I’m running Joaquin with my darkhawk Ronin deck, mainly use it for Korg so it fills up their deck with junk and iceman so they’re more likely to keep a card in their hand. It has been working surprisingly well.
Ive only played a few games but I slotted JT Falcon into my mill deck. Being able to play him on 3 then Yondu and the Hood along with Cable on 4 wrecks my opponents late draws while giving me a lot of power to play out turn 5 or 6. Or you can play JT and a 1 drop on turn 4, followed by the decks other 1 drop and misery into Torres lane for a similar effect. I feel JT is a decent sub for players who skipped Ares.
I always insta like your videos, because I know whatever video I'm watching theres almost always timestamps and it's very quick and easy for me to get what I want without watching 20 minutes. Appreciate all your content Alexander and I hope you're doing great!
That's exactly my deck since Tuesday, but I run Ice Man instead of AV, by choice of course... You want to do two 1 drops on turn 2 or Black Swan so that you can start boucing them with Beast or Toxin before you start playing them in Joaquin's lane. On turn 5 you bounce everything with Falcon, activate Black Swan, and then play a millon points with 0 cost 1 drops, Sage and Hit Monkey
Also worth noting if you want to go for a more disruptive kind of deck or card generating deck where you're not using cards like Rocket or Silversable to gain more power you can use Misery after dropping Joaquin on a lane with 1 drops like Hood. Should double proc it before they get killed while not killing Joaquin himself and opening up the lane to play them. Pair it along with Maria hill or Agent 13 with Viktoria Hand late turn and drop some surprising power on the final turn.
I've absolutely loved Namora since her release and I've been needing a variant. Crazy winrates with her, and scarlet spider and galacta have improved her even more, with skaar being a very effective addition to those decks. Happily used 4 keys this week since I needed makkari still and got lucky and pulled wiccan on the random card so got 3 new cards and a variant I wanted!
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I think the pasted decklist I commented got deleted, probably looked like spam hahaha Zabu, psylocke, hulk buster, Jeff, deathlock, Wong, Scarlet spider, galacta, white tiger, namora, Odin, skaar Deathlock has been great for cleaning up junk, and hulkbuster makes zabu or psylocke into viable namora targets to get skaar out. Just getting scarlet spider out and then wong namora or namora odin on 4,5,6 can be hard for a lot of decks to compete with. Very vulnerable to tech like red guardian or shang chi though so doesn't do well in conquest
I actually play him in a Darkhawk/Ronin deck and it works surprisingly well with Korg, Iceman and Hood. The best thing is when you play a 1-drop turn 4 with the Collector and if Falcon is in the middle location it goes off 3 times! So much fun🤭
I am a returning player and dont have any of the cards in the spotlight this week, so imma be using my keys here because im not really interested in any of the other cards this month other than maybe diamondback, but I have the other cards that week unfortunately. March is looking really nice though
I think he might have utility in other decks. Someone in the comments mentioned Thanos, Mill seems to have good stats so far, and people are experimenting with Morbius Discard with gambit. This card will only get better with more on reveal cards as well.
I don’t have the cards yet but Alex I thought of this, what if you do a deck with dark hawk and put korg and iceman. It might be crazy, but it would make it hard to play cards is what I was thinking.
Tbf I find him extremely dependent with HM and Swan in bounce, as someone who plays bounce without those (pretty well in infinite since AV release) wasting a T3 on setting him up and probably not bouncing just to get him is VERY clunky and you don’t have the punch to win lanes specially in this meta of big cards He’s pretty good on disruption with Yondus/Korg/Iceman and Gorr, DH, Ronan Can put up the bigger numbers you’re missing
Sadly I am missing Toxin. So will probably skip on Torres too since both are so essential to bounce these days, and my old bounce decks just can't thrive in this current meta.
As of last night I did a count and found that I only had 9 series 3 cards left in the pool to get. I've been holding onto my 6000 ban comp collection tokens waiting for that perfect series 4/5 slot in the shop..... Today I found Lasher... He's a symbiote. I love me some symbiotes and I've been experimenting with mill and affliction... Because he's a series 4, I only spent 3000 and because it takes forever to build those up I said to Hell with it, let's get my series 3 collection closer to finish. Then I looked at the spotlight cache and saw Namora..... I just got Lasher. I have about a month and a half before my big spend in the cache which will give me Nico and Cassandra Nova... I can afford one try...Right? I pulled Falcon. I'm not sure how I feel about that to be honest. Lol But then I thought....1/6 demons by the dozen..... I recently got Venom. Notice I'm still thinking in terms of symbiotes here.
I have been playing this game for a long time and have one question? How to know whose turn it is, who goes first and who goes second? Love your videos, greetings from 🇭🇷
Joachin Torres already doesn't work. The best example is Yondu. Simple "on reveal" ability, and playing Torres there DOES NOT cause his ability to "activate twice." Playing the cards in the opposite order to that (Torres then Yondu) works correctly. The break is that because Torres is an "ongoing" card, his card text should function for cards played prior OR after he is played.. just like Luke Cage, whose "ongoing" ability negate damage done in all ripe game turns, as well as negating damage done in turns subsequent to Luke Cage being played. Torres should be able to be played at locations where "on reveal" cards are already played, and cause them to "activate twice" also, per the way Luke Cage does the same thing.
So I’ve been running him in Bounce and it’s pretty hit or miss but I have one time where I got a game with Onslaught’s Citadel and got Silver Sable to like 19 power (she was hit by my Agent Venom prior)
The best playline for Torres would be: 1. Have Black Swan on board by T4 2. Play 1-costs on curve 3. Playout all the bounce engine (Toxin / Beast /Falcon) from T3-5 3. Play Torres + Hit Monkey + 1 cost vomit on T6 Playing Torres on curve might not be as effective because he messed up bounce gameplan and he limits card placement
Anyone try JT Falcon in a mirr disruptive zoo shell? Ive been thinking he may be good along with iceman, silver sable, korg and even yondu to mess up your opponets game plan.
I hate that they wasted a perfectly good captain falcon variant on base falcon. falcon has so many years of art. they even gave him the baby and the hellfire gala variant of captain falcon.
I think snap needs to rework this card. let me explain if you have a location or cards that reduce the cost of your cards and you have a 3 or 4 cost cards that costs 1 and you play it then those cards should be included with this featured card.
I really like bounce, and Joaquin for that matter. My only problem with bounce in general is that it has nearly 0 tech or defensive options- would be cool to see them add a Nico type of card, that works more defensively tho
Hate this damn game, took 4 bloody keys to get him, giving me flipping Kang in the process. Now definitely not pulling shit else, so i can have a chance in the week Nico is in spotlight. Can i just for once pull what i want with one or two keys? Is that too much to ask? Hollllllyyyy shit man. Who tf plays Kang?
I'm in the same situation, I'm a certified bounce enjoyer and I'm yet to be convinced torres is any more than a flavour of the month for the archetype. It doesn't help that next season looks absolute fire.
swapped black swan and agent venom for grandmaster and marvel boy, got my rocket to 23 power one game. when it pops off, it definitely pops off. been trying to make your brew with selene but it definitely still feels like cope lol. and for me, trying to get JTF and moonstone together is too awkward and greedy, not worth it. wished they synergized better.
Nice to see Alex not activate Black Swan. Glad I’m not the only one.
I’m running Joaquin with my darkhawk Ronin deck, mainly use it for Korg so it fills up their deck with junk and iceman so they’re more likely to keep a card in their hand. It has been working surprisingly well.
Way to innovate, that sounds like a great use
Ive only played a few games but I slotted JT Falcon into my mill deck. Being able to play him on 3 then Yondu and the Hood along with Cable on 4 wrecks my opponents late draws while giving me a lot of power to play out turn 5 or 6. Or you can play JT and a 1 drop on turn 4, followed by the decks other 1 drop and misery into Torres lane for a similar effect. I feel JT is a decent sub for players who skipped Ares.
I always insta like your videos, because I know whatever video I'm watching theres almost always timestamps and it's very quick and easy for me to get what I want without watching 20 minutes. Appreciate all your content Alexander and I hope you're doing great!
best week of the month for me, with Torres and Makkari. Got both and a random King Eitri which I didnt have as well
17:41 no way that’s me I remember this game!! I was holding venom and almost went for that instead at the end lol. The sable was soul crushing
That's exactly my deck since Tuesday, but I run Ice Man instead of AV, by choice of course... You want to do two 1 drops on turn 2 or Black Swan so that you can start boucing them with Beast or Toxin before you start playing them in Joaquin's lane. On turn 5 you bounce everything with Falcon, activate Black Swan, and then play a millon points with 0 cost 1 drops, Sage and Hit Monkey
Also worth noting if you want to go for a more disruptive kind of deck or card generating deck where you're not using cards like Rocket or Silversable to gain more power you can use Misery after dropping Joaquin on a lane with 1 drops like Hood. Should double proc it before they get killed while not killing Joaquin himself and opening up the lane to play them. Pair it along with Maria hill or Agent 13 with Viktoria Hand late turn and drop some surprising power on the final turn.
21:02 He enjoyed Sam Wilson better that appears even here😂😅
Great review
LOL 10:39 - Schwarzenegger when he gets good news from the doctor XD
("It's not a tuma")
This is going to be a sleeper. You’ll be glad to have him when the exact sauce is found
The Namora, Scarlet Spider & Cpt. Marvel package is fantastic in High Voltage mode for anyone that is rolling for it.
“If you don’t have (insert literally any card), it’s okay you can sub in Ice Man” - Probably Alex “Ice Man” Copeccia 😎🎉
I've absolutely loved Namora since her release and I've been needing a variant. Crazy winrates with her, and scarlet spider and galacta have improved her even more, with skaar being a very effective addition to those decks. Happily used 4 keys this week since I needed makkari still and got lucky and pulled wiccan on the random card so got 3 new cards and a variant I wanted!
can you post a decklist for your namora deck familia?
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That's my newest decklist I've been tweaking, been enjoying deathlock to clean up junk and hulkbuster helps make zabu or psylocke viable namora targets to get skaar out. Just getting Scarlet spider, and then wong namora or namora odin out on 456 can get the win so often, but lots in the deck is very susceptible to tech like red guardian so it doesn't perform in conquest
Captain marvel is a fun one to squeeze into the list as well
Yea sounds fun I would love a decklist
I think the pasted decklist I commented got deleted, probably looked like spam hahaha
Zabu, psylocke, hulk buster, Jeff, deathlock, Wong, Scarlet spider, galacta, white tiger, namora, Odin, skaar
Deathlock has been great for cleaning up junk, and hulkbuster makes zabu or psylocke into viable namora targets to get skaar out. Just getting scarlet spider out and then wong namora or namora odin on 4,5,6 can be hard for a lot of decks to compete with. Very vulnerable to tech like red guardian or shang chi though so doesn't do well in conquest
That muir island game was an epic masterclass in awesomeness, you absolute legend😂
Hard working Alex! Thanks for your hard work and sharing your thoughts on the cards.
Thanks for the video, the opinions, and the deck.
1:56 Iceman is very cool. We saw what you did there Alex.
I actually play him in a Darkhawk/Ronin deck and it works surprisingly well with Korg, Iceman and Hood. The best thing is when you play a 1-drop turn 4 with the Collector and if Falcon is in the middle location it goes off 3 times! So much fun🤭
What Cards do you Play in your Deck?
Alex I got a notification from Snap calling him, and I am not joking here, Falcon 2.
The shield's clanking sound is very comedic to me
I am a returning player and dont have any of the cards in the spotlight this week, so imma be using my keys here because im not really interested in any of the other cards this month other than maybe diamondback, but I have the other cards that week unfortunately. March is looking really nice though
Seeing your collection lvl is insane as a 2 month old player lol
Thanks for another honest opinion of the new card keep up the awesome content ❤🎉
Frigga is great with this. And Victoria Hand
Final game not sure why you didn't hood > sage middle then bounce back with beast 😅 and yes it was flaviano you can click on custom to see dude 😅
Alex is 100% right about clogging your hand with Demons. My solution to this was play Yondu and delete your opponents drawing deck.
i love that iceman can slip in to some of these joaquin decks, i just wish it wasn't bounce. would love to play iceman more often to annoy people
yeah, would be great if black swan and hit monkey would be in the cache, cause then i could actually do bounce
I think he might have utility in other decks. Someone in the comments mentioned Thanos, Mill seems to have good stats so far, and people are experimenting with Morbius Discard with gambit. This card will only get better with more on reveal cards as well.
Why everyone only running him I'm bounce. I've been looking for any thanos with him
cuz hes shit with thanatos
Board space is the issue. Better run Misery.
Yeah with Thanos is way more clunky
You probably want to be playing your stones before turn four
Using him with Thanos isn't a smart idea
Hey, when are we getting the global bounty rewards? Knull/X-23 variant??
I had to get that John Romita Jr Makkari variant. It’s so dope.
I don’t have the cards yet but Alex I thought of this, what if you do a deck with dark hawk and put korg and iceman. It might be crazy, but it would make it hard to play cards is what I was thinking.
I kept seeing people underestimate this card, I always thought it was going to be very good, I'm happy to see that's the case.
Bought him and cleared 95-100 with ease thanks
Tbf I find him extremely dependent with HM and Swan in bounce, as someone who plays bounce without those (pretty well in infinite since AV release) wasting a T3 on setting him up and probably not bouncing just to get him is VERY clunky and you don’t have the punch to win lanes specially in this meta of big cards
He’s pretty good on disruption with Yondus/Korg/Iceman and Gorr, DH, Ronan Can put up the bigger numbers you’re missing
Great vid
Your cooking Alex,like a legend
Sadly I am missing Toxin. So will probably skip on Torres too since both are so essential to bounce these days, and my old bounce decks just can't thrive in this current meta.
As of last night I did a count and found that I only had 9 series 3 cards left in the pool to get. I've been holding onto my 6000 ban comp collection tokens waiting for that perfect series 4/5 slot in the shop..... Today I found Lasher... He's a symbiote. I love me some symbiotes and I've been experimenting with mill and affliction... Because he's a series 4, I only spent 3000 and because it takes forever to build those up I said to Hell with it, let's get my series 3 collection closer to finish. Then I looked at the spotlight cache and saw Namora..... I just got Lasher. I have about a month and a half before my big spend in the cache which will give me Nico and Cassandra Nova... I can afford one try...Right? I pulled Falcon. I'm not sure how I feel about that to be honest. Lol But then I thought....1/6 demons by the dozen..... I recently got Venom. Notice I'm still thinking in terms of symbiotes here.
Threw it a Darkhawk deck it cooked pretty good too
I have been playing this game for a long time and have one question? How to know whose turn it is, who goes first and who goes second?
Love your videos, greetings from 🇭🇷
The one thats its winning plays first...you can see the name plate shining below your avatar if youre the 1st to play
Can I just mention that 2000 tokens for a duplicate feels like a fantastic change!
Joachin Torres already doesn't work. The best example is Yondu. Simple "on reveal" ability, and playing Torres there DOES NOT cause his ability to "activate twice." Playing the cards in the opposite order to that (Torres then Yondu) works correctly.
The break is that because Torres is an "ongoing" card, his card text should function for cards played prior OR after he is played.. just like Luke Cage, whose
"ongoing" ability negate damage done in all ripe game turns, as well as negating damage done in turns subsequent to Luke Cage being played.
Torres should be able to be played at locations where "on reveal" cards are already played, and cause them to "activate twice" also, per the way Luke Cage does the same thing.
So I’ve been running him in Bounce and it’s pretty hit or miss but I have one time where I got a game with Onslaught’s Citadel and got Silver Sable to like 19 power (she was hit by my Agent Venom prior)
The best playline for Torres would be:
1. Have Black Swan on board by T4
2. Play 1-costs on curve
3. Playout all the bounce engine (Toxin / Beast /Falcon) from T3-5
3. Play Torres + Hit Monkey + 1 cost vomit on T6
Playing Torres on curve might not be as effective because he messed up bounce gameplan and he limits card placement
good stuff as always
ty
So the points ceiling of normal bounce can finally compete with move bounce now
Been using a Nico 2x, symbiote, Frigga, Zola deck for a while now from Jeff's channel. No one's expecting the gigantic 1 drop
Its cool with misery as well, in mill
What if I’m missing 6 cards 🤔
What about MASTER MOLD?
Works good in Thanos
What can replace Hitmonkey :(??? I can’t get him to show up for anything
Anyone try JT Falcon in a mirr disruptive zoo shell? Ive been thinking he may be good along with iceman, silver sable, korg and even yondu to mess up your opponets game plan.
I hate that they wasted a perfectly good captain falcon variant on base falcon. falcon has so many years of art.
they even gave him the baby and the hellfire gala variant of captain falcon.
I got Joaquin and am only missing Toxin. Guess I'll have to get him with tokens?
yeah toxin is bounce staple if u like bounce
If you like bounce Toxin is must-have and imo very fun. Well worth 6k
Been wondering what should be a replacement for Toxin here, like The Collector maybe ?
If you do this, I recommend Kitty pride tbh. Could also go all in and play Angela in this shell
Maybe Grand Master.
If I don’t have toxin should I just not play this, it’s the only card I’m missing
I pulled him because iI was hoping to get Makkari or Falcon, but got him on the first pull so...
I wonder if Hawkeye is better than Rocket here, since a smart opponent will try to dodge Joaquin into Rocket.
19:25 I love how black swan proc would have literally made zero differnce at all (sable was the only 1 cost, and she cost 0 bc of Beast).
STILL THO :C
@@AlexanderCoccia Thats fair, but styling with a t6 black swan proc and a win also has its merrits
I went from being sus on him to wishing I bought the spotlight variant
Random non-Torres video finding its way in lol.
I think snap needs to rework this card. let me explain if you have a location or cards that reduce the cost of your cards and you have a 3 or 4 cost cards that costs 1 and you play it then those cards should be included with this featured card.
Nina says Falcon 2 is bad. But she also says she doesn't play bounce and you have to play Falcon 2 on T3, so I don't trust her.
Torch from invaders was an android. WW2 era heroes
24:22 Uhmm actualy OG Human Torch is back in Earth-6160 🤓👆
Dang it I hope I can use the card without using bounce it took up 4 keys
bounce is fun!
Only four 1 cost cards?
I wanted makkari but got Torres which makes me sad
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Joaquin Torres might have been better as a 2/2 😅
hi Alex it s everyone
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I really like bounce, and Joaquin for that matter. My only problem with bounce in general is that it has nearly 0 tech or defensive options- would be cool to see them add a Nico type of card, that works more defensively tho
all this bounce gameplay is giving me a headache 😂
same
Hate this damn game, took 4 bloody keys to get him, giving me flipping Kang in the process. Now definitely not pulling shit else, so i can have a chance in the week Nico is in spotlight. Can i just for once pull what i want with one or two keys? Is that too much to ask? Hollllllyyyy shit man. Who tf plays Kang?
Its pronounced Jai. O Quinn
Thank you sir you are a gentelmen and a scholar
Am I stupid? I'm a bounce lover and I am not excited about this card 🤣🤣
hes a pretty expensive turn 3 card for bounce where typically you're wanting to bounce on that same turn.
I'm in the same situation, I'm a certified bounce enjoyer and I'm yet to be convinced torres is any more than a flavour of the month for the archetype. It doesn't help that next season looks absolute fire.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4you save him for final turn with hit monkey and play out your bounced 1s with black swan for 0
Never been a bounce fan so this is a skip for me.
I got him first key
It's always difficult to watch someone who knows nothing about playing bounce, play bounce. Ugh.
its not that we can always come up with a complain...its more like second dinner always makes intentional bad decisions.
Seems like cozy don't give af anymore. No more new card overviews/gameplay
Honestly he's a easy skip and feels like a worse wong.
Joaquin torres must be are 2/2 for get optimal play
Because of the compensation it meant I had 4 keys . I have namora risked a key got JTF so I'm happy. I'm out til next week
swapped black swan and agent venom for grandmaster and marvel boy, got my rocket to 23 power one game. when it pops off, it definitely pops off.
been trying to make your brew with selene but it definitely still feels like cope lol. and for me, trying to get JTF and moonstone together is too awkward and greedy, not worth it. wished they synergized better.