My father was a professional guitarist and was offered her show at the Palladium (50s or 60s i don’t know). No one wanted to work with her because she had such a bad reputation and he really didn’t want to do it. But we were flat broke at the time. So he did it. And he said she was one of the most professional artists he’d ever worked with. I used to sit in the orchestra pit with my dad when i was a kid and - heard a lot of West End shows. But i was only 4 when Judy died and i’ve always regretted that she died before i was old enough to see her.
That movie is devastating. The scene with Judy and Dirk in the hospital is just phenomenal. Dirk Bogarde said that the two of them worked that scene and dialogue on their own. Brilliant.
I saw Judy at a free concert on Boston Commons. We got there before they set up the stage so we could hold a good seat up close on the lawn. She was dreadfully late and there was tension in the air but the moment she stepped on stage, she held over a hundred thousand people in the palm of her hand.
Thank you for capturing this, Frank. Mr Neame told this story beautifully, and with insight and compassion. What a wonderful man! Now we miss him, too!
@@melisagalvalizi6982 Sorry you didn't appreciate my heartfelt comments on this poignant interview with Ronald Neame. I was hoping your comment was in agreement.
With all the trouble she caused, the film, 'I Could Go On Singing,' turned out really good. Her last film. Judy was wonderful in it. (you'll never know it Judy, but you were so right, millions have missed you since you've been gone)
"You'll miss me when I'm gone"....................and indeed they all did and most importantly they all remembered those last words. You can sense the sadness in Ronald Neame's voice as he states this remembrance of Judy's last words to him and the entire crew at the close of shooting for her last film, "I Could Go On Singing".
Such a great story! Judith Crist was correct when she commented "Either you are or you aren't - a Judy Garland fan that is" ... so her fans will always cherish this movie and the wonderful soundtrack. Thanks for posting this.
Love this movie "I Could Go on Singing' Judy was a natural actor... very glamorous, motherly and over the top singer and actress! We owe a lot of respect and love to actors like Ms. Judy Garland, the directors, the crew who sacrifice their lives for a career that entertain and inspire us with their stories.
This entire video is like a great metaphor for Judy Garland: always wanting or needing just a little bit more than Judy was ready for, but she comes through as always. I’m glad that in this era, people would see her as suffering now being a “diva”. I think Hollywood is cruel, especially then, and treated her like an old record player - just bang her around until she plays one last song. Poor Judy. She was never allowed to enjoy herself. I think that’s why she said goodbye.
Truly moving account of Judy's last movie. Mister Neame seems like a wonderful human being who had the decency to be so gracious about the difficulties involved in completing the filming of "I Could Go On Singing".
"You'll miss me when I'm gone" the last words in the movie "JUDY"... Ms. Judy Garland is a rare gem... a star gifted to us from the Heavens to show us a taste of her angelic voice filled with emotions, pain and strength. JUDY GARLAND WILL LIVE FOREVER!
From what I have read and heard about her behavior on this film, Ronald Neame was a real gentleman here. Yes, I adore Judy's talent and her genius, but she was a tough egg to work with on a movie set with the necessary budgets and time shooting schedules. I am sure he had to put up with a lot of nonsense before he was able to shoot. I love the film, and think it has some fantastic moments.
just saw the movie Judy.....I miss so many years later.....Her life was rough....abuse from a young girl....she made difficult and bad choices with men....drug addiction....maybe alcohol addiction.....never found recovery....but I loved her music then and now.....god bless Judy Garland....thanks for this video.
Art imitating life as it so often does... particularly for big female stars. We’ve seen it time and time again. For some reason it’s inextricably tied to their art
Say what you will, she is well represented on the list of 100 best loved American songs, appearing 3 time, I think, at the top ten.... Liza Minnelli is also represented on that list of 100.
Judy was probably the greatest talent in the history of show business and a singing and acting genius, and the difference between genius and madness is paper thin. She held on for as long as she could and gave the world of entertainment the finest moments it has or will ever have.
@defundthewar I wouldn't say that it was because it was about her that made the movie not do well. I have a magazine from 1963 that has a review of the movie that said the movie wasn't very good, but that Judy is what makes the movie something to go and see which is why only really Judy Garland fans saw it :)
Joe Guzman aka Joey Josephs Nailed it. They didn’t recognize the ups and downs. Add the pills and alcohol and it’s a wonder she ever was able to do anything. It’s insane that no one did an intervention and got everyone on board to get her the true help she needed.
Fanny Brice and Gertrude Lawrence wanted Judy to star in their biopics before their deaths in 1950. She was never up for Barbra's roles. Had MGM made them in 1951 it might have worked.
She sounds like an absolute pain in the arse! I love Judy to bits but I'd want to throttle her for holding up production like she did! But in her defence she was such a talent she could get exactly what was needed in one take whereas other people would need dozens! so I suppose in the end it balances everything out! Fascinating to hear this. I lived in Canterbury for 3 years when I was a student in 2005 (graduated in the cathedral) and in the library archives they have a bunch of newspaper articles about her filming there - nice picture of Judy meeting the kids at Kings (the school next door to the cathedral) I seem to remember. Canterbury is gorgeous and I hope she got a chance to eat a huffkin and go on a gondola.
Judy never intended to die when she took overdoses. But he's right. She always assumed that someone would rescue her because Sid Luft and others always came through and did rescue her. But she bet wrong when she married Mickey Deans. He wasn't like Sid and didn't wait on her. And yes, they'd had an argument that night.
Mickey was heavily into party drugs - & an alcoholic. All wrong for Judy who was in a vulnerable state over her children's separation & declining health. Sid was a commanding man who knew how to handle the person & the problems as well as the business.
Dirk Bogarde's autobiography sadly but tartly records the fact that the crew began the film calling Garland 'sweetheart' and 'darling' and ended shooting referring to her as 'It'.
A lovely man who obviously loved Judy. But the Last bit was wrong. Judy didn't commit suicide. She was quite happy towards the end, and looking forward to what she felt was a new start for her. She was not long married, she had done a successful run at the Talk Of The Town, and concerts in Copenhagen and Sweden, there was talk of a chain of movie houses carrying her name. Her body was so frail that she just couldn't take any more. The verdict was an accidental overdose. It is quite easy to forget taking a sleeping pill when you wake in the middle of the night, then take another one. It was not suicide.
bog standard London / home counties. Not cockney, not posh just ordinary, for that time. It's evolved a bit since then, so only really people over 60 have this exact accent now - Cowell's accent is a bit more london than this but yeah - similar. I only hear the differences because I study accents and live in the area - they're subtle but they're there :)
Neame is obviously under the impression that she committed suicide, but she didn't. "Incautious overdose" was the Scotland Yard ruling. If you want to talk about some of her choices being a kind of passive suicide, well, that's another matter. Had drugs not been involved, she was also in very, very terrible health at the time of her death - some think that anorexia was a proper name for it.
+Randall Henderson Her health had been in decline after being hospitalized for liver failure. I believe that was 1958. The doctor gave her 5 years at the most. She lived 11 years after that incident.
Coroner's findings often err on the side of generosity for the sake of the relatives whenever there is even some slight room for doubt. Perhaps more so in the case of a celebrity. There are countless cases where everyone really knows it was suicide, but the coroner's report will say "accidental overdose" or similar, more out of kindness than anything. This is certainly the case with Garland, who had attempted suicide so often that there couldn't really be any doubt.
I totally agree. She seems to have never have quite gotten over her traumatic childhood and love hate familial relationship with Hollywood. She literally grew up on set pumped to the gills on uppers like speed which her mother, the studio bosses were supplying to her, to keep her awake, to keep her skinny, and then downers to make her sleep. Not making excuses for her, but sometimes even the most professional powerhouses like Judy, and we must remember you can’t be unprofessional and have Fred Astaire call you the greatest entertainer that ever lived....even these giants are too crippled with depression to move. Her nervous system was just out of whack. Part of what made her sensational on stage, made her a mess in real life. I think it was Frank Sinatra that said, that Judy could do everything in the world except take care of herself. They just didn’t have the know how back in the day to understand these mental health issues. It’s just very very very sad, that she never quite learnt to respect her own gifts, she never truly got to heal. Trauma and unprocessed grief is blinding. It leaves us too numb to realize what’s really going on around us, without the right and consistent help.
Ash I understand your point completely. But throwing your fellow performers under the bus to a make a point by being this late does not cut it with me. Respect and promptness are huge in my book tough childhoid or not.
Marty C ... are you kidding me? This is Judy Garland who started to work when she was at least five years old, for pity's sake! She had no childhood so no one should even describe it as being tough. She had no childhood at all. She is the greatest entertainer to walk the earth, and I bet everyone who worked with her considers themselves lucky to have waited for Judy Garland to hit her mark.....
@paulsimpson123 oh, really? i'd never guess ;P But as Brits have loads of accents I wanted to know from which part of England it is (as i guess it's English)
defundthewar, as a Streisand biographer, I can tell you without any question that Judy was never offered FunnyGirl. Aside from the fact that she was all wrong for the part and too old, she was already incapable of playing eight shows a week in a Broadway musical. She did sing one of the songs from the score in concert, but she was never among the stars considered for Funny Girl. She thought she could replace Lansbury in Mame, and there were a couple of meetings about it, but again she was too fragile by then to have even gotten insurance for the part.
Hugely talented, but a total mess. When she was "on", like he says, she could get a scene done with amazing ability, in one take sometimes. She could pick up dance routines in a flash. BUT...she was also vindictive and mean and terribly troubled too, alternating with affection and cooperation. You just couldn't know what was coming next.
Judy was a product of a business that never cared about her personally, just get her in front of the camera, or on the stage. No one with her kind or talent
June Allyson, Judy’s friend and colleague, explained what she saw as the root of Judy’s reticence. She said that Judy was afraid she wasn’t going to be perfect or up to the task of being perfect, so she would avoid it. Judy said in an interview that she was scared every single day the entire time she worked at MGM, that she would wake up afraid to go in. I firmly believe Judy was SA’d, dealing with much worse than LBM touching her chest and that’s what she resented her mother for the most - not protecting her from the abuse.
Judy Garland was such a hot mess by the 1960s she really shouldn't have been doing any films . She got fired from Valley of The Dolls because of her pill popping and mental state. Ironically the role she was cast in was in the novel , based on Judy - a pill addicted ,drunken actress
J. Garland was not all to blame. As a child star and young working life she was drugged to make movies . Uppers in the AM and downers in the pm. Do not judge 👩⚖️ till you know all the facts.
Judy didn't commit suicide, it was an accidental over dose. why did he say she did? i mean i know she had tried before but her death was ruled accidental, plus i don't think anything was going wrong in her life at that time other then being in dept.
Her drinking and pill popping had adverse health effects. She must have been warned about both; that she could do nothing about the drinking andthe pills--it was a slow suicide. Drinking alcohol interferes with metabolism, and processing nutrients and so what looks like it could be anorexia, was simply the drinking interfering with her processing nutrients. Very common condition in chronic alcoholics.
Al Jolson was much worse as a diva, (he walked out on a packed theater and went home to Long Island because there was a single empty set in the front row, but the audience wouldn't leave so they had to go to his home and get him; he would also break into the middle of another act if they were getting too much applause and ask the audience they wanted to watch that act or see him) but real show folk worship theatrical genius in a way no ordinary fan can understand. This is a subtext of everything Neame says about Judy's behavior.
@@brunoantony3218 - I think you miss the mark on "blackface". Al Jolson used it to not mock but to glorify the black race and their cultural contributions, paving the way for acceptance and visibility. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. A negative connotation is generally brought in fact by the viewer, not the performer.
Bottom line no one knows the exact truth of these old stars being they were owned by MGM they were worked to the bone made them billions then Shit onTemple, Davis ,Crawford all the women were trashed as soon as they were considered old and by old I'm talking 25 tops and it's a dam shame how they controlled all these greats they wanted fame and out of a poverish life back in them days it was more poverish than it was rich and MGM took them groomed them and drugged them like cattle ..these days you now see a 50 yr old Madonna and Jennifer Lopez at 50 and they are still knocking it out to Hollywood park!! All these old companies are now gone along with all the greats it was one hell of a ride and I'm just glad I was young enough to enjoy and I'll never forget all the glitz when it came to award nights we would run to watch those shows with excitement now days it sucks and it's gone from the people's awards to Hollywood's awards the celebs stay with their kind and it's the way now days!!
Great narrator of the story - but I often wonder how many that are called ‘greats’ have really no consideration for any but themselves- it’s a flawed film and maybe too close to real life
But Neame in his book says it otherwise...that she had a heart condition which the London doctors would not admit and they refused her heart drugs that could have saved her life. My feeling is that she died in London A&E neglected...etc....and that the body was brought back and dumped at her apartment...made to look like a suicide....
Heart medication is what she needed, and doctors gave her anything she wanted, including heroin in capsule form, and you are saying they refused her a pill that would have saved her life but she was able to get a hold of 200-400 methylphenidate tablets a day and at least 6 100 mg secobarbital capsules a day? She got anything she wanted, legally or illegally. Explain how your made up theory could make sense. I am a pharmacologist, so I would like to know which heart medication she was refused.
I am quoting Ronald Neame in his book and also refer to Lorna Luft`s comments in the film and her own book about inability to get prescriptive heart medication in Melbourne. How do you know they gave her what she wanted? According to Neame they refused to deal with her heart condition in London. Her agent has something to do with this. Nonetheless the London doctors let her drop dead.
Sandra Shevey Sandra, you don't know much about addiction, do you? An addict (untreated) is defiant and willful and does exactly what he/she wants. Judy was a pill junkie and an alcoholic. She drank and drugged herself to death. The pictures of her at the end of her life are pathetic. She was scarecrow thin; old looking beyond her years. She isn't unique. Just because she was fabulously talented as a singer and actress doesn't mean she wasn't an addict. Sure, the studio doctors at MGM gave her speed to pump her up and keep her going through long grueling hours of rehearsals, but that was standard practice. Judy, being an addict, took the drugs and ran with them, whereas others would have left them in their proper place. Judy was ultimately a victim of herself, no one else. Any addict who wants to recover must take full responsibility for his/her actions. This is an axiom in all recovery communities. Get real, Sandra. Get educated and stop spouting drivel. The end.
the studio does not get a golden ticket to poison their actors and actresses for the good of a picture. Yes Judy was an addict but because the studio knew that it makes their actions all the more disgusting and it makes them accountable for not seeking out methods of getting her the help she so desperately needed. Saying that giving the actors speed was standard practice is just rationalization in it's purest form. You don't enable a junkie and you certainly don't give them a taste if the taste will benefit you as it still hurts the addict all the same. The studios have experience with addicts and getting them to hit rock bottom a little sooner than later, especially when a multi-million dollar picture is at stake. They might not have been able to reach her at all but putting pills in one hand and slapping the other is nothing more than mixed messages and nonsense.
My father was a professional guitarist and was offered her show at the Palladium (50s or 60s i don’t know). No one wanted to work with her because she had such a bad reputation and he really didn’t want to do it. But we were flat broke at the time. So he did it. And he said she was one of the most professional artists he’d ever worked with. I used to sit in the orchestra pit with my dad when i was a kid and - heard a lot of West End shows. But i was only 4 when Judy died and i’ve always regretted that she died before i was old enough to see her.
She was simply wonderful and magical but so, so troubled.
@JaneKirk. That was a lovely story, thank you for sharing.
Even after all the trouble she caused him you can see his true love for the lady rest in peace both of you , and god bless you both.
the lady is JUDY GARLAND.
I have a letter from Ronnie !!!!
It's great to hear him speak about her. I like the film very much, and very much think her acting was superb, especially the hospital scene.
Mr. Neame was truly an old-school gentleman. And what a filmography he left as a legacy!
What a loving tribute to the greatest entertainer.
That movie is devastating. The scene with Judy and Dirk in the hospital is just phenomenal. Dirk Bogarde said that the two of them worked that scene and dialogue on their own. Brilliant.
I saw Judy at a free concert on Boston Commons. We got there before they set up the stage so we could hold a good seat up close on the lawn. She was dreadfully late and there was tension in the air but the moment she stepped on stage, she held over a hundred thousand people in the palm of her hand.
I've seen a clip of Mayor John Collins giving her an emotional introduction that evening....
Remarkable testimony. We're lucky to be told of this set of circumstances. Thank you.
Thank you for capturing this, Frank. Mr Neame told this story beautifully, and with insight and compassion. What a wonderful man! Now we miss him, too!
I love this story. Ronald was a great storyteller. And everytime I watch this I cry at the end. Judy was a revelation in the 🎥.
A REVELATION IN 1963????
@@melisagalvalizi6982 Sorry you didn't appreciate my heartfelt comments on this poignant interview with Ronald Neame. I was hoping your comment was in agreement.
With all the trouble she caused, the film, 'I Could Go On Singing,' turned out really good. Her last film. Judy was wonderful in it. (you'll never know it Judy, but you were so right, millions have missed you since you've been gone)
It wasn't actually her last film. That was Valley of the Dolls (1967)...she STARTED work on that one but they ended up having to fire her.
"You'll miss me when I'm gone"....................and indeed they all did and most importantly they all remembered those last words.
You can sense the sadness in Ronald Neame's voice as he states this remembrance of Judy's last words to him and the entire crew at the close of shooting for her last film, "I Could Go On Singing".
Judy Garland WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED AS ONE OF THE GREATEST STARS EVER!
Fantastic storyteller. Thank you for uploading!
Such a great story! Judith Crist was correct when she commented "Either you are or you aren't - a Judy Garland fan that is" ... so her fans will always cherish this movie and the wonderful soundtrack. Thanks for posting this.
great directors are great story tellers. thanks for posting
What a wonderful story. This man is so wonderful. Thank you for this ❤
Love this movie "I Could Go on Singing' Judy was a natural actor... very glamorous, motherly and over the top singer and actress! We owe a lot of respect and love to actors like Ms. Judy Garland, the directors, the crew who sacrifice their lives for a career that entertain and inspire us with their stories.
This entire video is like a great metaphor for Judy Garland: always wanting or needing just a little bit more than Judy was ready for, but she comes through as always.
I’m glad that in this era, people would see her as suffering now being a “diva”. I think Hollywood is cruel, especially then, and treated her like an old record player - just bang her around until she plays one last song. Poor Judy. She was never allowed to enjoy herself. I think that’s why she said goodbye.
gosh, that brought a tear to my eye.
Truly moving account of Judy's last movie. Mister Neame seems like a wonderful human being who had the decency to be so gracious about the difficulties involved in completing the filming of "I Could Go On Singing".
Compelling and beautiful tribute.
I love this clip- watched it over and over
It actually made my eyes quite misty! What a wonderful man speaking about a very wonderful and talented woman! Thank you for posting!
"You'll miss me when I'm gone" the last words in the movie "JUDY"... Ms. Judy Garland is a rare gem... a star gifted to us from the Heavens to show us a taste of her angelic voice filled with emotions, pain and strength. JUDY GARLAND WILL LIVE FOREVER!
What a lovely man.
What a beautiful discussion. So cool
And we still miss her~
From what I have read and heard about her behavior on this film, Ronald Neame was a real gentleman here. Yes, I adore Judy's talent and her genius, but she was a tough egg to work with on a movie set with the necessary budgets and time shooting schedules. I am sure he had to put up with a lot of nonsense before he was able to shoot. I love the film, and think it has some fantastic moments.
just saw the movie Judy.....I miss so many years later.....Her life was rough....abuse from a young girl....she made difficult and bad choices with men....drug addiction....maybe alcohol addiction.....never found recovery....but I loved her music then and now.....god bless Judy Garland....thanks for this video.
Who are You to judge??
That was a very powerful relaying of a Judy Garland memory.
He almost made me throw up while bawling. 😭 “this time she didnt leave the door open wide enough, and she died.” I think he almost lost it too. 😭
Omg I'm in tears.
“…But and you know even as I say it it almost makes me cry…”
Clearly he’s crying; what a sweet sweet man.
Very moving. What a gentleman.
Art imitating life as it so often does... particularly for big female stars. We’ve seen it time and time again. For some reason it’s inextricably tied to their art
Say what you will, she is well represented on the list of 100 best loved American songs, appearing 3 time, I think, at the top ten.... Liza Minnelli is also represented on that list of 100.
very touching
Judy was probably the greatest talent in the history of show business and a singing and acting genius, and the difference between genius and madness is paper thin. She held on for as long as she could and gave the world of entertainment the finest moments it has or will ever have.
Ronald Neame was a truth teller, a raconteur of the first order.
@defundthewar I wouldn't say that it was because it was about her that made the movie not do well. I have a magazine from 1963 that has a review of the movie that said the movie wasn't very good, but that Judy is what makes the movie something to go and see which is why only really Judy Garland fans saw it :)
Poor judy was bipolar but I what a great talent, no one can or will come close to her
Whitney Houston is close second.
Joe Guzman aka Joey Josephs
Nailed it. They didn’t recognize the ups and downs. Add the pills and alcohol and it’s a wonder she ever was able to do anything. It’s insane that no one did an intervention and got everyone on board to get her the true help she needed.
she was? do you have proof of that?
Where do you have diagnosed documentation that states that dr?
@@normadesmond6017 hes a professional RUclips dr! Come on. Are you kidding me questioning his profess diagnosis? 🤣😂
Fanny Brice and Gertrude Lawrence wanted Judy to star in their biopics before their deaths in 1950. She was never up for Barbra's roles. Had MGM made them in 1951 it might have worked.
len farmer Judy, of course, was in films with Fanny Brice, although they didn't act together in Ziegfeld Follies.
This a great story about Judy.
Love man
Nice director The adventure of poedison
I loved her so much
Poor Judy. She was wrecked from a very young age and was like a wounded bird. Her children loved her to death, though, and that says alot.
Very moving
Ink-a-dink-a -doo is a reference to Jimmy Durante isnt it? which third grader knows that
Yes, it is making reference to Durante!
@@dawnevans4518 When ?????
She sounds like an absolute pain in the arse! I love Judy to bits but I'd want to throttle her for holding up production like she did! But in her defence she was such a talent she could get exactly what was needed in one take whereas other people would need dozens! so I suppose in the end it balances everything out! Fascinating to hear this. I lived in Canterbury for 3 years when I was a student in 2005 (graduated in the cathedral) and in the library archives they have a bunch of newspaper articles about her filming there - nice picture of Judy meeting the kids at Kings (the school next door to the cathedral) I seem to remember. Canterbury is gorgeous and I hope she got a chance to eat a huffkin and go on a gondola.
how moving
She is known as `one take` Judy Garland...Ronnie...
That was Mary Astor ,not Judy Garland.
And Barbara Stanwyck
Why would they called her Judy Garland Ronnie? Thats odd.
@@thomasbarrientos6234 he’s hallucinating. Lol.
@@thomasbarrientos6234 Mary. Omg. She’s another glorious force.
Judy never intended to die when she took overdoses. But he's right. She always assumed that someone would rescue her because Sid Luft and others always came through and did rescue her. But she bet wrong when she married Mickey Deans. He wasn't like Sid and didn't wait on her. And yes, they'd had an argument that night.
Mickey was heavily into party drugs - & an alcoholic. All wrong for Judy who was
in a vulnerable state over her children's separation & declining health. Sid was a commanding
man who knew how to handle the person & the problems as well as the business.
TO CALL HER A MESS IS DISRESPECTFUL AND SIMPLISTIC. try and be more empathic, her childhood was VERY difficult and she had a mental ILLNESS.
@@jeh500 SID LUFT WAS A GAMBLER WHO STOLE FROM HER.
Wow
Lovely lovely guy
Genius with demon on her back....who will you deal with? The genius or the demon? She couldn't figure it out...lady of her time.
Roll and needed to be taken care of Judy that what was in his best interest
Dirk Bogarde's autobiography sadly but tartly records the fact that the crew began the film calling Garland 'sweetheart' and 'darling' and ended shooting referring to her as 'It'.
I remember reading that, as well!
Shame Bogarde was so honest about himself in his biographies.
@@glenconmc Meaning what exactly?
@John Lyttle Meaning, he didn't mind 'airing other people's dirty laundry in public' but never spoke about himself as being gay.
He's with her now
A lovely man who obviously loved Judy. But the Last bit was wrong. Judy didn't commit suicide. She was quite happy towards the end, and looking forward to what she felt was a new start for her. She was not long married, she had done a successful run at the Talk Of The Town, and concerts in Copenhagen and Sweden, there was talk of a chain of movie houses carrying her name. Her body was so frail that she just couldn't take any more. The verdict was an accidental overdose. It is quite easy to forget taking a sleeping pill when you wake in the middle of the night, then take another one. It was not suicide.
And I call myself a Christian but I am ethnically a Jew.
Sandy...no one cares.
he's got exactly the same accent as Simon Cowell. what accent is it?
bog standard London / home counties. Not cockney, not posh just ordinary, for that time. It's evolved a bit since then, so only really people over 60 have this exact accent now - Cowell's accent is a bit more london than this but yeah - similar. I only hear the differences because I study accents and live in the area - they're subtle but they're there :)
Who gives af? No. Its not the same anyhow. This man is more refined and elegant in his speech
@@tashspeak3877 you study accents? 🤣😂 Phonetics and Sociolinguistics.
Darling, why not use a standin...why the hell ask a big star to do YOUR reaction shots????
That movie should be great but the writing is weak. Not enough happens. It’s too bad because she was great in it.
The writing was weak but Judy's performance was not nor was Bogarde's.
Neame is obviously under the impression that she committed suicide, but she didn't. "Incautious overdose" was the Scotland Yard ruling. If you want to talk about some of her choices being a kind of passive suicide, well, that's another matter. Had drugs not been involved, she was also in very, very terrible health at the time of her death - some think that anorexia was a proper name for it.
+Randall Henderson Her health had been in decline after being hospitalized for liver failure. I believe that was 1958. The doctor gave her 5 years at the most. She lived 11 years after that incident.
She committed the slowest suicide in show biz, and she revelled in it. Idiotic woman that she was.
It was 1959. She lived 10 years afterwards.
Coroner's findings often err on the side of generosity for the sake of the relatives whenever there is even some slight room for doubt. Perhaps more so in the case of a celebrity. There are countless cases where everyone really knows it was suicide, but the coroner's report will say "accidental overdose" or similar, more out of kindness than anything. This is certainly the case with Garland, who had attempted suicide so often that there couldn't really be any doubt.
Judy like Marilyn are endlessly talented. But their lives were train wrecks. They continue to fascinate us with brilliance . flawed diamonds.
IT'S CALLED MENTALLY ILL NOT WRECKS!!! BE RESPECTFUL
He shows alot of class considering she
wanted him fired. Sorry showing up four hours late shows total disrespect to all involved.
Marty C I’ve been in that situation before. Its a tough place to be, but if you can be professional and work through it, things usually work out.
I totally agree. She seems to have never have quite gotten over her traumatic childhood and love hate familial relationship with Hollywood. She literally grew up on set pumped to the gills on uppers like speed which her mother, the studio bosses were supplying to her, to keep her awake, to keep her skinny, and then downers to make her sleep. Not making excuses for her, but sometimes even the most professional powerhouses like Judy, and we must remember you can’t be unprofessional and have Fred Astaire call you the greatest entertainer that ever lived....even these giants are too crippled with depression to move. Her nervous system was just out of whack. Part of what made her sensational on stage, made her a mess in real life. I think it was Frank Sinatra that said, that Judy could do everything in the world except take care of herself. They just didn’t have the know how back in the day to understand these mental health issues. It’s just very very very sad, that she never quite learnt to respect her own gifts, she never truly got to heal. Trauma and unprocessed grief is blinding. It leaves us too numb to realize what’s really going on around us, without the right and consistent help.
Ash I understand your point completely. But throwing your fellow performers under the bus to a make a point by being this late does not cut it with me. Respect and promptness are huge in my book tough childhoid or not.
Childhood.
Marty C ... are you kidding me? This is Judy Garland who started to work when she was at least five years old, for pity's sake! She had no childhood so no one should even describe it as being tough. She had no childhood at all. She is the greatest entertainer to walk the earth, and I bet everyone who worked with her considers themselves lucky to have waited for Judy Garland to hit her mark.....
@paulsimpson123 oh, really? i'd never guess ;P But as Brits have loads of accents I wanted to know from which part of England it is (as i guess it's English)
defundthewar, as a Streisand biographer, I can tell you without any question that Judy was never offered FunnyGirl.
Aside from the fact that she was all wrong for the part and too old, she was already incapable of playing eight shows a week in a Broadway musical. She did sing one of the songs from the score in concert, but she was never among the stars considered for Funny Girl. She thought she could replace Lansbury in Mame, and there were a couple of meetings about it, but again she was too fragile by then to have even gotten insurance for the part.
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Hugely talented, but a total mess. When she was "on", like he says, she could get a scene done with amazing ability, in one take sometimes. She could pick up dance routines in a flash. BUT...she was also vindictive and mean and terribly troubled too, alternating with affection and cooperation. You just couldn't know what was coming next.
So typical of a drunk or a druggie....
Judy was a product of a business that never cared about her personally, just get her in front of the camera, or on the stage. No one with her kind or talent
@@StevenTorrey Sir, she has bipolar illness. Unfortunately, back then, such illness is not well researched.
June Allyson, Judy’s friend and colleague, explained what she saw as the root of Judy’s reticence. She said that Judy was afraid she wasn’t going to be perfect or up to the task of being perfect, so she would avoid it. Judy said in an interview that she was scared every single day the entire time she worked at MGM, that she would wake up afraid to go in. I firmly believe Judy was SA’d, dealing with much worse than LBM touching her chest and that’s what she resented her mother for the most - not protecting her from the abuse.
@pandorabangles would a third grader know Faust and ink-a-dink-a doo
Very sad 😢
Do you have the first part of his comments on ICGOS?
Judy Garland was such a hot mess by the 1960s she really shouldn't have been doing any films .
She got fired from Valley of The Dolls because of her pill popping and mental state.
Ironically the role she was cast in was in the novel , based on Judy - a pill addicted ,drunken actress
And after Judy was fired from Valley of the Dolls, she kept the wardrobe they had designed for the movie. I think that's hysterical and good for her!!
J. Garland was not all to blame. As a child star and young working life she was drugged to make movies . Uppers in the AM and downers in the pm. Do not judge 👩⚖️ till you know all the facts.
EXACTLY, IT'S EASY TO SAY SHE WANTED TO DIE WITHOUT EVEN UNDERSTANDING HER CHILDHOOD.
Exactly....she was just a little girl. What would she have known of uppers and downers? Such a shame what was done to her!!
Judy didn't commit suicide, it was an accidental over dose. why did he say she did? i mean i know she had tried before but her death was ruled accidental, plus i don't think anything was going wrong in her life at that time other then being in dept.
Let's not quibble. Judy Garland spent decades killing herself.
I think he meant that because she always did try to commit suicide, she basically finally ended up succeeding . get it? lol
Her drinking and pill popping had adverse health effects. She must have been warned about both; that she could do nothing about the drinking andthe pills--it was a slow suicide. Drinking alcohol interferes with metabolism, and processing nutrients and so what looks like it could be anorexia, was simply the drinking interfering with her processing nutrients. Very common condition in chronic alcoholics.
He intimated suicide, which is grossly inaccurate. Wow.
Al Jolson was much worse as a diva, (he walked out on a packed theater and went home to Long Island because there was a single empty set in the front row, but the audience wouldn't leave so they had to go to his home and get him; he would also break into the middle of another act if they were getting too much applause and ask the audience they wanted to watch that act or see him) but real show folk worship theatrical genius in a way no ordinary fan can understand. This is a subtext of everything Neame says about Judy's behavior.
Al Jolson, another supremacist J£w, inventor of the type of black face that mocks African Americans.
@@brunoantony3218 - I think you miss the mark on "blackface". Al Jolson used it to not mock but to glorify the black race and their cultural contributions, paving the way for acceptance and visibility. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. A negative connotation is generally brought in fact by the viewer, not the performer.
@@MrCrowebobby - How correct you are .. JUST as Kate Smith who's also now villafied! Shameful
Al Jolson being Jew should have known better and not do it. Jews are notorious racists against blacks in general.
How come blacks don't believe that rational. Jews are racists against blacks. Look it up.
Bottom line no one knows the exact truth of these old stars being they were owned by MGM they were worked to the bone made them billions then Shit onTemple, Davis ,Crawford all the women were trashed as soon as they were considered old and by old I'm talking 25 tops and it's a dam shame how they controlled all these greats they wanted fame and out of a poverish life back in them days it was more poverish than it was rich and MGM took them groomed them and drugged them like cattle ..these days you now see a 50 yr old Madonna and Jennifer Lopez at 50 and they are still knocking it out to Hollywood park!! All these old companies are now gone along with all the greats it was one hell of a ride and I'm just glad I was young enough to enjoy and I'll never forget all the glitz when it came to award nights we would run to watch those shows with excitement now days it sucks and it's gone from the people's awards to Hollywood's awards the celebs stay with their kind and it's the way now days!!
Great narrator of the story - but I often wonder how many that are called ‘greats’ have really no consideration for any but themselves- it’s a flawed film and maybe too close to real life
But Neame in his book says it otherwise...that she had a heart condition which the London doctors would not admit and they refused her heart drugs that could have saved her life. My feeling is that she died in London A&E neglected...etc....and that the body was brought back and dumped at her apartment...made to look like a suicide....
Heart medication is what she needed, and doctors gave her anything she wanted, including heroin in capsule form, and you are saying they refused her a pill that would have saved her life but she was able to get a hold of 200-400 methylphenidate tablets a day and at least 6 100 mg secobarbital capsules a day? She got anything she wanted, legally or illegally. Explain how your made up theory could make sense. I am a pharmacologist, so I would like to know which heart medication she was refused.
I am quoting Ronald Neame in his book and also refer to Lorna Luft`s comments in the film and her own book about inability to get prescriptive heart medication in Melbourne. How do you know they gave her what she wanted? According to Neame they refused to deal with her heart condition in London. Her agent has something to do with this. Nonetheless the London doctors let her drop dead.
I quote Neame from his autobiography re: Garland. The only one with guts enough (including her own kids) to tell the truth.
Sandra Shevey
Sandra, you don't know much about addiction, do you? An addict (untreated) is defiant and willful and does exactly what he/she wants. Judy was a pill junkie and an alcoholic. She drank and drugged herself to death. The pictures of her at the end of her life are pathetic. She was scarecrow thin; old looking beyond her years. She isn't unique. Just because she was fabulously talented as a singer and actress doesn't mean she wasn't an addict. Sure, the studio doctors at MGM gave her speed to pump her up and keep her going through long grueling hours of rehearsals, but that was standard practice. Judy, being an addict, took the drugs and ran with them, whereas others would have left them in their proper place. Judy was ultimately a victim of herself, no one else. Any addict who wants to recover must take full responsibility for his/her actions. This is an axiom in all recovery communities. Get real, Sandra. Get educated and stop spouting drivel. The end.
the studio does not get a golden ticket to poison their actors and actresses for the good of a picture. Yes Judy was an addict but because the studio knew that it makes their actions all the more disgusting and it makes them accountable for not seeking out methods of getting her the help she so desperately needed. Saying that giving the actors speed was standard practice is just rationalization in it's purest form. You don't enable a junkie and you certainly don't give them a taste if the taste will benefit you as it still hurts the addict all the same. The studios have experience with addicts and getting them to hit rock bottom a little sooner than later, especially when a multi-million dollar picture is at stake. They might not have been able to reach her at all but putting pills in one hand and slapping the other is nothing more than mixed messages and nonsense.
Nah dude, as I live and breathe, that's the great Walter Effing Cronkite.
She was an alcoholic piece of shit. LOL