the ceiling for booktok is like the the floor for Ao3. Do I have it correct?
I’m a longtime fanfic reader who is recently getting into romance novels, and the last one I read was pretty explicit, but faded to black right in the middle of what would have been a pretty key scene in a fanfiction. Fanfic readers would have revolted if a writer had posted that chapter with its porny cliff hanger, then the next chapter is just pillow talk the next morning. It was especially weird because plenty of other scenes didn’t fade to black.
There was a time in grad school where this indie author was handing out a bunch of copies of his book for free. There were some poorly disguised scenes that involved octopus arms and it became a game in my cohort to see how much you could read aloud before someone got visibly uncomfortable. My days of diving down fanfic rabbit holes paid off in spades. The only thing I cringed at was the terrible, clearly unedited writing.
'Lucien was pretty sassy' 😂 Lucien was my favourite character for a good portion and then The Mysterious Stranger at Cal-En-My (audiobook reader I have no IDEA how that is spelt). The Mystery Man is panning out I have to say 😏
I remember thinking it had no spice when I began book 2 and asked my teacher if I could do my book report to it. He decided to pick a random section of it to read to confirm it was as tame as I said it was and flipped to one of the most *spicy* pages in the entire book. I then for years thought it can't get worse than this. I just got Kindle Unlimited, wish me luck.
Sophomore year, 15 years of age, I did a book report on the 6th book of the Anita Blake series. First book I read in the series, Dance Macabre. Spicy is the word for the series considering the... Settings of the world. Great series.
I totally get what you're saying! Whenever I read books I get so uncomfortable with those scenes and what not so I try to just skim over it to catch important parts of the plot/story and not the... yeah
Came here to say the same about ACOTAR and Fourth Wing. It's all about the fantasy and plot for me. I listen to the audio books and sometimes just hit the forward button once or twice.
If acotar is low spice then I refuse to read any more oml I hate those scenes so much, it one pops up the whole series is immediately over. Doesn't exist anymore
i'm actually relieved when i hear people say they dont like spicy scenes-- because i personally hate writing them. I'm working on a story rn, and it keeps going back and forth in my head: what age is this aimed at? to much violence and language for YA, not enough smutt for adult. characters are too young for adult, but it's too mature for YA... im in a gray area inbetween, but i don't want to go fully into adult territory because i HATE writing SMUT and i'd much rather focus on emotional relationships than write the physical stuff that feels like a cheap and shallow replacement for actual relationships to me.
I completely relate. Maybe if your book is neither YA or adult, it could fall under New Adult? It’s a relatively new genre to bridge the gap between YA and adult fiction
As someone who actively looking for Non-Spicy adult books, there is DEFINITLY a market for it. Just because it's adult does not mean it has to have spice. Honestly, i'd prefer if writers took the time to make their characters fall in love rather then fall in lust. But falling in lust is quicker then having actual character emotional growth.
When I was younger, I really enjoyed the explicit sex scenes. They were naughty and I felt somehow I was doing something exciting by reading them. As I've gotten older they've become boring. I would much rather read a well-written story of people whose emotions are growing. Realistically that pulls me in more than something that has a lot of arms and legs going everywhere. Sometimes a sex scene in a story can be very satisfying if It fills an emotional beat in the story.
There's a number of new adult writers that write books that are too mature for YA but are clean. I prefer books that actually focus on the relationship. Cuz that's what's gonna last. Hot lust ain't gonna get you far alone. So books that are just heat I drop. Without companionship development it won't last. No matter how much they are "mates"
As someone who writes, too, I would say you cen definitely include or exclude as much smutt as you want and still make it an adult book. To me, the level of smutt in an adult-oriented book would depend on what focus I want to give it. If I want it to be explicit, it can go hard on both the darkness/violence and the smutt as one can be used as relief (for the characters and their mental states if it's a consensual pairaing), while the former builds the need for closeness and relief. If the focus is on the darker parts, and you want to highlight how the relief gained isn't enough, you could even have fade to black and work in how the stress keeps building for the characters and nothing is helping. Rant over lol, sorry. Not sure if that helped or was unnecessary.
You really can't win with spice, it seems. Some people complain because the spice seems too inessential, while others complain that it's not inessential enough and wish it could just be easily skipped altogether. Lol
@@pendlera2959 Ayes, if it's not somehow integral to story and/or character development, then it's not supposed to be included at all-unless you're writing smut only for smut's sake, which is when you start getting accusations of just being "p*rn"(if you weren't already simply for having any on-page s*x or steaminess present at all) and get screamed at and/or chased around with pitchforks about how there's no place for that in real literature or whatever, and you might sometimes even be told how even Erotica has more of an actual and/or better plot and writing than that or whatever. If you don't like s*x scenes yourself, that's fine, but it's kinda odd to me that anyone would expect that they should be able to skip anything if it's actually included in the final/published draft without being okay about probably missing some things. But to each their own, I guess.🤷🤷♀️🤷🏻♂️ 🙂 Lol
I hate when plot continues through the spice scenes because it feels so weird and unnatural! No one is discussing business while going for it... i'm like shut up 🤣
The first three books have so little spice that I wouldn’t even consider them to be within the spice category. They’re just adult romance. But there were no large sex scenes so hopefully you didn’t skip vital stuff 😂 The longest scene is in ACOMAF and it’s like maybe two pages. ACOSF is a whole different story though
@@nivi2107 bro i bought the whole series but I hate spice (I am just a huge fantasy fan) ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ After reading your comment i am scared to read the last books or start the series.
@@secretofbeingsthe first 3 books are relatively low spice. 1-2 Spicy scenes a book and they only last a couple pages. The fifth book is very high spice. But the first three books were originally intended to be a trilogy. So if you aren't a fan of spice then you could easily stop there.
Ohhh boy as someone who's read Pamela Palmer and Nora Roberts books Acotar is nothing. But romance novels definitely arent for everyone you gotta find what you like. 😆
I'm rereading sign of seven from Nora Roberts and there's not as much snu snu as I remember but there is so much sexual build up and tension. She really committed to her romance and the paranormal story line so good too. Acotar while I enjoy the books so far the romance just seem to happen there's not a lot of tension or build up to them getting together it's just we belong together let's do it all the time! So I think that made it seem tame to me because I felt less invested in the romance. Just snu snu is great if that's what you want. But the tension and build up to the snu snu is what makes it more memorable. It gives Nora Roberts books some spicier spice imo! Lol 😆
@@Nioriel26 This is wild to me because imo, ACOTAR was nothing but sexual tension and build up for the first 2 books. Even when she was with Tamlin, there was sexual tension and build up happening between her and Rhys lol
Nora Roberts spicy? There's a built up of tension, but in the end I would normally rate her books a 2, or maybe 3 of spicyness... Then again, I've read fanfiction that pretty much goes beyond 5 out of 5, so....😊
What annoys me is, every person’s spice level rating is DIFFERENT and people act like it’s “meant” to be the same. People who call self proclaimed “low spice books” too spicy often get dissed hard by the book community and it’s like wtf? What may not be spicy for you may be spicy for someone else and that is OKAY. What isn’t okay is being judgemental.
It makes me think about how people are about food spice. People experience it at different levels and what's spicy to one person might be mild to another. But if someone has a low spice tolerance for any reason, including medical conditions, they're insulted and treated like there's something wrong with them. We'd all be better off if most people could just acknowledge that we all experience the world differently and enjoy different things.
No for real. It's actually so funny. I come from a very spicy book side with mainly dark romance and trigger warnings left and right for books and started the acotar series super excited about the spicy scenes that are possible with the fantasy element (they're my first fantasy books) and was like "that's.. that's it? No way!" I even texted my friend and asked if they get more explicit down the road 😂
Yeah, I don’t know why some people think that ACOTAR is just filled with smut, only the last book in the series has multiple explicit scenes, the main 3 are quite tame.
@@Sh4d0w_L1ckerI think it's the mentality of the characters. For those of us who don't actually think about sex ALL the time, it's uncomfortable to read about a couple who really aren't interested in anything else in their relationship. They may not 'do it' until well in, but it's clear from the start and all the way through that to Rhysand, Feyre is just a sex toy he will play with when he gets around to it; there's no appreciation for or even DEVELOPMENT of her personality.
@@cmm5542 I couldn’t disagree more, did you actually read the whole series? But anyways, why are you reading fantasy romance if you don’t like reading about romance? Just read fantasy without romance if you’re not into it. You’re reading romance then complain that the characters are romantically involved.
@@cmm5542Just sounds like a you problem. You know most people don't think about sex all the time but don't feel uncomfortable reading about sex. If you don't like it, don't read romance. It's also pretty obvious you haven't read the books or chose to severely misunderstand it, probably because of your own bias.
I get you im not really into spice either but i really like the fantasy genre it always just has the best plots. I also noticed that spicy scenes has actually increased in the fantasy genre specifically so yeah its difficult to find a good fantasy read these days
Romantasy isn't my favorite style, but when I do read it I always skim those scenes. I don’t mind them at all and they don’t hinder my enjoyment overall but they're definitely not for me. That was the case for ACOTAR and more recently for Fourth Wing and Iron Flame. Although with those I had to be careful because sometimes the protagonist would actually have plot relevant magical developments in the middle of spicy stuff or even get interrupted by an attack and if I wasn't careful skimming suddenly I would be like "wait wait are they screaming because they're about to climax or about to get unalived"😂
My God, I thought the same thing. The authors other series, throne of glass, just got progressively more and more spicy to the point I'd just skim through those sections.
I just had an entire conversation last month, inspired by the San Andreas Shifters series by Gail Carriger, about how there's really no good objective rating for spice anymore. To me that was a hefty amount of spice but a lot of people considered it low spice. Which makes it really hard to ask for recommendations when you don't know if the person you're asking is using the same scale as you.
As an allosexual person with a few asexual friends, I'm now the "pre-reader" telling them what pages they can skip and what the spice level is. I'm not a huge fan of erotica bits and also just want them to get back to the story, because there's a time and place for me and the middle of a battle is not it, but now I feel like it's my job to push through.
I think there’s a slight different to spicy and pure smut, where spicy you can still enjoy the story telling and then have that added bonus and the spicy chapters, but with smut I just feel there’s no actual story you’re really just there for the role play s*x hahaha
Role play sex in books isn’t a thing unless it’s specifically talking about bdsm or something. That’s just the couple dynamic. They’re not all healthy. So people should read with discernment
Some of the comments here just show how unempathetic some people can be 🙄 Like you didn’t say it was bad, just that spicy content isn’t for you amd didn’t judge anyone! Like I‘ve recently finished fourth wing and I also skipped some pages in that book, because I just find sex scenes absolutely boring and it was sometimes insufferable to me how horny they were about each other… Like I new that it would have spicy content because it is labeled as such, so I don‘t mind it at all, and I‘d still give the book 4 out of 5 stars because I loved the characters interactions with each other.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind spice, but it has to be well written, make sense for the plot, and not over do it. Once it’s all they can do/think about I start skipping cause it gets sooo boring, and don’t get me started on the stupid word choices, ie throbbing member immediate ick
@@bamagirlce12Yep, as an old-fashioned religious person I expected to be shocked when I sort-of-accidentally discovered fanfiction. The only thing that DID shock me was the glamourizing of abuse - with most normal sex scenes I was like 'THIS is what all the fuss is about? Spare me; I'm going back to the PLOT!' 😂
@@bamagirlce12 No bc same. It doesn't make or break a story for me, but sex scenes are soooo bland, boring and stale. Love the build up of the relationship, the flirting and the banter and the characters slowly getting closer, but I find the writing 99% takes a nosedive whenever sexytimes come up. And it's not bc it's vanilla or anything like that that makes my eyes start seeing through the pages whenever a sex scene happens, no no no, even if it's all hardcore or whatever, it still has me snoring, so I _know_ it's the writing. Not only that, but the writing _post_ sex scenes also tends to become worse in general, bc the writers get lazy with the characters and their dynamics and almost always fall back into making them satellites with no other thing going on in their mind than each other.
I feel the need to clarify - this isn't a challenge by any means, moreso "thinking aloud" for myself. if someone finds ACOTAR super spicy, or feels like OP period and feeling uncomfortable about that sorta thing, I actually heavily recommend AGAINST trying the Beauty series because it'll prob be extremely uncomfortable for you and there's no reason to make yourself uncomfortable. the book isn't so necessary that you need to even try unless you WANT that sort of content
I think I've seen a bit of Anne Rice's SB series, and I'm like, wow...I love my spice, but I think AR has beyond my own comfortability range...I think. I'd have to take a trip to Books-a-Million or B&N to try and re-read it. It's been a while.
That’s an erotica series vs a fantasy romance with sexual elements. Subgenre matters so people don’t shame books for them not knowing what they getting into when the information is free
Yeah I’m with you; I read them when I was…15-16 I think? Way too young imo to be reading anything like that (not that it’s something I want to read at all); honestly I thought it was on the high end too. I’m actually really glad you made this video because now I know to be super careful about what fantasy romance I read 😂
Lol yeah I read the entire throne of glass series (which thankfully is much less spicy than acotar) when I was 11, I didn’t understand any of the… yknow but loved the story, then i reread it again when I was 15 and was like “omg how did I read this at 11” then I proceeded to read acotar lmao
I think Pride and Prejudice along with The Night Circus are the romance books I enjoyed the most, and I’m still not finished with The Night Circus but it’s so hauntingly beautiful, and I recommend Pride and Prejudice to be among your first reads totally worth it unlike the movie though…. I love your shorts to the point where I’ll stay in RUclips way much more longer than I intended to if I clicked on one of your shorts♥️
Im like the opposite. As someone currently writing a fantasy romance book, I think it’s not too spicy but when most people see it they just go “OH MY GOD”
I wish someone could print books like ACOTAR without the spicy scenes. I'm really uncomfortable with reading anything smut but I really wanna be able to read popular books cuz I have fomo. Until then I'm ok with missing out
Unfortunately, there are VERY few books without sex scenes (or a 'fade to black' kind of scene) that are mainstream. Sex Sells, unfortunately. This is why branching out of mainstream is always a great choice.
@@GummyDinosaursifyI've honestly just avoided romance as a whole. Its just easier at this point plus my fav genres don't really align with romance sub plots so I'm in the clear.
Sure, but the video was specifically about ACOTAR and she says she had to skip "huge sections" because of the smut...which...is a bit misleading. Granted the following books do contain more spicy content.
@@EnolaElorie I guess she is referring to the series as a whole since she said huge sections, because usually if you talk about the whole series you call it acotar or a court of thorns and roses, so it can be a bit misleading when it's also the name of the first book.
I found out that is was semi spicy and gave it to my friend. I hate spice in books even the small things.. which is odd as if it’s a webcomic I read high levels of spice. I’m thinking of doing an experiment on my insanity and reading a book with non straight spice.
@@AB-zr8pu haha I know exactly what you mean! Season for everything, even if I do tend to lean towards the spice. Right now I'm reading the temple brothers and it's sorta medium spice, if that. But very wholesome.
@@alinab6571 ooh geez! There's such a range! I go through books like fairy floss! What's your vibe? You like the HEAs? The Dark Romance? Books that make you cry? There's so many different styles within that as well. I could go on 😅 But right now I'm reading the temple brothers, medium spicyish but very wholesome.
As an ao3 *veteran* (god the things I’ve read), and writer that focuses a lot on spice and erotica, honestly, it seems like a lot because the first three books were marketed as YA. And also we for some reason feel the need to shower everything in smut, is it just me or does it feel like the amount of smut has drastically risen? It’s like people can’t go for two seconds without some sort of pornography. It’s kind of ironic as someone who writes a lot of erotica, to just despise how it’s like everywhere now. Some days I just want to read about wizards, dragons, and such. That stuff in romantasy is usually super unnecessary and super cringe.
I used to read erotics, not because I was crazy about them, I was interested in how you can portrait romance and closure in many different ways. I planned on writing my own book one day and I read all the genres I had problems with. And now when I see books like acotar my brain is happy. I'm resting from that trauma that erotics were 😅
Because, those details aren't important to the storyline. The planned sex scenes in every chapter are too predictable, it feels like porn. I feel like it takes away from the intimacy of the couple. Sex sells I guess.
I'm late to the party but here is my two cents. Personally, I'm not uncomfortable with the spice per se. It's more to do with the fact that most writes have no clue how to write smutty scenes or the build up to the moment well.
Having read the Kushiel's Legacy series by Jacqueline Carey, most recommendations from booktok have been mild spice at best. (TW: Kushiel's Dart includes a lot of bdsm throughout, and r*pe in the middle section.)
Well acosf is definitely higher in spice but it definitely doesn’t compare to some of the stuff I picked up and quickly put down. If you can’t make it through the first chapter without adding spice, we have a problem. Or at least I do. I know some people enjoy spicier books but there’s an extent.
I rarely don't like smut scenes in romantasy, I'm fine with it, but ACOSF made me feel super weird tbh. Mostly bc it felt so forced to me and there was no real build-up that led to the explosion of smut after 200 pages of barely any plot at all. Never thought I'd say that, but as a reader I need a little bit of foreplay 😭
Here’s something even funnier. I am not a fan of “spice.” I’m not a prude, it’s just that if I’m in a spicy mood, I want to go do something spicy, not read or watch. That’s boring to me. I am a huge fan of ToG and the first 5 books had the perfect amount of romance content for me. An engaging romantic subplot that never got explicit and didn’t take up too much of the page relative to the action. Then I started reading ACOTAR when ToG was only partially finished and was shocked and a bit put off by the level of romance and spice content. Then I read Empire of Storms and thought that the spice level would be the same as the rest of the books in ToG, only to get smacked in the face with “velvet wrapped steal.” 😳😑 WHY?!
Honestly Scarlet St. Clair does smut a lot better. Her characters are full, her plots make sense, and consent matters. All things that cannot be said for ACOTAR imo.
If you weren’t comfortable with the spice level, then it certainly was too spicy. People’s perceptions can differ greatly, so it’s always best to just listen to yourself and don’t force it. Skipping spice in favor of the story is not the worst thing to do. :3
My husband read Fourth Wing and could not handle the graphic... spice. Was way beyond anything he had ever encountered in a book. The look on his face when I explained that it seemed pretty clean to me, compared to what I generally read in fantasy. 😂 I told him it's like when we go to a certain Asian restaurant nearby that has a 1-5 spice scale, but also an off-menu 0 that we call "white girl" (that's what I order). ACOTAR is that. 😂😂
See the reason I stopped reading Anita Blake wasn't the spice, it's because it felt like it started with a plot and then felt like it turned into PwP, and worse I didn't like the character direction. Whereas Meredith Gentry I had no problem with because it didn't feel like a bait and switch (I fully admit that my expectations for Anita Blake might have been working against me). Genuinely curious where other people rank the spice level of these.
So let me tell you, it was my VERY FIRST spicy/smutty romance book, in fact, I didn’t even know what the word smut meant until I read it. My friend just recommended it to me because she knew that I like fantasy and I like romance (like just a love line - like Arwen and Aragorn , like beauty and the beast… haha naive me) so I did NOT expect the level of spiciness that happened in those books lol.. anyway now I’m hooked. Book #6 can’t come fast enough. And btw, since you mentioned that level of spiciness in ACOTAT is kinda low, please feel free to share other books that surpass it!;)
Throne of glass was my entry into spicy books, but I still haven't read too many spicy books yet, but my want for romance is probably stronger because of Mass' works. 🤷🏻♀️
I decided I want to make a personal spice scale after reading it, for reference. I heard it was super spicy, and was afraid of it, read it, and thought "...that's really not as high on the pepper scale as I was expecting"
I’ve spent a lot of time reading romance, so when people started going off about ACOTAR being so spicy and freaking out about fairy p*rn, etc, I was honestly baffled and curious whether we had read the same book 😂🤦♀️ ACOSF is another thing entirely
I mean, in fairness, there's a bunch of Nesta's book that's just like SMUT SMUT SMUT and not doing anything for the plot, so like...I skipped all those sections too because it may be spicy but there's only so much variation to what can happen in smut and I'm not just here for the porn
I started it because I thought it was supposed to be super spicy 😂 I was disappointed in the volume and depth of spice but I stayed for the story haha ❤ I still love fantasy
For a second I thought ACOTAR was a food product and you thinking it was spicy and it not being spicy was you discovering a food allergy 😅
Exactly!! Samee😭
Same, I thought she thought she had a higher tolerance for some pepper and found out otherwise.
I knew it was a book, but I couldn’t have the love of me figure out why she called it that
I thought it was a character name from Game of Thrones for some reason
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Tbh, I've been so desensitised by fanfiction, that the only way to make me flustered is have them be fluffy and wholesome (like forehead kisses) 😅😂
Fanfiction really trains you and reminds you that the actual amount people are willing to write is rarely published by main stream romance.
Same. I've read fanfiction spicier than actual erotica😂😂
The fanfiction I found ruined me.
I can no longer see life the same way.
But yeah, nothing phases me anymore except fluff
It is forever a problem of fanfiction readers ✋️😔
It’s kind of good that fanfiction has desensitized me to actual smut, so the selling point for romance stories now would be the _actual romance_
There was a time on tiktok back in... idk sometime between 2021 and 2022, where fandom and booktok started overlapping on fyps, and, because of people talking about how "spicy" acotar was, a trend got started where people who frequent fandom soaces had to read some of the scenes out loud to a friend. Needless to say, a lot of us never even flinched... nor did the friends 😂
Explicit scenes in writing definitepy arent for everyone, but it is really funny to me how there is such a big difference in whats considered extreme between different types of reading nerds [affectionate].
Fanfic websites get absolutely wild, and I was on Tumblr before they banned NSFW content (or at least tried to). Some of the stuff booktok claims is spicy is kind of surprising to me.
I guess a lot of them are on the younger end, so it makes sense, but the comparison is very funny.
@@bishielurfer If I had to guess, in spaces like Ao3 where NSFW is allowed the spice scale starts at explicit sex and goes up the kinkier/more fucked up and taboo it is while on booktok the starting point is "the barest hint of romantic or sexual tension" and goes up the closer you get to explicit sex. So the ceiling for booktok is like the the floor for Ao3. Do I have it correct?
@RandomJayne You nailed it. If a fic says it has explicit sex than it has fully explicit sex. It just goes up from there!
I’m a longtime fanfic reader who is recently getting into romance novels, and the last one I read was pretty explicit, but faded to black right in the middle of what would have been a pretty key scene in a fanfiction. Fanfic readers would have revolted if a writer had posted that chapter with its porny cliff hanger, then the next chapter is just pillow talk the next morning. It was especially weird because plenty of other scenes didn’t fade to black.
There was a time in grad school where this indie author was handing out a bunch of copies of his book for free. There were some poorly disguised scenes that involved octopus arms and it became a game in my cohort to see how much you could read aloud before someone got visibly uncomfortable. My days of diving down fanfic rabbit holes paid off in spades. The only thing I cringed at was the terrible, clearly unedited writing.
I was told it was spicy, read it and went "That wasn't spicy at all! That was salt and pepper at best! Lucien was pretty sassy."
'Lucien was pretty sassy' 😂 Lucien was my favourite character for a good portion and then The Mysterious Stranger at Cal-En-My (audiobook reader I have no IDEA how that is spelt).
The Mystery Man is panning out I have to say 😏
vanilla extract at best 😂 it was 1 paragrph of vagueness
Lucien was providing all the chemistry honestly. I would not have gotten through that first book without him.
I remember thinking it had no spice when I began book 2 and asked my teacher if I could do my book report to it. He decided to pick a random section of it to read to confirm it was as tame as I said it was and flipped to one of the most *spicy* pages in the entire book. I then for years thought it can't get worse than this. I just got Kindle Unlimited, wish me luck.
Did he flip to the chapter 55/56 part of the book? Like, cabin, or illyrian camp?
@@applejuice565 the last spicy scene before the cabin, in the heat of it with my favorite line ever involving a table (if you know you know)
Sophomore year, 15 years of age, I did a book report on the 6th book of the Anita Blake series. First book I read in the series, Dance Macabre. Spicy is the word for the series considering the... Settings of the world. Great series.
oh my goodness I am so sorry for you (that is the worst possible thing that could happen)
You sure it was a random section 🤭
I totally get what you're saying!
Whenever I read books I get so uncomfortable with those scenes and what not so I try to just skim over it to catch important parts of the plot/story and not the... yeah
That's how I was when reading fourth wing and iron flame lol
Same here
Came here to say the same about ACOTAR and Fourth Wing. It's all about the fantasy and plot for me. I listen to the audio books and sometimes just hit the forward button once or twice.
If acotar is low spice then I refuse to read any more oml
I hate those scenes so much, it one pops up the whole series is immediately over. Doesn't exist anymore
@@kasi0034acotar has no plot 💀
i'm actually relieved when i hear people say they dont like spicy scenes-- because i personally hate writing them. I'm working on a story rn, and it keeps going back and forth in my head:
what age is this aimed at? to much violence and language for YA, not enough smutt for adult. characters are too young for adult, but it's too mature for YA... im in a gray area inbetween, but i don't want to go fully into adult territory because i HATE writing SMUT and i'd much rather focus on emotional relationships than write the physical stuff that feels like a cheap and shallow replacement for actual relationships to me.
I completely relate. Maybe if your book is neither YA or adult, it could fall under New Adult? It’s a relatively new genre to bridge the gap between YA and adult fiction
As someone who actively looking for Non-Spicy adult books, there is DEFINITLY a market for it. Just because it's adult does not mean it has to have spice. Honestly, i'd prefer if writers took the time to make their characters fall in love rather then fall in lust. But falling in lust is quicker then having actual character emotional growth.
When I was younger, I really enjoyed the explicit sex scenes. They were naughty and I felt somehow I was doing something exciting by reading them. As I've gotten older they've become boring. I would much rather read a well-written story of people whose emotions are growing. Realistically that pulls me in more than something that has a lot of arms and legs going everywhere. Sometimes a sex scene in a story can be very satisfying if It fills an emotional beat in the story.
There's a number of new adult writers that write books that are too mature for YA but are clean. I prefer books that actually focus on the relationship. Cuz that's what's gonna last. Hot lust ain't gonna get you far alone. So books that are just heat I drop. Without companionship development it won't last. No matter how much they are "mates"
As someone who writes, too, I would say you cen definitely include or exclude as much smutt as you want and still make it an adult book. To me, the level of smutt in an adult-oriented book would depend on what focus I want to give it.
If I want it to be explicit, it can go hard on both the darkness/violence and the smutt as one can be used as relief (for the characters and their mental states if it's a consensual pairaing), while the former builds the need for closeness and relief. If the focus is on the darker parts, and you want to highlight how the relief gained isn't enough, you could even have fade to black and work in how the stress keeps building for the characters and nothing is helping.
Rant over lol, sorry. Not sure if that helped or was unnecessary.
Me, reading YAOI and smut mangas: "What's a spice?"
My taste buds have been burned off from that lol. I don't even register like 80% of novel smut as spicy it's just sweet and refreshing at this point
😂😂 Chobits at 13 here
me growing up on tumblr and aO3 where the smut is literally 5k+ word chapters lmaooo
I get bothered when the story line continues through the spicy scene, it's harder to skip when you know you'll miss out on plot information!
Admittedly I might prefer that. I am that person who yells at the book "you two need to put your pants back on and figure the plot out."
You really can't win with spice, it seems. Some people complain because the spice seems too inessential, while others complain that it's not inessential enough and wish it could just be easily skipped altogether. Lol
Authors are actually taught to include plot elements in the spice to "justify" having explicit scenes.
@@pendlera2959 Ayes, if it's not somehow integral to story and/or character development, then it's not supposed to be included at all-unless you're writing smut only for smut's sake, which is when you start getting accusations of just being "p*rn"(if you weren't already simply for having any on-page s*x or steaminess present at all) and get screamed at and/or chased around with pitchforks about how there's no place for that in real literature or whatever, and you might sometimes even be told how even Erotica has more of an actual and/or better plot and writing than that or whatever. If you don't like s*x scenes yourself, that's fine, but it's kinda odd to me that anyone would expect that they should be able to skip anything if it's actually included in the final/published draft without being okay about probably missing some things. But to each their own, I guess.🤷🤷♀️🤷🏻♂️ 🙂 Lol
I hate when plot continues through the spice scenes because it feels so weird and unnatural! No one is discussing business while going for it... i'm like shut up 🤣
The first three books have so little spice that I wouldn’t even consider them to be within the spice category. They’re just adult romance. But there were no large sex scenes so hopefully you didn’t skip vital stuff 😂 The longest scene is in ACOMAF and it’s like maybe two pages. ACOSF is a whole different story though
wait... it gets spicy later? or in other books in the series ?
@@marig9236 Acosf was too much for me even though I like spicy books a lot. (I loved it regardless 👀)
@@nivi2107 bro i bought the whole series but I hate spice (I am just a huge fantasy fan) ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
After reading your comment i am scared to read the last books or start the series.
@@secretofbeings just get started. You can always skip the spice. Though in acosf you'll be skipping half the book. But still worth the read
@@secretofbeingsthe first 3 books are relatively low spice. 1-2 Spicy scenes a book and they only last a couple pages. The fifth book is very high spice. But the first three books were originally intended to be a trilogy. So if you aren't a fan of spice then you could easily stop there.
Ohhh boy as someone who's read Pamela Palmer and Nora Roberts books Acotar is nothing. But romance novels definitely arent for everyone you gotta find what you like. 😆
I'm rereading sign of seven from Nora Roberts and there's not as much snu snu as I remember but there is so much sexual build up and tension. She really committed to her romance and the paranormal story line so good too. Acotar while I enjoy the books so far the romance just seem to happen there's not a lot of tension or build up to them getting together it's just we belong together let's do it all the time! So I think that made it seem tame to me because I felt less invested in the romance. Just snu snu is great if that's what you want. But the tension and build up to the snu snu is what makes it more memorable. It gives Nora Roberts books some spicier spice imo! Lol 😆
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This is wild to me because imo, ACOTAR was nothing but sexual tension and build up for the first 2 books. Even when she was with Tamlin, there was sexual tension and build up happening between her and Rhys lol
Nora Roberts spicy? There's a built up of tension, but in the end I would normally rate her books a 2, or maybe 3 of spicyness...
Then again, I've read fanfiction that pretty much goes beyond 5 out of 5, so....😊
@@IlseMulAuthor Thank you! I've pretty much only read NR books, and wondered after seeing this were she lands in the spectrum of things.
What are some really spicy book recommendations?
girl where’d you get your earrings??? so cool!!!
I also need to know.
Omg I saw these today when u search “acotar jewelry” one of the ads were for these earrings!
What annoys me is, every person’s spice level rating is DIFFERENT and people act like it’s “meant” to be the same. People who call self proclaimed “low spice books” too spicy often get dissed hard by the book community and it’s like wtf? What may not be spicy for you may be spicy for someone else and that is OKAY. What isn’t okay is being judgemental.
It makes me think about how people are about food spice. People experience it at different levels and what's spicy to one person might be mild to another. But if someone has a low spice tolerance for any reason, including medical conditions, they're insulted and treated like there's something wrong with them.
We'd all be better off if most people could just acknowledge that we all experience the world differently and enjoy different things.
No for real. It's actually so funny. I come from a very spicy book side with mainly dark romance and trigger warnings left and right for books and started the acotar series super excited about the spicy scenes that are possible with the fantasy element (they're my first fantasy books) and was like "that's.. that's it? No way!" I even texted my friend and asked if they get more explicit down the road 😂
Oh good lord
Yeah, I don’t know why some people think that ACOTAR is just filled with smut, only the last book in the series has multiple explicit scenes, the main 3 are quite tame.
@@Sh4d0w_L1ckerI think it's the mentality of the characters. For those of us who don't actually think about sex ALL the time, it's uncomfortable to read about a couple who really aren't interested in anything else in their relationship. They may not 'do it' until well in, but it's clear from the start and all the way through that to Rhysand, Feyre is just a sex toy he will play with when he gets around to it; there's no appreciation for or even DEVELOPMENT of her personality.
@@cmm5542 I couldn’t disagree more, did you actually read the whole series? But anyways, why are you reading fantasy romance if you don’t like reading about romance? Just read fantasy without romance if you’re not into it. You’re reading romance then complain that the characters are romantically involved.
@@cmm5542Just sounds like a you problem. You know most people don't think about sex all the time but don't feel uncomfortable reading about sex. If you don't like it, don't read romance. It's also pretty obvious you haven't read the books or chose to severely misunderstand it, probably because of your own bias.
I get you im not really into spice either but i really like the fantasy genre it always just has the best plots. I also noticed that spicy scenes has actually increased in the fantasy genre specifically so yeah its difficult to find a good fantasy read these days
As I started with Yaoi, Hentai, smut fanfics in the old days, I definitely can say: we are surprised if the story has a plot! 😂
Acotar is pretty low spice, true. But if what you’re expecting is NO spice, the sucker punch effect makes it feel super spicy
Everyone has different spice levels. There is no shame in that
Romantasy isn't my favorite style, but when I do read it I always skim those scenes. I don’t mind them at all and they don’t hinder my enjoyment overall but they're definitely not for me.
That was the case for ACOTAR and more recently for Fourth Wing and Iron Flame. Although with those I had to be careful because sometimes the protagonist would actually have plot relevant magical developments in the middle of spicy stuff or even get interrupted by an attack and if I wasn't careful skimming suddenly I would be like "wait wait are they screaming because they're about to climax or about to get unalived"😂
My God, I thought the same thing. The authors other series, throne of glass, just got progressively more and more spicy to the point I'd just skim through those sections.
The funny thing is, I'd rate the ToG series as the lowest level spicy, ACoTaR as medium spicy, and CC as the most spicy of her series 😂😂
I just had an entire conversation last month, inspired by the San Andreas Shifters series by Gail Carriger, about how there's really no good objective rating for spice anymore. To me that was a hefty amount of spice but a lot of people considered it low spice. Which makes it really hard to ask for recommendations when you don't know if the person you're asking is using the same scale as you.
Harlequin Romance actually has a spicy rating for their book lines and I kind of wish everyone had one.
As an allosexual person with a few asexual friends, I'm now the "pre-reader" telling them what pages they can skip and what the spice level is. I'm not a huge fan of erotica bits and also just want them to get back to the story, because there's a time and place for me and the middle of a battle is not it, but now I feel like it's my job to push through.
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I think there’s a slight different to spicy and pure smut, where spicy you can still enjoy the story telling and then have that added bonus and the spicy chapters, but with smut I just feel there’s no actual story you’re really just there for the role play s*x hahaha
That’s called erotica
Role play sex in books isn’t a thing unless it’s specifically talking about bdsm or something. That’s just the couple dynamic. They’re not all healthy. So people should read with discernment
And erotica is indeed a genre and a valid one
I like romance, I don't like spice. So I end up skipping spicy sections.
Some of the comments here just show how unempathetic some people can be 🙄 Like you didn’t say it was bad, just that spicy content isn’t for you amd didn’t judge anyone! Like I‘ve recently finished fourth wing and I also skipped some pages in that book, because I just find sex scenes absolutely boring and it was sometimes insufferable to me how horny they were about each other… Like I new that it would have spicy content because it is labeled as such, so I don‘t mind it at all, and I‘d still give the book 4 out of 5 stars because I loved the characters interactions with each other.
Finally someone who doesn’t like spice. I need book recommendations!! Please and thank you
Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind spice, but it has to be well written, make sense for the plot, and not over do it. Once it’s all they can do/think about I start skipping cause it gets sooo boring, and don’t get me started on the stupid word choices, ie throbbing member immediate ick
Also on team 'most sex scenes are boring'. Like, I love flirting and buildup, but most descriptions of two people having sex make my eyes glaze over
@@bamagirlce12Yep, as an old-fashioned religious person I expected to be shocked when I sort-of-accidentally discovered fanfiction. The only thing that DID shock me was the glamourizing of abuse - with most normal sex scenes I was like 'THIS is what all the fuss is about? Spare me; I'm going back to the PLOT!' 😂
@@bamagirlce12 No bc same. It doesn't make or break a story for me, but sex scenes are soooo bland, boring and stale. Love the build up of the relationship, the flirting and the banter and the characters slowly getting closer, but I find the writing 99% takes a nosedive whenever sexytimes come up.
And it's not bc it's vanilla or anything like that that makes my eyes start seeing through the pages whenever a sex scene happens, no no no, even if it's all hardcore or whatever, it still has me snoring, so I _know_ it's the writing.
Not only that, but the writing _post_ sex scenes also tends to become worse in general, bc the writers get lazy with the characters and their dynamics and almost always fall back into making them satellites with no other thing going on in their mind than each other.
once you've tried to read Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty series, your bar for what is considered "super spicy" drastically rises 😅
I feel the need to clarify - this isn't a challenge by any means, moreso "thinking aloud" for myself. if someone finds ACOTAR super spicy, or feels like OP period and feeling uncomfortable about that sorta thing, I actually heavily recommend AGAINST trying the Beauty series because it'll prob be extremely uncomfortable for you and there's no reason to make yourself uncomfortable. the book isn't so necessary that you need to even try unless you WANT that sort of content
I think I've seen a bit of Anne Rice's SB series, and I'm like, wow...I love my spice, but I think AR has beyond my own comfortability range...I think. I'd have to take a trip to Books-a-Million or B&N to try and re-read it. It's been a while.
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@@a.katherinesuetterlin3028Anne rice wrote erotica. People need to start looking at genre again and not just mixing everything under the label spice
That’s an erotica series vs a fantasy romance with sexual elements. Subgenre matters so people don’t shame books for them not knowing what they getting into when the information is free
Yeah I’m with you; I read them when I was…15-16 I think? Way too young imo to be reading anything like that (not that it’s something I want to read at all); honestly I thought it was on the high end too. I’m actually really glad you made this video because now I know to be super careful about what fantasy romance I read 😂
I feel the same way! Fortunately I prefer historical romance to fantasy . . . actually I've been blindsided by the ratings of some of that . . .
Lol yeah I read the entire throne of glass series (which thankfully is much less spicy than acotar) when I was 11, I didn’t understand any of the… yknow but loved the story, then i reread it again when I was 15 and was like “omg how did I read this at 11” then I proceeded to read acotar lmao
Yeah after reading ‘the claiming of sleeping beauty’ by Anne Rice as a kid nothing really seems that spicy to me, especially ACOTAR lol. I was 13 😅
I think Pride and Prejudice along with The Night Circus are the romance books I enjoyed the most, and I’m still not finished with The Night Circus but it’s so hauntingly beautiful, and I recommend Pride and Prejudice to be among your first reads totally worth it unlike the movie though…. I love your shorts to the point where I’ll stay in RUclips way much more longer than I intended to if I clicked on one of your shorts♥️
People talking about spice and me still riding a Dune 2 high is like ohh… that means something different lol
It has enough spice to keep me happy. Rhys… I Can’t explain how much I love him 😂❤
Im like the opposite. As someone currently writing a fantasy romance book, I think it’s not too spicy but when most people see it they just go “OH MY GOD”
You mean writing? Or fighting...
@@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3093 writing, I spelt it wrong 😭
I love your earrings! 😍
I wish someone could print books like ACOTAR without the spicy scenes. I'm really uncomfortable with reading anything smut but I really wanna be able to read popular books cuz I have fomo. Until then I'm ok with missing out
Unfortunately, there are VERY few books without sex scenes (or a 'fade to black' kind of scene) that are mainstream. Sex Sells, unfortunately. This is why branching out of mainstream is always a great choice.
@@GummyDinosaursifyI've honestly just avoided romance as a whole. Its just easier at this point plus my fav genres don't really align with romance sub plots so I'm in the clear.
I've watched this video so many times because I relate to this so much but rn I just really really want her earrings
I didn't realize just how spicy the stuff I was reading was until I read Silver Flames and considered it fairly tame...
There is literally just one sex scene (and a half at the end)...soooo...skipping huge sections was not really necessary, was it? :'D
That’s only the first book… they get dramatically more spicy the more books you read
Sure, but the video was specifically about ACOTAR and she says she had to skip "huge sections" because of the smut...which...is a bit misleading.
Granted the following books do contain more spicy content.
Yeah... I hope she didn't try to read Silver Flames 😂🤣
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I guess she is referring to the series as a whole since she said huge sections, because usually if you talk about the whole series you call it acotar or a court of thorns and roses, so it can be a bit misleading when it's also the name of the first book.
What do you call the full series?
I found out that is was semi spicy and gave it to my friend. I hate spice in books even the small things.. which is odd as if it’s a webcomic I read high levels of spice. I’m thinking of doing an experiment on my insanity and reading a book with non straight spice.
Gosh when people told me that ACOTAR was spicy and then I read it?... If someone thinks that's spicy they eould be utterly scandalized by what I read.
Me too. I enjoy the tamer stuff too, it's fun, but ACOTAR is like the bell pepper of my spice range.
What do you read? I would LOVE spicy recommendations!
@@AB-zr8pu haha I know exactly what you mean! Season for everything, even if I do tend to lean towards the spice.
Right now I'm reading the temple brothers and it's sorta medium spice, if that.
But very wholesome.
@@alinab6571 ooh geez! There's such a range! I go through books like fairy floss! What's your vibe? You like the HEAs? The Dark Romance? Books that make you cry? There's so many different styles within that as well. I could go on 😅
But right now I'm reading the temple brothers, medium spicyish but very wholesome.
As an ao3 *veteran* (god the things I’ve read), and writer that focuses a lot on spice and erotica, honestly, it seems like a lot because the first three books were marketed as YA. And also we for some reason feel the need to shower everything in smut, is it just me or does it feel like the amount of smut has drastically risen? It’s like people can’t go for two seconds without some sort of pornography. It’s kind of ironic as someone who writes a lot of erotica, to just despise how it’s like everywhere now. Some days I just want to read about wizards, dragons, and such. That stuff in romantasy is usually super unnecessary and super cringe.
I feel you. I managed to read and enjoyed the first ones... A court of Silver Flames though? Never finished it 😅😅😅😅
my level of spice tolerance differs by the day. some days i want it all and other days i'm skipping sections lol
It’s so funny hearing someone pronounce comfortable the way it’s spelled, rather than “comfturble” haha
I get goosebumps when characters in pern kiss, spicy books are still way beyond my comfort 😅
i literally clicked on this recommendation because i did want to hear something funny because i just saw a very sad or bittersweet short. so thanks❣️
I used to read erotics, not because I was crazy about them, I was interested in how you can portrait romance and closure in many different ways. I planned on writing my own book one day and I read all the genres I had problems with. And now when I see books like acotar my brain is happy. I'm resting from that trauma that erotics were 😅
Ok but, I love this earrings-
Totally agree i dont like reading smut it makes me uncomfortable. The only kind i actually like is the shatter me one.
I never realized how many people get uncomfortable with reading "spicy” parts of a book. I don’t get why though.
Because, those details aren't important to the storyline. The planned sex scenes in every chapter are too predictable, it feels like porn. I feel like it takes away from the intimacy of the couple. Sex sells I guess.
You're definitely not still taking about acotar, there was 1 scene with a whole lot of buildup.
This is like saying you don't understand why people don't pineapple on pizza. It's just a preference. You like smut, other people don't.
For me, it’s because I’m ace and I love romance but spice is just repulsive to me.
I'm late to the party but here is my two cents. Personally, I'm not uncomfortable with the spice per se. It's more to do with the fact that most writes have no clue how to write smutty scenes or the build up to the moment well.
I recently bought the entire 5 book set of Acotar. I'll read it after my exams...
Bro same i bought it 4 days ago and will read it after my finals 😂
I am IN LOVE with those earrings
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ALSO SKIPS THOSE CHAPTERS
Recommendations please. Can you make a list of top ten spicy books, top ten historical fantasy? And so on? I have no clue what to read next
Having read the Kushiel's Legacy series by Jacqueline Carey, most recommendations from booktok have been mild spice at best. (TW: Kushiel's Dart includes a lot of bdsm throughout, and r*pe in the middle section.)
Acotar was my starter series for fantasy/any romance genre.
Same girl same the last book almost killed me
I was told it was spicy and was sorely disappointed with the spice level
Well acosf is definitely higher in spice but it definitely doesn’t compare to some of the stuff I picked up and quickly put down. If you can’t make it through the first chapter without adding spice, we have a problem. Or at least I do. I know some people enjoy spicier books but there’s an extent.
I rarely don't like smut scenes in romantasy, I'm fine with it, but ACOSF made me feel super weird tbh. Mostly bc it felt so forced to me and there was no real build-up that led to the explosion of smut after 200 pages of barely any plot at all. Never thought I'd say that, but as a reader I need a little bit of foreplay 😭
Did that once. Skipped spicy scenes of a book *cough fanfiction cough* I was reading. Then cam back a few months later and read it in its entirety
Here’s something even funnier. I am not a fan of “spice.” I’m not a prude, it’s just that if I’m in a spicy mood, I want to go do something spicy, not read or watch. That’s boring to me. I am a huge fan of ToG and the first 5 books had the perfect amount of romance content for me. An engaging romantic subplot that never got explicit and didn’t take up too much of the page relative to the action. Then I started reading ACOTAR when ToG was only partially finished and was shocked and a bit put off by the level of romance and spice content. Then I read Empire of Storms and thought that the spice level would be the same as the rest of the books in ToG, only to get smacked in the face with “velvet wrapped steal.” 😳😑 WHY?!
YES, I totally agree, I was not prepared for this book as a preteen😭
Same! I mostly read WW2 historical fiction and memoirs of people who had horrible life experiences so I got a bit of a shock 🙈
The sections you skip are my favourite parts 👁️👄👁️
Those LOTR earrings are awesome
I can only see half that shirt. But I love it and want it
Honestly Scarlet St. Clair does smut a lot better. Her characters are full, her plots make sense, and consent matters. All things that cannot be said for ACOTAR imo.
Love the Andúril earings!
Being on the low end of the spice spectrum was one of the things I liked about acotar. 😂
If you weren’t comfortable with the spice level, then it certainly was too spicy. People’s perceptions can differ greatly, so it’s always best to just listen to yourself and don’t force it. Skipping spice in favor of the story is not the worst thing to do. :3
It contains like 2 deeply boring nearly fade-to-black sex scenes. I'm astonished by the people who try to sell it to others as like, faerie porn.
My husband read Fourth Wing and could not handle the graphic... spice. Was way beyond anything he had ever encountered in a book. The look on his face when I explained that it seemed pretty clean to me, compared to what I generally read in fantasy. 😂
I told him it's like when we go to a certain Asian restaurant nearby that has a 1-5 spice scale, but also an off-menu 0 that we call "white girl" (that's what I order). ACOTAR is that. 😂😂
Lol I feel that. It starts off so mild but as the books go on more spice gets piled on
Reading through the comments has been genuinely a learning experience.
Honestly I was so disappointed when I started book 1, I forget just how spicy I read now 😅
ACOSF raised the bar much higher than first three books on level of spicy…
Me reading ACOTAR as a man: "oh wait, I'm supposed to do that?"
Your earrings are sooooo cute❤
Then BOY am I the most spice intolerant person on the planet. But Proper Romances are out there for all us spice-intolerant people!
Even Silver Flames is tame compared to something like Legacy of the Nine Realms series.
The spiciest book i have says, "It was awesome." And that is all the detail it gives. I appreciate that in a military focused space opera.
Completely unrelated but oh my gosh I love that shirt so much. Also, good to know about ACOTAR? I think?
Court of The Vampire Queen is VERY spicy, like it’s all spice. For anyone wondering, well worth the read just be prepared!!
Laurel K Hamilton- Anita Blake series and Meredith Gentry series - spicy 🌶️
See the reason I stopped reading Anita Blake wasn't the spice, it's because it felt like it started with a plot and then felt like it turned into PwP, and worse I didn't like the character direction. Whereas Meredith Gentry I had no problem with because it didn't feel like a bait and switch (I fully admit that my expectations for Anita Blake might have been working against me). Genuinely curious where other people rank the spice level of these.
I love those earrings and need to make a pair like them!
Those sword earrings are cool
So let me tell you, it was my VERY FIRST spicy/smutty romance book, in fact, I didn’t even know what the word smut meant until I read it.
My friend just recommended it to me because she knew that I like fantasy and I like romance (like just a love line - like Arwen and Aragorn , like beauty and the beast… haha naive me) so I did NOT expect the level of spiciness that happened in those books lol.. anyway now I’m hooked. Book #6 can’t come fast enough.
And btw, since you mentioned that level of spiciness in ACOTAT is kinda low, please feel free to share other books that surpass it!;)
Throne of glass was my entry into spicy books, but I still haven't read too many spicy books yet, but my want for romance is probably stronger because of Mass' works. 🤷🏻♀️
I decided I want to make a personal spice scale after reading it, for reference. I heard it was super spicy, and was afraid of it, read it, and thought "...that's really not as high on the pepper scale as I was expecting"
It gets spicer as the series goes on but still only low to mid spice by the end
I’ve spent a lot of time reading romance, so when people started going off about ACOTAR being so spicy and freaking out about fairy p*rn, etc, I was honestly baffled and curious whether we had read the same book 😂🤦♀️ ACOSF is another thing entirely
I couldn't believe how spicy Fourth Wing was. After that ACOTAR is so tame
I mean, in fairness, there's a bunch of Nesta's book that's just like SMUT SMUT SMUT and not doing anything for the plot, so like...I skipped all those sections too because it may be spicy but there's only so much variation to what can happen in smut and I'm not just here for the porn
Girl where’d you get those earrings they look amazing ❤
Lol, I really want to see your shirt for some reason - I have this feeling like it's really cool, but just out of shot!
I started it because I thought it was supposed to be super spicy 😂 I was disappointed in the volume and depth of spice but I stayed for the story haha ❤ I still love fantasy
SAME!! Thank you for stating this. My thoughts exactly - I had to skip a lot too 😂
Here I am, never reading romance so far but making a looong list based off books you mention in your shorts.