A COURT OF THORNS AND ROSES isn't spicy, apparently

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @bhelm847
    @bhelm847 10 месяцев назад +3212

    For a second I thought ACOTAR was a food product and you thinking it was spicy and it not being spicy was you discovering a food allergy 😅

    • @sargunkauroberoi1280
      @sargunkauroberoi1280 9 месяцев назад +23

      Exactly!! Samee😭

    • @Wesmin
      @Wesmin 8 месяцев назад +14

      Same, I thought she thought she had a higher tolerance for some pepper and found out otherwise.

    • @AstaGruwier-vi5ht
      @AstaGruwier-vi5ht 7 месяцев назад +6

      I knew it was a book, but I couldn’t have the love of me figure out why she called it that

    • @alonbinyamin
      @alonbinyamin 6 месяцев назад +4

      I thought it was a character name from Game of Thrones for some reason

    • @AnimateTheArts
      @AnimateTheArts 6 месяцев назад

      Lmaooo

  • @narutogirly101
    @narutogirly101 9 месяцев назад +1854

    Raise your hand if you want to steal those earrings cause they are super cute

  • @erinbathie-moore8478
    @erinbathie-moore8478 4 месяца назад +460

    Tbh, I've been so desensitised by fanfiction, that the only way to make me flustered is have them be fluffy and wholesome (like forehead kisses) 😅😂

    • @bboops23
      @bboops23 2 месяца назад +36

      Fanfiction really trains you and reminds you that the actual amount people are willing to write is rarely published by main stream romance.

    • @parinikasharma317
      @parinikasharma317 Месяц назад +12

      Same. I've read fanfiction spicier than actual erotica😂😂

    • @MenialTasksAF
      @MenialTasksAF Месяц назад +8

      The fanfiction I found ruined me.
      I can no longer see life the same way.
      But yeah, nothing phases me anymore except fluff
      It is forever a problem of fanfiction readers ✋️😔

    • @KeitieKalopsia
      @KeitieKalopsia 12 дней назад +5

      It’s kind of good that fanfiction has desensitized me to actual smut, so the selling point for romance stories now would be the _actual romance_

  • @laurdesz9050
    @laurdesz9050 9 месяцев назад +1454

    There was a time on tiktok back in... idk sometime between 2021 and 2022, where fandom and booktok started overlapping on fyps, and, because of people talking about how "spicy" acotar was, a trend got started where people who frequent fandom soaces had to read some of the scenes out loud to a friend. Needless to say, a lot of us never even flinched... nor did the friends 😂
    Explicit scenes in writing definitepy arent for everyone, but it is really funny to me how there is such a big difference in whats considered extreme between different types of reading nerds [affectionate].

    • @bishielurfer
      @bishielurfer 8 месяцев назад +83

      Fanfic websites get absolutely wild, and I was on Tumblr before they banned NSFW content (or at least tried to). Some of the stuff booktok claims is spicy is kind of surprising to me.
      I guess a lot of them are on the younger end, so it makes sense, but the comparison is very funny.

    • @RandomJayne
      @RandomJayne 8 месяцев назад +116

      @@bishielurfer If I had to guess, in spaces like Ao3 where NSFW is allowed the spice scale starts at explicit sex and goes up the kinkier/more fucked up and taboo it is while on booktok the starting point is "the barest hint of romantic or sexual tension" and goes up the closer you get to explicit sex. So the ceiling for booktok is like the the floor for Ao3. Do I have it correct?

    • @Katy_night
      @Katy_night 8 месяцев назад +37

      ​@RandomJayne You nailed it. If a fic says it has explicit sex than it has fully explicit sex. It just goes up from there!

    • @violetsnotroses3640
      @violetsnotroses3640 8 месяцев назад +42

      I’m a longtime fanfic reader who is recently getting into romance novels, and the last one I read was pretty explicit, but faded to black right in the middle of what would have been a pretty key scene in a fanfiction. Fanfic readers would have revolted if a writer had posted that chapter with its porny cliff hanger, then the next chapter is just pillow talk the next morning. It was especially weird because plenty of other scenes didn’t fade to black.

    • @nopesiedaisy
      @nopesiedaisy 8 месяцев назад +25

      There was a time in grad school where this indie author was handing out a bunch of copies of his book for free. There were some poorly disguised scenes that involved octopus arms and it became a game in my cohort to see how much you could read aloud before someone got visibly uncomfortable. My days of diving down fanfic rabbit holes paid off in spades. The only thing I cringed at was the terrible, clearly unedited writing.

  • @vanessar.6085
    @vanessar.6085 8 месяцев назад +460

    I was told it was spicy, read it and went "That wasn't spicy at all! That was salt and pepper at best! Lucien was pretty sassy."

    • @piecesofstarlight
      @piecesofstarlight 6 месяцев назад +29

      'Lucien was pretty sassy' 😂 Lucien was my favourite character for a good portion and then The Mysterious Stranger at Cal-En-My (audiobook reader I have no IDEA how that is spelt).
      The Mystery Man is panning out I have to say 😏

    • @blah914
      @blah914 3 месяца назад +11

      vanilla extract at best 😂 it was 1 paragrph of vagueness

    • @dezs.5202
      @dezs.5202 3 месяца назад +14

      Lucien was providing all the chemistry honestly. I would not have gotten through that first book without him.

  • @blazinbethpheonixgirl294
    @blazinbethpheonixgirl294 9 месяцев назад +541

    I remember thinking it had no spice when I began book 2 and asked my teacher if I could do my book report to it. He decided to pick a random section of it to read to confirm it was as tame as I said it was and flipped to one of the most *spicy* pages in the entire book. I then for years thought it can't get worse than this. I just got Kindle Unlimited, wish me luck.

    • @applejuice565
      @applejuice565 8 месяцев назад +24

      Did he flip to the chapter 55/56 part of the book? Like, cabin, or illyrian camp?

    • @blazinbethpheonixgirl294
      @blazinbethpheonixgirl294 8 месяцев назад +35

      @@applejuice565 the last spicy scene before the cabin, in the heat of it with my favorite line ever involving a table (if you know you know)

    • @joseluisgarcia4763
      @joseluisgarcia4763 8 месяцев назад +15

      Sophomore year, 15 years of age, I did a book report on the 6th book of the Anita Blake series. First book I read in the series, Dance Macabre. Spicy is the word for the series considering the... Settings of the world. Great series.

    • @jazzfuquay
      @jazzfuquay 7 месяцев назад +11

      oh my goodness I am so sorry for you (that is the worst possible thing that could happen)

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 5 месяцев назад +8

      You sure it was a random section 🤭

  • @itz_genesis1748
    @itz_genesis1748 11 месяцев назад +473

    I totally get what you're saying!
    Whenever I read books I get so uncomfortable with those scenes and what not so I try to just skim over it to catch important parts of the plot/story and not the... yeah

    • @daughter_OFathena13
      @daughter_OFathena13 9 месяцев назад +11

      That's how I was when reading fourth wing and iron flame lol

    • @eternity3113
      @eternity3113 8 месяцев назад +1

      Same here

    • @kasi0034
      @kasi0034 8 месяцев назад +10

      Came here to say the same about ACOTAR and Fourth Wing. It's all about the fantasy and plot for me. I listen to the audio books and sometimes just hit the forward button once or twice.

    • @waffleaffle231
      @waffleaffle231 7 месяцев назад +8

      If acotar is low spice then I refuse to read any more oml
      I hate those scenes so much, it one pops up the whole series is immediately over. Doesn't exist anymore

    • @naveerarizwan5329
      @naveerarizwan5329 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@kasi0034acotar has no plot 💀

  • @mouhitorinoboku9655
    @mouhitorinoboku9655 9 месяцев назад +97

    i'm actually relieved when i hear people say they dont like spicy scenes-- because i personally hate writing them. I'm working on a story rn, and it keeps going back and forth in my head:
    what age is this aimed at? to much violence and language for YA, not enough smutt for adult. characters are too young for adult, but it's too mature for YA... im in a gray area inbetween, but i don't want to go fully into adult territory because i HATE writing SMUT and i'd much rather focus on emotional relationships than write the physical stuff that feels like a cheap and shallow replacement for actual relationships to me.

    • @rissjohnson3308
      @rissjohnson3308 8 месяцев назад +24

      I completely relate. Maybe if your book is neither YA or adult, it could fall under New Adult? It’s a relatively new genre to bridge the gap between YA and adult fiction

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 8 месяцев назад +58

      As someone who actively looking for Non-Spicy adult books, there is DEFINITLY a market for it. Just because it's adult does not mean it has to have spice. Honestly, i'd prefer if writers took the time to make their characters fall in love rather then fall in lust. But falling in lust is quicker then having actual character emotional growth.

    • @Tarotiste
      @Tarotiste 7 месяцев назад +28

      When I was younger, I really enjoyed the explicit sex scenes. They were naughty and I felt somehow I was doing something exciting by reading them. As I've gotten older they've become boring. I would much rather read a well-written story of people whose emotions are growing. Realistically that pulls me in more than something that has a lot of arms and legs going everywhere. Sometimes a sex scene in a story can be very satisfying if It fills an emotional beat in the story.

    • @caitlynlawrence8502
      @caitlynlawrence8502 7 месяцев назад +18

      There's a number of new adult writers that write books that are too mature for YA but are clean. I prefer books that actually focus on the relationship. Cuz that's what's gonna last. Hot lust ain't gonna get you far alone. So books that are just heat I drop. Without companionship development it won't last. No matter how much they are "mates"

    • @Eyrenni
      @Eyrenni 6 месяцев назад +6

      As someone who writes, too, I would say you cen definitely include or exclude as much smutt as you want and still make it an adult book. To me, the level of smutt in an adult-oriented book would depend on what focus I want to give it.
      If I want it to be explicit, it can go hard on both the darkness/violence and the smutt as one can be used as relief (for the characters and their mental states if it's a consensual pairaing), while the former builds the need for closeness and relief. If the focus is on the darker parts, and you want to highlight how the relief gained isn't enough, you could even have fade to black and work in how the stress keeps building for the characters and nothing is helping.
      Rant over lol, sorry. Not sure if that helped or was unnecessary.

  • @Theturtleowl
    @Theturtleowl 7 месяцев назад +191

    Me, reading YAOI and smut mangas: "What's a spice?"

    • @internationalqueen3691
      @internationalqueen3691 3 месяца назад +15

      My taste buds have been burned off from that lol. I don't even register like 80% of novel smut as spicy it's just sweet and refreshing at this point

    • @alwaysyouramanda
      @alwaysyouramanda Месяц назад +2

      😂😂 Chobits at 13 here

  • @kweeniepiez
    @kweeniepiez 6 месяцев назад +31

    me growing up on tumblr and aO3 where the smut is literally 5k+ word chapters lmaooo

  • @JessicasCreativeSpot
    @JessicasCreativeSpot 4 месяца назад +119

    I get bothered when the story line continues through the spicy scene, it's harder to skip when you know you'll miss out on plot information!

    • @Estarile
      @Estarile 4 месяца назад +22

      Admittedly I might prefer that. I am that person who yells at the book "you two need to put your pants back on and figure the plot out."

    • @jaginaiaelectrizs6341
      @jaginaiaelectrizs6341 4 месяца назад +11

      You really can't win with spice, it seems. Some people complain because the spice seems too inessential, while others complain that it's not inessential enough and wish it could just be easily skipped altogether. Lol

    • @pendlera2959
      @pendlera2959 4 месяца назад +11

      Authors are actually taught to include plot elements in the spice to "justify" having explicit scenes.

    • @jaginaiaelectrizs6341
      @jaginaiaelectrizs6341 4 месяца назад

      @@pendlera2959 Ayes, if it's not somehow integral to story and/or character development, then it's not supposed to be included at all-unless you're writing smut only for smut's sake, which is when you start getting accusations of just being "p*rn"(if you weren't already simply for having any on-page s*x or steaminess present at all) and get screamed at and/or chased around with pitchforks about how there's no place for that in real literature or whatever, and you might sometimes even be told how even Erotica has more of an actual and/or better plot and writing than that or whatever. If you don't like s*x scenes yourself, that's fine, but it's kinda odd to me that anyone would expect that they should be able to skip anything if it's actually included in the final/published draft without being okay about probably missing some things. But to each their own, I guess.🤷🤷‍♀️🤷🏻‍♂️ 🙂 Lol

    • @EnileReb
      @EnileReb 4 месяца назад +10

      I hate when plot continues through the spice scenes because it feels so weird and unnatural! No one is discussing business while going for it... i'm like shut up 🤣

  • @Pastel00Peach
    @Pastel00Peach 11 месяцев назад +166

    The first three books have so little spice that I wouldn’t even consider them to be within the spice category. They’re just adult romance. But there were no large sex scenes so hopefully you didn’t skip vital stuff 😂 The longest scene is in ACOMAF and it’s like maybe two pages. ACOSF is a whole different story though

    • @marig9236
      @marig9236 9 месяцев назад +4

      wait... it gets spicy later? or in other books in the series ?

    • @nivi2107
      @nivi2107 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@marig9236 Acosf was too much for me even though I like spicy books a lot. (I loved it regardless 👀)

    • @secretofbeings
      @secretofbeings 8 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@nivi2107 bro i bought the whole series but I hate spice (I am just a huge fantasy fan) ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ
      After reading your comment i am scared to read the last books or start the series.

    • @nivi2107
      @nivi2107 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@secretofbeings just get started. You can always skip the spice. Though in acosf you'll be skipping half the book. But still worth the read

    • @Sallieface
      @Sallieface 6 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@secretofbeingsthe first 3 books are relatively low spice. 1-2 Spicy scenes a book and they only last a couple pages. The fifth book is very high spice. But the first three books were originally intended to be a trilogy. So if you aren't a fan of spice then you could easily stop there.

  • @Nioriel26
    @Nioriel26 11 месяцев назад +174

    Ohhh boy as someone who's read Pamela Palmer and Nora Roberts books Acotar is nothing. But romance novels definitely arent for everyone you gotta find what you like. 😆

    • @Nioriel26
      @Nioriel26 9 месяцев назад +11

      I'm rereading sign of seven from Nora Roberts and there's not as much snu snu as I remember but there is so much sexual build up and tension. She really committed to her romance and the paranormal story line so good too. Acotar while I enjoy the books so far the romance just seem to happen there's not a lot of tension or build up to them getting together it's just we belong together let's do it all the time! So I think that made it seem tame to me because I felt less invested in the romance. Just snu snu is great if that's what you want. But the tension and build up to the snu snu is what makes it more memorable. It gives Nora Roberts books some spicier spice imo! Lol 😆

    • @zknight4481
      @zknight4481 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@Nioriel26
      This is wild to me because imo, ACOTAR was nothing but sexual tension and build up for the first 2 books. Even when she was with Tamlin, there was sexual tension and build up happening between her and Rhys lol

    • @IlseMulAuthor
      @IlseMulAuthor 8 месяцев назад +4

      Nora Roberts spicy? There's a built up of tension, but in the end I would normally rate her books a 2, or maybe 3 of spicyness...
      Then again, I've read fanfiction that pretty much goes beyond 5 out of 5, so....😊

    • @Miss_Myth
      @Miss_Myth 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@IlseMulAuthor Thank you! I've pretty much only read NR books, and wondered after seeing this were she lands in the spectrum of things.

    • @herethere65
      @herethere65 4 месяца назад +2

      What are some really spicy book recommendations?

  • @forestenrory
    @forestenrory 11 месяцев назад +165

    girl where’d you get your earrings??? so cool!!!

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 6 месяцев назад +1

      I also need to know.

    • @kawnah3519
      @kawnah3519 5 месяцев назад

      Omg I saw these today when u search “acotar jewelry” one of the ads were for these earrings!

  • @RowanWolf22
    @RowanWolf22 8 месяцев назад +72

    What annoys me is, every person’s spice level rating is DIFFERENT and people act like it’s “meant” to be the same. People who call self proclaimed “low spice books” too spicy often get dissed hard by the book community and it’s like wtf? What may not be spicy for you may be spicy for someone else and that is OKAY. What isn’t okay is being judgemental.

    • @feistsorcerer2251
      @feistsorcerer2251 3 месяца назад +4

      It makes me think about how people are about food spice. People experience it at different levels and what's spicy to one person might be mild to another. But if someone has a low spice tolerance for any reason, including medical conditions, they're insulted and treated like there's something wrong with them.
      We'd all be better off if most people could just acknowledge that we all experience the world differently and enjoy different things.

  • @anjab-1769
    @anjab-1769 11 месяцев назад +45

    No for real. It's actually so funny. I come from a very spicy book side with mainly dark romance and trigger warnings left and right for books and started the acotar series super excited about the spicy scenes that are possible with the fantasy element (they're my first fantasy books) and was like "that's.. that's it? No way!" I even texted my friend and asked if they get more explicit down the road 😂

    • @Yt-wc4jd
      @Yt-wc4jd 10 месяцев назад +1

      Oh good lord

    • @Sh4d0w_L1cker
      @Sh4d0w_L1cker 10 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah, I don’t know why some people think that ACOTAR is just filled with smut, only the last book in the series has multiple explicit scenes, the main 3 are quite tame.

    • @cmm5542
      @cmm5542 10 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@Sh4d0w_L1ckerI think it's the mentality of the characters. For those of us who don't actually think about sex ALL the time, it's uncomfortable to read about a couple who really aren't interested in anything else in their relationship. They may not 'do it' until well in, but it's clear from the start and all the way through that to Rhysand, Feyre is just a sex toy he will play with when he gets around to it; there's no appreciation for or even DEVELOPMENT of her personality.

    • @Sh4d0w_L1cker
      @Sh4d0w_L1cker 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@cmm5542 I couldn’t disagree more, did you actually read the whole series? But anyways, why are you reading fantasy romance if you don’t like reading about romance? Just read fantasy without romance if you’re not into it. You’re reading romance then complain that the characters are romantically involved.

    • @xelenaxyz
      @xelenaxyz 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@cmm5542Just sounds like a you problem. You know most people don't think about sex all the time but don't feel uncomfortable reading about sex. If you don't like it, don't read romance. It's also pretty obvious you haven't read the books or chose to severely misunderstand it, probably because of your own bias.

  • @inaskulsumhabib649
    @inaskulsumhabib649 9 месяцев назад +32

    I get you im not really into spice either but i really like the fantasy genre it always just has the best plots. I also noticed that spicy scenes has actually increased in the fantasy genre specifically so yeah its difficult to find a good fantasy read these days

  • @dorolicious
    @dorolicious 5 месяцев назад +5

    As I started with Yaoi, Hentai, smut fanfics in the old days, I definitely can say: we are surprised if the story has a plot! 😂

  • @nikki607
    @nikki607 8 месяцев назад +11

    Acotar is pretty low spice, true. But if what you’re expecting is NO spice, the sucker punch effect makes it feel super spicy

  • @ryannevanwesten8927
    @ryannevanwesten8927 8 месяцев назад +16

    Everyone has different spice levels. There is no shame in that

  • @adielmartinez400
    @adielmartinez400 9 месяцев назад +23

    Romantasy isn't my favorite style, but when I do read it I always skim those scenes. I don’t mind them at all and they don’t hinder my enjoyment overall but they're definitely not for me.
    That was the case for ACOTAR and more recently for Fourth Wing and Iron Flame. Although with those I had to be careful because sometimes the protagonist would actually have plot relevant magical developments in the middle of spicy stuff or even get interrupted by an attack and if I wasn't careful skimming suddenly I would be like "wait wait are they screaming because they're about to climax or about to get unalived"😂

  • @haikyuutrash7895
    @haikyuutrash7895 9 месяцев назад +43

    My God, I thought the same thing. The authors other series, throne of glass, just got progressively more and more spicy to the point I'd just skim through those sections.

    • @echatt93
      @echatt93 8 месяцев назад +1

      The funny thing is, I'd rate the ToG series as the lowest level spicy, ACoTaR as medium spicy, and CC as the most spicy of her series 😂😂

  • @KyliaSkydancer
    @KyliaSkydancer 9 месяцев назад +12

    I just had an entire conversation last month, inspired by the San Andreas Shifters series by Gail Carriger, about how there's really no good objective rating for spice anymore. To me that was a hefty amount of spice but a lot of people considered it low spice. Which makes it really hard to ask for recommendations when you don't know if the person you're asking is using the same scale as you.

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 8 месяцев назад +7

      Harlequin Romance actually has a spicy rating for their book lines and I kind of wish everyone had one.

  • @deathofanartist5237
    @deathofanartist5237 9 месяцев назад +28

    As an allosexual person with a few asexual friends, I'm now the "pre-reader" telling them what pages they can skip and what the spice level is. I'm not a huge fan of erotica bits and also just want them to get back to the story, because there's a time and place for me and the middle of a battle is not it, but now I feel like it's my job to push through.

    • @Jen_the_Dragon_Queen
      @Jen_the_Dragon_Queen 8 месяцев назад +8

      You're doing a far greater service than you know to us aces!!🥰 Sending love and hugs!🤗

    • @doodledogdiary3644
      @doodledogdiary3644 4 месяца назад +4

      Thank u for your service!! 🫡💜

    • @TonksTheFool
      @TonksTheFool 3 месяца назад +2

      We salute your efforts

    • @marnenotmarnie259
      @marnenotmarnie259 3 месяца назад +2

      you sound like a great friend!

  • @mollylong3772
    @mollylong3772 10 месяцев назад +67

    I think there’s a slight different to spicy and pure smut, where spicy you can still enjoy the story telling and then have that added bonus and the spicy chapters, but with smut I just feel there’s no actual story you’re really just there for the role play s*x hahaha

    • @veronicamaine3813
      @veronicamaine3813 8 месяцев назад +8

      That’s called erotica

    • @Nothereforit174
      @Nothereforit174 7 месяцев назад +3

      Role play sex in books isn’t a thing unless it’s specifically talking about bdsm or something. That’s just the couple dynamic. They’re not all healthy. So people should read with discernment

    • @Nothereforit174
      @Nothereforit174 7 месяцев назад +5

      And erotica is indeed a genre and a valid one

  • @honeybri7061
    @honeybri7061 9 месяцев назад +11

    I like romance, I don't like spice. So I end up skipping spicy sections.

  • @kavo1460
    @kavo1460 11 месяцев назад +58

    Some of the comments here just show how unempathetic some people can be 🙄 Like you didn’t say it was bad, just that spicy content isn’t for you amd didn’t judge anyone! Like I‘ve recently finished fourth wing and I also skipped some pages in that book, because I just find sex scenes absolutely boring and it was sometimes insufferable to me how horny they were about each other… Like I new that it would have spicy content because it is labeled as such, so I don‘t mind it at all, and I‘d still give the book 4 out of 5 stars because I loved the characters interactions with each other.

    • @EmilyAnn634571
      @EmilyAnn634571 11 месяцев назад +8

      Finally someone who doesn’t like spice. I need book recommendations!! Please and thank you

    • @tkr7018
      @tkr7018 10 месяцев назад +10

      Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind spice, but it has to be well written, make sense for the plot, and not over do it. Once it’s all they can do/think about I start skipping cause it gets sooo boring, and don’t get me started on the stupid word choices, ie throbbing member immediate ick

    • @bamagirlce12
      @bamagirlce12 9 месяцев назад +9

      Also on team 'most sex scenes are boring'. Like, I love flirting and buildup, but most descriptions of two people having sex make my eyes glaze over

    • @cmm5542
      @cmm5542 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@bamagirlce12Yep, as an old-fashioned religious person I expected to be shocked when I sort-of-accidentally discovered fanfiction. The only thing that DID shock me was the glamourizing of abuse - with most normal sex scenes I was like 'THIS is what all the fuss is about? Spare me; I'm going back to the PLOT!' 😂

    • @thegothbunny
      @thegothbunny 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@bamagirlce12 No bc same. It doesn't make or break a story for me, but sex scenes are soooo bland, boring and stale. Love the build up of the relationship, the flirting and the banter and the characters slowly getting closer, but I find the writing 99% takes a nosedive whenever sexytimes come up.
      And it's not bc it's vanilla or anything like that that makes my eyes start seeing through the pages whenever a sex scene happens, no no no, even if it's all hardcore or whatever, it still has me snoring, so I _know_ it's the writing.
      Not only that, but the writing _post_ sex scenes also tends to become worse in general, bc the writers get lazy with the characters and their dynamics and almost always fall back into making them satellites with no other thing going on in their mind than each other.

  • @blackdahlia42
    @blackdahlia42 9 месяцев назад +13

    once you've tried to read Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty series, your bar for what is considered "super spicy" drastically rises 😅

    • @blackdahlia42
      @blackdahlia42 9 месяцев назад +2

      I feel the need to clarify - this isn't a challenge by any means, moreso "thinking aloud" for myself. if someone finds ACOTAR super spicy, or feels like OP period and feeling uncomfortable about that sorta thing, I actually heavily recommend AGAINST trying the Beauty series because it'll prob be extremely uncomfortable for you and there's no reason to make yourself uncomfortable. the book isn't so necessary that you need to even try unless you WANT that sort of content

    • @a.katherinesuetterlin3028
      @a.katherinesuetterlin3028 7 месяцев назад

      I think I've seen a bit of Anne Rice's SB series, and I'm like, wow...I love my spice, but I think AR has beyond my own comfortability range...I think. I'd have to take a trip to Books-a-Million or B&N to try and re-read it. It's been a while.

    • @ittybittyissy
      @ittybittyissy 7 месяцев назад

      D:

    • @Nothereforit174
      @Nothereforit174 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@a.katherinesuetterlin3028Anne rice wrote erotica. People need to start looking at genre again and not just mixing everything under the label spice

    • @Nothereforit174
      @Nothereforit174 7 месяцев назад +6

      That’s an erotica series vs a fantasy romance with sexual elements. Subgenre matters so people don’t shame books for them not knowing what they getting into when the information is free

  • @emmawilliams8119
    @emmawilliams8119 10 месяцев назад +17

    Yeah I’m with you; I read them when I was…15-16 I think? Way too young imo to be reading anything like that (not that it’s something I want to read at all); honestly I thought it was on the high end too. I’m actually really glad you made this video because now I know to be super careful about what fantasy romance I read 😂

    • @cmm5542
      @cmm5542 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel the same way! Fortunately I prefer historical romance to fantasy . . . actually I've been blindsided by the ratings of some of that . . .

    • @BigLepordy1242
      @BigLepordy1242 9 месяцев назад

      Lol yeah I read the entire throne of glass series (which thankfully is much less spicy than acotar) when I was 11, I didn’t understand any of the… yknow but loved the story, then i reread it again when I was 15 and was like “omg how did I read this at 11” then I proceeded to read acotar lmao

  • @Rachael-x3x
    @Rachael-x3x 9 месяцев назад +5

    Yeah after reading ‘the claiming of sleeping beauty’ by Anne Rice as a kid nothing really seems that spicy to me, especially ACOTAR lol. I was 13 😅

  • @zeinahqasem2715
    @zeinahqasem2715 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think Pride and Prejudice along with The Night Circus are the romance books I enjoyed the most, and I’m still not finished with The Night Circus but it’s so hauntingly beautiful, and I recommend Pride and Prejudice to be among your first reads totally worth it unlike the movie though…. I love your shorts to the point where I’ll stay in RUclips way much more longer than I intended to if I clicked on one of your shorts♥️

  • @karendinkel9040
    @karendinkel9040 6 месяцев назад +3

    People talking about spice and me still riding a Dune 2 high is like ohh… that means something different lol

  • @LiveLaughLovePurple
    @LiveLaughLovePurple 2 месяца назад +1

    It has enough spice to keep me happy. Rhys… I Can’t explain how much I love him 😂❤

  • @Mourning_Rein
    @Mourning_Rein 9 месяцев назад +7

    Im like the opposite. As someone currently writing a fantasy romance book, I think it’s not too spicy but when most people see it they just go “OH MY GOD”

  • @norabeth1951
    @norabeth1951 11 месяцев назад +17

    I love your earrings! 😍

  • @graeson3317
    @graeson3317 9 месяцев назад +8

    I wish someone could print books like ACOTAR without the spicy scenes. I'm really uncomfortable with reading anything smut but I really wanna be able to read popular books cuz I have fomo. Until then I'm ok with missing out

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 8 месяцев назад +4

      Unfortunately, there are VERY few books without sex scenes (or a 'fade to black' kind of scene) that are mainstream. Sex Sells, unfortunately. This is why branching out of mainstream is always a great choice.

    • @graeson3317
      @graeson3317 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@GummyDinosaursifyI've honestly just avoided romance as a whole. Its just easier at this point plus my fav genres don't really align with romance sub plots so I'm in the clear.

  • @Dazai-Kinnie907
    @Dazai-Kinnie907 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've watched this video so many times because I relate to this so much but rn I just really really want her earrings

  • @ameliarhinerson9352
    @ameliarhinerson9352 8 месяцев назад +2

    I didn't realize just how spicy the stuff I was reading was until I read Silver Flames and considered it fairly tame...

  • @EnolaElorie
    @EnolaElorie Год назад +205

    There is literally just one sex scene (and a half at the end)...soooo...skipping huge sections was not really necessary, was it? :'D

    • @thehousepet5502
      @thehousepet5502 Год назад +61

      That’s only the first book… they get dramatically more spicy the more books you read

    • @EnolaElorie
      @EnolaElorie Год назад +30

      Sure, but the video was specifically about ACOTAR and she says she had to skip "huge sections" because of the smut...which...is a bit misleading.
      Granted the following books do contain more spicy content.

    • @jenniferg6671
      @jenniferg6671 11 месяцев назад +13

      Yeah... I hope she didn't try to read Silver Flames 😂🤣

    • @sunnyX19
      @sunnyX19 11 месяцев назад +39

      ​@@EnolaElorie
      I guess she is referring to the series as a whole since she said huge sections, because usually if you talk about the whole series you call it acotar or a court of thorns and roses, so it can be a bit misleading when it's also the name of the first book.

    • @kaylawaye
      @kaylawaye 11 месяцев назад +1

      What do you call the full series?

  • @kyirose2995
    @kyirose2995 4 месяца назад +5

    I found out that is was semi spicy and gave it to my friend. I hate spice in books even the small things.. which is odd as if it’s a webcomic I read high levels of spice. I’m thinking of doing an experiment on my insanity and reading a book with non straight spice.

  • @joycehammond7062
    @joycehammond7062 8 месяцев назад +12

    Gosh when people told me that ACOTAR was spicy and then I read it?... If someone thinks that's spicy they eould be utterly scandalized by what I read.

    • @AB-zr8pu
      @AB-zr8pu 8 месяцев назад +2

      Me too. I enjoy the tamer stuff too, it's fun, but ACOTAR is like the bell pepper of my spice range.

    • @alinab6571
      @alinab6571 8 месяцев назад

      What do you read? I would LOVE spicy recommendations!

    • @joycehammond7062
      @joycehammond7062 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@AB-zr8pu haha I know exactly what you mean! Season for everything, even if I do tend to lean towards the spice.
      Right now I'm reading the temple brothers and it's sorta medium spice, if that.
      But very wholesome.

    • @joycehammond7062
      @joycehammond7062 8 месяцев назад

      @@alinab6571 ooh geez! There's such a range! I go through books like fairy floss! What's your vibe? You like the HEAs? The Dark Romance? Books that make you cry? There's so many different styles within that as well. I could go on 😅
      But right now I'm reading the temple brothers, medium spicyish but very wholesome.

  • @nope6325
    @nope6325 7 месяцев назад +2

    As an ao3 *veteran* (god the things I’ve read), and writer that focuses a lot on spice and erotica, honestly, it seems like a lot because the first three books were marketed as YA. And also we for some reason feel the need to shower everything in smut, is it just me or does it feel like the amount of smut has drastically risen? It’s like people can’t go for two seconds without some sort of pornography. It’s kind of ironic as someone who writes a lot of erotica, to just despise how it’s like everywhere now. Some days I just want to read about wizards, dragons, and such. That stuff in romantasy is usually super unnecessary and super cringe.

  • @aya9489
    @aya9489 5 месяцев назад +2

    I feel you. I managed to read and enjoyed the first ones... A court of Silver Flames though? Never finished it 😅😅😅😅

  • @Ileleana
    @Ileleana 3 месяца назад +1

    my level of spice tolerance differs by the day. some days i want it all and other days i'm skipping sections lol

  • @themediocreviolist3506
    @themediocreviolist3506 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s so funny hearing someone pronounce comfortable the way it’s spelled, rather than “comfturble” haha

  • @whatshappening708
    @whatshappening708 8 месяцев назад +1

    I get goosebumps when characters in pern kiss, spicy books are still way beyond my comfort 😅

  • @mariakara2419
    @mariakara2419 4 месяца назад +2

    i literally clicked on this recommendation because i did want to hear something funny because i just saw a very sad or bittersweet short. so thanks❣️

  • @myfavcherrypie9092
    @myfavcherrypie9092 8 месяцев назад +3

    I used to read erotics, not because I was crazy about them, I was interested in how you can portrait romance and closure in many different ways. I planned on writing my own book one day and I read all the genres I had problems with. And now when I see books like acotar my brain is happy. I'm resting from that trauma that erotics were 😅

  • @faithhellman402
    @faithhellman402 8 месяцев назад

    Ok but, I love this earrings-

  • @heeralyadav3310
    @heeralyadav3310 11 месяцев назад +5

    Totally agree i dont like reading smut it makes me uncomfortable. The only kind i actually like is the shatter me one.

  • @januarymelody8511
    @januarymelody8511 9 месяцев назад +6

    I never realized how many people get uncomfortable with reading "spicy” parts of a book. I don’t get why though.

    • @abcisneros91
      @abcisneros91 8 месяцев назад +11

      Because, those details aren't important to the storyline. The planned sex scenes in every chapter are too predictable, it feels like porn. I feel like it takes away from the intimacy of the couple. Sex sells I guess.

    • @Bllue
      @Bllue 8 месяцев назад +5

      You're definitely not still taking about acotar, there was 1 scene with a whole lot of buildup.

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 8 месяцев назад +6

      This is like saying you don't understand why people don't pineapple on pizza. It's just a preference. You like smut, other people don't.

    • @kpopnimation
      @kpopnimation 8 месяцев назад +2

      For me, it’s because I’m ace and I love romance but spice is just repulsive to me.

    • @m.jaakkola1707
      @m.jaakkola1707 5 месяцев назад +1

      I'm late to the party but here is my two cents. Personally, I'm not uncomfortable with the spice per se. It's more to do with the fact that most writes have no clue how to write smutty scenes or the build up to the moment well.

  • @itssomethingspecial0420
    @itssomethingspecial0420 8 месяцев назад +3

    I recently bought the entire 5 book set of Acotar. I'll read it after my exams...

    • @secretofbeings
      @secretofbeings 8 месяцев назад

      Bro same i bought it 4 days ago and will read it after my finals 😂

  • @Not_an_80_year_old_woman
    @Not_an_80_year_old_woman 8 месяцев назад

    I am IN LOVE with those earrings

  • @Ash_wolfy
    @Ash_wolfy 6 месяцев назад +1

    FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ALSO SKIPS THOSE CHAPTERS

  • @katie7673
    @katie7673 Месяц назад

    Recommendations please. Can you make a list of top ten spicy books, top ten historical fantasy? And so on? I have no clue what to read next

  • @rosedmett5727
    @rosedmett5727 8 месяцев назад +2

    Having read the Kushiel's Legacy series by Jacqueline Carey, most recommendations from booktok have been mild spice at best. (TW: Kushiel's Dart includes a lot of bdsm throughout, and r*pe in the middle section.)

  • @Dani.batess
    @Dani.batess 9 месяцев назад +2

    Acotar was my starter series for fantasy/any romance genre.

  • @dsur89
    @dsur89 24 дня назад

    Same girl same the last book almost killed me

  • @wackykittykat99
    @wackykittykat99 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was told it was spicy and was sorely disappointed with the spice level

  • @amgamingreview7588
    @amgamingreview7588 5 месяцев назад +1

    Well acosf is definitely higher in spice but it definitely doesn’t compare to some of the stuff I picked up and quickly put down. If you can’t make it through the first chapter without adding spice, we have a problem. Or at least I do. I know some people enjoy spicier books but there’s an extent.

  • @Bucky_Winchester
    @Bucky_Winchester 8 месяцев назад +1

    I rarely don't like smut scenes in romantasy, I'm fine with it, but ACOSF made me feel super weird tbh. Mostly bc it felt so forced to me and there was no real build-up that led to the explosion of smut after 200 pages of barely any plot at all. Never thought I'd say that, but as a reader I need a little bit of foreplay 😭

  • @chanelleblouet7609
    @chanelleblouet7609 8 месяцев назад +1

    Did that once. Skipped spicy scenes of a book *cough fanfiction cough* I was reading. Then cam back a few months later and read it in its entirety

  • @missanthropy6174
    @missanthropy6174 5 месяцев назад +1

    Here’s something even funnier. I am not a fan of “spice.” I’m not a prude, it’s just that if I’m in a spicy mood, I want to go do something spicy, not read or watch. That’s boring to me. I am a huge fan of ToG and the first 5 books had the perfect amount of romance content for me. An engaging romantic subplot that never got explicit and didn’t take up too much of the page relative to the action. Then I started reading ACOTAR when ToG was only partially finished and was shocked and a bit put off by the level of romance and spice content. Then I read Empire of Storms and thought that the spice level would be the same as the rest of the books in ToG, only to get smacked in the face with “velvet wrapped steal.” 😳😑 WHY?!

  • @Book_girlieee
    @Book_girlieee 2 месяца назад

    YES, I totally agree, I was not prepared for this book as a preteen😭

  • @tasegomeara
    @tasegomeara 2 месяца назад

    Same! I mostly read WW2 historical fiction and memoirs of people who had horrible life experiences so I got a bit of a shock 🙈

  • @hannalord7637
    @hannalord7637 9 часов назад

    The sections you skip are my favourite parts 👁️👄👁️

  • @samuelleask1132
    @samuelleask1132 Месяц назад

    Those LOTR earrings are awesome

  • @sophiethee
    @sophiethee 8 месяцев назад +1

    I can only see half that shirt. But I love it and want it

  • @embodyingmysticalmac
    @embodyingmysticalmac 7 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly Scarlet St. Clair does smut a lot better. Her characters are full, her plots make sense, and consent matters. All things that cannot be said for ACOTAR imo.

  • @annahamrick2156
    @annahamrick2156 8 месяцев назад +2

    Love the Andúril earings!

  • @ashleykennedy2824
    @ashleykennedy2824 8 месяцев назад +1

    Being on the low end of the spice spectrum was one of the things I liked about acotar. 😂

  • @CheaterSama
    @CheaterSama 8 месяцев назад +8

    If you weren’t comfortable with the spice level, then it certainly was too spicy. People’s perceptions can differ greatly, so it’s always best to just listen to yourself and don’t force it. Skipping spice in favor of the story is not the worst thing to do. :3

  • @MsQjoe
    @MsQjoe 9 месяцев назад +2

    It contains like 2 deeply boring nearly fade-to-black sex scenes. I'm astonished by the people who try to sell it to others as like, faerie porn.

  • @carpe_demon
    @carpe_demon 6 месяцев назад +1

    My husband read Fourth Wing and could not handle the graphic... spice. Was way beyond anything he had ever encountered in a book. The look on his face when I explained that it seemed pretty clean to me, compared to what I generally read in fantasy. 😂
    I told him it's like when we go to a certain Asian restaurant nearby that has a 1-5 spice scale, but also an off-menu 0 that we call "white girl" (that's what I order). ACOTAR is that. 😂😂

  • @shawnveric1169
    @shawnveric1169 6 месяцев назад

    Lol I feel that. It starts off so mild but as the books go on more spice gets piled on

  • @bast713
    @bast713 4 месяца назад

    Reading through the comments has been genuinely a learning experience.

  • @bethanygreenwood8259
    @bethanygreenwood8259 8 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly I was so disappointed when I started book 1, I forget just how spicy I read now 😅

  • @Elif-tf6ic
    @Elif-tf6ic 7 месяцев назад +1

    ACOSF raised the bar much higher than first three books on level of spicy…

  • @richardblackmore9351
    @richardblackmore9351 2 месяца назад

    Me reading ACOTAR as a man: "oh wait, I'm supposed to do that?"

  • @Adanne09
    @Adanne09 4 месяца назад +1

    Your earrings are sooooo cute❤

  • @ghostgem27
    @ghostgem27 8 месяцев назад +2

    Then BOY am I the most spice intolerant person on the planet. But Proper Romances are out there for all us spice-intolerant people!

  • @RyMann88
    @RyMann88 8 месяцев назад +2

    Even Silver Flames is tame compared to something like Legacy of the Nine Realms series.

  • @RamDragon32
    @RamDragon32 Месяц назад

    The spiciest book i have says, "It was awesome." And that is all the detail it gives. I appreciate that in a military focused space opera.

  • @jettadin
    @jettadin 2 месяца назад

    Completely unrelated but oh my gosh I love that shirt so much. Also, good to know about ACOTAR? I think?

  • @Spook-a-Roo
    @Spook-a-Roo 8 месяцев назад +1

    Court of The Vampire Queen is VERY spicy, like it’s all spice. For anyone wondering, well worth the read just be prepared!!

  • @chimac531
    @chimac531 4 месяца назад +1

    Laurel K Hamilton- Anita Blake series and Meredith Gentry series - spicy 🌶️

    • @bast713
      @bast713 4 месяца назад

      See the reason I stopped reading Anita Blake wasn't the spice, it's because it felt like it started with a plot and then felt like it turned into PwP, and worse I didn't like the character direction. Whereas Meredith Gentry I had no problem with because it didn't feel like a bait and switch (I fully admit that my expectations for Anita Blake might have been working against me). Genuinely curious where other people rank the spice level of these.

  • @literaryworm6563
    @literaryworm6563 8 месяцев назад

    I love those earrings and need to make a pair like them!

  • @stephanginther9051
    @stephanginther9051 3 месяца назад

    Those sword earrings are cool

  • @natk8805
    @natk8805 Месяц назад

    So let me tell you, it was my VERY FIRST spicy/smutty romance book, in fact, I didn’t even know what the word smut meant until I read it.
    My friend just recommended it to me because she knew that I like fantasy and I like romance (like just a love line - like Arwen and Aragorn , like beauty and the beast… haha naive me) so I did NOT expect the level of spiciness that happened in those books lol.. anyway now I’m hooked. Book #6 can’t come fast enough.
    And btw, since you mentioned that level of spiciness in ACOTAT is kinda low, please feel free to share other books that surpass it!;)

  • @birnamwood9622
    @birnamwood9622 Месяц назад

    Throne of glass was my entry into spicy books, but I still haven't read too many spicy books yet, but my want for romance is probably stronger because of Mass' works. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @sapphiresquire
    @sapphiresquire 3 месяца назад

    I decided I want to make a personal spice scale after reading it, for reference. I heard it was super spicy, and was afraid of it, read it, and thought "...that's really not as high on the pepper scale as I was expecting"

  • @GrandiaKnight
    @GrandiaKnight 2 дня назад

    It gets spicer as the series goes on but still only low to mid spice by the end

  • @LexTime89
    @LexTime89 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve spent a lot of time reading romance, so when people started going off about ACOTAR being so spicy and freaking out about fairy p*rn, etc, I was honestly baffled and curious whether we had read the same book 😂🤦‍♀️ ACOSF is another thing entirely

  • @loralubimaia2783
    @loralubimaia2783 3 месяца назад

    I couldn't believe how spicy Fourth Wing was. After that ACOTAR is so tame

  • @aausten9352
    @aausten9352 8 месяцев назад +1

    I mean, in fairness, there's a bunch of Nesta's book that's just like SMUT SMUT SMUT and not doing anything for the plot, so like...I skipped all those sections too because it may be spicy but there's only so much variation to what can happen in smut and I'm not just here for the porn

  • @WillExplode
    @WillExplode 8 месяцев назад +1

    Girl where’d you get those earrings they look amazing ❤

  • @Syndicate888
    @Syndicate888 2 месяца назад

    Lol, I really want to see your shirt for some reason - I have this feeling like it's really cool, but just out of shot!

  • @16Ravers
    @16Ravers 2 месяца назад

    I started it because I thought it was supposed to be super spicy 😂 I was disappointed in the volume and depth of spice but I stayed for the story haha ❤ I still love fantasy

  • @brinkittyalt
    @brinkittyalt 3 месяца назад

    SAME!! Thank you for stating this. My thoughts exactly - I had to skip a lot too 😂

  • @Milkymalk
    @Milkymalk 3 месяца назад

    Here I am, never reading romance so far but making a looong list based off books you mention in your shorts.