iRO's cash shop PROBLEM! Greed is destroying games (Ragnarok Rants)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @Alshorba
    @Alshorba 2 месяца назад +7

    Love your videos Amber!

  • @Evil_Chronic
    @Evil_Chronic 2 месяца назад +1

    Been playing iRO since 2004, and I agree with the p2w aspects. The 8 hour maintenance though, thats more on the players. Back in the day it was only 2 hours. And occasionally they would go over the 2 hours, and every time people would complain about wanting compensation. Happened enough they made maintenance longer.

  • @MisoSanSoup
    @MisoSanSoup 2 месяца назад +9

    I want to play RO so bad but i just cant bring myself to go back because i keep remembering how unplayable it is for a new F2P player 😢😢

    • @MisoSanSoup
      @MisoSanSoup 2 месяца назад +1

      Not to mention the horrible lag

    • @xTensu
      @xTensu 2 месяца назад +2

      I am free to play and I am doing well, the important thing is to find friends who help you in the process and little by little you will advance.

    • @mewimi
      @mewimi 2 месяца назад +3

      @@xTensu You mean friends that are cash cows? :3

    • @xTensu
      @xTensu 2 месяца назад +1

      @@mewimi Not really, but since they have been playing for a long time they are already equipped, and they also help me with how to level up and how to equip myself in the most efficient way.

  • @adikurnia5364
    @adikurnia5364 2 месяца назад +1

    tbh, there is no convenient monetization system for classic ragnarok since they designed for monthly subscribtion in the first place, and because the engine is very old, and cosmetic is kinda hard to implement since the game have semi-realistic 2.5D styke, and they can't make any interesting cosmetic without breaking the game immersion

  • @balaw8466
    @balaw8466 2 месяца назад +2

    I really really liked Ragnarok since it started. But now i've outgrown my love for my favorite game because its become to obvious this game is like a casino. The paywall is just to heavy. I've finally tried Final Fantasy XIV, its just a whole new experience, its really a good game, I regret trying out FFXIV too late.

  • @elymX
    @elymX 2 месяца назад +5

    Ragnarok died a decade ago. Its just a milking cow now for Gravity. shame

    • @Glacshot0
      @Glacshot0 Месяц назад

      Died with 3rd jobs imo😢

  • @delsings
    @delsings 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for this video. I haven't touched my iro in years but started playing Ragnarok Online Origins (ROO) which has been a good "next generation RO game but yeah... so much money stuff to the point where the whales skew the pvp areas balance to mostly unwinnable as f2p. Kafra pass in that version gives decent perks for roughly the same amount monthly that iro used to charge for subscription, but I'm consistently still woefully underpowered because I don't (can't really) spend much. It's saddening to me that they are doing iro like that especially for how long it has existed. I hope they see your content and take the complaint seriously. Legacy players should be listened to, especially if they want improved new player population.

    • @U_SpoonyBard
      @U_SpoonyBard 2 месяца назад +1

      Wait, they restarted origins?

    • @delsings
      @delsings 2 месяца назад

      @@U_SpoonyBard origins started in 2024 pretty sure, but could be wrong. It's both a mobile app and for pc

    • @delsings
      @delsings 2 месяца назад

      @@U_SpoonyBard oh and we just got 3rd jobs for the base classes. Bards, dancers, alchemist etc but no 3rds for them yet to give an idea of where it's at.

  • @snoopyslinger2981
    @snoopyslinger2981 2 месяца назад +3

    This is why i like playing in muhRO. Its the only non p2w server for competitive people like me. Unlike other private servers, shiningmoon is notorious for having corrupt gm. Official RO is also almost as bad

    • @EneruM
      @EneruM 2 месяца назад +1

      Started playing MuhRO like 3 days ago! My first renewal server in 10 years, trying to figure things out, playing to chill so just pacing it out.

  • @senpaitaboo3831
    @senpaitaboo3831 2 месяца назад +1

    its definitely F2P some players just dont know how to do it actually

  • @joanalberola1316
    @joanalberola1316 Месяц назад

    I'm completely f2p with no cash shop gear windhawk lv 238, pretty proud not gonna lie. But yeah, you are right, the cash shop is super dumb broken and makes gearing up irrelevant, why go farm when you can use your credit card :/. You could talk about what content we don't have yet, like the paradise gear that korea got in 2016 I believe... Such a fantastic gear to level up the 3rd jobs and we still don't have it, it is mindblowing to me.

  • @PaulKiden
    @PaulKiden 9 дней назад

    All hail the gorgeous princess of iro

  • @GearGamingRO
    @GearGamingRO 2 месяца назад +1

    Great Rant. Yeah, there are too much PaytoWin in the game. I think iRO has released a lot of content after the 4th job released. We got a new dungeon. Airship, tomb of remorse, and villa of deception. I hope they continue releasing more stuff. Have fun on RO.

    • @dropygaming
      @dropygaming 2 месяца назад +1

      I wish they give newbie consumables

    • @GearGamingRO
      @GearGamingRO 2 месяца назад

      @@dropygaming I think the academy gives out beginner potions, but yes, some free blue potions would help new players.

    • @dropygaming
      @dropygaming 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GearGamingRO its not enough 2 pcs old battle manual and some buffs your right blue pots to cuz the blue syrup's is to costly

  • @axellyann5085
    @axellyann5085 2 месяца назад +2

    Being honest. Cash shop doesn't botter me in the slightest and i very rarely spend something in this game so those "daily login trash" is very useful, specially the vip.
    Btw I see no point to compare an old ass game like ragnarok with a much more modern game like ffxiv. If i would put it on paper, i spent more money paying sub in ffxiv for a year than in my 16 years of ragnarok. Should i consider ffxiv a more expensive game?

  • @Sk_Beaver
    @Sk_Beaver 2 месяца назад

    It's not exactly about the video itself, which I agree 100%, is the reality of every official ragnarok server, and that's why today I only play privates. But I just wanted to make a comment haha, this name "international ragnarok online" is something that has always bothered me a lot, because "international" is just the name.
    I'm Brazilian, I really like the game, and if I wanted to play, I could, but in the same way as I could play any other official server in the world. But there's no way for me to change the client's language to Portuguese, I don't have support in my language, I can't make purchases with my local currency, nor are there any proxies to improve the quality of the connection. In other words, international, just the name haha.

  • @robert_d_a
    @robert_d_a 2 месяца назад

    I leveled well in lasagna up to about 150, bounty quests, then in versus to 170. Looking for my next area

  • @teh_jibbler
    @teh_jibbler 2 месяца назад

    I guess there's a reason why I get to 3rd job and get bored and make a new character over and over. Having fun anyway, though.

  • @saynotop2w
    @saynotop2w 2 месяца назад

    I have a lot of say on this so I'll try not to go too deep.
    They need to fix:
    -outdated cash items that are nowhere near the match of the exchanged zeny value (Fortune Sword for 100KP etc)
    -restore old cash item functionality i.e. reset stones actually being able to reset quests again, no cash items that you paid real money should ever change its functions
    -simplify the catalog, there is no need to put Enriched Ores in three different categories
    WP has been improving their game to their credit, but it's going at a snail's pace as opposed to the competitions which are moving at a much brisk pace. I keep coming back every year around holidays and I see bugs/exploits that are literally 20 years old, still untouched. I'm not telling anyone here because that info can be abused, but if you see me in game I'll show anyone who asks, because hell, it's not getting fixed any time soon.

  • @lightningxiv-eb9rv
    @lightningxiv-eb9rv 2 месяца назад +1

    I really hope you play FFXIV. I know you're gonna have a great time. I moved on from RO for years now but when I played FFXIV, I played the Lalafell so I stlll have the chibi vibes of being a ragnarok player.

  • @lChronosl93
    @lChronosl93 2 месяца назад +1

    Yeah. Since at least 2010 Gravity has only cared about squeezing every little cent of Ragnarok instead of growing and improving the game.
    And since apparently the cash shop whales give more money than subscriptions, that is the route they've taken.
    Ragnarok is not unique, but Gravity takes it to new extremes.

    • @dropygaming
      @dropygaming 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah too many mobile shit games

  • @deaelbowe4146
    @deaelbowe4146 2 месяца назад

    So missed your videos. Today was a good day.

  • @wybuchowyukomendant
    @wybuchowyukomendant 2 месяца назад

    That`s why i quit official servers long time ago, and just play on privates from time to time when I crave a little porings` bloodbath. Pay to win is one thing, but I just don`t enjoy this new ragnarok anymore, where you can solo everything, doing 23453463453465345 dmg with one skill. All i need for happiness are classic jobs and real struggle to kill MVP with a proper party :}

  • @jakelovebuy
    @jakelovebuy 2 месяца назад

    iRO need to update Paradise Equipment for new player, If iRO has Paradise Equipment new player can come to play at any time, But we only have Master Challenge event.

  • @amecoeur
    @amecoeur 2 месяца назад

    It's the only game they can get money from. Their other projects keep failing.
    Even in the unofficial places the grind for gears (enchant gamble, jRO gears crafting, shadowgears, etc) is unbearable.
    I go back once in a while seeing what new things do they have but either I can't do them reliably enough or I simply undergeared to do them.

  • @MrKimadori
    @MrKimadori 2 месяца назад

    its actually fun to play this game pure F2P and not buy OCPS's cause itll make you figure out and research ways to improve your gear.
    I played this game for a few months buying alot of cash items at first and i gotta be honest, when you're hitting those Godly damage at end game, it kinda gets boring. but a totally different scenario when playing pure F2P.. love this game. and yes greed system is trashy and needs to be updated

  • @percymalice3587
    @percymalice3587 2 месяца назад

    i thought of returning to iRO since it's one of the few mmos with no checklist gameplay. Is the market search engine still awful? How's the market nowadays? Is it harder to build-up funds compared to like 6 years ago? Also how's the population?
    I managed to play just fine back then till max lvl (with decent equipment) with only vip expense didn't spend on other stuff, but i quit due to ragial getting removed and homunAI having issues.

    • @AmberEvelyn
      @AmberEvelyn  2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah they still have the awful market board. There's a market discord that catalogs what's being sold but I haven't figured out how to use it. It's easy to get some quick zeny if you buy and sell cash shop stuff but aside from that... FOR ME.... I find it impossible to make money in game. Like SERIOUS money. My Ranger is 150 and 1 piece of gear is easily 1 billion zeny. So getting all good gear just so I can solo.... yeah....

    • @percymalice3587
      @percymalice3587 2 месяца назад

      @@AmberEvelyn hm 1 billion doesn't sound that bad if it's something i can use on multiple characters, tho really hard now if the board is still awful to use. i just soloed with my gene on nightmare clocktower till max level back then.
      about the homunAI, i guess they really don't want ppl to afk with them anymore if they go dumb every 30 mins.
      maybe i'll not go back to iro =-=, observing the market in real time and building zeny as semi-f2p was 80% of the game for me back then, if i can't do that then better just chill somewhere else.
      Thanks for the infos : )

  • @m.afirdaus4003
    @m.afirdaus4003 2 месяца назад

    AND THAT’S what makes me hard to play on an official server.
    Honestly, I don’t mind to pay here and there, but I AM NOT going to WHALE…
    and this pattern amber, I gotta tell you, it’s systemic culture of the company.
    Mind you, there are AT LEAST 3 mobile games from Gravity and they just trying to be as greedy as fk.
    One game just closing down prior reaching it peaks. And the MODS and Dev just lazy as fk to give any innovation. Just release repeatable monsters, heroes, items, that seems OP but you HAVE to WHALE.
    It reminds me of where they even try to limit the access by selling Time-Voucher based at the beginning of their release, back when I was 14.
    Even after 20 years the community holds their game live. They seems just not give a damn about what needs to be fixed.
    They already understand that, no matter how bad the game is. People will be willing to coming back. Sad.

  • @PatrickStaight
    @PatrickStaight 2 месяца назад

    I thought that at 1:17 you were going to say what really bugs you to no end is when people don't relaunch Chrome to update.

  • @MaxCas
    @MaxCas 2 месяца назад

    games now a days are ment to be unfair thus making it unenjoyable with f2p player like me, the old ragnarok is long dead and I have tried a lot of remakes and other servers but meh,
    i understand that they need cash support to sustain the server, like amber said, I also don't mind paying donations or playtime, this is absurd.

  • @AzamuddinSam
    @AzamuddinSam 2 месяца назад

    Gotta agree with you, to me the game has become a gambling game

  • @servenbolt6800
    @servenbolt6800 2 месяца назад

    The RO we used to know has long long gone. I made my return 4 months ago, played about 3 months.
    There's nothing much to proud about the game anymore. All the over power Cash Shop gears ruined the game.
    :MvP drop mean nothing, but some MvP card still holding it value.
    : drop rate is still sarcastic.
    : loot from monster has very little value. When you need hundreds of millions if not billions, 500 Zeny loot don't do much.
    Sure we can craft some decent gears, but those craft materials take ages to gather, with swiping you get ten times better equipment for what can you craft in the game.
    I mean it's not only RO doing it. All other MMORPG games are expensive these days.
    Think it is time to quit gaming.

  • @Zsaber64
    @Zsaber64 2 месяца назад +2

    As always, I'm good scratching my nostalgia itch for this game through your videos versus actually playing it, so thank you!

  • @jpranindito
    @jpranindito 2 месяца назад

    man i forgot my old warportal email and i cant ractivate my id, its sad

  • @bonzaii4199
    @bonzaii4199 2 месяца назад

    Mom wake up! Amber is back!

  • @darwinparas9999
    @darwinparas9999 2 месяца назад

    Can you try merchant speed run?

  • @hamz2766
    @hamz2766 2 месяца назад

    The OCP equipment destroying "mmorpg" it self . what if ro didnt add on the first place ? that's gonna be good 100% .Equipment only from instance.dungeon and etc .people will enjoying instance ,mvp with their friend 100% ....im sure without selling OCP equipment , people still top up for costume and refinement items . or there's many way making RO better Example : they can sell OCP equipment ,but player f2p can get it too with crafting (but the equipment cannot be trade) .but in the end , what happened has happened .

  • @runaisri
    @runaisri 2 месяца назад +2

    girl just quit this game and play ffxiv, gravity is a greedy and lazy company.

  • @Luna-wq3ns
    @Luna-wq3ns Месяц назад

    🙃"its a cash shop thing.... moving along" hahaha

  • @duyquang3589
    @duyquang3589 2 месяца назад

    this is why you play private server not official server.

  • @berniegran5391
    @berniegran5391 2 месяца назад

    love you , have my children!!

  • @FOLDMEDIA
    @FOLDMEDIA 2 месяца назад

    Hi Amber Im a new player, can you teach us about the events?

    • @AmberEvelyn
      @AmberEvelyn  2 месяца назад

      I like some of the seasonal events they do! I suspect a halloween one might be coming soon. So maybe I'll do a video on it!

  • @Glacshot0
    @Glacshot0 Месяц назад

    Cash shop ruins everything 😢

  • @PunkFiddler
    @PunkFiddler 2 месяца назад

    They're just milking the game til everyone abandons it. iRO became the new pRO, in terms of scumminess.

  • @berniegran5391
    @berniegran5391 2 месяца назад

    im playing the EU prime server, is it better ?

    • @AmberEvelyn
      @AmberEvelyn  2 месяца назад

      Not sure myself but i'd like to know also!

  • @onoredecade3597
    @onoredecade3597 2 месяца назад +1

    This is why I play private server instead

  • @Halfrican4111
    @Halfrican4111 2 месяца назад

    I used to spend money but i've boycotted spending a dime since the 4th job garbage they pulled. They don't deserve money leaving the horrible first version 4th job skills for a year now with no expanded 4th job class update. They want money but don't want to bring any meaningful content. Lazy greedy company. There's not even a reason for these OCP's, there's no real hard content besides maybe Villa, GNA and tomb of remorse, which wouldn't be hard if the 4th job skills were fixed.

  • @wildsidder
    @wildsidder 2 месяца назад

    This is the reason I stopped playing the game.

  • @unknownperson2422
    @unknownperson2422 Месяц назад

    I stopped doing cash shop. Its a scam.

  • @Sammich88
    @Sammich88 2 месяца назад +4

    Okay I'm going to say all of this before I watch the video to see if it holds up until the end.
    The iRO cash shop is literally better than ever. They've introduced SO many bad luck protection and took down the wall that gatekeepers kept up this entire time. Practically everyone has access to significantly cheaper costume stones, gear, and cosmetics otherwise. Things that used to cost 5~10b+ now cost as low as 1b or less which seems to have happened almost over night. In reality it happened over the course of around 2 months since the bad luck protection got introduced. Now every player has a reasonable access to things like (Dual) stones, Shadows, and other costume stones that's almost essential for builds to work at all.
    The number speaks for itself. It is currently a Thursday, 7:57 AM here. The game has 1918 players as I'm typing this where as about a year ago, at this time of day it usually had under 1000. They're doing a lot of things right. They're catering to the vast general audience than the whales in this game more than ever. Whether you or anyone like it though, this game doesn't have many players and in order to run it nowadays, it'll need to generate money from somewhere. They can't afford to go back to the old subscription service anymore in current day and age.
    There's also quite a bit of BiS(Best in Slot) gear that you cannot get in the cash shop. They've been rolling out updates making every level point easier other than the final stretch which they'll be adding soon enough at this rate. They've added more bounty boards and bumped the EXP for said bounty and older bounty boards as well recently. This game is more accessible than it's been in probably 10 years.
    They even introduced the Daily Login Cards as well. Instead of needing to log on all 20 days, now you really only have to log 15 of the 20 days to get the max reward. And the kicker? You get to choose every reward on the list if you decided to get something else instead. You're not forced to receive any specific rewards anymore. Each reward is tailored to you and what you need.
    Can this game be improved somehow? Of course. Do any of us REALLY know what we're talking about within this youtube video when we talk about what we want fixed and how to fix it? Probably not. We think we do, but we likely don't.
    Try to not be so stuck with looking at the negatives, else you'll look right past the positives. Like the way you said "mileage coupon, a cash shop thing...", you don't even realize how HUGE it is for the average player that spends little to no money. Gear like Magic Penetration Shadows used to cost 20b+ but now since they're all easily accessible through that Mileage Coupon, some of the pieces fell as low as 1b(pendant) and other pieces are falling as well. You can legit farm ether dusts for 3 or so days and save up enough to buy it. Look at the overall objective and what it's achieved rather than just very surface level complaints. It goes way deeper than you think.

    • @saynotop2w
      @saynotop2w 2 месяца назад +1

      lol... whole 2000 players. Did you know this game used to have 20k population servers and 6 servers running per region

    • @Sammich88
      @Sammich88 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@saynotop2w
      This game has improved alot over the year whether you like it or not. As for you, it's okay to try and improve your health today. Are you going to be as healthy you were 20 years ago? Probably not. Can you work on being healthier today and moving forward? Absolutely. Same concept here.
      Just because you were better back then doesn't mean it's hopeless to work on being better today.

    • @brandonmalih3299
      @brandonmalih3299 2 месяца назад

      i support today's GM,
      the GM Beelzebub, before he come , many item that have inf atk bug

  • @ricebagell9666
    @ricebagell9666 21 день назад

    lol I could feel your annoyance in this vid

  • @ThatLuckyBear
    @ThatLuckyBear 2 месяца назад +1

    iRO has a severe "circling the drain problem." In order to keep the game above water they need to prove to the suits it's worth it (read: $$$) I don't blame them but it's self defeating. By chasing money they lose the long game since there's nothing for newer players. I don't see this ever getting better because its a negative feedback loop: "make less money, force more cash shop" ad infinitum. Sad to see my game in such a state. 😞

  • @triadigunawan9236
    @triadigunawan9236 2 месяца назад

    Long time no see ur content.

  • @lencina3608
    @lencina3608 2 месяца назад

    If you still fall for this scam in 2024 its on you m8

  • @mewimi
    @mewimi 2 месяца назад

    Renewal destroyed Ragnarok Online ;[

  • @hc9kt367
    @hc9kt367 2 месяца назад

    i wouldnt mind cash shop if you didnt have to fucking gamble for what you actually want lol

  • @albrechtniemann8027
    @albrechtniemann8027 2 месяца назад

    Gravity's destroying their own games due to greed, really? Have you been asleep all this time or what? It's been known since early 2000's. The best servers are private ones, always has been this way.

    • @AmberEvelyn
      @AmberEvelyn  2 месяца назад +1

      That's why in the video I said it's been a problem for a long time. 😅

  • @rezacomplex5327
    @rezacomplex5327 23 дня назад

    ro with ro empty world... cant be call ragnarok

  • @NurRamadan-b9b
    @NurRamadan-b9b 2 месяца назад

    gravitylink always greedy

  • @rei35p
    @rei35p 2 месяца назад

    I just started my 2nd month of playing in chaos server and you know it, I have to put some money in the cash shop to start lmao 😂 which I don't really mind since instead of farming in the game, I just farm in real life to spend in the game. 😂

  • @dragontechgaming6677
    @dragontechgaming6677 2 месяца назад +1

    your beating a dead horse.
    ether leave the game or stop crying about it's issues.
    there's only one way to force change and it will suck but you will have to quit the game.
    sitting there ranting about the issues while still playing the game means you accept the issue and are complacent.
    if you are complacent then no change will ever happen.

    • @AmberEvelyn
      @AmberEvelyn  2 месяца назад +1

      I think it's worth talking about the game's issues and doing that while still actively playing is okay. Quitting is one way to push for change, but so is bringing attention to the problems. If no one says anything, then it's like we're just silently accepting it. Different people will handle it in their own way, but I’d rather speak up than just walk away without trying.

  • @screedsmeh3360
    @screedsmeh3360 2 месяца назад

    4th class desteoy the game. No more funny pvp

  • @blahblahgdp
    @blahblahgdp 2 месяца назад

    its why we all jumped to pserver :)