H&K MR308 A3
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024
- Larry gets his hands on the extremely rare H&K MR308 A3, an updated civilian version of the HK 417.
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I picked one up yesterday. It is of perfect design and very well made. Ran it on the range. Tight groups at 100m. Greetings from Germany
My MR 308 A28 witht he 20" barrel is the most accurate rifle i own.
Was für einen Schein braucht man denn um das in Deutschland kaufen zu können?
@@999racing in D gibt es dazu mehrere Möglichkeiten. Wirf mal einen Blick ins WaffG. Grüsse
It’s Keymod, that’s a no go, at least in America
My German brethren, I am extremely envious.
Respect for your service and experience Larry! You are the best bro!
Could care less about key mod I’ve never seen a .308 shoot this smoothly I was expecting a lot of jump and push this was very well made and fits today’s style of combat... Good job Heck...
HK uses so many proprietary parts I'm surprised they're still using 1913 rails...
They actually use 1319 rails now.....
Actually, it's probably a rail according to STANAG 4694 spec, which is slightly different to Picatinny but backwards compatible.
HK is the Apple of the gun world. Steve Jobs era Apple of course.
Julian Johnson 😂
Let me tell you about PCAP....
A nice compact .308 with 2-3 times if not more lifetime compared to "similar" builds. Therfore actually cheaper priced for a much better product.
HK is perfection for those who understand what they offer you.
>Pay $3500 for the newest latest and greatest HK rifle
>Still get dickmod
not just the dongmod, the REVERSE Dongmod
That's gonna cost you a bunch more than $3500 LOL!!!
@C-Bomb There can be 308 AR10s that are actually worth the 3.5k asking price
those included blackjack and hookers
yep, that is an awfully short barrel for .308
I’d never pay that they’re crazy
That is nice. HK operating in the red, doesn’t have to be that way if they’d update the civilian American market with stuff like this.
Their guns are nice but way too expensive
I believe the German government are to blame and that HK would love to sell more stuff to US civilians.
@@GretchentheAlligator exactly. Why pay $3,000 for a rifle when you can have a perfectly good patrol/duty rifle that you can bet your life on for half that, sometimes even less. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to own some HK stuff, if I had disposable income.
@cantquit1109
1) HK wanted to export to the US but Clinton and Bush senior threw big wrenches into their works.
2) There are problems at HK, driving them into the red:
-The old managment is going to retire soon and the guys they have brought in to replace them still think that the weapons industry is like the car industry (from which they stem). So they try to turn the weapons manufacture into something akin to the car production (aka they are rebuilding the damn plant&factory, which is an insane money sink).
-There are fewer and fewer people who get a weapons maker license in Germany. That is not only due to the insanely small salaray such people earn in Germany but also because it is kind of illegal. German law states that the manufacture of weapons of war (and HK products are classes as such) is illegal in Germany and anyone who violates that law can be jailed up to two years. So far the goverment has chosen not to enforce that law but has used it as a tool against weapons manufacturers on several occasions. No one wants to work with such a damocles sword hanging above them. So getting new workers has proven to something of a problem. The HK plant in Oberndorf has around 800 people working there but could take a compliment of 1200 people for full production.
3) The situation in Baden-Würrtemberg (where HK is located) is kinda problematic: it has been under Green goverment and these guys have a hateboner for HK and have blocked them on every turn. HK wanted to build better infrastructure for their main plant (if you have ever been in Oberndorf - the plant is like 5km up a steep mountainside from the trainstation and main road of Oberndorf. HK wanted to build better infrastructure and got blocked.) That is not good for the company, because you only can realy work for them if you have a car, since public transportation there is so bad.
4) The whole shit thing of the German goverment creating the so called G36 scandal, which turned out to be a big nothing burger, damaged the rep HK had with the public and they get to feel the heat of that as well. Furthermore the goverment officially is limiting the sale of small arms and other weapons to other nations (well they say they do but vehicles get sold anyway... while they try to enforce the limit of sales on small arms [and fail due to lobbyists but that is not a good look for HK either. Not after the whole Mexico thing]).
5) HK can't manouvre freely because it is not known who controlls the majority of the stock. Though it is roumored that the German goverment actually holds a lot of HK stock and thus can jerk them around even more. But that is just a rumor. Anyways: whoever holds the majority of the stock has been jerking HKs leash realy hard and made some seriously bad decisions in the last couple of years.
So yeah - more engagement on US civilian market would fill the orders up even more, but that would not solve the problems back at home. Get rid of those and then we can talk. As much as I love HK (I grew up near Oberndorf) I fear they will go belly up - at least in Europe and then try to migrate over to the US for good. If that will save them or if that move even will be allowed I don't know. No matter what happens: it will be bad for the region. HK has 800 people working on site and at least another 4000 in other companies that supply the Oberndorf plant. That makes it one of the biggest providers of workplaces in the region.
@@mariuslorson751 Yanked around by arrogant fatcats and spiteful politicos, why am I not surprised. Such people are truly ruining the world for everyone.
Gotta love the .308 and 7.62x51mm. Those rounds have some authority. Great video Larry.
Yup. Went shooting with my buddies after I picked up my first ar10 and they all had ar15’s. I told them yeah I got an ar10 and they were like don’t ya mean 15?? I said no sir. This is .308 not those bb’s you got in your ar15. Anyways we were shooting at some watermelons and their 5.56’s were chipping pieces off and when I finally had a turn my .308 turned the watermelons into mist and chunks went everywhere. They were like damn that’s a real bullet lol I’ll never go back. And we were shooting tannerite too my .308 would blow it up even if it barely grazed the container of tannerite but the 5.56’s wouldn’t ignite it unless it was dead center.
Lol proprietary key mod. They couldn’t have made a worse choice.
Literally the dumbest decision.
MikeCharlieAlpha well it’s German.
People who have the money to get an HK wont care to spend money on expensive attachements. My take on it...
Smart for them, and dont worry you wont get your hands on one of these for a while.
Lll im guessinh most ppl whp dish out the $$ for this will buy whatever aftermarket rail syatem they desire/need
Weasle why is keymod worse than mlock?
Larry good video idea, BCM compared to a standard Colt 6920
I also want to add it’s funny that keymod came out a few years ago, but that lockup has been around for decades for industrial storage racks
Industrial storage racks, L-O-L
1:06 so khajit could buy this gun on elsyweyr, interesting
Hahaha stop
I wonder if anyone else will understand what is being referenced here.
@S It's in a book.
HK has gun, if Khajit has coin?
This one does not understand the reference. May Jone and Jode watch over you
As i said in another comment: The MR308 G3-A28 (20" barrel the civilian version of the Bundeswehr DMR) is the most accurate weapon i own. It's quite on the heavy side but i think this aids with precision. About the handguard: HK also has handguards for the MR308 with picatinny top, bottom and side.
What a beautiful rifle. I'm slowly getting into guns.
If you are independently wealthy and/ or don't care about modding stuff or spending money on optics- buy this.
Any gun lover would love it. Whatever is the reason. @@zexnynex777
It doesn't seem to kick and bounce as much as one would expect from a 7.62x51. Also, Larry Vickers is the best weapons handler by far in my book, real pro.
Great video Larry. Nothing like a semi automatic .308, I love my HK91.
That MEN is good ammo. I bought a case for my HK91
Got the "Desert" version of this rifle, extremely accurate and well made.
I’m a gun guy and have basic knowledge with firearms. Larry is a damn encyclopedia, also a very good teacher as well.
Thanks!!
That’s the least amount of bolt bounce and barrel flex I’ve seen so far!
You're not kidding. That barrel stayed put every shot.
Was about to comment the same thing. I’m always surprised how much everything is flexing and moving with these high speed videos.
It is a HK
Well, that's why you pay more, on top of highest precision standards they simply never jam and are stupid accurate. You may pay more to beginn with but far less on the long run. For a much better product.
@Subversive Control What? A Harley? HK would need to work on black-powder to be a Harley of guns. Its a BMW or Honda of guns!
WFT? You bought HK? You didnt got one when you were heading war? So its more stupid than to buy AK rather than steal one from Russian army storage.
Grail gun. Hope to get one some day. It would be the cherry on top of my HK collection.
Just got my POF Revolution. Larry you need to check this out! 7.3 lbs!!!! Full 3 lbs lighter.
Lightweight .308? Not sure I would want that. How's the recoil and how does it shoot?
Free living it’s an ar-15 rifle with a beefed up bolt and enlarged mag well that takes sr-25 mags.
Matvey Kulgavyy yea this was supposed to be on the POF revolution comment haha
Does POF make AR10s as well?
Been looking at them for a while. How's the piston accuracy?
No to very little bolt bounce on that puppy! Would like to go deer hunting with one of these! I'm sure it has many other uses as well...thank you for all you do and have done LAV! ✌
Awesome !!!!!!!!!! Thanks for showing it Mr. Vickers
A wealth of knowledge Mr Vickers! Awesome video
The slow mo of that sweet shiny 308 brass ejecting makes reloaders go cray cray.......
I picture Larry's gun room like on commando when he steps in pushes a kepad and comes out with a 91 double mag....but Larry's would have to be more the size of that back room Arnold breaks into with the trackloader
For me this HK in 7.62 is the best battle rifle in the world.
Looking good and healthy Larry!
H&K MR308 A3 is on my list for next one to get. But with rails.
Its a shame US laws prevent most collectors from owning one of these, meanwhile anyone can buy a $400 domestically produced ar-15 no problem. (not that I'm saying we shouldn't have those too)
I think the AR-15's ever affordable cost and wide availability has contributed to their recurring use in mass shootings in the U.S.
@@rzr2ffe325 not a chance.
C-Bomb most gang related shootings are done with hi points and the such
Rzr2ffe yeah thats why its used, the ar 15 is just the most common rifle in the united states
Mate be happy you can get anything, here in Australia we (not me I was to young to vote) decided it to be a great idea to give our freedoms away and now it’s insanely difficult to get guns and not possible to get semi automatic rifles, now since we’ve lost that freedom we’re losing a lot more like freedom of speech ahaha, I guess that’s the way the cookie crumbles
Vick u one of the best shows o youtube
Looking good Larry.
Since these are unattainable in the USA, I bought a SCAR 17 and then a like new 16.5 inch barrel assembly. I E-formed the SCAR as an SBR then had the 16.5 inch barrel cut down to 12 inches and changed the gas port out to 1.60mm. I was trying to mimic the 12 inch HK assaulter while still keeping the ability to switch barrel lengths for longer range shooting. The gun is a beast and loves to eat M80 ball ammo. Also shoots 1 MOA at 100 yards, but I still need to find a place to shoot the SCAR Assaulter out past 200 yards. Eotech Exps and G3 magnifier are the optics I went with, and the thing weighs 8.5 pounds fully loaded. I have a Sandman K that has been in NFA jail for 9 months now, but it should be mine soon. I wish HK would sell these in America and make a civilian version of the MP7. They would make a ridiculous amount of money if they did.
Wow, finally, one of my favorite guns!
Pretty sure HK is the Apple of the firearms industry
This gun was commissioned for the U.S Delta, then HK started selling it military forces, including the Norwegian and French militaries. It's incredibly obnoxious and annoying how americans have such a smug attitude and think the world exists to serve them
But everybody wants to know if it has a chrome lined barrel?
And when does the A3 come out of Columbus?
If HK had the 20" barrel with it, and a package deal offered with the 3x20x50 PMII Schmidt and Bender with FFP reticles of your choice in mil/mil configuration, Geissele mount, CH, rail, and trigger, Atlas bipod, case, Otis kit, and 6 mags, well then you'd have something.
So by itself, this will be offered at $3995?
Nice to meet you Mr 308
Locks up like a bank vault...no flex at all. Damn.
Deutschland perfection..
Just bought a beautiful Springfield Armory M1A Scout. It too is in 7.62x51 mm NATO (.308 Win.) . Can reach out to 500+ yards easily and is reliable, rugged, extremely accurate, and powerful. It weighs 9.3 lbs and the weight helps absorb the recoil. You can put whatever you want on it, non-proprietary. American made, far more affordable than the HK. I slipped an Harris bipod and a Leupold 2.5x28 Scout scope that I had on my Marlin 85-70. Out-of-the-box, an M1A rifle can shoot accurately up to 200 yards with less than 1 MOA in the right hands. I zeroed mine to 100 yards, and for longer shots I just raise the crosshairs. The Germans can keep their over-priced bratwurst launcher.
4:30... what the heck happened there??? That was clearly two impacts
Good eye...I swore it was the proprietary propellants, proprietary muzzle device and proprietary black magic that did some awesome stuff there. Looked pretty cool too.
Teutonic space magic happened...
Looks like the shrapnel from that round scratched the paint off the left rivet
Sounds punchy. Love it
props to the sound/music editor and production. good ear. as for the gun.... ya know, california and all. or what?
Phenominal rifle, ive got the mr308a3 28 version and its a real accurat shooting rifle
The rifle does not bend or flex when firing as seen in slow motion. Aside from the proprietary HKey mounts, this is a very fine rifle.
Greetings from Germany - those HK's aren't what they used to be... but there is is an alternative for a german piston driven AR10 derivate: the Haenel CR308 - pretty much the same but it takes ar10 mags for example, uses a real key mod system on the hand guard and it's a little bit less expensive - If it's available in the US, PLEASE try this one! They are soo much better imho. Btw the new german army sniper rifle is a haenel now ;)
Allzeit Glück ab! from a german para
U are so wrong, this Haenel Stuff uses Stainless Steel Barrels, instead of carbon Steel... Even these barrels are also hammerforged like the HK ones, its still STAINLESS!!! And Stainless sucks in durability!!! Well made hammerforged carbon steel barrel with chrome lines (for max. corrosion and heat transfer) or nitride (less corrosion resistance, harder, kinda same equal lifetime if done well) is the way to go for a military/civilian semi/fully automatic... The Haenel is not combat proven and just because a BOLT ACTION Gun is introduced to the german SOF in .338 Lapua, doesen't mean they can make good Semi Automatics?! Or is Barret the best AR Manufacturer just because they have the M82?! No! The funny thing is, the german SOF doesn't even want the Haenel! They wanted the Accuracy AX338 but the Haenel won because of politics! So, the HK platform is the way better gun. I still have my MR308 A3, had a SIg 716 (Crap!!!!) and compared my MR308A3 (16,5" complete Rifle and 13" Upper) to my buddys Haenel CR308... MR308 A3 with chrome lined Barrel 13" and 16,5" shoots sub MOA on 100 Meters with Lapua Scenar and RUAG Swiss P+, Haenel just 1,5 MOA, the bullet speed measured on 5m Distance out of my 13" Upper equals the bullet speed out if the Haneles 16,5" Barrel! (HP Barrels are tapered, gaining more gas pressure....) The Barrel heats up way faster on the Haenel (Stainless...) in comparison with HK (Both have Similar barrel profile) and the recoil and weight are quiet equal... Just disadvantages on the Haenel, no reason buying it... The worst thing is barrel lifetime, if you are a shooter (not a collector or persons who is not shooting a lot like 99,9% of all german competetion shooters or hunters!), you have to go with the HK! Why do they use a properitory HKey instead of keymod? -> Not because they hat you! They do it, because KEYMOD SUCKS for MILITARY use! With Keymod its possible to lock the mounting device just half the way, so it can be loose itself while carrying! Thats why Keymod got obsolete and MLOK took place. So HK decided to improve Keymod for military use (HKey, compre it to keymod and u see why its better) and with their own system, they keep quality control in house! HK equals 100% Quality and nothing less, so yeah I can understand why they did. And the question why they just choose MLOK instead? ITS MAGPUL, ever heard of Patents??? And do you know how expensive liscensing can be? I mean HK sells 98% of their guns to MILITARY and LAW ENFORCEMENT! Not like all the fancy US Brands like BCM, DD who sell 98$ to CIVILIANS and just 2% to whatever!!!!!! SO HK focusses off course the military and NOT CIVILIANS! They are no socialists, they are capitalists, so just say THANK YOU HK, THAT U TRY TO DELIVER YOUR OUTSTANDING PRODCTS AS CLOSE AS U CAN GET TO US CIVILIAN CONSUMERS instead of bashing them, just because u as a german or all these US civilian guys dont understand their purpose... And one last thing, HK would love to sell their updated MR223 A3 (Civilian HK416 A5 version with chrome lined barrel, all ambi, but "old" style Gasblock and more heavy barrel profile) to the US. BUT US IMPORT LAWS forbid it!!!!!!! So its YOU, YOU THE USA are the reason why YOU DONT HAVE THE GREATER HK guns! Its NOT HK!!!! Greetings from a german gunguy spending his holidays in Florida USA at the moment ;)
@@philippanders6161 Danke für deine ausführliche Antwort. Woher hast du denn die Info, dass der Lauf rostfrei ist? Meines Wissens nach kann ein kaltgeschmiedeter Lauf nicht rostfrei sein? Habe das Haenel auch schon mit 1MOA geschossen, ist auch eine (ewig auftauchende und nie genug diskutierte;) Frage der Mun (Hornardy Match). Ein Bekannter von mir nutzt das Haenel CR223 als IPSC Waffe und schießt damit recht viel (>1000 Schuss Pro Monat) was, denke ich, eine recht hohe Beanspruchung ist und hat bisher keine Probleme (5 Jahre Garantie). MR308 oder CR308 sind ja eher DMR, also weniger Schussbelastung aber höherem Druck ausgesetzt. Das mit der V0 bei 16.5'' werde ich bei Gelegenheit mal austesten, kann ich aktuell keine Aussage zu machen.
Bin allgemein kein Freund von proprietärem Design also auch nicht von MLOK oder HKEY, aber das ist denke ich das kleinste Problem, dann tauscht man eben den Handschutz, dass es einem passt ;) Es geht dabei wohl auch viel darum den eigenen Kram an den Mann zu bringen, Stichwort Kapitalisten ;) Wenn man nämlich eine proprietäres Design hat und in großen Stückzahlen ans Militär verkauft, kann man direkt noch das eigene Zubehör dazupacken vgl. MG5.
Was das Militär in Deutschland nutzt und was es gern hätte und dass da viel Politik dabei ist, keine Frage. Man nehme nur das "nicht geradeaus schießende" G36 ... ja auch HK ... womit ich und meine Kameraden bisher keine Probleme hatten.
Also läuft es hier imho im zivilen auf "jedem Tierschen sein Pläsierchen" raus.
Was es in den USA gibt, was dorthin importiert werden darf etc. ist nochmal ein anderes Thema. Habe auch gerade rausgefunden, dass z.B. eine Walther P99 in Californien nicht erlaubt ist, weil Californien nur ganz bestimmte Kurzwaffen erlaubt ... Auf der einen Seite dürfen sie mehr, auf der anderen wieder weniger ?!?!
Zu guter Letzt: BITTE MICH NICHT MIT "YOU THE USA" ANQUATSCHEN, WENN ICH UNTEN MIT GERMAN PARA ZEICHNE ;)
In diesem Sinne viele Grüße nach Florida oder dahin wo du dich gerade rumtreibst...
What about the ironsights? Are those also propriety HK sights?
Everything proprietary ha
Those will cost extra
You know it! Thanks for your support and feedback- H&K
Top tier rifle. Wish I could have one
I'm in love that's a awesome peace of metal
Wow nice Vickers, well HK bring the rifle to US market?
HAHAH....HK hasnt updated a single one of their MR series in the US...wish they did...HK hates us here in the states...lol
I guess HK is a hot German woman. You love her but she wont love you back 🙁🙁🙁
HK won't do shit to their MR556 and MR762. It's easier to just build an AR from spare parts
You’d think the US market would be there main focus
Knowing HK it’ll cost $10,000
Sweet love the 308 (762×51)cal.
That thing looks sooooo good.
Mr. Vickers, you should explain OTB. I bought a MR 762 A1 when they first became available on the premise of the reliability your videos insinuated. Was heartbroken when I learned the distinguishing difference and meaning of OTB. If people trust their lives to a firearm, salesmanship should not quell the accuracy of its assessment.
Wow look at how little the recoil is thats amazing
Larry v for president, thats sounds great...
Very solid ✊ nice modular ar
going for those ball shots
308.
13 inch barrel.
Virtually no muzzle flip…
🥲 God it’s beautiful.
Thanks I needed this!
Looks like it's a real handful to keep on target.
Beautiful rifle
seeing the targets being hit is satisfying.
I love seeming HKs! Thanks for doing the video on this.
That's weird, why don't you have the A3 in the US?
Bought mine in November 2016 here in Germany at a local gunshop. 16,5" - RAL8000 and paid 2450€. If you order one at the moment the waiting time is aprox 18 month.
precision engineering!
This video told me get an MR762 and SBR it 🤤🇩🇪
sounds really good
Definitely dropped quite a bit of weight, Well done
Nice, if I didn't have a Colt LE901 with an Aimpoint Comp M4 I'd be jealous. ;-)
Great narrative content
Does Walmart sell this?
El tigre P fucking assholes!
That is a video that emulates Sam Peckinpah's cinematographic skills.
Nice video Its unobtainable...maybe thats why we like it so much....like that red head in college
First from Sydney of Australia💪
Nice reliable Weapon!
I wish you would add more personal opinion on the firearms you shoot. We've seen the slo-mo stuff numerous times, cool. But how does the recoil feel, how to the trigger feel etc.
Definitely my one of the best semi auto .308.
Even the slomo action shows that bolt carrier sliding back and forth so smoothly, not wavering at all like some guns. Me thinks that's too short of a barrel for all the powder to burn up though. Still super nice, but overpriced. AR-10 is still the way to go.
thank you thats was amazing
Gosh so beautiful this gun is
Dream rifle to own
Did I just here a “click” sound after Larry’s mag went dry around 3:43??? Unless that is a new HK thing, that’s editing gone too far, lol.
Another fine video Larry👍🏻
Maybe he was just pulling the trigger a bit hard?
I mean he COULD dub in an M1 Garand ring ;)
I bet that things going to MSR for around3+G’s
Awesome Sir..
This is a very common gun too find in norwegian gun ranges.
Beautiful weapon
Will we ever see the civilian gen 2 in the US?
I may be way offbase here, because I'm not fully up to date on HK, and a lot of other current, modern rifle tech. However, that gun, especially the upper, looks a lot to me like a hybrid of the Larue OBR and the Noveske Rifle Work's Project Leonidas.
Larry is looking fit and trim
13” 7.62 from HK....YES PLEASE.
Mmh hk is my favorite brand.
But with the fn57 for the pistol
Yeah!!! That's what I'm talking about!
That rifle is a straight beefcake
That Keymod though...
HK, always with the German engineered proprietary parts, like the rail nobody likely wants.
What was that third shot at 4:30??
Looked like it's been shot twice in the same time
Can you make an video showing the cetme ameli
I think the factory M4 FN collapsible stock is the best looking.
Number 1 Gun, best of the best,
DAMN! I want one.
3:42 Why is there a "klick"? xD Please stop with these computer-made sounds...
I would love to have this