I follow you on another channel, but I follow you for interest on this one. I hope to have studios in every Peapod center which I anticipate to be in 4000 locations all over the world. I watch -- and I learn from you and others. My anticipation is to find in every culture and micro culture throughout the world… voices of others, in a (1) cultural preservation and (2) community building and (3) independent wealth builder of participants.
Great demo Colt. Usually with engineers on RUclips, when as a fan you're playing back on a laptop without decent cans or speakers, it's pretty hard to appreciate the difference properly if they just hit bypass (and usually hitting it at a phrase change so it's even harder). Just playing with the pots like you do here is extremely helpful, going to the extremes like an engineer would in the studio, then showing where your sweet spot is in your mix. Thanks!
That channel strip is top shelf stuff for sure. Happy to see Shawn on your channel, been a fan of his demos for many years. What a magnificent guitar playing machine he is.
id really love to see these in an actual 6 channel desk similar to what SLL has done with the big 6, 6 of these with a monitor section and some faders would be dreamy for most project studios nowadays
Brother, welcome back! Your back at you positivity state. Eventually everything is going to be good no matter the obstacles! All the best to you! Christ is King!
You CAN have both Red & Blue Silk if you have the patience to process one track at a time back to your DAW. I’ve never had a problem with running the output of a hi quality processor back into another one if you watch your gain properly. So just take the output of your first Newton into the input of your second Newton. Now you can make the first Newton “Red” and the second one “Blue”. You can also dial in some different EQ points on the second Newton. Regarding price - yes, not inexpensive but when you consider that you are getting outstanding A/D convertors, Neve Preamp, EQ, AND a Good compressor thrown in !?!? Wow. Just Wow!
think you just convinced me to snatch this up. I’ve been debating on what i wanted to be my first piece of outboard gear and this will work beautifully as a starting piece. Great video!
I bought one the first day he uploaded the video I was sold I swot he'd from seperate pre amp eq and bluey Compressor regretted it at first until really figured out the silk it's irreplaceable and eq is easy to use once you get used to it and now I don't regret not going 1073 that modern clean sound of 5211 is amazing especially when you can dirty it up to your liking
@@taylamaydegood times! Rupert Neve has stated in interviews that his goal was always to have a clean capture of a source. The idea of dirtying it up didn't happen until engineers requested it. His work with Amek was when the idea of saturation after clean capture began.
First off, I am glad you have a great product that is delivering the sound you want. Rupert Neve Designs makes great gear. Did you however have any problem with not having an attack time you could control, no HP or LP filters, and just two EQ freq's for low and high's. This could make it a challenge for each track to have its own space and be heard as they could be sharing the same boost freqs.? Of course you could add a plug in EQ and compressor to get the results you want.
The Newton is the channel strip everyone should own in 2024. Dead simple to operate, there’s no setting that sounds terrible (though of course you can over-do it in context), and it sounds great. I only have two complaints for my use case. I don’t like the power button on the back, and I do wish I could have had two inputs instead of one combo so that I could more easily patch either line or mic into it. As is, I have to pull another spot on my patch bay and move mic in to line in.
Got two of these for my high- end karaoke system. The vocals sound like butter is melting in your ears. Speakers are LD Maui 28 g3. Had Bose L1 pro32 they’re junk, no mid , got rid off it.
This sounds fantastic. THIS is what I love about h/w. I don't have much as I used to here save for a pair of fantastic JLM PEQ500s but I can crank say, 8k and it never sounds "bad" per se, where most plug ins will start getting crunchy with artifacts. It will just sound like too much 8k lol. When you dimed the gain on those mid bands, it was more or less the same thing. This unit sounds fantastic and kudos to RND and a nuice demo, Colt
Channel strips are pretty cool. Been using a Neve Shelford for my minimoog and di guitars. The compressor and silk saturation give guitars a "finished" amp like quality. Neat workflow 👌
Everything you pumped into it sounds killer. I think i liked the Q on it. I don't now if i agree! but would need some time to play with it. So your prob right. I would like to have to.. Dont know why but i think they would sound killer on the MB... Stay Safe..
Awesome video as always, thanks @ColtCapperrune - Leaves me with a question though, since I've watched both your videos about these products now and have seen them in your racks as keepers in your other recent videos, lol: SPL Channel One Mk3 or this RND Newton, primarily for characterful male (rock/indie) vocals? Also, was your SPL Ch1 mk3 the deluxe version that has the Lundhal I/O transformers? I'd assume those would give it more character/weight/color than the standard version, yeah? And while I've got you...let's throw the Soyuz Lakeside into the mix (not a channel strip, but hey). Thoughts if you could only buy one to outfit a "Studio C" ? I've already got a lot of nice mics, monitoring, professional sound treatment etc., but have been using my Apollo X8p and the UAD plugins to simulate nice rack gear on my vocal channels up to this point (recording into Logic). Thanks for any advice since you've spent some time with these - cheers!
Excellent video again Colt! I love the silk features on the Neve stuff. I use a Neve 5057 Orbit on my mix buss and whether I am summing or not I do use blue silk most of the time!
@@Gang-25j I am always running through at least the first two inputs of the sixteen on the Orbit on my mix buss even if I am not summing. I do this just for the silk at minimum.
I hesitate between this RND Newtone channel, the Manley Core, the UAD 6176 or a Neve 1073 SPX coupled with a Warm Audio WA-2A for my next vocal chain, what you guys think?
I would avoid Warm Audio. They make affordable gear but quality control is questionable and parts are cheap. Rupert Neve formed RND for a reason... to ensure his vision at every stage of production so I would take RND over "Neve" at this point. So its a toss up between the RND, UA6176, and Manley Core. All 3 are exceptional companies. I own a Shelford but the Newton looks pretty nice at that price point. However, so does the UA and Manley. I don`t think you can go wrong with any of those 3.
Depends on what you’re doing. I have the 1073 SPX and Newton. I like the Newton for modern sounding vocals. It’s super clean and very polished. The 1073 is also great but if it’s for singing and performance. IMO. But if it’s that nice modern vocal sound that’s natural, I think the newton gives that more so and the 1073 gives a nice thick high definition and very detailed sound, which is part of why I don’t prefer the 1073 for voice overs personally, I prefer the newton for that. The EQ on 1073 compared to the newton is the 1073 seems like it’s a wider broad movement whereas the newton is more subtle but powerful , and super clean. As for music, both will be awesome and Both units sound 100000% phenomenal in their own right.
I have purchased a shelford channel last month and am still amazed how musical this unit is and how much fun to use. Honestly on guitar cabs (sm57 Mesa 412 from early 2000s) and my vocals (Manley Ref C) the BAE 1066D I tested this against sounded a fraction of a percent better, but I failed like 30%of blind test and in the other 30% I could tell them apart but liked the BAE better and in the Rest I liked either the shelford better or didn’t care. The BAE is the tiniest tad smoother and creamier but the shelfords versatility to to a multitude of jobs fantastically and the modern user interface and ergonomics with all kinds of clipping leds and meters and dual tap output took the win for the shelford. If you are curious you might want to follow me for a comparison soon!
@@lenmusic123 I don't have a newton. But I still can give you a good estimation: In terms of the preamp only; the Newton will sound like any portico or 5211, so any comparison between a Shelford and a portico still applies. The Shelford has an input transformer and the Newton not. This is where most of the price difference comes from. It seems ridiculous as the 5025 Dual Shelford costs twice as much as the 5211 Dual Portico Pre and only input transformers and different meters (the ones with the needle like on a compressor) make it different BUT!!!!! Rupert spent years or decades researching and designing the new input transformer so there went a lot of effort into it and I understand that that increases the "value" and the amount of money they want to be compensated for the efforts. The shelford will sound a little softer and smoother with the input trannie and a little more colored and vintage Neve-ish. That being said it still sounds cleaner, tighter and a little more modern and open than any vintage Neve, especially BAE or even Vintech and the more expensive handmade Heritage Stuff (opposed to their more affordable Elite Series The Newton can sound even crisper, more open, clean and transparent than the shelford, but it cannot sound as vintage. They still can BOTH cover a big range from clean to colored, modern to vintage with a big overlap in the sounds they can create. Only on the extreme ends they slightly deviate from another. In terms of the EQ and compressor they are quite different, with the shelford having and inductor and a diode bridge that both will add more weight and color to the sound but at the loss of transparency. The EQ on the Newton is cleaner for sure and the mid band is sweepable which is very practical. The compressor on the Newton is extremely versatile and will work on anything very well, while the diode bridge will on a lot of sources ok-ish, it never sounds bad but it has also never amazed me to the point of being my absolute number 1 choice if I had all options in the world. I wanted to have the vintage Neve sound at home with the option for more transparency and that's why the shelford is the better match for me.
New gear arrived, I see your rack is tight, do you think spacing units is a good idea for heat disapation? Same question regarding the Shelford if you have used those Thanks
They sound very warm and really fit that older sound. I have older SSL Alpha Channel, and I was a bigger fan of SSL compared to Neve back in the day, but Neve console pieces sound very full and rich. SSL is very precise and transients are sharp, great for stacatto rap vocals, but for richness Never takes the cake.
Yeah Baby!!! I am a big fan of Neve channel strips. I have a pair of Purepath C.I.B.'s and a pair of 8801's. People on certain website always dismiss the compressors on channel strips but they are totally awesome. Boy I would love a pair of these!!
It's a nice unit for the $ for TWO!!! compared to my "SHELFORD CHANNEL" I wish I had another for Stereo but mine was around $4K OTD ..Crazy :) Two "SHELFORD CHANNEL" I feel that much better but WAY Expensive. I love that they have the -6dB Output to Drive for DAW. THe EQ's are Very NICE !!!
I am not sure if I should buy the Mbt or 2 of these newton channels, I have the Mbp and coil pre’s, and capi heider pre’s with api 550a,s any suggestions?
I would and I like the vintage sound of 1073 but you can add your vintage flavor with silk and Choi e how you want it or keep it very modern with 5211 preamp
i really want a channel strip but they are TOO EXPENSIVE in Türkiye. minimum vage in türkiye is 11.600₺ BUT a single SSL The bus+ compressor is 94.000₺. single analog eq is minimum 70.000₺ we cannot buy any of these as music producers living in türkiye. it is literally just a dream for us to see any of the analog gears
I wonder what the real diffrence beside price between this and the shelford channel strip or the 8801 strip. im a hip hip producer so beside a 8816 for summing, i couldnt afford a neve designs portico. Im looking for 2 channel strips for a stereo out from my drum machine like mpc or sp1200 before i print it . I wanna shoot one channel strip out agianst my 1073, optical comp, pultec clone, vocal chain, maybe save money by selling it. Also i read the 8801 had a digital conveter but i dont understand how that works.
I own a Shelford... The Newton is a slimmed down version. The pre amp, EQ, Compressor, and texture stage are all present but less control in each module.
Thanks for this video. I absolutely loved the demo section! I was wondering about these when they came out...I'm sold now.....And I saw that you have 2...run your signal through both one on red and one on blue....simultaneous silk solved! LOL
I have ssl xrack eq’s and compressors, I would mix and match the SSL eq and com with the Newton pre and silk circuits..I am Salivating at the mouth just thinking about the possibilities👍🏻😌
I already have one and thinking of buying another unit in order to use them for mixbus duties ? Is it worth it … buying the RND MBT would be wayyy more expensive…
This looks interesting 🫡🔥fire video as always ! But this might be a stupid question but ayyoooo I can mix with the preamp right ? Is it okay to mix with a preamp in the hardware chain !? Do you just keep the 48v off when you do it ? Or just don’t turn the preamp knob up or what ? Cus I see the trim is used not the Preamp knob tho .. Nobody ever answers this question ever lol
I already have a Shelford Channel. Seeing this video makes me wanna get another one. To me, the Newton has too many limitations. Nice strip though. Question. In your Patreon membership. Do you have any vocals that you mixed with the Newton and fx like reverb and delay?
what you see like limitation & difference ? compare it a bit. I am intresting to hear. I am ask mine self "is shelfod double better"? since price is like double
@@CHILE_TZ Concerning the Newton No DI, no Thru, no Inductor EQ, no Diode Bridge Compressor, no compressor blend, no LF peak, no HF peak, no MID hiQ, ±3 dB less boost/cut on the eq, no HPF to sidechain control, no ratio control, no SC insert control, no link toggle.
What's the difference between this and The Shelford Channel? It looks like a cheaper version. I never hear about people using The Shelford Channel, Curious?
So it’s a completely different preamp. And a VCA compressor, which is a completely different design than the Shelford channel. It’s not meant to be a budget version, but a completely new product. Hope that helps!
@@ColtCapperrune Thanks Colt. I've never been a fan of channel strips either. This would be cool to have a couple for a different flavor, but they are still limiting.
Thanks for the review, I like the guitar demo. "Robo-Cowboy" vocal part though ..he's indeed lost _something_ essential to his humanity, that's for sure. He's "found" a Trashville cliche instead.
Whenever I see such great gear and then think 'okay, let's check the price' Tthen I think: okay, def. not cheap, but somehow managable. Until I realize: damn, I would need two of them.
Totally agree. My friend wants a Newton. I told him to add another $1000 and get a used Shelford off Reverb for $3000. I have a Shelford and to me, the Newton has too many limitations.
@@dspoet1 I head also Shelford have limitations, expecialy in EQ . You dont have all freqency band. Looks like 3 band is not enough. Some people say if it work -it work (talking about EQ). High band is only 8k or 16k button. Seems limited
@@CHILE_TZ When Rupert Neve was designing the Shelford, he surveyed a lot of mix engineers and asked them about the eq frequencies they boost and cut the most. The eq notches on Shelfford are the frequencies they came up with. I wouldn’t call that a limitation.
You said you wish you could have red and blue silk at same time… why not try running your first Chanel into the second unit, bypass eq and comp use the red and blue parallel? I’d like to hear that lol
I’d actually be quite interested in hearing demos of stuff that you didn’t think sounded good, lol. Not to trash anybody, but actually learning to hear the difference between bad and good would be instructive. So many gear reviews, like yeah, that sounds good, that sounds good too, it all sounds good. What does not good actually sound like?
So for me, personally, it comes down to whether or not I would put some thing on a record that is actually getting released. I’ve carefully curated my collection of hardware, and a piece of gear has to sound, at least as good as what I’m already using, otherwise I’m not going to start putting it on records, which means I’m not going to make a video on it. Hope that makes sense!
Hey C Would you say this has a 1073 vibe?? Just ordered 2 but now not so sure since watching a few reviews claiming it’s not a 1073 I just assumed being a neve they would lean towards the 1073 Talk to me brother
What are your thoughts?? I’m pumped on these!
Yeaaaaa so I’m buying two of these. Maybe four. Can’t believe how good these are sounding! Damn!
I have actually been waiting for something like this for my little part time project studio. It seems perfect. Thanks for the demo!
A comparison with the Manley core would be awesome especially focused on Vocals
I follow you on another channel, but I follow you for interest on this one. I hope to have studios in every Peapod center which I anticipate to be in 4000 locations all over the world. I watch -- and I learn from you and others. My anticipation is to find in every culture and micro culture throughout the world… voices of others, in a (1) cultural preservation and (2) community building and (3) independent wealth builder of participants.
Kind of interested to see what red and blue silk would sound like in a daisy chain... ;)
Sounds like butter!
Great demo Colt. Usually with engineers on RUclips, when as a fan you're playing back on a laptop without decent cans or speakers, it's pretty hard to appreciate the difference properly if they just hit bypass (and usually hitting it at a phrase change so it's even harder). Just playing with the pots like you do here is extremely helpful, going to the extremes like an engineer would in the studio, then showing where your sweet spot is in your mix. Thanks!
That channel strip is top shelf stuff for sure. Happy to see Shawn on your channel, been a fan of his demos for many years. What a magnificent guitar playing machine he is.
id really love to see these in an actual 6 channel desk similar to what SLL has done with the big 6, 6 of these with a monitor section and some faders would be dreamy for most project studios nowadays
SSL?
Solid State Logic@@VersatyleMusicGroup
I have the Neve 542, and the Silk is real 😂😂. I just love its a unachievable sound with a plugin, its just too good sounding.
The RND stuff is just so great and is very hard to beat. Their MBP just adds so much awesome to my mixes.
I love how it pushed the track forward so much. Absolutely amazing 🎉
Man you moved that mid down to 220 during the demo vocal and my heart melted. Amazing
Brother, welcome back! Your back at you positivity state. Eventually everything is going to be good no matter the obstacles! All the best to you!
Christ is King!
It is good to see you in better spirits.
I’m working hard to get back on track, thank you so much.
You CAN have both Red & Blue Silk if you have the patience to process one track at a time back to your DAW. I’ve never had a problem with running the output of a hi quality processor back into another one if you watch your gain properly. So just take the output of your first Newton into the input of your second Newton. Now you can make the first Newton “Red” and the second one “Blue”. You can also dial in some different EQ points on the second Newton. Regarding price - yes, not inexpensive but when you consider that you are getting outstanding A/D convertors, Neve Preamp, EQ, AND a Good compressor thrown in !?!? Wow. Just Wow!
I would be interested on your opinion of gear you don't recommend videos. I still think it helps.. love your channel
think you just convinced me to snatch this up. I’ve been debating on what i wanted to be my first piece of outboard gear and this will work beautifully as a starting piece. Great video!
Same here!
I bought one the first day he uploaded the video I was sold I swot he'd from seperate pre amp eq and bluey Compressor regretted it at first until really figured out the silk it's irreplaceable and eq is easy to use once you get used to it and now I don't regret not going 1073 that modern clean sound of 5211 is amazing especially when you can dirty it up to your liking
@@taylamaydegood times! Rupert Neve has stated in interviews that his goal was always to have a clean capture of a source. The idea of dirtying it up didn't happen until engineers requested it. His work with Amek was when the idea of saturation after clean capture began.
First off, I am glad you have a great product that is delivering the sound you want. Rupert Neve Designs makes great gear. Did you however have any problem with not having an attack time you could control, no HP or LP filters, and just two EQ freq's for low and high's. This could make it a challenge for each track to have its own space and be heard as they could be sharing the same boost freqs.? Of course you could add a plug in EQ and compressor to get the results you want.
I love my Shelford total game changer !!!
It’s pretty incredible how even the extreme EQ movements are really musical and sweet.
Im so impressed by everything RND. You could literally turn everything to 11 and it just sounds killer.
Are These vocals recorded with the newton? And which mic? Very nice vocals from the get go
The Newton is the channel strip everyone should own in 2024. Dead simple to operate, there’s no setting that sounds terrible (though of course you can over-do it in context), and it sounds great. I only have two complaints for my use case. I don’t like the power button on the back, and I do wish I could have had two inputs instead of one combo so that I could more easily patch either line or mic into it. As is, I have to pull another spot on my patch bay and move mic in to line in.
I have a Neve 1073SPX. If I add a Distressor comp would that not make an awesome channel strip?
neve is just magical
Got two of these for my high- end karaoke system. The vocals sound like butter is melting in your ears.
Speakers are LD Maui 28 g3.
Had Bose L1 pro32 they’re junk, no mid , got rid off it.
I've often wished for a silk "purple" mode of both red and blue combined on my 542 pair. RND gear is as nice as it gets, I think!
Re-amp the track and get your purple drank on!
Awesome video Colt. Love Rupert Neve equipment. Expensive but worth it.
Thanks for watching!
I’m SO glad you did this Review! Took me over the line. I’m getting it
Colt, that’s the best I’ve ever heard you do!
I don't know much yet about audio engineering gears,
but I know Scheps and Capperrune love Neve. 😎
Awesome! Sadly, out of my budget though. Great to see the Canadian made Revv amp!
Wow, nice demo. The unit just makes things sound 'relaxing' to listen to.
This sounds fantastic. THIS is what I love about h/w. I don't have much as I used to here save for a pair of fantastic JLM PEQ500s but I can crank say, 8k and it never sounds "bad" per se, where most plug ins will start getting crunchy with artifacts. It will just sound like too much 8k lol. When you dimed the gain on those mid bands, it was more or less the same thing. This unit sounds fantastic and kudos to RND and a nuice demo, Colt
Channel strips are pretty cool. Been using a Neve Shelford for my minimoog and di guitars. The compressor and silk saturation give guitars a "finished" amp like quality. Neat workflow 👌
what was your previous vocal chain that the newton beat out? Also, how do you compare the Newton vs BAE 1073? Which would you recommend? thanks
Everything you pumped into it sounds killer. I think i liked the Q on it. I don't now if i agree! but would need some time to play with it. So your prob right. I would like to have to.. Dont know why but i think they would sound killer on the MB... Stay Safe..
Sounds so good on kick & snare! *.*
Awesome video as always, thanks @ColtCapperrune - Leaves me with a question though, since I've watched both your videos about these products now and have seen them in your racks as keepers in your other recent videos, lol: SPL Channel One Mk3 or this RND Newton, primarily for characterful male (rock/indie) vocals? Also, was your SPL Ch1 mk3 the deluxe version that has the Lundhal I/O transformers? I'd assume those would give it more character/weight/color than the standard version, yeah? And while I've got you...let's throw the Soyuz Lakeside into the mix (not a channel strip, but hey). Thoughts if you could only buy one to outfit a "Studio C" ? I've already got a lot of nice mics, monitoring, professional sound treatment etc., but have been using my Apollo X8p and the UAD plugins to simulate nice rack gear on my vocal channels up to this point (recording into Logic). Thanks for any advice since you've spent some time with these - cheers!
What it did for that snare is what impressed me most. Sheesh!!!!!
Excellent video again Colt! I love the silk features on the Neve stuff. I use a Neve 5057 Orbit on my mix buss and whether I am summing or not I do use blue silk most of the time!
So if you are summing then how are you affecting the audio if it isn’t ran through orbit?
@@Gang-25j I am always running through at least the first two inputs of the sixteen on the Orbit on my mix buss even if I am not summing. I do this just for the silk at minimum.
it is insane on the snare drum!
well ! Buying this unit just for snare drums would be justified. Merci pour cette excellente démo.
I hesitate between this RND Newtone channel, the Manley Core, the UAD 6176 or a Neve 1073 SPX coupled with a Warm Audio WA-2A for my next vocal chain, what you guys think?
I would avoid Warm Audio. They make affordable gear but quality control is questionable and parts are cheap. Rupert Neve formed RND for a reason... to ensure his vision at every stage of production so I would take RND over "Neve" at this point. So its a toss up between the RND, UA6176, and Manley Core. All 3 are exceptional companies. I own a Shelford but the Newton looks pretty nice at that price point. However, so does the UA and Manley. I don`t think you can go wrong with any of those 3.
@@ernestbuckley8671 thanks bro 🙏🏻
Depends on what you’re doing. I have the 1073 SPX and Newton.
I like the Newton for modern sounding vocals. It’s super clean and very polished.
The 1073 is also great but if it’s for singing and performance. IMO. But if it’s that nice modern vocal sound that’s natural, I think the newton gives that more so and the 1073 gives a nice thick high definition and very detailed sound, which is part of why I don’t prefer the 1073 for voice overs personally, I prefer the newton for that.
The EQ on 1073 compared to the newton is the 1073 seems like it’s a wider broad movement whereas the newton is more subtle but powerful , and super clean.
As for music, both will be awesome and Both units sound 100000% phenomenal in their own right.
Love the tone on everything... Drums sounded bad ass!!
I have purchased a shelford channel last month and am still amazed how musical this unit is and how much fun to use. Honestly on guitar cabs (sm57 Mesa 412 from early 2000s) and my vocals (Manley Ref C) the BAE 1066D I tested this against sounded a fraction of a percent better, but I failed like 30%of blind test and in the other 30% I could tell them apart but liked the BAE better and in the Rest I liked either the shelford better or didn’t care.
The BAE is the tiniest tad smoother and creamier but the shelfords versatility to to a multitude of jobs fantastically and the modern user interface and ergonomics with all kinds of clipping leds and meters and dual tap output took the win for the shelford. If you are curious you might want to follow me for a comparison soon!
Curious going to follow you for comparison
How does this unit (Newton) compare with your Shelfords?
@@lenmusic123 I don't have a newton. But I still can give you a good estimation: In terms of the preamp only; the Newton will sound like any portico or 5211, so any comparison between a Shelford and a portico still applies. The Shelford has an input transformer and the Newton not. This is where most of the price difference comes from. It seems ridiculous as the 5025 Dual Shelford costs twice as much as the 5211 Dual Portico Pre and only input transformers and different meters (the ones with the needle like on a compressor) make it different BUT!!!!! Rupert spent years or decades researching and designing the new input transformer so there went a lot of effort into it and I understand that that increases the "value" and the amount of money they want to be compensated for the efforts.
The shelford will sound a little softer and smoother with the input trannie and a little more colored and vintage Neve-ish. That being said it still sounds cleaner, tighter and a little more modern and open than any vintage Neve, especially BAE or even Vintech and the more expensive handmade Heritage Stuff (opposed to their more affordable Elite Series
The Newton can sound even crisper, more open, clean and transparent than the shelford, but it cannot sound as vintage.
They still can BOTH cover a big range from clean to colored, modern to vintage with a big overlap in the sounds they can create. Only on the extreme ends they slightly deviate from another.
In terms of the EQ and compressor they are quite different, with the shelford having and inductor and a diode bridge that both will add more weight and color to the sound but at the loss of transparency.
The EQ on the Newton is cleaner for sure and the mid band is sweepable which is very practical.
The compressor on the Newton is extremely versatile and will work on anything very well, while the diode bridge will on a lot of sources ok-ish, it never sounds bad but it has also never amazed me to the point of being my absolute number 1 choice if I had all options in the world.
I wanted to have the vintage Neve sound at home with the option for more transparency and that's why the shelford is the better match for me.
So we're u ever going to drop that comparison?
That’s a very good price for this. I should add two of them into my console. Thank u for the review Colt. U Rock!
I could literally buy a house if I got these strips for my drums
Gonna need a video on that red beauty in the desk 😍
It's a good idea to wire a good preamp, a good EQ, a good compressor, etc. Best of each.
New gear arrived, I see your rack is tight, do you think spacing units is a good idea for heat disapation?
Same question regarding the Shelford if you have used those
Thanks
RN always delivers!
They sound very warm and really fit that older sound. I have older SSL Alpha Channel, and I was a bigger fan of SSL compared to Neve back in the day, but Neve console pieces sound very full and rich.
SSL is very precise and transients are sharp, great for stacatto rap vocals, but for richness Never takes the cake.
We had an alpha channel in our studio too, but my engineer never loved it
Yeah Baby!!! I am a big fan of Neve channel strips. I have a pair of Purepath C.I.B.'s and a pair of 8801's. People on certain website always dismiss the compressors on channel strips but they are totally awesome. Boy I would love a pair of these!!
What are your thoughts on the 8801
@@mixedbyv I love it, just sounds like a console. And it has epic comp/expansion stuff
Is possible to use the neve direct box with this newton channel?
So what are the sonic differences between the Newton Channel strip and the Shelford Channel strip?
Awsome production
That sound bonkers on snare
Yea man!
Great demo. They sent these to the right person! :-) Looks like these would be great on ribbon mics.
The drums seem to have ribbon mics for overheads.
What mic did you use on vocals? Sounds amazing in conjunction with the Newton.
It's a nice unit for the $ for TWO!!! compared to my "SHELFORD CHANNEL" I wish I had another for Stereo but mine was around $4K OTD ..Crazy :) Two "SHELFORD CHANNEL" I feel that much better but WAY Expensive. I love that they have the -6dB Output to Drive for DAW. THe EQ's are Very NICE !!!
I am not sure if I should buy the Mbt or 2 of these newton channels, I have the Mbp and coil pre’s, and capi heider pre’s with api 550a,s any suggestions?
Would you take a Newton Channel over a Neve 1073?
Yup
I would and I like the vintage sound of 1073 but you can add your vintage flavor with silk and Choi e how you want it or keep it very modern with 5211 preamp
Second to ssl 4000 stuff, I think rnd is the way to go!
i really want a channel strip but they are TOO EXPENSIVE in Türkiye. minimum vage in türkiye is 11.600₺ BUT a single SSL The bus+ compressor is 94.000₺. single analog eq is minimum 70.000₺
we cannot buy any of these as music producers living in türkiye. it is literally just a dream for us to see any of the analog gears
Wow…. That’s so unfortunate… I’m sorry
I wonder what the real diffrence beside price between this and the shelford channel strip or the 8801 strip. im a hip hip producer so beside a 8816 for summing, i couldnt afford a neve designs portico. Im looking for 2 channel strips for a stereo out from my drum machine like mpc or sp1200 before i print it . I wanna shoot one channel strip out agianst my 1073, optical comp, pultec clone, vocal chain, maybe save money by selling it. Also i read the 8801 had a digital conveter but i dont understand how that works.
Im guessing you can use a pair for stereo signals? (I don't own any analog gear ((clearly)))
How do you feel it compares to the Shelford? The Newton is half as expensive, but is it half as good?
I own a Shelford... The Newton is a slimmed down version. The pre amp, EQ, Compressor, and texture stage are all present but less control in each module.
It seems pretty nice. I liked the acoustic guitar much better before the processing, though.
Yeah sounds tremendous. Really easy on the ears. That's what I'm looking for on my vocal tracks. Man those Drums were so warm and juicy. Lauten mic?
Thanks for this video. I absolutely loved the demo section! I was wondering about these when they came out...I'm sold now.....And I saw that you have 2...run your signal through both one on red and one on blue....simultaneous silk solved! LOL
Hahaha why didn’t I think of that?!
and notch out some frequencies with one and boost with other
What happened to the Shelford Channel?
great video and super useful to see you using them
I have ssl xrack eq’s and compressors, I would mix and match the SSL eq and com with the Newton pre and silk circuits..I am Salivating at the mouth just thinking about the possibilities👍🏻😌
I already have one and thinking of buying another unit in order to use them for mixbus duties ? Is it worth it … buying the RND MBT would be wayyy more expensive…
A compressor without variable attack time…just curious for what that unit is made for? A vocal chain or more a chain for instruments ?
Do you still use it today in your productions ?
How did he mix the recorded vocals while using the channel strip? Please Help
I wonder if you can help me are Channel Strips only meant for non electronic music, as in do they have any use in making Electronic Music?
This looks interesting 🫡🔥fire video as always ! But this might be a stupid question but ayyoooo I can mix with the preamp right ? Is it okay to mix with a preamp in the hardware chain !? Do you just keep the 48v off when you do it ? Or just don’t turn the preamp knob up or what ? Cus I see the trim is used not the Preamp knob tho .. Nobody ever answers this question ever lol
I already have a Shelford Channel. Seeing this video makes me wanna get another one. To me, the Newton has too many limitations. Nice strip though.
Question. In your Patreon membership. Do you have any vocals that you mixed with the Newton and fx like reverb and delay?
what you see like limitation & difference ? compare it a bit. I am intresting to hear. I am ask mine self "is shelfod double better"? since price is like double
@@CHILE_TZ
Concerning the Newton
No DI, no Thru, no Inductor EQ, no Diode Bridge Compressor, no compressor blend, no LF peak, no HF peak, no MID hiQ, ±3 dB less boost/cut on the eq, no HPF to sidechain control, no ratio control, no SC insert control, no link toggle.
I am wonder what would be your opinion on Shelford channel? He is double expensive but a more color and vingage
Silk red and blue together in series, set one unit flat and run one red into one blue!
Mmmm that high pass plus low boost is nice
What's the difference between this and The Shelford Channel? It looks like a cheaper version. I never hear about people using The Shelford Channel, Curious?
So it’s a completely different preamp. And a VCA compressor, which is a completely different design than the Shelford channel. It’s not meant to be a budget version, but a completely new product. Hope that helps!
@@ColtCapperrune Thanks Colt. I've never been a fan of channel strips either. This would be cool to have a couple for a different flavor, but they are still limiting.
@@ColtCapperruneColt have you personally used the Shelford? Torn between getting 1 Shelford or 2 Newton lol
The only atrips I would buy is a neve strip, it's like a new hot sauce you discover. Yes I have Tabasco and Louisiana but this here...saaaaauuuce
I'm curious about the difference between Shelford and newton
I love my Avalon vt737sp black plate edition (the BabyFace edition). That channel strip sounds nice
That’s a good one as well!
Thanks for the review, I like the guitar demo.
"Robo-Cowboy" vocal part though ..he's indeed lost _something_ essential to his humanity, that's for sure. He's "found" a Trashville cliche instead.
hey @ColtCapperrune lights used in frames link plz?
Whenever I see such great gear and then think 'okay, let's check the price'
Tthen I think: okay, def. not cheap, but somehow managable.
Until I realize: damn, I would need two of them.
Sub'd...my guy said he sends gear back. 🤘🏽🙏🏾
Shelford Channels> Newton Channels, they're worth the extra money for all of the extra versatility!
Shelford = BIG $$
@@tekis0 You get what you pay for. Buy once, cry once!
Totally agree. My friend wants a Newton. I told him to add another $1000 and get a used Shelford off Reverb for $3000. I have a Shelford and to me, the Newton has too many limitations.
@@dspoet1 I head also Shelford have limitations, expecialy in EQ . You dont have all freqency band. Looks like 3 band is not enough. Some people say if it work -it work (talking about EQ). High band is only 8k or 16k button. Seems limited
@@CHILE_TZ When Rupert Neve was designing the Shelford, he surveyed a lot of mix engineers and asked them about the eq frequencies they boost and cut the most. The eq notches on Shelfford are the frequencies they came up with. I wouldn’t call that a limitation.
You said you wish you could have red and blue silk at same time… why not try running your first Chanel into the second unit, bypass eq and comp use the red and blue parallel? I’d like to hear that lol
Haha… I should have read the comments before I commented I suppose lol
I NEEED ITTT
hey brother Im not seeing the Andrew Masters link
I’ll put it in there. I originally said I would put links to Clayton Shay below. But I should put Andrew and Shawn Tubbs in there as well. Thanks!
Wait, before I even begin watching… can you stereo link these?
Yup!
I’d actually be quite interested in hearing demos of stuff that you didn’t think sounded good, lol. Not to trash anybody, but actually learning to hear the difference between bad and good would be instructive. So many gear reviews, like yeah, that sounds good, that sounds good too, it all sounds good. What does not good actually sound like?
So for me, personally, it comes down to whether or not I would put some thing on a record that is actually getting released. I’ve carefully curated my collection of hardware, and a piece of gear has to sound, at least as good as what I’m already using, otherwise I’m not going to start putting it on records, which means I’m not going to make a video on it. Hope that makes sense!
would you choose this over shelford?
Only for the price difference. Shelford is better in so many ways.
You said you wished you could use red and blue silk together… could you not split that vocal out to 2 Newtons and blend/sum it back in?
whats the song at the 9 min mark
“Losing it” by Clayton Shay. Out July 28. Produced and mixed by yours truly
Hey C
Would you say this has a 1073 vibe??
Just ordered 2 but now not so sure since watching a few reviews claiming it’s not a 1073
I just assumed being a neve they would lean towards the 1073
Talk to me brother
I wonder how different it would sound from the Shelford channel they released a few years ago
Rupert Neve. No further explanation needed.