Jw vs Norway pending appeal: Governing Body exposed!
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- The governing body is withholding crucial information from their members in these appeals.
Let's examine the contradictions, lies and the faithless moves of The Governing Body. Critical testimonies are scheduled for February 7 and 10, 2025.
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Great breakdown Sven...cannot thank you enough for your help. This court appeal is disgusting: "the states have not referred to a single instance where a child was....harmed..."!!!! This made me sad and angry at the same time!! Born in and tried to make it work for 3 decades. I still struggle with shame, fear and guilt but am determined to live a full life!
I hope the courts see thru this garbage and expose the lies, rot and corruption!!
just embrace your past, it no longer serve you, let go of the limiting beliefs and start living your life
they are shameless, denying their own propaganda videos for JWs. They are truly spineless!!! Thank you very much for your update!
They have gone from bad to worse and will continue the spiral sadly many go with them, lies always catch up its all about protecting their money.
2 THESSALONIANS 3, 11 12 THEY ARE LET BELIEVE A DELUSION AND LIE HOW TRUE . SOMEONE SUGGESTED WE SHOULD ALL.BE WRITING LETTERS TO THE COURT . I AM A SENIOR WHO LEFT 2020 AT 80 YRS OLD BORN IN LOST ALL FRIENDS AND FAMILY IT IS VERY MUCH ALIVE. THANKS FOR SHARING THIS INFO .
Sorry should be chapter 2
thank you also !
That’s very brave of you. I’m sorry you had to live your whole life under their thumb. I’m glad you made it out ❤️🩹
great Video Sven, greetings from Norway !
Well done. I didn't watch everything, but you seem to have gotten a good overview of the case. Thanks for being accurate. Appreciate it.
Much appreciated!🙏
Thanks for sharing that. It is infuriating. Statements such as there's no evidence that "removal" harms the relationship a minor has with his family demonstrates WT"s utter lack of understanding of child development, family dynamics and psychology. They're not qualified to make any statements about "harm". Like you said, parents and siblings will certainly make sure the removed child feels the difference in their relationships. That's the whole point. The child may continue to talk with family inside the household but what about all the family, grandparents, aunts , uncles, and cousins outside the home who may have been a big part of his life? He will feel like a pariah, dirty, despised and rejected, with no place in the world. What does that do to a young developing mind? What permanent damage can that do? WT says there's no evidence of harm but have they looked for it? Have they asked us, the ones who've experienced it? Of course not. We are persona non grata. Shunned. Apostates. Filthy liars in their opinion. Grrrr.
God bless you from Louisiana! You are point on! Thank you for all that you do or exposing this cruel lying cult.
bless you too
Norway has strict laws in place to protect minors that Watchtower cannot ignore so if they are only interested in money it is a lost cause.
Wow. Just wow. Having been shunned and unbaptised the majority of my life this has truly blown me away.
Thank you so much for this video
It's amazing that the GB suddenly had a 'broader understanding' of shunning, just before the trial starts. Amazing timing, almost like it's deliberate.......even if the broader understanding is just a change of wording, they haven't changed anything.
Hi,
Thank you for this information. Your words ring true about how they behave towards dfd members, family or not.
I find it so satisfying that Norway used wts own publications and videos for their decision.
Wt teaches cruelty and they harm so many.
For money and the fear that other countries will follow suit they will hide, and reword their beliefs, yep, sniveling cowards.
Amazing how they preach about “being in subjection to the higher authority” only when it favors them ! 😖
At the Australian royal commission summon, goofy Jackson, pulled a (slight of hand) move on that lawyer who was very intelligent and even was informed of their tactics. When asked- if there the only true spokesman for God, the goof said, it would be presumptuous to say that. That in itself is what most ex JWs catch, and yes that is indeed damming of it self to say, after all the decades of telling and drilling that in our heads. But he also pulled a - look over here stunt, when he said following that lie, - you certainly can have someone else, for example, say a sister giving advice or counsel to another sister, who God can be using. The man is intelligent ( arguably naive perhaps) to know what that lawyer was really asking, and purposely redirected his answer to a completely different question that wasn’t asked by the lawyer. Of course, anyone, even goofy Jackson would know the lawyer was asking about (them, the GB) being the only ones used by God on earth. Not within the congregation,as he twisted it. Just right in you face deceit. I’m sure he was easing his conscience by thinking of the outrageous- Theocratic war crap mental gymnastics escape clause they design and employ just for these type situations, it basically says, - only if someone’s entitled to the truth, should you tell them the truth. And, of course, who do you think decides that little crafty deceitful maneuver? Yep! You guessed it! 😏
You nailed it with this video!
The "slight of hand" language is, "undedicated preacher". Time 8:53. So, that's a person who is not a JW. In that case they don't shun someone who was never a JW...that is the deception because they are rephrasing the true charge. They are like Satan, who said, "you must not eat from any tree in the garden?" They are instruments of the enemy of God. The true charge is that they DO shun members who don't stay in step. THEY SHUN, period. Hopefully their, "look over here", tactics won't fool the authorities and that they will be exposed for the liars they are.
i don't get it. if a government gives you money you have to obey those rules, if you don;t do that or want to, just leave it. Why twisting your policies and lie about it
Awesome video ❤
great Video Sven. Hit so close to home you cant imagine.
As Gerrit Loesch has already said: Jehovah trusts the GB, Jesus trusts the GB. Now is the chance not to squander this trust. You just have to lay all your cards on the table, dear GB. Be open like Jesus or Paul. There are no dogs or pigs (Mat 7:6: "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the swine, lest haply they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you."), but high power.
P.S. I avoided my son when he was removed. I was Ultra PIMI at the time. Fortunately, it didn't last long. But I feel ashamed when I see him. I was the traitor and not him. Unfortunately he's back to JW and I'm out. Not officially yet. Because it may be that he will avoid me, as I have done.
you did at that time what you thought was best for you and your son. forgive yourself for that. and keep faith in him
The ironic thing in Norway is that the Mormons LDS does NOT take the money from the State. I dont think they ever have from looking through my Goverment`s pages.
It irritates me because they lie shamelessly to win this case. The prosecution should bring videos of the daughter shunning the mother and show publications to throw it in their faces.
That would be fun
The goverment defence have some very fine evidence and withnesess ready against Watchtower.
Watchtower should consede now and change their ways.
That entire video was shown for the court on day 2 of first round, and will probably be shown again this round
"They lie shamelessly."
@@vestland3877they don't concede, lol!
It’s the parents job to raise their own children.
Everyone else should mind their own business, especially the government.
It's clearly written in the elders textbook that someone mixing with a disfellowshipped person can themselves be disfellowshipoed for doing so
exactly and now in the courtcase it's private life? what private life?
Thank you for your summary of the upcoming trial! Is there a way we can send to the Norwegian Court a petition, of signatures from ExJW’s who are currently being shunned by their JW family and friends? ExJW Reddit is up to 104,000 subscribers, maybe half of them are pimo, the other half have left. Just an idea for the court to understand and hear from the other side, the truth about JW’s shunning and how devastating it truly is!
i don't think the government needs us. they are prepared i think and have some ex jw witnessing on the stand also
hey, thank you for the important video and the call to the Jehovah's Witnesses, but please research, examine and use your intelligence. You see again and again that parents care more about their own salvation than their community with their children who no longer want to take part in all of this. I say, be ashamed of yourself, dear parents, and please think about what you are doing with this. You follow man-made laws, teachings. Finally wake up! Thank you for your many educational videos and kind regards from Germany and all the best to you and your family 😉
Stay strong!
I avoided my son when he was removed. I was Ultra PIMI at the time. Fortunately, it didn't last long. But I feel ashamed when I see him. I was the traitor and not him. Unfortunately he's back to JW and I'm out. Not officially yet. Because it may be that he will avoid me, as I have done.
why dont God sort it out to save time
And money
Minor children aren’t shunned within the family.
Period.
As far as outside the family, people have the right to associate with, or not associate with, whomever they choose.
Your statement is grossly misleading. Members can only associate with those outside the organization ONLY if they are willing to be disfellowshiped themselves.
@@williamhenderson8371
Absolutely false.
Jehovah’s Witnesses have acquaintances and associate with people form all walks of life…at work, school, their neighbors, etc.
they aren't shunned in the way that they live at home and mom or dad says hello and come eat etc, but they are not part of family study and outside normal conversations there is no interaction in that household. it's not the same as the time they were JW. outside the family people DONT have the right to associate with whomever they want. If they keep company with someone who is disfellowshipped the Elder books states that that person can also be disfellowshipped if they keep on going with the behaviour of accompanying someone who is disfellowshipped. you are not a JW or you LIE or don't know the rules. Pick one....
yes people who weren't JW.. worldly people . if someone was a JW and disfellowshipped JW's are not allowed to associate with ones who left " the truth" . but nice try
shepherd of the flock (elder manual) :
Unnecessary Association With Disfellowshipped
or Disassociated Individuals: Willful, continued,
unnecessary association with disfellowshipped or
disassociated nonrelatives despite repeated counsel
would warrant judicial action.-Matt. 18:17b; 1 Cor. 5:11,
13; 2 John 10, 11; lvs pp. 39-40.
Is the Barnevernet still kidnapping children in Norway?